Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Jets, where broadcasting live from Vanderbilt
Speaker 1: Sports and Spirits inside the Windham Hamilton's Park Hotel. The
Speaker 1: schedule is impacting everyone because Eric Coleman is not here,
Speaker 1: but uh, one of my colleagues, Ethan Greenberg, has come
Speaker 1: to Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits, and we'll also be joined
Speaker 1: later by the multe talented Olivia Landis as well. But
Speaker 1: first off, Green's welcome back to Vandy's. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that my biceps are not quite as big as
Speaker 1: Eric Coleman's, but hopefully I feel his shoes just fine. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll get you on the program. And since we are
Speaker 1: live tonight, we're actually gonna be taking folks calls. So
Speaker 1: it's eight nine one nine three, seven seven six, So
Speaker 1: get in. Let's talk some Jets football. Ethan, what do
Speaker 1: you think about the green and white the five games stretch.
Speaker 1: A lot of people were looking at it and saying,
Speaker 1: this is time for the Jets to do some damage,
Speaker 1: and they actually one four out of five, capturing a
Speaker 1: come from behind contests last year yesterday against Miami Dolphins. Well,
Speaker 1: I think one, it doesn't really matter who you play
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Four to five is four to five,
Speaker 1: and I think obviously the one that sticks out is
Speaker 1: the loss because the Bengals were winless. But yesterday the
Speaker 1: Jets did a good job on battling back and winning
Speaker 1: that game. And yes, they were helped out by a
Speaker 1: defensive pass interference call on the last right, which I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll talk about later on. But I really think
Speaker 1: that yesterday's game showed something if you're a Jets fan,
Speaker 1: because Sam Donald was not his best yesterday. The offense
Speaker 1: was stale in the second half after coming out hot,
Speaker 1: getting a sixteen to six lead in the first half,
Speaker 1: and that did not find the end zone in the
Speaker 1: final two quarters. Jets still found a way to win.
Speaker 1: And you put the ball in Sam Donald's hands and
Speaker 1: he made it. He made it happen. Yes, Vincent Smith
Speaker 1: had a thirty seven yard pitch and catch, but that's
Speaker 1: part of the game, and I think he's encouraging sign
Speaker 1: for the job. They beat a quarter blitz and and
Speaker 1: in terms of Sam Donald, that was this twenty third
Speaker 1: start in the National Football League. His third had come
Speaker 1: from behind victory in the fourth quarter. No apologies necessary
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Listen that would have been
Speaker 1: a tough defeat. Like you mentioned, they at a ten
Speaker 1: point lead in the second quarter, but they found a
Speaker 1: way to win. After a very tough loss against the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, I know a lot of people were thinking, well,
Speaker 1: maybe you get to Baltimore and the Thursday Night showdown
Speaker 1: with the Ravens at six and seven. Instead the Jets
Speaker 1: five and eight, missing the postseason for a ninth consecutive year.
Speaker 1: But I would like to reiterate that Joe Douglas took
Speaker 1: over as general manager of this team in June. He
Speaker 1: is never went through an off season here as the
Speaker 1: football architect of this team. So a lot of work
Speaker 1: yet to be done, a lot left to play for.
Speaker 1: And the Jets were three and one in the third
Speaker 1: quarter of the schedule they start the fourth quarter or
Speaker 1: their schedule one and all did I was thinking about
Speaker 1: this just a couple of hours ago. Did yesterday's game
Speaker 1: feel anything like exactly a year ago in Buffalo Jets
Speaker 1: built Really? I looked at the stats, and I'm asking
Speaker 1: you if it felt the same. It felt the same
Speaker 1: for me, because I don't think the Jets played their
Speaker 1: best football last year in Buffalo. They came out with
Speaker 1: a win. Same thing yesterday AFC East opponent. Yes, this
Speaker 1: game was at home. Last year, the Jets won a
Speaker 1: come from behind victory. Eli McGuire punched it in to
Speaker 1: the end zone on fourth and one and the Jets
Speaker 1: last drive nine plays, sixty one yards. They scored touchdown yesterday,
Speaker 1: What was it for? I'm sorry? Last year? Seven play
Speaker 1: forty one yard? The key play is down the sidelines.
