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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's going on Steelers Nation?

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, and welcome to the Drive on Steelers Nation

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Speaker 3: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: Quesh, you learned.

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson with you here for the next two hours

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Speaker 3: on this Wednesday as we continue to get closer and

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Speaker 3: closer to the real thing. And Matt, we have a

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Speaker 3: lot of real action, a lot of league news, a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff here today.

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Speaker 2: Popping around today. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I think some of it that relates to the Steelers

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Speaker 3: potentially directly, some of it that relates to their AFC

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Speaker 3: North foes. A lot of different moving and shaken. And

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Speaker 3: let's start maybe kind of with the AFC North foes,

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Speaker 3: Elements and Kyle Hamilton and the Baltimore Ravens getting a

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Speaker 3: contract extension done to keep him in Baltimore long term.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't while we're recording this, I have not

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Speaker 2: seen the exact details, but it sounds like he's going

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Speaker 2: to be the highest paid safety ever, which is exactly

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Speaker 2: what he should have asked for and what he deserves.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a great player, he is, he was

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Speaker 2: a great prospect, So get ahead of ourselves a little bit.

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Speaker 2: There's a safety Downs at Ohio State this year that

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Speaker 2: was getting the exact same buzz Hamilton was going into

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Speaker 2: Hamilton's last year at Notre Dame, and you know this

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Speaker 2: guy might be the Okay, Patriots are releasing Kendrick Bourne

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Speaker 2: to another thing online that's not that's semi new, is

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Speaker 2: worthy for potentially Steelers. But anyways, our last two shows,

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Speaker 2: including today, already has just been oh, this happened, Oh

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Speaker 2: this happened Silver absolutely So where I'm curious is where

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Speaker 2: I was going with this Downs thing is they were

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Speaker 2: both elite prospects, didn't do anything wrong, and Hamilton ends

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Speaker 2: up going to the division rival in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the first round, where people are already talking about Downs

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Speaker 2: being like a top five pick. I wonder if the

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Speaker 2: league will start valuing these guys to that level. My

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Speaker 2: hunch is probably know And it kind of comes back

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Speaker 2: to the Minka versus Jalen conversation. We've had a ton

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Speaker 2: like safeties are great to have the phenomenal one, but

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Speaker 2: you can there's other positions you'd rather invest in. Now,

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Speaker 2: from a Ravens perspective, I'm not saying, boy, this is

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Speaker 2: a dumb move the raven zone. What's talking about. No,

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Speaker 2: it's not dumb move. He's awesome. And they hit on

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Speaker 2: a pick that never should have fallen to him and

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Speaker 2: they're taken advantage of it. Good for them, and I

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Speaker 2: think people understand this. But the Ravens defense, there's really

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Speaker 2: a tale of two defenses. So at this time last

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Speaker 2: year I was very concerned about the Ravens d because

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Speaker 2: not only did their defensive coordinator go be the head

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Speaker 2: coach in Seattle, but their best two position coaches became

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Speaker 2: head coaches for or became defensive coordinators for Miami and

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Speaker 2: Tennessee respectively, Anthony Weaver and I forget the guy that

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Speaker 2: went to Tennessee's name. So they got massive brain drain

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Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. And for really

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Speaker 2: like the first ten weeks of the year, give or take,

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Speaker 2: their defense was talented, but they were blowing coverages left

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Speaker 2: and right. People were out of position. It was not

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Speaker 2: a well coached, buttoned up unit at all. Then they

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Speaker 2: go in there by and I think they pulled Dan

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Speaker 2: P's off the couch too, Who's been around the block

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Speaker 2: a thousand times a defensive coordinator, highly respected as just

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Speaker 2: like a consultant, and they started making may changes and

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Speaker 2: one of the big ones was, instead of having Hamilton

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Speaker 2: do all the different stuff that he's great at, We're

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Speaker 2: just going to consolidate things. You're going to be the

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Speaker 2: deep middle MENCA guy. Yeah, and just simplify everything. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they did things like Malie Harrison played a lot more

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Speaker 2: kind of consolidated where everyone went. You know, Humphreys played

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Speaker 2: And they simplified things and were talented and from that

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Speaker 2: point on they were really really hard to play against it,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, like if you look at their

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Speaker 2: the bye until the day they were eliminated, was awesome.

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Speaker 2: And because of Hamilton is a big reason why. And

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Speaker 2: last note, I don't think that's all they want out

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, no, that makes a lot of sense, and

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Speaker 3: that that draft selection of Malachi Starks frees them up to,

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Speaker 3: you know, allow Kyle Hamilton to be more.

