1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: News from Hey. He's daring Tom Holming become an erecto. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Should he do it? 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 2: I would do it, Tom. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 3: I think it's great. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 4: Gavin likes publicity, but I think it would everything he's. 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 5: Done a terrible job. 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 3: Look, because I like Gavenus and he's a nice guy, 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: but he's grossly inconfidence. 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 5: Everybody knows. 10 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: All you have to do is look at the little 11 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 3: railroad he's building. 12 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 5: It's about one hundred times over budget. We're putting a 13 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 5: flag fall over there under budget. I always do under hearing. 14 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 6: Tel'll tell you about the people call call the problem 15 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 6: you are they? Are they people I just trying to 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 6: deport her? 17 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: Are they professional adjecate people that are causing the problem? 18 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 7: Are professional agitators, They're insurrectionists. 19 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: They're bad people. They should be in jail. 20 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 5: Thank you. Trump is on plan. 21 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 8: This has been the plan. 22 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 9: Trump has selected California, he selected Los Angeles, and he 23 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 9: selected Gavin Newsom to wage this first political battle with governor. 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 9: And he has been dictating the pace and the terms 25 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 9: of everything for the last couple of months. And he's 26 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 9: now challenging Newsom and the Democrats and America to stop him. 27 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 9: Whether or not this is bad for Newsom or bad 28 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 9: for Trump. It's bad for America. It's bad for our democracy. 29 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 9: It's bad for the troops and uniform, it's bad for Ice, 30 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 9: it's bad for the protesters, it's bad for everyone. Who 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 9: it's not bad for is Vladimir Putin and North Korea 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 9: and any other enemies that want to celebrate America divided. 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 9: So I think this is a test case for Trump 34 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 9: on whether or not he can roll over Newsom. Is 35 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 9: Newsom going to be a martyr or is he going 36 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 9: to be an example of what can happen in other states? 37 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 9: But I think Trump is on plan. He's moving forward 38 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 9: and he's going to continue to do this and challenge 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 9: other governors in days to come. 40 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 10: But he picked Newsom, and now it's on what. 41 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: Do you make of the fact that he says, you 42 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: want a civil war on the streets of America. 43 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: No, it's just as I don't want a civil war. 44 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: Civil war would happen if you if you left it 45 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: to people like him. And I liked him, you know, 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: I always got along with him. We never had a 47 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: problem with him. But he's grossly incompetent. He's any competent governor. 48 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: Look at the job he's doing in California. He's destroying 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: one of our great states. And if I didn't get involved, 50 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 3: if we didn't bring the Guard in, and we would 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: bring more in if we needed it, because we have 52 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: to make sure there's going to be law and order. 53 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: You had a disaster happening, and they now admit it 54 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 3: was a disaster. I watched the chief yesterday. It was 55 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: a good man, by the way, and he said, well, 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: we're lucky we did this because they were overwhelmed. 57 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: You saw what was happening, so we did the right thing. 58 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 5: Everybody agrees to that. 59 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: But you have a governor who let the city burn down, 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: and we didn't want water to be sent down to him, 61 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: and I sent billions of gallons of water. 62 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: Said I wanted to do it in the first term. 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: They wouldn't do it over I don't know they have 64 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: environmental reasons, but there were no environmental reasons. I think 65 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: it's just a political philosophy. But it's lucky for the 66 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: people in Los Angeles end in California that we did 67 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: what we did. 68 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 5: We got it just in time. It's still simmering a 69 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 5: little bit, but not very much. 70 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: Career Pentagon was sort of scrambling last night to figure 71 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: out what to do. 72 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 8: The last thing they want is active. 73 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: Duties troops taking on protesters on American streets. They fought 74 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: mightily against that during the George Floyd protests. And this 75 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: is something that nobody thought that these demonstrations that were 76 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: that seemed to be sort of routine demonstrations on Friday 77 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: night would ignite into something that will require this level 78 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: of military military intervention, especially when you have coming up 79 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: this weekend, this Trump Military Parade, Army Birthday military parade 80 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: that Washington, DC is bracing for. You had all of 81 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: these m one Abram tanks arriving, they are going to 82 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: be all there's going to be all this military hardware rolling. 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 11: Down the streets of Washington, d C. 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: And there's a very real worry again among the career 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: and professional military of this sort of look that we 86 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: are militarizing the country. 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: The big picture is Los Angeles is a so called 88 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: majority minority city and a majority minority state. There are 89 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: more people of color that live in Los Angeles than 90 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: white people at this point, and many of those people 91 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: are undocumented, some by some counts, ten percent of the 92 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: population of La County. One of the largest counties. The 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: largest county by population in the United States is not documented, 94 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: maybe as many as a million people. Those people are 95 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: our neighbors, are coworkers, are classmates, our friends, our parishioners, 96 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: fellow parishioners, and churches. They are part of the fabric 97 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: of the city of Los Angeles. And not in the 98 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: last many decades under demoocratic nor Republican presidents, despite the 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: fact that you had presidents with big deportation programs democratic 100 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: and Republican, as you have so often reported, have we 101 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: seen the type of immigration enforced since we saw play 102 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: out on the streets of Los Angeles on Friday, and 103 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: that struck fear into the heart of not just the 104 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: undocumented community here, but of many US citizen family members 105 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: of undocumented people, and many US citizens who know those people, 106 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: because that is removing people from this community who have 107 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: been here, if not their entire life, virtually their entire lives. 