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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from from for the

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Speaker 1: first time the Volume Network. I am Schad Milman of

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Speaker 1: the Action Network and guess what, Thank God, the n

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Speaker 1: c A Tournament is just days away. We're going to

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Speaker 1: get into that. We are certainly going to get into

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Speaker 1: that because a year ago this time we were wallowing

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Speaker 1: interfere and our disappointment, and we were adrift in uncertainty.

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Speaker 1: And I am not sentimental at all. I do think

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Speaker 1: what's happened this past year when it comes to sports

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Speaker 1: being played, is somewhat miraculous. The fact it was largely

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Speaker 1: driven by greed. Who cares the fact that college athletes

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Speaker 1: matter because we got a tournament people, And our guest

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Speaker 1: today is the Action Networks very own one named wonder

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Speaker 1: Stucky Man, who loves college foops so much he named

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Speaker 1: himself after an obscure college basketball player. He will break

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Speaker 1: down the attorney with me and Toda, my official official

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Speaker 1: co host of the pod, are new full time Action

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Speaker 1: Network colleague, Mr Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon mona money Chad,

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Speaker 1: I'm paid I got health insurance. These all these things

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Speaker 1: have happened to me. I'm so excited. I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: I'm more nervous about hiring you full time than just

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Speaker 1: about anybody, and that includes like hiring a guy named

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Speaker 1: Stucky and a guy named Darren Ravel. But we do

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Speaker 1: have even bigger news. I mentioned the very first sentence,

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Speaker 1: the Volume Network. That's right. This morning, It's Tuesday. This

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Speaker 1: morning it was announced that we have partnered with my

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Speaker 1: good friend Colin Calherd and the Volume team on a

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Speaker 1: brand new partnership. The Favorites your Favorite Podcast Listeners UH

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Speaker 1: is joining the Volume platform, the new podcast platform that

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Speaker 1: Colin started last month. Obviously, we're super excited. I've known

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Speaker 1: Colin for years. I was lucky enough that when we

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Speaker 1: on Sundays, he asked me to come on and he

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Speaker 1: was the first one doing gambling segments on television. We've

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Speaker 1: been good friends for a long time. I'm thrilled personally

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Speaker 1: that we're partnering with him. I'm thrilled that Action is

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Speaker 1: partnering with him and Volume because it's a great match.

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Speaker 1: Because the guy has been so far ahead of the

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Speaker 1: game and talking about betting. He lived in Vegas. He

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Speaker 1: knows the industry, he knows the space, he knows what

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Speaker 1: audiences want. The fact that we get to do it

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Speaker 1: together as two companies is awesome. This podcast The Favorites

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Speaker 1: will expand to two times a week. We will do

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Speaker 1: it Tuesdays, We will do it Thursday's. Action Network analysts

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Speaker 1: like Stuckey and Simon will appear on Volume podcast as well.

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Speaker 1: You'll be able to follow Colin and everyone on the

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Speaker 1: Volume team. Uh, many of them are putting their picks

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Speaker 1: in the Action Network app. I mean that's legit, man. Yeah, Simon,

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Speaker 1: you did a chat. All you needed was to bring

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Speaker 1: on someone a little better looking than Scooch and look

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Speaker 1: what happened. We've blown up. Yeah. I want to give

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Speaker 1: the Scooch. Thank you Scooch for leaving and letting us

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Speaker 1: take off. Right all right, Now that the housekeeping is

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Speaker 1: out of the way, let's get to some madness. March

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Speaker 1: madness has finally returned, and there's only one way to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: Let's get gambling. Gambling. Gambling, stucky, how are you holding

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Speaker 1: up now that we're you know, forty eight hours in

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Speaker 1: like having it started day later? Is it just more

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Speaker 1: and call? From our apt perspective, like getting content out there,

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Speaker 1: It's it's helpful doing videos and podcasts, and the extra

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Speaker 1: funny that you bring up Stucky. I was just thinking

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Speaker 1: on a gambling form in two thousand four. Now, besides,

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Speaker 1: like my family and my wife, every single person I

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Speaker 1: go by on the Like it's I just randomly picked

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Speaker 1: I like it from a preparation standpoint. But I'm menching

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Speaker 1: some point. That's good, good, big pimping right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: peaking at the right time. Defensive numbers are ugly, but

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Speaker 1: can potentially scare one and can one get upset in

429
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Speaker 1: the second round. And I look at a team like

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Speaker 1: st Bonaventure, who has an excellent, excellent big and you

431
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: know soon in the middle. They are great interior defense.

432
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: He can bay basically defend Dickinson and State bonov was

433
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: a great defensive team experienced, um well coached. They could

434
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: because of how they can cover Dickenson. Because Dickinson is

435
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: a nightmare matchup for most teams, and because of that,

436
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: you either have to double him and then he opens

437
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: up all their great shooters. Michigan runs great offense as well,

438
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, Livers is hurt, but they could just guard

439
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: him straight up, which is which is huge. But I

440
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: don't know if St. Bonaventure can beat l s U.

