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Speaker 1: Drafted a bunch of good offensive linemen CJ. Anderson who

427
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Speaker 1: Adam Peters was his right hand guy. Like that team

428
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: was really he built a really good team. Now it

429
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: ended pretty poorly right. Vic Fangio is not a head coach,

430
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: but like I don't totally blame him for passing on

431
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen because it's always easy to do the hindsight.

432
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: And let's face it, most guys historically that have these

433
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Speaker 1: physical skills but aren't accurate, don't have any success, don't

434
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Speaker 1: really turn into great players. A lot like Andy Reid

435
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: in the preseason in twenty twenty four. Josh Allen is

436
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: an all time NFL outlier. He really is, and he's

437
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Speaker 1: I think he's one of the more talented players I've

438
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: ever seen in any sport. I mean, he's a freak

439
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: show and I would bet on the Bills one day

440
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. Actually think they're gonna be

441
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: a lot better this year. But like other teams have

442
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: tried to follow that and it hasn't quite worked. Just

443
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: because you have the physical gifts doesn't mean it's going

444
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: to translate to being a really good player. The forty

445
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: nine Ers tried to do that with Trey Lance. He

446
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: didn't even make it to year three. The Bears did

447
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: that with Justin Fields. He was on a new team

448
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: going into whatever year five I mean, or I guess

449
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Speaker 1: this is year four. So just because you have physic gifts,

450
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: but I think it has forced teams to be aggressive

451
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: and go are we sure we want to pass on

452
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: the risk of this guy becoming a top ten quarterback?

453
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: And I was asked yesterday is Deon's kid overrated? I

454
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: just pulled up his box score. If you would have

455
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: said what was Shador Sanders numbers last year? I would

456
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: have been like thirty touchdowns, twelve interceptions. He threw three

457
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: picks last year. Now, as the season went on, the

458
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: team looked weird. He got sacked a bunch, but there

459
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: is no disputing one. He's more than big enough. You know,

460
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: you can never go off just the height and weight

461
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: on online, but just looking at him when you watch

462
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: him on TV, looks like six to two, two hundred

463
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: and ten pounds. He's not his dad athletic, but he's

464
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: more than athletic enough to scramble around like Mahomes or something.

465
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Speaker 1: And maybe he's faster than I thought. I remember one

466
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: time watching him run last year, going, yeah, he's it's

467
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: definitely not Dion, but he's more than the athletic enough

468
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: to play NFL quarterback, and he's got a really good arm.

469
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: So statistically, if he keeps putting up. Here's the thing.

470
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Speaker 1: When you evaluate college quarterbacks, winning and losing, I got

471
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Speaker 1: news for it isn't that important. It's just not. I mean,

472
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: John Elway played on a team that was like struggling

473
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: to win six games. Patrick Mahomes has never winning ten

474
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: games in college. I have no clue how many games

475
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 1: Josh Allen won, but it wasn't that many. Look at

476
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is a good example. Now, Historically, guys like that,

477
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: these physical projects used to go like late first round,

478
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: early second round. Now they go top ten, top five.

479
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: And I just think Shador now part of Josh Allen

480
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: and Mahomes' success. For as great as their physical attributes are,

481
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: and they're elite, it's the guy. It's the teammate, it's

482
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: the focus. It's how well they're received in their locker room.

483
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: It's how coachable they are are, it's how hard they

484
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: work three sixty five. It's the intangible stuff, which, let's

485
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: face it, separates a lot of people in this world. Right,

486
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: some of the most talented people aren't always the most

487
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: successful people. How bad do you want it? How much

488
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: are you willing to do it every single day? I

489
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: don't care who you are, Tom Brady, Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs,

490
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. There are days when you're just not feeling it.

491
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: But like a lot of humans, I'll just tap out today.

492
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. I'm just gonna go through

493
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: the motions today. And the best of the best just don't,

494
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: or at least have the least amount of time when

495
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: they just kind of mail it in. I'm talking year round,

496
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: because anyone can get up for a big meeting, for

497
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: obviously an NFL football game, for a potential deal that's

498
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: gonna change your businesses life. What about the days when

499
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: there's not much going on? You're like, I can just

500
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: chill do nothing, And that's not the way these guys

501
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: are wired. Because when you're a high level NFL quarterback,

502
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: you gotta be a freak addict. And that was a

503
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: huge knock on Kyler, Right, it's like playing video games.

504
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: And listen, any people play video games, No one cares.

505
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: It's like this guy, I don't think he's even looking

506
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: at film. I mean, it's one of the most famous

507
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: stories of all time, JaMarcus Russell. Back before iPads and

508
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: the internet world we kind of live in now. The

509
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: way that you had guys watch film on their own

510
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: was give him a DVD. And they gave him a

511
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: blank DVD and said he watched it, and there's clearly

512
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: nothing on there. And obviously that guy's life has spiraled

513
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 1: out of control since. But he didn't work hard. So

514
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: was he talented enough? Will never quite know. But his

515
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: work ethic was a zero out of ten. And I

516
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: don't care Tom Brady, Payton Manning. If those guys didn't

517
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: work hard, they never would have been successful. So the

518
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 1: thing with Shador, the talent and the physical attributes like

519
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: that is not going to be the big question with him,

520
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: because you like he has physical attributes. To be a

521
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: high NFL pick, people are gonna have to do a

522
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: lot of digging on the guy the team. And it's

523
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a challenge, right because if I go into

524
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: a random program Texas or Bama or Georgia or wherever

525
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: I can find someone who like will kind of give

526
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: me the skinny, give me the real that's the number

527
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: one job. You kind of act like a detective. I'm

528
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: not a huge murder show guy. Marie is addicted to him.

