1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: on the radio till four o'clock. After that the iHeart 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: app the Johnny Ken Podcast Johnny Ken on Demand. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: That's where you could listen to anything you missed. Yeah, 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: we're happy you're here, and of course next hour will 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: be your shot at money again. We'll return with a keyword. Well, 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: you have a chance at one thousand dollars in the 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: KFI Inflation compensation contest, and a quick reminder that the 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: Moistlide is returning tomorrow during the three o'clock hour. You 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: can still leave a message to be a part of it. 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: Use the iHeartRadio app the microphone icon there or called 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: the toll free number one eight seven seven moist eighty 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: six one eight seven seven six six four seven eight 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: eight six Well. A couple of days ago, a tragedy 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: unfolded outside of Westlake High School in Thousand Oaks, where 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: a man apparently deliberately drove over teenagers who were nearby, 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: and a fifteen year old boy died. A couple of 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: girls were seriously injured, and we have learned that the 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: name of the man that did this is Austin ice 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: Eis who started by stamping an employee in a Walmart 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: and I think we can learn more about that story 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: now and also ended up in some sort of problem 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: at home in Camillo and then drove to this high 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: school that he graduated from, apparently in twenty seventeen, and 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: deliberately struck this group of teens. Let's get to Blake 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: Trolley with more on the update on the story. So 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: what's the newest, Blake? Ye? 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: I saw a lot of blanks were filled in from 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: yesterday when I came on Ken specifically. I know yesterday 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: you were asking me a lot about who this guy was. 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: Was he homeless? Was he living out of his car? 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: We have since confirmed that yes, he was homeless. He 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: was living out of his car, thought to be living 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: somewhere around the Seami Valley area. They haven't actually pinpointed 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: that yet. I'm told he actually was uncooperative with investigations 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: as far as giving them somewhere that he was from 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: and the age. 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: So he was in his car. You're looking for his 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: parking space. 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was looking for the parking space, but I 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: couldn't find it. I was told that part of the 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: determination that he was homeless actually just stems from the 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: fact that after he allegedly ran into this group of teenagers, 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: a bunch of belongings fell out of his car. I've 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: been told it was an amount of you know stuff 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: essentially that led police to think, Okay, he's living out 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: of this car. He has prior addresses in Camarillo and 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 3: in Thousand Oaks. We also learned he was a graduate 50 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: of west Lake High School, graduated in twenty seventeen. But 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: no criminal record has shown up. I you know, again, 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: put the inquiry in with the Ventura County District Attorney's office. 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: As of yesterday, they had nothing. There's still no updates, 54 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: so really no criminal record has come up on this. 55 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: A work history after he graduated. 56 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: And that's still something John that I'm working to figure out. 57 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: You know, this morning, I was making plenty of calls 58 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 3: just trying to get as much as I could on him, 59 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 3: and that little bit of information that I was given 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: is as. 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 4: Far as I was able to get. 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: But we have gotten a lot more details as to 63 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: exactly what led up to him allegedly crashing into that 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: group of teenagers and killing that boy. 65 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: And again. 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: Just to simplify this chain of events, it goes stabs 67 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: and attacks and to employees at Walmart, gets into a 68 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: fight with his family members, then hooks back two thousand 69 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: Oaks where he allegedly hit the four teenagers. 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 4: At a bus stop. 71 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Again. 72 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: Yesterday, we spoke to that Walmart employee. 73 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: He told us that this all started when Austin Ice 74 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: was asked if he wanted a receipt. We're now told 75 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: in that attack, Ice is accused of pepper spring that 76 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: employee in the garden section and stabbing him, then assaulting 77 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: another woman who works at the store, trying to dragger. 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: People at the store went to help. Police say Ice 79 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: lunged at them with a knife and then took off 80 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: as of yesterday. As of late yesterday, we were told 81 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: the man who was stabbed is still in the hospital. 82 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 3: After leaving Walmart, he went to his family member's house, 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: got into some sort of dispute. 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: We're told there he pulled. 85 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: Out a knife, threatened people with it, and also pulled 86 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: out a gun in that situation, again, nobody injured there. Then, 87 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: about an hour later, Ice is accused of hitting that 88 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: group of teenagers, killing fifteen year old Wesley Welling. We've 89 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: now learned that Welling's sister was standing next to him. 90 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: Both were waiting for the bus. Both were waiting to 91 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: go home and celebrate their mom's birthday. And again, Austin Ice, 92 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: as we've been told, is you know, homeless and living 93 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: out of his car. 94 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: And nothing from the Ice family in Camarillo about what 95 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: was wrong with their son. Nothing, huh. 