108 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: There are so many mixed status families that live in 109 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: Los Angeles that might have an undocumented parent or relative 110 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: and US citizen child or cousin who We've talked about 111 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: this before. The family separation policy of the first Trump 112 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: administration in twenty eighteen was a deliberate ripping a part 113 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: of parents and children at the border to separate those 114 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: families and inflict pain those families. But when I say 115 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: mass deportation is family separation, when I say those signs 116 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: that were held up on the floor of the Republican Convention, 117 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: as I talk to you from the floor of that convention, 118 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: was a sign of what was to come and why, 119 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: that is also a form of family separation. It is 120 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: family separation in the interior. It's taking parents away from 121 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: their children, not at the border and not in detention centers, 122 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: but at a home depot, on a street corner, or 123 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: outside of a school, or at a workplace in the 124 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: fashion district where they might be working in a factory. 125 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: It's a different form of family separation, and it's exactly 126 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: the intent of this administration modeled after Nicole Dwight, the 127 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: Eisenhower's nineteen fifty four operation with a name so racist, 128 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it here to you right now, 129 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: but they're resulted in a million Mexicans and some Mexican 130 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: Americans being sent to Mexico in the wake of the 131 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: Brasero program coming here legally in the nineteen fifties. That's 132 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: what the trump At administration is modeling this program after 133 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: their stated goal. They've talked about it. 134 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 10: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 135 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 10: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. 136 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 10: He's not got a free shot. All these networks lying 137 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 10: about the people, the people have pad a belly full 138 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 10: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I 139 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 10: know you tried to do everything in the world. 140 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 8: To stop that, but you're not going to stop it. 141 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 10: It's going to happen. 142 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 8: And where do people like that go to share the 143 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 8: big line? Mega media? 144 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 10: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 145 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 10: these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 10: task and what is my purpose? If that answer is 147 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 10: to save my country, this country will be saved. 148 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 8: Or use your host, Stephen k Maan. 149 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 10: I love so Beruf of MSNBC saying our colleagues, he 150 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 10: means his garden or his nanny. He's made these people 151 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 10: are so hypocritical. Monday, nine June. You're of a Lord 152 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 10: twenty twenty five. It's only ratcheting up in Los Angeles. 153 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 10: My understanding from high officials that they're gonna double a 154 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 10: triple the number of ICE rates today as they should. 155 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 10: We've got ten million illegal alien invaders to get out 156 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 10: that came in on Biden's watch, including to me, and 157 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 10: it got aways. Ben Berkwham joints. I'm gonna get back 158 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 10: into the Pentagon. The MSNBC reporter for the Pentagon, which 159 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 10: jay I grew with Jack Posova, her press credential should 160 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 10: be removed immediately. She know only questions whether there's there's 161 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 10: a political appointees in permanent uniform, military services and civilians, 162 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 10: but she basically says they're not paying it, they're not 163 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 10: going to pay attention to and they totally disagree with 164 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 10: the commander in chief. We know that's not true. So 165 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 10: they're either committing treason but I found the mandar in chief, 166 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 10: which they're sworn to do, or she's lying and shuld 167 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 10: be removed. I want to go to Ben berkram Ben. 168 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 10: My understanding is ICE is not dialing down today, but 169 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 10: the things can heat up. They're also sending they're supposed 170 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 10: to have additional I think revolutionary activity this evening, but 171 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 10: they're building to a crescendo this Saturday when President Trump 172 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 10: has the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Army's formation. 173 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 10: Around the country, they're going to they have a No 174 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 10: King's rally everywhere where. They're going to try to disrupt 175 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 10: the unity in the subtlebratory nature of this Saturday with 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 10: the American people. You're what's going on in La Ben. 177 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 12: Yeah, Steve, You're right. This is coordinated and it's just beginning. 178 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 12: We're seeing it right now. They're just starting to ramp up. 179 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 12: I'm just a couple of blocks away from where they 180 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 12: burn those cars this morning. This is the ice building 181 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 12: I was at this morning. While it was pretty quiet, 182 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 12: you've got the g coming out. They just had a 183 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 12: big protest SEIU and all the unions, which is ironic, 184 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 12: labor unions out in support of illegal aliens, which if 185 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 12: you are in a labor union, you should not support. 186 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 12: Your dudes go into that union if they're supporting illegal 187 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 12: aliens coming in. 188 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 8: But now we've got this. 189 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 12: Group, multiple groups, Antifa and different violent agitators are out here. 190 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 12: They're planning on more violence today. Just around the corner 191 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 12: of the building is where the fires were lit on 192 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 12: the vehicles. 193 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 5: We've got police lined up right now. 194 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 12: Blocking the entrances to the freeways, trying to prevent them 195 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 12: from going onto the freeways. 196 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 5: We've got school kids that were. 197 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 12: Coming out that were being taught Marxism, being let out 198 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 12: of their schools early to come out to join this. 199 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 12: We've got National Guard on the other side of the building, 200 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 12: and actually just over my shoulder here by the hospital, 201 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 12: we've got National Guard lined up. So it's set up 202 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 12: to be another one of these situations. But to your 203 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 12: earlier point, ICE is not backing down. President Trump's not 204 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 12: backing down. Tom Holman's not backing down. They're just getting started. 205 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 12: And the whole point of this is to try to 206 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 12: intimidate them into stopping the deportations. 207 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 10: Why is ICE going to come out to say, afternoon me, 208 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 10: why are they not picking these people up at the 209 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 10: at the at these uh at these demonstrations, because they're 210 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 10: not they're not peaceful protests. They turn violent at these 211 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 10: violent examples of what they're trying to accomplish. Why do 212 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 10: the police, why don't they just taking these people in Ice, 213 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 10: stole them in the in the back and ship them out. 214 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 12: Sir, Okay, yeah, they should be. They should be checking 215 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 12: every single person here. I mean when you're flying a 216 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 12: Mexican flag. There's a truck driving around flying a Mexican flag. 217 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 12: There's a lot of them out here. If you're out 218 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 12: here burning the American flag and waving some other foreign 219 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 12: country's flag, we should check your papers on the spot, 220 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 12: and if you're here illegally, you should be deported. 