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Speaker 2: Versatile, do more of the other stuff. Exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Uh, four years, one hundred point four million dollars, largest

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Speaker 4: Eighty two million guaranteed of that.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's I mean, that's that's a chunk about eighty

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Speaker 3: two percent of that that contract guaranteed, which surpasses the

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Speaker 3: previous record for guaranteed money for a safety, which was

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Speaker 3: forty five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: So he almost.

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Speaker 3: Doubled up He almost doubled up the previous Wow. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's a big commitment for the Baltimore Ravens. It is.

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Speaker 2: And I think he's the best safety in the league.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think he's Aaron Donald compared to all

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Speaker 2: the other defensive tackles in the league. Feel like he's

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Speaker 2: not double the second best guy, you know, So good

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Speaker 2: for them. They must not be worried about the mind.

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Speaker 2: He's a high character dude. He's a very very good player.

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Speaker 2: That seems a bit extreme to me, but okay, I'll

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Speaker 2: buy it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, they've they've given out some money this offseason, Derrick

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Speaker 3: Henry two years thirty million as well, Ronnie Stanley three

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Speaker 3: thirty seven million, and that's kind of their own That's

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Speaker 3: that's where they're at right now as well too. I

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Speaker 3: mean we've talked a lot about Linderbaum and how he's

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Speaker 3: lot of bargaining power at the negotiation table with the

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Speaker 3: way that those fifty year options are set up for

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Speaker 3: centers in the National Football League. So certainly a lot

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Speaker 3: of moving and shaking going on out there in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's a big deal. Okay. Also, Hamilton Linderbaum

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Speaker 2: were both drafted in the first round the same year,

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Speaker 2: same year, so it's wonderful to have two first round picks,

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Speaker 2: but then you got to pay him at the same

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Speaker 2: time too, you know, they come up at.

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Speaker 4: The same and they've both hit all the possible that's

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Speaker 4: the later right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've made multiples, they've all the snaps and starts

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Speaker 3: and everything, and so they are the highest possible fifth

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Speaker 3: year extension that you could have for their respective position group.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point. So I'm sure Hamilton's agent came

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Speaker 2: which is guaranteed, fully, fully guaranteed, and go from there.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you kind of got me. You know

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Speaker 3: Also, breaking news pretty substantial today for another AFC foe,

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Speaker 3: not AFC North, but of course the big dog in

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Speaker 3: the AFC, Chiefs wide receiver Rashi Rice expected to be

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Speaker 3: suspended for six games for violating the NFL's Personal conduct policy.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, that's the first six games of

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Speaker 4: First six games of the year.

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Speaker 2: It's weird. I have to ask that. But it came

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Speaker 2: going to go in front of a committee. Interesting. I

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Speaker 2: never understood, had never heard that before. I'm like, that's goofy.

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Speaker 2: You know, that would be pretty goofy. And actually this

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Speaker 2: is probably better for the Chiefs. You'd rather have a

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Speaker 2: guy suspended or injured to start the season when the

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Speaker 2: rest of the roster is healthy than absolutely who knows

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Speaker 2: what you look like. In week six, you might have

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Speaker 2: three wide receiver injuries and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it'd be you know, a good time to

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Speaker 2: Back exactly at least you know when the guy's coming

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Speaker 2: back like injuries. I hate talking about legal stuff, but

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Speaker 2: mister Rice got himself in some serious trouble. I mean

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Speaker 2: he had a bunch of felonies and is on camera

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Speaker 2: running from the scene, you know, Like to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I mean, six is pretty lenient. I thought it could

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Speaker 2: be yeah, eight, I thought it'd be eight, maybe more,

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Speaker 2: you know, so first six games of the year comes

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Speaker 2: back fine. In a way, he's super important to them,

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Speaker 2: Like his numbers, you know, were phenomenal before he got

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Speaker 2: injured last year. He's their number one receiver and Worthy

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Speaker 2: kind of morphed into it late in the year. Kelsey,

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Speaker 2: of course, ain't what he used to be. Congrats to

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Speaker 2: the Kelsey. So once again, you're right, he's not single anymore.

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Speaker 2: He's been on the Years Tour for a year or two.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's not great for conditioning and whatnot. But

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Speaker 2: Rice has kind of taken over the Kelsey move the chains,

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Speaker 2: middle of the field, tough guy, shorter, condensed routes, and

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Speaker 2: that's what the Chiefs offense unfortunately, has really become. They're

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Speaker 2: like one of the least vertical offenses in the league

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Speaker 2: after trading Tyreek and everyone started by we're not allowing

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Speaker 2: Mahomes to beat us with the deep ball. But they

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Speaker 2: also couldn't protect because their tackles have been so bad.