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: Now at this point in time, the family has been 97 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: pretty quiet. That's something that I think a lot of 98 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: us are interested in hearing from. You know, were there 99 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: any signs, did they ever reach out to law enforcement 100 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: before or is this something that's thrown them off by surprise, 101 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: because again, as we pointed out, guys, there's no criminal 102 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: record of him. 103 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: Wow. 104 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: And when you hear this chain of events, it really 105 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: does seem like some sort of mental breakdown. 106 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: Saying if he's living in his car, they know that, 107 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: and if he's not in the house, they know why 108 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: they had to throw him out or he ran off, 109 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: because you can't do drugs or act like a schizophrenic 110 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: inside your parent's house and the alternative is only in 111 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: the street. Because if you have this kind of drug 112 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: problem or schizophrenic, a problem. 113 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: You can't work. 114 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: So if you can't work, now you're just sitting in 115 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: a car, if you're lucky enough to have a car. 116 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: Sure, and one would assume some sort of relationship issues 117 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: right when you hear that, that fact that he goes 118 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: back to his family member's house and threaten them with 119 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: a knife and with a gun. 120 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: See, because they probably threw him out. But did all 121 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: these guys were thrown out by their face to know 122 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: he had a gun too? Now, isn't that nice to hear? 123 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: That wasn't a fact yesterday? 124 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: Was it? Blake was all about the knife? 125 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: No, they did charge him with possession of a gun. 126 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: And again that comes from the fact that he pulled 127 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: out the gun when he was fighting with his family. 128 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: But I guess the fact that he pulled it out 129 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 3: he brandished that gun during that dispute with his family. 130 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: Can. 131 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we hadn't learned much about any of that until 132 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: way late yesterday. 133 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, because yesterday you said it was just he was 134 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: angry about being off at a receipt, But now we 135 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: hear he was trying to drag an employee a way. 136 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, try to drag an employee, other employees, other 137 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: people try to step into help. Apparently he then lunges 138 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: at them with a knife. And if the Walmart employees 139 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: testimony we heard yesterday is true, this all started when 140 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: he was asked if he wanted a receipt, so that. 141 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: You know what, there is nothing a family can do 142 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: if their kid is on wild drugs or schizophrenic. You 143 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: can't because you can't force the guy into treatment, and 144 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: there aren't that many places to go, and you don't 145 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: stay there very long, and schizophrenia is not curable. A 146 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: lot of these drug addictions really aren't curable. And what 147 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? You sit home and hope he 148 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: doesn't come back. 149 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: And kill you. 150 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Well, we don't have the laws where they could get 151 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: him committed for any long period of time. 152 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: No, it's a complaint. It's what they've been talking about 153 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: in Sacramento is maybe changing so you didn't have longer commitment. 154 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: They had been talking. This is the compassionate crowd. They 155 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: had been talking and talk and a dock and in doc. 156 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: All right, Blake, thank you very much for that update. 157 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: All right, thanks guys, die, It's Blake Trolley KFI News 158 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: on the tragedy that unfolded in Thousand Oaks on Tuesday afternoon, 159 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: when what is now apparently been confirmed, a homeless guy 160 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: went on a rampage, started at a Walmart, went to 161 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: his family home, caused problems there with a gun and 162 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: a knife, ran off, and then went back to his 163 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: old high school in Thousand Oaks Westlake and ran over 164 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: some teenagers, killing a fifteen year old man boy. 165 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: And somebody else's innocent son gets killed. Now that family 166 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: has to live with that grief for the rest of 167 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: their life. 168 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: Thirty miles in three locations he got to in that 169 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: time in his house. He's driving around in a car 170 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: he was living in. So yeah, pepper spray, a knife 171 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: and a gun. Yeah nice. He was ready to go, 172 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: but apparently no priors as far as we know, I mean, 173 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: twenty four. It could be John, You're right, if it's 174 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: mental illness, if they have just started up right, you know, 175 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: more recently, and him completely and useless. This is a 176 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: different track than a career criminal, we think. So we 177 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: don't know yet, but that's why I thought the family 178 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: would say, well he did. Paranoids get to Freddia. We've 179 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 2: been trying to get him to help and he fights 180 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: with it. 181 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: I thought they would say something by now, because somebody 182 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: died in this, they ought to say something, right, don't 183 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: you think his family just give us something? 