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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Dalley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, bol Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's you live on a first Friday miracle

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Speaker 2: edition of the program.

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Speaker 3: Merely bow the great Z. How are you living? Try it,

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Speaker 3: try it good? You got it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, baby, I wasn't getting any feedback on those taps

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Speaker 4: up or down, up or down now, so now we're

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Speaker 4: in the mix. Now, it's all there. I would just

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Speaker 4: tell you game.

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Speaker 3: Week, Game week.

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Speaker 2: We've got the voice on in like fifteen minutes. So

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Speaker 2: this is fantastic news to have the voice on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When I walked in here today, yeah, and I see

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Speaker 2: the felt pens, baby, and I see the boards. There's

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Speaker 2: a coding system, there are notes. Oh yeah, it's all happening. Brother,

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Speaker 2: hard to read though, to be perfectly honest with it.

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Speaker 4: Too much.

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Speaker 3: You got too much going on. There's too many kids,

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Speaker 3: you get, there's too many people.

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Speaker 4: And I think that I realized like last year at

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Speaker 4: this time I was so pumped because I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: my god, I'm doing the preseason game and I was

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Speaker 4: to really have be able to see what I've written.

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Speaker 4: So I've just kind of made little some information, but

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Speaker 4: more kind of like little notes to myself of things

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Speaker 4: that I already know in my brain that will make

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Speaker 4: me bring that up at times. And then where I

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Speaker 4: the preseason affords you for a player, I'll get that

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Speaker 4: in there. So it's good. That's good. Yeah, feeling good

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Speaker 4: gonna have the voice. I'm excited to be back in

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Speaker 4: So many people have been asking, and you know he will.

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Speaker 4: He'll you'll hear straight from the horse's mouth and about

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Speaker 3: But we'll also hear about horses.

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Speaker 4: You get it off you're gonna get it all. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's good. The Felt pens are nice. I've noticed the

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Speaker 4: coaches have a nice stash, and I think at this

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Speaker 4: point I'd be frinded enough of them that I'll be

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Speaker 2: Can you Oh, they've got a nice We used to

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Speaker 3: So we don't have those anymore.

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Speaker 2: So it's very good to see those, to see the

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to watch a football game. I'm every seat

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Speaker 2: Small venue obviously what we're used to like, very intimate,

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Speaker 4: So you're gonna get their two quarterbacks who will play

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Speaker 4: But that'll be interesting to see. And I think that's

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Speaker 4: good for our defense, our young guys, because you're going

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Speaker 4: going into year three, is the number two overall pick

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Speaker 4: not good enough? We're going to bring in Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: These are guys who have played NFL defenses before and

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Speaker 2: And I you know, for me, preseason, whether we're in

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Speaker 2: to see Cedric Tillman, who had a great catch yesterday

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I want to see too. You get Dorian

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Speaker 4: Did you know who his dad played? With in college.

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Speaker 4: No, Aaron mcinnair at al Cornstone. My dad was catching

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Speaker 4: You know, David Bell I don't think is in any

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Speaker 4: it's a for Demitric Felton and John Kelly. John Kelly's

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Speaker 4: been on our practice squad basically since twenty twenty. Feltons

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Speaker 4: They drafted a Benaconda out of pit who I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of him in this game. But with Breess

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Speaker 3: Was nice at Carolina.

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Speaker 2: He was on that team with Sam howl Yeah and

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Speaker 2: Javante they were all our guy before the injuries all happened.

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Speaker 3: I know that I watched a lot of a CC.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you do, Yeah, you do? How how your depth?

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it's like you and the a CC, me

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Speaker 4: uh but yeah, sometimes you gotta just let people know,

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Speaker 2: I like that packed time. I think I liked it.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was perfect. I was I loved it.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you this, it is true. If there is

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Speaker 2: You know what, You're not gonna be able to watch

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Speaker 2: it anymore because it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 3: Well for now it does, but not for much longer.

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Speaker 2: The best they could do was what amounts to about

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Speaker 2: a twenty million dollars a year deal Apple Plus only

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Speaker 3: So your conference is over. That's the end of it.

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Speaker 3: The guy the boarded board.

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Speaker 2: Meeting at the University at Arizona, which actually I didn't

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Speaker 2: this is not a viable option for programs with options.

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Speaker 2: So sounds like both Arizonas could be Big twelve bound quickly,

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Speaker 4: Look, the fact of the matter is Arizona bear down Zago.

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Speaker 4: The started of my great Zago at the original six

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Speaker 4: pack and then to the PAC ten and then to

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Speaker 4: the PAC twelve. My affinity has spent many, many decades.

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Speaker 4: Big twelve is a good place for them because the

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Speaker 4: fact is it's a basketball school, good hoopspin, and it'll

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Speaker 4: be you know now, you'll be them at Kansas and Bay.

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Speaker 2: Oiler lots of Texas Tech play for national championship two

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma State's been good.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna get years. You got West Virginia, You're gonna

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Speaker 4: get some good hoops there. Yeah, that's gonna be the

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Speaker 4: hoops conference.

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Speaker 3: That's what they're well, they're just trying to get beat.

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Speaker 3: They're the catch all they could.

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Speaker 2: They might go upwards to thirty teams, and they're just

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Speaker 4: Have the six pack originally, right, weren't they?

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Speaker 2: All right, So we have a Hall of Fame game tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Long time that they've had that that core of teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: The Twisted Tea hotline for the voice of the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: He's the great Jim Donovan. It has brought to you

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Speaker 3: Keep it Twisted Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: I'll be damned, Jim if we're not going to start

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Speaker 2: where I want to start, and that's on the ponies

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Speaker 2: and the ponderosa. How's everything going this summer?

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Speaker 3: You know what way to go.

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Speaker 6: That's the way we always leave this on.

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Speaker 3: That's right, everything's going good.

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Speaker 6: Myself and the horses. We've had a lot of time

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Speaker 4: The answer Let everybody know how you're doing. And obviously

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Speaker 6: Well, I got to tell you, it's like a super

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt that's the way that you apply yourself

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Speaker 6: really faught his way through the waves of players on

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Speaker 6: the roster and all of a sudden he started to

441
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 6: make plays in games. And that's what you look for

442
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 6: tomorrow and night. Plus, when you see young quarterbacks come

443
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 6: out and get their first opportunity like Tim Kouch did

444
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety nine and Jorian Thompson Robinson will tomorrow,

445
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 6: that's a very special moment too, for him and for

446
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Speaker 6: everybody else.

447
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Speaker 2: I've just struck by the full circle feeling of it

448
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 2: of ninety nine and that first time that you that

449
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,680
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns had taken the football field after all

450
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 2: they had been through and you were there and you

451
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 2: experienced the emotion of that, and then you think about

452
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,400
Speaker 2: the full circle gym of Joe Thomas, the first modern

453
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 2: era brown or this incarnation of the Browns going into

454
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Like if you think about the

455
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 2: things that have been best about this organization over a

456
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 2: twenty plus year period, you and Joe are at the

457
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Speaker 2: top of that list. Deekes listens, so probably Deek two.

458
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 2: I mean a little bit of love my man Zee

459
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: over here. But I mean like Joe has been the

460
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 2: kind of the point of excellence through all of this.

461
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 2: And so to have a brown go in to see

462
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 2: Joe down there, and we all know what type of

463
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,719
Speaker 2: human he is. Boy that at you talk about electricity,

464
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna get that in spades tomorrow.

465
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, he was such a perfect fit for us here

466
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 6: in Cleveland and for the football team and the organization

467
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 6: and the position of left tackle. I mean, he was

468
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 6: just he was perfection, He really was, and I know

469
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 6: he strove for that every time he went out onto

470
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Speaker 6: the football field, and a lot of times it had

471
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 6: to be personal because the team was, you know, didn't

472
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 6: measure up to what his talent was at his particular crap.

473
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Speaker 6: But I will tell you this, You know, he's a

474
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 6: very very special part of Cleveland because he really embraced

475
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 6: the town and the town embraced him. What a perfect

476
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Speaker 6: choice that was. If you could do that all the

477
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Speaker 6: time in the d if you could pick a guy

478
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 6: and then you take him number three overall in the

479
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 6: draft and you put him out at a position like

480
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 6: left tackle, and then you come back eleven years later

481
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 6: and you say, wow, that works out really well. We'd

482
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 6: be at parades in February a lot because that's the

483
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 6: kind of player he was. And so I think a

484
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 6: lot of people are really excited about that.

485
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Speaker 7: And you're right.

486
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Speaker 6: I mean, we haven't had a lot to crow about

487
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 6: in the new era of the of the Cleveland Browns,

488
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 6: who've been through a lot of different weaving and bobbing,

489
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 6: but not with Joe Thomas. It was steady as you go,

490
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 6: straight ahead. Just a perfect, perfect player and a perfect

491
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Speaker 6: player in Cleveland.

492
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Speaker 4: It's exactly right. And this is going to be a

493
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Speaker 4: celebration of him. And obviously you hope this football team

494
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 4: goes out there and puts in a performance, you know,

495
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 4: befitting of a guy like the Hoff and you think

496
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 4: that you know, the Browns draft Dwan Jones, a guy

497
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 4: named Thanos who plays the tackle position, and this will

498
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: be his first opportunity to Brown's uniform. You just hope

499
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 4: that there it is, that something kind of there, And yeah,

500
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 4: I think this is going to be an incredible week

501
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 4: for this organization and really kind of all the football

502
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 4: eyes will be on the Cleveland Browns, and I think

503
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 4: it'll be fun for these young guys to know that

504
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 4: the whole eyes of the league and everybody around them

505
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 4: in this game. But when you think about this team, Jim,

506
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Speaker 4: and you think about what this year could be, kind

507
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: of where are you? Well, you know they were away

508
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 4: in the Greenbrier. They've come back. I know you got

509
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: a chance to talk with coach Stefanski. But kind of

510
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 4: when you look at this roster on paper and you

511
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 4: look at this coaching staff with the additions of Jim

512
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 4: Schwartz and above then Tron, it feels like it's all there.

513
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 4: What do you what do you? What do you make

514
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 4: of this team as we sit right here very early

515
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: in this training camp process.

516
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Speaker 6: Well, it looks really good and it really does. And

517
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 6: I think the adding of those two coordinators in those

518
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 6: areas are going to really help a great deal. I

519
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 6: think that defense is really talented, but it needs to

520
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 6: play better and it should play better. And I know

521
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 6: he coaches the heat, being Jim Schwartz, he coaches hard.

522
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 6: I think that United needs to be coached hard to

523
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 6: bring it out of them, because it's there, they just

524
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 6: has to be brought out of them. Special teams to

525
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 6: say same way, if the special teams unit performs the

526
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 6: way Bubba Ventron performed himself as a player, we'll be

527
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 6: five because he was that great at it and was

528
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 6: really a decider in some moments in games when special

529
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 6: teams had to do that, and he was able to

530
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 6: do that as a player. And I know he's brought

531
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 6: that to his coaching career, so that is good too.