529
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: It's like, do we have to watch another person kill

530
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: seven people and then hunt this guy down for six months?

531
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: The FBI and the sheriffs. It's like but sometimes, like

532
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: even when I'm like I don't really want this in

533
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: my head, you start watching it. You kind of become glued.

534
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: It's kind of a job of the scouting community is

535
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: to find the information, especially with the talented guys, like

536
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: there is no hiding the top end guys, especially a

537
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: guy with this hype. But you're gonna have to find

538
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: out what makes him tick the person and it could

539
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a challenge because if there

540
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: are any question marks, is anyone gonna be will willing

541
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: to say that in a program, or the dude's dad's

542
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: the head coach and fucking idolizes his son. So it's

543
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna be a fascinating just scout for the

544
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: league because I think the off the field stuff and

545
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying there's anything there besides stuff. Listen,

546
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: people have questions. You already saw him in his but

547
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: his dad's part of it. Stock and crap to the

548
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: dude that used to play at Colorado all over social media.

549
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: That's not ideally what you want out of the guy.

550
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: But I don't even blame him if his dad's doing it, Like,

551
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: why wouldn't he do it too? His dad's one of

552
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: the greatest players of all time. It's gonna be fascinating

553
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: to watch. Last, but not least, there was some early

554
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: off season buzz about Zack Wilson potentially being the starter

555
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: in Denver, and I think I saw on Tuesday did he?

556
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: They had basically once camp started, been rotating the three

557
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: guys Jared Stidham, Zach Wilson, and Bo Nicks. Well today,

558
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson got booted, so it was just Stidham and

559
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: bow Nicks taking all the reps and Sean Payton like

560
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: any coach would would do. Try to poop poo it like, ah,

561
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: no big deal, just classic rotation. No, it's pretty clear

562
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: like Zach Wilson was never starting, And I think the

563
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: other thing is pretty clear. Week one. You can put

564
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: it in sharpie. Bo Nix is gonna be the starting quarterback.

565
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Bow Knicks to me feels like a one hundred percent

566
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: lock to start Week one, So it basically the rookie

567
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks they are gonna start that are locks are Caleb

568
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: Williams who is starting, Jayden Daniels, who I would have

569
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: a hard time seeing him not start, Drake may Know,

570
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix no, JJ McCarthy no, and Bo Knicks is

571
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: gonna start. So three out of the six are starting,

572
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: which if you draft like a six year senior who's

573
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty four years old, there is no

574
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: reason to leave him on the bench. That was my

575
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: big issue with Atlanta. It's not in investing in the

576
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Of course you invest in that position, you'd

577
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: be crazy not to. But if you take a project

578
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: like Jordan Love behind Aaron Rodgers, there's no rush. But

579
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: when you take Michael Pennix, who is ready made now.

580
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's gonna be good, but he's He

581
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: doesn't need to sit. Dude's been playing since like twenty twelve.

582
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: Like he's he's an NFL ready to go find out

583
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: if he's good or not. He just sits on the

584
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: bench for a couple of years. It's pretty bizarre. Drake

585
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: May JJ McCarthy. Ideal sit, sit them, work on them,

586
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: improve projects. Michael Pennix is not. Bo Nix is not.

587
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Speaker 1: That's why you start them week one. Okay, Top five

588
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: NFL venues. I'm fascinated by this because I think college

589
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: the NFL gets the bad rap of the The atmospheres

590
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: aren't that great relative to Saturdays. And it's true because

591
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: there's nothing like LSU at night. There's nothing like Penn

592
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: State at night. There's nothing like one hundred and ten

593
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 1: thousand people at Michigan, you know when Bama's rocking Texas

594
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma Oregon at Audsome stadium like the NFL doesn't

595
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: have that. It's a communal experience. But I've been to

596
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: a lot of NFL games. They're fun, but some are

597
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: better than others. And when you look at the top

598
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: venues like Sofi Stadium, I've never been to a stadium

599
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: even remotely close to that, and I've been to Dallas

600
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: that was always kind of the cream day ly krem,

601
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: but I think so Fi is lacked it. Obviously, it's branded.

602
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: It's just it's spectacular when you're inside, but it's no

603
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: one would ever say, like god Lsu at night, Sofi

604
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: Stadium at night. Clearly you're not saying that the Vegas

605
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Stadium awesome atmospheres a bunch of random people flying in

606
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: all over the place. But the NFL does have some

607
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: sweet atmospheres. So I just ranked my top five NFL

608
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: atmospheres and I left a couple outs part of it,

609
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: as this team sucked for a while, but I think

610
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: Denver historically has been pretty sweet. Mile High great football town.

611
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: Seattle had a stretch there with the Twelves, which was

612
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: as good as it gets. I remember the Saints played

613
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: a Monday night game there and like Drew Brees, couldn't

614
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: even hear, couldn't even function, and the Saints I think

615
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: they got beat pretty bad. This might have been late

616
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: in Breeze's tenure, might have been like fifteen sixteen range,

617
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 1: but I think Seattle's come back to earth a little

618
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: bit that the game two years ago with Russell coming

619
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: back with Denver was pretty awesome. But if they ever

620
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: got good again, that place is gonna rock start again. Five.

