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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks.

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Speaker 2: Look at this now, Tim to Tim, this is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It is Monday, the twenty second

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Speaker 1: of June twenty twenty, and it is time, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: for Morning Combat. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of

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Speaker 1: your hosting duo. The gentleman on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the screen is your other host. He is the well,

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Speaker 1: my partner in crime, the conspiracy to my theory. You

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Speaker 1: know him from CBS Sports, among many other check cashing opportunities.

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Speaker 1: It is the one and only Brian Campbell. Brian, how

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Speaker 1: was your father's day weekend?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Fantastic, fantastic, Luke, good times, great oldies, a lot

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Speaker 2: of son a lot of children, great stuff. But you know,

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Speaker 2: fired up as heck. You know, a long battle with

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Speaker 2: this guy right here. But I've put him back together

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Speaker 2: as I have my own feelings and mental health over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. So like Na's all I need is one mic.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to go a little change of the scenery

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Speaker 2: back here channeling my spirit animal. You want a champion

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Speaker 2: because like her, we both have a bone to pick

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Speaker 2: with you, Luke, and we're savages. So let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get fired up.

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Speaker 1: What did I do to you? I didn't do anything

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Speaker 1: to you. I don't know. I don't know. Well, very good.

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Speaker 1: A couple of housekeeping notes. As always, thumbs up on

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Speaker 1: Thursday you can check out Morning Combat, Strikeforce Classics BC

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Speaker 1: and I we speak to Scott Cocher, Mara Ronalo, watch

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Speaker 1: some Strike Force fights, get some backstory and some analysis BC.

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Speaker 1: It's a good time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the most underrated shows since Freaks

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Speaker 2: and Geeks. Luke believe that we're doing big things with

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Speaker 2: the MK rocket ship. So please don't be like Christy

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Speaker 2: mccauleff and the eighty six crew. Get on board, stay

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Speaker 2: Please don't make me drop more awkward eighties and nineties references.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, and like and like Freaknick. It's

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Speaker 1: not going to be here forever, so get it while

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Speaker 1: the getting's good. BC.

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Speaker 2: Hey Luke, Sorry did to interrupt here, but you were

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Speaker 2: kind enough to ask about my father's day. You know,

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Speaker 2: you're a young father. You're an old man, you got

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Speaker 2: old balls, but you're a young father. Did you and

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Speaker 2: the and the and the the beautiful little girl enjoy

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Speaker 2: your day? Did you call up old angry ass Rob

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Speaker 2: Thomas and have a three am reunion? What was it?

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Speaker 1: I saw my dad and my family for the first

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Speaker 1: time since the pandemic started. Can you believe that it

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Speaker 1: had been a long time since I'd seen them? February

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Speaker 1: for some November for others. So my dad got to

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Speaker 1: so she could walk. So it was a great day yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you asking it really meant a lot, so

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Speaker 2: All you know. I'll follow that up with an out

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Speaker 2: of line question, Abuela and Rob Thomas, any fireworks a sparks,

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Speaker 2: you're a weirdo.

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Speaker 1: The answer is no, and I'd like to start the

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Speaker 1: show please, Okay, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, very good. We go to topic number one, BC,

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Speaker 1: and there's no better place to start than the show

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Speaker 1: that was on Saturday night UFC on Vegas three or

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Speaker 1: UFC on ESPN eleven. BC. Let's go to you first

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Speaker 1: on this one. Curtis Blades defeats Alexander Volkov via unanimous

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Speaker 1: at the post fight press conference, BC, Dana White buried him,

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Speaker 1: fight that way, you look dumb. BC. Does Dana White

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Speaker 2: Yes, under the grounds of the game that Dana White

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Speaker 2: pay what do you think? Look, he went off. He

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Speaker 2: in the quarantine. The money is there. Either pay us

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Speaker 2: Dana's got a point on this. If you are going to,

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Speaker 2: as Dana said, talk shit right, you do have to

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Speaker 2: back it up. Since it's Dana sim and in Dana sandbox,

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Speaker 2: the real way to make a splash is to walk

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Speaker 2: of that fight, as you mentioned, was fantastic from Curtis Blatz.

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Speaker 2: The problem is, you know, he didn't really finish strong.

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Speaker 2: to say, like, don't wrestle entertain us, but that's what

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Speaker 2: in these situations, Luke. After a big win. It's been

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Speaker 2: some of the criticism that people have given mozvieed All

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Speaker 2: and others that are saying, like, the stuff you're saying,

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Speaker 2: the stance you're taking is great, but when it doesn't

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Speaker 2: in that moment, it doesn't mean Blades should have in

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Speaker 2: he believes that if he defeated Volkoff, which he did,

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Speaker 2: Ganu coming up later this year in December. Here's the problem, though,

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Speaker 2: you not achieve that leverage by getting a knockout, you've

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Speaker 2: rules of how UFC politics work, this was a failure

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Speaker 2: of a weekend for Curtis Blades, But put that aside

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Speaker 2: But yes, you lost the Dana game.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a number of points there you made.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a failure of a weekend, But

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Speaker 1: You want to do that, you got to go out

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Speaker 1: there and put your stamp on a guy irrespective of

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Speaker 1: get out of that. Now. I will say this number one.

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Speaker 1: way to market himself. Like Fu, I'm going to fight

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Speaker 1: It's hard to like land a big shot on the

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Speaker 1: And so I think what you saw was he's got

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Speaker 1: good survival instincts. He's tricky from underneath in a surprising

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Speaker 1: and obviously on the feet he's a force to be

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Speaker 1: him hard to put away Ammick late again the Lewis fight. Notwithstanding,

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Speaker 1: he can just be hard to look good against, whether

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Speaker 1: he wins or he loses.

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Speaker 2: So that's fair.

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Speaker 1: It was a it was a i'll just end on

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Speaker 1: this BC. It was a confluence of events where yes,

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Speaker 1: did Curtis Blades play the game as best he could have?

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Speaker 1: Probably not? Are there pieces going forward that you could

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Speaker 1: see maybe he could surf on. Yes, And let's understand

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Speaker 1: it's just hard to look really super dominant against.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, look, let's give Volkoff his due. That

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Speaker 2: fight looked like he was underwater for three rounds and

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Speaker 2: he turned it around. He's six seven, he's thick, and

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Speaker 2: he may be rushing, but he's certainly not in a

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Speaker 2: hurry there, Luke. So we saw some exposures with Blades

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Speaker 2: committing to that style of trying to rag down him,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, you saw him afterwards. He couldn't

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Speaker 2: a debacle, right, He didn't get screwed on the cards

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Speaker 1: I would take his chances at doing so, very realistically,

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Speaker 1: I had people who have trained with Roschkoff reach out

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Speaker 1: I suspect that Robert Drysdale was really sort of keying

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Speaker 1: in MMA. But the reality is this, I would challenge

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Speaker 1: Robert Drysdale, and I would say, Robert, how much direct

429
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Speaker 1: training by formal institutions, whether those be training courses or

430
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Speaker 1: an athletic commission have you had in terms of the

431
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Speaker 1: responsibilities and roles of cornering. I don't mean just on

432
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Speaker 1: the job training, I mean formal training. And I bring

433
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Speaker 1: that up for a reason BC. I do not think

434
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Speaker 1: Robert Drysdale's a bad person. I think he's a very

435
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Speaker 1: smart guy, and I think and I know he cares

436
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 1: very deeply from Max Roskoff. But I found out something

437
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 1: over the weekend. I did some digging. You cannot find language,

438
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: either with the ABC or any formal institution in combat

439
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 1: sports about best practices around cornering. You can find language

440
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: about what their potential role is and where they have

441
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 1: to be, Like how many corners can you have for

442
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 1: a title fight versus non? How many get to be

443
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 1: in the cage between rounds? Can you throw a towel

444
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,479
Speaker 1: or not? Right, there's slain things like that, but they

445
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: don't actually tell you how to do the job correctly

446
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: and what you consistently see. And this is the thing

447
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 1: I learned from speaking to commissioners over the weekend. The

448
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 1: fighters who who become cornermen, they consistently say, uh, oh,

449
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing, But the A never had

450
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: formal training and B in terms of being a corner

451
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: and B as a consequence, they fail to realize that

452
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Speaker 1: part of what you're doing is being a health advocate. Now,

453
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 1: I grant BC, it's complicated because you're putting ice on

454
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: a guy, you're cooling them off between rounds, you're giving

455
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: him strategy, and then you're sending him back out there

456
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: to fight. Right, I mean, how can you be a

457
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 1: guy's health advocate if you're doing that, because at some

458
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: point you have to be aware that you cannot cajole them.

459
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,239
Speaker 1: And Tony robbins them into victory. At some point the

460
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: fight is over. And now what you have to assess

461
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: is their long term health, their long term viability, and

462
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Speaker 1: what the realistic chances are here. And I bring this

463
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Speaker 1: up BC. Look at what Roschkoff did. He goes back

464
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 1: to the seat, His head is facing his face. Excuse me,

465
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: he's looking down at the mat. He does not have

466
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Speaker 1: an alert body. There are times when a coach can

467
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Speaker 1: say to you, hey, man, fire up, do what you're

468
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: supposed to do here, get out there, and it can

469
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,959
Speaker 1: motivate someone, but not when they have body language like that.

470
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 1: And he says, I was trying to, like, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: tell him to be his best. And I would want

472
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Speaker 1: a coach to do that. Dude, If he is telling

473
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Speaker 1: you nine or ten times to call it and he's

474
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: looking at the mat, he is no longer listening to you.

475
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: Your speech is not working, and you must have recognition

476
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Speaker 1: about that. And you noted, And I would agree, like

477
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: Tony Ferguson heading into the fifth round was taken away

478
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: worse beating, But Tony Ferguson is in a super elite lightweight.

479
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: Here you had a guy with fifteen fights at Austin

480
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: Hubbard against a guy with five And by the way,

481
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: Austin Hubbard had to fight Dobby Homosh and other killers

482
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Speaker 1: when he first got to the UFC. So to me,

483
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: it's like, do I know fighting like Robert Drysdale. No,

484
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 1: I do not, But for fifteen years I've been listening

485
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: to good boxing. Corners and commission officials tell me what

486
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: good cornering is, and it's paying attention to body language.

487
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: It's understanding your fighter's responses. If the first thing he

488
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: does is when he gets asked by the referee, are

489
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: you done? You say yes, he wasn't listening to you.

490
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: You've got to have recognition for this because if you don't,

491
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: even though the beating in the second round b C

492
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Speaker 1: was admittedly not the worst beating I've ever seen, if

493
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Speaker 1: you're not up here, dude, that third round was gonna

494
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: it was gonna be very bad for him.

495
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Roskoff was gassed out. Obviously he was mentally defeated.

496
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Speaker 2: That he didn't he wasn't able to sustain the success

497
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: he had the first time. And look the way that

498
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: he sat dejectively in the cage afterwards. I think source

499
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: short of doubles down on what you said that he

500
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: could be somebody mentally who gets very hard on himself

501
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: and can can pull out of a fight. So look,

502
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: it's it's like there, you know, it's like a scale heer.

503
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: It's like, I do understand the coach wanting to rattle

504
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: that beast out of him because he had a chance

505
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: to win a very important fight again, Rocky Pennington round

506
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: five down four nothing, did not have a chance to

507
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: submit or knockout Amanda Newnits. It just was what it

508
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: was in that spot. But yeah, their limits to the

509
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 2: amount of knows you can ask for. At that point,

510
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: it didn't look like he was looking out for his fighters'

511
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: best health interest. Luke Jay wants me to move on,

512
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: But do you think there's anything to the follow up

513
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: sort of debate on Twitter that UFC matchmaking purposely matches

514
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 2: younger guys with great potential way too hard, too early

515
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: as a way to draw loyalty out of them because

516
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: once they lose, they have no leverage and they're always

517
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Speaker 2: fighting to get back up the ladder.