532
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 6: But you know, Nathan, as I was talking to you

533
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 6: earlier in the day, and I'll say it here, I

534
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 6: think that you take a look at that roster and

535
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 6: it's ready to win now. The thing is and this

536
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 6: is a big step I think for them, and it

537
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 6: has been a tough step for them. I think when

538
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 6: you go each and every Sunday, I think the game

539
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 6: is sitting there on the table for either team, the

540
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 6: Browns and whoever they're playing on that particular day, and

541
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Speaker 6: the Browns have got to learn to be the team

542
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 6: that makes the play and takes the game. At this

543
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 6: point in the ballgame, I mean, it didn't matter or

544
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 6: last year, whether it was Jacoby Brissett or the last

545
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 6: six games with Deshaun Watson. If you really go through

546
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 6: those games, each one of them were sitting there on

547
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 6: the table and they just too many times were not

548
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 6: able to take the game away from the opposition. And

549
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 6: they're gonna have to learn how to do that. Now.

550
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 6: They've brought in players who have done that in other stops,

551
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 6: and maybe that's gonna help. But I think that's what

552
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 6: has to happen here. That's the wall they have to

553
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 6: break through. Once they do it, I think you know,

554
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 6: they'll take off because then their talent kicks in with

555
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 6: the confidence that hey, listen, we've been here before, we

556
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 6: now know how to do it, this is the way

557
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 6: to do it. And then you do it, and I

558
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 6: think that's where we are.

559
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Speaker 4: How helpful do you think or do you hope? I

560
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 4: think is maybe even a better word that you know.

561
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 4: You bring in Awan Thornhill, who's won two Super Bowls,

562
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 4: has only had a season end at either the AFC

563
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: Championship Game or the Super Bowl. You have brought in

564
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 4: Roddy McLoud who won a Super Bowl. Jim Schwartz. Jim

565
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: Schwartz won the Super Bowl obviously there with the Philadelphia Eagles.

566
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 4: In Obo Okuranquo, who won a Super Bowl with the Rams.

567
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 4: And so now you've got some guys, three of them

568
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 4: added to this defense. All of them will play meaningful

569
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: roles for this team who know what it takes to

570
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 4: win at the highest level. And I think that's that

571
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 4: fine line, right, that's the difference those teams that are

572
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 4: able to in those five plays a game, be on

573
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Speaker 4: the right side of three of them and win the

574
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: game ultimately. How helpful do you hope that will be?

575
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Speaker 4: And do you think that could be something that helps

576
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 4: this Brown seem be a team that's able to snatch

577
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 4: those victories off the table.

578
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I really do. I think you're right, and I

579
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 6: think it is important, and I think it's important to

580
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 6: have those guys on the field at that moment that

581
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 6: you and I are talking about, that moment when the

582
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 6: game is winnable. Okay, you know, the coaches can do

583
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 6: everything they can possibly do, but they're on the sidelines. Okay,

584
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 6: these guys are gonna be on the field. They're gonna

585
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 6: be in that huddle, they're gonna be facing that crowd

586
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 6: over in Pittsburgh when the place is going crazy, or

587
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 6: over in Baltimore, and they're gonna have to settle down

588
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 6: the other ten guys that are a lot along with them.

589
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 6: And kind of pull them through it until everybody.

590
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 5: Is able to do this.

591
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 6: So I think it is really important. I harken back

592
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 6: to I thought it was important when the Browns a

593
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 6: long time ago brought Jamal Lewison at running back. He

594
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 6: was at the tail end of his career, but he

595
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: gave them a great year the year they went ten

596
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 6: and six, and I think he helped them at times

597
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 6: because he had played in big games in Baltimore. Joe

598
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 6: Juravicius was a really good guy for guys like Brayln

599
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 6: Edwards and Kellen Winslow junior that they needed to grow

600
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 6: up because Joe had played on that great Tampa team

601
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 6: and it had been with the Giants before that. Those

602
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 6: are the kind of guys that really helped them on

603
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 6: those particular Browns teams in those dicey moments where young

604
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 6: players can say, you know, I don't know if we

605
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 6: can do this, and then too many times we say, well,

606
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 6: we didn't do it, and then we're reflecting back on

607
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 6: what went wrong. Suddenly you gotta have guys to get

608
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 6: them to the point where this went right and we

609
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 6: can all do this now.

610
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Speaker 2: David, I'm interested if you have I'm gonna This happens

611
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: to me. It happened to me last night walking the

612
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: dog in the neighborhood. It happens to me five or

613
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: six times a day. I'm sure it happens to Z

614
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 2: all the time. I'm sure it happens to you. This

615
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 2: is the way that the conversation goes. Guy comes up

616
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: to me, how did the Browns look? I say, well,

617
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: they look great. I mean, they're they're pretty loaded. I

618
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: think they have the most talent they've had since the

619
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: late eighties. They go, oh yeah, but it's the same

620
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: old Browns or whatever. I'm like, So I finally had

621
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: a point where I'm like stopping them, like, listen, I can't.

622
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. You know exactly from five

623
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: to sixteen. You lived through it, Nathan lived through a.

624
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: Lot of it.

625
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: What I can tell you, though, is you have to

626
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: accept that the talent on this roster is more than

627
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: any talent that has been here since nineteen eighty eight

628
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: or eighty nine.

629
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Speaker 3: Or it's been a long time. I think that's a

630
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: fair statement.

631
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: And it can also be true that this is the

632
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: toughest AFC we've ever seen. Yes, And so even if

633
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: you have it all, it might not be enough to

634
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: go beat Kansas City in an AFC championship game.

635
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 3: That's how hard it is.

636
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: And I'm just curious, like, when that happens to you,

637
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: how do you describe that circumstance. How do you answer

638
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: that question?

639
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I kind of answer it the same way

640
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 6: you answer it. I mean, you know, I think that

641
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 6: people feel that you're so close when you say, well, listen,

642
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 6: they're really good. They look great on paper, They've made

643
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 6: some great additions. Watson's going to be one thousand percent

644
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 6: probably better than he was in the six games last year.

645
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 6: Certainly understandable. You know, Nichubb is Nick Chubb, Jim Schwartz

646
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 6: is here. That defense is going to finally have some

647
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 6: real sharp teeth to it. You know. All of that

648
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 6: sounds good, and then there's a you know, you say that,

649
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 6: but I think a lot of people then because they've

650
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 6: been worn down, I think by the disappointment through the years.

651
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 6: I think then people think, well, you're so close to

652
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 6: the team. Of course you're going to say that, but

653
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 6: I you know, I think then they just have to

654
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 6: take you know the fact that really you're telling them

655
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 6: what you see and what you see is yes, your

656
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 6: closeness allows you to be around them a great deal.

657
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Speaker 6: But it really does look good, and it does look

658
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Speaker 6: different that it has in the past. And they you know,

659
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Speaker 6: they just look better than they have and they look

660
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 6: more talented, and they look deeper. You know, there's a starter,

661
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Speaker 6: and there might be two other guys behind that starter

662
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Speaker 6: who could certainly go in and play if needed to.

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Speaker 6: And so I just think that you know, the proof

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Speaker 6: is seeing it. Everybody needs to see it. They need

665
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Speaker 6: to see it against Cincinnati on opening Day, and they

666
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Speaker 6: you know, the month of September is going to give

667
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Speaker 6: you a very very good view of how this is

668
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Speaker 6: going to go with those four games and those three

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Speaker 6: games being in the division. And so I think people

670
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Speaker 6: really do both want to get excited about it, but

671
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Speaker 6: I think they've been worn down a little bit by

672
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Speaker 6: the team and the franchise not meeting expectations and the disappointment.

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Speaker 4: Of the Mayfield short era.

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Speaker 6: Obj things like that, that they're just saying, Okay, I'm

675
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Speaker 6: gonna just take a half step back. I'm ready to

676
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Speaker 6: get on the bandwagon, and we're ready to welcome them

677
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Speaker 6: to it. There's plenty of things on a board they

678
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Speaker 6: have to see it play out.

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what. Yeah, we know, that's kind of

680
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Speaker 4: all the time. That's what I say to people now, say,

681
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Speaker 4: it's all there. DeShawn looks great. He's so much more

682
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Speaker 4: comfortably talked about. They loaded up the defense. We've got

683
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Speaker 4: a pass rush, we got a great back end. We

684
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Speaker 4: got Jim Schwartz, we got Nick Chubb. We've got the

685
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Speaker 4: best offensive line in football. We've got you know, three

686
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Speaker 4: receivers now who you feel great about in Amari and

687
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: Elijah Bore and DPJ. You got the chief. You brought

688
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Speaker 4: an Akins, he brought in Goodwin and hopefully not on

689
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Speaker 4: what he's able to go. It's all there. This is

690
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Speaker 4: a team that's gonna be BA. It's binary do they

691
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Speaker 4: win or do they not? And to your guys, both

692
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Speaker 4: of your point, you know, I talked with wan Thornhill

693
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Speaker 4: while we were at the Greenbrier and he said, to me,

694
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Speaker 4: you no position for position, this is the most talented

695
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Speaker 4: team I've been on. He said, I haven't even told

696
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Speaker 4: the play. I haven't told the team that yet. But

697
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Speaker 4: he goes, if you break it down by position by position,

698
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Speaker 4: this is the most talented team I've been on. They said,

699
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Speaker 4: obviously they had Pat Mahomes, but there's no reason why

700
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Speaker 4: this team can't be great. What's just insane about what's

701
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Speaker 4: going on right now is there are and we've said

702
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Speaker 4: it the numbers before, there are thirteen teams in the

703
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Speaker 4: AFC right now that believe fully that they're going to

704
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Speaker 4: the playoffs. And there are eight teams in the A

705
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Speaker 4: se alone right now that fully believes they have a

706
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Speaker 4: team that can win the Super Bowl. So it's going

707
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Speaker 4: to come down to the teams that do it. And

708
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Speaker 4: that's what this Browns team is going to be judged on.

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Speaker 4: Do they do it? Do they in those moments that

710
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Speaker 4: Utah eloquently described earlier? Do the Browns? Are they the

711
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Speaker 4: team that sees those moments that come through in the clutch,

712
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Speaker 4: get that momentum, that belief and then be able to

713
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Speaker 4: actually maximize their talent And if they can, this sky's

714
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Speaker 4: the limit for this team. There's nothing that this team

715
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Speaker 4: cannot accomplish.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Doug Deeakon tells a great story about

717
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 6: that magical cardiac kid year back in nineteen eighty and

718
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Speaker 6: the evolution of Brian's side at quarterback, and he said

719
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Speaker 6: it just got to a point did week in and

720
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Speaker 6: week out, they knew they were going to be up

721
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Speaker 6: against it in the fourth quarter. Whether they were at

722
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Speaker 6: the old Stadium or wherever they were that year, uplying

723
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Speaker 6: on the road, they knew they were going to be

724
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Speaker 6: in trouble in the fourth quarter. It was just that's

725
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Speaker 6: the way the script read. But they also knew that

726
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Speaker 6: he walked into that huddle and it was last drive

727
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Speaker 6: time and they needed a touchdown, and he would walk

728
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Speaker 6: into that huddle as cool as a cucumber, and they

729
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 6: were very cool along with him because they knew that

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Speaker 6: it was gonna be okay. And that's exactly what he

731
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Speaker 6: would say. You would walk in and he would say,

732
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Speaker 6: all right, listen, we gotta go down and score, which

733
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Speaker 6: we are going to do, and we'll do it this way.

734
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Speaker 6: And that's I think the step that the Browns hopefully

735
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Speaker 6: are right on the doorstep of being able to walk

736
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Speaker 6: through that door and be able to be like that.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's very, very important.