621
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Speaker 1: I remember watching the game there last year when the

622
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: Niners played them, and thinking there is something special. And

623
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, like the Coliseum where the

624
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Raiders used to play in Oakland, Candlestick just these old,

625
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: decrepit stadiums that are just kind of football and when

626
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: you go there, it's really just about drinking beer, getting loud,

627
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: maybe eating some crappy hot dog, but it's about football

628
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: and football only, and I think Cleveland still kind of

629
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: has that and part of the reason I put them.

630
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: They're good now. The team's competitive, but there's nothing like

631
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: hearing the fans hit like the I don't even know

632
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 1: if it's ten or something, but it echoes throughout that place.

633
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: Week one against the Cowboys is gonna be nuts. I

634
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: was listening to Rabel who was on with the part

635
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: of My Take Guys, and he said his dad took

636
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: him to a game in the Dog Pound. I don't

637
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: know when he was like junior high, and he was like,

638
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: that's the first time I'd ever seen weed and people

639
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: just getting blasted, and there's just something special about football

640
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: in Ohio. That stadium not great. They're clearly probably gonna

641
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: build a new one. I saw Andrew Berry wants to

642
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: build a dome. I got to push back on that one.

643
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: I understand why he would. Analytical guy numbers geek. You

644
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: can control a lot better if there's a dome. When

645
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: I think Cleveland, when I think Baltimore, when I think Cincinnati,

646
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: like Kansas, I think outdoor cold, I hope if they

647
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: ever do it, they do not do a dome, but

648
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: who knows. So I go Cleveland at five. This is

649
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: my only new stadium, but I think this place. The

650
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: best opening in the NFL is when everyone's doing skull.

651
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: That place freaking rocks and that stadium. I've never been there,

652
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: but it looks awesome on television. It pops on TV

653
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: day or night. And my buddies that works for the

654
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: Eagles that went there with the Super Bowl said the

655
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: place is badass. That atmosphere in Minnesota, and it's always

656
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: been good, but I think for a newer stadium that

657
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: can't be cheap to go, is just it's pretty sweet.

658
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: It has like a big ten vibe to it, like

659
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: it has a collegiate vibe to it. And I think

660
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: a lot of times you've seen it with Vegas, You've

661
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: seen it with the Niners, You've seen it with so Fi,

662
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: seen it with the Cowboys. You kind of lose that

663
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: with the glitz and the glamour, which is understandable because

664
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: you price out the die hard guy that's really gonna yell.

665
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: I got news for you. When I go to a

666
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: game and I pay a lot of money for tickets, like,

667
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: I'm not standing up all the time, I'm just kind

668
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: of sit there and enjoying it and listen. I'm not

669
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: proud to say that, but there is something about people

670
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: that used to be able to afford pretty good seats.

671
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: It just makes the place louder. The faster you get

672
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: to a wine and cheese crowd, the less likely you

673
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: are to have a crazy atmosphere. It's why these top

674
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: three stadium atmospheres all have something in common. They feel

675
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: old school. And number three is the Bills. I think

676
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: the Bill's Mafia, the games in November, December and January,

677
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: the Snow Games, it just feels pretty special. It feels

678
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: like something that in ten years as all these places

679
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: have new stadiums, including the Bills with club seeds with boxes.

680
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this place, I've I went there once.

681
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: The team was pretty crappy, but and so it wasn't

682
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: The atmosphere wasn't like what you would get with the

683
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: Josh Allen Bulls or the Jim Kelly Bulls Bills. I mean,

684
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: it's just the last of a dying breed. There's just

685
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: something unique about a small town city that has this

686
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: NFL team who's now good the snow. I just think

687
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: that it's just awesome. I mean, it pops on television.

688
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: You just find yourself rooting for those people who the

689
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: Bills mean so much to. It's one of those franchises

690
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: that you think of Chris Berman if you're my age

691
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: and growing up watching you know, breakdowns on ESPN on Sundays.

692
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: But there's just no one circles the wagons like the

693
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills number two and you could have gone one

694
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: A and one B. I think Kansas City and Arrowhead.

695
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: I've been to a bunch of games Arrowhead. I was

696
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: going when they weren't as good in the late two thousands.

697
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: But I think a little like Buffalo and we'll see

698
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: if they get a new stadium. It's just an old

699
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: school stadium. It ain't that nice. And when you get there,

700
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: it's just about football. And now these people are going

701
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: to the games. It's in the middle of a dynasty.

702
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: I was listening to Edelman's podcast, Part two with Ernie

703
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: Adams and they claimed the best game atmosphere on the

704
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: road they had played in over the dynasty was the

705
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen AFC Championship game against Patrick Mahomes's first year starting.

706
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: He was the MVP, and they beat him in overtime,

707
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: and they both said that was just that was the

708
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: coolest environment as a road team that we had ever experienced.

709
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: And this was a team that had done it all.

710
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: So and this is Ernie Adams who has known Bill

711
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: for fifty years and was on all the Patriot teams

712
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: as the right hand man. So they're not just saying

713
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: this it's a special environment. And I do believe that

714
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: it has something to do. You just naturally lose it

715
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: when you upgrade the stadium because it prices people out,

716
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 1: even though to get to a Chiefs game now even

717
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: in the older stadium is more expensive than it would

718
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: have been pre Andy Reid. But still it's gonna be

719
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: way less affordable. When you start adding all these incredible

720
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: club seeds, you quadruple the amount of suites, it just changes.

721
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: I saw it with Candlestick and Levi Stadium. It ain't

722
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: the same. It doesn't mean it's not fun, it doesn't

723
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: mean it's not cool to go to a big game there.