Speaker 1: Who who again? Is scorching hot in December? But yesterday
Speaker 1: it felt like the Bills game, and it felt like
Speaker 1: it was another notch on Sam's belt that you if
Speaker 1: you're Jets fan, you're encouraged to see that type of performance,
Speaker 1: at least late in the game. I understand he didn't
Speaker 1: have his best game statistically passing the ball. He threw
Speaker 1: a pick that was you know, I think it was
Speaker 1: an ill advised throw. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: he led the team down to be in a position
Speaker 1: for Sam picking a kick a game winning field goal. Well,
Speaker 1: and we do have to say that Adam Gay said
Speaker 1: he did not put Sam Donald in a good spot
Speaker 1: on that interception. And again, listen, you want players to
Speaker 1: make plays when the game is on the line. Did
Speaker 1: the Jets get good fortune with the past interference call. Well,
Speaker 1: it depends how you look at it, because the bottom
Speaker 1: line was that was a past interference by the book.
Speaker 1: That's why officials overturned the note call. We were talking
Speaker 1: about in the press box and wondering, Okay, where's the
Speaker 1: league gonna go with this one? Obviously it was there.
Speaker 1: Early makes the play on Vincent Smith cornerback Nick need
Speaker 1: him and that's all Sam Donald the company needed. He
Speaker 1: throws the short ball to Tie Montgomery. Sam Ficking ice
Speaker 1: water in his veins, forty four yards drilling and Sam
Speaker 1: Ficken he missed an extra point earlier in the game,
Speaker 1: so to have a a shot at redemption is something
Speaker 1: that he said that he was actually very much looking
Speaker 1: forward to. He said it was the best kick of
Speaker 1: his pro career. I mean, Sam Ficken is somebody that's
Speaker 1: bounced around the NFL from a couple of different teams,
Speaker 1: finds a home with the Jets after the Jets had
Speaker 1: their own kicking struggles in the beginning of the season,
Speaker 1: and Sam Ficken he's no stranger to game winning field
Speaker 1: goals and when you look at his career, Penn State
Speaker 1: struggled as a freshman. I mean Sam Ficken received death
Speaker 1: threats his freshman year in college in Happy Valley, and
Speaker 1: then his senior year kicks a game winner here at
Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium in the Pin Stripe Bowl to give Penn
Speaker 1: State to win. So, uh, Sam Ficken has um experienced
Speaker 1: under pressure. I think a lot of kickers do in
Speaker 1: different degrees throughout their career. But I think that's something
Speaker 1: that will only boost the confidence of Sam Ficken moving
Speaker 1: forward over the last or the next three games. Should
Speaker 1: I say inside the Jets is supported by selective insurance,
Speaker 1: be uniquely insured. Eric On alongside Ethan Greenberg later will
Speaker 1: be joined by Olivia Landis, who actually wrote about the
Speaker 1: very hot Robbie Anderson yesterday. You can read that on
Speaker 1: New York Jets dot com. But Greens, let's get to
Speaker 1: the past interference call, the vice senior vice president of
Speaker 1: officiating said after the game. After we look at it,
Speaker 1: we get a couple of replays which show us that
Speaker 1: it's clear and obvious that the defender grabs the receiver
Speaker 1: by his shoulder and significantly hinders him before the ball arrives.
Speaker 1: Vincent Smith after his thirty five the thirty seven yard
Speaker 1: catching run said about need Hum, he came up on
Speaker 1: me and grabbed my right arm. I knew it was
Speaker 1: passing interference from the beginning. I had another one in
Speaker 1: the beginning of the game they didn't call. I think
Speaker 1: Sam Donald said the same thing though, he said he
Speaker 1: let go of the ball and he thought it was
Speaker 1: passing interference when he saw Needham rip the right shoulder.