221 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 11: Now. 222 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 12: Whether or not that's happening, I don't know. I have 223 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 12: heard different reports that ICE is actually picking people up 224 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 12: when they arrest them, if they arrest them for some 225 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 12: violent act, they're checking whether they're here legally, and they 226 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 12: are deporting or working on deporting those people. But you're right, 227 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 12: I mean, they should be out in every single one 228 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 12: of these crowds and and going through every single one 229 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 12: of the people that are out here, especially if you're 230 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 12: weren't waving a foreign country's flag. 231 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 10: One of the one of the engine room participants this 232 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 10: morning sent me something that Glendale voted today to I 233 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 10: think their city council voted to pull the contract for 234 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 10: ICE to basically share the jail facility. Uh, what about 235 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 10: these government officials they're getting in the way, Is there 236 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 10: any is there any For instance, bass Newsome, all of 237 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 10: them been smacked talking the entire time. Why are we 238 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 10: not taking action to arrest these people? 239 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 5: You know, I don't know. 240 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 12: I don't I don't have an answer for you on that, Steve. 241 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 12: It's frustrating. I mean, you look at the left. They 242 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 12: can they can actually do an invasion into our country. 243 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 8: Here we go. 244 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 12: We got some more of these lovely people here waving 245 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 12: their foreign country flag. 246 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 10: F I by the way, that's Dan, that's America. Camera 247 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 10: back over, put the camera back on. Only seen every face. 248 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 10: Excuse me, your beautiful visage right there. That's what I 249 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 10: want to say. They're in your grill. Yeah to them, 250 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 10: this is Mexican. Just just just stay just just stay 251 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 10: right there. This is I want people to understand how 252 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 10: in your face they are right to just they're mocking you. 253 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 10: This is not your country, this is Mexico, right, and 254 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 10: they're going to continue to do that. This is why, 255 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 10: this is why you've You've got the h you've got 256 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 10: the the Palestinian flag, you have the Mexican flag. You know, 257 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 10: you're nothing but a colonizer. You're nothing. You are here illegal. 258 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 10: By the way, Ben Berklin, stay right there. Can I 259 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 10: get Ben's face again? I gotta see that our star 260 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 10: Ben burklan O, God, I don't need a split screen 261 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 10: at me, wrong decision. Okay. My Stone from sly In 262 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 10: the Family Stone is dead at the age of eighty two, 263 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 10: an American original. We're going to play some of his 264 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 10: music today throughout the throughout the day. At the age 265 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 10: of sixteen. I think it was seventeen July nineteen seven 266 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 10: in the Richmond Arena, which is basically a trolley car 267 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 10: bond turned into a basketball arena. At sixteen, I was 268 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 10: there for a blanket concert started eight thirty in the evening. 269 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 10: The opening act came on I think at eight thirty. 270 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 10: Sly in the Family Stone, as was their wont came 271 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 10: on up a little later. I think it was one 272 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 10: in the morning. They didn't have a curfew back then. 273 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 10: I think these guys played to slide the Family Stone played, 274 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 10: I don't know two or three. We're gonna play some music, 275 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 10: contribute sure commercial break back to Los Angeles in moment. 276 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 8: Here's your host, Stephen k Bas. 277 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 10: Okay, we have do we have my clip? Just tell 278 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 10: me when it's ready. Okay, just tell me when it's ready. 279 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 10: We're gonna play it for Jack Posobic Ben Berkwam what 280 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 10: are you hearing about additional and further ice rates. I 281 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 10: think they should have come out and an announced, hey, 282 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 10: we're going to do if this is a baseline, we're 283 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 10: going up two or three. The only way to win 284 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 10: here is to double and triple down. The media, in 285 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 10: the left wing apparatus in deep state that run this 286 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 10: country want us to blink, want us to back down. 287 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 10: This is why President Trump continues to double down. But 288 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 10: unlike twenty twenty, we got to deliver the goods here 289 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 10: in the summer of love. It just can't be tweets 290 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 10: and talk. It's got to be action. President Trump was 291 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 10: started then by Milly and Esper. You know who, basically 292 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 10: to me, committed treason. I don't know why they're not 293 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 10: being investigated by DJ already or by the Pentagon, at 294 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 10: least Millie in some sort of some sort of military tribunal. 295 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 10: They thwarted him in June of twenty twenty. We know 296 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 10: that Bill Barr thwarted him. So I had people around 297 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 10: him were not loyal to him, not loyal to the 298 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 10: constitutional throning. He doesn't have that this time. Let's rock 299 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 10: and roll. I also want to say, now, Stephen Miller 300 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 10: is a God said to this country. I've known Steven 301 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 10: since the very young man. Stephen Miller has always said 302 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 10: since I've known him, and I think even before when 303 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 10: he was a young a young man and I mean 304 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 10: a very young man, almost a boy at Santa Monica 305 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 10: Junior High School, the middle school, that the battle for 306 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 10: America was going to take place in Los Angeles. He 307 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 10: has felt this in his bones. He's from LA. He's 308 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 10: one that magnificent crew of Andrew Breitbart and Alex Marlowe 309 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 10: and Stephen Miller and others that all came from kind 310 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 10: of West LA. And it's amazing this kind of fire 311 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 10: breathing conservatives that have come from there. And Andrew always 312 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 10: said the battle for the future America is going to 313 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 10: be Los Angeles. He was talking culture. Stephen Miller's talking 314 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 10: in the streets, and this is where it's going to happen. 315 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 10: And Stephen Miller, I'm telling you right now, he is. 316 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 10: We didn't have Stephen Miller. He is the mastermind of 317 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 10: the domestic policy, and he's mastermind of shutting down the 318 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 10: border and giving President Trump all the tools that President 319 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 10: Trump can use to actually execute. And that's what President 320 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 10: Trump is doing as commander in chief. Also Steven's you know, 321 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 10: there's a lot to talk about, you know, Elon Musk. 322 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 10: I think you might have heard something here on this 323 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 10: show once or twice. And Katie Miller, who was a 324 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 10: fantastic in the first term, married Steven. They're a power couple. 325 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 10: If you think Steven Miller's smart and tough, he's about 326 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 10: half as smart and tough as Katie. The wife known 327 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 10: her a long time. She is a total and complete hammer. 328 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 10: And hey, people saying oh, well she went to Elon 329 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 10: must listen. Thank god, in this republic, we've got somebody 330 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 10: like Katie Miller that can manage the insane asylum that 331 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 10: is Elon Musk. Katie ought to. Katie's got to stay there. 