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Speaker 2: So I think they're trying to become a lot more

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Speaker 2: but not for six weeks.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, indeed not for the first six weeks.

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Speaker 3: And they've got some tough games in there, do the Chargers, Eagles,

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Speaker 3: well as hosting the Lions. So some tough ones there

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Speaker 3: in the first six games of the season for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: But they will certainly be a team that won't panic

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Speaker 3: if they were, you know, so to happen to get

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Speaker 2: I would say it's kind of best case scenario for

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Speaker 2: player and team, though, I mean, considering the infraction. Considering

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Speaker 2: the infraction, yes, I think that's that's that's early and

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Speaker 2: you can be done and you can plan for when

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Speaker 2: he comes back.

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Speaker 3: Adam feelen a little bit of a reunion for him.

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Speaker 3: Matt be and traded back to the Vikings.

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Speaker 4: What is he is?

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Speaker 3: This like a we need some coverage till Jordan Adison

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Speaker 3: gets back and he's familiar. I mean, how much does

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Speaker 3: he have left in the tank?

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Speaker 2: Not a time, probably a quality year out of him.

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Speaker 2: So I want to analyze both sides of this deal. Sure,

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Speaker 2: the are the Panthers. Panthers are a very young team

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Speaker 2: with a young quarterback, and they don't have Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: aspirations where obviously the Vikings do. The Vikings won fourteen

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Speaker 2: or fifteen games last year, and even tho they have

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Speaker 2: a new quarterback, they're in a difference.

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Speaker 4: They're in a window without it.

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Speaker 2: Without question. So Carolina drafts xavierly Get, but I think

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Speaker 2: the last pick of the first round. They moved up

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Speaker 2: from the early second into the first. A wide receiver

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Speaker 2: a year ago, and the receivers are so bad they

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Speaker 2: basically made him be the on the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 2: x man beater type and it's not what he is

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Speaker 2: big physical after the catch, get him in space. Isn't

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Speaker 2: going to deal with the porters of the world putting

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Speaker 3: We'll get into well, let's see, do you want to

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Speaker 3: Matt, We've joked about how you know certain points of

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Speaker 2: League definitely one of the big ones. And I enjoy

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Speaker 2: Now why reference his is I think he's so much

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Speaker 2: most people look at strength of schedule. Was what was

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Speaker 2: I mean, and you know, the Vikings have a different

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Speaker 2: So the way that Sharp comes up with it, it's

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Speaker 4: So it makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: He basically says Vegas is smart, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: You have you've been to Vegas before, Matt, Yes, just yes,

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's because they're winning. So when I go through

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Speaker 3: Well, totally makes sense. So I think that's a good

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Speaker 3: And so what I'll do is we'll go division by division.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna save the Steelers though.

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Speaker 3: All that important to balance and know in this. So

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Speaker 2: have the highest win total in the division. I assume

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Speaker 2: I think they have the highest league.

436
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 4: They are tied with a couple other teams, but yes.

437
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 2: So obviously there's two games they don't have to play themselves,

438
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: where the Steelers, Bengals, Browns have to play the Ravens

439
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: so that's why they're going to be But they play

440
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: a first play schedule, so they get the Chiefs, they

441
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 2: get the Bills, where the Steelers don't eleven and a half.

442
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: I mean, these are hard I mean. And the thing

443
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: that they've changed over the years is it sometimes they

444
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: would have a flat number ten nine. Now it's always

445
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: always a half. Yep. And it's so much easier when

446
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: it's a flat number, because I would always just say

447
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: to myself, Okay, is it more likely if it's seven?

448
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: Is this a six win team or an eight win team?

449
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: That's a big difference. I mean, if I had to

450
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Speaker 2: pick one of those two pass where this one. If

451
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: it's like, is this a seven win team or six

452
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: win team, that's harder to jump.

453
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Speaker 3: Like a Raven's a ten win team or a twelve

454
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Speaker 3: win team? Right, you know I'm or an eleven win

455
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 3: team or a twelve win team.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm leaning towards over with this team, and they

457
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: might be my Super Bowl pick. I know, no one's

458
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: gonna love hearing that. I just have immense respect for them.

459
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 2: We talked about it at the beginning of the show.

460
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: All the guys they've retained, there's a lot of continuity.