184 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: They know? I know, I thought they would put out 185 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: a statement nothing at least now two days later, nothing 186 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: from the family of this killer, which you know, might 187 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: help some of the people affected by this understand it 188 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: a little more. But it's horrible. It's like I say 189 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: every day, and I can see it. There's just so 190 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: many mentally unbalanced people just wandering around. It's all we 191 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: got going on the whole country right now. And even 192 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: though they were a minority by far, there's enough of 193 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: them to cause chaos and mayhem. 194 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that little tiny minority can cause a lot 195 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: of damage and a lot of deaths, and they do 196 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: every day now because everybody just sits and talks. You 197 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: know what, There's no new miracle thought or program that 198 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: anyone's gonna come up with. We know exactly what it is. 199 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: We know that there's not a hell of a lot 200 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: to do. The only the only option is is to 201 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: lock them up, to force them, force them to be 202 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: inside in a lockdown facility. 203 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: All right, we got more coming up. Johnny kenkfi Am 204 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: six forty. We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio. 205 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 206 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 207 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, just after six thirty our time, SpaceX launched 208 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: a rocket near Boca Chica, Texas. This is, of course, 209 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: the plan to eventually send people to the Moon as 210 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: early as twenty twenty five. SpaceX, of course, is Elon 211 00:09:54,880 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: Musk's project. According to reports, the rocket took off thirteen 212 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: hundred miles per hour, got eighteen miles above the Earth, 213 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: and then exploded. Did it with a splatch? My favorite 214 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 2: is the launch commentator who said the following. 215 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: Uh, starship has just experienced what we call a rapid 216 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: unscheduled disassembly. 217 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 2: No, is that what they said? Ye have it in 218 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: quotes book. In the New York Post story, a launch 219 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: commentator said, an unscheduled disassembly. Is there any audio of that? 220 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: I guess so if you find I don't want to 221 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: hear him saying. 222 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: I like, you know, we talked about the language on 223 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: the show a lot. That's a good way to put it. 224 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: Unscheduled disassembly. It's one of the all time greatest euphemisms. 225 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: Holy moly, they can't say it exploded. 226 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: No, they're calling this a success. They're happy. What was 227 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: the success part? Well, I guess it's one of those 228 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: trial and error in every time they do this, they 229 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: learn something and they think they'll still on track. NASA 230 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: is partnering the Starship on a three billion dollar contract 231 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: well for an uncrewed test touchdown on the Moon. To 232 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: prepare it had a plan twenty twenty five and twenty 233 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: twenty seven lunar landings. 234 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: You know, when you have one hundred billion dollars, you 235 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: can do this stuff. 236 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 2: They're not saying how much this rocket costs. 237 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: You could see I'm sure it costs millions, and so 238 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: then you could launch it. 239 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: And how long was it up there? It was up 240 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: there eighteen minutes, eighteen. 241 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: Minutes, and then it goes boom, and then it was 242 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: a disassembled Then it was just I'm sorry, eighteen miles. 243 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: No, eighteen miles. Yeah, you got eighteen miles at thirteen 244 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: hundred miles per hour. There wasn't a few seconds there. 245 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: Four hundred foot long rocket, again unmanned as most people assumed, 246 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: you can carry more than two hundred and twenty thousand pounds. 247 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: It has twice the thrust of the Apollo era Saturn 248 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: five rocket that took astronauts to the Moon. All right, 249 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: play the clip. 250 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 6: Well, if you're just joining us, just experienced what we 251 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 6: call a rapid unscheduled disassembly or RUD during ascents? 252 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: Were people laughing at him in the background, Well, they 253 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: were cheering, and they were still happy because they're claiming 254 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: that this is just, you know, part of the process. 255 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: Eighteen seconds in the air is a win. I don't 256 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: know if he's in eighteen seconds. I just I said 257 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: it was eight miles. 258 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: Eighteen miles, okay, but if you're going you're going at 259 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: that speed, it wasn't long. It's a few seconds. If 260 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: you're going thirteen hundred miles per hour, to get eighteen 261 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: miles doesn't take very long, now, he said. 262 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: Musk has said in the past that launch costs one 263 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: day could sink from around ten million to as little 264 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: as one million. So did that that cost ten million? 265 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: That's not wondering. I thought even that was low for 266 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: a rocket like this. I thought I was guessing more 267 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: than ten million, maybe twenty or thirty million, But nine 268 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars worth of fuel. Geez, well, if it 269 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: had been carried off the space craft would have separated 270 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: from the super heavy booster and continued its ascent before 271 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: coming back and hitting the Pacific Ocean in a water 272 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: landing that would have exploded the spacecraft on impact. But 273 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: they have been NASA didn't get to that point. 274 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: NASA has been successfully launching rockets where the space capsule 275 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: separates since the nineteen sixties. They've been doing it for 276 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: alm us sixty years. 277 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: Is it because this one is a good? Is it bigger? 