WEBVTT - 2/4/26: Melinda Gates Blasts Bill Over Epstein, ICE Victims Testify, US Shoots Iranian Drone 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.599 Hey, guys, Saga and Crystal here. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.240 Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.840 and we are so excited about what that means for 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:08.720 the future of this show. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:10.760 This is the only place where you can find honest 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.280 perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:14.680 not exist anywhere else. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.080 So if that is something that's important to you, please 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.599 go to Breakingpoints dot com. 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I think more people are curious 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:43.000 how you were last week. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.280 Was good time, Good time was had. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.160 Apparently some Epstein's news dropped while I was gone here. 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.920 Ryan was in Cancun at Fish shows as the Epstein 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:54.920 files were being released. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:56.720 I felt bad texting you, Oh, I. 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:57.040 Was loving it. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.000 I was loving it. It added to it, it did, Yeah, 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.040 I mean, because this is. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:06.360 It's not a tropical vacation without learn for people who 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.360 are genuinely curious about how the world works and who 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.000 the people are who run this world. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:17.199 This is like, this is the moment that the window 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:17.960 is actually open. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:19.360 It's so unbelievable. 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:23.000 And that's and Mac was just telling us that we've 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.120 had hundreds of new premium subscribers over the last couple 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.160 of days, and I think that's because we've been covering 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:38.320 this honestly from the beginning, and it's such a disorienting 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:43.480 mess of a story because there's so much active disinformation 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.440 that gets pumped out into it. Yes, and you want 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.720 to know what's true, what's not, what matters, what doesn't, 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.600 and like we're trying to actually be honest about it 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.200 not and we don't care who it offends. 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.279 Right, not trying to smooth the edges of the story 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.680 out or anything like that. So you can get a 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.400 pretty subscription at Breakingpoints dot Com. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.440 Appreciate it. If you do, you can go sign up there. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:08.200 Otherwise, just follow us, you know, subscribe on YouTube to 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.240 get us in your feed and wherever you get your podcasts. 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.760 It's very helpful. But this has been to your point 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.640 of watershed. We yeah, I mean it's been like we've 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.480 got the drip drip coming out for a couple of 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.440 years now, but nothing like the geyser of the last 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:23.120 several days. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.000 And while we're on the subject of gratitude for viewers 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.480 who are making this possible, I was thinking, you know, 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.840 Mexico watching fish, it's a good time for contemplation, and 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.360 I was thinking about how last year we didn't go 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.280 to the show because my wife had just gotten out 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.440 of the hospital with complications from chemo, which is damn 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.720 near killed her. And to think that now, like a 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:52.320 year later, we're back on the beach and like celebrating it, 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.120 and like throughout that whole thing, you guys were so 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.200 cool about like missing shows, being late like that was 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.640 that was really that was really moving. So I just 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.520 really appreciate that and also my mother in law to 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.519 like watch the kids the whole time. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.120 Big thank you to Virginia. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:17.200 That's so so And now I'm recharged ready to go 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:18.440 get these Epstein goons. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.720 So in a way, it was great timing perfect. You 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.840 were recharging your battery just as the world needed our 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.280 super soldier Ryan grim Most. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.960 Yeah, well, we have said we have a lot to 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.520 get through today. We're going to start actually with Epstein 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.919 because the drip drip is continuing. But also what's important 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.480 is putting the pieces of the puzzle together, and there 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:37.320 are a few people. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.440 Better Quip to do that than Ryan Grimm. So we're 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:40.840 going to. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:42.400 Start loving reporting on this. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.440 I've been addicted, you've been You've been going through it 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:46.880 like a pro. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:47.720 It's addicting. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.240 I mean, the Epstein library is addicting on the DOJ's website, 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.120 which is a weird thing. You don't not many people 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.920 get addicted to the DOJ's website. 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.880 But you can also now go through jmail. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.800 We have all of the latest volume eleven up on 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.440 Gmail dot world, which is project with drop side. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.960 So I find that even more addicting because it's like 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.120 being in the sims. 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.360 Right and you can and you can then like see 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.080 the ones that came right before it, and you can 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.920 put it in time and yes, the articles it links 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:14.280 to links to the articles. 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.160 It's yeah, it's a technological feat. It's very very cool. Yeah, 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:18.279 so folks should also go there. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.280 If we put we put in for a pulletzer like 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.680 they wanted to do it. I was like, you want 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:26.960 to understand that the pulitzer is housed in Columbia, right, Like, we're. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.200 Not getting a pullet. We deserve one. Yes, you like, 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.919 if it was a fair fight, we would get one. Yeah. 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.599 It's the most innovative journalistic project I think ever on 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.800 a massive data set. Uh, and it's the biggest story 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.200 in the world, so it deserves it. I was like, 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.960 I'm not sure if you followed the news around Columbia 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.200 University lately. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:45.880 It's not happening. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.279 Don't think they're doing it in Epstein Pulleitzer. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:52.080 No, not to drop side, definitely, not to drop side. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.200 It's free to apply. I was like, look done hard 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:55.559 to apply. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.440 Yeah, no, that's true. A lot of new details to 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.159 go through. So we'll start with We're then going to 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.360 have Van Lathan join us once again because Renee Goods 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.839 family testified in Curing yesterday. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:07.560 We have clips from that. 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.240 We're going to talk about it with Van and just 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.719 Democrats on the ending of the guard. So the government 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.719 shutdown technically ended yesterday. The quote unquote partial government shutdown 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:17.719 technically ended yesterday. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.719 You probably didn't notice. Nobody noticed even in DC, nobody noticed. 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.080 Cruise right through customs yep. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:24.279 Oh good point. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:29.480 Yeah, So we will be talking to Van about DEM's 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.040 decision when it came to reopening the government, having he 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:33.720 joined with Republicans that sort of thing. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.760 And the United States shot down in Iranian drone. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.840 Yesterday, So we're going to bring the latest on that 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:43.120 story as well. Elon Musk's X offices are being raided 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.240 in Paris. Musk is now in a war of words 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:52.679 with Spain and this is related to teen social media bans, 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.800 but the raid is also related to some of those 0:05:55.839 --> 0:06:00.720 horrible images that were being created on X not You probably. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:05.360 Remember when when Grock went completely Yeah, yep, groc did 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:05.640 his thing. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.440 We have a wild clip of Chuck Schumer about Israel, 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.440 and Gaza will break down the latest new drop site 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.520 reporting to talk about there, and then the Blowbok the 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.800 blowback guys are here to talk about Cuba. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.159 They were just in Cuba. Yeah. 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:23.159 Uh, Trump just put out an executive order declaring Cuba 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.599 to be like the worst of the worst of the worst. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:28.040 Did that happen while they were there? 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:28.720 They did? 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.960 And uh, he's pressuring Mexico not to sell oil to 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.839 Cuba because somehow it is the business of the United 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.359 States who Mexico sells oil to and who Cuba buys 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:44.039 it from uh. They're trying to completely. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.479 Send Cuba back to the seventeenth century. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.600 So we're going to talk to Brendan and know about 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:50.719 what conditions are. 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.680 Like there and what the what the politics are. Yeah, 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:53.480 now and then and. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.760 Negotiations between the US and Iran, which most people suspect 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.840 the US is just buying so they can get all 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.880 their assets in place and then launch an attack. But 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.799 they have moved to Oman at the request of Iran. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.320 They moved from Turkey to Oman. We might even get 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.080 Kushner involved in them. So we'll talk about them. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.240 Yeah, lots to go through, all right, Let's start then 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:20.880 with Jeffrey Epstein. Melinda Gates was on NPR and asked 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.400 the most uncomfortable question anyone could ever ask an ex 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.560 wife you. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.560 Married one that an ex wife is probably not that 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:29.480 unhappy to answer. 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.040 It's a little bit better than being Bill Gates's current wife, 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.400 as she basically says in the clip. She's asked about 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.640 the detailed Crystal and saga covered where in the files. 