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Speaker 2: It is so great to talk to you, sir. We

739
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: can't wait, as he can't wait to work with you tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you tomorrow. I can't wait

741
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: to hear you on the call. It is great to

742
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: hear you doing well and always special when you join us.

743
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: Give our best to the Ponies.

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Speaker 7: I will.

745
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Speaker 6: I'm only feet away from them. I'll definitely do that.

746
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on and I'll see you tomorrow night.

747
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Speaker 5: All right.

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749
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Speaker 5: I just took off right where he was when he

762
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 5: left the mini camp. Really just did a lot.

763
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Speaker 8: Of green things there at the end of the spring

764
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Speaker 8: and picked up right where he left off. So we

765
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Speaker 8: got a lot of good work there.

766
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Speaker 9: With Amari and Marquis being out for part of part

767
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Speaker 9: of of that that kind down there. What did you

768
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Speaker 9: see how some of the younger guys stepping up and

769
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Speaker 9: you know, what.

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Speaker 5: Were we how we think? Sure? I thought Elijah had

771
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Speaker 5: an outstanding camp.

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Speaker 8: He's a guy that can do a lot of things,

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Speaker 8: very skilled receiver inside outside, can do.

774
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Speaker 5: Stuff out of the backfield. That was impressive to see

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Speaker 5: for a rookie.

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Speaker 8: I thought Cedric had a really good camp, coming in

777
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Speaker 8: and learning the system, putting all the pieces together. Had

778
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Speaker 8: some mistakes, but really made some plays on the ball,

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Speaker 8: which is good to see.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 8: Dalen Baldwin's mister reliable. He's out there and you can

782
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Speaker 8: play him in multiple positions. So those young guys got

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Speaker 8: a lot of good reps and did some good stuff.

784
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Speaker 7: How do you go about kind of filling that void

785
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Speaker 7: that Marquise was supposed to fill right that deep rough

786
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Speaker 7: I think his stretches the field.

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Speaker 8: Sure, well, we just got to find somebody else that

788
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 8: can come in and do it. You know, we have

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Speaker 8: able bodies on the on the on the roster right now.

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Speaker 8: You know, Schwartz, he's a guy that can take the

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Speaker 8: top off. Jalen Darden's a guy that can take the

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Speaker 8: top off. Elijah when we need him to, can take

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Speaker 8: the top off. So we have bodies that that style

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Speaker 8: of play. You know, hopefully we can get Marque's back

795
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Speaker 8: and everything's gonna be okay there.

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Speaker 3: But you look at full speed retzee drills that the defense.

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Speaker 8: Of course, yeah, absolutely, you know, and I told the

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Speaker 8: guys this morning, it's hard.

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Speaker 5: It's hard down there.

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Speaker 8: You get inside that five yard line, that eight yard line,

801
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Speaker 8: and it's it's a past drill, it's it's it's skeleton.

802
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 8: The situations. We had four point plays the other day.

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Speaker 8: We're not gonna hand them all off from the eighth

804
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Speaker 8: to Nick Chubb and let him run in. So it

805
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 8: is hard that the space is smaller, you know, the

806
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 8: the open receivers aren't as open. There's contested catches, there's

807
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 8: high balls in the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 5: And it's a good challenge for us.

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Speaker 8: You know, we are gonna continue to you know, get

810
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Speaker 8: good at what we do exactly. And then when they

811
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Speaker 8: played great coverage it's hard. It's hard to win down

812
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 8: there in tight spaces. But I told the guys this

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00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 8: morning again, we're not game playing it against our defense.

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Speaker 5: We're not trying to change plays to win the win

815
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Speaker 5: the drill.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna run our plays and get really good at

817
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 8: those and then remember, hey, we have running backs. We

818
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 8: have things that we're gonna do down in there and

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Speaker 8: not just drop back and throw the ball every time

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Speaker 8: running absolutely, And I know you guys are.

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Speaker 7: Still a work in progress, but what do you like

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Speaker 7: about this offensive group right now?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 5: Uh work is the first thing.

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Speaker 8: I know, we're work in progress, but those guys come

826
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Speaker 8: out and they work every day. It's really been impressive.

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Speaker 8: We've had some really really good two spot walk throughs

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Speaker 8: in the afternoon periods where the young guys get to

829
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Speaker 8: go over and call the same plays that the.

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Speaker 5: The ones are on the other field.

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Speaker 8: You know, we've worked blitz, we've worked no huddle, QB runs,

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Speaker 8: We've done all kinds of stuff. I think just you

833
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 8: know what we've got accomplished in that short time of

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Speaker 8: eight days.

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Speaker 5: I think we feel really good that it was very productive.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Schwartz had a tough year last year.

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Speaker 7: What is his attitude like?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 8: You know he comes out and works when you know

840
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Speaker 8: when he gets out there, he flies around and he

841
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 8: definitely shows you the speed that you need. It's just

842
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 8: you know, he's just got to make the place when

843
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 8: they come to him, and he will.

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Speaker 7: With Elijah, obviously, you guys are using him all over

845
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 7: the place. What do you like best about him? What

846
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 7: he's lined up in the backfield.

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Speaker 8: His ability to one to carry the ball and then

848
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Speaker 8: run routes out of that backfield. May you know, if

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00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 8: they want to leave a linebacker in the game and

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00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 8: try to match up with that, and obviously the advantage

851
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 8: would go to him. But he does a lot of

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00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 8: good things out of the backfield. You know, we had

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00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 8: uh Randall Cobb and Green Bay and he was in

854
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 8: the backfield a lot as a ball carry, as a

855
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 8: bubble catcher. All the things you could do free release

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00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 8: of motion him out and create empties.

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00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: So he has that versatility. We can hand him the

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00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 5: ball as well.

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Speaker 7: Do you think you need to hand it to him

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Speaker 7: like your defenses to respect that he might get the ball?

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Speaker 5: I would think so. I think so.

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Speaker 9: It's number eighty players plus season in the spring.

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Speaker 5: Watkins yes, does he look like a player too.

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Speaker 8: Really impressive. Came in late and really picked up the offense. Uh,

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Speaker 8: very few mental errors. Seems to have a good grasp

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Speaker 8: of it, makes plays when they come to him, and

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Speaker 8: he could He's another guy that could run. So I've

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Speaker 8: been impressed with his ability to pick up the offense

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Speaker 8: as quickly as he has.

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Speaker 10: You.

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Speaker 11: I'm sure it's like the most quarterbacks because montas great.

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Speaker 11: But you know, I do see Deshaun doing so many

873
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 11: different games after practice, you know, doorkas just arm angles.

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Speaker 8: And hand bass, foot work and.

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00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: All that stuff.

876
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 11: Is he like way up there just to terms with

877
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 11: grinding and looking extra and over.

878
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 8: I saw the same thing you saw, you know, those

879
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 8: are those are drills that he stays out late. I

880
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 8: think he was maybe one or two guys left on

881
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 8: the field the other day.

882
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 5: You know, that's that's really the guys.

883
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 8: That are great are the guys that are motivated to

884
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 8: work until you know they've they've finished the day. And

885
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 8: his day didn't finish when practice was over. So you

886
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 8: want your leaders to set that example and work extra hard,

887
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 8: especially at that position.

888
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 7: The opportunity to be knocking for Jerome Fod to be

889
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 7: that number two back and behind him. Just what have

890
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 7: you seen from him? And you know what dimension do

891
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 7: you think he can rant an admiral?

892
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I see a young player that's really matured over

893
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 8: the off season and starting to come into his own

894
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 8: as far as his understanding of the system, especially in

895
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 8: the protection phase. He has ability also to come out

896
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 8: of the backfield to make plays in the past game,

897
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 8: and he has some really great feet and.

898
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 5: Vision in the run game. So excited to see him

899
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 5: as we move forward.

900
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 8: Feel very comfortable with him as our backup right now, how.

901
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 7: Would you talk about how do you look at it?

902
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 8: It seemed like a diminished value of running backs, you

903
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 8: know when you like the Dalvin.

904
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 7: Could Kareem Zicco. Well, how do you see that diminished value?

905
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 8: That's not really in my area. I know we have

906
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 8: a good one and I'm happy that we do. You know,

907
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 8: that's that's where that is. It's it seems to have

908
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 8: devalued over the you know, past ten years. But I

909
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 8: guess I would say if you went into a season

910
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 8: and it didn't have one of a running back, you'd

911
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 8: be in bad shape.

912
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 5: So we're fortunate that we have a great one here.

913
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 7: I know Jordanaans hasn't practiced the last place, But what

914
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 7: does he add to this?

915
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 8: You know, his strength obviously is in the past game

916
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 8: his ability to run vertically with speed and his ability

917
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 8: to make plays on the ball. His hands are strong,

918
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 8: had a big catch over top of a defender the

919
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 8: other day.

920
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 5: Things like that, he runs really good route, strong hands.

921
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 9: Alex, Alex, We're probably gonna see a lot of Killen

922
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 9: and dt are on Thursday. How what have you seen

923
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 9: out of both of them in terms of their matuation,

924
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 9: their growth? Sure that you're kind of excited to see,

925
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 9: you know, out there on Thursday.

926
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 8: Absolutely, both those guys have had a really good camp.

927
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 8: You know, they've had limited reps at times, kind of

928
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 8: switching days back and forth between who gets those out

929
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 8: of reps? You know, for for dtr just continue to grow.

930
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 8: Kellen's a little bit of a head as far as

931
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 8: mentally being in the system longer. But both those guys,

932
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 8: they go out there, they they they're exceptional with their footwork,

933
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 8: their timing and their.

934
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 5: Ability to get through progression.

935
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 8: So excited to see that live and then add the

936
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 8: element of them using their legs as well.

937
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a fun night to ask you.

938
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 11: About Sean using his legs. What is your philosophy in

939
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 11: terms of how much you can run your destrictive balance

940
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 11: between keeping you safe and letting him use that talent

941
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 11: that he does.

942
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 6: How do you vote?

943
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 8: It's a natural thing for him, you know, when he

944
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 8: feels that he goes. I think that's something that that's

945
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 8: that's fine with us. Always encouraging him to continue through

946
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 8: the progression, don't skip a step, and then if they're

947
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 8: you get to the last part of that progression and

948
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 8: there's nothing there, then take off. So continue to coach

949
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 8: through the progression and then allowing him to be be

950
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 8: special in them when he does.

951
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 5: Escape out How to feel by any of you guys

952
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 5: at all? How the starters, how about it is?

953
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 8: It's good and it's great that they're getting the rep Thursday.

954
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 8: The practices have been great again. I can't say enough

955
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 8: about James Hudson. He's a guy now in year three

956
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 8: that's really figured it out and really matured, is becoming

957
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 8: a really good pro And then Weakley on the other

958
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 8: side's done a really nice job as well. So I

959
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 8: like our depth there. You know, it'll be important these

960
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 8: preseason games to see them play.

961
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 7: Alex CC, I know, I think when you guys drafted him, I.

962
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 6: Think it was Andrew like described his demeanor as he's

963
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 6: gonna work first and not really talk.

