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Speaker 2: How are you guys?

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Speaker 1: We are super excited to have you here, So waiting

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Speaker 1: you tell us about this guy Max, how you met,

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Speaker 2: So, I mean I met tax on the app. You know,

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Speaker 2: we started talking and to connect fairly well, you know,

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, so you have no idea after this

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Speaker 2: I tried calling him, I texted him. I only texted

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Speaker 1: I mean, it would be nice to know after you

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Speaker 2: So sure, especially after you hook up with someone you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's where we come in. So we'll call. We'll

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Speaker 1: that we pay for. Okay, okay, hey bb Yeah, Hi Bby,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Let's call Max. You guys met on one

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Speaker 1: well that you slept over in his house, you know,

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Speaker 1: You've reached out once, he hasn't responded. I can understand

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, let's call him now. Good luck Phoebe. Hello?

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Speaker 1: Is this Max?

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Speaker 1: Hey Max? Good morning. My name is Fredam calling from

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Speaker 1: the French show on one of three five Kiss FM,

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Speaker 1: and I'm starrying to bother. I do have to tell

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, the date was good. The everything else that

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Speaker 1: that BB you here. I I don't know what. I

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Speaker 1: So what was going on on the couch after afterwards?

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Speaker 1: And why was it so loud? By the way, Yeah, why.

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Speaker 2: Didn't know that? He caught me, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well why do you think so?

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Speaker 1: Didn't you didn't you didn't You didn't get to the

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Speaker 2: I did not finish so and I did not expect

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Speaker 1: You know, it's you don't always get to that point.

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Speaker 1: But Max, Man, you're awfully quiet on this whole thing.

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Speaker 3: It's just it was just kind of weird. I definitely

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Speaker 1: I will say this is a difficult concept for most

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Speaker 1: So I think it's a hard thing for guys who understand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get that. I just like washing porn

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Speaker 1: What a gentleman. Yeah, I would have been more offended

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Speaker 1: And I know it's clearly not good and here we are.

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Speaker 1: But well, that's that's nice, you know. There you go, bb,

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Speaker 1: So that was the issue. I don't know that every

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Speaker 1: So Phoebe, I'm sorry. I don't think it's gonna work out.

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Speaker 1: No fair enough, man, I know he doesn't seem too

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