441
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: That's the problem in NFLS. You beat St. Bonaventure, Hunter

442
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: Dickinson might score forty points on putbacks, Elsie one of

443
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: the outside the top three defensive rebounding. They have no one,

444
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: no one who can cover Dickinson. I mean, Michigan could

445
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: shoot from three and he's just gonna he's he's just

446
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: gonna offensive rebound put back on put I mean he

447
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: would go crazy. So that game is it's a mind

448
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: funk for me. But if you want to have Michigan

449
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: going down, I can see them LS you can score

450
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: on anyone too, so they could potentially outscore Michigan. I

451
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: have Michigan going down personally the Sweet six team to

452
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: Florida State. Um, who I think is? I actually have

453
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: them going to the final four? Stuck, no joke. So far,

454
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Speaker 1: you have named three of the final four teams that

455
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: I had publicly stated, what are the final four teams

456
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: for me before the seatings? One of these teams now

457
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: can't make it and we'll get to that region. But

458
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: I have Florida State going to the final four as well, Gonzaga, Illinois,

459
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Speaker 1: Florida State. I have all three of them. UM, talk

460
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Speaker 1: to me about Florida State. Explain yourself. Well, you're I

461
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: gotta change my final four now, but you have the

462
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: same final four? Is me? Well, I don't know I

463
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: got it. But by the way, by the way, sometimes

464
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Speaker 1: I'm really good at this. It might actually be in

465
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: your favor. Chad Millman is proud of himself. Yeah, we'll see.

466
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: I hope. Otherwise I will make sure I'm the pressures

467
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: on you. It's a I'll say, but Florida State. Look,

468
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: it's always on me. The sure is always on me,

469
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: and yet I carry it like a warm blanket that

470
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: brings everybody together. Okay, I don't know how to transition

471
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: from that, but Florida State, I guess there are there

472
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: are warm blankets to me. They give me comfort because

473
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: they are just so long and athletic and deep. And

474
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: this is the team that just poses so many matchup

475
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: problems because I mean, they just have pros and length

476
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: all over the place and it's very difficult to cover them.

477
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: And they're really good defensively, is it? And we've seen it.

478
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: Florida State has made runs to the Sweet sixteen, Elite eight.

479
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: And by the way, if they get to the final

480
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Speaker 1: four and they face when when we get out our

481
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: final four picks before the bracket, I had give Zagon

482
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: Florida State too, um kid Zagon Florida State. The last

483
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: two tournaments have faced each other um and Florida State

484
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: won the first one and get Zago won the second one.

485
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 1: So if they if they meet in the final four,

486
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: to be the third straight tournament that they have faced

487
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: each other. But just a really deep, long, talented team,

488
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: they'll press. Um. They have so many options to score.

489
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: They can really shoot the three too, but they can

490
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: also offensive rebound. There long inside protect the rim really well,

491
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: like there's just not They also shoot free throws really

492
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: well this year. There's not a lot of weaknesses with

493
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: this team and UNC Greensboro. They press to the unique

494
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: style which can give some teams trouble, and Florida State

495
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: has turned the ball over some this year. Fartia State

496
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: also presses. These are two of the top five press

497
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 1: defenses in the country. Florida States actually be pretty good

498
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: against the press this year. I I they're just such

499
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: an athleticism advantage here. I also think they would get

500
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: by the winner of Georgetown Colorado, uh and then the

501
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: vulnerable Michigan. And when you get to Michigan, if Michigan

502
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: gets there, they have the size inside seven footers that

503
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Speaker 1: that can guard Dickinson, and they can match up on

504
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: the perimeter, and they can create mismatches with their athleticism.

505
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: So it's just a really talented team. Sometimes they have

506
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: these like stinkers, which which does concern me a bit.

507
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: Um They did want to have notreeday and they lost

508
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: by about thirty with a chance to win the a

509
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: C c um But I trust all the talent athleticism

510
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 1: and they've they've Leonard Hamilton has in recent years has

511
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: been pretty trustworthy in the tournament. Uh, Simon, I want

512
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: to see if you can guess the team Stucky wants

513
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: to talk about that is the live wire, uh under

514
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, thirteen seed in this bracket. Mm hmm, I can't,

515
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't think of it all toide of

516
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: my head. Stucky, do you want to say it? Do

517
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: you want me to say it? You can say Abilene Christian? Why?

518
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Why is Abilene Christians Stucky? The team that you think

519
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: can advance against a Texas team that just one its conference,

520
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: that has the ever hot coach in shock a smart um.

521
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: Give me some explanations here? Well, actually don't. Well I

522
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: think they can, but I don't. I haven't picked them.

523
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: I love this team coming in. It's one of the

524
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: most aggressive that's if they're very long, very long for

525
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: a mid major. One of the most aggressive defenses in

526
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: the entire country. They'll press you a bit. They trap everything.

527
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: They're just into the passing lanes. They are number one

528
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: in the nation and turnover rate defensively and just an

529
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: outstanding defense. And they have a seven foot or so

530
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: I think seven ft one Colt and coal in the middle,

531
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: which not a lot of these mid major teams have.

532
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: They run everything through him. On offense, it's one of

533
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: the heaviest post offenses in the country, and they have

534
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: shooters all around him. So it's just a very dangerous

535
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: team with a unique scheme. And Texas does have turnover issues.

