1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy Demonse Divisional Round weekend. We're 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: gonna start with the first game of the weekend. Bill's Broncos. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Let's get to. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: It, big stuff. So the Broncos ended the Bills season 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: on Saturday, got Sean McDermott fired, so they obviously lost 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: this game. Josh Allen had four turnovers. Do you think 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: that the team built around him kind of failed Josh Allen? 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: Or do you think that Josh Allen failed the Bills 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: with his turnovers? 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: Defending League MVP had four turnovers in a playoff game, 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: including one of the most cartoonish fumbles in the history 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: of the league. That happened. Okay, before I even get 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: in that that is you don't have to be a 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: die hard sports fan to understand. Oh, that's that's probably 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: why they lost. Yeah, before I get to that piece 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: of it, let me say this on the front end, sincerely, 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: And I know Broncos fans aren't gonna want to hear 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: this from me, and they might say I'm full of shit. Whatever, 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: I can't remember a more gutting postseason injury than the 22 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: one the Broncos suffered to have won the game. Be 23 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: celebrating that you're going to the conference championship game at home, 24 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: have beaten Josh Allen and have watched bow Nicks play 25 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: one of in my opinion, best games of his life, 26 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: and two separate times come through for you in just 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: huge spots before the half to put the Bills on tilt, 28 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: which it's ten to ten with thirty seconds left, and 29 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: Josh Allen in the first half, Josh Allen has zero turnovers, 30 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: the Bills are feeling fine. Bo Nix hits that deep 31 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: bomb to the front corner of the end zone to 32 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: put the Bills on their back foot, and then late 33 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: in the game, down four drives them down, puts them 34 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: ahead with a minute left. Like whatever skepticism I've had 35 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: about your quarterback, he was nails on Saturday afternoon. However 36 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: annoying I have found Sean Payton to be. He called 37 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: a hell of a game, and you're celebrating, You're feeling great, 38 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: you really think you can win the Super Bowl, and 39 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: then you find out on a somewhat nothing play that 40 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: no one even noticed your quarterback breaks his an broke 41 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: his ankle and kneeds surgery. It's just a stomach punch 42 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: of all stomach punches. And I do I legitimate again, 43 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Broncos fans, You're allowed to hate me. It's fine. I 44 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: legitimately feel sick for you, guys, and I don't it obviously. 45 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: It's in the same bucket as Haliburton Game seven and 46 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: the one you kind of because he had been dealing 47 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: with an injury, that kind of specter loomed. This was 48 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: just so out of nowhere. I don't even know now. 49 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: On the bright side, it shouldn't impact your next season 50 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: at all, but this is who knows what next season's 51 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: gonna be. So Broncos, I feel sick for you, sincerely, 52 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: and you guys have proven me wrong all you and 53 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: I just and bow. If Bo's gonna have a come 54 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: back down to Earth moment, it ain't gonna be this season. 55 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: Because he ended last season, or he ended that, he 56 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: ended this season, pardon me. With probably the best game 57 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: of his career, all things considered, and in my favorite 58 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: football weekend of the year with Drake May and Matt 59 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: Stafford and Josh Allen and c. J. Stroud and Sam Darnold, 60 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: all those guys playing bo Knicks played the best game. 61 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: It just is what it is. And I wonder why 62 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: that version of commentary I just did about bow Knicks 63 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: so many folks have trouble doing in the other direction. 64 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: It's one thing to say this guy, this team that 65 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: I have always been down on, or I have always doubted, 66 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: he with his play proved me wrong. It does feel 67 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: like people are have an easier time doing that leap 68 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: than the opposite one, which is this guy, this team, 69 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: this player that I have elevated beyond any realistic place 70 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: that is justifiable. His play proved me wrong. And instead 71 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: of being able to do that after Josh Allen's four 72 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: turnover playoff game, folks are just going out making a 73 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: fools of themselves. So I understand the Bills would not 74 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: have been there without Josh Allen. No shit. That is 75 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: that If the standard is standard for criticism is if 76 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: a guy is the biggest reason a team got to 77 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: a point, then criticizing his play it at that point 78 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: is unfair. Then I guess we can never criticize any 79 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: NBA superstar for a playoff performance ever, because every single 80 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: NBA superstar is the reason their team gets to the postseason. 