WEBVTT - Zara Larsson 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:03.360 Hello everyone, and welcome to the inside the studio on 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.240 iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan run Tug, but enough 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:18.680 about me today we're talking to a bona fide pop queen, 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.520 or a pop prodigy to be more precise. She's been 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.040 at this since the rest of her peers were in 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.360 grade school. She was ten when she want a TV 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.479 talent contest in her native Sweden. She released her first 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.720 international album, So Good, which set the European charts on 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.000 fire with her electrifying electro dance floor fillers like Never 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.440 Forget You in Lush Life. Over the last year, she's 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.360 dropped bangers like love Me, Land Wow and her latest 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.360 Talk About Love, which features Young Thug. Now she's gearing 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.640 up to release an all new full length poster Girl, 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.000 which she promises will be to use her words like 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.480 abba on acid. If you're missing the club and looking 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.640 to throw a little living room dance party, it sounds 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:55.760 like this is the album for you. I'm so happy 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.160 to welcome the poster girl for Swedish pop perfection, Zara Larson. 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.120 Thank you for having me. I'm very excited. Well, first up, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.720 you have a new song talk about Love with Young Thug. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.319 I Love it so much because it's about that really 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.560 exciting time in a relationship when you're still trying to 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.600 figure out what you are, like if this is for real, 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.640 if this is going places? Tell me about that? Yeah, 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.240 I mean I think we've all been there. Scary you know, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:23.120 where you start seeing someone and you're like, do I 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.040 want to move forward with this? Do I want this 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.240 to be a serious thing? Or am I just kind 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:32.800 of having fun with it? I am very bad personally 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.640 at like casual dating. I kind of instantly just have 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.440 to like ask myself what do I want from this? 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.319 And if it's not someone that I really want to 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:47.560 be with, then yeah, by like what's the reason, why? 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.920 What are you gonna give me? You know what I'm saying. So, Um, 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:55.320 it's definitely about that sweet spot before you like start 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.760 asking yourself all these questions. Just the first rush of 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.360 love and affection. Yeah, that's so Yeah, then it's scary. 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:02.800 Then it's like trying to figure out what it is 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.600 that's the scary part. Yeah, I agree. But yeah again 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.840 I am like I see a person once and I'm like, yeah, 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:16.239 we're getting married, right, and they're like so really, Um, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.720 It's funny when you know talk about songwriting and when 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.520 it comes to the point where it's like, well, how 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.680 much of it is real? Or like how much can 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.120 I relate to it? And I think for me personally, 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.239 I've always thought that as long as you can relate 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:35.200 to the emotions and the feelings of a song, then 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.640 you can talk about basically anything. It doesn't have to 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:40.800 be like for me at least, it doesn't have to 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:45.240 be a page ripped out of my diary for me 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.480 to relate to it on a on an emotional level, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:50.920 because now when I when I listened to the song, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.320 it's like, I personally want to talk about love all 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.320 the time. Like I'm probably the person who was like, 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.640 should we talk about this? You know? But I also 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.480 understand and I have been in a situation where it's like, oh, 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.519 I know, But that's the thing is usually when you 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.240 don't want to talk about love, it's because really it's 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:16.920 not that serious, you know, I don't really want it. Yeah, sorry, 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.120 it's just not Yeah, but it's a super fun song. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.840 I love the youngs Dogs on it. I think he 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:30.200 did an amazing job. He really brought something to it, 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.320 not that anything was really missing, but he really he 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.200 added something that I felt that I didn't know I 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.720 was missing until I heard his verse. I always wanted 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.000 to have someone like I since since the first time 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.000 I heard it, I knew that this was a duet 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:46.760 for me. I mean, I think he's such a cool 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.920 artist because I really admire the way he challenges like 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.160 the traditional ideas of masculinity and rap with his style 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.920 choices like wearing a dressing this album cover. What was 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.400 he like to work with? Like how did he enter 0:03:56.440 --> 0:04:01.240 the mix? So because of this weird pandemic and like 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.320 the weird not weird pandemic, but definitely like a weird 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.560 year two thousand and twenty. Uh and what's even what's 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:16.960 even the word to describe the pandemic? Yeah, we couldn't 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:21.039 see each other in the studio, so I I think 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:26.440 he recorded it in Atlanta. Um I recorded it actually 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.680 like a year ago, maybe more in l A. And 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.760 you know, we we we talked. We've been texting each 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.159 other like d m NG and stuff, and like he 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.840 seems very sweet. I was super happy he wanted to 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.080 join me on the song, but we haven't actually like 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.559 spend time in the studio. I was watching the live link, 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.479 you know, seeing him record his version or the his 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.720 part of the video, but same thing. I was like, hey, 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.280 you know on a screen and we didn't. We haven't 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.720 met each other, and that's so strange. I mean it's 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.400 it's not really only because the pandemic, though. I think 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.200 this is how music is made for a lot of people. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.880 Like I remember doing the the euro Cup song. It's 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.120 like in Europe. Uh, we had this huge it's like 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.839 the super Bowl, you know, but it's soccer, and me 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.920 and David Ghetta did a song and we didn't meet 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.200 each other up until the actual opening ceremony and then 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.880 I was like, hi, you know, it was weird, but 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.320 we had this huge song together, but we just never 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.200 like spoke before that moment. But it's fun. You know 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.480 that it works out that way. Just send the files 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.760 over the cloud or whatever and then you get it 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.120 back and then you like send your stuff and yeah, 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.600 it works technology. That's so funn It's like the band 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.720 the Postal Service, Like that's how they got their name. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.920 It's like they just sent their stuff back and forth. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:49.960 I mean, it's it's so interesting. I mean, just think 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.560 about the way that that you're working methods of evolved 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.320 and your songwritings evolved. I mean talk about Love is 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.240 single off your new LP, Poster Girl, which is due 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.679 out in the spring. How your songwriting evolved since since 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.440 So Good? You would have been what nineteen or twenty 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.920 when when that album came out. How is your writing progressive? Then? Well, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.240 I first have to say I actually wasn't a part 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:15.400 of creating Talk About Love, but I have worked with 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.520 Amy Allen and Mike Sabbath was like the two big 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.240 people on that record, and I have worked with both 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.400 of them before and I think they are amazing. And 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.279 that's usually what it's like for me. If I don't 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.200 write the song, it usually ends up being a song 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.599 from writers that I love to work with or that 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.040 I respect a lot, and they're like, they know what 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.160 I want, and it kind of all makes sense even 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.919 though I wasn't like in the room. But when it 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.200 comes to my writing, I think the biggest thing for 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:49.400 me is the confidence, really because it's so hard. I 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.920 think that I think that really comes back to all 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.479 the creative stuff where you have to share your art. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.680 It doesn't matter if it's a painting or if it's 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.279 a dance, or if it's a song or just like 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.719 a text, you know, you're writing a book. When you 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.560 share a piece of yourself, or you share your thoughts 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:12.880 on something that's very you're very vulnerable. And sometimes I've 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:14.960 been in the studio, especially when I was younger and 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.720 a bit more insecure, and you know, I had this 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.760 this line in my head for the next uh sentence 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.480 of the verse or whatever, and I was just thinking 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:25.920 about it, and I was like, oh, no, it's stupid. 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.160 Oh stupid. Oh no, I can't say it out loud. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.040 I can't say it that loud. And then someone would 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.040 say like the exact same thing, you know, like a 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.560 minute after, and everybody's like, that's great. I would be like, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.960 just say it, Like, what's wrong with me? Why can't 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:43.040 I just express my feelings? Because what's the worst thing 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.280 that's going to happen? People saying like, yeah, yeah, that's good, 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.640 but I think we can find something better that's like 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.320 literally the worst thing that could happen, which sometimes could 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.360 you know, feel like, oh gosh, I'm a failure, which 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.640 isn't the I don't think you know, that's not the truth. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.440 But now I can be a little bit more confident 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.160 and just share my thoughts in a different way. And 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.400 I think that have just been um, giving people a 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:15.400 more open and honest version of me, you know, and 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:20.080 a bit more personal because sometimes, yeah, with creative things, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.920 it's like it's not only you write a song. Sometimes 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.880 it turns into a therapy session and you start talking 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.560 about like specially love, like relationships and what you've been 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.720 through and like you realize stuff now that you know, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.920 like gosh, I can't believe I went through that, like 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.120 what he did to me, or like how how was 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.200 that reacting that way? Like all of these things you 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.720 really have to you don't have to, but usually it 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.840 ends up being brought up because it's it's like a 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.000 natural way of talking about things when you when you 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.920 share stuff about yourself. So, um, I guess I've just 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:58.280 been yeah again, just more comfortable and confident, and I 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.079 think that makes a huge difference. Said that, the sound 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.120 of this new album is and I love this so 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:07.240 much Abba on Acid, which is uh an album I 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.160 definitely need right now. Please elaborate on that, because that's 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.760 that's something I really need in my life right now. Yeah. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:16.320 I just I think I've always grown up with Abba 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:20.960 being in Swedish, you know, we had some huge pop makers, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:25.240 not only performers, but like writers and producers. But ABBA 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.160 has always been you know, They've always been around for 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.520 as long as I can remember, and they probably had 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.040 their biggest they were like huge before I was born. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:39.679 But it's just lately that I've realized, um, hello, excuse me. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:45.440 They make the best songs ever. Like they're timeless. They 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.200 are so good still to this day, they will be 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.560 good in a hundred years. And I just never really 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.960 appreciated them like fully up until recently, where I really 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:56.360 you know, sat down and I was like, I'm gonna 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:02.439 listen to Abba. Their melodies, the sounds, what everything. It's 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.520 blowing me away, and I just wanted to like be 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.400 a little bit inspired by that, especially the melodies they 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:12.800 use and like harmonies or how they build up to 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.439 a chorus and then just I don't know just everything 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.720 about it. But then I also wanted it to be 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:22.600 a little you know, probably with a twist. Yeah, I 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.120 guess you could say modern, but in a way again 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.120 like I still ever so timeless, but a bit more 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:32.480 me like a little trippy and and fun. Still I 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.000 want to ask you a question. It's gonna sound like 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.360 I'm kidding, but I'm actually kind of serious. Why are 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.560 people from Sweden's so good at pop music? I mean 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.160 there's you, there's Abba their Showback, There's Max Martin, there's 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.960 the Cardigans, there's a base, there's a I mean, there's 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.080 just so many Like what is it? Is something water? 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.600 I don't know. I think it's definitely like a legacy 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.920 at this point, you know. And yeah, I do think 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.560 it's been like a privilege for me to go to 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.840 la for example, right where it's just like the holy 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:08.000 mecca of songwriting and entertainment. And uh, a lot of 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.600 the people there are Swedish. And even if they're not 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.520 people are people respect me in a different way when 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.240 I say, hey, I'm Swedish and I like do pop music, 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.679 They're like, oh, you know, because we have this whole 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.560 culture of songwriting. I don't really know where it started, 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.880 you know. There's a whole bunch of theories about it. 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:30.800 One that I really like is that everybody has to 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:35.080 play music in school. It's like a subjects like pe 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:39.400 or math or English, Like everybody has to take at least, 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.000 you know, learn a few chords on the piano and 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.719 the guitar, not maybe write a whole song, but you know, 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:47.960 they have to try out a few instruments and they 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:52.760 have to try it basically. And also the fact that 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.840 we have a different support system than a lot of 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:00.400 different countries, so you could actually get fund it from 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.959 the government or um not a scholarship, but like you 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.040 don't want to give you money for things like arts 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.600 and stuff, Yeah, like a grant or something. Yeah, it's 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.080 very easy to get. And that means that people could 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.720 actually dare to dream about having a life in music 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.600 without being scared of you know, am I gonna like 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.040 be able to have food this month? Or am I 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.000 going to be able to like pay my rent and 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.040 stuff like that, and they could truly just go to 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.800 school for music or playing a band and like tour 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:34.560 and stuff. I don't know. I think it gives you 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.360 a little when you have a financial freedom, It gives 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.040 you a sense of security and then you can truly 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.559 focus on what you love and what you're passionate about. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.040 I've read that you've been uh since being because you're 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.760 in Sweden right now with your family during all of this, 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:05.040 that you've been uh learning more about home recording software 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.520 like logic and stuff like that. How how's that going. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:12.440 It's hard, so hard, and only because there's like a million, 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.440 probably more a million different things to do. You know, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.679 I always open a session. What I love to do, 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.199 I this is in like life generally, what I love 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.640 to do is I love to start things. I don't 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:29.040 really like to finish them. So I have so many 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.760 sessions that I'm like, yeah, this is a vibe, and 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.600 then I start something and then, you know, instead of 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.160 like finishing it. I'm very good at going into the library, 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.960 YadA YadA, finding a new sound. I'm like, uh no, no, no, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.880 we're starting, We're starting over. We're doing this because this 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.480 sounds really fun and for me, this whole pandemic, it's 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.760 been really fun to just play around with. UM. I've 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:57.240 also realized that recording myself isn't as hard as I 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.640 thought it would be. It's definitely hard to you know, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.319 I'm not a mixer. I can't make everything sound perfect, 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:09.160 but just to put down an idea, UM, it's powerful 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.959 because it means that I feel independent and I can 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:17.120 you know, I always write with other people usually, you know, 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.160 if I'm in a session. But if I could learn 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.520 this just to the point where I could put down 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.480 some ideas, uh, and then just send it over to 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.640 someone who could clean it up. Then I think that's great. 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.440 And also it's so fun to sit around and play with, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:36.080 like it makes me really happy. Would you consider yourself 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:40.120 a perfectionist? Oh my gosh, yes, And I think that, 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:46.880 Uh it's the worst because sometimes my willing, my my 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.800 will to want everything to be perfect. It kind of 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:54.360 stops me from doing things sometimes because I'm like, well, 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.640 you know, I'm also that type of person who I 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:02.240 want to be excellent at things, like immediately you know 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.680 the whole process of it, which is the beauty of it. 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.840 I don't like it, like I wanted to go at 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.120 it right now. And I think that's why singing has 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.400 been such a passion of mine too, because it's something 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:19.120 I do naturally, always been doing. You just open your 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.680 mouth and it comes out sounds. But when it comes 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:28.640 to like learning an instrument, learning how to produce, learning, um, 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.040 even to write songs, really you have to put down 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.760 and you have to put in the time for it. 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.400 And that's why I respect like specially producers, because all 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.760 of these produced they're just nerds, they're just people who 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.320 they really are like they're cool, but they're very nerd. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.560 I love nerds. When someone has a specific subject that 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.360 they're just so passionate about and they sit with it 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.840 and they perfected and they perfected and they perfect it, 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.480 and then you know, there's no ceiling to this. And 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.560 also things change age how we want things to sound 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.000 in music. Just you know, listen to the songs from 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.680 twenty years ago or even ten years ago, or like 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.240 what was popping on the Hot one hundred. It's different 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.000 from what it looks like now. So it's always evolving. 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:18.080 But yeah, being a perfectionist, I feel like some sometimes 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.880 just be a bit overwhelming, you know, because I want 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:26.040 everything to be perfect at once and that's literally impossible. 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.520 You mentioned singing that was something that's been with you 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.520 from a very early age. I mean you were on 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.120 the the Swedish equivalent of Sweden's Got Talent at what 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.640 nine ten years old. Was there a moment you knew 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.480 that that music was was your path in life? I 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:44.680 actually don't have that memory. Um, I've just always it's 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.680 been a part of my DNA for as long as 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:53.240 I can't remember, and I think I have always loved 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:57.480 my personality type is very much, you know, I love 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.920 to be the center of attention. I love to entertain. 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:05.440 I'm definitely like a people pleaser. Um, I want everybody 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.879 to have like a really good time. If they're not 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.680 having a good time, then I feel like everything reflects 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.960 back to me and like that I'm a bad person. 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:20.080 So that combined with having a good voice, it's like great. 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.320 You want to you want to please people, you want 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.480 to entertain people, and you can say sick. That's like 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.720 an artist. So I have just always had that dream 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.959 of mine. I don't know where it comes from. My 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.560 family is so not musical. My dad played in a 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.240 punk band when he was like fourteen fifteen, and that's 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:43.960 as close as we're getting to any like music musicality 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:48.040 in my family. Um, but me, my sister, we've always 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:53.200 just loved it. Yeah, it's it's it's really strange, but 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.720 it feels like it's almost destiny in a way. I 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:00.280 don't really know if I believe in that, but it 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:04.280 feels like I couldn't do anything else in life just 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.200 talking about, you know, bringing joy to people. The music 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.160 that you've released in I mean love me Land, Wow, 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.720 talk about love. It's been such a great escape from 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:18.160 just this really upsetting, unsettling time. What do you do 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.240 when when you want to escape? What's your favorite way 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.639 to just get away mentally? That's so funny you say 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:28.679 that because I have, Uh, that's what I've been doing. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.800 Like pop for me has been in this form of 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:36.320 escapism for me. So really, if I'm being honest, I 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:40.920 think of myself probably more as a performer than a writer. 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.919 So I really love to write, but I'm not the 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.520 girl who was sitting in her bed like writing songs. 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.760 I'm the girl who stands in front of the mirror 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.479 with like my high heels on, my hair done, and 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.760 I'm like, are you ready? You know, like let me, 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.000 He's saying, and I going off in the mirror. Like 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:06.560 I love to perform so growing up and even now 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:11.000 every day I stand in my living room and I dance, 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.640 and I pretend that I'm on stage performing in front 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:18.159 of people. And that's how I kind of escape reality, 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.720 the boredom of it sometimes, the you know when it's gray, 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.400 when things So when I'm anxious or even just expressing 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.680 my happiness, that's just been a go to for as 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.119 as long as I can't remember. That's really like my 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:36.520 true essence just like, Okay, it's performing time and I 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.800 just get into it. Yeah. I wasn't going to bring 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.640 this up, but I have to. I love, love, love 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.720 your very ship of my heart will go on from 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:46.920 when you were like like ten years old. I think 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.560 I'm a huge Titanic nerd. Like I've been obsessed with 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.080 with that since I was a kid, So like, I 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:58.560 love your version of that where you really yes, actually no, 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.320 I don't think I was are into movies as a kid, 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.720 But now I don't know if it's because I watched 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:10.240 so many movies and series this year, particularly or last year, 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.560 because you know, you didn't have that much to do. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:19.160 I started to really get into like directing, just being 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.800 like very you know, okay, I wouldn't go that far, 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.920 I would be interested in I would be interested in directing, 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.320 or like I would be aware of in movies where 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.920 it's like oh, that that's a really really great shot, 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.400 or like I love how they were trucking her movement 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.879 and then cut to that scene and like oh I 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.720 see the plots in a different way, and like just 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:42.280 the storytelling of someone on a screen. I am very 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:47.920 into that, and I think specifically in these times, everything's 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.840 very very visual too. You know, you just don't want 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.359 a great song, you also want like a great video 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.160 with it, and you want the pictures and you want 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.439 the gifts and you want the TikTok's and you know 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.480 we're looking at our screens a lot. And with that, 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.600 you I think most people want like some form of 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.919 content with it. So I think it's a you know, 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:11.920 if if I would get into that, I would love 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.800 you know. I co directed my music video for Talk 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:18.320 about Love, and probably going to co direct the next 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.800 video and then maybe eventually, you know, when I learned 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:24.320 all about the lenses and YadA YadA, I will start 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:28.240 doing that too. Um. And that gives me joy, like 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:31.000 for real, um, just being a part of I feel 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.600 like if I'm not writing the song in itself, which 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:36.440 I preferably would love to do, you know, but I'm 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:42.040 also I've never been proud two say like I didn't 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:43.919 write this song, so I won't take it, or like, 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:45.920 well I can take it if I can rewrite it, 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:49.200 and stuffing like that. I think, if it's a great song, um, 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.520 then it's a great song. And I you know, some 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.760 of my biggest songs in my career have been like 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.040 lush life and symphony that I didn't write, but then 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.680 also equally the songs that I did right, like never 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:04.200 Forget You and It's just to me. I just want 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.760 really good songs, and I would I love to be 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:08.960 a part of making them, but if I can be 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.480 a part of creating them, I would love to be 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.800 a part of everything else around it. So I feel 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:17.199 like it's mine. This is like my vision for it, 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.000 my my sound. Sonically I sing it, you know, of 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:25.600 course how I want the songs to be sung. But also, uh, 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.359 it just feels better when you know in your heart 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:32.520 that you made this into what it is. Yeah, I mean, 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.119 in a lot of ways, I can imagine making an 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.199 album is a very similar to directing a movie and 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.280 you're creating a mood. You're you're the peaks and valleys, 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:41.920