332 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 10: It's one of the best things that happened is she's 333 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 10: absolutely a not just a power player, she's a patriot, 334 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 10: both of them. They are a couple that are patriots, 335 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 10: and they're an enormous pressure and security risk. People don't 336 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 10: know this. The security risk to Katie and Steven has 337 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 10: been very high because Steven's up front. Stephen Miller does 338 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 10: not back down. You see him on TV and he 339 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 10: lays out and he's kind of the he's one of 340 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 10: the quarterbacks here and making it happen. Ben, we would 341 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 10: like to see more. We've got a I think at 342 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 10: twenty nine Palms, we've got a brigade, a battalion. I 343 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 10: think a battalion coming up from potentially coming up from 344 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 10: twenty nine Palms of the United States Marines. And I 345 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 10: think the audacious Benny Johnson I may actually be in 346 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 10: bed with him. 347 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 5: What do you know? 348 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what I'm here, And I just saw Benny's 349 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 12: post earlier. I'm we just got some b roll here 350 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 12: that these are the cars that they burned, yesterd just 351 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 12: go and buy us to clean up, just finally wrapped 352 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 12: up around the corner from us. 353 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 10: But that's what I hear. 354 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 12: I hear Benny's embedded with them, and they're gonna be 355 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 12: making their way down here. But to your your other point, 356 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 12: I mean, this is one of the things you got 357 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 12: to give it to the left. They always circle the 358 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 12: wagons and they you know, you look at what they 359 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 12: did with the invasion on our southern border. 360 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 5: They doubled down. 361 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 12: And now when you actually have President Trump rightfully going, 362 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 12: you've got Ice and Tom Holman rightfully going and picking 363 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 12: up not only illegal aliens, but illegal aliens that committed 364 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 12: additional crime, some of the most heinous you can imagine. 365 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 12: The Left is doubling down, tripling down, and going after 366 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 12: the very people that are sworn to protect our borders, 367 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 12: to protect our country, that which is what really makes 368 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 12: us a country. On our side, we're more worried about 369 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 12: getting called names. And the American people are sick of it. 370 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 12: I mean they when the way they hear Tom Holman 371 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 12: come out and say we're gonna rest Gavin Newsom, We're 372 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 12: gonna rest care and Bass. They want it to happen now, 373 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 12: and the longer it goes on where they don't, the 374 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 12: American people just say, well, there you go. 375 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 8: They were pub. 376 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 12: Pulicans, big talk again and not doing anything. They want 377 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 12: these arrests to happen, and if they don't happen, but 378 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 12: Steven's right, this is the death of our country. 379 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 7: Peck. 380 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 5: The building is spray painted on. You can't see it 381 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 5: right now. Death to America. That's what they want. 382 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 10: This morning, Ben, I jumped you a little bit because 383 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 10: you went back to third There are thirty million or 384 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 10: more illegal aliens in the country. I totally subscribe that. 385 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 10: I was talking about just the ones that came in 386 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 10: on Biden's regime to get out and get out now. 387 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 10: And the reason there's this difference is as the Republican 388 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 10: Party never would step up to the plate and say 389 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 10: this can't happen. We got to deport these people. They 390 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 10: were too weak. And the reason is this is hard 391 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 10: for President Trump. There's one thing about the bad own braves, 392 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 10: the criminals, it's also you've got it, all of them. 393 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 10: Everybody's got to be deported. Hispanic citizens are getting crushed. 394 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 10: African American citizens are getting crushed. Their schools, their healthcare, 395 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 10: the crime and the community and the wages. Nothing's better 396 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 10: because nothing is better for Yeah, are the wealthy getting 397 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 10: cheaper nannies? Are the wealthy getting their lawns cut cheaper? 398 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 10: Remember they don't really pay the price of because they 399 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 10: getting huge tax cuts. They don't really pay the price 400 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 10: for the collapsing medical system and emergency healthcare system and 401 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 10: the educationism. That's all dumb, that's all that's because the 402 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 10: poor user services. Of course, it's unlimited upside for the 403 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 10: wealthy to do this and this way, I see soberroth 404 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 10: in those guys. You know they're they're laughing in your face. 405 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 10: This is the This is what Stephen Miller is saying. 406 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 10: This is what Ice is doing. It's the deportations. When 407 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 10: they we opened the show and they said, hey, the 408 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 10: trauma of actually people coming in at Yes, people are 409 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 10: here illegally. They came here on Biden's watch. Have got 410 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 10: to go. We have program right now for a million 411 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 10: Ben tonight. Uh tell me how how dice is this 412 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 10: thing going to get tonight. 413 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 12: It's gonna be ugly. It's gonna get more and more violent. 414 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 12: It's not a safe place to be if you live 415 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 12: in LA. A lot of businesses shut down when this 416 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 12: stuff happens because they know these guys are violent thugs. 417 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 12: Undoubtedly they're going to take over the freeways again. Unless 418 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 12: President Trump and less the National Guard is allowed to 419 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 12: do what it needs to do and actually give the 420 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 12: spankings that these spoiled little kids deserve, it's going to 421 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 12: be really, really ugly. And until the American people say 422 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 12: enough is enough and stand up and say we got 423 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 12: your back, President Trump, we got your back, Steven Miller, 424 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 12: we got your back, Tom Holman. That's what we need 425 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 12: to see across the country. We need to see counter 426 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 12: protests with people coming out and saying we support you, 427 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 12: and thank god Steve, thank God for President Trump, thank 428 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 12: God for Tom Holman, thank God for Steven Miller, for 429 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 12: these guys that have the balls to. 430 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 5: Actually do it. 431 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 12: We've had such woosy Republicans for so long to actually 432 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 12: have guys that'll come out and stand up and actually 433 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 12: do what needs to be done. 434 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 8: And now we're in that point. 435 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 12: Right now, it's just getting started. 436 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 5: It's going to be ugly. 437 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 10: Ben, thank you social media where they get you. I 438 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 10: may try tracking them for the six o'clock hour, because 439 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 10: when one updates in this, I agree with you, it's 440 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 10: your three hours behind us. But as it gets darker 441 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 10: out there, it's going to get ugly. The engine room 442 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 10: up in Napa Valley did send me. I think they 443 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 10: arrested one hundred and fifty four combatants up up in 444 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 10: San Francisco. They need to have those type of arrests 445 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 10: they need. They need to arrest a thousand people plus tonight, 446 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 10: and not just processing in and app but I mean 447 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 10: really arrest them for insurrection. Ben Berkwam your social media. 