964
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 8: I guess have you seen that through these early you know,

965
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 8: a thousand percent he just he just goes out and

966
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 8: grinds do this great job. All those receivers. We had

967
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 8: a practice the other day, their effort down the field

968
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 8: blocking just to just it was inspiring and make sure

969
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 8: we pointed out to everybody to see those guys. They

970
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 8: work hard and the CEO does a great job with

971
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 8: those guys getting them ready to play. And said the

972
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 8: guy that's a you know, he's not gonna say anything.

973
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 8: He's gonna go out and do his job.

974
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 3: Thanks, guys, all right, there's a VP. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

975
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: you're there a VP from the podium yesterday.

976
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: One thing that you know, I noticed, it's it's just

977
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: a tremendous difference. It's one that you don't think about

978
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: that much unless you're just around it a lot. And

979
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: obviously you noticed it, but you had a whole week

980
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: more training camp than I did. One thing that jumped

981
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: out to me is you're all running the same stuff.

982
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: You know, last year it was really two offenses that

983
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: you had to create and now. And by the way,

984
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 2: Jacobysett was awesome. He was an awesome human and awesome leader.

985
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: He played great, But the offense then was different than

986
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: what you would have done had you had Watson the

987
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: whole time. Obviously different skill set, and now they're all

988
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: kind of mirrors of what Watson is.

989
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 4: And the hard part too, was you mentioned Jacoby played

990
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 4: great and was a heck of a leader, and so

991
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson, you know, as the star quarterback, is the

992
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: leader of the team, but he had to take a

993
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: back seat to Jacoby in because it was Jacoby's team

994
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: for eleven games. And this year everything is all moving

995
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: in one direction, offensively, leadership wise, all of it. And

996
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: I think that's why you're seeing, you know, an offense

997
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: that is going to be better this year. I think

998
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 4: you're really going to see that. You know, when Deshaun

999
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 4: Watson takes the feel, as Jim Donovan said, you know,

1000
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: it'll be a thousand perspective. Yes, he is going to

1001
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 4: be significantly better and look like the three time Pro

1002
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: bowler who once led the NFL in passing. And when

1003
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 4: you pair that with this defense. That's why you can

1004
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: get excited about this football team. But again, it's going

1005
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: to come down to them going out there and do

1006
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: and doing it and being what they are on paper.

1007
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 4: As Jim Schwartz said, and I love it when he said,

1008
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: you know, we know we've made it. When the hole

1009
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 4: is greater than the sum of the parts. That's when

1010
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: you've got a football team that can do something. And

1011
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: that's what the Browns. That's the goal for this year.

1012
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 4: That's what this is all about. All of this work

1013
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: that's being put in brick by brick by brick is

1014
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 4: to that end, and certainly we all hope that's how

1015
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 4: it ultimately pans out right for this football team.

1016
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: I also think that, like it's two separate conversations, there

1017
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: is a conversation that can be had now and I

1018
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: encourage you as fans to have it of being excited

1019
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: about Elijah and being excited about what's happening in the

1020
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: second area, what's happening in the front side of this defense,

1021
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: what's happening in camp. With the catch that Tillman had

1022
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: yesterday that happened right in front of us, With the

1023
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: way that Watson looks.

1024
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 5: All of that.

1025
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: You can be excited about all of those things. And

1026
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: that's one fun plane of conversation. On another one that's

1027
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: playing out horizontally along with it, parallel along with it,

1028
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: is that one that you just mentioned, which is, we

1029
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: know it has to happen in the regular season, but

1030
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: you can have fun.

1031
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: Along that walk that path.

1032
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: You know, everything doesn't have to be, well, what are

1033
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: they gonna do against Cincinnati? We all know that. Everything

1034
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: in the building knows that. Bring the NFL knows that

1035
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: what do you do against Cincinnati? What do you do

1036
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh? You got Tennessee and Baltimore to start first four?

1037
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: All of that.

1038
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: Last year we said, oh you got it, first six.

1039
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: What's the record got to be? We'll do all that

1040
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: stuff again. All of that stuff is the heavy stuff.

1041
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: But in week two of full camp, like, you can't

1042
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: have these little victories.

1043
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: And by the way, just because Elijah.

1044
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: Moore is great and he's been great, that does necessarily

1045
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: mean that he's gonna he's gonna be a fifth dard receiver.

1046
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be that's not in the cards. But

1047
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: he's just something we haven't had before around here in

1048
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: a while. So it's okay to be excited about that,

1049
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: and also understand that doesn't mean we're giving him a

1050
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: gold jacket.

1051
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 4: Right, And I think that's very fair. And you know,

1052
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 4: we've seen in training camps before where guys have come

1053
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 4: in and you know, it look like, for example, Austin

1054
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: Hooper's first year, that Austin Hooper was gonna catch a

1055
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: thousand balls and score twenty touchdowns and then that never

1056
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: manifested itself in the regular season. But I think this

1057
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: time you have a team that is going to put

1058
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 4: the ball in the air a lot more. And yes,

1059
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 4: Elijah has looked great, and there's so many easy what

1060
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 4: I would call long layups or long handoff ways to

1061
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 4: get the football into his hands. And so you get

1062
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: him the ball in his hands, get him in space,

1063
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: give Hi an opportunity to make plays. But you got Donovan,

1064
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 4: you got Amari, you got David Ajoku. You know, I

1065
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: don't think people will realize or maybe it feels like

1066
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: kind of have forgotten, Like Amari Cooper had seventy eight catches,

1067
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty yards and nine touchdowns last year,

1068
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: average fifteen yards a catch, which was the second highest

1069
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: of his career. The nine touchdowns were the highest of

1070
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: his career. Like, he's gonna get a ton of targets.

1071
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: DPJ was over eight hundred yards last year. He's only

1072
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: gotten better every year. He's gonna get a lot of targets.

1073
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 4: The Chief last year had a career high fifty eight

1074
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: catches six hundred and twenty yards. That was the second

1075
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: most of his career. And then now you add and

1076
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 4: really it was a three person receiving corps. Now you

1077
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 4: add in that fourth guy lines more. Now you add

1078
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 4: in you know, hopefully Marquis Goodwin, who's gonna give you, you know,

1079
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: probably three hundred to four hundred yards, But do it

1080
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 4: at fifteen plus yards a catch, catch, a couple of cutchdowns,

1081
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: create space for everybody, you know. Do I think Watson's

1082
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 4: gonna throw for the forty eight hundred yards that he

1083
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: did when he led the league in passing playing in

1084
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: a dome on a team that was behind a lot. No,

1085
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: But should he go over four thousand yards this year? Absolutely? Yeah,

1086
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 4: And so there will be there's stuff out there for

1087
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: people to go get. But we've got I think a

1088
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: lot of miles defeat and I think what you're gonna

1089
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: see as a team that on a week to week basis,

1090
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: you're gonna be able to exploit whatever is left over

1091
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 4: from what the opponent's trying to take away because we're

1092
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: finally an offense where you just can't take it all away.

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00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I do think because you were going as

1094
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: you were going through that, I was just gonna say,

1095
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: you know, Nick Chubb, Amari, DPJ Miles, there were these

1096
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: remarkable individual seasons last year that happened, but it was

1097
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: all done under the cloud of everything off the field,

1098
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: and so you never it was kind of like, can

1099
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: we just get through this, Like we were excited for

1100
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: the last six games for Deshaun and then you know,

1101
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of rust to it, and so

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00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: at that point you're just like, let's just get to

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00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. And so it's been a long We understand,

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00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: it's been a long wait for all of you. It's

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00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: been a long wait for you and I you know,

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00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean like we want to get to something we

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00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: don't want to speak through August for the in the

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00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 2: personal life side of it, but in terms of like

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00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: getting to see this.

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Speaker 3: Team play football.

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00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to see I'm excited to see what

1112
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: they look like in Philly. I mean, I think you're

1113
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: gonna know, we'll know a lot based on the way

1114
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: that one goes. I agree, we felt like that. I

1115
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: agree last year that there was Yeah, if that goes,

1116
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: if you can hold your own in the trenches with

1117
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: that group, then yeah, and.

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00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 4: You can match with their skill, you can throw the

1119
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: football on them, all of those things. You know, we

1120
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Speaker 4: can pass block against that line as you mentioned in

1121
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: the trenches. Yeah, that one's gonna tell us quite a bit.

1122
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: And I think that one will be those those are

1123
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: gonna be. That's a big week here. And I don't

1124
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 4: think it's I'm expecting to go in there and get

1125
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 4: have a positive vibe coming out of it. I don't

1126
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: think we're going to go in there and it not

1127
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 4: look good for us. Yeah, I really do. I mean

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00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: I think that we can match, we can match player

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Speaker 4: for player with with anybody. Honestly.

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00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the that's the that will be the first

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00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: major measuring stick is then.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, you heard from a VP, we heard

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Speaker 4: one of the great friends of this program. Brown Special

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Speaker 4: Teams Coordinator Bubba Ventron coach, Welcome to game week. How

1145
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 4: are you.

1146
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 10: Feeling excited, really excited to get.

1147
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: Going When you think back to your playing days, do

1148
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: you remember your first preseason game and what that meant

1149
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 4: to you, what you were thinking about, what you were

1150
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 4: feeling going into it.

1151
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I remember, like it was yesterday. We actually played.

1152
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 5: I was in New England.

1153
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 10: We played at Cleveland or I'm sorry, at Cincinnati, and

1154
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 10: you know I didn't play at all in the first half.

1155
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 10: The first play of the second half, on the kickoff,

1156
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 10: I come down make a tackle, so I'm like all

1157
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 10: juiced up. The second play I get in is at

1158
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 10: a punt play. I was playing gunner. I illegally aligned

1159
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 10: on the line of scrimmage. I released the wrong way

1160
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 10: and I got hemmed up pretty bad, so it was

1161
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 10: not a good rep. So extremely hot, extremely low, and.

1162
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Speaker 12: Then the rest of the game was okay.

1163
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: So what do you tell these guys, Because I think

1164
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: there's something unique about for you being in the position

1165
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 4: you are, the fact you were able to stay in

1166
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 4: this league for as long as you did doing special teams,

1167
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: knowing that there are gonna be a lot of guys

1168
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 4: playing for you, that these special teams performances in these

1169
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 4: four preseason games could be the difference between being guy

1170
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Speaker 4: fifty one, fifty two to fifty three on the roster,

1171
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Speaker 4: being on the practice squad, or maybe not even being

1172
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Speaker 4: in the league at all.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And I would say, especially with like this first game,

1174
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 10: these guys are going to be playing a lot of reps,

1175
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Speaker 10: both on defense, right to special teams, offense right to

1176
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 10: special teams. One of the biggest things I feel like

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Speaker 10: is you have to focus. You have to really focus

1178
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 10: on your fundamentals, your footwork, and really lock in because

1179
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 10: you're gonna be physically tired, which creates mental fatigue. Like

1180
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 10: you have to lock in and be focused. Had that

1181
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 10: discussion on those guys today.

1182
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: And for most of the guys. I'm sure they have

1183
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 4: some experience, but for some of the guys in there,

1184
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: this is their first time probably playing Special teams right.

1185
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 12: It is foreign to everyone.

1186
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 10: I mean, the young players have never experienced anything like

1187
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 10: the NFL kicking game. It's completely different than the college game.

1188
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 10: So the more reps so we can get these guys

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Speaker 10: today in practice, we're gonna have a it'll be pretty

1190
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Speaker 10: much a live period on both kickoff return, kickoff, kickoff return,

1191
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 10: pump up return. The more reps we can get these

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00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 10: guys where they're seeing it fast, the better.