81 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: And so then I guess if you're James harden It, 82 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: you're just an asshole if you're like he cost his 83 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: team because the thirty five IQ responses, well, would they 84 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: have been there without him? No, they wouldn't have. So 85 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: I guess it's all it's all reputational free rolls. It 86 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: just doesn't And here this is. It is not demons, 87 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: it's not complicated. The analysis of Bill's Broncos, it's really. 88 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: Not Josh Allen. 89 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, go ahead, he pooped the bed. 90 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely. He messed up pretty badly. I mean 91 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: it's uh, it's four turnovers. That's that's a lot. I 92 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: was surprised when Germany got fired, to be honest, I mean, 93 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: I know that is go ahead. No, I just know 94 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: that this is their year, and you know, if they 95 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: lost to the Broncos or if they just lost in 96 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: this playoff front, it was gonna look bad. But in 97 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: that instant and where it was four turnovers, I just 98 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: felt like they might have let it ride a little bit. 99 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: Uh. But yeah, I thought so too. Maybe and we'll 100 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: get to the McDermott piece. But guys, I'm listening and 101 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: I DMed Bill about this Bill Barnwell. I'm listening to 102 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: Barnwell this morning. Who you guys know, I have as 103 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: much respect for his football opinions as anyone in the world. 104 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: And I'm stunned because he's talking about how he thought 105 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: McDermott screwed up by not really impressing upon Josh Allen 106 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: when they got the ball back with twenty seconds left, 107 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: that he can't do something dumb. And Bill said, and 108 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: I quote, you have to be aware you have a 109 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: lunaticket quarterback and it the agency removal from the soon 110 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: to be thirty year old defending league MVP, like, well, 111 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: we can't try to go get points here at the 112 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: end of the half because the guy might run for 113 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: no reason. By the way, the scramble was, even if 114 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: he hadn't been sacked, the scramble was a dumb play. 115 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, even if he hadn't fumbled, because they had 116 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: no timeouts, like you weren't gonna it was just a 117 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: dead play the moment you don't throw the ball, but 118 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: that guy might just hold the ball like a loaf 119 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: of bread and lose the football. You just gotta know that. Okay. 120 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: That so there's four turnovers right. The first one is 121 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: right before the end of the half. It's the worst 122 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: fumble of the NFL season. The second one is right 123 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: after the half. It's a blind side hit him. You'd 124 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: like him to hold onto the ball, but a lot 125 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks have problems holding onto the ball this weekend. 126 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: You want to give him a slight pass on that, 127 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: so be it. The third one is right after bo 128 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: Nicks makes his only mistake. You go for a kill 129 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: shot you don't need to, in a decent down and 130 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: distance on the fringe of field goal range, and you 131 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: throw a bad pass. The fourth one is the allegedly 132 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: controversial interception. More on that in a minute. And in 133 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: between the third and the fourth, you had two passes. 134 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: One was easy, one was hard that would have won 135 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: the game. You had Khalil Shakir on a wide receiver 136 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: screen that I know he would have scored a touchdown 137 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: on because he did score a touchdown on it. But 138 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: then we saw you one hopped it to him. And 139 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: then what would have been a tough pass to Dawson 140 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: Knox in the waning seconds that you missed. Now is 141 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: are is that asking a lot of the quarterback? Not 142 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: really but is it certainly holding him to a highest 143 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: standard shore. But the reason this is fair, and the 144 00:11:53,080 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: reason some of the Josh Allen Media com and terry 145 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: is so maddening, is because folks can't help themselves. But 146 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: one up the hyperbole. It's no longer enough to say 147 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: I think he might, even though he's never been to 148 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. And even though three hundred and sixty 149 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: days ago he for the fourth time in the playoffs 150 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: shared a field with Patrick Mahomes and for the fourth 151 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: time was outplayed and lost. Even though those that happened, 152 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: I think he might be the best quarterback in the league. 