518
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Speaker 1: That seems highly conspiratorial if you listen to Dana White.

519
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that never happens or it's

520
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: never happened, but he listened to Dana White. And I

521
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: believe this. His manager, who's Brian Butler, who's one of

522
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: the more successful MMA managers, apparently was always hitting up

523
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: Sean Shelby to say to this guy, hey, look, we

524
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Speaker 1: have a new kid, and he might be the next

525
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Speaker 1: big thing. And as you mentioned in that first round

526
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Speaker 1: and even parts of the second, to a degree, you

527
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: could tell he's got some serious skills to be reckoned

528
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: with if he can figure out the other parts of

529
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Speaker 1: the competitive challenge. And so they were probably saying, hey,

530
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Speaker 1: let's just get him out there as quick as we can.

531
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Speaker 1: You don't make a lot of money on the regional scene,

532
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But I just think in the end,

533
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: people don't realize how good Austin Hubbard was because he

534
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: had an eleven or four record coming in here. But

535
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: if you look at the guys he had lost to

536
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: in the UFC, there were absolute savages, and he had

537
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: performed quite ably against them. He had had way more experience,

538
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: and he had come from LFA. I just think, you know, listen,

539
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: they're just trying to make the people believe that their

540
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: guy is John Jones. There ain't that many John joneses man.

541
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: There ain't that many guys with a handful of fights

542
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: that can come in there and beat Andre Gusmau. It

543
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: just doesn't really exist. So I may understand the pressure.

544
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's not early UFC days when you can

545
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: go in there, you know, with no pro fights and

546
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: just but you have a background in one specific martial

547
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: art and try to mix it up. I would like

548
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: to see whether it's UFC officially adopting their own minor leagues,

549
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: and they kind of kind of have with the Dana

550
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: White Contender series, and obviously they're very close with LFA,

551
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: which in some ways is a feeder league. But I

552
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: would like to see less of, you know, people, even

553
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: like the eminem guy Chase Hooper, getting getting rushed in

554
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: there against that quality of opponent at nineteen when it's

555
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 2: really not worth it.

556
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: All right, we move on now to point number three

557
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: by Jesus. I gotta tell you this is one of

558
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: the most We're an amazing fight to me, A Fight

559
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: of the Year contender easily. So Josh Emmett and your

560
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: co main event at one hundred and forty five pounds.

561
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: He eventually stops Shane Burgos. I think it was the

562
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Speaker 1: third round. Wow, dude, what an unbelievable performance. B see,

563
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: I was so blown away. So the question is, now,

564
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: after he wins, where does Burgos fit into the title picture?

565
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: Or so that the picture at one forty five. So

566
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Speaker 1: if you look at the rankings BC, he was at

567
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Speaker 1: eight or nine.

568
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: You mean Emmett.

569
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Speaker 1: Emmett. Sorry, what did I saying? I said somebody else? Sorry,

570
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: Josh Bergoss, Sorry, I apologize, Josh Emmett. If you look

571
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: at the rankings again prior to the fight, Emmett was

572
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: sitting in around eight or nine, which is probably fair

573
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: given what he had accomplished and everything else. But I

574
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: just think there's some realities about Josh Emmett that people

575
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: need to wake up to. I think what he'll get

576
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: out of the win is somewhere in or just outside

577
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: top five. It depends on a couple other things shakeout,

578
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: which means he's at worst maybe two more wins away

579
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: from a title shot, maybe even one. But the reality

580
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: about Josh Emmett that folks really need to wake up

581
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: to is he is a little bit older than some

582
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: of the other sort of talents out there at one

583
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five pounds, but with that has come

584
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: a lot of wisdom. His game has transformed over the

585
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: years because he always had good wrestling, which folks forget about,

586
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: and he always had pretty decent movement, great cardio, he

587
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: can go the distance, and he had that setback against

588
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: Jeremy Stevens, but folks forget he was winning that Jeremy

589
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: Stevens fight before a controversial knee and then everything else

590
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: that happened afterwards. Beyond that, he is a mac truck

591
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: of a power puncher. He has a modern game. He

592
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: doesn't rattle the media cage BC, but Josh Emmett is

593
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: easily Perhaps no, I'm just gonna say it, he's the

594
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: most underrated guy at one hundred and forty five pounds.

595
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: Just yeah. He did come after the media a bit

596
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: in his post fight interview, which I you know, I

597
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 2: give him the grounds to do it because he felt

598
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: he was counted out so much. Look like Deco, what

599
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: you said, absolutely badass fight and why I loved it

600
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: even more than your average sort of brawl where you're

601
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: like fight of the Year contender, is that it really

602
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: wasn't a brawl. It was a technical masterpiece. It just

603
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: so happened that they loaded up with savage intent on

604
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: every single punch and really both poured out the jog.

605
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: You know, this was a championship level opportunity for each

606
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: of them to go from the contenders to the elite

607
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: title contenders, and man did both bite down and go

608
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: for it. You gotta give Burgos all the credit, even

609
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: if Dana White butchered his name and called him BeRTOS

610
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: for the entire postfight press conference. Emmett kind of is

611
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: a featherweight shank Shane Carwin, you know, like more skilled,

612
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: but he's got that intimidating vibe and can load up

613
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: and land the big power shots. You also might have

614
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: the best tats in UFC and Looke that's say something.

615
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of really bad tats in UFC. I'd

616
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: take that package of tats if I wasn't fear of needles,

617
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: maybe over anyone else. But look about the full, well

618
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: rounded game. Yeah, it's his time, it's his time. It's

619
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: it's a little bit I want to say disappointing, But

620
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: it's not that the featherweight division is suddenly so friggin loaded.

621
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: You're not only gonna get Max Volkanowski tube, but it's like,

622
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: what do we do with Otega Zabat, you know, Corean Zombie.

623
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, on and on, there's Yaya Rodriguez,

624
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: There's a few other killers in there. He certainly enters

625
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: that group with this win. I'd agree with you that

626
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: it's probably a win or two more before he would

627
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: get that title shot. But this is where I stop

628
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: and say, guys are just wired differently. Right to have

629
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: the damage that he took to his left knee in

630
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: the first round the first minute of that fight, and

631
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: look I didn't see afterwards. Was it a torn acl

632
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: Was it just something got stretched out? I don't know.

633
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: But to be able to block that out, still use

634
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: that leg, be effective the rest of the way, be

635
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: so mentally tough, stay in his game plan. Why he

636
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: was getting lit up at times against a much longer

637
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: fighter with a very accurate boxing game. This was a

638
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: hella impressitive performance from Josh Emmett. This was a Hey,

639
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: if you thought him you know him, you better know

640
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: him now because he has evolved into something very serious.

641
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: He's a title threat against anyone, Luke, and he has

642
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: that bite down toughness that seems to be just next

643
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: level from the regular group. Burgos kind of showed you

644
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: the same thing and defeat. He's still got, you know,

645
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: a lot a high ceiling on where he can go too.

646
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 2: But yes, I want to kind of get Josh Emmett

647
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: fast tracked into a giant fight next to make a

648
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: statement because he's ready in every single appearance Luke, knowing

649
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: that his window is a little bit smaller than the others,

650
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: and knowing that he kind of went through hell in

651
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: the aftermath of that lost to Stevens, that he's going

652
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: for it. He's going to go for the damn title.

653
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: And you know, Dana loves that, you know, the fans

654
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: love it. And I want to see how far he

655
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: can go with that, with that menacing style, because shout

656
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: out to his well roundedness, that's how he got here.

657
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: But his meal ticket is to walk you down and

658
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: knock you the hell out. And it's going to be

659
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: fun to see him against the other elites.

660
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean, no one appreciates someone daring to be great

661
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: more than UBC, which is exactly what he's doing. And

662
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: to be honest, sometimes when the fighters call out the media,

663
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm always like, I just sort of roll my eyes.

664
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: I did not roll my eyes at this one because

665
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: I knew what he was talking about. First of all, disclosure,

666
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: I get him as right as I get him wrong.

667
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm fifty to fifty on all these but I did

668
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: think josh Emmon was going to win. Not that anything

669
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: against Shane Burgos, but I just sort of have been

670
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: watching what what Josh Mmon is up to the fact

671
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: that he has the power punching the chin as you saw,

672
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: even after all the damage he's taken in from the

673
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: Jeremy Stevens, I won't call it debacle, but calamity is

674
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: sort of in its own right. And then all the

675
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: other pieces of fainting in and out movement that he's

676
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: got do. He's got one of the best games at

677
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five pounds, and I just thought, man,

678
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: he's going to be a hard guy to deal with.

679
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: Plus you knew from like the Michael Johnson and the

680
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Ricardo Lamas fight, the dude, I mean, he can thump.

681
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: Now you see yet more evidence of that so I

682
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: always thought he would do it. But here's what I mean.

683
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean about the chip on his shoulder. He was

684
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: right to note that he's been looked over because he

685
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: has not just by the media, but the media sort

686
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: of as a proxy for the larger fan base. I

687
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of them have woken up to

688
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: that reality either. So the media and the fans are

689
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: guilty together in this, I think. And if you can

690
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: take a chip on your shoulder and convert it into

691
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: competitive fire, if you can take it and make it

692
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: useful for you, which is what he appears to be doing.

693
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: Knowing his as you indicated, his window is not as big.

694
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: He's not twenty five years old, he's not Sean O'Malley.

695
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: But he's underrated and he would like to be recognized. Dude,

696
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: he is going to make you remember his name. He

697
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: did the thing. Granny had a bit of a dance

698
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: partner that kind of made it exciting as well, and

699
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: Shane Burgos. But he did the thing we were talking about.

700
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: Curtis Blades maybe should have done right. He actually went

701
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: out and did it. So when he calls out the

702
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: media for not giving him some love after the things

703
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: he's been through and after the things he's also accomplished.

704
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't have any issue with it at all.

705
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: Look, here's what's interesting. I don't know what he made,

706
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: or what both of these guys made for this fight.

707
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: I just didn't check. Did you happen to check what

708
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: they were disclosed for pay?

709
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Not yet?

710
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sure it's underwhelming in a lot of ways.

711
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: They were the co main event. Everybody knew coming in

712
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: that this was going to be the firecracker. This was

713
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: going to be the fight that that would win the weekend.

714
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: If we can't fix the pay structure our outright, and

715
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: if if, even if you don't love the idea that

716
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: you can double your salary with a win and that

717
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: you can get a bonus. I almost think one change,

718
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: Luke is make that Fight of the night bonus like

719
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: a lot of money like that I think would be

720
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: a little change to things that everybody would love. Because

721
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: we know Dana and Company and the ghost of Joe Silva,

722
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you've probably even got a bad story

723
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: of him violating your human rights. They want knockouts, they

724
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: want you to be a savage. So instead of a

725
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars savage bonus to an already pretty low

726
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: salary for a you know, co main event opportunity. Why

727
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: don't we just like triple or quadruple that, because that's

728
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: where you f C wants in the end, that's what

729
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: fans want in the end. I know that style isn't

730
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: for everybody. That's why if you've got a Curtis Blade style,

731
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: you may just go up the ladder and see if

732
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: you can win the championship, and that's how you get paid.

733
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: But for these other guys, to see Shane Burgos fight

734
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: the way he did, and knowing he's only got the

735
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: show money plus a bonus, I'd like to see him

736
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: get like a four hundred thousand dollars bonus. Luke. I'm

737
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: not the one signing checks, but maybe if we just

738
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: put go all in on that, maybe everyone else can

739
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: win a little bit more. Because there are savages, There

740
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: are fighters out there like Youanna, who will pour out

741
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 2: the entire jog at any time, and I think above

742
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: all those are the people that deserve the type of

743
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: payment even more, Luken, and already broken payment structure, I

744
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: would agree.