448 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 12: Real America's Voice at real AM Voice on social media, 449 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 12: We're going to start posting some of the videos I've 450 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 12: got already. We're going to be obviously getting a lot 451 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 12: more tonight, so stay tuned for that. My substack if 452 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 12: you want to subscribe, especially paid subscribers really appreciate it. 453 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 12: It's Frontline America on substack, and my personal social is 454 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 12: just my name, Ben Berkwam. I'll be posting the videos 455 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 12: and anything breaks down here, Steve, I'll be getting back 456 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 12: to you and Cameron and we'll be jumping back on. 457 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you get to it right away. Ben Berkwham 458 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 10: on the scene as usual. Can we play this clip 459 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 10: from MSMC. Let's go to play this clip from this morning. 460 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: I need to differentiate when I say the Pentagon now, 461 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: because there is the Pentagon that are the political appointees 462 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: of President Trump, and then there is the professional Pentagon, 463 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: the military people, and the career Pentagon. The career Pentagon 464 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: was sort of scrambling last night to figure. 465 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 5: Out what to do. 466 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 11: The last thing they want is. 467 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: Active duties troops taking on protesters on American streets. They 468 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: fought mightily against that during the George Floyd protests. And 469 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: this is something that nobody thought. 470 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 11: That these demonstrations that were that seemed to be sort 471 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 11: of routine demonstrations on Friday night would ignite into something 472 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 11: that will require this level of military military intervention, especially 473 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 11: when you have coming up this weekend, this Trump Military Parade, 474 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 11: Army Birthday military parade that Washington, DC is bracing for. 475 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: You had all of these M one Abram tanks arriving. 476 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: They are going to be all there's going to be 477 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: all this military hardware rolling down the streets of Washington, DC. 478 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: And then there's a very real worry again among the 479 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: career and professional military of this sort of look that 480 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: we are militarizing the country. I think things are going 481 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: to have to get a lot worse if you get 482 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: to the point where American troops are being asked or 483 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: tasked with shooting protesters, you will then see this discomfort 484 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: manufacturer in public. Right now, what you're seeing is just 485 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: sort of we're gonna they are still trying to salute. 486 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 10: You have an insurrection. President Trump is going to initiate 487 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 10: the Insurrection Act. It's a pure purview to do this. 488 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 10: I was on BBC this saffern it'll be up in 489 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 10: a while where the correspondent, oh, not this with peaceful 490 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 10: protesters far from it. This gets back to George Floyd situation. 491 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 10: Remember Esper and Milly, if you had this situation in 492 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 10: Jackson Square, went back and went back and decided amongst 493 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 10: themselves that hey, we can't We're not going to actually 494 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 10: report to President Trump's commander treat They made a pack 495 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 10: between the show. This is why Millie's got to be 496 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 10: called back to active duty in court martial, go before 497 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 10: a military tribunal. Either she's she I don't understand how 498 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 10: Sean Parnell who contacts that, I mean, how she has 499 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 10: a press pass to the Pentagon. Let me say something 500 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 10: as a junior officer, when I came off of sea 501 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 10: duty after four years in the destroyer, was back in 502 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 10: the Pentagon working for the Chief and natal operations. Hey, 503 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 10: the media didn't roll like that. Pentagon would have pulled 504 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 10: that press pass. In a second short commercial break, our 505 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 10: Salute to sly Stone Dead at eighty two, an American 506 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 10: legend and American classic short commercial break, David Mammott on 507 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 10: the other. 508 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 6: Side that the trumpet mean that the election was stolen, 509 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 6: and I was kind of iffy on it. Right next morning, 510 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 6: eight o'clock, the phone rings. Woman on the phone says 511 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 6: mister manntoll you hold for the president? He said, Biden 512 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 6: is congs It's Trump. He's during the Biden administration. And 513 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 6: he says, David, it's Donald Trump. I say, oh, miss President, 514 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 6: thank you for calling to what the way all the honor? 515 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 6: He said, I saw you on Bill Moyester. You were great, 516 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 6: He said, but you wor stout on the question of 517 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 6: the stolen election. And then he talked to me for 518 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 6: like twenty minutes about how the election was stolen. It well, 519 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 6: I think it was that I'm not talking about the votes. 520 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 6: I'm not talking about counting the votes. That the hunted 521 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 6: Biden laptop was suppressed, the COVID information was suppressed. Zuckerberg 522 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 6: said himself that the White House pressured him not to 523 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 6: bring forward the information on the laptop, and mas Musem said, 524 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 6: had that come out, there would have been a seventeen 525 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 6: points bad thing. 526 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 8: Please look, they're not they don't say them. 527 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 6: Will you, like me, have built a career out of 528 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 6: nothing except talent and a little bit of luck and 529 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 6: a lot of hard work. But you're full of what. 530 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 6: I don't understand when you say that. He did not 531 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 6: say the words I concede because half the country which 532 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 6: you just said to riot. No, I didn't say half 533 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 6: the country. I got another question. I sit down, and 534 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, you're attacking me about I got 535 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 6: to come up. I have to come up with a 536 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 6: new idea about Trump, and I have to talk. What 537 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 6: the hell do you care? Okay, let me ask you 538 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 6: a question. 539 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 8: Plan to attack you, and I'm sorry if you think 540 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 8: I'm attacking. 541 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 6: Well, okay, we just got you started off with a 542 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 6: very very difficult question and a question which you have 543 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 6: very strong views and I do too. How would you 544 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 6: like this part of the conversation to end so we 545 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 6: can move on to something else. 546 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 8: What would end it to your twenty minute mark? So 547 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 8: we could you send what? 548 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 6: What ended to your satisfaction. 549 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 13: When you wanted to end. I don't want to piss 550 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 13: you off. I'm your biggest fan. I don't the fact 551 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 13: that we don't agree on something so fundamental is still 552 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 13: completely okay with me. 553 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 8: I don't get it the way you don't get me. 554 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 13: You just said, I'm completely full of And of course 555 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 13: people have disagreed to this level. 556 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 8: They think that of the other person. 