724
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: But it's never gonna be this good. So Buffalo and

725
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City, two places that obviously are desperate to upgrade

726
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: their stadiums, enjoy it while you can't. I mean truly,

727
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: I saw it with the Warriors when I started going

728
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: to Warriors game early on in the STEPH Clay Era

729
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: at Oracle, which is right next to the Coliseum, I

730
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: would argue one of the shittiest areas in all of America.

731
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: I would put that stretch sixty six and Hagenberger up

732
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: against any in America. Of just if you blew it

733
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: up tomorrow, not only would no one care, no one

734
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 1: would notice, and it would look very similar. But those

735
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: games at Oracle plays freaking rock Man, and it's not

736
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: the same at the new stadium. How can it be.

737
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: It's not the same crowd. So Kansas City and Buffalo,

738
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: and it's why there are certain places. Fenway Park is this,

739
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: Wrigley Field is this. Obviously, Lambeau is this that will

740
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: just battle through the test of time, and even as

741
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: the world changes, even as the economics of stadiums change,

742
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like it matters at all. And in

743
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: the next ten fifteen years, Kansas City, Buffalo, Cleveland, we'll

744
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: have some sweet new stadium more likely look like Minnesota

745
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: or Dallas or so far you know their versions, and

746
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: it'll be like remember when arrow Remember what Arrowhead was like.

747
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: Remember those games at Orchard Park in that old crappy stadium.

748
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: Remember those games. I mean, I listen, most people in

749
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: my life growing up are Niner people, and a lot

750
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: of their memories are a candlestick. Remember those games with

751
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: Joe Montana and Steve Young and Jerry Rice and even

752
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: Jim harbought candlestick. There's something nostalgic about that. So I've

753
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: never been there. I think I was supposed to advance.

754
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: I ended up going to another city and someone else went.

755
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: But they've been good for thirty plus years. The stadium

756
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: is so historic and it's just it's just an awesome place.

757
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: It's just it pops on television. Everyone knows when you

758
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: say the word lambeau exactly what you mean whenever you

759
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: see someone on social media or whatever. I got the

760
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: chance to go to lambeau Field and just go to

761
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm not even a Packer fan and just went to

762
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: the game. Obviously, the Lambeau Leap is something that just

763
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: is very special in all of football at any level,

764
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: and it's just really really cool. And the Packers because

765
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: of their success. I've been to a lot of games

766
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: against them on the road. I've seen them sell out

767
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: against the Raiders. I've seen them sell out against the

768
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. A lot of you that if you've

769
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: been to a game that your team's played the Packers.

770
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: A lot of Packer fans, and this is a team

771
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: that plays kind of in the middle of nowhere and

772
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: it's not some big, you know, metropolis, urban major city,

773
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: and they feel like one of the star warts of

774
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I think obviously a big reason is

775
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: because of the quarterbacks, because of the success, but you

776
00:44:52,480 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: could also argue it's because of the staple in lambeau Field. Okay,

777
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: let's uh do a little thing we call the middle

778
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: cough mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire

779
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: into those dms at John Middlecoff, It's just my name.

780
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: Fire in those dms. I just saw DJ Moore got

781
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: a large extension four years, one hundred and ten million

782
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: dollars over eighty guaranteed. Uh, he's really good. Think about

783
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: this with the Bears, they traded with the Panthers and

784
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: ended up with DJ Moore and Caleb Williams. Just that alone,

785
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: if you just said, hey, you're gonna end up with

786
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and DJ Moore, that's obviously they ended up

787
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: getting more. They because they picked the tackle with the

788
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: ninth pick two years ago. Uh, in a weird way

789
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: because they were still crappy. It led him to Rome

790
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: even though that wasn't the Panthers' pick. So spirits are high.

791
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: I texted buddy in the league, I said, who would

792
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: you take Ayuk or DJ? He thought it was a

793
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: coin flip, little different player. Ayuke more of a route runner,

794
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: DJ a little more physical after the catch. But if

795
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: you look at DJ's stat sheet, he has been on

796
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: a lot of shitty teams with a lot of bad

797
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: quarterback play, and he has produced. I like DJ Moore

798
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: a lot I actually think he's kind of a hybrid

799
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: of like does some of the stuff I Yuke does

800
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 1: with some of the subdebo. He's a unique player. Easy deal.

801
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: This is third contract. He got his rookie contract, he

802
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: got a second contract, and now this is his third extension.

803
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: Djmore is gonna bank a lot of money in his

804
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: career if he can stay healthy. So you have to

805
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: wonder if the forty nine ers will just copy and

806
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: paste this deal and offer to Brandon Ayuk. For the mailbag,

807
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: we'll start with Patrick at Joe miniccoff Instagram firing those dms.

808
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: Can you describe what happens when the team has a

809
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: locker room cancer? Can you give specific examples from your

810
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: time in the front office? Caras speculate on how the

811
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: Ayuk situation may spoil the locker room as a Yuk

812
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: is shown to be extremely bitter and may want a

813
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: stat pad in preparation for his contract year. How would

814
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: that affect debo and speculation? Well, they're not gonna get

815
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: to the contract year because for him to play on

816
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: the Niners this year, he will have to have a

817
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: new contract. I think there are certain When I was

818
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: with the Eagles, I don't think. We had a couple situations.