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's a question, at least for
Speaker 1: us when we were in the press box. I don't
Speaker 1: think we were questioning is it or is it not
Speaker 1: pass interference? The question was will they or will they
Speaker 1: not overturn it? Because the narrative so far this season,
Speaker 1: it's been hard to get a read on what the
Speaker 1: league has or has not overturned. And I think it
Speaker 1: was the right call. I mean, you clearly see Vincent
Speaker 1: Smith's shoulder get ripped around before the ball made it
Speaker 1: to Smith and tough drive for need Him not only
Speaker 1: for the pass interference call, but a couple of plays
Speaker 1: before on the Smith catch and run. Need Him is
Speaker 1: the guy coming off the corner on the blitz and
Speaker 1: barely misses batting down Sam Donald's pass. Actually need Him
Speaker 1: came off the blitz earlier in the game and knocked down.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be taking calls later on and said the
Speaker 1: Jets seven seven six. But Green's Jets travel to Baltimore Wednesday.
Speaker 1: They line up against perhaps the NFL's most complete team,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore are Ravens Thursday night in what should be
Speaker 1: a raucous atmosphere. But how is the schedule change? Back
Speaker 1: across the street at One Jets Drive, because Adam Gaze
Speaker 1: addressed the media on a conference call today, as did
Speaker 1: a few players. Because the schedules being changed because it's
Speaker 1: a short week, you basically have two days of work
Speaker 1: and the Jets aren't really getting in a typical practice. No,
Speaker 1: they're not putting on shoulder pads or helmets. They're going
Speaker 1: through two days of walkthroughs. And Adam Gaze said that
Speaker 1: every year since Thursday Night Football has been implemented, he's
Speaker 1: done something different to try to basically improve the health
Speaker 1: of his team, whether it's in Miami or here. And
Speaker 1: the Jets have been banged up all season. We know
Speaker 1: this from the get from week one, even the preseason
Speaker 1: when Avery Williamson went down untill now. The Jets are
Speaker 1: second in the NFL or war at least entering Sunday's
Speaker 1: game in the amount of players that they've used on
Speaker 1: a game day, and I think I believe the number
Speaker 1: was sixty eight different players. Well, well, here's the other thing,
Speaker 1: is they line up against the Miami Dolphins without their
Speaker 1: best overall player, star safety Jamal Adams, and also without
Speaker 1: their top yardage leader in terms of um from scrimmage
Speaker 1: in levy On Bell. So both of those guys didn't
Speaker 1: line up against the Dolphins, you were still able to
Speaker 1: get out of there. And Gaze said, in terms of
Speaker 1: those two guys, Levan Bell had the flu he's close
Speaker 1: to and Adam Gates wouldn't say if he will in
Speaker 1: fact play Thursday, but he said things are lining towards
Speaker 1: that direction now and he was supposed to be back
Speaker 1: in the building. He's not contagious anymore. I think he'll
Speaker 1: be there for the walkthrough tonight. Now the walkthrough is
Speaker 1: tonight because Adam Gates wants the players to get used
Speaker 1: to practicing at night because it's Thursday night football. And
Speaker 1: in terms of Jamal Adams and will he or will
Speaker 1: he not play on Thursday, I think it's obvious that
Speaker 1: Jamal wants to play. You kind of got a sense
Speaker 1: when Adam Gates was talking to reporters. Interesting comma, but
Speaker 1: we know what Jamal wants. But Adam said that it's
Speaker 1: not really up to Jamal because Jamal will will sacrifice
Speaker 1: himself to go out there and play against Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: and the Baltimore Ravens. I mean, this is this is
Speaker 1: a game. If you're a competitor, you want to be
Speaker 1: out there, and this will be in the hands of
Speaker 1: the trainers, the doctors, Adam Gates and Joe Douglas, and
Speaker 1: Adam Gates basically said, if it's not right for Jamal,
Speaker 1: we have to do what's best for him. Even even
Speaker 1: if Jamal really wants to go out there, he's gonna
Speaker 1: want to hold him back and make sure he's a
Speaker 1: thousand percent because Jamal only knows one speed. YEP. So
Speaker 1: many things to get to in terms of injuries. Because
Speaker 1: Ryan Griffin went out against the Dolphins, so the Jets
Speaker 1: were lining up in their eleven personnel with Daniel Brown
Speaker 1: was the guy predominantly against Miami. We saw the rookie
Speaker 1: tray Von west Goal getting in there when they went
Speaker 1: to multiple tight on set, and you can't say enough
Speaker 1: about Greg Williams and we're gonna talk about him later
Speaker 1: and what that mash unit did against the Dolphins bend
Speaker 1: but didn't break. But they have a totally different challenge
Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson and company. And speaking of Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: apparently he's day to day with the quad. We'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was limited in practice, but again the Ravens didn't
Speaker 1: practice either. As a walkthrough, Mark Andrews did not practice
Speaker 1: or would not have practiced, and staying with same with
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley. So if Andrews and Stanley alone can't play,
Speaker 1: I mean, that would be big news for the Jets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. But uh eight nine one, nine three, seven,
Speaker 1: seven six, we're gonna come right back with Olivia Atlantis.