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00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, speaking of seeing it fast, I'll take us

1194
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 4: back to the Greenbrier. The first day in pads was

1195
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Speaker 4: a pad acclamation for everybody but the Special Teams unit,

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Speaker 4: because you guys had some of those one on one

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Speaker 4: drills that I think were the most exciting thing we

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Speaker 4: saw out there, perhaps even all week. When you see

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Speaker 4: the hunger your guys have. And I'll go a couple

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00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 4: of young guys that sit out to me. Dea body

1201
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: stood out to me, and then Martin number sixty nine

1202
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 4: was absolutely just trucking people. When you see guys willing

1203
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 4: to put their bodies on the line, bring that physicality,

1204
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 4: bring that pass. How fired up does that get you?

1205
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 10: You got I'm getting like chills with you talking throat

1206
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 10: because the drill was good and we got a lot

1207
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 10: accomplished in that drill. You can see aggressiveness, physicality, you know, technique, footwork,

1208
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 10: you know understand how we're you know, using our blocking leverage.

1209
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 10: So it was good to have that drill. We're gonna

1210
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 10: do a lot of that stuff, half line stuff when

1211
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 10: we go into punt in our protection stuff to make

1212
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 10: sure guys are.

1213
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 5: Protecting the right way. Yeah, it was.

1214
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 7: It was good.

1215
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 10: And those guys are all and everyone's working extremely hard

1216
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 10: to try to get gain every you know, knowledge for

1217
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 10: the techniques and schemes we're moving into.

1218
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 4: When you have a guy like Jordan Kanashik, who you've

1219
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 4: already talked about, is just such a professional at what

1220
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 4: he does. When you can see him in an undrafted

1221
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 4: free agent, like my mood to your body, go at

1222
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 4: it like that, have a back and forth both getting

1223
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: great reps getting great work. Does that ad tell you

1224
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 4: a little bit about the young fellow, but also be

1225
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: to see that the season vet is he's taking nothing

1226
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: for granted at all, going out there and being a

1227
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 4: great example I think for everybody else. Yeah, I think.

1228
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 10: I mean, Jordan just does a great job of you know, understanding.

1229
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 10: First off, he understands that he's his role, right, he

1230
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 10: understands that every rep is critical, and he's a true professional.

1231
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 10: You know, he's going to go out execute as best

1232
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 10: he can and he's going to come back and give

1233
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 10: the guy. He's going against the same amount of work

1234
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 10: that the guy's given him and coverage. So you know,

1235
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 10: really excited to work with him.

1236
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 5: So excited for it.

1237
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: I know you are excited, all right, talk a little

1238
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 4: bit about the kicking game that gets people excited. Kade York.

1239
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 4: What have you seen from him? Obviously, just a tremendous

1240
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 4: natural talent.

1241
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 10: The thing that I've been happy with, you know, both

1242
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 10: in the both in springing to this point in the

1243
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 10: after the first ten days or so, the consistency has

1244
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 10: been really good. You know, not a lot of variation

1245
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 10: in his mechanics. He's keeping things simple, So that's been

1246
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 10: a that's been a big positive. The operation has been

1247
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 10: consistent and that obviously makes it easier on the kicker.

1248
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 10: So those those other two guys have done a really

1249
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 10: really nice job. Uh, you know, making it easy for him.

1250
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: When you have that battery and that consistency, you know

1251
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 4: with Charlie and then obviously Court. We know Joe was here,

1252
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 4: but Court had a very nice year for us last year.

1253
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: It's at the all time franchise record and punt average

1254
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 4: over forty eight yards of punt. But when you have

1255
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 4: that consistency, how helpful is that? I would imagine swapping

1256
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 4: the long snappers or swapping holders. That would affect a

1257
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 4: kicker year in and year out for sure.

1258
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 10: And you know we're getting we're getting a lot of

1259
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 10: work and we want to we want to make that

1260
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 10: operation as like you said, we want to make that

1261
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 10: we want that thing to be as consistent as it

1262
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 10: can be with as little variation as possible, and that's

1263
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 10: going to help us in the in the end.

1264
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 4: As a longtime Special Teams veteran, where you always impressed,

1265
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 4: So I'm impressed. Maybe for you, you're like, yeah, whatever,

1266
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,959
Speaker 4: at the ability of a long snapper to not only

1267
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 4: snap the ball accurately, but to get it so they

1268
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: can get like basically the lace is exactly where they

1269
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: want it eight yards back. Because to me that just

1270
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 4: seems crazy.

1271
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 10: It's it's time on task, it's reps, it's you know,

1272
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 10: there's a lot of detail that's involved with that, you know,

1273
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 10: quarter ro tap, like there's terminol that we use, and

1274
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 10: for him to be able to have done it so

1275
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 10: long and do it so well is impressive in itself.

1276
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 10: And then I mean when you talk about a snapper

1277
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 10: and the responsibilities, whenever you're talking about the punt, you

1278
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 10: know you're not only are you throwing the ball back,

1279
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 10: but you have to protect and then you have to cover.

1280
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 10: So it's not an easy position. It's definitely, you know,

1281
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 10: an underappreciated, you know spot on the roster.

1282
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 4: I would say, how excited do you see actual returns?

1283
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 4: Because in camp, like you catch it, you take your

1284
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 4: few first few steps, they kind of run through and

1285
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 4: then that's it. But now you have a chance to

1286
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 4: actually see some returns. How you're feeling about the return

1287
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 4: game And you know, I don't know if we'll see

1288
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 4: Jaquim yet, but when you are get a chance to

1289
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 4: work with a guy like that who has been an

1290
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 4: All Pro, been a pro bowler, you know, how excited

1291
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 4: do you see this return game actually go?

1292
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 10: We're gonna have You're going to see a lot of

1293
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 10: young players this week, and we're excited about them. We're

1294
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 10: excited about the guys that are going to be able

1295
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 10: to block for them, and hopefully we can, you know,

1296
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 10: make some plays. The big emphasis in this game is

1297
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 10: play with good fundamentals and technique.

1298
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 5: Don't make it too don't make it too complicated. It's

1299
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 5: a simple.

1300
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 10: It's an extremely simple game plan, and play smart and discipline,

1301
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 10: like we don't want to have bad football is bad technique,

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Speaker 10: which creates penalties.

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Speaker 5: We don't want to have any penalties.

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Speaker 10: So that's a big emphasis for us this week, and

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Speaker 10: I'll hit that the next two days before we play.

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Speaker 4: Given that we have that extra preseason game, more reps

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00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 4: for special teams obviously, Are you going to try anything

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00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: out with some of the rule changes and kind of

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00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 4: do some experimenting here?

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00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 10: I would say to be determined. I don't feel like

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Speaker 10: in this first game you're gonna see much of that.

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Speaker 5: I don't. I want.

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Speaker 10: What I want to see right now is I want

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00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 10: to see the young players that haven't had in game

1315
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 10: experience get that experience. I want to make sure that

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00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 10: we feel good about the fundamentals of block. I want

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00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 10: to evaluate blocking, covering, you know, leverage, all those things,

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00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 10: and I feel like if you're playing the game the

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00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 10: right way, you can evaluate those things. I'm not trying

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00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 10: to get gimmicky in a preseason game.

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00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: So how do you feel like things are right now

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00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 4: coming out of that week at the Greenbrier? How happy

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00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 4: or or not happy are you with the state of

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00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 4: your unit.

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00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 10: I thought it was a great spot to work. I

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00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 10: think we got a lot done, not only as a

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00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 10: special teams group, but as a team. I feel like

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00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 10: our team became closer in that in that setting because

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00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 10: of how Kevin had it set up. As far as

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00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 10: our team in the kicking game specifically, I feel I

1331
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 10: feel pretty good. I mean, everyone is trying to do

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00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 10: the right thing. Everyone's trying to apply the corrections to

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00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 10: the next rep, to the next practice. We haven't had

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00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 10: a lot of repeat mistakes, which has been good in

1335
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 10: the first you know, handful of practices, and that's going

1336
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Speaker 10: to be the thing trending forward. It's like, how to

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00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 10: talk with our players today. It's like, we need to

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00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 10: we had a good we had a good week and

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00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 10: a half, but it's not good enough. So we need

1340
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 10: to lock in and focus and understand what we need

1341
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 10: to do to win each trip, so that's gonna be

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Speaker 10: the focus moving forward.

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Speaker 4: I love I can't wait to see you out there

1344
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 4: coaching your first game. I'll be a preseason here with

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00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns, a team that you played for a

1346
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 4: few years ago. Coach, always a pleasure. Thanks for the time,

1347
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Speaker 4: appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: today at Barkingbackers dot com. As we go around the league,

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Speaker 2: the Rams with a big blow here, Cooper Cup underwinning

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00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: MRI and his hamstring team says he could potentially be

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Speaker 2: back in a few weeks on that. So we've had Cup,

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Speaker 2: We've had Burrow. I think the Rams are one of

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Speaker 2: the greatest. I don't under I don't know what's going

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00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: on operations.

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Speaker 4: In terms of what they're trying to comp don't know

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00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: what they're trying to do. Teams wanted to trade for Stafford?

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00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: Why they didn't want to trade for him? It sounds like, look,

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00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 4: Cooper cup is still going to be fine. Maybe it

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00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 4: depresses this fantasy value a little bit. And I think

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00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: that you're happy about that. I think most people feel

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00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 4: like he'll be back for Week one and if not

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Speaker 4: soon thereafter. The Rams are obviously going to be very

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Speaker 4: I think middling. They're not going to be a great

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00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 4: football team. But I think there's no rush on Like,

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00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 4: they're not going to rush him back. I think they

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00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 4: will be judicious with that point.

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Speaker 3: Think about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they are clearly third in that division, right, Yeah,

1378
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: but they're definitely ahead of fourth in that division. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because cars go at the bottom.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I Mean my guess is McVeigh feels like this year

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Speaker 4: in the NFC, if we can just hang around and

1383
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 4: be nine and eight, maybe we make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: He's saying, healthy Stafford, right, healthy Stafford, And why can't I.

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Speaker 3: Go ten and seven? Nine and eight? That seems like

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01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: a tall order to me.

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Speaker 2: But then you start going around the NFC the as

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know their schedule, the RAMS schedule

1389
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: top to bottom, just the conference in the NFC South,

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Speaker 2: there's only oh.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, yeah, what's he going to be pee cocking around on?

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01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jesus, what's It's unbelievable.

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01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 4: It's Wednesday's I mean, that's fine Italian leather, of course.

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01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 4: And how does he keep those bottoms so white?

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01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: I'm curious about that. I always worry about that when

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: I because I have a couple pair of like those,

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01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: that type of shoe, not necessarily those, But then and

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Speaker 2: and I don't.

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Speaker 4: Look at the nation, look at the nation. Just finish

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01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 4: his schoolwork, take a bow. Congratulations, got it? So proud

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01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 4: of Bacco? So probably I love, I love?

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Speaker 3: But what did he do that? We're probably more other

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Speaker 3: than just.

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Speaker 4: And finished that all up? Yeah, yeah, just finished it

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01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: all up on the great things as the great Bacco

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Speaker 4: Uh winning?