461
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: They didn't get hit hard by coaches, leaving Lamar's coming

462
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: off an awesome year just next year with Monkin. Now

463
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: there's things to worry about. Their ow line's not perfect,

464
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: and what if some of the guys they've invested in

465
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 2: Henry all of a sudden look old. And I bet

466
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: the Steelers split with them, you know, I mean, they

467
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: probably win four games in the division, maybe five. I

468
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 2: don't think that's crazy. Maybe they split with Cincinnati as well. Yeah,

469
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: and they do play some tough games. I know they play.

470
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Speaker 2: You mentioned they played the Chiefs, you know, early in

471
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: the season. I'm gonna go over on the Ravens.

472
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Speaker 3: Though, I am going to go over as well too.

473
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Speaker 3: I I can. I mean, I think you can pretty

474
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Speaker 3: pretty clearly see this team win in twelve games.

475
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Speaker 2: And that's and that's all that it would take. I know,

476
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: the schedule, there's seventeen games now, not sixteen, exactly ideal

477
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: for this operation.

478
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: They even started out a little slow last year and

479
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: then and then just turned it on incredibly. If they

480
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Speaker 3: get out of the gates quick this year, I think

481
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 3: it'd be hard not to see them winning at least

482
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Speaker 3: twelve or thirteen games. As much as the listeners will

483
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: not enjoy hearing that, I think we'll both go over

484
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: with Baltimore.

485
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: So another thing, I'm not gonna get super nerdy on this,

486
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 2: but if I was really to do this like professionally,

487
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: I would also look at how healthy every team was

488
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: last year. The Ravens were the healthiest team in the

489
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Speaker 2: league last year. I have a pretty good fortune in

490
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Speaker 2: that department that won't repeat itself. You know, like we

491
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: talk about like one score games going back to the

492
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: mean health stuff is almost impossible to repeat. If you're

493
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: the least healthy team most undred percent, that's just a

494
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: lot of luck for the most part, one hundred percent.

495
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: Although last year they also had the best rest advantage

496
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Speaker 2: of any team in NFL history, and that too, they

497
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: don't wonder why they're so healthy.

498
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Speaker 3: You know, their schedule fell very well, I mean much more

499
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Speaker 3: favorably than some others.

500
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Speaker 2: Exactly.

501
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Speaker 3: They did still have to play the you know, the

502
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Speaker 3: three games in eleven days or whatever it was as

503
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 3: well too, but like one of theirs was against the Giants, exactly.

504
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: You know a little bit of.

505
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Speaker 3: A different task than than than you know, a Super

506
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Speaker 3: Bowl contending.

507
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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to take this long on every

508
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: team the division. I want to stick with pretty happy.

509
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: But it seems weird to say, but they might actually

510
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: have an advantage over last year a kicker. Remember how

511
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: bad Tucker was and how him does sound weird to say,

512
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: but you're right.

513
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 3: He struggled, struggled mightily at the beginning of the season especially.

514
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they could not count on kicker and

515
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: hurt them a lot last year. It's a very good point.

516
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: Oh man, what if they went back to just finding

517
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 3: another absolute weapon at that position.

518
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: Knowing them they probably will.

519
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: Up next in the AFC North Cincinnata the Bengals after

520
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: going nine and eight each of the past two seasons,

521
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 3: they're over under is nine and a half this year,

522
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: so right.

523
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 4: Right there and one of the higher ones in the league.

524
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: Seventeenth easiest schedule, so they are just about dead center

525
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 3: and right in the middle for strength to schedule.

526
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident on the under really, I know that

527
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: sounds crazy. Unlike the Ravens, I don't have a ton

528
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: of respect for the organization, the coaching staff to get

529
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: the most out of things out of what they're dealt

530
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: I don't think the defense is going to take this

531
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: big leap forward with the defensive coordinator change. Now, keeping

532
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: Hendrickson is huge. If they were trade in for draft picks,

533
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: the under would have been much more of a slam

534
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: dunkan and it.

535
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Speaker 4: It'd probably be eight and a half instead of nine

536
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 4: and a half.

537
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: And so now they at least have a difference maker

538
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: on defense, you know that they wouldn't have before and

539
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: everyone could get hurt. And I could have said this

540
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: about Lamar, and we could say it about Allen, but

541
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: if Burrow misses any time, or Higgins or Chase, they're

542
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: just so reliant on like four players and top heavy teams.

543
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: We saw us with the Niners last year. Top heavy

544
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 2: teams worry me for betting overs, just because yeah, right,

545
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: you just don't have a lot of backup plans and

546
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: it's a long season. I bet they's probably split in

547
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: the division. I think that's saved three and three. Yeah,

548
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: four and two is not crazy. They could sweep the Browns.