278 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: And it's supposed to actually take people, so instead of 279 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: just a couple of astronauts supposed to actually be like a, 280 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, you can carry more than two hundred 281 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: and twenty pounds. That's a heavy payload. Now, that's what 282 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: you want to do with your money? They, I guess. 283 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: So cancel my reservation on the first Moon trip though, 284 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: let's see money us go. 285 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: First twenty twenty five. Yeah, that maybe a little soon. 286 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: That's only two years away. They stay on schedule. Yeah, 287 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: I got to the high speed rail project anyway. Yeah. 288 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: The rocket has been brought out by several billionaires for 289 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: private space flights, including one intended to circle the Moon 290 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: that's funded by a Japanese fashion Bogel by the name 291 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: of Usaku Mawaza. 292 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: See, if if this proves to be routine and I 293 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: had the money, I would definitely go on board to 294 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: go shirt. 295 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I know you've been very absolutely do you go 296 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: leave this earth? 297 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: So I want to leave this earth, you know, and 298 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: then and then pull the pull the exit bar on 299 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: the door and just orbit the moon all by myself. 300 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, so I guess the progress They started in 301 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: July of twenty nineteen with a prototype called the star 302 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: Hopper short and stubby, it's described the thing they called 303 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: today was a star ship. So what they're doing is 304 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: they're progressively building it bigger and they think better. I mean, 305 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: it's still bad. We just we just we just have. 306 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: A world now where nobody publicly admits it's like, hey, 307 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: well we screwed up there. 308 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: That was all this this morning. I was thinking disaster 309 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: right away. I was thinking, oh boy, they probably want 310 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: that to happen. Seconds after it launches it blows up. No, 311 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong with that. 312 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it is part of the process when you're 313 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: doing something extraordinary that not everything is gonna work. But like, 314 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: don't don't sell me a bag of poo here, all right, 315 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: you're your your rocket blew up. 316 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: The NASA administrative Bill Nelson didn't seem concerned. He tweeted 317 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: every greater treatment throughout history as demanded some level of 318 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: calculated risk because with great risk comes great rewards. For 319 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: that cliche, I know looking forward to all that SpaceX learns, 320 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: to the next flight test and beyond. 321 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: But don't sell me that it was a success. You're 322 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: gonna learn something that might lead to a success. That's 323 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: that's understandable, and it's your money. It's a qualified success. 324 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: I just hate being constantly bs to you know. I 325 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: see a rocket explode with my own eyes. I was like, oh, 326 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: you know that was a success. Like, no, well, no 327 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't. You didn't intend that, stop it. Everybody does 328 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: this all day now. Apparently they cheered because it got 329 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: off the launch pad. They were just happy and got 330 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: off till But I would say, John. 331 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: It's got to be a different kind of rocket than 332 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: what you're talking about the traditional space programs. Because Musk 333 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: congratulated his team on an exciting test flight, they learned 334 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: a lot for the next attempt that's going to come 335 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: in a few months. 336 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: Was there a camera on him when it blew up. 337 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean he must have flinched a little bit, right. 338 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: I can see a picture of him. I don't know, Oh, 339 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: it says Musk reacts to the test flight explosion on Thursday. 340 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: His face, it's kind of neutral looking. He's sitting in 341 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: a little chair with a headset on and he's looking 342 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: up at a monitor. Well, that's just aspergers. He doesn't 343 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: seem to have much of an expression of anything on 344 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: his face. It's just data collected from the test run 345 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: is going to improve the rocket's reliability in the future, 346 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure, company tweeted out. Several prototypes of the spacecraft 347 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: have been previously launched, but today marked the inaugural voyage 348 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: of its first stage booster with thirty three methane fueled engines. 349 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, is this a climate problem. 350 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: That was a lot of methane they blew That was 351 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: nine hundred thousand gallons of fuel. That the Earth is 352 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: another degree warmer now after that blew up. 353 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: In NASA's partnering with Starship two point nine billion dollar 354 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: contract for this idea to get down on the Moon 355 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: either in twenty twenty five or that would mark man's 356 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: first return to the Moon since nineteen seventy two is 357 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: the last time we put a man on the moon, 358 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: it says here. Once the kinks are worked out, the 359 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: stainless steel rocket is designed to be reusable, oh, recycling, which, yeah, 360 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 2: it would be like the Space Shuttle. We could use 361 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: it again, he thinks. Yeah. The costs will eventually sink 362 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: from around ten million to as little as one million 363 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: dollars per launch. But apparently the New York Post tried 364 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: to get the dollar figure on the rocket that exploded 365 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: in the company did not publicly release the information on that. 366 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: Looks like there were a lot of people there watching this. 367 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's suppose to be really exciting to see a 368 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: rocket launch. I've always wanted to see one. 369 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: The company sells its Falcon nine and it's Falcon Heavy 370 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: for sixty two million and ninety million dollars, far cheaper 371 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: than the four billion dollar launch cost of NASA's latest 372 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: giant rocket. Always said, so that's what he's trying to 373 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: do too, Make it so if it is going to 374 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: be for space travel, it can't cost so much. And 375 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 2: you're going to charge people so much, you won't get 376 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: many customers. 