819
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: The one that jumps out to me was DeShawn Jackson

820
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: really wanted a new contract. I typically didn't always go

821
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: out to practice, but for whatever reason, our special teams

822
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: coach or something needed help, and I went out to

823
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: a practice and DeShawn it was getting kind of contentious

824
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: and he was mad. He wanted some money. And during

825
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: practice hadn't even started, and they were like doing some

826
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: punts and it was like Macklin and Deshaun Jackson back

827
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: returning punts and Maclin would go jog up a little bit,

828
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: can the ball back. DeShawn got the ball kicked to

829
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: him and then he punted the ball out of the

830
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: practice area like it went over the fence onto the

831
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: street and do Staley, who's out there? They started screaming

832
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: at each other. If I remember correctly, I think deshaangat

833
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: kicked out of practice and I think got suspended for

834
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: a game. I think those type things over money, it

835
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: just gets difficult, right, and not everyone handles it the

836
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: same way. I think there's a big difference in the

837
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: locker room cancer of just having issues with money. That's

838
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: something very relatable. I think that happens obviously if you

839
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: play in the NFL, if you have a contract that

840
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: you want more money, you're talking a lot of money.

841
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: But it's no different than guy bitching a moanent in

842
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: the cubicle that's making ninety he that thinks he should

843
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: make in one to fifty, or the dude making one

844
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: to fifty thinks he should make him two seventy five.

845
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean, saw money's all relative. I think the bigger issues,

846
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: which I don't remember as much, are when guys are

847
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: really negative and they're good players. I saw today a

848
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: headline that Matt Judon wasn't there today. Well, if you

849
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: have this guy sulking around over money and bringing down

850
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: others and when they're your best player, you got to

851
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: figure that out, and you got to figure that out fast.

852
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's you know, I used in the

853
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: position where it's awkward, but I don't think it's far

854
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: enough along. I also think you got to take everything

855
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. What you see on social media,

856
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: and no one talks the way they talk on social

857
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: media to people in real life. It's not real life.

858
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: So the way he operated a little bit, I would

859
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: say it's not how he's going to operate in fort

860
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: of Kyle John, Deebo Purdy, Christian McCaffrey. Right, but I

861
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: think the worst lie locker room cancers, or when a

862
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: guy is just I don't know, going nuts, right, like

863
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown or what happened with Chandler Jones and the Raiders.

864
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: It's like, those situations can be difficult when one of

865
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: your best players starts just going off the reservation and

866
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: it gets because you kind of like, shoot, can we

867
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: figure this out? When you have good players that want

868
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: new contracts, some guys handle it better than others. But

869
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: that's that's the NFL, that's pro sports, that's that's the world,

870
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: that's the that's life. I think when you get guys

871
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: that are under contract making money and just start acting crazy.

872
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens had some of those issues that those become

873
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: so public there's no going back. So I think most

874
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: of them contract related. It just yeah, it's tough. I

875
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: don't I don't really know what else to say. I've

876
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of this. I got a text Commodore

877
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: Love the Comedy Interview, My Commodore interview. If you missed it,

878
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: go back and check it out. If you're not a

879
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: hockey person, highly recommend it. He's an all time guest.

880
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: Why do you think the sport meaning hockey isn't as

881
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: popular in the US like football, basketball, or baseball. It's

882
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: a high speed game with hitting and plenty of violence.

883
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: Is it because people from certain regions of the country

884
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: never ice skated or don't regularly and cannot relate as well?

885
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: Do it? I feel like people will always say I

886
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: went to a hockey game and loved it, but they

887
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: never become full time fans. I think this one's pretty easy.

888
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: I'll just use myself as an example. I played baseball

889
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: as a kid, little league up until like early junior high.

890
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: I played basketball as a kid up until like eighth grade,

891
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: and I played football in high school. So what I

892
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: want like, I've played all the sports, and I think

893
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: I speak for a lot of people in America that

894
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: even if you don't play in high school, maybe you

895
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: play in junior high or little league or some hell.

896
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: I like a lot of kids. I played soccer and

897
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: when I was like six, seven, eight years old, never

898
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: actually played a little roller hockey. But I think most

899
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: people throughout America never play hockey. And the reason more

900
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: people if you think about. It is based on numbers

901
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: over the last thirty years have played football in high

902
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: school than any other sport. So it's just a numbers game.

903
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: Even if you don't play in the game, like you're

904
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: on the team, you're on practice, like you put on pads,

905
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: you played football. Most people I know have played, if

906
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: even not, you know, in a like a high school situation,

907
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: I've played recreational basketball, pick up basketball, shot that baskets

908
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: with their friends. It's why I'm high on golf. I

909
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: think more people now than ever are playing golf, and

910
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: the more people that play your sport are just more

911
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: likely to watch that sport. Really think it's that simple.

912
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: So the reason hockey is so big in Canada because

913
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people grow up playing. Even if you're terrible,

914
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: can't skate a lick, you try to play hockey when

915
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: you're ten or twelve or eight, right, That's not the

916
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: case here. You're much more inclined to try to play basketball,

917
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: try to play football. And you know, back in the day,

918
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: I know a lot like my dad who as he

919
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: got older, my dad never really liked playing golf. He

920
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: was more into tennis and back you know, in the

921
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties, tennis was really really popular and a

922
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: lot of people tried to play. And now you know

923
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: the fat guy's tennis is pick a ball, which I'd

924
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: be lying. I tend to be a little anti pickaball.

925
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: I've never played, and everyone I know that plays loves it.

926
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: I never meet people that say they play pick aball

927
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: that don't rave about it. It's just one of those things.

928
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: Everyone hangs a left, sometimes I hang it right. I'm

929
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: out on pick a ball. Maybe one day I will

930
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: try it. I'm just a hater. I mean, I'll acknowledge that.