536
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: They turn the ball over a lot. The thing that

537
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: worries me and this Apple and Christie a talented, very

538
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: well coached they have. They are unique, but they play

539
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: almost the same defense as Texas Tech this no middle,

540
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: don't let you get into the paint, put move everything in.

541
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: Texas face them three times. Additionally, Texas has a couple

542
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: of seven footers themselves, so unlike these other teams that

543
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: Ablene Christians used to playing and could have matched up

544
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: with where Colton Cold was seven ft or they run

545
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: all their offense through. Usually have to crash down on them,

546
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: usually have to help on him. He takes I think

547
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: thirty of their shots, but then he can kick it

548
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: out and they have all the great shooters all around it.

549
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: But Texas doesn't have to do that. Plus Abilene Christian,

550
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: because of how aggressive they play, they fail a ton

551
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: and besides some of the Texas bigs, all the Texas

552
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: guards are automatic at the line, so that's what scares

553
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: me here. I like Davelene Christian coming in to the tournament.

554
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't like the matchup, but I wouldn't be shocked

555
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: if they win. And if I don't really love any

556
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: lower thirteen through sixties eats here. If I had to

557
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: pick one, and I'm not in my bracket, but that's

558
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: probably the one I would go with. Texas has some

559
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: laps is mentally on defense. Sometimes Brown they're really talent.

560
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: He's really talented, but he checks out and he turns

561
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: it over too much. So yeah, I I could see it,

562
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: but just it's not the best matchup for me. And

563
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: I think Texas is undervalued in the market. They've lost

564
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: a ton of close games, and a lot of those

565
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: close games two really good teams came after they were

566
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: dealing with COVID, so I think a lot of their

567
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: numbers are are depressed because of that. Um They're peaking

568
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: at the right time and they have the length and

569
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: side they can shoot. UM, So I think Texas finds

570
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: a way. But out of all the thirteen through fifteen

571
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: seeds in this region, um Abilen Christian would be the

572
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: one I would target. All right, Simon, uh, just putting

573
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: your bracket Florida State for the final four. I want

574
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: you You're gonna get Iowa and you're gonna Florida. So

575
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: I thought of states first Texas, but if you want

576
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: to go that, the autumn is is really interesting because Alabama, no, no, no, Simon,

577
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: this is your final four so far, Iowa. You're gonna

578
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: get Iowa playing Florida State in the final four, with

579
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: one of those teams going to the finals, because you're

580
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: gonna get the East Region playing the West Region, and

581
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: how we're gonna go to the Midwest. I had to

582
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: say before and I won big on Bama for the conference.

583
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm all in on Alabama got them in my final four.

584
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: Them in Iowa are on my uh on my side

585
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: for the Babo could get there, Bam, I could get there.

586
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: It's a tough path, I mean, but they can certainly

587
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: get there. I mean, Yukon is not gonna be easy

588
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: in the second round with book Night and then Texas

589
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: team and they're doing that. That was playing second overall.

590
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: Just a defensive efficiency. That's the difference this year. But

591
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: they are still very three point reliant. So if they

592
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 1: have an off shooting night against one of these better teams.

593
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: It could be Lights, but then and then they'd have

594
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: to be Florida State. They can get there, though, then

595
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: if you want to take a shot with you kinda,

596
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: I don't hate that at all, Simon. You and I

597
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: are gonna have our own little Brackett and I am

598
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna be on Florida State and Gonzaga and you can

599
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: be on Iowa and Bama and see how that works

600
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: out for us. Thanks. I'm writing it down just so

601
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: you know. I'm taking notes because I gotta do fucking everything.

602
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to the Midwest, because actually you

603
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: mentioned stock like Illinois. We both have Illinois coming out

604
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: of this bracket. Look, they've played thirteen quad one opponents.

605
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: They've actually had thirteen quad one wins, most in the country.

606
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: What upsets me about this bracket is that I love Houston,

607
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: I love Loyola, I loved Georgia Tech. Before you gave

608
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: that news that someone that could potentially be important might

609
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: not play. I feel like the selection committee always does this.

610
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: They put the teams that gamblers love into the same

611
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: bracket and they screw us. And they did it with

612
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: Houston because Houston was the other team I at Florida State, Illinois,

613
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: Houston and Gonzaga in the final four before the seatings

614
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: were announced. Yeah, I don't like to draw either. I mean,

615
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: Illinois was my team before this season all summer. I

616
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: pimped them out. They have because you know, you have

617
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: two pros that are coming back, and then they have

618
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: these freshmen and the transfer that I loved, and I thought,

619
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: look in this ridiculous Big Ten, they're only gonna get

620
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: better and better as they approach Martin. They did. But

621
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: if you want to be a contraying you probably don't

622
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: want Illinois if you want to like going to the final.

623
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: But this is a team that I've said is gonna

624
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: win it all year. So I'd be a clown if

625
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: I if I didn't have them winning it now. So

626
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm just sticking with my guns. But you, Houston, you

627
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: want to go with a good contraying pick of a

628
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: team that is really rock solid. You can have Houston

629
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: going to the final four year and I wouldn't hate it.