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Speaker 1: York forty four yards away for Ficking to try and
Speaker 1: win it kind of behold about, it's pretty spot kick
Speaker 1: on my way. It as God Ben side the right
Speaker 1: up right for Sam Ficken and on the last player
Speaker 1: of the game, the Jets pull it out. They've winted
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Speaker 1: right applause. Thank you guys, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Oh, you're gonna do good. So
Speaker 1: where were you when Sam Ficken hit the forty four
Speaker 1: yard field goal? Because you actually are all over the
Speaker 1: place on game day and I wanted to know where
Speaker 1: you took it in because I don't even know that answer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I was actually close to the thirty yard line. Um.
Speaker 1: Me and our executive producer Chris Gardana, we were sitting
Speaker 1: there on the sideline watched it. I remember literally turning
Speaker 1: to one of our coworkers and think, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I can't I can't watch, but I did so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was close to the thirty yard line. And watched
Speaker 1: that so pretty sweet. So what changes for you in
Speaker 1: terms of, Okay, ficking makes it take me three responsibilities
Speaker 1: at that moment, what do you gotta do? Well? After
Speaker 1: he makes it and we know that it's a win,
Speaker 1: we always do and as you guys know, we always
Speaker 1: do a postgame interview live on the JumboTron with a
Speaker 1: player as soon as the Jets win. So immediately me
Speaker 1: and Chris Gargana were already like, Okay, what do we want?
Speaker 1: Who are we gonna get? We knew we're gonna get
Speaker 1: Marcus May at that point because you know he's standing
Speaker 1: tall in a depleted secondary. So right then in there,
Speaker 1: we're getting ready and prepared to have like a thirty
Speaker 1: second turnaround because we're rushing onto the field and then
Speaker 1: snagging Marcus May as soon as we can. That was
Speaker 1: probably the easiest get for you in terms of getting
Speaker 1: the market because sometimes he's very evasive in the locker room,
Speaker 1: and you both know that, right he can be evasive.
Speaker 1: He seemed very he was very happy after that ball
Speaker 1: game any reasons, very very happy, and like you said,
Speaker 1: it was awesome to finally get him because I remember, actually, Ethan,
Speaker 1: you can attest to this. At one point um in
Speaker 1: the locker room this season, Marcus is like, all right,
Speaker 1: you guys can't get me until week twelve for an interview.
Speaker 1: And we're like, okay, fine, I come up to a
Speaker 1: week twelve and like, hey, we took we took note
Speaker 1: that Marcus said week twelve because there's no way Marcus
Speaker 1: would have remembered that, but there's a very good chance
Speaker 1: that we would have remembered that. Listen, Marcus may great dude,
Speaker 1: hard to depend down sometimes, but when you have a
Speaker 1: conversation with him, he's great. One of the one of
Speaker 1: the best guys in the locker room. Was not out
Speaker 1: about it, and he's a Florda Gator, So okay, that
Speaker 1: gives them the edge. Just going off this um off
Speaker 1: of what he was saying, not only at the end
Speaker 1: of the game, like what are your game day responsibilities?
Speaker 1: And you start in the press box, you go down
Speaker 1: to the field, you basically have two homes on game day,
Speaker 1: So what are your different responsibilities at home? So home
Speaker 1: games are always super crazy, but it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: They kind of differ um depending which week it is.