153 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: That's not enough. And even though two of his contemporaries 154 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: have more league MVPs than him during his during this 155 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: run in Patrick and Lamar, and those same two guys 156 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: have more First Team All Pros than him in this run. 157 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: And another one of his contemporaries has been to a 158 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and Burrow forget Patrick going to five and 159 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: winning three, even though all those things are the case, 160 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: calling him hands down the best player in the league, 161 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: that's not enough either. And in the last cup few months, 162 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: and this is not a straw man, and this is 163 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: from not only people I like but one of them. 164 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: My dearest friend and boss at the volume Coward call 165 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: him the most talented player ever, ever, the most talented 166 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: quarterback ever. Greeny yesterday, yesterday, after the four turnover game, 167 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: said does as a matter of fact, no one has 168 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: ever played the position better. If that is the way 169 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: he has discussed, then you can't also do a blame 170 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: pie blaming McDermott and Brandon Bean and Brandon Cooks and 171 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: the poor left guard who didn't fall on Allan's fumble 172 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: when we're discussing them losing a playoff game when he 173 00:14:54,560 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: had four turnovers. He's the only guy in the league 174 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: that when they win, he's an all time legend, and 175 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: when they lose, even when it's because of his mistakes, 176 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: it's got to be someone else's fault. You are not. 177 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: It is not a tenable sports opinionist position to continually 178 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: call a player better than historic legends and contemporaries that 179 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: have more pelps on the wall by a wide margin, 180 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: and then give him a full on pass for a playoff. 181 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: Meltdown, and he's on the record saying that he feels 182 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: like it. Let his team do well. 183 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Josh Allen is more is more 184 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: of a realist about what happened than his media sickophants. 185 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen was in tears. You know why because he 186 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: is the best player on the team. Obviously, he is 187 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: their leader, he is the reason they're there, and he 188 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: blew it. That's okay, It's sports, And it wouldn't be 189 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: that big of a deal if I didn't have to 190 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: listen to people the day after it happens still say 191 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: he's the no one's ever played the position better? Are 192 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me? Like, take my homes out of it. 193 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I 194 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: think Tom Brady played the position better than Josh Allen. Yeah, 195 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: like I and so I there is an element of demons. 196 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Last week there was a little medium or little mini 197 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: media and we talked about it, firestorm about Lynn Jones, 198 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: the older Black Lady. Oh yeah, he said to Liam Cohen, like, 199 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: hold your head up high. Ye all these folks were like, 200 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: once you turn, once you become media, you don't root anymore. 201 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: You don't do that, And then those same people are 202 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: sending tweets. My heart breaks for Josh Allen. He does 203 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: why what like I don't mean why like that. Like 204 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: I I understand feeling empathy for a person that's a 205 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: great player that you feel like can't get over the hump. 206 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: I understand that, but the he doesn't. You don't think CJ. 207 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: Stroud feels like shit this weekend. 208 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: I you don't think the guy gets stopped so many times. 209 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: I also think people just get caught up with the 210 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: physicals of Josh Allen. He's perfect, Like he's got the 211 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 2: big arm, he could run around. He's a big dude. 212 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, he obviously is. He is. 213 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: Part of being an all time great is being able 214 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: to harness your greatest attributes while minimizing the risk associated 215 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: with them. And I have watched the he has been incredible. 216 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: That last year's playoff game against Kansas City he fumbled 217 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: three times. They recovered all of them. The year before 218 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: the playoff game against Kansas City, on what they thought 219 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: was gonna be the game time drive, he fumbled running 220 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: the around like he did at midfield near halftime. It 221 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: should have been scooped and scored by the Chiefs. One 222 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: of his teammates fell on it after the Chiefs kicked it. 223 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: He's loose with the ball and when he switches his 224 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: style up to not be loose with the ball, his 225 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: gaudy stats go down. That's when his passing yardage numbers 226 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: go down. And all he has not yet shown the 227 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: ability to have the type of season where you get 228 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: the crazy gaudy numbers without the crazy turnovers, which is fine. 229 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: I still think he's the second best quarterback in the league. 230 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: But you gotta call a spade a spade on a 231 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: four turnover playoff game, and I he was fine with it, 232 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: he knew he blew it. And then the well, get 233 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: to the follow ups because there's a lot about the 234 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: calls and the whining and all of it, so you 235 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: can go to all this. 236 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, So after the game, Josh Allen, Dion Dawkins, and 237 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: Randon Cooks were all very emotional in their interviews and crying. 238 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: How do you feel about players crying after a round 239 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: two exits? 