630
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: But I think Illinois is the second best team in

631
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: the country. Said that they're gonna win it all from

632
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: the start of here, So I have them beating Gonzaga,

633
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: as boring as that sounds, but because of that, my

634
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: bracket is basically gonna come down to Illinois winning it right,

635
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna have because a lot of people

636
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: are gonna have Illinois Gonzaga in the finals, I'm taking

637
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: some other shots in the Midwest because if I'm right

638
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: with a couple other upsets, then I'm gonna make up

639
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: some ground. If I'm wrong, it's not really gonna kill

640
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: me as long as Illinois comes out of the region.

641
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: So that's the way that I'm thinking about the Midwest.

642
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: Is there anybody in the bottom half of that bracket

643
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: that you think is competitive? Yeah, I mean I don't

644
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: think anyone is beating Houston until the Elite eight. But

645
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: if you want to give Syracuse a run to the

646
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen, maybe the Elite eight, we've seen it before.

647
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: They could easily lose. I mean, the underdog in the

648
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: first round, the Syracuse in the zone. It's tough to

649
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: prepare for um. It's a unique scheme once they get

650
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: out of conference. Teams aren't used to seeing it. And look,

651
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: they could score this year. Buddy Bahan has been on fire.

652
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: That's a team that's dangerous, and then you know they

653
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: get into the second round against West Virginia. They West

654
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Virginia is a vulnerable three seed, but I also took

655
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: a shot up top. We're with Illinois and I have

656
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: Liberty going to the sweet sixteen to play Illinois. Almost

657
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: everyone is gonna have Oklahoma State and Kate cunning Him

658
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: there and I could easily happen. UM. But if it

659
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: doesn't and it's on the Illinois wins that game and

660
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: won't kill my bracket. UM, and Oklahoma State I think

661
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: is vulnerable in the first round. Kate Cunningham will probably

662
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: make enough plays down the stretch to win and pull

663
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: it out, as he's done so many times this year.

664
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: But Liberty is the worst possible matchup for Oklahoma State

665
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: as a thirteen four. And then in the next round

666
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: against Tennessee, another miserable matchup. Liberty packs it in defensively,

667
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: they make you beat them from the outside. Oklahoma State,

668
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: what they want to do is they want to get

669
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: to the rim. They want to get out in transition.

670
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: They don't want to shoot three. It's not a great

671
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: three point shooting team. Liberty makes you be a three

672
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: point shooting team. Liberty takes away all of your transition opportunities.

673
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: They don't cross the offensive glass. They get back. They're

674
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: one of the slowest teams in the nation, and they

675
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: can shoot. I think they have seven guys that are

676
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: overt from three four over forty. So they play slow,

677
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: they grind the game out. They can take away everything.

678
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: Oklahoma stables too because they pack it in. Also, they're

679
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: they're all have a lot of size, but they're go

680
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: to the defensive class and Oklahoma State likes to live

681
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: on the offensive glass. It's a top their top twenty

682
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: and getting to the room in the nation, Liberty top

683
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: twenty and preventing teams from getting to the rim. Oklahoma

684
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: State really good in transition. Liberty is does not let

685
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: you get out in transition, and Liberty is gonna make

686
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: you shoot. Oklahoma State doesn't want to shoot so and

687
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna slow the game down, so unlike Colgate, who

688
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: can really shoot. We still don't know a lot about them.

689
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: They play fast, they're I think they're twenty five and

690
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: adjusted tempo, whereas Liberty I think is like or something

691
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: somewhere way down there, so fewer possessions, more variants. If

692
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: Liberty is hitting their shots. Um, it's a bad match

693
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: of program State. And then in the next round they

694
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: play a Tennessee offense that in the half court is

695
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: just lost. They need to get out in transition, they

696
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: need to unleash their athletes, and they can't really shoot.

697
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: So Liberty is a team that if they're making their shots,

698
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: and they have they're one of the best three point

699
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: shooting teams in the country. UM. And because of their

700
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: style and how they match up with Oklahoma State. UM.

701
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: Because of how they match up with Oklahoma State, you

702
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: have three and adjust a tempo because of how they

703
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: play three point variants, slow the game down, your possessions,

704
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: they make their threes. It's it's a it's a scary

705
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: team to play. So I have them as one of

706
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: the teams going to the Sweet sixteam as a lower

707
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: seat by two going to the Sweet sixteen, or Liberty

708
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: in Ohio upset alert. I was just about to remind

709
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: people of the bracketbusters because there's a lot of information process,

710
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: so I want to condense and sort of organize for people.

711
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: So far, coming out of the West, we like Gonzaga

712
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: for the Final four, but we do like Ohio as

713
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: a bracket buster. To get to the sweet sixteen, and

714
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: just so people when they're thinking about it, if you

715
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: want to win your brackets, you gotta choose upsets. In

716
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: the first two rounds. You've got to figure out which

717
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: teams are going to get there, and then after the

718
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen it ends up being pretty chalky. Like the

719
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: teams that are better tend to win. When you get

720
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: to the final four, you're usually loaded with ones and

721
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: two seats. So the bracketbuster out of the West, I

722
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: would say, is Ohio. Out of the East, Stucky and

723
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: I both like Florida State. Simon, Um, you know he's silly.