Speaker 1: But to give a kind of overall what I basically
Speaker 1: do is I will shoot pre game you know, pre
Speaker 1: game Central presented by Pepsi, You and Anthony Bet. I'll
Speaker 1: shoot my Island hits before then. Sorry, guys, spoiler alert
Speaker 1: that one's not necessarily live. Shoot that one beforehand, so
Speaker 1: that I always have to do a few hours before
Speaker 1: the game starts, and then by the time I get back,
Speaker 1: I usually find you and then you and I have
Speaker 1: to do Keys to the game, which we do right
Speaker 1: by the MetLife Gate entrance, which is always really cool. Um,
Speaker 1: there's one game left, if you guys want to come
Speaker 1: watch that. We need we need some love at the
Speaker 1: Keys of the game. We need some love, right yeah,
Speaker 1: right at the MetLife Gay entrance. That's me and Ethan
Speaker 1: Greenberg right there on that big stage and we're yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't miss us, you can't, really can't, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but you don't like to stop. So I think it's
Speaker 1: fascinating because you're doing like triple duty because then you're
Speaker 1: in the press box for a little bit, but you
Speaker 1: it's kickoff. You were actually down on the field for
Speaker 1: most of the first half because you talked to a
Speaker 1: couple alarms, I believe, and then also a couple of
Speaker 1: youth football players. Yeah, yeah, those were really funny. So, um,
Speaker 1: I don't usually do that, but yeah, like you guys said, so,
Speaker 1: I was on the field for the entire first half
Speaker 1: of the game, interviewed w w E legend mcfooley. I
Speaker 1: didn't grow up watching w w E. But it was
Speaker 1: pretty cool because everybody in the in the stands seems
Speaker 1: to know who he was. I was going to say
Speaker 1: in the press box, people in the press box know
Speaker 1: who he is. Yeah. And then I interviewed um Laverne Coles,
Speaker 1: which was really cool. We talked about his Monday Night
Speaker 1: miracle game and that reception. Um So, that was really sweet.
Speaker 1: That was actually his first career touchdown catch, which came
Speaker 1: in two thousands, which was really cool. Um. And then
Speaker 1: after that, uh, like you said, I interviewed a couple
Speaker 1: of youth football players and those are always really interesting
Speaker 1: to interview the little kids because you know, kids are
Speaker 1: so honest and you never know what they're actually going
Speaker 1: to say when you interview them. Um. So I had
Speaker 1: to make sure that they were Jets fans, so when
Speaker 1: I interviewed them. So then you roll up, I believe,
Speaker 1: and then after the game you start penning a piece
Speaker 1: on Robbie Anderson. What do you think about Robbie Anderson,
Speaker 1: Like Green's mentioned in our first segment here, he's streaking
Speaker 1: again in December. What do you make of the connection,
Speaker 1: because that's what you used in the headline, that connection
Speaker 1: that he has with Sam Donald. Yeah. So I actually
Speaker 1: was able to talk to Robbie Anderson after the game,
Speaker 1: and something really interesting that he said and I wrote
Speaker 1: about this, like you mentioned, was that they don't prepare
Speaker 1: obviously any differently than they would in practice. So he's
Speaker 1: said that they were just taking what they were doing
Speaker 1: in practice translating onto the field game day. But what
Speaker 1: really stood out to me was when he was talking
Speaker 1: about his connection heating up with Sam Donald, and he
Speaker 1: mentioned how he just feels like Sam now trusts Robbie
Speaker 1: enough to where he he's just going to give the
Speaker 1: ball to him and let him do his thing. So,
Speaker 1: like you guys already said, three plus receiving yard games
Speaker 1: and Sam Donald not only talks about it yesterday, but
Speaker 1: he also talks about it today on player conference calls.
Speaker 1: He was really just talking about how Robbie when he
Speaker 1: gets hot and he gets rolling, they go with it
Speaker 1: and we saw that yesterday, So yeah, I think Robbie
Speaker 1: is on a hot streaking you you mentioned this, you
Speaker 1: you said the colder it gets the hotter up Anderson. Statistically,
Speaker 1: when you look at Robbie's numbers throughout his four year
Speaker 1: career or three plus year career, his best numbers are
Speaker 1: in December and last year in weeks thirteen to seventeen,
Speaker 1: he was eight in the NFL with three four receiving yards.
Speaker 1: That's really when Robbie and Sam's connection took off. And
Speaker 1: I think what you just said that it intrigues me
Speaker 1: that Sam Donald is at the point where he just
Speaker 1: trusts Robbie because you you've seen it in glimpses where
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson of course is coming over the middle more.