377 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, No, they want to make this a big business, tourism, 378 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: space tourism. 379 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: They're right. The Musk has said that the starships required 380 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: nine hundred thousand dollars worth of fuel to launch wsten 381 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: million dollars in fuel. 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He'll be out there forever. 391 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: You can be disseminated around the planet. 392 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: Eric Sklar is the judge. He is our judge of 393 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: he's our pla Abdul executioner as well. Oh yes, yes, 394 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: you can quickly derail your career now. 395 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: You don't complain about it the way Clay used to. 396 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: Clay thought that this is just the most annoying job. 397 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: It would go on deaf ears anyway, so I figured 398 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 2: not to. 399 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a good way to put it that you 400 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: wanted to manage the situation. You understand, we're unreachable. We 401 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: don't care about any of those problems plays that I 402 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: rue the day you thought of the moistline idea. 403 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean it is pretty tedious, but 404 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do. It's 405 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: part of the job. Sure, that's the attitude. You do 406 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: good work with it. That's a plague you. I never 407 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: said that before. And a team player, right, yeah, yes, 408 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: And sure he does a great job. And I like 409 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: the fact that there's not too many John and Ken 410 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: f you calls in there. Oh I like those. 411 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't mind them. Oh, sometimes they were like half 412 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: the voistliner. Well maybe we were annoying people. All right, 413 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: so Eric do this. If there's just they hate John, 414 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: put those in all right, sounds good. Ken's too sensitives. 415 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: They go after the vegan a lot, which is bring 416 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: it on. Oh those I have the censor. 417 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 7: Do we have a lot of very mean listeners, I 418 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 7: might point out, Why. 419 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: Would they pick on you? I don't know. She forwarded 420 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: me an email from the listener who was listening about 421 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: the French fries last hour. What was he recommending? Some 422 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 2: se gellats and avocado. It was like, what a WEENI? 423 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: This guy was a nice little vegetable sandwich. He was 424 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: recommending sallads an avocado and yeah, I think a little 425 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: too much testosterone. 426 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 7: I'd like to make avocado and tomato sandwiches. And the 427 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 7: secret ingredient is thin sliced shallats, a shalloe. 428 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: What is a shallots? The type of onion? It took 429 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: a green onion, delicious, Thank you for that. You can 430 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: reach the moistline using the iHeartRadio app the microphone icon 431 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: or called the tell free number. It's one eight seven 432 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: seven moist eighty six one eight seven seven six six 433 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: four seven eighty eight six. Well, Mayor Yoga Pants is 434 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 2: long gone. I don't even know if he's in India yet. 435 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: Does anyone care? Nobody knows his his. 436 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: Dystopia stagia, Yes, Garcetti dystopia. 437 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: That was his dystopian vision to make La a rat hole. 438 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: Then he succeeded because we paid tribune to former Mayor 439 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: Richard Reard and you passed away last night at the 440 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: age of ninety two. And we think he was certainly 441 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: LA's last good mayor. Yes, the Rst. Los Angeles mayor 442 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: and Garcetti was the worst mayor in. 443 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: LA twenty two years since Rearden was our mayor, and 444 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: sad to see him going. Of course, he did a 445 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: good job as mayor, so well you ever have that 446 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: kind again? I don't know. 447 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: So, of course, we were hoping that Garcetti's appointment as 448 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: the next ambassador to India would die in the United 449 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: States Senate because it was lingering for a year and 450 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: a half, and unfortunately a few Republicans just gave up 451 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 2: and voted for him to make his way to India. 452 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: The one we're looking at now, not as well known 453 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: by most people as Garcetti, is a woman by the 454 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: name of Julie Sue Su. Julie Sue is the nominee 455 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: for the United States Labor Secretary, but before that she 456 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: headed up California's Labor department. And wow, you talk about 457 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: another wasteland. How does this woman? I mean, really, you 458 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: go up the ladder in inverse proportion to your incompetence. 459 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: In competence, you know what it did. 460 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: There's a phrase failing upward. Yeah, yeah, I never used 461 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: to understand it because that's not the way my mind 462 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: is oriented. Don't mean you fail upward, and then you 463 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: start watching politics, especially these days, realize that's exactly what 464 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: goes on. Carsetti tumbles upwards to being an ambassador here 465 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Julie Sue. Julie Sue presided over the thirty billion dollar 466 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: fraud of the unemployment money during COVID. 