724
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: He likes Alabama, But I am calling the bracketbuster out

725
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: of the East Abilene Christian. Then out of the Midwest,

726
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: the bracketbuster will be Liberty, and we both like Illinois.

727
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: But Simon, do you have a final four team from

728
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: the Midwest? Do you like Illinois? Do you like Houston

729
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: at the two seed? What is your thinking? And thanks

730
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: to Stucky man. He I don't know if it was

731
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: your first show of the college season, so I know

732
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: you're doing something NFL. It might have been December, but

733
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: it feels like it was November. That was one of

734
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: your teams you talked about and you're hyping them up.

735
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: Illinois and I didn't really know much about him. I

736
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: knew they had a couple of guys who were returning,

737
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: so they like, they seemed like a good team. So

738
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: I bet it and I living went to the Philadelphia

739
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: week later. I saw it in better odds in Philadelphia,

740
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: so I bet it again and they came through. Man,

741
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: they really dominated UH this year, and coming to this position.

742
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: I always like to look for that one seed that

743
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: everyone's really talking about, then the next team that people

744
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: are talking about, and you have to pick either one

745
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: of them. You can't pick both because really it's gonna

746
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: work out for you, like Stuck was saying, So I

747
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: don't like Gonzaga, I still love Illinois. So for for

748
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: my only one seed I'm taking the finals is Illinois.

749
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: I got them playing in the very very end. Wow,

750
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: I did not see that coming, all right, So you

751
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: and I are both going to have Illinois got it.

752
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: The two bracket busters that I have just want to clarify,

753
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: was going again in Ohio and Liberty. I'm both going

754
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: to the sweet sixteen, both playing the teams that I

755
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: have winning at all and if those teams don't go

756
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: to the final and probably not win my bracket. So

757
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: if those upsets don't happen, it's not gonna kill me,

758
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: right because I still at the end, I'm going to

759
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: have my teams that I need to win it go through.

760
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: So that's where I took a shot where I I'm

761
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: gonna have just a couple upsets and then I have

762
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: to hope that my Illinois Gonzaga gets through. All right,

763
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: let's talk about the South, because we mentioned the East

764
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: being a region where we don't think the number one

765
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: has a particular lock on a path to the final four.

766
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: The other one is the South and Baylor, and I

767
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: don't think you disagree with me here. Baylor to me

768
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: is a pretty vulnerable number one. Not because they're playing

769
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: the University of Hertford, which no joke. If I cut

770
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: down every tree and every house on the five blocks

771
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: from here in front of me, I would see the

772
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: University of Hertford campus here in West Hartford, Connecticut. Uh,

773
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: why do you think Baylor is vulnerable here? They just

774
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: haven't been the same since coming back from a COVID break,

775
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: and they were really hit hard. They had a number

776
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: of players that came down with the virus. They were

777
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: on an extended break. This is a team that was rolling.

778
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: In my power ratings. I had them depending on the day,

779
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: like it was Okay Zaga's number one, and then the

780
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: next day Baylor would roll and I would have number one,

781
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: like they were the two clear best teams, and then

782
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: it was Illinois I had next, which is a step

783
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: alowt in Michigan. Michigan injuries drop them a little. For

784
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: Illinois just continue to surge up to that number two spot.

785
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: And Baylor they've just they dropped a couple of games.

786
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: Their defense it's just not been the same. They look

787
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: a step slow. Maybe they can get back to that level,

788
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: but it's just it's tough. They haven't they haven't yet.

789
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they can find it in this tournament, but from

790
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: what I've seen in the Big twelve tournament with their defense, um,

791
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: they're just not at that same level as they were

792
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: earlier in the season. So I definitely think they're a

793
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: vulnerable one. If they put it all together, they can

794
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: win it all for sure. Um, But I'm I think

795
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: this is a good chance to go against a one

796
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: just like Michigan and pick someone else coming out of

797
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: this region to go to the Final four. I I

798
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: will probably have two or three brackets in a different contest.

799
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I think in all three of them all end up

800
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: with different final four teams in the South. Who do

801
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: you like the most coming out of this Because there's

802
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: a lot of maybes and there are some team there

803
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: is one team in particular in this region that I

804
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: think has Illinois tendencies and has not gotten the credit

805
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: it deserves that is similar to what Illinois has gotten

806
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: in the last say, eight weeks of the season. Yeah.

807
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I will say perdue as I got

808
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: enough credit. But it's Arkansas for me. Yes, it's Arkansas.

809
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: Whoo pig SUI you have Arkansas four too? Yes? Oh

810
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: my goshore, oh man, I'm fucked. Here's the problem here,

811
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: he honestly stuck. I might have Arkansas. I might we

812
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: might have the same final four by us mosis. It

813
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: might just be from listening to you doing the college

814
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: basketball podcasts on the Action Network, because obviously I would

815
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: have the same tendencies as you because I'm listening to

816
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: what you're saying, like Simon, I'm riding you to the bank.