549
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: They could sweep the Browns and split the other two.

550
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have three or four wins in the division,

551
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: so that gets you pretty close. But still I'm going under.

552
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: So you make a lot of I think very valid

553
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: points there mister Williamson.

554
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: Thanks.

555
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: My initial thought process when I saw Cincinnati at nine

556
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: and a half was they went nine to eight last

557
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: year with a historically bad defense. Yeah, if their defense

558
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: can just be historically not bad.

559
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: Get to twenty third, that'll give him.

560
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: They'll give him one extra win.

561
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: Was Bengals Nation Radio. I'd be preaching, can we just

562
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: get the twentieth best defense in the league, then we're

563
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: going to the playoffs, then we win eleven? Right, right, right?

564
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: So I was leaning a little more towards that direction.

565
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: I get you.

566
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: If their defense is the twentieth or the twenty first

567
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: or the twenty third best in the league.

568
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 4: They could win one extra game and go ten and seven.

569
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

570
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, your point about being incredibly top haaf, I mean,

571
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: if Hendrickson gets hurt.

572
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: Wolf right, and any of those four.

573
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: Obviously the quarterback, but that's the same for any team.

574
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: In the conversation, I think I might go over though,

575
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: I think I might peck Cincinnati to go ten and

576
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: seven this year.

577
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 2: Something that helps your cause too, is like they did

578
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: have some bad luck, like part of because the defense stinks,

579
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 2: but all those games that they scored thirty plus and

580
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: lost the most NFL history again, you know what I mean,

581
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: Like that's that's kind of an anomaly that worked against them, you.

582
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: Know, yes, yes, indeed, finally across the little different story

583
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 3: of this nor hear Matt, A little different story with

584
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: this team. The Cleveland Browns the lowest over under in

585
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: the National Football League this year.

586
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: They're dead last at four and a half. There. They

587
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: have a tough schedule from what I gather too.

588
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: Their schedule let's see no, actually second, sorry, yeah, second

589
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: hardest in the league, only behind the New York Giants,

590
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: who play in a division, you know, the Super Bowl

591
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: champions and the Cowboys.

592
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: Six games Pittsburgh, Cincy and Baltimore. I'm still going under.

593
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: I know that's.

594
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: Obscenely I'm still going under two. I mean four wins

595
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: or more quarterbacks played this year, right.

596
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: I think those quarterbacks are going to go like crazy.

597
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: We late. I mean, maybe they get one win in

598
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: the division, but I might go for zero. I mean,

599
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: if we just did over under win totals in the division,

600
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: it's probably can they get right, Yeah, If they can

601
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: get one, that's still they need to come up with

602
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: four more wins for the course of the year. And

603
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: the big thing about them is that we laid it

604
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: out a week or so ago. But they play the

605
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: Steelers in week six. The first five games.

606
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 4: Are they can start, they can start and easily.

607
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: And they come in Pittsburgh after going to Europe without

608
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: a bye, and they could be ohero and five coming

609
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: off an awful road trip overseas to go to Pittsburgh.

610
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: They don't even get a home game. Most most teams,

611
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: that's a brutal break. And if this team's own six,

612
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but.

613
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: They're firing everybody and it's a it's a wasted season.

614
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the defense has some good components, but like

615
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: they gave up at like weeks nine or ten last year, Like,

616
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: I'm sick of this. We're on the field all the time.

617
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: They could give up by week four or five on defense,

618
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: and then it's like where, how where we're at? Yeah,

619
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: I'm going under. I'm going under.

620
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: I am with you on that one. And in fact,

621
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: I don't think it even really takes much when you

622
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: consider they have the second hardest schedule in the NFL.

623
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: It's awful and they're like you said too, if you

624
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: saw if at the start of their schedule, if they

625
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: played a couple lesser one or.

626
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: Two wins out of the first five or six.

627
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: You know, keep Stefanski, keep some confidence, keep some something

628
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: to play for.

629
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: Every one of the quarterbacks gets kind of hot and looks like.

630
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 4: They start owing five to oh and six. Man, even

631
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: if they.

632
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: Starting three and four, they start one and four, one.

633
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: Five, right, bench, everybody five, like, it's still gonna be.

634
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and trust me, I live through it. That ownership

635
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: will just fire every buddy.

636
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, right, we'll fire everybody, and they'll

637
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: turn it over to one of their rookie quarterbacks.

638
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: You know, then some coordinator that doesn't know what he's doing,

639
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: and you know, live through.