931
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: But the more and more people that play pickleball, like

932
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: maybe pickleball on television one day will be big because

933
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,479
Speaker 1: the more people that play your sport, the more people

934
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: that watch. I know this comes up every year, but

935
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: could this year's NFC North be one of the best

936
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: divisions in NFL history? Before I keep going to your question,

937
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: I think it's impossible to do those statements slash questions

938
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: because we do it a lot before season starts. I

939
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: just think we can't do that. You have to let

940
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: the season play out, because we've done that so many times.

941
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: Didn't we do it? A couple of years ago. Was

942
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: it with the AFC West, and it turned out it

943
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: wasn't nearly as good as we thought. Detroit is obviously

944
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: good if Love can be eighty percent of his last

945
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: eight games. How is Green Bay not in the playoffs?

946
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: I feel like Minnesota has too many weapons and too

947
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: well coached to suck, and the Bears are loaded with

948
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: a ton of hype. Could we see the first time

949
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: an entire division make the playoff? I think it's impossible

950
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: for an entire division to make the playoffs, even with

951
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: the seventh team just given in both conferences could just

952
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: look around, right, So how would the fourth team? I

953
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: don't think nine wins is getting in in the NFC

954
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: because if you just go, how many double digit win

955
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: teams are going to be? Let's just say the Lions,

956
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: Let's say the Niners, Let's say the Eagles, and let's

957
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, the pick the Falcons, even though I'm not

958
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: going to pick them, but it feels like a lot

959
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 1: of people are picking them. Let's just pick the Falcons.

960
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: That's four well more than likely. Right. The Rams are good.

961
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: Tampa made the playoffs last year. Dallas has made the

962
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: playoffs three straight years, and McCarthy's pretty credible coach, and

963
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: then even some of the shitty teams in those divisions, right,

964
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: you'd have to look at all the schedules, but like

965
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: the Cardinals could beat you on a random week. The Commanders,

966
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: who I think are a little overhyped, Like, I bet

967
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: they're better. Obviously they're gonna be better next year than

968
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: they are this year. But like, let's say they have

969
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: an underwhelming year. It's six wins. A couple of those

970
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: wins are gonna come against like some playoff teams. The

971
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: Saints are frisky. I mean, they won nine games last year.

972
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 1: So I think it's just very, very difficult to get

973
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: to the spot where all four teams are that good.

974
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: I think was it three years ago the Niners, the Rams,

975
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals all made the playoffs. So I three

976
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: is an incredible season for a division. I think four.

977
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm speaking out of turn. I think it's impossible

978
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: you would need terrible seasons from the other teams in

979
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: the division. Terrible good question question for the mailbag. I'm

980
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: a Hawks fan and I can't help but hate where

981
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: the team is. Gino isn't the answer, and he actually

982
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: makes a situation worse, He's good enough to keep us

983
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: from having a shot at a top quarterback in the draft,

984
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: but isn't good enough for us to compete in the

985
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: playoffs with higher echelon quarterbacks like Herbert Allen. Obviously, Mahomes

986
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: never becoming available, let alone make it into free agency.

987
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: How do you see us solving this issue? Do we

988
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: cut trade Gino or do we bottom out with Sam Howell? Well,

989
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: bottoming out is not going to be an option. That's

990
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: not what John Schneider and your new coach from Baltimore.

991
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: That's just they're not going to do that. The only

992
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: way Howl plays is if a Gino gets hurt. Now

993
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: he's gotten hurt before. I mean last year Drew Locke

994
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: came in and you guys won games. This is gonna

995
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: sound crazy, but maybe just got to get lucky again

996
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: in the draft, like not every guy you know you use.

997
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was the seventh pick right and Buffalo traded

998
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: up to get him. Patrick Mahomes was the tenth pick

999
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: or twelve pick. I get him and DeShawn mixed up.

1000
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: One was ten and one O was twelve, but both

1001
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: those guys the other teams traded up to select, so

1002
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: you can get a guy in the teens and trade

1003
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: up and select, or you can strike oil pass the

1004
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: first round. Right. It happened with you guys with Russell Wilson,

1005
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: It happened with the Cowboys with Dak Prescott, it happened

1006
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: with the Eagles and Jalen Hurts, it happened with the

1007
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: forty nine ers and Brock Party. It doesn't have to

1008
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: be you know, CJ. Stroud second overall pick, Caleb Williams

1009
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: first overall pick. There are a lot of other guys

1010
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: having a lot of success that were not number one

1011
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: overall picks. The shitty part about that is you never know.

1012
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: Beside TPC Scottsdale, is there another course you'll play in

1013
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: the area. Yeah. I live at Greyhawk, so I bought

1014
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: this little summer pass. I've played there a couple of times.

1015
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: Cool course Troon. Many people think that that's one of

1016
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: the better courses, public courses on the coast. It's tough Weekapa,

1017
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: which is a very very popular thirty six hole track.

1018
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: It's got a casino out there on an Indian reservation.

1019
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: I played it. I've only played it once. It's when

1020
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: I came here Memorial Day. Probably twenty twenty. But it

1021
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: was sweet. That's the only time in my life I've

1022
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: been drunk teeing off because we played thirty six holes,

1023
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: started drinking whole one by the time we got to eighteen,

1024
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,479
Speaker 1: had a little delay, went in more cocktails. I could

1025
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: barely stand for the last nine holes, and I was

1026
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: playing good. I was like from hole nine to twenty seven.