817
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: That makes me feel better. Yeah, Okay, yeah, I have

818
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: Arkansas come out. They've been looking some of their overall

819
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: numbers deflated because they have been fully healthy all year

820
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: and once Justin s Fifth came back and they've been

821
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: They've been amazing, uh huge winning streak up until I've

822
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: lost this past weekend in the SEC tournament. Don't fall

823
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: them for that loss at all. This is a team

824
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: that doesn't really have many falls at all. Super athletic,

825
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: really good offense, many different options, not too reliant on

826
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: any one player or part of their game. They can

827
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: match up with a lot of teams defensively. Colgate is

828
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: a scary first round opponent because they could shoot. But

829
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: again it's like and I also don't know how good

830
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: cold it is. They only play three teams, but the

831
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: athletic mismatch in that game is drastic um, which I

832
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: think Arkansas and and then and Covie just played so

833
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: fast and both. I mean this totals at a hundred

834
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: and sixty and a half or round sixty one. So

835
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: with that many possessions, it's hard to for a team

836
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: that's significantly less talented to overcome that talent gap with

837
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: with you know, rooting for variance. But Code can shoot

838
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: they'll be scary, but I think Arkansas gets through that

839
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: game and then you know, they could get to Ohio

840
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: State and that could be a shootout. But I like

841
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: Arkansas there too. So yeah, I like Arkansas coming out

842
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: of it. They've been really consistent since being healthy. They

843
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: don't have many weaknesses. I think it's a team trending

844
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Um and not many people are

845
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: really talking about the Hogs. And it kills me to

846
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: say it because that means column is happy. Whoo pig

847
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: SUI right, you're talking about your friend, my friend, your

848
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: co host on the Action Network podcast, Colin Wilson, who

849
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: is from Arkansas, went to Arkansas. Isn't about Arkansas Booster

850
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: the head of the Eric Musselman fan club. He's been

851
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: talking about him all season? Is there a so I

852
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: agree with you? Is there a bracket buster that comes

853
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: out of this or is it? Well? Is there a bracketbuster? Um?

854
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, if you want to get crazy,

855
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: it's Colgate. But I don't see it. Um, but they

856
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: they have the shooting if they're hot. I just think

857
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: that because they play so fast, it's I can't see

858
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: it there. Winthrop's an interesting team. Because Villanova without Gillespie

859
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: has not been the same. They can easily win that

860
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: game as a twelve verse five. They'll have trouble with

861
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: produce interior though, So I don't know. I think their

862
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: ceiling is capped there the So I don't think this

863
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: is a really good region to go with a a bracketbuster.

864
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: I haven't. I have I used this region is all right.

865
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: Let me have Purdue Arkansas come out of it and

866
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Baylor go down. I don't have any upsets. If you

867
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: want to get wild that some people do. Some people

868
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: want to pick a fifteen and it happens, then you

869
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: want to pick Oral Roberts. Um, this team does not

870
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: defend uh hoot, it's probably gonna score an eighty five

871
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: eighty they could score and they could maybe score ninety.

872
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: But Oral Roberts is one of the best offenses in

873
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: the country. Um. They have two players that they have

874
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: the leading score in the nation by the way, and

875
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: mac As he's tremendous him and then Obandard in the middle.

876
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: He's averaging nineteen and nine. But Aspis can go for forty.

877
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: He they've played at Oklahoma State or this year they

878
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: lost that nine. They lost by five at Wichita State.

879
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: They lost like eight seven eighty. They're in the games

880
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: of late at Arkansas is a team that will just

881
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: score and um Aces could put up forty realistically, they

882
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: will not defend. But Ohio State is a terrible defense

883
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: on the perimeter, terrible and pick and roll, very vulnerable

884
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: defensively on the perimeter. Or Roberts can take advantage. Ass

885
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: want to probably go for forty. They will have to.

886
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: This would have This could be a thriller, like if

887
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: Oora Roberts is hitting their shots. Um it's a very

888
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: three point reliant team, which you really like when you're

889
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: picking an upset and they they're three point frequencies. I

890
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: think it's top twenty five in the nation. They shoot

891
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: the three at thirty nine, So shoot a ton of threes,

892
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: make a ton of threes and they can score. Ohiostate's

893
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: vulnerable and what they're good at when they defend the

894
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: problem Ishiestates offense is awesome and or Obviens does not

895
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: defend any anybody. They won't defend at all. Um So

896
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: they're like they played Denver, one of the worst teams

897
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: in the nation art of this year and they won two.

898
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: Like against Denver, who I think is like the fourth

899
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: worst team in the country. So um they're Higo State's

900
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: gonna score at will. But if you think that a

901
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: Robberts just goes bonkers and they have the nation's leading score.