640
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: It and not turning it over to like a first

641
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: round a lot of pedigree rookie quarterbacks to a third

642
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: or a fifth rounder.

643
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 4: Schedule is going to be easier, and the schedule does

644
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: not get in.

645
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy that five and twelve we lose

646
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: our bet. But I by I'm pretty confident on the

647
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: under here.

648
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: I think i'd even if if the if you maybe say,

649
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: do they win three games or five games, I'd lean

650
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: towards three.

651
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: They got lean towards three. Yeah, it's that bad.

652
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: So I will take the I will take the under

653
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: here with the Cleveland Brians. Yeah, we'll keep this exercise rolling.

654
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: Continue to look around the rest of the AFC when

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Speaker 3: we return on the other side, doing some over and unders.

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Speaker 3: Here on the drive Wesheeler and Matt Williamson, it's all

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Speaker 3: happening on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Stealer's Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Over and Under closing down the hour here as we

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Speaker 3: just went through the a f C North. Now, Matt,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what do you say, Let's go a.

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Speaker 2: F C East. Does that are here? Yep.

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Speaker 3: We'll start with the Buffalo Bills, who are one of

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Speaker 3: those teams atop the highest over unders. Along with Baltimore,

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00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: Kansas City, Philly and Buffalo. Those are the four at

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Speaker 3: the top of the NFL's food Well, the.

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00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: Rest of division isn't that difficult? No, Their schedule is

669
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: not that brutal for a first place team, and.

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Speaker 4: They actually have the fifth easiest I according to Warren sharpy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's my most confident wins their division.

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00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: I agree. I mean there's gonna be if you had to.

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00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: Put your life on one division winner in the NFL

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00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: this year.

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00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: And even if Josh Allen got hurt, I mean for

676
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: a game or two, they still could have enough of

677
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: a lead there that they'd be probably all right. I

678
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: think they could. I mean they probably win five in

679
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: that division and could sweep it. I mean that shock

680
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: me at all. So eleven and a half doesn't sound

681
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: that crazy to me. I think I'm going over. I'm

682
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: going over as well. And one of my reservation I

683
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Speaker 2: said in the last segment, I'm leaning towards betting the Ravens

684
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl or picking the Ravens to

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00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: be the Super Bowl champion. I think everyone in the

686
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Speaker 2: AFC is probably gonna have to go to Buffalo, though,

687
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: And that's no fun. That's no fun.

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00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 4: That's no that is absolutely not any fun.

689
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: Their path to hosting a playoff all the playoff games

690
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: is easier than Kansas City's or the Ravens or anybody else.

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Speaker 3: Do you you want a little extra juice on that,

692
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: you want a little fairy dust on that?

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00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, this is going to be.

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Speaker 3: Their last year at oh yeah, high Mark Stadium, New

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00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: Era Stadium, whatever, it's called at their stadium in Orchard Park.

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00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 4: This is the last year before they open up the

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Speaker 4: new stadium.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that place, and I mean this, Matt from the

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00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: most respectful place in my heart.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that place is a dump. Oh and I love it.

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00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: I was there twenty years ago and it's like right

702
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: in the middle of a neighborhood and it's weird.

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00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: It's like going to a college campus. The stadium is

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00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: old and dumpy and in the middle of nowhere, and

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00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: every piece of grass and asphalt around the stadium turns

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Speaker 3: into a tailgate lot on game day.

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Speaker 2: And it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: There's no Matt.

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00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 2: It's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Like I we went up there.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've done a couple of Steelers games up there,

712
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: but the playoff game in particular, all the games we've done,

713
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: it's like a college atmosphere. They stand the whole game.

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00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: It's those crappy bleacher seats. Yeah, like nobody they barely

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00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: have any sweets or boxes. Nobody is just there to

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00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 3: take some pictures to put on their Instagram and.

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00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 4: Go to the football game.

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00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: But they are there to scream and yell for the

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Speaker 3: Bills and if they're gonna get that in the last

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Speaker 3: year of that stadium, you got to go through that place,

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Speaker 3: that would be a hell of a home field advantage.

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Speaker 2: So it happened to watch two football documentaries last night.

723
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: I watched the Latest Hard Knocks, which is Buffalo, and

724
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: I was watching on Netflix. There's a Troy eight then

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00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: Cowboy documentary like that that era and they beat the

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00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: Bills and back to back Super Bowls, and but they

727
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: just you see the fan base a lot in both

728
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: those back then when they were super hopeful, and you know,

729
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: they go to four in a row and they lose

730
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Speaker 2: all four of them.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine. I can't imagine that.