Speaker 1: But he's really had a lot of tough catches and
Speaker 1: one that stands out against the Raiders on the trick play,
Speaker 1: the end around flee flicker like Robbie had to catch
Speaker 1: the ball over the defender, and against the Bengals last
Speaker 1: week he got cracked over the middle, hung onto the ball.
Speaker 1: Even yesterday against the Dolphins, I thought there were a
Speaker 1: number of catches that were difficult catches that Robby Anderson
Speaker 1: ended up with the ball. And I'm sure you talked
Speaker 1: about that with Hines Ward. Yeah, I I did. And
Speaker 1: just actually building off of that. UM. One other thing
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention. Sam Donald said it yesterday post game.
Speaker 1: He said, oftentimes Robbie Anderson gets cloud coverage and that's
Speaker 1: you know, when the safety comes over the top because
Speaker 1: of how fast he is. And so he said, that's
Speaker 1: why a lot of times this season maybe the stats
Speaker 1: haven't been showing up on the stats sheet, it's because
Speaker 1: of the coverage that defenses are providing on him. So
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's a good point. Listen, that's
Speaker 1: gonna dictate where Sam Donald's gonna go with the football.
Speaker 1: The more attention Robbie gets, the more bald distribution goes elsewhere.
Speaker 1: But Adam Gaze has said, this guy is super aggressive
Speaker 1: with the ball. He tracks the long ball better than
Speaker 1: perhaps anybody in the National Football League. You both have
Speaker 1: mentioned the expansion of the route tree for Robbie Anderson.
Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of crossing routes in this offense.
Speaker 1: UM Adam Gaze's offense with Robbie Anderson. His toughness has
Speaker 1: been showcased over the last couple of weeks especially and
Speaker 1: deep ends making the catches and if you play one
Speaker 1: on one against him, fourteen is gonna find him. And
Speaker 1: we saw that last December. We're starting to see it again.
Speaker 1: And oh boy to the New York Jets needed Thursday
Speaker 1: night against the Baltimore Ravens because we can get into
Speaker 1: that match up later. But Baltimore has one of the
Speaker 1: best group of cornerbacks in the National Football League. I
Speaker 1: want to get into You're sit down with Hindes ward
Speaker 1: because the week following the Jets in Baltimore Ravens, Jets
Speaker 1: are going peck to Pittsburgh and Hines Warden knows a
Speaker 1: little bit about the Steelers. But we're gonna come right back.
Speaker 1: You've got a little time. I have a little time, okay,
Speaker 1: So we'll come right back on the other side of
Speaker 1: the Lovingtlantis. We're gonna talk more Jets Ravens football. We're
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Speaker 1: and tent crof the Trump, there's some pressure fires of
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Speaker 1: stoops into the end zone. That's a Jet touchdown, Creativity seconds,
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Speaker 1: here about your sit down with A four mentioned Hines Ward.
Speaker 1: What did you take from that? Yeah, So he was
Speaker 1: an absolutely awesome interview. I asked him a lot about
Speaker 1: his playing career and how that kind of influences the
Speaker 1: way he coaches now. And you know, we were talking
Speaker 1: about it right before when we were on commercial. We
Speaker 1: were talking about how he won Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: and he had a short stint in TV, but he
Speaker 1: said coaching is really, um, really an area that he's
Speaker 1: loved so far and because he was the Bill Walsh
Speaker 1: in turn this summer and then he transitioned into an
Speaker 1: offensive assistant. He was talking about how he really tries
Speaker 1: to be humble and he doesn't necessarily push what he's
Speaker 1: done onto his group of wide receivers, which I thought
Speaker 1: was really interesting because you know, you would think being
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl m VP a super Bowl or a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, a Super Bowl MVP is Super Bowl champion,
Speaker 1: that he would you know, kind of show them the
Speaker 1: way with how he did things. But he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm honestly very humble. I don't like to push my
Speaker 1: success onto other guys. I'm really just focused on them.