745
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it does or it doesn't incentivized fighters

746
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: to fight in that way. But to your point, at

747
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: least it would reward the ones who did. I like

748
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: the idea. It's pretty cool, all right. So let's move

749
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: on now to the weekend not so much ahead, but

750
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: the weeks ahead. Will come to the weekend ahead in

751
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: just a moment, but first let's talk Fight Island BC.

752
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: So we had a bunch of announcements related to this.

753
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: There's so many different angles to get to the place

754
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: I'd like to start on. This is the middleweight fight

755
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: that was announced, which is one of the headlining fights

756
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: for one of the Fight Night cards. So the ones

757
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: subsequently following two fifty one, Darren Till officially back in

758
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: action against Robert Whittaker b C. What is on the

759
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: line for these two.

760
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: You know, potentially a rocket ship to the title after

761
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: we sort out the Outasania Paulo Costa situation. I mean,

762
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: it's that big of a fight, and it does echo

763
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: kind of what we love about the UFC that Robert

764
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: Whittaker could lose his championship by knockout, he could go

765
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: through some very personal sort of hurdles to get back

766
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: into a situation where he feels comfortable fighting and oh, no,

767
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: there's no get well fight. There's no you know, here's

768
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: a veteran Cowboys Seroni type to dust you back up.

769
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: It's you're going there against Darren Hill, and you know,

770
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: with high risk does come high reward. I mean, if

771
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: Robert Whittaker knocks him out, he's right back at the

772
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: doorstep of a title opportunity. It is a bad ass

773
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: fight in a bad ass summer of fights. Thank you

774
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: UFC for basically sorry I burke right there, for basically

775
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: putting the quarantine in an Americana or going north south

776
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: on them and no dental dem just going for it, right,

777
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: just frigging going for it. This is I mean, look,

778
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about Pourier and friggin Hunker. I mean,

779
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: these fights are ridiculously good. I love me some Till Whittaker.

780
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna be bananas. Till has a chance in that

781
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: fight to prove to you that he can fulfill all

782
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: the expectations that that UFC had for him from the

783
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: very beginning. Luke, sign me up. This is gonna be

784
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: a great summer. All the other sports they can't figure

785
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: it out sometimes for good reasons, but uh, UFC still

786
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: they're bringing the big stick and they're banging.

787
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: Luke Well, I mean when Daniel Bragg's about how they

788
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: have figured it out and the other sports haven't. Yes,

789
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: but it's sort of like saying I got my bicycle

790
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: to work and you haven't figured out how to build

791
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: a car yet. I mean, one task is difficult, very difficult.

792
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: The other task is insanely difficult. So they're not equivalent tasks.

793
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: But okay, fair enough. They've got the machine operating and

794
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: running in a way that their other combat sports peers

795
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: certainly couldn't do. And I give them credit for that.

796
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: As it relates to Tilla versus Whittaker BC, I don't

797
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: know how you could. This fight is amazing. It's really

798
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: amazing because we have this situation with Robert Whittaker where

799
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: he not only lost his last fight, he got stopped,

800
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: lost his title, he had a bunch of time off

801
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: due to injuries. Then the fight he was supposed to

802
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: be and fell through for a lot of different reasons,

803
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: but we find out later that it was predominantly related

804
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: to just burnout basically. And here he is saying he's

805
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: on the other side of this and he's ready to

806
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: get back to who he once was. I'm very curious

807
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: to see what that looks like because I remember when

808
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: Adasignja beat Whittaker. I thought he would not the way

809
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: he did. But I also said to myself, this cannot

810
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: and certainly will not be the last two times these

811
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: two face off. So does he get right back on

812
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: the horse and get another fight, Because you have to

813
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: imagine if Dana wants to do a full crowd, which

814
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: you can probably do in New Zealand, we'll see how

815
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: things go. You could do a rematch between Adasanya and

816
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: Whittaker there, provided he gets passed close to That would

817
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: be a huge fight down there, and it wouldn't interfere

818
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: with pay per view here in terms of how the

819
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: timing of the card might work, So that would be huge.

820
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: On the other side, you talk to English media, they'll

821
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: tell you Darren Hill is the heir to Michael Bisping's throne.

822
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is who is the

823
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: fighter coming out of England? Now that can be what

824
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: Michael Bisping was, which is obviously he won the title,

825
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: but the most important celebrated MMA fighter of his era,

826
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: who most media would know or MMA fans would know,

827
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: who's the standard bearer for the flag. Darren Till is

828
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: supposed to be that guy, and he obviously had his stumbles.

829
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Now he rebounded against Kelvin Gastlemin that was huge, but

830
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: he's got to build on this and if he can, Dude,

831
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: look out, the sky is the limit for that. We've

832
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: talked about it on the show in Boxing. Dude, the

833
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: UK is the king of boxing right now on multiple levels,

834
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: whether it's the size of the crowds in the arena,

835
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: whether it's the showmanship, whether it's the number of good athletes,

836
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: whether it's belts across weight classes. They are the reigning

837
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: kings of boxing. And if Darren Til can tap into

838
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: that enthusiasm on the MMA side, I'm telling you, I'm

839
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: not saying he'll do everything that Michael Bisping did, but

840
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: he's got an opportunity to build on a place in

841
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: time where British boxing is maybe as hot as it's

842
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: ever been, so there's a combat sports fever and he

843
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: can be the standard bearer for his era for MMA

844
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: and really do something very special as a talent and

845
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: as a box office draw.

846
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it, Luke. And you know I

847
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: did do a little bit yay. The UFC right there,

848
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: because I mean it from the standpoint of how loaded

849
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: this summer is in d say steepe dc BA sorry

850
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: three a big part of that, but we do have

851
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: to talk about look what we call it like it

852
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: is we praise you, well, we'll tear you down too.

853
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 2: Did you see that Fight Island promo they ran over

854
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: the weekend.

855
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: It was weird.

856
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: It kind of looked like a like, one day, Dana

857
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: White's probably gonna run for president or governor of Nevada

858
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: or something. It kind of looked like a rally video

859
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: for to gain momentum. I think people rightfully had issues

860
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: with this. The first forty five seconds to a minute

861
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: of the video is about how everyone ain't doing anything

862
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: and all the things were stacked against Dana, but he

863
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: carried the flag up the hill and again in some

864
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: ways he did. But that was an old battle. That

865
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: was the three month ago battle. Can we put this

866
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: back on the road. You won that all right? That

867
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: already happened. Remember Jacksonville, we already tai Chi Palace were

868
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: already there. Now we're started keeping that narrative alive for

869
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: Fight Island, and we're actually showing fighters standing on the

870
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 2: edge of an island looking out the water. I'm sorry,

871
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: fight island eight on real island. We've already been through this.

872
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be in an arena. Dana made fun of

873
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: us for believing Dana you all right, we thought that

874
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: by listening to you, this is your fault. But I

875
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: do agree that if you're of the belief that UFC

876
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: has worked too hard for its own advantageous reasons to

877
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: keep Dana and the UFC brand as the face of

878
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: the whole promotion rather than individual fighters. Although obviously there's

879
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: been times where McGregor Rousey or whomever has has catapulted

880
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: above the marquee. This is a great example of that, right,

881
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 2: that's how they keep the fighters down and stiff armed

882
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: and keep them in line because Dana is always the draw.

883
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: And watch that video. The draw ain't Gilbert Burns versus

884
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: Kamara oosmil I'll tell you that much. The draw is

885
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: that that Maverick Dana White for better or worse.

886
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. It was so weird. It's because if

887
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: you look at the slate of fights mentioned Till versus Whittaker,

888
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: which is just a great fight, but if you look

889
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: at these cards man up and down. There are some amazing,

890
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: amazing bouts two fifty one completely stacked, and yeah there's

891
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: some filler in there. But okay, you know, I mean,

892
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: if they're not doing it better than anyone who is,

893
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. So I'm not here to complain about

894
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: Fight Island other than it was silly and whatnot. But

895
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: the promo, it was like, dude, you can just tell man,

896
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: Dana says, like to the media, I don't care what

897
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: you think. You clearly care. It clearly bothers him. It

898
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: clearly is a thing that really gets under his skin.

899
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: It's why certain media members get blackballed. It's why they

900
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: make promos like this. And of course it wasn't just

901
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: the media that he was up against. It was, you know,

902
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: a series of other forces. But you're right, I mean,

903
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: whatever the merits of the battle on April eighteenth, those

904
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: weren't the battles fought in early May, and they're certainly

905
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: not the battles being fought now BC. Matt Fravola got

906
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: removed from the hard on before Saturday and we're not

907
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: even talking about it. And the whole thing was related

908
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: to COVID because they've got it seems like, now, you know,

909
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: we can never know for a one hundred percent, but

910
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: it seems like they've got, as we said last week,

911
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: really good safety protocol in place. So yeah, no one

912
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: seems like no one's hammering them for it.

913
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: It seemed like an unnecessary victory lap. That's really what

914
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: it seemed like. But I look at the at the core,

915
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: we're not having something to talk about on this show

916
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: unless Dana was that proactive and aggressive and crazy, and

917
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: some of it is his nature, some of it is financial.

918
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: You better believe that. But here we are, and I

919
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: am glad we are here. Okay, I'll deal with a

920
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: freaking promo video, all right, I'll deal.

921
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: All right, all right, very good. I mean, it's not

922
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: gonna get me to watch or not watch. We're gonna

923
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: be there no matter what.

924
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: Jay keeps chirping at me. By the way, I'm going

925
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: to bring you Rayah Hall on this show and we'll

926
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: and we'll we'll get him his you know, we'll, we'll we'll.

927
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be justice served via spinning

928
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: back kick.

929
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: Can I get to the fifth point? Please? All right?

930
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: Sorry?

931
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: And my final point?

932
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 2: Sorry you have you have other jobs.

933
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: Go fifth and final point next week. I should to

934
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: say not even next week. At this point, it's Monday now,

935
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: so Saturday is gonna be UFC on Vegas four or

936
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: whatever the hell the nomenclature is. But all you have

937
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: to know is that main event, ladies and Gentlemen, is

938
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: damn sensational. Dustin Poarier is back for the first time

939
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: since his loss to Habib Nimrika Madoff, back in Abu Dhabi,

940
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: speaking of which he is taking on Dan the Hangman Hooker, OKBC.

941
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: What is at stake for the winner between Poarier and Hooker.

942
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: This there's a badass fight in the most baddest ass

943
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: division in the history of MMA at one time. Seriously

944
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: look it up, Luke. This summer is freaking loaded. There's

945
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: no fight this summer that means more than DC and Steepey.

946
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 3: But this is the best fight of the entire summer.

947
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: I seriously mean that, fighter versus fighter. I defy you

948
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: to find one that is better. I can't freaking wait

949
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: for this this look. If you not only win this fight,

950
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: you're in that upper.

951
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: Core of again historically deep and loaded division with a

952
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: beab on top, with Justin Gage knocking on the door

953
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: with Connor lingering with a few other killers, rightfully in

954
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: need of a major fight. But if you win this

955
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: fight spectacularly, you might get on that rocket ship. You

956
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: might get something out of this world massive as your reward.

957
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: This is a big boy fight. This is as good

958
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: as Dan Hooker has looked, as much as we've liked

959
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: him bounce back from that loss to Barbosa. Everything he's

960
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: done as of laid has been golden. This is the

961
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: deep end of the pool. And you know, could he

962
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: catch Poorier on the wrong night, on the wrong time

963
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: in his career, long wayoff, coming off of surgery, coming

964
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: off a one sided loss. Yeah, you're getting plus money

965
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: on Dan Hooker. You know, I'm not a big betting guy,

966
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: but this might be the right angle to go. This

967
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: might be the right time to fight Dustin Poorier. But

968
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 2: either way, I love how they match up, their striking style.

969
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: I love everything about this. If you win, you're you're

970
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: going up. If you win big, you might parachute in Luke.