1027
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: I think I was like one over the stretch in

1028
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: the middle, and then by the whole like the last

1029
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: couple holes. I mean I was falling over. But wikipa

1030
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: great experience there if you want to go a little cheaper,

1031
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: but solid tracks like Whirlwind, Raven, good public tracks. Silverado

1032
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: probably low, but it's right in Paradise Valley, close to downtown.

1033
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: I've played it. I didn't mind it. A lot of places.

1034
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: It'd be like a twenty dollars course here. Probably in

1035
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: the summer, it's probably like sixty seventy. I don't think

1036
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: you can really have a bad experience around here playing golf.

1037
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: Mail back question. I'm a Nashville native and could be

1038
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: overly optimistic of a completely rebuilt Titans team, but I

1039
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: think on paper we match up nicely with anyone If

1040
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: Levis can be the sixteenth best quarterback in the league.

1041
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: I think we can be competitive after listening to what Callahan,

1042
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: Holtz and Dinard Wilson have planned for our team, I

1043
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: can't help but think they will elevate the star power

1044
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: we have acquired. Indy and Houston are scary, but I'll

1045
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: take us over the Jags any day of the week.

1046
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: If you're ever back in Nashville, let me know. I

1047
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: can get you on a private thirty six whole track

1048
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: and I work twenty five minutes north of Nissan. Might've

1049
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: take you up. I'll be there in late August. Little

1050
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: food tasting, excited fat guys. You know who's going to

1051
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: turn down food tasting, not me one of the guys

1052
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: you listed. I know someone with the Titans pretty well,

1053
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,479
Speaker 1: one of the coaches on the staff, and I haven't

1054
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: talked to him since training camp started, but he was

1055
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: pretty optimistic in the spring. I'm not trying to overhype

1056
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: Will Levis, but they were excited. Now, most people get

1057
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Speaker 1: excited during the spring when you get a guy with

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01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: physical talents, who's a good guy, working hard, and they

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01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: were like going out to dinners with the quarterbacks. I

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01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: mean people were having a good Spring's great. I mean,

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: that's why I never understand skipping the spring to work

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01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: out on your own. You literally just go work out

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01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: what you're doing anyway, have paid for dinners by the

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01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: organization sending you to hockey and NBA games, Your coaches

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01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: take you out to sweet dinners on the organ It's

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01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: it's a very very chill time. But they do have

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Speaker 1: some talent on the team. I think the question mark

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01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be, you had Calvin Ridley, you signed Pollard.

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Speaker 1: I saw a clip going viral of Jeffrey Simmons, who

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01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: obviously is an awesome player, screaming at this radio host

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01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: today that looked like like the radio station that hosts

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01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: the Titans games. One of the dudes on there had

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01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: tweeted something and he's calling him a pussy and it's

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01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: just screaming back and forth. Very entertaining to watch. I

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01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not up to the in on the

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01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: loop of what's going on what was said, but I

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01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: love those interactions. A lot of people were commenting that

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01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: Simmons is kind of crazy. I honestly know nothing about

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01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: him besides he's a good player. Yeah, I listen every

1080
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: year there's a team I had someone DM me. I

1081
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: think about the Giants. If Daniel Jones plays like Alex Smith,

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: the win nine ten games. It's just a simple fact,

1083
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: like the Alex Smith version that Andy Reid have had.

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: But he has to be better than he was two

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01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: years ago because two years ago it was made up

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01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: for with Saquon Barkley. So they're gonna like, they can't

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01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: compete to make the playoffs with him throwing fifteen touchdowns

1088
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: even if their defense, their defensive line should be pretty good, right,

1089
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: your defensive line should be pretty good too, and offensively

1090
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: you have some weapons. You draft a an offensive lineman early.

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01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: You get Callahan's dad, who's one of the best offensive

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Speaker 1: line coaches. So it all hinges on, like, is levis

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Speaker 1: just solid and does he have games where he throws

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01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: three or four touchdowns and has some down games? Whatever,

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01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: but it's high end or is he just a bottom

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01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: five quarterback because obviously he's a bottom five quarterback. Team's

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01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: gonna suck. He's he's one of the great unknowns in

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01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. You get an offensive coach, you get his

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01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: dad's the O line coach. Like there's a lot of

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01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: emphasis in that organization and on offense. Don't know how

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01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: far your connections go, but big Saints fan and wondering

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01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: what your sources are saying about Spencer Rattler. What's funny

1103
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: is I maybe I'll start doing it next week. I

1104
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: really haven't texted anyone I know in the NFL like

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01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: how their team's looking. I actually did it for the

1106
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: first time because a buddy had reached out to me.

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01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: So I haven't really been keeping tabs beside what I

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01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: see on the internet just because it's so early. I

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01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: did see a clip on Spencer Rattler today. Hayn, who

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01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: they drafted last year, who I know friends and Steake

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01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: Guy is suspended, So Spencer Ratler is gonna be the

1112
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: backup quarterback to start the season. They clearly like him

1113
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I mean I like Haynter too, but

1114
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: I think Spencer Ratler, when it's all said and done,

1115
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: especially if he has a good camp because Hayn suspended,

1116
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be the backup. Also curious about Derek

1117
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: Carr's contract and how long he has tied to us.

1118
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: If he underwhelms, Rattler shines how punitive it would be

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: for us to move on If you guys don't make

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01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, Dennis Allen will be fired and

1121
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: Derek Carr will no longer be the quarterback. So this

1122
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: is They're one of those teams where like we can speculate,

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01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: like is Brian dave Ball really on the hot seat?

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01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: I only say that because John Morrow's recent history is

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01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: like he'll fire guys, but would it shock me if

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01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: they kind of underwhelm me and he gets another year? Yeah?