467 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: That was hardest by far fiasco. Know what happened with 468 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: all the fraud. And remember she was right there to 469 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: green light just pay everybody nobody. Don't worry about the 470 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: hoops they have to jump through right now, just get 471 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: the money out there. And so prisoners and scammers from 472 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: all over the world took advantage of us. 473 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: There's never been a bigger fraud in the history of 474 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: the United States towards one state government. I mean the 475 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: biggest fraud in history because of her actions and decisions, 476 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: because she chose to have anything goes policy. If you 477 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: apply for it, you get the money. And so an 478 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: entire globes worth of scammers got over thirty billion dollars 479 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: in fraudulent money from Julie Sue. 480 00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: It's her. 481 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: She already got one promotion. Biden took her to Washington, 482 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: d C. To be a Deputy Secretary of Labor. Well 483 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: the guy that was the Secretary of Labor moved on 484 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: and so he nominated her to have the entire department. Today, 485 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: she was before the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions 486 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: Committee about her confirmation hearing. She has to get past 487 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: a committee first before the full Senate votes on her. 488 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: But from what I'm reading, not only was of course 489 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: Republican objections, there's some Democrats who withholding support too. The 490 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: reasons vary because we also didn't mention AB five. Assembly 491 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: Bill five was also very much supported by Julie Sue, 492 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: and of course that led to havoc for people who 493 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: worked jobs on their own. They're self employed, free dependent contractors, freelancers. Yeah, 494 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: Instead we find out probably the real reason she got nominated. 495 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: She would be the first Asian American to serve in 496 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 2: the cabinet at the secretary lef. 497 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: That's all they would talk about the Biden administrations first. 498 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: That's all they were talking about at the hearing is 499 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: that she's Asian. Nothing else, right, just her ethnicity. There's 500 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: no other qualification to become Labor secretary other than having 501 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: some underrepresentative ethnicity in your lineage. 502 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: Associated Press did mentioned Sue has faced blame for problems 503 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: at the California Labor and Workforce Development Agency during the 504 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: coronavirus pandemic, when unprecedented numbers of people applying for un 505 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: employment benefits faced long wait times, and this state paid 506 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: out billions of dollars in fraudulent claims. 507 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: That was part two. Yeah, yeah, she paid out thirty 508 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: billion dollars through criminals. But the people who deserved the money, then. 509 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: They tightened everything up right, and then the people that 510 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: deserved the money didn't get the money because they went 511 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: overboard the other way. 512 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Right, and the entire process was horrifically delayed. Remember that 513 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: the phone service that they had now, people would call 514 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: for weeks weeks couldn't get through. We're constantly hung up 515 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: on She's a disaster. She's one of the worst bureaucrats 516 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: in history. What Biden, He's picking some of the worst 517 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: people ever. Like Darcetti wasn't jested like like a mediocre 518 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: mayor or kind of a competent boop. He was the 519 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: worst Los Angeles mayor ever. This is the worst California 520 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: bureaucrat ever. 521 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: Well, she was confirmed by the Senate in her current 522 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: role as a deputy fifty to forty seven that was 523 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. There is at least three Democratic 524 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: senators who did not indicate they were going to support her. 525 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: It's good old Joe Mansion, John Tester, Mark Kelly, and 526 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: then that independent Kirsten Cinema declined to say whether or 527 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: not they would vote for her. And then Feinstein, of 528 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: course is dealing with shingles and face down knowing. Oh, 529 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: and John Fetterman returned and apparently that didn't go well either. 530 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: Now the Pennsylvania senator who for a stroke and then 531 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: left because of depression. Yeah. Months. 532 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was trying to read an opening statement at 533 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: a subcommittee hearing that he was the chair of Yeah, says. 534 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: Food assistance policy. We have some of the audio. Yeah, 535 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: play it. It's it's it's very slow. 536 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 6: Hunger is not a Republican or a Democrat issue. It's 537 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 6: all of our issue that we have to take it on. 538 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 6: We need to come together and stop playing political games 539 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 6: with Americans access to food. Americans like chair about Coloric 540 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 6: draw from the nowth to the town of Northeast in 541 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 6: Pennsylvania tells me that his victim was skimming, which was 542 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 6: where somebody stole money and he relied from its snappybt. 543 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 6: Mister Jeor is not the first Pennsylvania I've heard this from. 544 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 6: I fear he won't be the last. And I will 545 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 6: work in this foreign bill to modern I snapped to 546 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 6: work to recipients in the twenty first century. I look 547 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 6: forward to from hearing from you, your witness on this 548 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 6: newstitchen assistance on the fine bill. 549 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's not good. 550 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine him, Biden and Feinstein having a summit meeting. 551 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, should there be a minimum requirement 552 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: of brain function? 