240 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: So I think a couple things. Listen, I I it 241 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: does now seem like the Bills were gonna fire McDermott 242 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: if they didn't make the Super Bowl. If they hadn't 243 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: made that decision after seeing how emotional the players were, 244 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: I would have felt like, sorry, Sean, even if it's 245 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: not your fault. We have to we can't just run 246 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: this back. This is a this is a scarred team. 247 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: And the demonse, why do you think the Bills were 248 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: so devastated about this loss in this postseason because I 249 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: have a theory. 250 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: Well, this is their this was their this was their 251 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: shot this year. Like I just feel like this was 252 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: because nobody else's I mean, you're you got Drake May, 253 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: you got all the I mean, you just got Matt Stafford, Mahomes, Burrow, 254 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: uh At, you know, Lamar, They're all gone. 255 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: It's so I think they clearly viewed it as the 256 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: Chiefs aren't there and this is our moment. And that's 257 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: and by the way, certainly the media after they reacted 258 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: to the McDermott firing kept bringing up that this was 259 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: the moment where the Chiefs aren't there and this is 260 00:21:54,400 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: the other thing, if I'm being transparent here, that frustrates 261 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: me about the just blowing past like Josh past Patrick 262 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: in this quarterback hierarchy, folks simultaneously have this opinion, Josh 263 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: is clearly the best quarterback in the league. He's better 264 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: than Mahomes. He's been better than Mahomes the last few years. 265 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: They believe that while simultaneously believing this was such a 266 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: massive missed opportunity for the Buffalo Bills because they finally 267 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: would have been able to get to a super Bowl 268 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: without actually having to beat Patrick Mahomes like that it was. 269 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: I think they did view it as the path is clear, 270 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: and I don't think they viewed it as the path 271 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: was clear because Lamar wasn't there, because Josh has played 272 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: Lamar twice in the playoffs and beat them both. I 273 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: don't think they viewed as the path that's clear because 274 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: Burrow's not there, because Burrow only been there the last 275 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: three years. I think they viewed as the path that's 276 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: clear because Patrick's not there and they didn't get there. 277 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: The crying was interesting to me because I just don't 278 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: remember the last Like I felt like Cam cried after 279 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: the super Bowl and people killed him for it. This 280 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: is a divisional round game. But they really thought they 281 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: were right there, all right. 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So we're running of games to talk about. 324 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: So it's rumors slash trade talk time of the year. 325 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: People are throwing around trades and rumors. A trade or 326 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: rumor that you co signed was Lamar for Max Crosby 327 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: and the number one pick, which are probably Bendoza to 328 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: the Raiders. 329 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah so no, well you might just become a Raider fan. 330 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: You can just you can just follow Lamar. 331 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, Lamar and genty would be pretty cool. 332 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. I I don't I'm not saying this, 333 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: and I didn't just create this out of thin air. 334 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: The ESPN did like bold predictions for the offseason, and 335 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: one of them was could Tom Brady and the Raiders 336 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: make a play for Lamar Jackson. I don't know that. 337 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: I think the Raiders, after watching them and believing in 338 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: them this year, are you know, close enough to make 339 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: a move even for Lamar Jackson. However, I am more 340 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: interested in this from the raven side of it, And 341 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't know who the next Ravens head coach is 342 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: going to be, but whomever it is, I think in 343 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: the universe where this was available, you get the equivalent 344 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: I believe of demand's a five first round picks, the 345 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: equivalent of five first round picks for Lamar, and by 346 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: that I mean Max Crosby on the open market is 347 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: worth two firsts. And we know the number one pick, 348 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: given the Bryce Young trade, it's equivalent, the equivalent that 349 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: it's worth is a little more than three, you know, 350 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: middle average first round picks. I know number one pick 351 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: is literally one first round pick, but it's in order 352 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: to get it you would have to trade like the 353 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: fifteenth pick and to future first to move up them. 354 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: So this is the equivalent of you know, call it 355 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: five first round picks. And you would not be like, 356 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: all right, well now we're in the quarterback wilderness, because 357 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: now you might end up being if Mendoza is not 358 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: the guy. But you're not trading for the number one 359 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: overall pick blind saying, you know, or trading for a 360 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: future year pick when you don't know who the players 361 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: are that you'd be taking. You would know you are 362 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: taking Fernando Mendoza. And the point that the reason I 363 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: find this interesting from the Ravens perspective, this theoretical fake 364 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: trade that ESPN alluded to it. And then I put 365 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: a fine tooth comb on or a finer point on, 366 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: I should say, I do think that it is a 367 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: legitimate discussion. What is a better path to winning a 368 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: championship young quarterback on a rookie scale plus Max Crosby 369 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: plus the extra forty some million dollars of cap space 370 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: to build out the rest of the roster, or Lamar Jackson, 371 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: who will enter next year undoubtedly as the highest paid 372 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: player in the league on a sixty plus million dollar 373 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: a year contract. And it is worth noting the two 374 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowls the Ravens have won, they won with cheap 375 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and stacked rosters. The Denver Broncos are attempting this 376 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: right now. I know bo Nix is now out, but 377 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 1: young quarterback, all this talent around him. The Patriots, I, 378 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, don't think they actually have all that much 379 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: talent around them. I think what the job May and 380 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: vrabil have done's unbelievable. But they spent money this offseason. 381 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: They have more money to spend this next offseason. You know, 382 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm not breaking news that good young, cheap quarterback who 383 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: gives you franchise quarterback play on rookie quarterback salary at 384 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of pieces has been a very successful model. 385 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: And then when you add to it what I think 386 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: could be some squeamishness for the Ravens of a brand 387 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: new contract for Lamar after at the very least we 388 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: can call it an injury riddled year. I think it's 389 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: worth a real discussion, and it is. I also want 390 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: to make this part clear. This is not an insult 391 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: to Lamar, because if I were the Raiders, I would 392 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: not like Let let me again, this is we're playing 393 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: in double hypothetical worlds here. But let's say the Raiders 394 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: offered this to the Ravens, Max Crosby and the number 395 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: one pick for Lamar and the rap and the Ravens 396 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: said no, thank you. And then the Bengals heard it 397 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: had been offered and they called the Raiders and they said, 398 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: we'll take it for Joe Burrow. If I'm the Raiders, 399 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that deal. I don't think Joe Burrow 400 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: is worth the number one overall pick plus Max Crosby, 401 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: because even with Lamar uh having an injury riddled year, Joe, 402 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: to me is an even bigger injury risk than Lamar, 403 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: and Joe has not shown consistent regular season first team 404 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: all pro level play, the way Joe has one year 405 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: like that in his career, the way Lamar has. So 406 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: it is there are only three veteran quarterbacks in the 407 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: league that if I were the Raiders, I would offer 408 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: this package up for Lamar, Josh and Patrick. Obviously the 409 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Bills. There's nothing you could offer those 410 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: teams to get them to trade Josh or Patrick. The Ravens, 411 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: given how this last year went, the new head coach 412 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: Lamar's pending contract situation, I just wonder if the door 413 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: is creaked open to the point of if the Ravens 414 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: derive considering this, why would they have fired Harball Again? 415 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: Now we're in like quadruple hypotheticals. What I will tell 416 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: you is this they if they wanted the Hardball Lamar relationship, 417 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: that partnership could not continue. And had they kept Harball, 418 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: then Lamar really has a hammer because he also does 419 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: have a no trade clause in his deal. So you 420 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: might say, Nick, you're talking about the trade, he has 421 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: no trade clause. Players again can wave those and can 422 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: make it, can decide, you know, kind of steer where 423 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: they want to go potentially because of it. I just 424 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: think it is not. I think the Lamar contract is 425 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: going to be a big enough story this offseason that 426 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: this is of all the fake trades that exist to Monsey, 427 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: this is not total whole cloth like that. I I 428 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: do think that there will be some of that discussion 429 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: over the off season. So you're I'm not predicting it's 430 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: going to happen. 431 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 2: Crosby Mendoza and no more picks or like that's it 432 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: for no, what I'm saying the first round picks right 433 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: with no. 434 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, what I'm I'm what I'm saying is 435 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. To acquire that by itself 436 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: usually takes three first round picks, and to acquire Max 437 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: Crosby would take two first round picks. So I'm saying 438 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: this is the equivalent in value of five first round picks. 