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.160 This was in an Epstein draft to himself. Those drafts 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:47.160 are a very bizarre hot to send. Yeah, hot, too 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.080 hot for send, But it was the drafts are a 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.800 very strange window into Jeffrey Epstein's mind. And in a 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:59.360 draft you may remember, he mentioned Bill Gates, a Russian prostitute, 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:04.000 and procuring four Bill Gates the type of medication he 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:09.280 would need to slip into Melinda's diet somewhere or another 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.360 to prevent her from getting an STD. Yeah, so Melinda 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.720 Gates was asked about this, let's roll the club. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.880 I think we're having a reckoning as a society, right, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:27.840 No girl, no girl should ever be put in the 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:32.920 situation that they were put in by Epstein and whatever 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.000 was going on with all of the various people around him. 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:42.679 No girl, I mean, it's just it's beyond heartbreaking, right. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.640 I remember being those ages those girls were. I remember 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:50.960 my daughter's being those ages. Right. So for me, it's 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:56.400 personally hard whenever those details come up, right because brings 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.000 back memories of some very very painful times in my marriage. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.800 But I have moved on from that. I purposely pushed 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:09.640 it away and I moved on. I'm in a really unexpected, 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:14.200 beautiful place in my life. So whatever questions remain there 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.040 of what I don't can't even begin to know all 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.719 of it. Those questions are for those people and form 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.360 even my ex husband. They need to answer to those things, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.600 not me well, and I am so happy to be 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.840 away from all the muck. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.320 The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gates had 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.560 additional affairs, and that he tried to get medication to 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.640 treat a sexually transmitted infection, and that he was going 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.920 to give you the medicine without you knowing. His representative 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.800 has said all of this is false. It is not 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.280 on you to have to respond to the details of 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:54.280 that alleged behavior. But I wonder what your dominant emotion 0:09:54.520 --> 0:10:01.560 is when you read these news articles with these details. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:13.160 Sad just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness. Right, and again I'm 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.400 able to take my own sadness and look at those 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.160 young girls and say, my god, how did they have 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:22.600 How did that happen to those girls? 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:22.959 Right? 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:27.640 And so for me, it's just sadness, sadness. For you know, 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.439 I've left, I had, I left my marriage, I had 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.320 to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:33.320 I had to leave the. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.760 Fact I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.599 So it's just sad and ren that's pretty close. To 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.880 confirmation from me Linda Gates. The divorce itself was related 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.400 to the Epstein allegations with Bill Gates. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:46.400 And they're not allegations. 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.840 I mean, it's the confirmed relationship between Bill Gates and 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.800 Jeffrey Epstein. Obviously there are all kinds of different allegations 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.640 that circulate around that, but it's not an allegation that 0:10:55.679 --> 0:11:00.160 they that they had a significant relationship. I'm not insignificant relationship. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.160 And in that clip, the way, the question was asked 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:08.080 by NPR, what is your dominant emotion when you hear that? 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:12.280 As opposed to did your ex husband secretly drug you too? 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:13.240 Out of love? 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:14.640 Of course she wouldn't know. 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:18.280 I guess she wouldn't. But what is your dominant emotion 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.240 when you hear that clip? 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:25.760 Maybe sad too? I'm in anger? Like what what is comebag? 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:26.120 I know? 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:31.079 Yeah, and you know she has said that she told 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.720 him this. By the way, this guy is a creep, 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.680 so like she didn't see him, you know, doing whatever 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.920 the satanic stuff they're doing, but being around him, she 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.319 was like, he's a creep. You should not be around him. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.320 And if you're keeping around him, like this is not 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.600 going to work. And it's indicative of your character as well. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.120 She was dead on. From other people who have met him, 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.200 I've gotten people have said the same thing that like 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.600 your creep dar like just went up in immediately, and 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.920 that goes sadly to the next guy we got to 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:10.280 talk about. We can put up c three here, one 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:15.120 of the for a certain subset of like gen X, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.839 particular left wing people. This one has been just a 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:20.480 body blow. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:21.800 The Woodstock ninety nine crowd. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.360 Yeah, put up if you put up a three, and 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:28.280 before that, you know everybody everybody older than that too, Yeah, 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.400 put up a three. So this is an email and 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:36.360 people have tried to do some some cope around it, saying, well, 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:41.160 it's not from Noam Chomsky's email, so it's maybe it's 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.480 not him, and basically what he what? 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:44.920 What? 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.000 The one, the one that's circulating comes from one that 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:53.320 Nome did send directly to Jeffrey Epstein, and Epstein took 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.120 out some personal stuff in it and then sent it 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.080 to another friend saying this is this is the advice 0:12:59.080 --> 0:12:59.880 that I got from Nome. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.640 Now the personal. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.720 Stuff I think actually plays into this, and maybe we 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.760 can have glenn On and we can talk about this. 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.000 But let's we can move on from that for now. 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.680 But basically what he tells Epstein says, I'm getting all 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.840 of his terrible press for all of these women accusing 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.640 me of abusing them. 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.000 What should you know? What should I do? And this 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.120 is this is twenty nineteen. 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.680 This is deep into me too, and it's I believe 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:37.560 this is long after the Miami Herald has done the 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.200 investigation into the. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:40.840 Way that. 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.200 What he did in Florida was way worse than he 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.600 ended up getting charged with, because what he did was 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:52.320 extremely clever for his own rehabilitation. There were dozens of, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.760 as we've reported, dozens of victims that they could have 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.319 chosen to charge him with. Yes, some as low as 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:04.160 like fourteen. He got them to make the one charge 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:08.120 somebody who was seventeen, which was very smart on his 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.640 part because what did he immediately start doing. It was 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:16.080 a prostitution situation. She told me she was eighteen. Turns 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:20.440 out she was seventeen and a half, and so many 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.520 people in the elite world were willing to be like, 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.200 you know what, hey, an age of consents at sixteen 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:31.320 in some states and so and also he hangs out 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.160 with the Secretary of State and former presidents and he's 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.520 on the board of this and that, and he's a billionaire. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:43.080 Sure it's fine. But by twenty nineteen, so even if 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.640 you like allow for that that cleverness that he was 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.000 able to pull off with the cost in and the 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:54.440 Bush administration, by twenty nineteen people knew the contours of 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.760 that deal and the context of it. And so what 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:01.400 Noam Chelnsey basically tells him is do not respond it all. Like, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.920 if you respond at all, it's just going to give 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.960 the vultures. He says, you know what the vultures dearly 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.360 want is a public response, which then provides a public 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:13.240 opening for an onslaught of venomous attacks, many from just 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.600 publicity seekers and cranks of all sort. And he goes 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:21.640 on and on and so to see, because you know, 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.840 some of us had our cope was Chompsky responds to 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:30.560 everybody he has, He emails Everybody'll like, he'll speak wherever, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:35.119 He'll take any interview request. He has this voracious curiosity 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:40.760 about humanity. Epstein was funding MIT. Obviously, Chompsky wants to 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.800 do what he can to like get funding from my 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.760 t so you could like you can get there and 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.640 be like, look, but to see the level of emotion 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:53.480 that he had in his relationship with Epstein, knowing that 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:56.880 so many other people who met him or like, this 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:01.000 guy's creep. It's uh sitting. It doesn't mean that he 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:06.840 participated in any of the any of the sordid stuff, 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.960 which and I've been consistent on that, Like people want 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.520 to cancel every single person who's on an email with Epstein, 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:16.440 but I don't think that's fair. 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.200 He emailed thousands of people. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.680 The people that need to be face accountability and shame 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.720 are the ones that participated, knew about and didn't say 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.280 anything or knew about and participated in what he was doing. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.040 We know, at least Chomsky had a. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.240 Very close relationship with him, and we know that he 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.800 was a creep and that it was easy to tell that, 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.720 and we know that he's telling him, he's guiding him 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.280 how to overcome this. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.440 Like wall of allegations. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:51.480 It's rather odd to see deference given to a billionaire 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.760 supporter of the global intelligence state as well. Right, So, 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.200 like it's one thing if Epstein had been a sort 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.880 of left aligned billionaire and I mean and I don't 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.359 mean Democrat, like obviously he was a dem donor and 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:06.159 he was close. 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.199 With the labor wing of Israel. 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.400 Yeah, we can put a two up on the screen. Yeah, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:12.359 labor wave of Israel. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.280 But a two is the news yesterday from the House side, 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:23.680 the Clintons have broken an agreement to be questioned on 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.320 camera to avoid those contempt of Congress charges that it 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.320 looked like they were barreling head on into. 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:31.800 Just a couple of weeks ago, and they sent. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.439 That letter and said, no, this is all We're not 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.000 doing it. They're not going to pull Steve Bannon and 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.600 go to prison for defying the subpoena. They're not going 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.040 to be on camera. But that's a reminder that again 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.879 it's why of all of all the billionaires who have 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.760 gnom Chomsky's deference and trust and support. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.520 Epstein's a non choice, but the worst one. It's a 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.239 non choice, like who else you got? 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:58.280 It's going to be worse than that. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:17:59.200 It's a weird one. 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:04.399 Yeah, and it gives throwing it to rail the entire show. 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:09.520 Chomsky was a an anarchist, and in the time that 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:16.160 I was coming up, actual socialism had been somewhat significantly 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.320 discredited on the left because of the collapse of the 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:24.920 Soviet Union and a lot of like American The American 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:30.240 idea in the late eighties nineties about communism was not 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:34.119 that it was this bulwark against American imperialism and like 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.600 an and a like vehicle for the rise of the 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:42.880 working class. It was like this was a sclerotic, authoritarian thing, 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.800 and that gave purchase to anarchism to really take hold 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.679 in like the nineties and early two thousands as an 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:55.000 alternative that radicals could glom onto. And you always had 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:59.560 the socialists and communists saying that's fake, that's just that's 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:04.680 just gloss over liberalism. And it allows them to say 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.560 I told you so, because the answer to how could 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:11.640 he align himself with somebody like this would be so interesting? Well, 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.679 it's actually it really was just glossed over liberalism. 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:20.560 That's so interesting. A four. Let's put a four up 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:21.159 on the screen. 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.880 This is an Epstein email to Peter Teal where Ryan 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.320 This gets into a lot of the drop site reporting here. Epstein, 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.679 February twenty eight, twenty sixteen. As you probably know, this 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.159 is to Peter Teal, I represent the Ross Childs. I 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:36.600 was hoping to figure out a way for the bank 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.959 that has one hundred and sixty b and management can 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:40.800 do something in tech best client lists in the world, 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:42.080 prehistoric products. 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:43.560 It can wait. Good luck in China. 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.520 This is like a poem, like a sick pome. I'll 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.840 be in Europe again twenty twenty eight, then island. So 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.639 if you want to come around the world going west dot, 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:54.680 come to the island dot. Or if you would like 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:56.280 to meet in Saudi at the end of the month 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.720 question mark and then Teal says, certainly, not in Saudi. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.639 I think I will would the Middle East for the 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.199 next decade or so. 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.360 Should be back on East Coast in late April May 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:07.680 sometime in NYC or on island. 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.600 Then dot dot dot. 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.600 Lovely they have us hanging here in suspense. But Ryan 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:17.720 Dropsite has done a deep investigation into the Epstein Rothschild's connection. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:18.959 Right yeah, so people can go read that. 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.600 That's Arianda Rothschild, who herself is a fascinating character because 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.640 she's not a Rothschild, just from Central America, married into 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.200 the family and then became the first kind of married 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.720 in person to run the bank. And she developed a 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.080 very close relationship with Epstein, which she denied, but which 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:35.520 our original. 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:36.920 Emails showed not true at all. 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.560 This further tightens it and shows that he was using 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:44.520 his linkage with her and the bank to try to 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.760 appeal to Teal. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:48.120 Here that's twenty fifteen. 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.560 One thing I was proud of from this weekend that 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.600