553 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: Was a labor lawyer, civil rights lawyer, and some of 554 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: the Republicans don't like the fact she's so connected to labor. Yeah, 555 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: she's a civil rights attorney. She's what she got to do. 556 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: Completely owned, She's entirely owned. 557 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: Like most California Democratic politicians, they're entirely owned by unions. 558 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: Noah, No, the industry groups have launched ads against her 559 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: in West Virginia, Montana, and Arizona. Right, the unions are 560 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: backing her. 561 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: Right, And that's that's and those are the three states 562 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: where you have demo credit. 563 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: Senators will not commit. Right. Bernie Sanders is a big fan, though. 564 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: I think she's perfect to take on the corporate monsters. Sure, 565 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: that's what he said. 566 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: Oh, a communist stick together they do that. 567 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: Well, well, we're hoping that maybe her nomination doesn't make it. 568 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: It's not as joyful as we would be of GRCETI 569 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: didn't make it, but we would still at least celebrate 570 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: one incompetent who doesn't get to go up the ladder. 571 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: More coming up, John and Ken KFI AM six forty 572 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: were live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 573 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 574 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 575 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: Also, I am told that there's a no vacancy sign 576 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: on Bidenville, So there's no room for John Fetterman and 577 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: no room for Diane Feinstein either. So all the beds 578 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: are filled. 579 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: Oh you're going to make that excuse like they're doing 580 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: with the homeless. There's no beds. There're no beds. No, 581 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: they weren't funded. We can't take in anymore people that 582 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: need help and support. There's no Fettermanville or find Seinvil. 583 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: Cobaltville isn't far a little bit. No, I'm building my own. 584 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, come it up after at three o'clock. 585 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: We told you earlier in the show. See this is 586 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: what you get. If you missed it, you go to 587 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: Johnny kennon demand that Gaven Neuwsom appeared surprise appearance in 588 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: San Francisco and the Tenderloin district or all the fentanyl 589 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: is killing people. I mean that story yesterday. In the 590 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: first three months of the year, the number of OD 591 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: deaths are off the charts in San Francisco. So he 592 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: made a surprise visit there and all he talked about 593 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: was we'll bring more what's it called it revives people? 594 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: Nark Can, nark Can, Right, that's it. We're gonna spend 595 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: more money on narkap and we are to give nark 596 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: Can to Biden see what happens. Other people have different ideas. 597 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: Republicans and Sacramento have been pushing some bills to deal 598 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: with the fentanyl crisis in California, which supposedly takes the 599 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: lives of one hundreds every month in the state. We're 600 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: gonna talk to an assembly woman next hour by name 601 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: of Laura Davies, who has an office or district includes 602 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: Senbuan Coupistranto. She will join us because there has been 603 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: some movement. We'll tell you what it is in terms 604 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 2: of some special hearings, it'll come up on some bills 605 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: dealing with the fentanyl problem. Although you and I asked 606 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: the question yesterday, isn't there a way to just bypass 607 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: these stupid public safety committees and just have the full 608 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: Senate Assembly vote, Because there's a lot of support in 609 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: the state senator, even among Democrats, for one of the 610 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: bills dealing with the people who deal fentanyl. So I 611 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: don't know why somebody make a move to do that. 612 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: You know that most people in the state would want 613 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: this fentanyl bill passed, and it looks like a majority 614 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: of the senators are sponsoring the bill. So how can 615 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: you have a majority of the senators sponsoring the bill 616 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: but you can't get a majority of the senators to 617 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: vote for it, well, because it doesn't come out a 618 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: committee until the committee approves, and committee hacks that run 619 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: this have just put up a stop sign. And now 620 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, is this on purpose? 621 00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: Though? 622 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: Is this so all the other Democrats could say, oh, no, 623 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: I support the bill. 624 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: I absolutely would vote for it. 625 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: Knowing they'll never have to vote for it because they 626 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: put in all these firebrand progressive whack jobs to block it. 627 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: Because that's they're appointed. To get on a committee like that, 628 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: you have to be appointed by the Democratic State Senate leadership. 629 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: So why have they been I know why they've been 630 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: appointed because actually most of the Democrats don't want any 631 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: anti crime bills, including this one. But they could pretend 632 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: they want this fetenyl bill passed. Then they don't want 633 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: it passed and they remove these people. They're really that cynical. 634 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: That's really the way the world works, all right. 635 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: So we'll talk to the assembly woman coming up after 636 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: the news at three o clock. Well, we move over 637 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: to the animal desk, Debora Mark. This is a classic 638 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: one happy animal story. No, well, in a way, yes, 639 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: because he got canceled. What happened? Organizers of a New 640 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: Zealand hunting contest are canceling an event that would have 641 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: seen children fourteen and undercompete to kill the most feral cats. 642 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: It's a competition, yes, children. The North Canterbury Hunting Competition 643 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: is open to both kids and adults and aims to 644 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: manage invasive species and raise money for local causes, like 645 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: a school in a pool in one of the villages 646 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: last year. Deborah Mark, Oh boy, raise yourself, get ready. 