557 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 13: And what we have to do is, of course learn 558 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 13: to live harmoniously with people we just don't agree with 559 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 13: that much. So we can just get past this year, right, 560 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 13: we should, and I'm happy to. And there's a million 561 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 13: things in here and in the movie that I think 562 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 13: are great. Now I'd love to talk about if you 563 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 13: don't have a boarder, you don't have the country. 564 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,239 Speaker 10: Talent, hard work, and a little bit of luck. One 565 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 10: of America's leading public intellectuals and one of her greatest playwrights, 566 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 10: David mammontt joins me, David, in what world, how do 567 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 10: we get to a situation where you have the Mega 568 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 10: movement in back of President Trump, the hard cores, where 569 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 10: we have someone like David Mammott, who used to be 570 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 10: a quite frankly, a fire breathing liberal, is now defending 571 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 10: President Trump and defending the Mega movement. 572 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 7: Sir, well, I don't know that I was a fire 573 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 7: fire of meeting liberal liberal. I certainly was a liberal 574 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 7: because I was a h a congenital Democrat and uh, 575 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 7: but I my politics was limited to all those damned 576 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 7: Republicans until I got Blacklist, when I figured out a 577 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 7: bit of sit down and figure out what's going on 578 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 7: with this wonderful country. 579 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 4: So I spent a few years. 580 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 7: Stulminating and thinking and writing, and uh, I figured out 581 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 7: what was going on, which is that we stopped being 582 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 7: a constitutional republic, and that and that a dedication to 583 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 7: feeling rather than to reason and its expression law as 584 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 7: it always leads the violence. 585 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: And that's what J. S. 586 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 7: Mill said and on liberty, and that's also Rebecca West 587 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 7: said in the nineteen fifties. She said, every liberal administration 588 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 7: always ends in bloodshed. So that's where you find me 589 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 7: today's steed. 590 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 10: You were blacklisted for I think it was a it 591 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 10: was an essay you wrote. Did they put it on 592 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 10: the cover of Village Voice somewhere they put it on 593 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 10: the cover of and it exploded. What was the topic 594 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 10: of the essay and why did they blacklisted? 595 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: Well, I wasn't blacklisted for the essay. I was blacklisted for. 596 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 7: The cover of the Village Voice because I was doing 597 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 7: a play on Broadery at the time called November, which 598 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 7: is a comedy about a president and Nathan Lane played 599 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 7: the president. It's very funny play, and the Village Voice 600 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 7: asked me to write an article about the play, so 601 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 7: I did, and I said, the play is really about 602 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 7: political civility, It's about the craziness that politics could lead 603 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 7: us into. And I said, we must be civil to 604 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 7: each other. And what's the test of that. I have 605 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 7: to be able to say your position such that you 606 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 7: say that's correct. You have to be able to say 607 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 7: my position. So it's that I say that's correct. And 608 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 7: then we adduce facts, and any fact upon which we 609 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 7: can agree, we can reason from. But any fact upon 610 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 7: which we disagree on either side we throw off the table. 611 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 7: I said, that's political civility. I said, I haven't even 612 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 7: been civil to myself over the years, because I've been 613 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 7: referring to myself as a brain dead liberal. So next 614 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 7: week the Village Voice comes out. The whole front page 615 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 7: is why Dave Mammitt says, I am no longer a 616 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 7: brain dead liberal, and so I was blacklisted. But the 617 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 7: funny thing was, when I wrote the article, I was 618 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 7: a brain dead liberal and I was admitting it isn't 619 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 7: that cute, which a lot of people in my generation 620 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 7: may be younger, they will say that if you talk 621 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 7: to them, say how can you vote for these policies? 622 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 7: I'm a liberal, right, So that's what I was saying. 623 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 7: But I ain't a liberal no more? 624 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 10: Do you believe I think that was around two thousand 625 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 10: and five. Given what you're seeing on the streets of 626 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 10: Los Angeles, Can we still in this fight for the country? 627 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 10: Is civility as we fight for this to save our republic? 628 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 10: Is civility still high on your list? 629 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 7: Well, civility is important in the halls of Congress, and 630 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 7: civility is important in the news, and it's important in 631 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 7: the courts. 632 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 4: But at some point, a fight is a fight. 633 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 7: And when Tim Walltz made them evacuate the police station 634 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 7: that was Fort Sumter, that was the beginning of a 635 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 7: pro Drobo civil war, which we have in front of 636 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 7: us now. And there's a great book written by a 637 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 7: guy who was a Grand Duke of Russia's Alexey, a 638 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 7: Grand Duke of Russia. He was the head of the 639 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 7: Air Force leading up to World War One. He was 640 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 7: the cousin of the Tsar. They were like brothers, and 641 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 7: he wrote a book in exile after the Bolshevik Revolution. 642 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 7: He said there was nobody home. He said, we could 643 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 7: have stopped the Bolsheviks in the suburbs of Saint Petersburg 644 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 7: with the company of infantry. So at some point, if 645 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 7: you are constantly calling at the poker table. Someone's going 646 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 7: to raise you out and steal all your aunties and 647 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 7: send you walking back to Houston. So, as I was 648 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 7: listening to you earlier, at some point you have one 649 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 7: has to stand up and when all other remedies are 650 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 7: exhausted of the individual and the state have the right 651 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 7: to defend itself. 652 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 10: You know, California, you know Los Angeles. Is that the 653 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 10: moment we're in right now? I mean, the President says, hey, 654 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 10: he's going to call for the Insurrection Act. He's already 655 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 10: federalized the National Guard over the wishes of the state governor. 656 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 10: He is he is about to have a battalion of 657 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 10: US Marines active duty actually come up from twenty nine palms. 658 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 10: Are we at that moment right now in Los Angeles? 659 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 4: Well, of course, yes, of course we are. 660 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 7: And the what people haven't been saying, I haven't been 661 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 7: hearing is that the idea of the sanctuary state and 662 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 7: the sanctuary city. 663 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 4: Is insurrection. It's it's, it's it's and I don't understand. 664 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 10: And I know that. 665 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 7: You know, Trump wants to wants to wants to do reasons. First, 666 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 7: of course, he wants to diplombacy. First, of course, he 667 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 7: does but what he's looking at, what we're all looking at, 668 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 7: is basically sedition in secession, and at some point either 669 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 7: has to stop what the country's going to fall apart. 