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Speaker 2: Is it some sort Is there a white that he

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01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: would be using going back to swag to keep those

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Speaker 2: things so perly white? Or does he never walk on dust?

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Speaker 4: It feels like he never walks on dust. And my

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01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 4: guesses he gets home with that and immediately it's an

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Speaker 4: immediate cleaning. I think He's like immediately wipe and working

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01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 4: and wiping and making sure that he's keeping everything like

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Speaker 4: completely one or pure?

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Speaker 5: Is he is?

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Speaker 2: He like Jordan and he just wears him once, no one,

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01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: no one wear in then out no no, oh.

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Speaker 5: Good grief.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I in the NFC, who knows what the

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01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: rams are trying to be? Alvin Kamar expected to meet

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Speaker 2: with the Commissioner Roger Goodell today and in New York

1422
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Speaker 2: regarding his potential suspension. Reached a plea dale in July,

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01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: no longer facing felony charges for rolling the fight and

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Speaker 2: the eve of the Pro Bowl in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: That Saints operation is the one in the NFC South

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Speaker 2: that feels like it could go a little bit. And

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Speaker 2: I mean they'll be valiedictorian to summer school, but that

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Speaker 2: still gets you into the postseason.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the Falcons have a chance, even

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Speaker 4: though I think that their first round pick was not serious.

1431
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 4: And then I do have concerns about Desmond Ritter. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like right now it's going to be

1433
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 4: the box if the reports out of their camp are

1434
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 4: to be believed. Right now, it doesn't feel like that's

1435
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 4: a team that I feel like could completely fire sale.

1436
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 4: Mike Evans could be playing somewhere at the deadline and

1437
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 4: saw what Aaron Rodgers said about why he freed up

1438
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 4: that money so that they can.

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Speaker 3: No, I did not I knowss that. So what he

1440
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: said the.

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Speaker 4: Reason that he took that pay cut was he's here

1442
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 4: to win a super Bowl and basically he feels like

1443
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 4: at the trade deadline that's when a lot of big

1444
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 4: names move in the NFL now, and he wants the

1445
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 4: Jets out of the financial resources to get a big name

1446
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 4: if that would help push them over the top. And

1447
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 4: so you think about could that mean DeVante Adams who

1448
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 4: wants to get back with him? Could that mean a

1449
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 4: Mike Evans where you add him into Garrett Wilson and

1450
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you're saying, Okay, this is a

1451
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 4: lot of fun, this is very interesting. So I think

1452
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 4: that that's that's why he did did that. But going

1453
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Speaker 4: back to the NFC South, it doesn't feel like Carolina

1454
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 4: is going to be serious. Although we never know what

1455
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 4: Bryce Young is. By the way, I feel like I've

1456
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 4: heard never heard less. I've heard more about Anthony Richardson

1457
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 4: than c J. Stroud and Bryce Young combined.

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Speaker 2: Some of that could be markets. India is a market

1459
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: that's covered a little bit more strenuously than certainly than

1460
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: Carolina and Houston. Houston's a monster city and I know

1461
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: that there. Obviously they talk Texans, but it's been so

1462
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: hopeless of lately. I wonder if they talk more like

1463
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: Texas A and M football or Astros and all that.

1464
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly that, but now I everything that

1465
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: I've I've seen on When I do see something on

1466
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, he looks great, like the stuff that I've

1467
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: seen in camp and Stroud. I think he didn't throw

1468
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: a pick until Sunday. He went like several days without

1469
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: throwing a pick down there. Both of them are good

1470
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: to go. It seems like Richardson's gonna be good to go.

1471
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: He got all eighteen starter reps on Tuesday. To me,

1472
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: he feels like somebody just go play.

1473
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they're gonna do. I think they're just

1474
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 4: gonna go out there and they're gonna play him. I mean,

1475
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew's there if they need him. But yeah, I

1476
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 4: think that he's absolutely gonna go and and play. But yeah,

1477
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 4: that NFC South's wide open. The Saints do feel like

1478
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 4: they've got the most talent top to bottom. Yeah, he

1479
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 4: just never feel like you know what's going on with

1480
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 4: Michael Thomas.

1481
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't know. And then he got big, Like you

1482
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: see how yoked he is.

1483
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 4: He looks like David Boston.

1484
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah you can't, that's you get too big. Man can't

1485
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: do it.

1486
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 4: What about Jimmy Graham? There's another one. Is he really

1487
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 4: gonna go play for the Saints? Is that real?

1488
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 3: Is that the talk?

1489
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? That is the top?

1490
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 3: Jeez? Hey, how many people? I wish Gibbe was here?

1491
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 4: Why is he do a guest?

1492
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 3: I'd love to do. I'd like to do a guest

1493
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: of stats on Mike Evans.

1494
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 4: Okay, what about him?

1495
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: With how many thousand yard seasons he would think Mike

1496
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: Evans has in this career.

1497
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 4: I believe that he has nine and they are nine straight,

1498
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 4: and he's the first person who's ever done that.

1499
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 2: I don't think people would have that really, I don't

1500
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: think so, unless like you, like a fantasy person, I

1501
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: think would have it. But I think if you were

1502
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: just a casual football fan, I don't know that you

1503
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: would know that he is the only receiver in NFL

1504
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: history to have nine straight thousand yard seasons.

1505
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 3: To start a career.

1506
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 4: It's an incredible Ecconomics gold jacket. I think. So this

1507
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 4: was something that we talked about when we played them

1508
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 4: last year. And that's another reason why I know that,

1509
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 4: because we played the Bucks last year.

1510
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: And I mean the yards of reception numbers are unbelievable

1511
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: fifteen and a half, sixteen, seventeen and seventeen point seven,

1512
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: seventeen point three. Yes, yes, it's craziness.

1513
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 3: It's amazing.

1514
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 2: He was best with Jamis from Statistically, he's unbelievable.

1515
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: Break fromdowns that year. They threw it like he.

1516
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 3: Threw it everywhere.

1517
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: His yards per game, his yards went down with Brady,

1518
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: but his touchdowns were unbelievable thirteen and fourteen in back

1519
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: to back years.

1520
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 3: It's interesting though, like it's it's five.

1521
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 4: Pro it's four Pro Bowls, one All Pro.

1522
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: And just one All Pro. So that's probably not half.

1523
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: I guess the other thing we're gonna have to do

1524
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: is we kind of get it to wrap our heads.

1525
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 4: I mean, the sport's different, this is a level, this

1526
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 4: is an unbelievable greatness. Yeah, that is pretty incredible for sure.

1527
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: For sure, and because of his build, you know, it's

1528
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: six ' five, like he could do this for a

1529
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: while well.

1530
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 4: And you thought he would break down and he just

1531
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 4: he never seems to. Yeah, and he's he was very

1532
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 4: good in the postseason. Four touchdowns in his in his

1533
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 4: postseason career, five hundred and fourteen yards fifteen yards to catch,

1534
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 4: four touchdowns in seven games. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

1535
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 4: if you when you they drafted him seventh overall, and

1536
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 4: I'll go back that. I remember watching Johnny Manzel tape

1537
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 4: coming out text A and EM and I'm just like

1538
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 4: I thought, I said, if you're gonna draft him, you

1539
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 4: gotta get Evans too. I mean this Evan guy. Basically,

1540
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 4: it felt like a lot of their offense was run around,

1541
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 4: do something wild and then throw it up and then

1542
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 4: Mike Evans would just go catch it. You go moss

1543
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 4: people and then run around. I mean, he was so impressive.

1544
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,479
Speaker 4: But to do what he's done at that size for

1545
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 4: nine straight seasons likely potentially, and I think this could

1546
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 4: be the first year or where he falls under it.

1547
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be tough to get there this

1548
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 4: year unless he gets traded. It's pretty wild.

1549
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing, like to me if

1550
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: you were, you're gonna be bad every Like we know

1551
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: everybody by now, we know what Baker is. Like you

1552
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 2: drafted Trask, go let him see, go see what he is.

1553
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:47,959
Speaker 4: He's the answer.

1554
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: And if he's not, then so then you go back

1555
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: to Baker. You can play Baker down the road and

1556
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: you can play out the stretch whatever, and you draft

1557
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 2: a quarterback. But like, the most stupefying thing from a

1558
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: branding situation that's been done is not having those reforms

1559
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: ready for Brady. Like the fact that that nobody did

1560
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: that while they had Brady is absolutely ridiculous. One one

1561
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: thing we never got a chance to get to. Let's

1562
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: do it right now. Who was it that made the

1563
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: Begnet's comment.

1564
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 4: Jamal Williams right, So jam.

1565
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: Begnatties, Yeah, so he makes the Begnets claim that they're overrated.

1566
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: Essentially what he's a funnel. It's a funnel, cack, is

1567
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: what he says. And you had texted and you had

1568
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 2: said this would be great on the show, and I

1569
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: agree that it would. I think it's my take on

1570
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: it is. I think it is both underrated, I'm sorry,

1571
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 2: overrated and properly rated. What I mean by that is,

1572
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: would I want to have it?

1573
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 4: Look at that guy.

1574
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 3: Right there, I feel a legend. Yeah what I want.

1575
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: I'm not going to eat at Beignet every day now.

1576
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 2: They're not that great on their own. But it's also

1577
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: it costs you, like four bucks, okay, at Cafe Dumont

1578
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 2: it's nothing. And in that moment with a with with

1579
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: a coffee and the powdered sugar and all of.

1580
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 3: It, it's pretty good. You wouldn't you wouldn't want to

1581
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 3: have it. Look at the boss man there, he is

1582
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 3: how he feels.

1583
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 4: I don't agree though that it's like a funnel cake.

1584
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: It's not like a funnel cake little and is heavy.

1585
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,879
Speaker 4: Benet to me is like a giant if a pocket

1586
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 4: square became a donut. Yeah, that's what a Benet is.

1587
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that. I think that's

1588
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 3: pretty good. It's not as it's tighter, Yes, more dense,

1589
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 3: more dense than that.

1590
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 4: I prefer like a I would prefer a smattering of

1591
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,919
Speaker 4: you know, you get like it at Red the Steakhouse,

1592
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 4: for example, you can get those donut holes and then

1593
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 4: you dip them in your rasbes like I prefer that

1594
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 4: to a Bennet but so wuld I I enjoyed having

1595
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 4: a bene at Cafe DeMont in New Orleans.

1596
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 3: That's right.

1597
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: It's the one place where it's like it's the only

1598
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: place you ever see him. It's the only place that

1599
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: ought to really ever do them. They're good in that moment.

1600
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 3: And and that's it. It's properly rated.

1601
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: And also, no, it's not like the greatest donut you've

1602
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: ever had in your life. I can think of a

1603
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 2: thousand donuts I'd rather have over it.

1604
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 4: And it's not a place that if you go down

1605
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 4: in New Orleans and you go there on day one

1606
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 4: of your trip, you're not necessarily going back to three.

1607
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 3: Four going back, You're going once.

1608
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 4: And I think that's what he was saying, like these

1609
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 4: Benyatties are they're fine, but like you guys are making

1610
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 4: it out to be like it's changed the pastry game.

1611
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 3: It's not, and it's not. So I think he's right.