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01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: For sure. It's pretty clear. If the Saints do not

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year, they don't win the division,

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01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: but they gotta be on a wild card, they gotta

1130
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. Their coach and their quarterback are done.

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01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: That's that's not an opinion. I mean, that's pretty clear.

1132
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's in you as a Saints fan kind of.

1133
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure know that as well. So I would say

1134
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:49,959
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is a massive year for his career. Question

1135
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: for the Pod Steve Young got traded to the Niners

1136
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven to replace an injured Joe Montana.

1137
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: Montana recovered and remain the starter in San Francisco until

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01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, so Young ended up starting in nineteen

1139
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: say Young ended up starting in nineteen eighty seven. How

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01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: many Super Bowls does Young win and where does he

1141
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: end up on the all time list? For context, Montana

1142
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: won two Super Bowls from eighty seven to ninety one.

1143
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say he definitely has another

1144
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: one now I read aka, listen to Steve Young's book.

1145
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, after like year three, they started acting asking

1146
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: Walsh like what is going on? Like we need you

1147
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: need to let us go completely different times. Steve Young

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a project though when they

1149
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: got him, and part of the story he thought Joe's

1150
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: back was shot, he would only be there for a year.

1151
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: And the first practice they go out and Joe looks fantastic.

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01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: U Joe still got banged up a little bit, I

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01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: think over that time, But yeah, I don't know that's

1154
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: Steve would like when was Steve truly ready to kick ass?

1155
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: Because by the time they get rid of Joe, Steve's

1156
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: winning MVP immediately. And those teams, you know, in the

1157
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: late eighties with Charles Haley, with Ronnie Lott, obviously with

1158
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, I think wins a couple. So

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01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: he wins his in ninety four and wins another one

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01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: in the late eighties. But it's hard to just say

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Speaker 1: for a fact that if Steve was the quarterback and

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01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: Joe wasn't the quarterback, they win for sure because the Steve,

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01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: especially if you're my age, Steve got better as he

1164
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: played more, but maybe that's because he didn't really get

1165
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: he did get to play. If you go to his

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01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: it's one of the crazier stories in NFL history that

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01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: for four years their backup quarterback who they traded for

1168
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: was Steve Young, who's an NFL Hall of Famer. So

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01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: he started because Joe did get banged up. So in

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01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: eighty seven he started three games that might have been

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01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: the strike year. Eighty eight started three games, eighty nine

1172
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: started three games, nineteen ninety only started the one. In

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01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: ninety one he started ten games and went five and five,

1174
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: seventeen touchdowns, eight picks, and then his first year starting

1175
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: it was off to the races twenty five and seven.

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01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: The Niners went fourteen to two. By ninety four, he

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01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: won the MVP thirty five and ten and they won

1178
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So I think it's fair to say

1179
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: with Walsh as a coach, but didn't Seaffert I think

1180
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: Seffert took over. They win in eighty eight, and then

1181
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: he takes over in eighty nine because people act like

1182
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: Walsh has three super Bowls, sef Fort had two. Seaffert

1183
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with Montana and then won another

1184
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: one with Steve Young. That's a good question, you know.

1185
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: And I say this all the time about legit sports arguments.

1186
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 1: You can read a book or you can watch youtubes.

1187
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: If you don't live something, it's hard to know. I

1188
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 1: can give you completely borderline uneducated guesses because I didn't

1189
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: experience it. If you ask some fifty year old who

1190
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: lived through it and was a diehard fan, they would

1191
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: have a hard take. I don't have a heard take.

1192
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: It's like who was better Jack Nicholas or Arnold Palmer

1193
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: in their prime? I don't know Joe Namath or Terry Bradshaw,

1194
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: no clue. We can look at stats all we want,

1195
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: but it's like who was better Aaron Rodgers or Brett Fahr.

1196
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: Like I feel pretty good arguing that one. Who was

1197
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: better Steph Curry or Kobe Bryant. Like whenever you watch

1198
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: people yourself, it's just so much easier to like feel

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: very very good about the take like I can't have

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: strong arguments about nineteen eighties NFL. I've met enough people

1201
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: that have, like the Dan Marino ball was different than

1202
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: any how awesome Elway was as an athlete, how just

1203
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: under control Montana was. But it's like watching the YouTube

1204
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: videos is not the same. If you want to talk

1205
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen and Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers and

1206
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and Cam Newton and Eli Manning, like I could

1207
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: do it, tell him blue in the face and give

1208
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,879
Speaker 1: you if there was scenarios like that, give you perfectly,

1209
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: but it's hard. I guess I would guess he would

1210
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: win another one because the team so good, but it's

1211
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: it's hard to know. I know this till my dad's

1212
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: dying days. Those Montana truthers, they like Steve as a

1213
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: guy and a personality, and obviously he was a good player,

1214
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: but they never forgave getting rid of Joe. It's just

1215
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's no different than it's different with the

1216
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: Patriots because they didn't have anyone to replace him with.

1217
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: But when you replace the Joe Montana and you do

1218
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: it for a guy, if they would have, you know,

1219
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Garoppolo for Tom Brady had actually worked out.

1220
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: It's very, very difficult because you've just been through so

1221
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: much with the one guy and won so many championships

1222
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: and you've just seen his greatness. It's just it you

1223
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: never truly embraced that other person, You really don't. They

1224
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: almost feel like a I don't know, the stripper girlfriend.

1225
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's never quite the same the love

1226
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: that you had with your your wife and the mother

1227
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: of your children. The volume