971
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're gonna get hbib next or whatever,

972
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: but you may. You may push the others aside. The

973
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: winner of this certainly isn't going to be demanding Connor money.

974
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: I don't know when, and if Connor's ever gonna fight again,

975
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: you might be able to slide right in and get

976
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 2: a massive opportunity. Is there anything when you look at

977
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: the sort of x's and o's of it that has

978
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: you leaning either way right now?

979
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: Luke, I have to think more about it. But it's

980
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: what makes us fight so great, as you indicated are

981
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: the stakes are sort of the sort of like the

982
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: two guys who are quiet except when they're not and

983
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: when they're not look out kind of vibe. And the

984
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: contrast in styles because you have a guy who can

985
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: do it all but is a little bit more kickboxing

986
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: based in Dan Hooker. You got a guy who can

987
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: do it all but is a little bit more boxing

988
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: based obviously South Paul, as well in Dustin Poarie. A

989
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: poarier pound for pound, might be one harder hitters at

990
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five pounds. Hooker, on the other hand,

991
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: very quick, make snappy decisions, throws a lot of the

992
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: knee coming up the middle, some sort of unorthodox things

993
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: that a lot of other guys don't throw, and so

994
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: for those reasons, you're like, Wow, man, this is just

995
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: a hell of a fight. Plus both guys have shown

996
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: a tremendous chin at one hundred and fifty five now

997
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five, when they were both badly depleted,

998
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: not so much. You move them up a weight class

999
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: and they're hard to put away when even when you

1000
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: land on them. So there's just, I mean, an enormous

1001
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: amount here to Like the last thing I'd say about

1002
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: this BC, it's also worth mentioning Dustin Poirier has never

1003
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: lost to in a row. Ever, It's never happened. So

1004
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: if you lose two in a row, I'm not saying

1005
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: it's the end of your career, of course, but it

1006
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: would certainly mark something that's never happened. He has been

1007
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: defined not merely by some of the good fights that

1008
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: he has been in or some of the great fighters

1009
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: he's defeated. He has also been a function of how

1010
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: much do I bounce back from adversity. The answer is

1011
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: routinely quite well. The last time he had a lost

1012
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: prior to the Number CAMADEF fight was the Michael Johnson fight,

1013
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: And after the Michael Johnson fight, he went on the

1014
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: best win streak of his career, and that's where he

1015
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: in fact claimed the interim title. Dan Hooker is looking

1016
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: to build into something like that, having first defeated Paul

1017
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: Felder and now if you can get the dustin Parier Scalp, dude,

1018
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: you are going to be on that shortlist. Then again

1019
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: we go back to it, New Zealand might be a

1020
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: place where they can have full on arena shows. Well,

1021
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: what would be better than a show with City Kickboxing

1022
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: and they've got Brad Quake Riddell, They've got Israel, Adasania

1023
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: and maybe some Dan Hooker as well. They would tear

1024
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: the roof off that bitch in Auckland. So it's a

1025
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: huge opportunity for a lot of different players here.

1026
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: I picked up something in what you were saying there

1027
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 2: about Poorier. This is certainly not comparative equally to let's

1028
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: say the position Tyron Woodley was in going into that

1029
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns fight we just saw where that was a

1030
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: legitimate crossroads fight. You will tell us which direction your

1031
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 2: career is heading by how you perform. Would you say

1032
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: this is a sleeper crossroads fight for Pouria, there's some

1033
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: elements in that Luke where he's not devastated with a

1034
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: second straight loss, against another elite guy. But he's also

1035
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: at that sort of turning point where you become a

1036
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: celebrity name or you or you keep going back up

1037
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: toward that title.

1038
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little bit of that, right because one

1039
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: he's never lost to in a rows I indicated. Two,

1040
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, at lightweight, you've got big names kind of

1041
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: sitting at the top, right, and you've had him there

1042
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: for a long time. Your Connors, your Kobeeb's, your Tony's,

1043
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: and Tony is still up there, but he did lose

1044
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: and Justin has now sort of asserted himself there. And

1045
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: here's what I mean. It's like we keep talking about bantamweight, right,

1046
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: how great bansamweight is. I don't know who's gonna win

1047
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: that title come two fifty one, or who's gonna fight

1048
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: for afterwards, and it'll be Stirling, I guess, but you

1049
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: know who's gonna win. I can't predict he's gonna be

1050
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: the bantamweight champion two years BC because Jesus Christ, like

1051
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: they're just going to keep asserting them on one another

1052
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: in a very competitive way. There's a lot of parody

1053
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: at the top there, I believe, even with number goat

1054
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: made off this might be true, but certainly outside of him,

1055
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: there's a ton of parody there. There are guys who

1056
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: are bad matchups for Connor. Connor's a bad matchup for

1057
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: some of them. I still think Tony can beat elite lightweights,

1058
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: by the way, Dustin Poirier, as I mentioned, never coming

1059
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: off of a second loss, a Dan Hooker here, he

1060
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: comes out of nowhere to start stomping on fools. Like

1061
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: if you lose two in a row, it's not just

1062
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: a setback, but all these new faces and names start

1063
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: to claw ahead, and so you how much harder is

1064
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: it to then get back because you're not competing against

1065
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: the old names that were up there when you were

1066
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: kind of up there. It's the old ones, but some

1067
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: of them are gone. There's a bunch of new ones now.

1068
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: The turnover is so high that any loss is really consequential,

1069
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: especially two in a row.

1070
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true, Luke. You want to update the

1071
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: people on your aerodynamic haircut playing of jins.

1072
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the old barracks cut from the wife.

1073
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: You know, could use a little help, but I'm doing

1074
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: the best we can.

1075
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: D I gave myself the fourth quarantine fade. Uh, wife

1076
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: hates it, but you know whatever.

1077
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing Listen. It's DC didn't hit phase two

1078
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: until today and I was looking like a shaggy dog.

1079
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: I needed some help. I'm not sure how much help

1080
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: I got, but I'm not going to complain. It was free.

1081
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: You get what you pay for BC. You get what

1082
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: you pay. Yeah, you do.

1083
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: And since I'm a voice to a man of the people,

1084
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: I want to be the voice of the people on

1085
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: the show. A lot of people wondering what your what

1086
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 2: your COVID mask of choice? What's the design on the front?

1087
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: You have the d C flag, What do you have

1088
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: a what do you have a picture of your daughter?

1089
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1090
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: No, I actually I think I have one hang on

1091
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: I So I saw that the well, I don't know

1092
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: if I have it on me. Well, the answer is damn.

1093
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: The answer is I saw the folks at one of

1094
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 1: my well, my favorite sports team is Real Madrid. They

1095
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: are in Spain. They have all their gear outfitted by

1096
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: Hugo Boston when they're traveling and then Adidas when they're

1097
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: sort of in training gear and A makes a Real

1098
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: Madrid mask designed for this current moment. You can actually

1099
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: go to Adidas dot com and get one. So I

1100
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: got a pack of three Black Mask for Real Madrid

1101
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: slash Adidas. How about that?

1102
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 2: All right? Viva football? Go ahead?

1103
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well with that in mind, BC, it's

1104
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: a time when we have to answer to the people.

1105
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: You ask us questions every Sunday on Instagram at Morning Combat.

1106
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: So let's get to an now, BC, it is time

1107
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: for dms from dogs. All right, BC, this comes to

1108
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: us first from at Rodriguez works with a Z. What

1109
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: was harder for Blades, the fight or the interview after?

1110
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was rough. Look at that was rough in

1111
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: terms of in terms of great moments in interview history.

1112
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 2: Here he had trouble. There was one point where I

1113
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: actually thought he was going to gas out of the interview.

1114
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: I thought he was just gonna be like, that's it,

1115
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: that's it. So I thought I thought Mazagatti was gonna

1116
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: jump in and that would have been it, you know

1117
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1118
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: Like, okay, or I'm gonna defend blades, defend blades. I'm

1119
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: gonna defend blades a little bit. Yes, he was tired. Okay.

1120
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: He does have a speech impediment. It's not bad, but

1121
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: it is noticeable and he texted my producer yesterday. His

1122
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: whole lip is stitched together. It wasn't as bad as

1123
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: the oveream lip split to Rosenstruck, but it's it's not

1124
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: money and it's all swollen and shit. So like between

1125
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: you know, some of the speech challenges, which I'm not

1126
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: making fun of him for it. You know it's not easy, uh,

1127
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: being dog tired and your lip being not together. I'm

1128
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: gonna cut him a little bit of a break BC.

1129
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: Okay, r Rudo, Rudo, got you, got you?

1130
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? So next from Jack with three ks,

1131
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: which is never a good look, and then an underscore

1132
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: who would win in a fight? BC? Your wife or mine?

1133
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, my wife does have the h the old

1134
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: school Irish side of her.

1135
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: But what's what's the tail of the tape? How tall

1136
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: is she?

1137
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 2: Five seven?

1138
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty that's pretty tall for a woman. Uh.

1139
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be who could win between

1140
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: me and my wife? You know, I might might be

1141
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 2: even money at times, and that not just kidding, but Luke,

1142
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: you know, not to completely stereotype people, but your wife's

1143
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: a spicy Latino. She's a beautiful woman. I'm sure that

1144
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: you know she can tear an eyeball out. Am I racist?

1145
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: No? No? Oh, yes you are racist, but not for

1146
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: saying that. Also, my wife trained jiu jitsu for years.

1147
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: She's pretty talented actually, so for that reason alone, I

1148
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: would say maybe my wife. But I will say this,

1149
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: if your wife has a stiff jab, my wife is

1150
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: only five to one, she's tiny, so okay, So so

1151
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: if she can pop the jab in her face, you know,

1152
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: my like her chances. But if he gets on the matt,

1153
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: my wife would probably win.

1154
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: That's interesting. This is an odd cares even for my standards.

1155
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 2: This is an odd conversation.

1156
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: I know J picked. I guarantee you that fucker J

1157
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: picked this question to be like I'm gonna do so

1158
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: dissension in the ranks.

1159
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, J just can't. Jay is just itching for a

1160
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: live mic, so we can tell us about that time

1161
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: that he uh that he rolled with your Iyah Hall.

1162
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: Right, all right, So next we go, looks really mad?

1163
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: Can you see Jay? He looks really mad?

1164
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: Well, he's not wearing his He's not wearing his white glasses,

1165
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: which you know can only be a coincidence. It's dude,

1166
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: was Jay the guy in that band l m f

1167
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: AO Party? Rock is in the Hasston.

1168
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1169
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 2: What was the name of Jay's been no Escape? Yes? Yes?

1170
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: Which was which was the reality of Uh? Do you

1171
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: think he had a sugar daddy, a lou permlin in

1172
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: his life? Who uh you know, you know? Uh?

1173
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he only wishes he could have been abused. That's

1174
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: the kind of sick mind that Jay has. All right,

1175
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: Aurelius ninety two. Who is your favorite TV show, Dad

1176
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: and slash husband? This person writes mine is Kevin James

1177
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: from King of Queen's BC. I have a good answer

1178
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: for this one.

1179
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: All right, what do you guys? Hit me up? Hit

1180
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: me up.

1181
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: It's gotta be al Bundi from Married with Children. Let

1182
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: me explain this to you. Married with Children you think

1183
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: family Guy or American Dad is edgy, It's not. Married

1184
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: with Children is a show they could not make today

1185
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: because it's a failed man who hates his life. He

1186
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: hates his wife, he hates his kids, they all hate him.

1187
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: He wishes for divorce, and he makes fun of his

1188
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: I'll just leave it at this. His eccentric neighbors and

1189
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: the self loathing, the outwardly loathing, and the retreat to beer.

1190
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest shows ever. My dad and

1191
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: my mom had a very contentious divorce, and I'll never

1192
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: forget this. BC. My dad does not watch television like

1193
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: it just does not. It does not happen. But the

1194
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: only show he would ever let us watch when we

1195
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: would go and stay at his house is Married with Children.