670 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 10: Now, I was raised in Richmond, Virginia, and you know 671 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 10: I said this, and I'd like to have your thoughts 672 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 10: on this about the sanctuary city sanctuary states. Is Governor 673 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 10: Knewsome kind of sounds like a neo Confederate. I mean, 674 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 10: there's one thing about federalism, but he's like hardcore states rises, 675 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 10: like John C. Calhoun versus Andrew Jackson. 676 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 7: Is it not, Sir Well, I don't think he's talking 677 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 7: about state trench. I think he's talking about whom, meaning 678 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 7: and if we don't let the illegals in, who's going 679 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 7: to vote for me? Because the Constitution is fairly clear, 680 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 7: and the supremacy clause is fairly clear, and you know, 681 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 7: the insurrection clauses are fairly clear. That someone has to 682 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 7: stop this rioting and that the BASS is not going 683 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 7: to do it, and Newsom is not going to do it. 684 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 7: And as American citizens were entitled to the protection of 685 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 7: the law, which is why federal law trump's state law, 686 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 7: but it hasn't done so for the last four six, 687 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 7: eight years, and if it doesn't desert itself, we don't 688 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 7: have a country left anymore. And that's the issue that 689 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 7: Trump ran on and got an overwhelming majority of US 690 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 7: fellow Americans to say, Yes, that's right, and that's where 691 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 7: we are. 692 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 4: Now. How's it going to end? We don't know. But 693 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 4: what we do know is that it's a fight could 694 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 4: be settled peacefully, I hope so, but it's gonna have 695 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 4: to be settled. 696 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 10: Well, we thought we settled it peacefully at the ballot 697 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 10: box where you said overwhelming and the polls are coming today. 698 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 10: I want to go back, though, something fascinating you said 699 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 10: about Tim Waltz in about the Summer of Love of 700 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 10: twenty twenty, where this was not addressed as forthrightly as 701 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 10: it looks like he's being addressed now. You said he 702 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 10: had the police leave the police headquarters. You call that 703 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 10: Fort Sutterer. 704 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: What do you mean by that? Well, that was really 705 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 4: the first shot of. 706 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 7: An escalation on what there's a pro drobal civil war 707 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 7: between the people who want to have the rule of 708 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 7: law and the constitution and the people who would rather law. 709 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 7: And so we had a sumberful of riots because not 710 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 7: only individuals who were misguided, and some individuals who like 711 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 7: chaos and are a lot of them. But organizations like 712 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 7: Black Lives Matter, which sprang into being to capitalize on 713 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 7: chaos and anarchy, took a lot of power with a 714 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 7: lot of people, and we're still working our way out 715 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 7: of that. 716 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: Where's it going to end? I don't know. What do 717 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 4: you think? 718 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 10: Before we go to break? 719 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 8: I do? 720 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 10: I want to pull up something from the book Trump 721 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 10: is a hero and his heirs God willing will increased 722 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 10: the longevity of the American experiment. 723 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 4: Do you see that? 724 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 10: Is that what this fight's about? On the streets of 725 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 10: Los Angeles? 726 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 4: Sir? 727 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 8: Of course? 728 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 7: But listen, I lived here in Los Angeles because I 729 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 7: like to be close to my tech and my wife 730 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 7: grew up in Edinburgh and Scotland, so like anybody from 731 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 7: the British Isles, they say this whether they ain't never leaving, 732 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 7: but it's it's it's the edge of the precisfest we 733 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 7: just saw. We had to evacuate our home during the 734 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 7: fires because Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom and the fire 735 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 7: Commission of La Butt the DEI was more important than water. 736 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 7: It's it's a sick community. Uh, and it's going to 737 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 7: have to. It's either going to be healed or it's 738 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 7: going to dissolve, and something is going to take place. 739 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 7: But what a lot of the stud the idiocy of 740 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 7: the left and the fellow travelers, we'll call them the liberals, 741 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 7: don't understand is that anarchy is always an excuse for 742 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 7: somebody to take power, because someone's always going to take power. 743 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 7: So they say, let's do away with the Constitution. Well, 744 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 7: what do you replace it with? 745 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. Well, what rules do you employ to 746 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 4: determine what you tube replace it with? I don't know. 747 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 7: Well, then, in a legitimate conversation, your next question that 748 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 7: the liberal would be, well, don't you think it's a 749 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 7: better idea than to keep the constitution? But they say, no, no, no, 750 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 7: we must, we must rely on feelings. What about the 751 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 7: poor this? What about the poor that? Well, that's true, 752 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 7: but the Jewish law says do justice love mercy in 753 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 7: that order. It's not the other way around. 754 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 10: David Hanger. For one second, David Mammont joins us, the 755 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 10: book is disenlightenment. It is a must read. And to 756 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 10: make sure as mony as they were impossibly get it 757 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 10: as possible, I want to take a short commercial break. 758 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 10: We're in return with David Mammott. In a moment, let's 759 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 10: what the word of the hot kom we will buy 760 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 10: the lot? 761 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 8: God, we really let me take down. 762 00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: There. 763 00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 10: He's your host. 764 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 8: Stephen came in. 765 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 10: David, you talked to Bill Maher on his podcast about 766 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 10: you had been on television or President Trump had seen you, 767 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 10: and then he called you the next day or called 768 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 10: you shortly thereafter and said I wanted to make sure 769 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 10: you understood about the stole election of twenty twenty. How 770 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 10: did that conversation go? 771 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 4: It was great, David. 772 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 7: I talked to them several times when we were both 773 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 7: in the in the entertainment business. I hadn't talked them. 774 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 7: Said my god, I said, mister president, thank you for everything. 775 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 7: Blah blah blah. No he said, okay, okay, okay. But 776 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 7: he says, well, you know the election was though. I said, yes, sir, 777 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 7: mister president, right, you're absolutely correct. I backed off. This 778 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 7: is a big mistake. A lot of people make it today. 