902
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: They have two legit pro level players, they have the

903
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: offense set could do it if Ohio States a little

904
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: all and if Kyle Young, who's important to them, didn't play,

905
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: Uh he got hurt last weekend. If he's not available,

906
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: that only helps um so Bora. Roberts is an intriguing

907
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: high variance team. The problem is they play really fast

908
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna give any stops. But if you

909
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: want to get crazy, that's like the fifteen seed that

910
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: I think has the offense to actually do it. By

911
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 1: the way, that game Simon, that Ohio State or Roberts game,

912
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: that's where I want you to put all your money

913
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: on the over. So I wanted to have stuck about

914
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: this conference. I had a tough time pick. And I

915
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: know you just said what's going to Villanova? But doesn't

916
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: j Right just have such a huge advantage Oliver all

917
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: these other coaches that even when he's lacking the talent,

918
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: when it's in march madness like this. It's such a

919
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: huge advantage having a guy like him that he's won

920
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: two national championships. He seems like he never gets flustered

921
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: by the moment. We have a bunch of teams where

922
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: you're saying they're all kind of the same and you

923
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: both relatedd on Arkansas, but doesn't seem like there's one glaring,

924
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: overpowered team in this conference. And I'm I thinking too

925
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: much taking Villanova to be in my final four. Yeah,

926
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I just haven't. They lost Colin Gleesterie was

927
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: probably the most important player there. Other started to guard

928
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: just more. He's hurt, like he played last game, but

929
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: he didn't look right. They played two games since losing Glaster.

930
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: They lost against Providence, who's not good this year, and

931
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 1: then they lost to Georgetown, which in hindsight, it doesn't

932
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: look as bad at a loss, but he was so

933
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: important for that offense, and he was the guy the creator,

934
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: and they had such a pretty ball movement and they

935
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: would generate so many open shots, and Gollespie he was

936
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,479
Speaker 1: also the on floor leader. So it's a big loss

937
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: to try and then eat it. As brilliant as Jay

938
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Right is and I think that he deserves the benefit

939
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: of the doubt and that he can potentially put something

940
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: together here. But this Villanova team defensively was already flawed,

941
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: especially inside. The with the with theer is really good,

942
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: by the way, But my problem is I don't know

943
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: if I can't trust Villanova putting it all together for

944
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: a Final four run. I don't even know if they're

945
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: gonnae in the first round because I just haven't seen enough.

946
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: But if you want to give j Right the better

947
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: of it out to go to the sweet six team,

948
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: that's fine. My biggest problem is they are very weak

949
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: on the interior. They don't have a glasspy on the outside.

950
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna go against Perdue and their bigs um,

951
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 1: that would be I think a really bad matchup. Now

952
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: the what fits the profiles. A bracket buster would be

953
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: North Texas because well coached, grind, they want to play

954
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: a game fifty two to fifty. They are one of

955
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: the slowest teams in the nation. They shoot a lot

956
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: of threes. Perdue gives up a lot of threes, so

957
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: that could be a potential bracktist. My problem there is

958
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: Perdue as one of the best posts in ball of

959
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: college basketball trevy on Williams is excellent. Zach Eats really

960
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: come on, they just have so much size. And Simmons

961
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: is a good interior defender, but I don't think that

962
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: he could sun up person. Whatever Purdue needs a bucket,

963
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: even though this game could have a lot of high

964
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: variants because there's a lot of threes and it's been

965
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: low scoring totally, I think is one. I think whatever

966
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: Purdue needs a bucket down the stretch, they can go

967
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: in to Williams or Eady and and that's gonna be

968
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: the difference for Perdue. But North Texas fits the profile.

969
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: You want a lot of threes, low scoring game, higher variants.

970
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: But I just haven't seen enough with billan Nova host Callespie.

971
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: It's tough to recreate your offense, even for Jay Right.

972
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: But you're not being correct and saying that, Hey, I'm

973
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: gonna give Jay Right to benefit of the doubt here.

974
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna switch him out right now, because like that

975
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: only we said makes sense. I know he's out, so

976
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: that makes sense that that's why people are doubting them.

977
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: So listen, I'm gonna make an executive decision right now.

978
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that in the South I'm looking at

979
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: my notes are bracketbuster. And by the way, a bracketbuster

980
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: doesn't have to go to this sweet sixteen. You just

981
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: gotta be smart enough to make the right call for

982
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: the first and or second round. I'm calling Winthrop in

983
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: the first round. I am putting it on Winthrop. That

984
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: is going to be how I'm going to accrue a

985
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: lot of extra points when I'm building my bracket. And then,

986
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: like you stuck, I like Arkansas going to the final four,

987
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: probably because I've heard you say it a thousand times. Yeah,

988
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: And you just when you want to pick one of

989
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: these bracket busters, you want to be really confident in

990
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: another team in that half making it to the lead

991
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: eight or to the final four. Where if because the

992
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: worst what will ruin your bracket is if you pick

993
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: one of these bracketbusters and then that team and they

994
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: don't win, and then that team ends up going to

995
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: the final four, right, and you had you lost all

996
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 1: those points on the way, and other people are gonna

997
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: have that team going to the final four. So when

998
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: you want to pick one of these upsets, you want

999
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: to be very confident in another team that is gonna

1000
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: make it to the lead eight. So if it doesn't happen,

1001
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: it's not gonna kill your whole bracket. Simon, who now,

1002
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: knowing what you know now about Jay Wright in Villanova,

1003
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: what would you say about the South Region for you?