1196
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: It is the only American sitcom or whatever you want

1197
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: to call it that I ever saw make my dad laugh,

1198
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: and it made him gut laugh. It's the only one.

1199
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we watched it as a family, and I remember

1200
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: in fifth and sixth grade I was the only kid

1201
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: in my class who was allowed to watch it. But

1202
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: great stuff. My favorite TV dad of all time is

1203
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: Dan Lauria, who played Kevin Arnold's dad in The Wonder Years,

1204
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: which I think just like encapsulated so many of the

1205
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: dads I grew up with, like come home from work,

1206
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: so damn angry wife waiting there with the with a

1207
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: mixed drink. As he grabs it, you can't talk to

1208
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: him for a couple hours. He only speaks in grunts.

1209
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: But that show is my favorite show of all time.

1210
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: That's a classic show. Do you remember, specifically, Luke, when

1211
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: Kevin's dad took Kevin with him to work at Norcom

1212
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: that day and got completely undressed in front of his

1213
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: son by his boss and just had to take the

1214
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: l So one of them. I mean, there's so many

1215
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: great episodes in that show's history that could make me cry.

1216
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: That could, you know, bring out a lot of emotions.

1217
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: Seeing the dad have to take that Allen from the sun.

1218
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: That was a tough one.

1219
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: I did not see that one, but that sounds not awesome.

1220
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: Is there any dad we're forgetting? Uh? Bill Cosby? Of

1221
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: course he is?

1222
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: He talking about Bill Cosby or Cliff Huxtable. Which which

1223
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 2: side is Jason Port here?

1224
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: If there's anyone else? I'm not sure? Yeah, all right?

1225
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: So next one from Liza or Liza underscore Razu, what

1226
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: is the best snack to eat along a six pack

1227
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: of cheap beer? BC? This person, I personally think nothing

1228
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: beats nachos.

1229
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: There is. Yeah, No, I like the spirit of this

1230
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: question because obviously, you know, there's certain snacks that go

1231
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: great with wine with a with a top shelf, I

1232
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: p A. But if you're drinking a cheap American lagger,

1233
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: you know, I think cool ranch to ritos certainly matches

1234
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: up very well with that. Luke I don't know if

1235
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: you get down like that. Uh, chicken wings? Have chicken

1236
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 2: wings and American lagger ever gone bad together?

1237
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, no, that's a good that's a

1238
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: good tip. I always feel like you can't go wrong

1239
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: with I don't know, meats and cheese, like with beer, right,

1240
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on the kind of beer. He says,

1241
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: cheap beer. Okay, so let's say what you know, beast

1242
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: and beast lights something like that. Uh, I'm gonna say.

1243
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: Well, how about bush heavy? Bush heavy is a solid

1244
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: can if I'm going can, if I'm going American lagger,

1245
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: can I'm going bush heavy, all right?

1246
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: Or just pbr? PBR is like an easy option there,

1247
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: It's probably the same. I don't think. See, I would

1248
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: say you can't have a burrito because that just sits

1249
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: in your stomach. You gotta have finger foods, right, like

1250
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: Nacho's their point fry. You know what I like? Fries? Good? Good?

1251
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: You know some nice, salty, greasy fries. I guess something

1252
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: like that. Something you can pick individually, piece by piece,

1253
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: not like a giant burger or a giant burrito.

1254
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: That just got it, you know, I got it now,

1255
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: I didn't have this until twenty ninth, the year of

1256
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: Our Lord twenty nineteen. So all of our West Coast

1257
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: fans are like, yo, but what are those those fries

1258
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: you get in La that carneus outa fries? You know

1259
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about.

1260
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: You mean carneost is a steak, I know, but carneous

1261
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: out of fries where you basically get a container filled

1262
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: with fries, beef, cheese, onions.

1263
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 2: It's just like a schmorgus morgue of hell, and it's

1264
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: it's sloppy and disgusting, and there's grave. It's like it

1265
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: becomes so wet at the bottom that it forms like

1266
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: this thick gravy of all the ingredients in there that

1267
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: is probably the perfect everything, the perfect.

1268
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: So it's like just like a it's like an LA

1269
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: version of poutine.

1270
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: Exactly, and you get it from like a you know,

1271
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: a truck on the side of the road exactly. I

1272
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: can't believe I lived my whole life and didn't have that.

1273
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: I've been to Rochester, I've been to John Jones Country,

1274
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: I've eaten the garbage plates, which is one of the

1275
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: greatest sloppy food inventions ever. Look, if you ever heard

1276
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 2: a garbage plate. It would change your life. It would

1277
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: change your draws because you'd be you'd be yeah, yeah,

1278
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: have a garbage plate, Luca. It's basically they serve it

1279
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: on a paper plate and they put like beans, mac

1280
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: and cheese, fries, a couple burger patties, cheese. I mean,

1281
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: they just basically take everything that's great about gas station

1282
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: food and they serve it on a giant paper plate

1283
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: and you buy it for like twelve bucks, and you're like, oh,

1284
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna eat this whole thing. And then halfway through

1285
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: your you know, there's there's stuff coming out of all orifices.

1286
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: It's it's classic Americana.

1287
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: Uh, lasson on this. You ever had tachos? No, so

1288
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: it's nachos, but there's no corn chip. It's tater tots.

1289
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: And then you put sour cream, cheese, you know, whatever

1290
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: else you want to put on there, and then you

1291
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: eat it with a fork. Tachos. It's pretty money. It's

1292
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: pretty good.

1293
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, yesterday for a Father's Day, went to a restaurant.

1294
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: I've learned, Luke and developed that blue cheese on a

1295
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: burger is like, I can't believe I didn't do that

1296
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: my whole life. Like you're gonna have a you can.

1297
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: You can have a gourmet burger with whatever you like

1298
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: on it, that's fine. But when you put blue cheese

1299
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: on it, Luke, you go into the I think I

1300
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: get high while I eat it, right, I think I

1301
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: have a food orgasm. I think like the things happened

1302
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: to me.

1303
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: Right, So I gotta I gotta give my brother a

1304
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: shout out. We went to his house yesterday again, the

1305
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: first time I saw my family since the pandemic. Although

1306
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: this dude, you all think I'm hard, asked about COVID.

1307
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: He wouldn't let us go inside. We had to sit

1308
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:18,959
Speaker 1: on his porch.

1309
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm not exacterly, Luke's brother, What is wrong with your family?

1310
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: List what I said? That's what I said. I was like, dude,

1311
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: we can't. He let us go into piss, but we

1312
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: have to have a mask. I'm not shitting you. I

1313
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, dude, whatever did you anyway your shoes

1314
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: off to I mean no, he actually not, no, he

1315
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: didn't make us do that because he had the dog there.

1316
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: But I will give him credit for the cooking. Remember

1317
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: my my family closed their restaurant right before the pandemic.

1318
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: And uh, so my brother can cook his ass off.

1319
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: He actually bought short ribs, pulled the meat and then

1320
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: ground it himself and then use that to make burger patties.

1321
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: Whoa dude, it was awesome. It was awesome. I was

1322
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: very impressed. So you gotta you gotta give a little

1323
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: to get a little with him.

1324
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: How do we hang out with this guy? Is he

1325
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: a good hang your brother? Uh?

1326
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: If you like eating burgers and smoking a trash bag

1327
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: full of marijuana?

1328
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: Sure, can we get Can we get by the fire

1329
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: with this guy?

1330
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: Please? You'll have to sit outside. You may have to

1331
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: wear a mask to go pee, but you know it's

1332
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good trade off.

1333
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, great, all right?

1334
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: We got what those dunks we got? We got one more.

1335
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: We got one more, by the way, verified blue check

1336
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: mark here from Ben. My vision is fading Ben Schnetzer. Okay,

1337
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: so BC, there's six of these. You gotta just pick

1338
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: one at a time. Ready, let's go through that. Number

1339
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: one Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore.

1340
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't hold up as well, but Billy Madison.

1341
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: The answer is Happy Gilmore. Two Tommy Boy or.

1342
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: Black Sheep Tommy Boy for days.

1343
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: Agreed, Tommy Boy is the right answer. Number three, the

1344
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: mask or ace Ventura.

1345
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: Although that is the the the mountaintop moment for Cameron

1346
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: Diaz like the like the that's Everest for her. The

1347
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: answer is a Spentura.

1348
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: The answer is a Spentura. I agree, all right. Number four,

1349
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: as we move along here, the Mighty Ducks or the Sandlot.

1350
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: That's a great that's a that's a great ask question tough,

1351
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: all right, the I hate to scale the fence. The

1352
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: Sandlot's the better flick, but the Mighty Ducks is more rewatchable.

1353
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: That's my personal take. Okay. If I gotta pick one Sandlot,

1354
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: San It's classic. It's just so classic and pure.

1355
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: Sandlot is is timeless and so sentimental and just perfect.

1356
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: Number five and Sino Man or Biodome. Are you a

1357
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: poly shore guy or a what's his face? Who fell

1358
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: off the fucking earth?

1359
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: I saw I saw a son in law on Opening Night.

1360
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: Remember Paully Shore and Kelly Kapowski were in that movie.

1361
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: That was great.

1362
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go And Sino Man, I I feel like

1363
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: this guy's serving up to us, Like if you're gonna like,

1364
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: no one's gonna pick black sheep over boy. Right, it's

1365
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: like the like the bootleg follow up, right. I think

1366
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: Biodoma to me is like a bootleg follow up of

1367
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: Ventcino Man.

1368
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: Oh, Brendan Fraser is his name for Encia Man and

1369
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: then number six, last, but not least, And this is

1370
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: an important one. Are you a Friday guy or Awayn's

1371
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: brothers production? Don't be a minace of South Central while

1372
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: drinking your juice in the hood.

1373
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: Shout out to the Wayans, of course. And that one

1374
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: time that I had when Showtime sent me to la

1375
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: in first class and I had the bed on the

1376
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: plane and Damon Wayns was behind me and Flavor Flave

1377
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: was two seats to the left and I slept and

1378
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: like the waitress stewardest lady like cleans your area while

1379
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: you're sleeping, gives you a back massage. I mean I

1380
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: was like, you know, we got a hot dog and

1381
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: a hando here too. You gotta go with Friday, Luke.

1382
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: I don't think there's there is a back massage, Jay,

1383
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I know. Jay's the Master of Points.

1384
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: Jay's got another documentary coming out.

1385
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: Yes, Jay, there is no back massage in coach where

1386
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: they ship your ass. But for those of us who

1387
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: get right in front of the plane.

1388
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying this not only is the answer of Friday, Luke.

1389
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: That's one of those like, I'm not sure you can

1390
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: even if you've watched it for the first time this year.

1391
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you could realize how culturally significant

1392
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,479
Speaker 2: and hilarious that movie was unless you were in those

1393
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: times in the nineties when it came out and you

1394
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: saw it in the theater and instantly every line and

1395
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 2: situation became a catchphrase for like the next five years

1396
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: of your life.

1397
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was a light mocking of movies

1398
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: of that era. But the answer is Friday. Friday is

1399
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: a classic. Friday is timeless. Friday spawned multiple sequels, some

1400
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: of which sucked and which were okay. But it is

1401
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: a period piece and you know, you can't understand the

1402
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: nineties without Friday. It's not possible. So the answer is,

1403
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:50,959
Speaker 1: shout out to Debo.

1404
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: Shout out to Debo.

1405
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: Right, tuck your chain when Deebo comes through. Okay, BC,

1406
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: your turn to do the show, my friend, What do

1407
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: you got for us?

1408
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, here we go. Hit the animation, hit

1409
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: me with the horns, money Uh. You know what we do, right,

1410
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: We scour the globe for the good, the bad, the

1411
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: highs and lows in combat sports beyond it's have you

1412
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 2: seen this issue, Luke? We always start with legitimate combat sports.