Speaker 1: And you know, we got into Robby Anderson, of course,
Speaker 1: what he say about Robbie. You know, Robbie always mentions
Speaker 1: Hines Ward always and I even told him that I
Speaker 1: was like, he had high praise for you this training camp.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, he said, he loves Robbie, and
Speaker 1: what he is focused on most with Robbie is making
Speaker 1: sure he doesn't see himself as just a one dimensional
Speaker 1: wide receiver. And I actually think Robbie has talked about
Speaker 1: that a lot, about becoming more of uh, you know,
Speaker 1: a multi threat receiver, and he said he's really trying
Speaker 1: to make sure and focus that Robbie doesn't think, Hey,
Speaker 1: I can just catch a deep ball and that's it
Speaker 1: and it's just about my speed. He said. They've done
Speaker 1: a really good job so far this season of instealing
Speaker 1: different routes, learning, you know, different types, um of ways
Speaker 1: to approach his receiver game, which Hines Ward one of
Speaker 1: the most complete receivers in the history of the National
Speaker 1: Football League. I know other guys had more stats, but
Speaker 1: when you think about his career in Pittsburgh and what
Speaker 1: he brought to the table and how clutch he was
Speaker 1: had what a vicious blocker he was as well. I
Speaker 1: love the coaching staff the Jets have assembled in that
Speaker 1: wide receiver room because he got Shawn Jefferson paired with
Speaker 1: Hines Ward. If I'm a young receiver in the National
Speaker 1: Football League, like a Vincent Smith, like a Robbie Anderson,
Speaker 1: perfect staff to coach these guys up. And then you
Speaker 1: add another guy to the mix, like a Demarrius Thomas
Speaker 1: say the same things. He's like a third coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a third coach Greens, you know, because he obviously
Speaker 1: has familiarity with the system and and Demarius Thomas. The
Speaker 1: thing that stands out to me about Damarius Thomas is
Speaker 1: not even about his play. Is that for a guy
Speaker 1: to come in late after a week one and he's
Speaker 1: wearing the sea on his chest meeting. He's a permanent
Speaker 1: captain of this team and he's doing something right, and
Speaker 1: the guys in the locker room love him. But I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you live something that EA had briefly
Speaker 1: mentioned about Seawn Jefferson and Hines Ward. You've interviewed both
Speaker 1: of those guys when I don't think fans see a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys. Obviously in person, you see him
Speaker 1: on the sideline. They're both very animated on game days.
Speaker 1: But how do those guys complement each other, and how
Speaker 1: are those guys different in personality and coaching style. That's
Speaker 1: a good question. I think, um Sean Jefferson is just
Speaker 1: so animated, which I really love about him. He's he's
Speaker 1: very honest and upfront with his emotions, kind of wears
Speaker 1: his emotions on on his sleeve. But he's very vocal.
Speaker 1: I would say, I think he's a very vocal leader.
Speaker 1: Whereas when you look at hines Ward, he said he
Speaker 1: approaches each player differently. He said. Some guys I can
Speaker 1: yell at and that will motivate them, he said, but
Speaker 1: some guys that doesn't work. He didn't name any names,
Speaker 1: so I don't know who takes the yelling better than others.
Speaker 1: But um, I think maybe he's a little bit more
Speaker 1: specific in his approach, Himes Ward um into each individual player.
Speaker 1: But Sean Jefferson, you know, he's he just I love
Speaker 1: his approach to because he's just so authentic to himself.
Speaker 1: And I think the players like that because they can
Speaker 1: trust him. You know, so very different personalities and two
Speaker 1: totally different approaches, but it works. I have to be honest.
Speaker 1: I was a little bit scared inside one Jets Drive
Speaker 1: today because we did have Hines Ward in the building,
Speaker 1: the former Steeler. Great of course he's there every day,
Speaker 1: but when we bring Bart Scott into the building as well,
Speaker 1: those guys have exchanged pleasantries over the years. Fortunately, uh,
Speaker 1: that's not happening anymore. But those two would bring it
Speaker 1: every time, and those rivalries, that rivalry between the Ravens
Speaker 1: and Steelers very real. Love. I'd love to see Hines
Speaker 1: Ward and Bart Scott in a room watching film of
Speaker 1: old Ravens Steelers games, and just I'd want to see
Speaker 1: it as long as they promised that they wouldn't get physical. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: it's funny that you said that, because actually we we
Speaker 1: asked hines Ward about Bart Scott. He's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: um He's like me and me and Bart should be good.