647 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: More than two hundred and fifty children competed and killed 648 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty seven animals, mostly possum hares and rabbits. 649 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: What kind of a person, stop giggling, make me giggle. 650 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 7: No, it's not funny. 651 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty children, That's what I don't get them. Kids. 652 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: I thought New Zealand was this wonderful, peaceful place. That's 653 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: what you told me, Ken it is. 654 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: But it's all beautiful. 655 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: It's got very rural parts, says I. And I don't 656 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: know how they killed him, Devermark. Did they shoot him 657 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: or stab him or just bow and arrow? 658 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: These are savages here. So they added a new category 659 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: this year. Whoever could kill the most feral cats between 660 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: mid April and late June would win the equivalent of 661 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five bucks. 662 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 4: Wooo. 663 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: But there was a qualifier. If you kill a microchip cat. 664 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: Uh oh, you're disqualified because obviously all but they wouldn't 665 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: know until after the Uh yeah, I don't know. It 666 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: was laid out there. I guess, so I don't know. 667 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: In fact, the protest group says disqualifying dead cats with 668 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: microchips is too little, too late. It's not even an ambulance, 669 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: but a grave at the bottom of the cliff. 670 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: So the competition changed our sponsors in school safety or 671 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: a main priority. So it isn't may to withdraw this 672 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 2: category for this year to avoid further backlash. It sounds 673 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: to me like they're still doing well the thing, but 674 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: they're just not doing that special money so incentive. 675 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: So the cats are excluded. Are they still going after 676 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: the bossoms and the rabbits? 677 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 5: I don't know. 678 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't they see the organizer said, this fundraising effort 679 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: is critical to help they're wreaking havoc on wildlife. Again, 680 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: here's what the cats do. You have any idea what 681 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: they do? What go ahead, John? No, No, you go ahead. 682 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: They eat rabbits, birds, bird eggs, bats, lizards, mice, other insects, 683 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: which they said has a major impact on the environment 684 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: there because those creatures do good for the environment. 685 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 2: Well wait a second, the contest last year was killing rabbits, 686 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: though some people killed rabbits. 687 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So this year they're killing the cats because 688 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: the cats have been killing the rabbits. 689 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 2: They're calling feral cats. At plague levels in this area 690 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: of New called Canterbury, they can grow larger than house 691 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: cats in the right conditions, they don't tend to live 692 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: as long, and they're similar in appearance. It says, here 693 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: to your typical tabby cat towards in black house. 694 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: Oh, here's a new word. Some of the advocates want 695 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: the government to establish a cat Management Act. A hundred 696 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: million birds across the country every year eaten by cats. 697 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's very sad. But we need to figure out 698 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 7: another way instead. 699 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: Of doing this. Well, what's the other I don't know. 700 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 2: I can't. 701 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 7: I mean, I have to think about it. I can't 702 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 7: just let you know right off the rot send. 703 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 2: Them the classes tomorrow at this time. Let's move them. 704 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 7: Let's move them, Let's move them elsewhere. I don't know's 705 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 7: there has to be a place. 706 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 2: Wow. New Zealand has a plan Predator Free twenty fifty. 707 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: They want to eliminate most of the predators that are 708 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 2: rats and possums and something called a stoat. 709 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. Have they not heard 710 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: of the circle of life? That's a cruel country. Those 711 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: Zealanders are barbarians. 712 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: Well, remember they had nothing there at all. It was 713 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: everything all most of the species were brought in there. 714 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: You got birds, you. 715 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 1: Got to hear this part. The advocates won a National 716 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: cat Management Act that would make D sexing and micro 717 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: chipping mandatory. D sexing. I've never seen that term before. 718 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: This is going to be a whole new sexual category 719 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: in this country. They're going to destroy the ecosystem over there. 720 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: This is terrible. How do you identify? I identify as 721 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: d sext? 722 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 2: Where's it all? 723 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 6: Right? 724 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 2: Coming up next, we're keeping an eye on what's going 725 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: on in Sacramento over doing something about the fentanyl crisis 726 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: in California. We're going to talk to a state assembly 727 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 2: woman and the little progress has been made on some bills, 728 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 2: most though or just being waved away by the public 729 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: safety committees. Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty live everywhere, 730 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, Hit and d SX would hurt? Woun't it? 731 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 2: Debor Mark live in the twenty four Our Cafe newsroom. Hey, 732 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. You 733 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 2: can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty 734 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, and 735 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 2: of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.