1413
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: This past Saturday in Mexico City, top rank kind of

1414
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: card on ESPN. By the way, they served up Emmanuel Navarette,

1415
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: a champion in the main event with a guy with

1416
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: a thirteen and thirteen record.

1417
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: So f that.

1418
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: But on the undercard, did you see Sergio Sanchez send

1419
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: this man?

1420
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: Who's the left hook? Is this the left hook?

1421
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: Yes? It is great call by Bernardo Osuna, and wow,

1422
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: fuck that's it. Yep, that's it. That's it. There it is.

1423
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: You don't need fans in attendance to realize how great

1424
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: that is, Luke. Look at I mean just right on

1425
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: the chin, just yeah.

1426
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: And he was looking down to a.

1427
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 2: Little check hook magic. Remember the one Floyd Mayweather hit

1428
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: Ricky Hatton and set him face first into the ropes.

1429
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: Love it all right, let's move on to one Championship kickboxing. Luke,

1430
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: I've never seen this before. I've seen a body shot knockout.

1431
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: I've never seen a body shot knock out cold. Did

1432
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 2: that really just happen. Pink hair putting it. Kick this

1433
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: guy to the liver and I think he's out.

1434
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: How is that biologically possible?

1435
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: You tell me? Weird things happen in one championship.

1436
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lose hundreds of millions of dollars.

1437
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: They should have sent a press release about this. I

1438
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: think that guy's Wow, he's not coming back, Luke, he's

1439
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: out cold on a body shot. Wow. All right, yes, hey,

1440
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 2: let's move on from one to sand fighting.

1441
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: Luke.

1442
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: This will probably be the greatest knockout in sand fighting history.

1443
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 2: Oh God, Alway's testifying, Luke, He's testifying to.

1444
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: The the Lord Jesus.

1445
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow. Can you explain what what the setup

1446
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 2: here is? What is this? Is this true?

1447
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: He dips to? Is this what color her hit azure with?

1448
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: Watch him dip left?

1449
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not talking about the technique. I'm talking about

1450
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 2: your Armenian brethren. Is this like a neighborhood boxing match

1451
01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 2: in the sand?

1452
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: Bro Armenia? You know people, don't they I'll tell you what.

1453
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: It might be the first official Christian nation in world history,

1454
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: but they are not about turning the other cheek over there.

1455
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 1: They are they are savages, So.

1456
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: Why why is the one guy in the shorts and

1457
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: the other guy's dressed like dressed like uh what.

1458
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 1: He's going surfing in like cold Pacific waters or something.

1459
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, he's dressed like Roxanne Matafuri can

1460
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: who can wear the most clothes in one fight? Look

1461
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 2: at that? All right?

1462
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: I know she has knee wraps, ankle braces.

1463
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 2: The whole shit. I mean, my kids when they go swimming,

1464
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: they wear less than that. I mean, come on, and

1465
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: they you know. All right, Hey, let's move on from here.

1466
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: Let's go to drinking. That's what we do in the summer. Right,

1467
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 2: here's a flaming mose shot gone wrong. Look no, sorry,

1468
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: I guess we switched one there. All right, we got well,

1469
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: we'll move on. We'll go to the next one. Hey,

1470
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: here's a toast for Abuelo. He's crazy. We love him.

1471
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: He's been through a lot. It's Father's Day weekend. Just

1472
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: be careful, don't stand behind him. Right, we love you, Abuelo.

1473
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 2: You're the patriarch of this family. Okay, celebrate salou to

1474
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: you and yours. Oh yeah, all right, what tradition is this?

1475
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I think this is

1476
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 2: in Doha. This is these are your people.

1477
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, if it was in Doha, that

1478
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: might have been actually intentional.

1479
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: This might be that Colombian uh you knowsha that you

1480
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 2: do and then you throw it. All right, let's go

1481
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 2: back to that one. Jay, bring it on, Luke. I'm

1482
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: all for doing shots. I'm all for celebration and all that.

1483
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: But if we're gonna light shots on fire and go

1484
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 2: flaming most style, you deserve what you get in this situation. Okay, Okay,

1485
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:54,879
Speaker 2: look all right, this kid's like fourteen, by the way. Yeah,

1486
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not in on that, Luke. I'm not

1487
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 2: in on it, all right. Ever, smoke wet in high school?

1488
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 2: Uh where people spray it with a bug spray. I

1489
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: don't get down on that either. Okay. I don't smoke

1490
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: wet and I don't do this.

1491
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: Okay, dude, I wish his friends wouldn't have put it out.

1492
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 2: Yeah that's great, that's great. All right, thank you, Bolo.

1493
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 2: Can we move on to a real drinking legend, Jake,

1494
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: can you get us back on track. It's the Donnie

1495
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: Ronnie Deutsch part of this, the drinking legend, Luke. He's

1496
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: raising the bar with this with his Charles Barkley throwback.

1497
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 2: The Great Ronnie Deutsch is going to try a six

1498
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 2: pack of mixed alcoholic drinks with with a with a

1499
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 2: with a poa on his shoulders.

1500
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: Right, dude, that is gross. He's got the sweet, the heart,

1501
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: the hard sweet tea, whatever you want to call it.

1502
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: And then what is that like?

1503
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: We got to get this guy in the show and

1504
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: talk talk to him because this is like, this is

1505
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 2: next level. When you're mixing I mean you've had like

1506
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: a zeema or some kind of spiked thing. It gives

1507
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: you indigestion like a mofo. He's mixing that with with

1508
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: beer and different things.

1509
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: He couldn't get the last one in one go.

1510
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's strugg He's like Dale Senior on turn four. Here,

1511
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: he's struggling. He's about to go on the wall. Luke,

1512
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 2: all right, he did it. He did it. But uh,

1513
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 2: oh wow, what do you think happens next after the

1514
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: camera turns off?

1515
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: Uh, he's probably gonna those two are going to you know.

1516
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, shout to shout out to Ronnie Deutsch

1517
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 2: on that one. Let's go to the football field, Luke.

1518
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can get a little too into it. You

1519
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: can get a little bit too hype. Check out this

1520
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: coach in the foreground with the white thing in his

1521
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: back and the gray switch. Yeah yeah, yeah, fired up,

1522
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 2: great play. Yeah you got jacked up. You got jack

1523
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: the hell up?

1524
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 1: Come on, son, I mean that first. That's a large man, Jesus.

1525
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look at that all And the thing is

1526
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: he's hurt. He's down. He's down for a while there

1527
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: by the way. That's great all right. Uh you know

1528
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: he's celebrating, of course, a big play there in open

1529
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: field tackle off. Let's go to an open field dog tackle.

1530
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: Check this out, Luke. You gotta be careful in the

1531
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: backyard when you wind your dog up because they might

1532
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: come around the corner and send that Oh look at that.

1533
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, you know what you got to call

1534
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: the dog for clipping?

1535
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that is that is that is illegal.

1536
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: That is not legal. But uh wow, I think the

1537
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: head hit the ground too. That's a ko right there.

1538
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,560
Speaker 1: All right. See, that's why you gotta get You have

1539
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: a dog, right, how big is your dog?

1540
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: I got two of them. I got a big German

1541
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: Shepherd Doberman mixed about seventy pounds.

1542
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, but see, German shepherds are smart. This mutt

1543
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: is just you know, running into shit because he's stupid.

1544
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the first snowfall, when I let Molly

1545
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 2: out there in the backyard, she would do.

1546
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: This to me.

1547
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: She would take me out out of the excitement, you know.

1548
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see, I got one dog who's like less

1549
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: than twenty pounds, and the other one is afraid of

1550
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, the lightning. So I don't only have to

1551
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 1: worry about this.

1552
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: Very very Luke Thomas, like with the COVID. All right, Hey,

1553
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 2: look you ever been at a party and there's that

1554
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: like jerk who refuses to give his keys and he's

1555
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: drinking too much and he's trying to start the car,

1556
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: and we're like, how do we corral him? Look at

1557
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 2: this guy right here in the striped shirt. He's come on, guy,

1558
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: just give the keys. You're not gonna get away from us.

1559
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:23,959
Speaker 2: There's no escape right now. Oh god, what he's celebrating.

1560
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: Look at it. Oh now, now the reality comes in.

1561
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: You've you've got shards of glass inside your soul. That

1562
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 2: was worth it, all right? At that point I let

1563
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: him drive home.

1564
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: Look, you know, I'm speechless. Is that Paul Felder? Who

1565
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 1: is that that?

1566
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, very Paul Felder like there, yes, yes,

1567
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 2: where's Barbosa with a spinning back it? Come on?

1568
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh maybe maybe it's Paul Craig.

1569
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah the bear, the bear jew very well done there,

1570
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: shout out.

1571
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: All right, wow, my man is taking drinking games to

1572
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: a different level with that ship.

1573
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to a classic UFC way in moment, you know,

1574
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 2: I sang on, do what you like and if you

1575
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: missed it, I'm the one that said just grabbed the

1576
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: boss by the biscuit? Is that an ABC Nation Amanda Cooper?

1577
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: What is she doing? How many dudes has she done

1578
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: that too? At the bar? I mean.

1579
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit surprised the boss, uh you know,

1580
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 2: tried to block that. I'm you know, you know how

1581
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: they get down there? Right? Just whatever?

1582
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: Is asking something? Not that I'm saying we should report

1583
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: her to HR. But is that sexual harassment?

1584
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's certainly not. It was certainly not legal

1585
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: in my company.

1586
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: Luke.

1587
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, you know, I mean, I'm morning combat.

1588
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: We can do anything.

1589
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is this is uh, this is a

1590
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: step shy of the morning combat hand.

1591
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: This is an old fight though. This is uh, what

1592
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 2: fight is that? Yahadia two? Yeah, so that's twenty sixteen,

1593
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: the weekend of UFC two hundred, the sale all that.

1594
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: Look at Joe Silver right there? You got any Joe

1595
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: Silver stories, Luke.

1596
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he called me up irate one time. Okay, did

1597
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: he ever call you? Did you ever call you angry?

1598
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 2: No? But one time I was out drinking at UFC

1599
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: one ninety nine weekend and Sean Shelby was there and

1600
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know what he looked like. I only know

1601
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: the name, and we'd been drinking for a while. Other

1602
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 2: media there and whatever, and I really pissed him off

1603
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: because at a certain level, I was just looked over.

1604
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, hey, so you work for UFC two,

1605
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 2: what do you do? And you didn't like that? You

1606
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: didn't like that.

1607
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 1: I've actually had I've actually had a number of conversations

1608
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: with Sean. I've had a pretty good relationship with him.

1609
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 2: I got nothing against him. But he did not like that.

1610
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: I was asking him what his job was, and who

1611
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 2: your father was and what does.

1612
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: He do for a living?

1613
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would not like that.

1614
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Joe called me one time, real bitter. That

1615
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: was it.

1616
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 2: Okay. I mean, you know, look, a lot of people

1617
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 2: might not be wrong. He did do his job right,

1618
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 2: you know, he played that role to the tea, but

1619
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 2: you know he did send a few people to hell. Okay,

1620
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: let's roll on here, Luke. This is a pretty good knockout,

1621
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: but it might be the worst celebration of all time.

1622
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 2: Jay hit me with it. I don't know what league

1623
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: we're in here, but what is this creep show? This is?

1624
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: This is combate Americas?

1625
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you call that? Is that like

1626
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 2: the uh, what's the dance they did in Teenwolf?

1627
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the t rex? Okay, but how do you

1628
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 1: do the t rex has no arms or very short

1629
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: ones anyway, and you just knocked the dude out with

1630
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: your hands, wouldn't you. That doesn't even make sense.

1631
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're gonna be a t rex, at least

1632
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 2: eat is he'd eat part of them, right.

1633
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: Stump stomp, you know if you won via stomp or something.