779 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 7: They're called liberals. Right, Well, why why get him? Why 780 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 7: get into trouble? But he said, well, the counting of 781 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 7: the ballots, obviously, and the fake ballots and and the 782 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 7: mail in ballots and the lack of voter ID and 783 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 7: Luckerberg getting strong armed and the Russia collusion hoax and 784 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 7: the blah blah. 785 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 4: But he went down. He was great. I thought, yeah, okay, 786 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 4: and I'm with you. 787 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 10: He's got it. Your first director effort was House and Games, 788 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 10: which is an American classic. You've just finished the film 789 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 10: Henry Johnson. Can you tell us about it? Yeah? 790 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, I did a movie a shil about an evangelical 791 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 7: I called Henry Johnson. You can cat it at Henry 792 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 7: johnsonmovie dot com. And it's a play about a guy 793 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 7: who's so involved in doing good that he destroys everyone 794 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 7: he touches. And he goes from being a well foughtled 795 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 7: executive and some outfit to being tried for embezzlement, to 796 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 7: go into jail and eventually getting involved in a jail 797 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 7: break and ends up as a murderer and then the 798 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 7: fun begins. So we had a great time doing that, 799 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 7: and I'm about to start doing another movie in the fall. 800 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 7: So I went back after about ten years previous a 801 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 7: movie at the HBO was Phil Spector with al Pacino. 802 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 7: So I'm not going to go back after Henry Johnson 803 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 7: and shoot another brand new movie in the phone. 804 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 10: So you're getting back into You're getting back into both 805 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 10: writing and directing. 806 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. 807 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 10: How does someone how did you hit such a home 808 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 10: run with House of Games? I mean, normally someone's first 809 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 10: director is tough. That film is an absolute class. Of course, 810 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 10: the cast, you absolutely had a loaded cast. But tell 811 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 10: me about that. 812 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 7: Well, Peter Yates, the great director, Peter Yates, who directed, 813 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 7: among other things, A Bullet and Robbery and the Friends 814 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 7: of It. He coiled Britt but it's a terrific Americans director. 815 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 7: He was going to direct it, but he fell out 816 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 7: at the last minute. So I had this whole movie 817 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 7: ready to go, and he said, well, why did you 818 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 7: direct it? So I said, well, okay, I said, I've 819 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 7: did a lot of directing in the theater, and I've 820 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 7: done a lot of watched him twenty thousand movies. I 821 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 7: got to sit out and plan the thing out to 822 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 7: the last syllable of recorded time, because other than that, 823 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 7: I have no experienced movie directing to fall back on. 824 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 7: So I was saying, it's like when you fly an airplane, 825 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 7: when you do your first solo, when you get your Yeah, 826 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 7: when you do your first solo, the first time you're 827 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 7: alone in an airplane, they say, okay, do three landings, 828 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 7: and everybody says they're going to be the best landings of. 829 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 4: Your life because you got right, all you got, All you. 830 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 7: Have is precepts and technique, and you say to yourself, 831 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 7: you take off, you're doing your solo. The first thing 832 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 7: you say, this is great. And the second thing he says, Lord, 833 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 7: have mercy. There's nobody in this stupid. 834 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 4: Plane but me. 835 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 10: Henry Johnson. Was that a play first or is this 836 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 10: an original play? 837 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 838 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 10: She did then decided to direct. 839 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,959 Speaker 7: Now, I wrote it as a play for Shilah Boff 840 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 7: and we did it. My friend margin Lewis Ryan directed 841 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 7: Little ADC Theater in Los Angeles, and then we finished 842 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 7: our run and the guy said, well, let's do it 843 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 7: as a movie. 844 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 4: So we did. At the time of my life doing it. 845 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 10: Well, tell me about how did you get this idea? 846 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 10: Some of that's always doing good? All of a sudden, 847 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 10: everything he touches turns awful, or every every he hurts 848 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 10: people because everything he wants to do and everything he 849 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 10: does is good. 850 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 7: Well, it has it has to do with abortion. And 851 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 7: I said that they should advertise the film by saying 852 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 7: it's not about abortion, because that's a pretty good advertising line. 853 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 7: But I met a guy and I was talking to 854 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 7: he's a friend of a friend and and they said, 855 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 7: come over for dinner with me and my wife this weekend. 856 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 7: He said, I can't. I'm going up to the hatchippie 857 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 7: a prison. I said, oh, why are you going to have? 858 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 4: What's up? He said, I'm going to go see a 859 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 4: friend of mine. He's not really a. 860 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 7: Friendice an acquaintance. He's up to doing six years for 861 00:45:54,239 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 7: rape and and manslaughter. I said, oh, tell me the story. 862 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 7: He said, Well, there's this guy. I knew him from college. 863 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 7: He's a friend of a friend, and he has this 864 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 7: affair with this young woman and she gets pregnant and 865 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 7: he says, I want you to abort the child, and 866 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 7: she says I don't want to, and he says, well, 867 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 7: i'll give you money to the aboart the child. She 868 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 7: says that really rather not. So they spent one last 869 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 7: night together. They have a wild fling and while they're 870 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 7: having sex, he introduces an aborder fashion into her body 871 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 7: and kills the child. So he gets tried and he 872 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 7: goes to jail for six years, and so this friend 873 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 7: of a friend is going to Hatchepet to visit him. 874 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 7: I said, well, you're going to visit this guy, and 875 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 7: my friend says, well, you know, I think he's paying 876 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 7: his debt to society. I said, I don't think he's 877 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 7: paying his debt to society. I think he's being punished. 878 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 7: How can he He doesn't have a debt to society. 879 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 7: He has an undischargeable debt to that woman and her child. 880 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 7: Now he says, no, no, you're you're absolutely wrong. My 881 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 7: friend says he deserves compassion, and when he gets out, 882 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 7: I'm going to see that he gets a job. So 883 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 7: I started thinking about thinking that's crazy, that's absolutely nuts. 884 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 7: And then now we find out that all the people 885 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 7: on death rowe were probably pardoned by some staffer in 886 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 7: some second level staffer in the White House. 887 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 4: So if. 888 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 7: We don't have a criminal system, everything always evolves to 889 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 7: quote compassion, We're in a lot of trouble. 890 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 2: You know. 891 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:38,720 Speaker 7: Another Jewish thing is is is compassion to the evil 892 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 7: is a tyranny to the good. So that's what this 893 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 7: movie is about. And I'm really happy with Inga's a 894 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 7: really good film. 895 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 10: Henry Johnson back. We're going to push it more in 896 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 10: the in the second hour of film, thank You show 897 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 10: commercial bur data Man that's going to stick around with us. 898 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 4: Thank you you. 899 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 10: With the score from The Right Stuff, a classic movie 900 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 10: full of coffin off of a masterpiece by Thomas Wolf, 901 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 10: The Right Stuff. We'll be back in the warm in 902 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 10: just a moment.