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Speaker 2: But in the Latest Hard Knocks, their last preseason game

733
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: is in Tampa, and a lot they showed Bills fans

734
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: traveled to Tampa for it, and they're even just showing

735
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: this one tailgate where they bring in snow machine in Tampa.

736
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: It's insane, and they're jumping through tables they always do,

737
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: and it's like, I kind of if the Steelers can't

738
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: win it this year, a hundred percent, they've earned it,

739
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, And Josh Allen's a cyborg.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent, and they have had no sports success

741
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: in that city hockey team. Ever, the hockey hockey team's

742
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: been the worst in hockey for twenty years.

743
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: They're like Pirates bad.

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00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: They're Pirates bad, They're Browns are Jets bad, you know what.

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00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Like the worst franchise going totally and everything else.

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00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: They don't have anything else.

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00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: I don't think Buffalo has ever won a major championship.

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00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: Have they? I mean not those not in those two sports.

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00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: So unless there was like an I think they had

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00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 3: an ABA team back in the day.

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00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: Or something that, but no, no, they don't.

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00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: They have a minor league baseball team, but not you know,

753
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: not not an MLB team. Yeah, that place is bonkers.

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00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah it's a dump, and I mean that in the

755
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: best way. It's like, you remember what it was like

756
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: going to the Igloo for a hockey game. You weren't

757
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: there for a social evening out, but you went to

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00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: watch the sport and cheer and yell and be involved.

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00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: Where Josh Allen jersey and all that good stuff. Exactly right.

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00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 2: So quick little side note just from that that hard

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00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: knocks is Allen is one of the most remarkable players

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00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 2: to me because he came in the league. I didn't

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Speaker 2: like him coming out Wyoming, and I do I'm not

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00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: embarrassed to say that because he was highly highly highly inaccurate.

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00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: His first year in Buffalo really was not a good player,

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00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: and even his second year wasn't great. But because of

767
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: these private quarterback coaches and all like the biomechanics and

768
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: all the stuff that's going on in today's NFL, these

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00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: guys get more accurate at the highest level, which never had.

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Speaker 3: That was one of those old kind of scouting trumps, right,

771
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: was if they're not accurate in college, they won't be accurate.

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00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: Accurate against the Steelers and Ravens.

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00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: Josh Allen is the poster child, poster.

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Speaker 2: Child for that. And they showed a really good segment

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00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: of all the Bills quarterbacks working with this biomechanics expert

776
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: last year or this past week or whatever, and basically

777
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: he's like, boy, Trubisky's working on I didn't understand half,

778
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: but his hips are opening better like I wanted to.

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00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: You must have been working in the offseason, Mitch, because

780
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: this is better. Huschelle whose dad was Steve Buschell, who

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00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: worked for the Steeler. He's got a baseball background and

782
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: you can see it when the way he throws and

783
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: ah blah blah blah, and he's like Alan, this guy

784
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: is like jaw on the ground because he's like if

785
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 2: I tell him to make one tweak, he just does

786
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: it and his body changes and it's like he's like,

787
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: this is unbelievably unusual. Not only is he incredibly talented,

788
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: but if you tell him like don't swim this way,

789
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: swim this way, or don't drive a car this way

790
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: or do it this way, okay, I'll just change, you know,

791
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: Like it's just like mind ever matter, you know. I mean,

792
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 2: he's he's really easy to root for. I completely agree

793
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: with that. Yeah, and I kind of want him to

794
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. I mean, if youeers can't, I.

795
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Speaker 4: Went, Josh, listen you and I don't have to be

796
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: ashamed in this.

797
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 3: No, I'm with you if if a gun to my

798
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: head Steelers can't win the super Bowl, but I have

799
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 3: to pick who does.

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00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 4: Congratulations Buffalo into your time.

801
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: That oh for four I almost forgot. I mean that

802
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: was like when I was graduating in high school. Dude,

803
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: they were an awesome team and they went over four.

804
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: Four years in a row, and it would be one

805
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 3: thing if like they had won one since then or

806
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: something like that too, But they haven't been back and

807
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: haven't been particuled well, I mean now they've been particularly close,

808
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: but until recently haven't been particularly close.

809
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: But they've had some heart slightly too. Matt.

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00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: If WVU went the four straight national championship games and

811
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: lost all four of you, you wouldn't be able to

812
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: find me.

813
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: No, you had to be hanging off a bridge.

814
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: I'd be in witness protection or something like somewhere.

815
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 4: I'd drop off the face there.