1634
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, advise him to get better tattoos, do

1635
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 2: something right, help them with his taxes. I don't know,

1636
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what that's all about. But uh, all right, hey,

1637
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: look remember we just launched Morning Combat merch right show

1638
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: dot store dot com s a h o to check.

1639
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: You know, you can outfit you know your father, you know,

1640
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 2: a little post Father's Day gift. Get them a sweatshirt,

1641
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: get them a hoodie. We have a very creative group

1642
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: of fans. We've shown some of this stuff in the past,

1643
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 2: but uh we our fans are so creative. And there's

1644
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 2: the link by the way store store, dot show dot

1645
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 2: com to get your merch. I think some of our

1646
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 2: fans want to be merch creators. They're basically like, look,

1647
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: we love your merch, but we want to go even broader,

1648
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: next level. I want you to rate each of this

1649
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 2: MK merch attempts by our by our people. Give me

1650
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: a you know, give me a good bad or ugly? Yeah,

1651
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: or and ay here we go, Luke. This one is

1652
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 2: first from at Square Punches Circle on Instagram. That is

1653
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 2: that is pretty good, right there?

1654
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: What are my choices? Good? Bad and weird?

1655
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, bad and ugly.

1656
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: I'll go good okay.

1657
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean Jay has pointed out that I look like

1658
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 2: David Ortiz on the left, and we're both wearing a

1659
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:36,480
Speaker 2: shirt that says tip.

1660
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe maybe we're big fans of an Atlanta rapper.

1661
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 2: That's true, that is true. All right, Let's bring on

1662
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 2: a show legend web scream right, our boy Kristophoros, the

1663
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 2: Greek legend. He's playing up on the on the im

1664
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 2: Mortal Kombat mixed with our Donkage. What do you think

1665
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 2: about that, Luke? Would you wear that on a T shirt?

1666
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 2: Would you put that? It's okay, you put that on

1667
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 2: your kid's bib.

1668
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's okay.

1669
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 2: All right, here's the all time classic from Sammy Q.

1670
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 2: Zero h nine is zero eight nine excuse me on

1671
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 2: Instagram that that may have to join the line.

1672
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: That's your winner, that's that's your that's your clubhouse leader

1673
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: right there.

1674
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 2: That's fantastic showtime. Can we add this to the to

1675
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: the mix please? All right, let's go on from here.

1676
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 2: Dominic Volando turned us into into Simpson's characters. Luke, I'm

1677
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 2: a big fan of this one. Okay.

1678
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: That is amazing. That is amazing. Holy crap, that is good.

1679
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 2: They now I look like a I look like a

1680
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 2: creeper on the right, but they nailed you. That is you,

1681
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 2: Luke all the way.

1682
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I just looked like the sad guy in

1683
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: the Running Man who was the security forces for the

1684
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: game show host.

1685
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,919
Speaker 2: Great call right there. All right, here is my personal

1686
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 2: favorite of the group. This is from Eric Bisera. He

1687
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 2: might have a future on the store dot show dot

1688
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: com website. Yeah right, I kind of look like Michael

1689
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 2: Bisping on the right. But yeah, we nailed it, right.

1690
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: God, who do I look like Michael Ducaccus or something?

1691
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: Ship I look terrible.

1692
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: Yes, the Morning Combat Sun logo, in the in the

1693
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 2: in the in the letter, oh there, I love it.

1694
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: And in the eye he's got the fist. I appreciate

1695
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: the letter of the tail, but it looks like we're amputees. Uh,

1696
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 1: you know, rubbing nubs or something. It's a little weird.

1697
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: All right. You saw this one because it blew up

1698
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 2: Instagram recently. From at Life in Comic Sons Sands s

1699
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 2: a n s uh yeah, that's uh, that's so good.

1700
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 2: Grip to grip, Luke, Grip to grip Right there.

1701
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: I like how you look like I am molesting you.

1702
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: You see that face. It's like I've been I've like

1703
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 1: conscripted you. And I'm also wearing apparently my dad's shoes.

1704
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 2: And you're wearing a shirt that says Cannibal corpse on

1705
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 2: it and I'm wearing a shirt with two hot dogs

1706
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 2: touching tips. I mean, it's it is. This is pretty good.

1707
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 2: This is pretty damn good.

1708
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: This is great. Actually, it's not bad. It's not bad.

1709
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 1: A lot we.

1710
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 2: Usually closed with something weird, Luke. I found this pure

1711
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 2: in the archives, all these nineties music references I make.

1712
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: I bet you're wondering what did I look like when

1713
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 2: I was in my eighty five chevy celebrity dropping out

1714
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 2: of college and listening to those songs? Check me out

1715
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: in September of nineteen ninety seven, Luke, sweaty, blown, washed

1716
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 2: hie and not getting girls during this stretch of my career.

1717
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: I can't imagine why.

1718
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: Maybe the maybe the facial hair, maybe maybe.

1719
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: Could be that fucking crater sized ZiT on the top

1720
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: of your forehead. Couldn't be that I.

1721
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 2: Was nineteen here, you know, thinking, you know, it's I

1722
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: should have dropped out of college. I should just dropped

1723
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: That's probably I was thinking right there.

1724
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: You know. Also, the uh, the facial hair. I mean,

1725
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: I've had my run ins with bad facial hair, so

1726
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not above it. But we you know, listen,

1727
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: it takes time to figure out things in our lives.

1728
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: B See, it takes some time, and then by the

1729
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,839
Speaker 1: time here's what I've noticed.

1730
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: To a curled under it curled under, Luke, girl like that.

1731
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, by the time you figure it out,

1732
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: that's at the point where you stop caring, and then

1733
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't do any good anyway.

1734
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 2: Chicky leader girls don't want to hear that shit, you

1735
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yeah, they basically told me check

1736
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: you later after that one time I passed out at

1737
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 2: a live concert, remember that band and Shannon Rafferty lit

1738
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: that that thing on fire. Not a good moment in

1739
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 2: my life. All right, thank you?

1740
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 1: Wow? Also, you know what very good of you to

1741
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: be mouth breathing.

1742
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, Hey have you seen any of that, Luke.

1743
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 2: I know it wasn't our best Okay, I.

1744
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: Know it was good. It was good. I liked it. OBBOUC.

1745
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: With that in mind, let us transition. We have odds

1746
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: and ends. What are your odds and ends for today?

1747
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? I got a few of them this week. What's

1748
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: that guy's name and I forgot it? The ex UFC

1749
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 2: fighter turned boxer.

1750
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: Uh it is Clay Collared.

1751
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: Clay Coward Clay Collared. Clay Collard, we remember we played

1752
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: him on the show a couple months back when he

1753
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,919
Speaker 2: before the quarantine, when he had appeared on a PBC

1754
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 2: undercard and knocked out a young prospect. He did the

1755
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: same thing again, only this time it was a I

1756
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 2: think it was a split or majority decision on the

1757
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: top ranked card last Thursday against the guy he was

1758
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: sending there in theory to lose to Clay Callers A

1759
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:11,919
Speaker 2: tough bastard. Here is that a morning combat morning attatoo

1760
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: on the shoulder?

1761
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: I doubt it.

1762
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 2: Mortal Kombat. Yeah, it's shout out to Clay Collard right there.

1763
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: Look he brought it. I thought he won the fight

1764
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 2: a lot wider than the scores indicated. You got to

1765
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 2: give this guy a shout. I mean, he's transitioned to

1766
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 2: boxing after a failed UFC run, right He lost to

1767
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: Max Holloway back in the day, and now he's just

1768
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: knocking out potential contenders, maybe pretenders, left and right. Here's

1769
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: the problem, though, Look, we've been kind of ragging on

1770
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 2: these top rank on ESPN shows for the lack of matchmaking,

1771
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: and particularly this card. The main event fell apart with

1772
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: a COVID U one of the fighters coaches got caught

1773
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: COVID and that fell apart. But I don't know if

1774
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 2: you saw the fighter pay for the entire card, and again,

1775
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 2: these matchups sucked on paper. Clay made five thousand dollars

1776
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 2: for upsetting that kid on national time. I never thought

1777
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 2: i'd say this. You might want to go back to

1778
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 2: the UFC and make your seven and a half to

1779
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: show seven and a half to win, because that's awful.

1780
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 2: And I get it. I understand the situation we're in,

1781
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 2: but hey, boxing, we got to do better. Meaning quarantine

1782
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 2: right now, Dana's kicking everyone's ass. I know it's a

1783
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 2: different setup, different system, different financials, but it's time to

1784
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 2: start making some good matchups. It's time to pay people.

1785
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 2: And Luke a little birdie told me that we could

1786
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 2: be seeing a big time boxing announcement from our friends

1787
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: at showtime this week about the future schedule for the

1788
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: rest of twenty twenty, when they will return, how they

1789
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: will return against who, against who against who. It's gonna

1790
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: be pretty good, gonna gonna be pretty damn solid.

1791
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: All right.

1792
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 2: We could be back in business in this sport, all right.

1793
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: And that's no. And I'm like I'm not stiff arming

1794
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: Bob Ahriman company. I'm happy that they're getting out there

1795
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 2: and making it happen as well. Hopefully Golden Boy, Matchroom Sport,

1796
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: everyone else will do the same. But PBC, Showtime, Big

1797
01:24:59,200 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 2: News coming.

1798
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: A couple things. I would add that same Birdie told

1799
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: me about some of the fights that Showtime might be announcing.

1800
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: Gotta say, there's some of the fights on that list

1801
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. Maybe if Showtimes likes us and

1802
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: Covid is not kicking America's ass, we can go cover

1803
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 1: some of them. That'd be kind of fun.

1804
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 2: I'd also add, by the way, would you wear COVID

1805
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 2: mask on air like the Today Show announcers do?

1806
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: Do they really? I didn't see that, Do they really?

1807
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Would you have like a Showtime boxing logo, maybe

1808
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 2: a an MK logo on there?

1809
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? I put the MK logo on it. Yeah, you

1810
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: got to listen. Yeah, they got to promote the brand.

1811
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 1: I would say this real quickly. Clay Collard, you mentioned,

1812
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 1: only made five grand. Here's the part of the story

1813
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: that people forget. He had actually signed with the PFL

1814
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: to fight in March of twenty twenty, and then the

1815
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: whole thing got just pushed until I think with the

1816
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure when I'm coming back until next year, right,

1817
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: something like that. So he had to go make money somehow,

1818
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: so he just went back into boxing. So that's why

1819
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 1: he's sort of in the position that he's in. Also,

1820
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: was a six rounder. They're not going to pay you

1821
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: much for a six rounder, right, So no, I.

1822
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 2: Mean, look, I'm not saying, like anytime we talk about

1823
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 2: UFC pay that the lower wrung of boxing pays well,

1824
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't on the lower end. But this was a televised,

1825
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: somewhat featured fight. I mean, five grand's tough, Luke. That's tough, Luke.

1826
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: That you might make more.

1827
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't know your specifics. You might make more for

1828
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: a showtime appearance than that guy did for trying to

1829
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 2: send a gout of hell. You know what I mean.

1830
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: I can neither confirm nor deny that. I'll say this

1831
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: my odds and ends very quickly a fight.

1832
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: I got more odds and ends, Luke.

1833
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 1: I know you well, go ahead, finish, finish, finished, finish, all.

1834
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 2: Right, real quick. You saw John Jones's tweet or Instagram

1835
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 2: whatever to Mike Tyson saying, you know, let's talk about it.

1836
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: I'm listening. I'm not here to tell you that this

1837
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: John Jones Mike Tyson boxing match should happen, or will happen,

1838
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 2: or all that. I mean, it's kind of weird. Tyson

1839
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 2: was doing Instagram Live with somebody else laying on a bed.

1840
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 2: He actually gave a pretty honest take about the reality

1841
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 2: of pay for UFC stars.

1842
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: Right.

1843
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 2: He pointed out that somebody like Connor McGregor had to

1844
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 2: go to boxing and go into a spot in which,

1845
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: you know, the odds were against him to try to

1846
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 2: make real money, right, like one hundred million dollar superstar money.