1612
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 4: I do think he's right. He's right, and he's wrong,

1613
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 4: and then he's like, well that's not going to play well. Well, well,

1614
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 4: if you like the Begnatties, I mean, And Jamal Williams

1615
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 4: is so great. He gave the best interview of all

1616
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 4: time at an unbelievable season, Like, how many people if

1617
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 4: we played guests the stats with giving how many touchdowns

1618
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 4: does he think Jamal Williams rushed for last year?

1619
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 3: It's like sixteen, isn't it.

1620
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 2: I thought seventeen, But it's it's way he led the league,

1621
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: led the league in touchdowns and he only had like

1622
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 2: a thousand yards though, right or just under right at

1623
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: a thousand. Yeah, he wasn't like a fifteen hundred yard back,

1624
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: but he was basically got all the red zone stuff.

1625
01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 4: What I like about it is that they had Jamal

1626
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 4: Williams and they're like, we're not gay in seventeen rushing

1627
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 4: touchdows thousand and sixty six yards, seventeen touchdowns, We're not

1628
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 4: gonna pay average four yards a carry. I mean, yeah,

1629
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 4: it's incredible, but they're like, we're not gonna pay him,

1630
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 4: but we're gonna do And we're not gonna pay a

1631
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 4: guy DeAndre Sift that we still have on a rookie deal, who,

1632
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 4: by the way, whenever he touched the ball was electric

1633
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 4: for and he in Philly, Philly for nothing for the dollar.

1634
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 4: Same with Richard Penny. What we're gonna do is hand

1635
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 4: out decent money to David Montgomery to come in and

1636
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 4: be Jamal Williams, I guess, and then we're gonna use

1637
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 4: a first round pick on Jamar Gibbs to be DeAndre

1638
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 4: Swift and they obviously hope think that he's better.

1639
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 3: Than any he's better.

1640
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's what that's the operation. Florio reporting this.

1641
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: The NFL is considering adopting the XFL's kickoff style. What

1642
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: is that as a possible replacement for the kickoff format?

1643
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: According to Mike Florio, I think this is when you

1644
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: put the two line of scrimmage right ten yards apart

1645
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: or five yards apart, like instead of having that big collision,

1646
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 2: like you just put like all guys ten guys and

1647
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: then the kicker goes way back and kicks it to

1648
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 2: the returner and so you don't have those huge collisions.

1649
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is it.

1650
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 4: It feels like it lends itself, like if they get

1651
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 4: through one crease, they're gone because they aren't coming down

1652
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:20,799
Speaker 4: like in good kind of waves.

1653
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 3: I like that though.

1654
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: I mean the kick as you know, having been in

1655
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 2: that building, when you get a kick return or punt

1656
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: return touchdown, it's about as loud as it gets.

1657
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 4: Well, Yeah. We did have a punt return touchdown last

1658
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 4: year Donovan People's Jones, which was our first since Travis

1659
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 4: Benjamin and fourteen. We have not had a kick return

1660
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 4: touchdown since the great Jash Cribs had two of them

1661
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 4: in a single game against the Kansas City Chiefs in

1662
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 4: the year two thousand and nine. So hopefully I'll.

1663
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 3: Be a good one a minute, all right, coming up next,

1664
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 3: we'll do a little better or worse.

1665
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:49,880
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1666
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1668
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1669
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1670
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1675
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Speaker 2: Baby Carey College was Sympathic Medicine. Sweepstakes ends August thirtieth.

1676
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 2: Time for a little game we like to call higher

1677
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:44,919
Speaker 2: or lower, better or worse worse? Top twenty five players

1678
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 2: under twenty five via Pro Football Focus and Trevor Sikima

1679
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 2: on that and Stevie is ready. All right, buddy, So

1680
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: this is the debut, the debut on here on the program.

1681
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,879
Speaker 3: I'm excited for you. I think you're ready.

1682
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 4: About step up, step on.

1683
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 3: That'sked about his dead eating.

1684
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 4: He's been eating swallowed hole.

1685
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 3: Have you seen life aquatic?

1686
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 10: No?

1687
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 12: I have not put it on your lawyer list. All right,

1688
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 12: you got it, all right, buddy.

1689
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 4: I believe him when he says that too.

1690
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 3: I believe he'll do it.

1691
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, Jarrod gave me some music the other day that

1692
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 13: I put on my list. I listened to all you

1693
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 13: guys on this I gotta learn.

1694
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 3: All right. That's fine. What a great I like. Yeah,

1695
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 3: there's a lot to like about him. There's gonna come

1696
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 3: a time. There's gonna we said yesterday, Esteban Stock, get

1697
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 3: it on the UNO. I p o do it, rocket ship.

1698
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 3: All right, So here we go Top twenty five players

1699
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 3: under twenty five. Go ahead, buddy, all right.

1700
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 12: So number one on the list is Michaeh. Parsons.

1701
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 4: All right, fine with that?

1702
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 2: So then you would say higher or lower for Micah Parsons,

1703
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: and then you would give it to one of us.

1704
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 13: Okay, higher or lower for Micah Parsons, let's start with

1705
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 13: you Bo.

1706
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 3: He's really good.

1707
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: It's hard to argue with their list because it's all

1708
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: their data driven, so you're arguing against their data. I

1709
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: think the best player under twenty five in the NFL

1710
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: is the guy right below him. However, I would take

1711
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson over Micah Parsons, even though they're both ridiculous.

1712
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: So give me Justin Jefferson over Parsons. Parsons slightly worserer.

1713
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 12: All right, ze number three on their list.

1714
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: Oh, he can weigh in on that one.

1715
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 5: That's a right.

1716
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 3: We're all figuring out at the same time. I agree

1717
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 3: with hims Pranson around.

1718
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 4: I will say that I think there are four players,

1719
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 4: actually five players on this list. Wow, that might be

1720
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 4: in their own tier.

1721
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 5: Oh.

1722
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 3: I love when we do this, and that's what I think.

1723
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 4: I love tier.

1724
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're right as soon as you get as

1725
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: soon as I knew where you were headed. Then it's like, honestly,

1726
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: we take these five and they're a different level.

1727
01:15:54,920 --> 01:16:00,799
Speaker 4: I think the different level tier is Justin Jefferson one,

1728
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons two, Sauce Gardner three, Jamar Chase four, and

1729
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 4: Patrick certain the second five. He was certained was elite

1730
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 4: last year, and those are the most premium of positions.

1731
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 4: I think Tristan Wurf's is good, but I think right

1732
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 4: now you're talking about Justin Jefferson is the best receiver

1733
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 4: in football. Micah Parsons is one of the top four

1734
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:38,799
Speaker 4: edges in football. Is that fair, Miles Mike Parson.

1735
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 3: I'd have him fourth of that on that list, though,

1736
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't you.

1737
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 4: I think so. Yeah, Sauce Gardner might be the best

1738
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 4: corner in the NFL.

1739
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: People talk like he's the best corner in the football.

1740
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: That's what you hear is and he was a rookie.

1741
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1742
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 3: So they in that draft they got Gardner and Wilson.

1743
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 4: Incredible job by them, and they got another first round.

1744
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 3: Of the guy Bryce Hall was in that draft for

1745
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 3: that Hell was in the was.

1746
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 4: A I think second round. They got the j John's

1747
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 4: from Florida State defensive end. Yeah, I say defensive in

1748
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 4: Florida State. He has not been obviously on that level.

1749
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase is certainly a top five receiver in the league. Yeah,

1750
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 4: and then Certain last year was or Patrick Sartan was unneivable.

1751
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 4: Certain Patrick certain was unbelievable. So I think those five

1752
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 4: are in their own category to me. And then you

1753
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 4: get kind of Tristan Wurf's Creed Humphrey. What I don't

1754
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 4: understand is that it felt like Andrew Thomas was regarded

1755
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 4: as being the best in the league at tackle last

1756
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 4: year and he's down at ten and Worfs is at three,

1757
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 4: but that they're in that he's in the next group

1758
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 4: along with like cde Lamb and Jalen Waddle. I think

1759
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 4: Wattle's really good, but I think there are a lot

1760
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 4: of good players. Obviously it's a loaded list. Yes, to

1761
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 4: be fair, Yes, Garrett Wilson at nineteen feels like he

1762
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 4: won't be there next year.

1763
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 3: Same with the guy right above him, Trevor. They're both

1764
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 3: too low.

1765
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 13: Like next all right, Well talked over a couple of

1766
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 13: these already, but we'll go to fourteen with T Higgins

1767
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 13: higher or lower.

1768
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 4: For t big T Higgins guy showed that he could

1769
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 4: be a receiver, the number one guy when when Chase

1770
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 4: was out. But like right now, if you're saying, okay, Nathan,

1771
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 4: you get to start a franchise, and you can have T. Higgins.

1772
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go with people ranked below him. You

1773
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 4: can have T. Higgins, you can have DeVante Smith, you

1774
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 4: can have Garrett Wilson. I'm gonna take Garrett Wilson.

1775
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: Do that going ahead of that though, Like are we

1776
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: sure that? Like, would you take for sure Ceedee Lamb

1777
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: over him.

1778
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 4: Over T Higgins?

1779
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1780
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a big Cede Lamb guy.

1781
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 3: Would you for sure take Jaylen Wattle ahead of him?

1782
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 4: I think yes. I think they're different stylistically, like totally.

1783
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 4: I'd like to have them both, so I have the

1784
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 4: big and yeah, the compliment, but I yeah, Wattles Wattle

1785
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 4: is nasty.

1786
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: No, I know this is a ridiculous list.

1787
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, the hit Higgins is Higgins is.

1788
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 2: A hard one just because he plays with Chase.

1789
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 3: So how do you it's.

1790
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 2: Hard to without separate very good, but like you know,

1791
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 2: he's he's played with Chase when they've had Burrow, so

1792
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: other than Burrough's work at year, So it's hard to

1793
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: it's hard to say exactly how that that whole thing

1794
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 2: shakes out. The thing that is staggering to me is

1795
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 2: the overall amount of receiver talent that is in this

1796
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 2: league right now, at the highest level.

1797
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 3: There are game wreckers everywhere.

1798
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 4: You know, what I think is amazing is yes, there

1799
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 4: are a ton of there's a ton of receiver talent.

1800
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 4: In fact, that's the position that dominates this list. You

1801
01:19:52,200 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 4: look on the defensive line, you have Micah Parsons and

1802
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 4: I'm not sure there's anybody else. He's definitely the only edge.

1803
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 4: He's the only defensive lineman that's listed. There's some good

1804
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 4: young corners. I guess that means, well, it's Quinn and

1805
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 4: Williams over twenty five now and it's fifth year out Alabama. Yeah,

1806
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 4: you would have to be.

1807
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 3: You would have to be.

1808
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: But also like that, you know, like Chase Young didn't hit.

1809
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: He's been hurt and he didn't hit. He was the

1810
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: second pick in the draft, you know, so there's been

1811
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: guys that were dragged like Hi, they need Will Anderson

1812
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 2: to go.

1813
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 4: Do you think about n Houston, You think about Nick Bosa,

1814
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 4: you think about Miles you think about t J. Watt,

1815
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald, the best pass rushers in the league.

1816
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 3: Joey Bosa. What is in that mix when healthy went healthy?

1817
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1818
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 4: Sure, But like that's an eight more of an aging group,

1819
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 4: you know, Von Miller aging, Khalil Max certainly at this

1820
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 4: point aging. Robert Quinn quite old.

1821
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 3: Parsons is on an island a little.