439 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: But the trade would be essentially Fernando Mendoza and Max 440 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: Crosby for Lamar Ja. Yeah, and and so you're out 441 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: on it most. 442 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I I mean if it were multiple, I 443 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: thought it was going to be multiple. I see what 444 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: you're saying in it being multiple first to equal the 445 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: number one pick of the draft. But yeah, but yeah, no, 446 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: that's not enough. I need some more retooling if we're 447 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: getting rid of Lamar. 448 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 1: But so well, that's the thing is this, I don't 449 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: think and by the way, you. 450 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: Get all the space, get all the money off of 451 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: Lamar's contract. 452 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: Right And it wouldn't just be here's the other thing. 453 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: You wouldn't be doing this being like all right, we're rebuilding. 454 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: You'd be doing it saying we have we saw. 455 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 2: The windows right now. 456 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: The Commanders, the Patriots, the Bears, and the Broncos in 457 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: the last two years have all made the divisional rounder 458 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: further with a quarterback that was either a rookie or 459 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: in his second year like we are. 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You guys tell 476 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: me the I don't mind demand's background being off. We 477 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: can fix that later there, Oh it's back, look at that. 478 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 479 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: So yesterday Backster Holmes of ESPN dropped a story about 480 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: the sale of the Lakers and the piece they also 481 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: just us how Genie Buss grew frustrated with Lebron and 482 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: didn't even want to sign him to a new contract 483 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, even talked about shipping them off 484 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: to the Clippers. What do you make of all this? 485 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so a couple and Genie Busses today came out 486 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: and you know, basically refuted some of this. Let me 487 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: say this on the front end. The thrust of this 488 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: story is not about Lebron and everyone should read the story. 489 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: It is superb reporting by a superb reporter in Baxter 490 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: Holmes who does great work, really great work for ESPN, 491 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: and you know it is very long and very good 492 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: about the bus family and the sale of the Lakers. 493 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: Okay that if I were doing Los Angeles talk radio, 494 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: that would be one of them, the major topic of 495 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,959 Speaker 1: the day on this platform. I don't know how many 496 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: people care about the palace intrigue of the Bus family 497 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: sale of the Lakers. So I'm going to focus on 498 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: the Lebron piece of it because I am interested in that. 499 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: But I again, I just want to give credit to 500 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: the story and a Baxter and say on the front end, 501 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: this is not the general plot point of the story. 502 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: But I'm going to read you the Lebron section and 503 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: then I'm going to briefly explain why it enrages me 504 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 1: from Baxterome's story, team sources told ESPN she even began 505 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: to turn against the Lakers star player Lebron James. Jeanie 506 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: privately grumbled, people close to the team say about what 507 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: she felt was James's eult sized ego and the overt 508 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: control that he and Clutch Sports, which represents both James 509 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: and Davis, exerted over the organization. She didn't like that 510 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: James was considered a savior for a floundering franchise when 511 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: he arrived in twenty eighteen, and that it was he 512 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: who chose the Lakers rather than the team's leadership, receiving 513 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: praise for landing him. More on that in a moment. 514 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: Team's sources have been adamant for years that James's camp 515 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: in four in the Lakers as early as twenty seventeen, 516 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: that he was coming to join them when he became 517 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: a free agent the following year. The distance between Jeanie 518 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: and James widened after the Lakers traded for Russell Westbrook 519 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: in July of twenty twenty one. The team had made 520 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: the trade an effort to appease James, but the acquisition 521 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: backfired in catastrophic fashion. LA went thirty three and forty nine, 522 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, and James seemed to wash his hands 523 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: of his role in the acquisition. Jeanie privately bristled about 524 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: what she felt was his lack of accountability and the 525 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: way James would shift blame onto others after the Westbrook trade, 526 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: people said in twenty twenty two. In the aftermath of 527 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: the Westbrook trade, multiple people said Genie privately mused about 528 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: not giving James a contract extension. Even about trading James 529 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: with the Clippers floated as a possibility. This was before 530 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: James received a contract extension with a no trade clause 531 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: for two years, one hundred and four million dollars, and 532 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: when the Lakers drafted James's son, Bronnie, with a fifty 533 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: to fifth pick, Genie privately remarked that James should be 534 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: grateful for such a gesture, but she felt he wasn't. 535 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: That summer she discussed a new contract for James, Genie 536 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: seemsore resigned to the fact that they'd have to do it, 537 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 1: almost begrudgingly accepting they'd take a massive pr hit by 538 