1847
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 2: And Mike put up a great point. He said, Connor

1848
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 2: could never make that in the UFC. In fact, even

1849
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 2: if he was bold enough to challenge John Jones, he

1850
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: still wouldn't make that money. And then Mike said, you know,

1851
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: if John Jones wants to make this type of money,

1852
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to fight me. So of course that

1853
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 2: got everybody going, oh my god, are they gonna box.

1854
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: We know Mike's trying to come back. Luca's not gonna happen.

1855
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: It's just not gonna happen. But I did want to

1856
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 2: play with you for a second. Weird. I know, just

1857
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 2: what if it did happen a boxing match, fifty three

1858
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: year old and suddenly in shape Mike Tyson, who you know,

1859
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: in the first minute, first three minutes maybe is gonna

1860
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 2: be as dangerous as ever against a six or four

1861
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 2: rangye John Jones, who has no pro boxing experience but

1862
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: certainly can throw punches a little bit. What if that

1863
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 2: was a three round boxing match? What does that look like?

1864
01:27:55,520 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: Trash? I mean, you know, it's like what if they

1865
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 1: had to kick each other but they had to fight

1866
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: walking on their hands, Like, how would it look?

1867
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh no, seriously, because John said, you know,

1868
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 2: I'll box you if you agree to an MMA fight,

1869
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 2: but I'll take it lightly. And nobody wants any of that.

1870
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen, but people would buy it to

1871
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: see what those first three minutes.

1872
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: Look like when Mike comes out John John would John

1873
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 1: would do what he always does, which is hang on

1874
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,719
Speaker 1: until the guy gases and hang on him quite literally,

1875
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: like wrapping him up right using his stiff arm, having

1876
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: him just get tired and then start working them. That's it.

1877
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 2: It be appreciate, so you want yeah you did, just

1878
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: you did, just squash my dreams. But I think you're right.

1879
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: I think you're right in a lot of ways. It

1880
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 2: would be fun to see if Tyson could land that,

1881
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 2: but it would probably be gross, and John would work

1882
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: from distance, and he is defensively responsible enough to probably

1883
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 2: not get lit up. But uh yeah, let's not do that.

1884
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: And also to close. Look, I know you don't care,

1885
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 2: but the pro wrestling industry in the last few days

1886
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: blowing up on Twitter hashtags speaking out, is it really exposing,

1887
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: particularly on the independent scene, how bad the treatment of

1888
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 2: women has been in that industry, sexual abuse and harassment

1889
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: and all that. They's starting to be some bigger names,

1890
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 2: not big names, but big ish names that are getting

1891
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 2: called out, some even getting let go. I'm happy to

1892
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: see this because it's a rough injury industry, the pro

1893
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,919
Speaker 2: wrestling industry, and I'm sure there's skeletons in the closets,

1894
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 2: even as high as WWE. I'm assured of that. In

1895
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 2: some ways, I don't know if it's gonna get that

1896
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 2: far in terms of people bringing it to light. But

1897
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: this is good. This is good to see this happen.

1898
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,719
Speaker 2: That's a rough industry. A lot of bad things happen

1899
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 2: to a lot of bad people unfortunately in that and

1900
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 2: let's get let's get crap cleaned up. It's twenty twenty, Luke, Okay,

1901
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 2: we don't need nooses in the NASCAR hall or like,

1902
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 2: enough of this crap please, all right, let's let's let's

1903
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 2: bring up. Look, you can't keep those sins in the closet.

1904
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Speaker 2: They will come to the forefront, even for you.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

1906
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Speaker 2: Okay, your your sins against my people. Okay, keep it up,

1907
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 2: thank you?

1908
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: Who are your people?

1909
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just felt like stirring it up

1910
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 2: a little bit right there.

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Speaker 1: What do you got speaking of? Well, I don't know

1912
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: whether our people are not, but two interesting fighters are

1913
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: going to clash on our August twenty ninth. Anthony Smith

1914
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: is going to be back in action against Alexander Rakitch

1915
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Speaker 1: at two hundred and five pounds. I think the date

1916
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Speaker 1: is August twenty ninth. As a matter of fact, I'm

1917
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Speaker 1: not sure what the event is going to be called.

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Speaker 1: But that is a really interesting fight because one both

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Speaker 1: guys are coming off of losses too. Rakitch has like

1920
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 1: all the potential in the world. It appears he did

1921
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Speaker 1: lose his decision I think to Vulcan Uzdimir in his

1922
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Speaker 1: last contest, but you could tell he's got a lot

1923
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Speaker 1: of ability, and Smith, we know, has a lot of ability,

1924
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: but it's coming off of that really bad sort of beating.

1925
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: He took to Glover to Sherah where he got his

1926
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 1: teeth dislodged, and that was all the way not too

1927
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Speaker 1: far back in May, so he'll have about three months

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more between early May and late

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Speaker 1: August BC. I love the fight on paper, I love

1930
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Speaker 1: what it can do for either guy. But I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you, Anthony Smith coming back that fast surprised me.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, but that's sort of been who he

1934
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 2: has been, right. He comes back very quickly, sort of

1935
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,839
Speaker 2: takes big chances. Look, I want to interrupt this Anthony

1936
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Speaker 2: Smith conversation and say, look where journalists were supposed to

1937
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 2: be like, you know, partisan or whatever and not cheer

1938
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 2: for some. But everybody's got like favorite fighters, especially when

1939
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 2: we interview and meet them. I love me some you'll

1940
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 2: want a champion. I love me some Tying Woodley, some

1941
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 2: Rosanama Unis. I think Anthony Smith is your favorite fighter.

1942
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 2: Find you a fighter you love as much as you

1943
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 2: love Anthony Smith. You love that guy.

1944
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Speaker 1: I do. I think he's very, very talented, and I

1945
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 1: think he's bright, and it's always a pleasure to hear,

1946
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, even when I disagree with him or whatever.

1947
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: When he talked about like explaining the lack of a

1948
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: corner stop it in his last fight. You know, I

1949
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: don't think he comes to life without or comes to

1950
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: positions without giving him some consideration. And he's had a

1951
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 1: really interesting, unique story here. And I'm not saying he

1952
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: won't win. I you know, listen to these are things are

1953
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 1: very hard to predict. But if you had told me

1954
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: at the end of that fight in early mid May

1955
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 1: that Smith will be back in late August, given what

1956
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 1: had happened, like right after it was over, I would

1957
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: have been very surprised to hear that. Now. Again, you're

1958
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 1: right sort of what he kind of does. Still, that

1959
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: is I mean to share it to rackets. That is

1960
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 1: a that's all. That's a lot to ask, is what

1961
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's a lot to ask.

1962
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 2: Do you have any other favorite fighters? Look, you never

1963
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 2: talk about this, you never talk honestly, but that's what

1964
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 2: we do on MK.

1965
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Speaker 1: You know what I mostly I do have some favorite fighters.

1966
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,440
Speaker 1: But these days, I'll be honest with you, I mostly

1967
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 1: enjoy uh talking to coaches these days, I like talking

1968
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 1: to you.

1969
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 2: That's a little boring. Look, that's a little boring, all right.

1970
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying, yeah, it doesn't. I'm not I'm not

1971
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: saying I get the most amount of like traffic out

1972
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Speaker 1: of it, but I get the most amount of valuable

1973
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: information out of it.

1974
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 2: Do you still interview fighters on your radio show?

1975
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: Right?

1976
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm I'm just getting used to your radio show through

1977
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 2: my wife's car. But do you see I mean, there's

1978
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 2: got to be when you see a card coming up,

1979
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 2: you see a name point out, and you're like, oh,

1980
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 2: I got to interview that person. It's going to be great.

1981
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 2: Like Mike, I just emailed the UFC. I need me

1982
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 2: some Mike Perry, all right, I need that in my life.

1983
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have the same sort of zest for that.

1984
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 1: I have Jim Miller on because that was his thirty

1985
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: fifth UFC fight. We didn't even talk about him and

1986
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: after that great, And then I had Gray Maynard on

1987
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: given some of the sort of discussion he was having

1988
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: on social media about fighter pay. I think those were

1989
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: the only fighters I had on last week, So I'll

1990
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 1: talk to him. It's not like a thing, but I

1991
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 1: don't really seek it out the way I used to.

1992
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe this year, Luke, you and I will get

1993
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 2: back out in the road, cover a fight together, grapple,

1994
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 2: hang out with your brother, do like. Let's let's do

1995
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 2: it all right, let's live our lives. Okay.

1996
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Speaker 1: Here's the only question that matters. If and when we

1997
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Speaker 1: get together sometime this year, which I suspect we probably will.

1998
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 1: I'm going to remain optimistic. Right, it's only June. We

1999
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: have time. Are we going to do the grip to

2000
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: grip and then put it on social media? Because if

2001
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: we get together and we don't do it, I feel

2002
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 1: like we'd be letting people down.

2003
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. We've been stuck around. You know,

2004
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 2: he's sitting on seven fourteen. We've been stuck at like

2005
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 2: forty six forty eight thousand subscribers on YouTube for a while.

2006
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: We've already put the steaks out there. Get us to fifty,

2007
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 2: get us to seventy five, get us to one hundred,

2008
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 2: and you'll see maybe even gross things. I ain't gripping

2009
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: to gripping you unless there's something for our people to

2010
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 2: do to get there. Okay, it's a fair point. I

2011
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 2: will say that that's probably a better option than any

2012
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 2: tip to tip or anything in that category, all right.

2013
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Speaker 1: Or we can do the grip to grip and then

2014
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: we can say the photo exists, but we won't publish

2015
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: it until you push us over the finish line.

2016
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Speaker 2: That kind of a thing, as long as the camera

2017
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:29,759
Speaker 2: don't have to be on my face. Like you can't

2018
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 2: pick the right face for a grip to grip shot.

2019
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 2: What's the right face, Luke.

2020
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. We have to figure that out in

2021
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: real time. I don't know, all right, BC. Well, with that,

2022
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: we were just about done here. As a reminder, get

2023
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: the video a thumbs up, hit subscribe please. And also

2024
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: we have social media things to tell you about. So

2025
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,839
Speaker 1: BC and I are on Insta, we are on Twitter.

2026
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: You could check those out. They're gonna put the graphic

2027
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: up here ostensibly, and then of course Morning Combat is

2028
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: at the channel. As we mentioned, if you want to

2029
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 1: participate in the DMS for donks from Donks, we put

2030
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 1: the post up on Instagram every Sunday, usually mid afternoon.

2031
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 1: You can go check that out, and then the folks

2032
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 1: here at Malca pick the best of them. Okay, all right,

2033
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Speaker 1: Well for my good friend BC. We appreciate y'all watching,

2034
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: thanks to Malka and Showtime for making this possible. Of course,

2035
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: you want to check out Showtime you certainly may. You

2036
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 1: can go to Showtime dot com. Get a free trial there.

2037
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 1: You'll like it. You can keep it. If not, you

2038
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 1: can bounce. But if you keep it, you can check

2039
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: us out Morning Combat, Showtime. Wanna come about Strikeforce Classics

2040
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: every Thursday, ten pm on Showtime.

2041
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Speaker 2: Extreme any parting words Extreme Great documentaries on Showtime worth

2042
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 2: subscribing to Showtime. Boxing announcement coming soon. BELTI Ware's gonna

2043
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Speaker 2: make a comeback soon and we're gonna have a great year, Luke. Okay,

2044
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 2: throughout all this, we're gonna have a great year. Support

2045
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 2: us and we will support you. Okay, you show us ours,

2046
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 2: We will show you, show you a lot, please me.

2047
01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: All right. B C always finds a way to make

2048
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 1: it where which we appreciate because that's what he does.

2049
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 1: For Brian Campbell, I'm look Thomas until next time. May

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Speaker 1: all of your gains be loyal