1004
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: Just because I don't want to copy you, guys, I'll

1005
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: roll for do they like? That's I just like Big

1006
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: Ten teams, So it's kind of a cop out. But

1007
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: they're the only other team that, like, I really know

1008
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 1: a lot about and I know, like what he was saying,

1009
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: Like they're great defensively, and they can shoot threes, and

1010
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: like when it comes to the tournament time, that's what

1011
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. So it makes me a little nervous.

1012
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: He says, they can lose in the first round, but

1013
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: what can what can you do? I just don't want

1014
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: to follow the masses take Arkansas. I do not like Taylors,

1015
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: so I'll ride with. Look, I'm fine with that. I mean,

1016
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: I feel in this instance, I kind of know more

1017
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: than you, and so I'm fine with you guessing. And

1018
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: it's the one time during the year where I get

1019
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: to be a little bit sharper, maybe because I have

1020
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: listened to every episode of the Action Network podcast, the

1021
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: College Basketball version with Colin Stucky. So I am I'm

1022
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: loaded locked in uh and and Mr Randall and I

1023
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: have I have two brackets already that I've filled out

1024
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: for contest. Probably do one more another contest. I could

1025
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: change it, but as of now, I have Arkansas and

1026
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: the Final Four on one and Perdue in the other.

1027
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: So all right, there you go. Alright, So then our

1028
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: bracketbusters to remind everybody. In the West, we like Ohio

1029
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: as our bracketbuster. We like Ohio get into the sweet sixteen,

1030
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: but we like on Zagga making it to the final four.

1031
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: We like in the East, we're gonna go I am

1032
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: going with Abilene Christian to beat Texas in the first round.

1033
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: That will be our bracketbuster there, but we like Florida

1034
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: State to make it to the final four. In the Midwest,

1035
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: we like Illinois to make it to the final four,

1036
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: but we do like Liberty as our bracketbuster. And then

1037
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: in the South, we like win Thrip to at least

1038
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: win a first round game. Most likely of the teams

1039
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: that sort of have a chance that are underdogs, we

1040
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: like Arkansas or Perdue to go to the final four.

1041
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: That's gonna win people some brackets. And in this time

1042
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: of COVID where people have not had a chance to

1043
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: do brackets together since Virginia one it all. I think

1044
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: we've provided a service, fellows. We'll find out chat before

1045
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: we got Oh, I gotta show this off. I pulled

1046
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: it out just for you and Cowherd. So this is

1047
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy V. It's from U two thousand three. It has

1048
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: your signature on there, it has Berman as Pat Summer all,

1049
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's, We've got Vince Carter and then Colin Cowherd,

1050
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: you and Chad on the same thing. Look at that

1051
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: both signed this two thousand three. Chad, what is that

1052
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: from just some people that you pulled a frame off

1053
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: the wall? That is a picture of Jimmy Jimmy Valvano

1054
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: from two thousand three. Yeah, and it's signed by all

1055
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: these famous people and then for some reason you're on it.

1056
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: That's so random. I don't even remember signing that. It's

1057
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: really right. I mean the names on your super random,

1058
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: Like Shaquille O'Neil's on here. So yeah, it's a pretty

1059
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: pretty cool piece, right. I think it was one of

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Speaker 1: those um it was at Pinehurst. It was like a

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Speaker 1: Jimmy V Foundation auction thing, so so I didn't know

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Speaker 1: when did you? And you and Cowherd started. You guys

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Speaker 1: were both working East Bend in two thousand three, definitely,

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Speaker 1: I mean Colin was there. Colin was I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: Colin was there in two thousand three. Look at that man.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I've had your guys names hanging on my

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Speaker 1: wall these years, and now you're both my employers. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty random, unbelievable. Well, listen, uh is this picture

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Speaker 1: what this pic? I was? I was told to show

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Speaker 1: this to you. That is uh? When uh black hair

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Speaker 1: Colin's Sunday football show? That is um when Colin was

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Speaker 1: the pioneer at ESPN who started a football show and

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Speaker 1: said I have to have gambling on it. And I

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Speaker 1: remember very clearly. We were walking through the hallway of

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Speaker 1: Building two, which is where all the radio studios are

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Speaker 1: and where Colin did his radio show, and he's like, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm starting this football show on Sundays. I'm gonna do gambling.

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Speaker 1: I want to do gambling for like ten minutes. I

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Speaker 1: think it'd be amazing. I think that's what the people

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Speaker 1: really want, because I want you to come on, can

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Speaker 1: you do ten minutes of gambling? I'm like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: can do that, and so I would say two thousand.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was, by the way, I was at

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Speaker 1: ESPN nine eight to two thousand seventeen, so this would

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Speaker 1: have been in like two thousand thirteen, maybe two two thirteen,

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Speaker 1: and uh yeah. He asked me to come do it,

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Speaker 1: and then we started doing it and he had this

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Speaker 1: show that was super fun, great producers, really creative, and

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Speaker 1: he had me come on and do gambling segments and

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Speaker 1: we'd sit there for fifteen minutes talking about who's gonna

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Speaker 1: win and lose. It was a blast. Now you're back together, man,

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