816
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: If now WV will never make four national championship games

817
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: and rest, I don't have to worry about that problem.

818
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: But my goodness, right, God bless those people.

819
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: And I know we'll eventually, over the course of the

820
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: week or next we'll get to all these over and

821
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: win totals. But once in a while we go on

822
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: a tangent. And speaking of Warren Sharp, I think it's

823
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 2: even his pinned tweet. He did a deep dive of

824
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the playoffs basically during the Mahomes

825
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: dominance era like since Brady give or take, and even

826
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: if you just did a search Warren Sharp, Josh Allen

827
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: playoffs and his numbers. It's all numbers related, but Josh

828
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: Allen there it is.

829
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Speaker 3: His playoff performance is statistically elite, ranking number one and

830
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: EPA per play and success rate. Since the year two thousand,

831
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: he's basically twenty five touchdowns to four interceptions, four.

832
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: And away including Mahomes, the best playoff quarterback in the

833
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: twenty twenties. The only reason that their their defense has

834
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: been they allow like thirty points a game and against

835
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Speaker 2: Mahomes and Lamar and all these tough games. I mean,

836
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: Allen in the playoffs has been as good as anyone

837
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: in history, Bradshaw, I mean, like, is it not him?

838
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: So?

839
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: I mean some of these people are like Lamar is

840
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: never gonna win a big one, you know. Josh Allen

841
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: the one.

842
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: It's a team game guy as a team yeah, as

843
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 3: a team yeah yeah. And he's doing his part certainly

844
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 3: more than let's go to warmer climates, matt and down

845
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: to Miami the Dolphins seven and a half? Is there

846
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 3: over under number ninth easiest schedule.

847
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, is gonna have pretty nice schedules.

848
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 4: In the National Football League. I still might go under

849
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 4: man like.

850
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 2: Leaning towards under.

851
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: They're are two injury away from disaster.

852
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: Well, they're terrible. When he's hurt, and he gets hurt

853
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, that's it's tough.

854
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like it's like the Christian McCaffrey conversation,

855
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 3: but with a quarterback, which is even.

856
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: So tougher to have some fundamental problems that I really

857
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: worry about. And I'll give them credit this for over

858
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: the last three and sixty five days, they've actually done

859
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 2: a lot to change it. But it's still too much.

860
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: So I do a lockedwn NFL podcast every Friday, and

861
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: we have this running joke that the the Dolphins have

862
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: way too many ferraris and not enough dump trucks, you know,

863
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: like they never invest in lineman anyone that runs a

864
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: four to two to sign me up.

865
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: They're very South Beach and that's great.

866
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: When it's warm in Miami, but eventually you're gonna need

867
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: to snow go out to Buffalo. I mean, think about

868
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: who you're playing against.

869
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: In New York and New England right right right, Pittsburgh

870
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 3: and Kansas City and Baltimore, and.

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Speaker 2: Their head coach is a great record in the first

872
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: two months of the season, and then you can't run

873
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: the ball and you can't move any bodies and your

874
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: speed gets nullified.

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00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 4: And your fri doesn't work in the pouring down right.

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00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: And the oil changes for ferraris are expensive, and Tyreek's

877
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: got a hamstring and everybody's little and fast. And so

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00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: they did go get Kenneth Grant and James Daniels and

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00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: you know, like they they addressed it this year, but

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00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: it's still the fundamental build of it. And plus I'm

881
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: getting like no good vibes on that team. You know,

882
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: they're trading the Ramseys and John News and people went

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00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: out and this Tyreek even going to finish the season there,

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Speaker 2: I'm under Yeah, I think probably two wins in the division,

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Speaker 2: maybe three.

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Speaker 3: I think McDaniel is on my short list of the

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00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: first guys who could be seeking new employment.

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Speaker 2: He could be a great coordinator somewhere. Oh, I don't don't.

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00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: I don't think he's I don't think yeah, Like, I

890
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: don't think he's way out of his element or out

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00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: of his depth or anything.

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00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: But I think this is I mean, there'll be a

893
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: lot of teams like this. A year or two ago,

894
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: they pushed all their chips in before they paid to

895
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: and went and got Ramsey and Tyreek. And sometimes you

896
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: push chips in, you don't.

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00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: Win indeed often, indeed more often than not, honestly, because

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00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 3: it's very hard to win.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a break here.

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Speaker 3: We'll finish out the AFC East when we return on

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00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: the other side, the rest of the AFC as well.

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Speaker 3: Hour in the books, Hour Ago, Wesheuler, Matt Williamson. It's

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