1822
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 4: Bit like Hassan Reddick. All those guys. That means all

1823
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 4: those guys in Philly are that age like as Son Reddick. Yeah, yeah,

1824
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 4: late mid twenties. So on one hand, you say, okay,

1825
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 4: does that mean that there is there a paucity of

1826
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 4: young edges or is it becoming a situations the league

1827
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 4: where you need a little bit of seasoning to be dominant?

1828
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 4: Now Nick Bosa, Miles t J.

1829
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 3: Watt did not know the.

1830
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 4: Partons was great right away?

1831
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 13: Where do Kevon Thibodeaux and Aiden Hutchinson fit into that mix?

1832
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 12: Being how young they are? Are they close?

1833
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 4: Hutchinson has a chance. He had what nine sacks?

1834
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 3: He was really good?

1835
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was good.

1836
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 2: Stack it right, Yeah, he probably just needs to stack

1837
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 2: it a little bit. You know, if he could stack

1838
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: a year and and get to fifteen and prove he's

1839
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: like a dominant edge, Yeah, that's probably where he's at.

1840
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 4: But I only had four sacks. He's got a long

1841
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 4: way to go.

1842
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Anderson is the guy everyone was kind of

1843
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 2: waiting for.

1844
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 4: Yep, like he was the next he's.

1845
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 12: The next guy.

1846
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he was identified young at Bama and

1847
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 2: you know that Houston got him, so we'll see if

1848
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: he can be the next kind of guy. But he

1849
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: was in college football circles, he was the one everyone

1850
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 2: pointed to and.

1851
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 3: Said, when he goes, he goes.

1852
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1853
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 2: There's a kid at LSU now as a sophomore named

1854
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: Harold Perkins that has that to him where it's like,

1855
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 2: when he gets there, that's the first pick in the

1856
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: draft if it's not a quarterback. Yeah, but he's only

1857
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 2: a sophomore.

1858
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 13: Next, all right, last one, we talked about the receiver talent,

1859
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 13: it's Drake London at number twenty higher or lower.

1860
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,839
Speaker 3: For Drake, it's tough with him.

1861
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,839
Speaker 4: It's going to be tough to evaluate him. Poor quarterback

1862
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 4: play last year is gonna have poor quarterback play this

1863
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 4: year most likely. And I just he's a name that

1864
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 4: I feel like from a talent standpoint, the size, the

1865
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 4: things that he did, people are very high on him.

1866
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 4: But it feels like with some of the guys that

1867
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 4: are coming into the league this year that it could

1868
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 4: be very likely that he finds himself not on this

1869
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 4: list next season.

1870
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 2: Well, they have Pits right behind him. So they have

1871
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: London at twenty and they have Pits at twenty one

1872
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: on this list, which goes back to the conference like

1873
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: the idea that they went b Jon Robinson and he

1874
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: looks great in camp and I'm sure he is going

1875
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 2: to be not a player back to not find a

1876
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: way to go quarterback and just be satisfied with Desmond

1877
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: Ritter when you have kind of the rest of it.

1878
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 2: One other thing on them in retrospect, how much of

1879
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 2: a theft of that was Calvin Ridley?

1880
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Well we'll see.

1881
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 3: I mean, he feels like it's going electric. Yeah.

1882
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean he was always owned as like one of

1883
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: the great route runners, like pure route runners.

1884
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 4: He was awesome with Atlanta, right.

1885
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,759
Speaker 2: And he they got him for a bucket of balls

1886
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 2: for nothing zip for he sat for a year, yep.

1887
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 2: And now he's going to play in Jacksonville with Lawrence,

1888
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: with Lawrence and at ten and the rest of those cats.

1889
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 3: And it's like, why didn't Atlanta just sit on that Jones?

1890
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 4: Did they do?

1891
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 3: You think it was like they just felt like they

1892
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 3: were wronged or was it.

1893
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 4: I think maybe they just felt, yeah that you know,

1894
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 4: he we can't tolerated before.

1895
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 3: You know, he's still on his rookie deal mind you.

1896
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna be that's a good.

1897
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 3: Point out of you, Paulus.

1898
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna make a lot of money after this year,

1899
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 4: would be my y.

1900
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's gonna light it up.

1901
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 4: I think he's a very good one.

1902
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 9: Thing.

1903
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 2: Let's have a quick talk. Lawrence was eighteen on this list.

1904
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence was eighteen on this list. You know, the

1905
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 2: first thing here says Lawrence struggled during his rookie season,

1906
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 2: earning a fifty eight point three passing what he was

1907
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:11,759
Speaker 2: probably it's probably the most derelict of duty's NFL coaching

1908
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 2: job in the history of the sport that Lawrence had

1909
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: to endure what Ervin Meyer did.

1910
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sean Payton will see him way in on that.

1911
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to hear the answer to that. I'd

1912
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 2: like for Sean Payton to I'd like his comments on

1913
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 2: the fact that Urban didn't understand why they weren't trying

1914
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 2: to win preseason games. I would like Sean Payton's comments

1915
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: of why how Urban went into a meeting room. Who's

1916
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: this ninety nine from the Rams? We should try to

1917
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 2: get him like I'd like, I told.

1918
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 4: You, hey, it's all football. What's what's up of that?

1919
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 2: How about the presser when he said, yeah, we're our

1920
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: goal is to be two fifty two fifty two fifty run,

1921
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 2: two fifty pass yardage?

1922
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 4: Okay, no Iowa State dude, Like, what are you talking about?

1923
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 3: Two and fifty teen rushing yards?

1924
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 2: I told you though, I don't think he had ever

1925
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: seen an NFL game like top like start to finish.

1926
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 3: Like I don't think get any idea. He was so

1927
01:24:59,360 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 3: bunkered in.

1928
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 4: But how did he get hired?

1929
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 3: Because when you're.

1930
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 2: In a room with him, he's impressive, and he talks

1931
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 2: leadership and he's straightforward. You ask him a question, you

1932
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: get a direct answer, like he's a leader of men,

1933
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 2: he's all those things. He won of those national titles,

1934
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: But he did not know the sport.

1935
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 3: Did not know this.

1936
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 4: It feels like a prereck with it.

1937
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 3: But do you just assume that he does.

1938
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: He must know the sport, like he's been so successful everywhere.

1939
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 2: How does he not know what the NFL is and

1940
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 2: how it works and salary caps?

1941
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 4: The NFL is it theoretically a level playing field, whereas

1942
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 4: in college you can make sure sure that your team

1943
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 4: is way better than everybody, yes, other than maybe two

1944
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 4: or three teams.

1945
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 2: And you can do so by your own value. You

1946
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Speaker 2: you are the recruiter, are the recruiting, you're the program,

1947
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Speaker 2: So you're in control of your roster entirely. I think

1948
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Speaker 2: Lawrence is going to have a great year, great year.

1949
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Speaker 2: I think there's a chance I would have them winning

1950
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Speaker 2: the South's I think they're going to do that. They

1951
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Speaker 2: beat the Chargers last year in a playoff game. There's

1952
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Speaker 2: no reason for me to believe that they're not. Not

1953
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Speaker 2: that we need another good AFC team, but they're gonna

1954
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Speaker 2: be good.

1955
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Speaker 3: Could agree more?

1956
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I could agree more. I think they're Yeah, they're

1957
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Speaker 4: one of the teams that I think probably feels like

1958
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Speaker 4: they can go deep into the postseason.

1959
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, Stevie, how do you think you did?

1960
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Speaker 3: I feel like, okay, I need it too.

1961
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Speaker 12: Thank you.

1962
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Speaker 3: We have a heart. It's a it's a strong hard curve. Yeah,

1963
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Speaker 3: I think that you.

1964
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stands the same standards at standards standard. Well,

1965
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go a B minus debut. Okay, So that's

1966
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Speaker 2: that's solid.

1967
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Speaker 3: It's pretty good.

1968
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Speaker 2: Lots that we can move up, lots of room, but

1969
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Speaker 2: also right out of the gates prepared. What I like

1970
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Speaker 2: most about Esteban's debut willingness, eagerness.

1971
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Speaker 3: I like that commitment, give me a shot, give me

1972
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Speaker 3: a shot, coach. Yeah, I like that. Good job to you, buddy, Thank.

1973
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Speaker 5: You, guys.

1974
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Speaker 4: I think better than a lot of Gibbe's performances, to

1975
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Speaker 4: be honest.

1976
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Speaker 3: So much more to come. Cleveland Browns Daily eight fifty

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Speaker 3: esp in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett coming

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1980
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Speaker 2: All right, so for tomorrow, we will air the Jim

1981
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Speaker 2: Brown Celebration of Life. So that will happen right around

1982
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Speaker 2: one o'clock, so you will have that. We will air that,

1983
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Speaker 2: and it's through the duration of it, the completion of

1984
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Speaker 2: it that's about an hour and a half is kind

1985
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Speaker 2: of the way that that will go. So we will

1986
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Speaker 2: be here to guide you through that. We're not sure

1987
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Speaker 2: exactly the logistics of all. We don't know what happening on,

1988
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Speaker 2: but that we will have it. It will be good,

1989
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Speaker 2: I'm certain, and we will have that and then we

1990
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Speaker 2: will have the game tomorrow down Kent with you and

1991
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Speaker 2: Jim and Gerrod on the call on that.

1992
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait. It's unbelievable that it's here. We're

1993
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Speaker 4: the first ones to get to experience at us in

1994
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Speaker 4: the Jets and so very much looking forward to it,

1995
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Speaker 4: and obviously on ful to hear from Jim Donovan earlier

1996
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Speaker 4: today and wonderful to see him and then tomorrow to

1997
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Speaker 4: get to back be back in the booth with them.

1998
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Speaker 4: I can't wait.

1999
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Speaker 3: Here we go. Is this your first Hall of Fame game.

2000
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Speaker 4: As an attendance? Yeah, yeah, me too.

2001
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Speaker 2: I mean it's something that I'm sure like for you

2002
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Speaker 2: as a kid, like you were so hungry for football

2003
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Speaker 2: around this time as a kid that we always watched it. Yes,

2004
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Speaker 2: and it's going to be surreal to be down there as.

2005
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Speaker 4: A part of it.

2006
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Speaker 3: Yeah that guy.

2007
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Speaker 4: Yes, down there, there's gonna be a lot of that.

2008
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Speaker 4: There's gonna be a lot of that, we know that guy.

2009
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a fun, fun the start of

2010
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Speaker 2: what should be a magical weekend for the organization, most

2011
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Speaker 2: especially for Joe and the rest of it in his

2012
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Speaker 2: wonderful family. But this is it's going to be a

2013
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Speaker 2: fun time down there. I imagine that what you're going

2014
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Speaker 2: to have is the Browns invade Stark County and Canton,

2015
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Speaker 2: and it's going to be a lot of it. So

2016
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Speaker 2: it should be a lot of fun, certainly. So we

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Speaker 2: look forward to that. So remember tomorrow around one o'clock,

2018
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Speaker 2: Jim Brown Celebration of Life.

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Speaker 3: We'll be here to help guide through some of that

2020
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Speaker 3: and then the game tomorrow is gonna be a lot

2021
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Speaker 3: of fun and.

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Speaker 2: What should be a great weekend. Good job to you, Buddy,

2023
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Speaker 2: Good job to you, Stevie. Excellent work.

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