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: not doing so. Okay, the reason that's the piece, and 539 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: now this is me not reading the pieces, stalky. The 540 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: reason Lebron James considered himself a savior for a floundering 541 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: franchise was simply because he was a savior for a 542 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: floundering franchise. It's not complicated, it's not weird, it's not 543 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: hard to fucking parse. The reason Lebron considered the Lakers 544 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: a floundering franchise is because before he got there, they 545 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: were a floundering franchise, and the reason he considered himself 546 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: a savior was because within two years of getting there, 547 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: they won the championship. The Los Angeles Lakers had never 548 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: been bad back to Minneapolis demanse their second year in 549 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: existence in the league. Actually, no, pardon me, their first 550 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: year in existence, when they went from the Detroit Gyms 551 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: who were bad, to the Minneapolis Lakers with George Mikeen, 552 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: they won the championship. They then won a bunch more 553 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: championships in the fifties. Then in the sixties they went 554 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: to the finals almost every year, lost to the Celtics 555 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: a bunch. Then in the seventies they got Kareem abdul 556 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: Jabbar and then in the eighties were the most successful 557 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: team in the NBA. Then in the nineties they had 558 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: their one tiny downturn, which was a thirty three win 559 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: team that missed the playoffs. And shortly thereafter they got 560 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neill and drafted Kobe Bryan or traded for him, 561 00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: and they were awesome again, the Los Angeles Lakers. Giving 562 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: the full context here prior to the twenty tens demonse, 563 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: here is the full list of years they were not 564 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, either Minneapolis or Los Angeles nineteen fifty eight, Okay, 565 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five and seventy six, that's when they traded 566 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: for Kareem nineteen ninety four and two thousand and five. 567 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: That's the list. From the fifties until the twenty tens, 568 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: they had always been excellent Florishi and then in the 569 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: five years before Lebron got there, they missed the playoffs 570 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: five times and won the following number of games twenty seven, 571 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: twenty one, seventeen, twenty six, thirty five. So all of 572 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: Lakers history five years missed the playoffs from Minneapolis to 573 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: La across Damn near sixty five years. And then the 574 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: five years before Lebron got there, they missed the playoffs 575 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: five times. Their finishes in the Western Conference again fifteen 576 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: teams in the Western Conference the five years before Lebron 577 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: got there fourteenth, fourteenth, fifteenth, fourteenth, eleventh, they were arguably 578 00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: the worst team in basketball for a half decade. That 579 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: is a floundering franchise that was saved one. Some people 580 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: think that if you save something or someone, you might 581 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: consider yourself a savior. By Lebron James wanting to move 582 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, not by Rob Bolenka or Jeanie Buss's 583 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: fancy PowerPoint presentation. So that is what happened. Now, does 584 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: Lebron have an outsized ego? I've heard that, does Clutch 585 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: sports exhibit a lot of influence over the Lakers? Seems 586 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: to be. Did Lebron James want Russell Westbrook? Yes? Did 587 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 1: that work out? No? Well, Lebron James wanted a bunch 588 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: of things. Lebron James wanted Tyloo to be his coach. 589 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: They said to that. Lebron James wanted Paul George on 590 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: the Lakers. That didn't happen, Lebron. There's plenty of things 591 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: Lebron wanted they didn't do, and plenty of things Lebron 592 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: wanted they did do. The Lakers choosing to say yes 593 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: to the request for Russell Westbrook because the Lakers brand 594 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,479 Speaker 1: is Stars when they had said no to other things 595 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 1: and yes to other things, and then acting like Lebron 596 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: is the one who called it into the league office 597 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: and washing their hands of it entirely, but then also 598 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 1: whining about Lebron helping them get Anthony Davis, which then 599 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: allowed them to get Luke ad Ancic and win a 600 00:46:52,520 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: championship is laughable and complaining to people a year after 601 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: the guy wins finals MVP for you when you win 602 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: a championship that you don't want to give him a 603 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: contract extension and you might actually trade him only to 604 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: give him a two year max contract extension with a 605 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: no trade clause is laughable. Doctor Jerry Buss was one 606 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: of the greatest owners in the history of pro basketball. 607 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: Jeenie Buss, by all accounts, is an incredibly nice person 608 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: who has a lot of friends in the media. The 609 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: new owners of the Lakers are going to get the 610 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: team back on the track it had been for doctor 611 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: Jerry Buss's entire tenure, and the track that it had 612 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 1: fallen off of entirely until Lebron James came to Los 613 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: Angeles and saved the damned team