Speaker 1: We're too grown for that. So actually, because I did
Speaker 1: um my Next Gen Stats a segment with Bart Scott
Speaker 1: after I did my interview with hines Ward, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: hines Hind said, let's bury the hatchet. Are you up
Speaker 1: for that? And he was like, all right, fine, but
Speaker 1: you know Bart, Yeah, there you go. You looked that
Speaker 1: up YouTube later, folks, Bart Scott, hines Wards. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they went after it over the years. Okay, let's get
Speaker 1: to some calls. Let's start with IRA and Staten Island. Ira,
Speaker 1: what's going on, buddy, Hey, what's happened? What's happened? Guys
Speaker 1: over there? Hey? Good, good, everything's good. You know, just
Speaker 1: give me an extra second in tonight. I know you've
Speaker 1: got guys waiting, but I just have to throw this
Speaker 1: out here. You know, I've heard a lot of negativity
Speaker 1: on the radio today and I had to shut it off.
Speaker 1: It's really refreshing to hear some positive stuff after we
Speaker 1: beat the Dolphins yesterday. I'm not going to make excuses
Speaker 1: or throw back because maybe it didn't look pretty. The
Speaker 1: bottom line is it's hard to win in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and we beat the Dolphins. We won our first division
Speaker 1: game of the year, and we won four of our
Speaker 1: last five games. I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: what was the source schedule? We played week teams? We
Speaker 1: ended up winning four of our last five games. With
Speaker 1: everything that has gone on, with every piece of adversity
Speaker 1: that you could throw with Adam Gates in this coaching
Speaker 1: tip between Sam getting sick, the fifth team players on
Speaker 1: I multiple injuries, and look at the job that Bred
Speaker 1: Williams has done. You guys are probably too young to
Speaker 1: remember the movie that Dirty does. Okay, he took a
Speaker 1: bunch of misfits and they turned him into an army unit.
Speaker 1: You know exactly where I'm going. And that's how Greg
Speaker 1: Williams has done with this defense. And I think they've
Speaker 1: done a massive ol job. The whole Dolphins, the seventh
Speaker 1: fieldgo yesterday. You know I hear people complaining, well, they
Speaker 1: got down the field for seventh field goal. But guess what,
Speaker 1: he kept him out of the end zone. And that's
Speaker 1: the big story of yesterday's game. And the same thing
Speaker 1: with Donald. Was he perfect? No, did he make some mistakes.
Speaker 1: The sack was a bad, but guess what he bounce
Speaker 1: right back and he hit Montgomery with that twelve yard
Speaker 1: If he doesn't make that play, tickets going for fifty
Speaker 1: five yards, you'll go in tom of forty forty four
Speaker 1: yard field though, So I'm tired of listening to old negativity.
Speaker 1: I get frustrated too, But listen at five and eight
Speaker 1: with three games to go, with everything that's happened, Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see how they finish out the year. I I
Speaker 1: think some positive stuff the last couple of weeks. Well
Speaker 1: thanks to recalling all right, listen, I love the positivity.
Speaker 1: I always brings that when we look back at this season. Listen,
Speaker 1: I know in a pressing release it's written about the
Speaker 1: number of games the Jets have missed in terms of
Speaker 1: the players and the seven starters on injury reserve, and
Speaker 1: and on and on about the adversity this team has
Speaker 1: definitely endured. But they're still going. They're five and eight,
Speaker 1: nobody is jumping around the locker room saying we're champions.
Speaker 1: Know exactly where they're at. And when you look back
Speaker 1: at this season, you're probably gonna look back at a
Speaker 1: couple of games and say, Buffalo sixteen point lead game one.
Speaker 1: You're gonna look back at Jacksonville in December. Right now,
Speaker 1: you're a better team than Jacksonville. When you went down
Speaker 1: there with the situation you had, you weren't Cincinnati. You
Speaker 1: look back at that one and say, we should have
Speaker 1: had it. Well, what about Miami? Miami Miami the first time?
Speaker 1: So what it could have shot up? But every team
Speaker 1: in the National Football League can play that game. The
Speaker 1: bottom line is you gotta finish it out. And now
Speaker 1: with the new regime with Joe Douglas and company, you
Speaker 1: gotta let them address where this roster is weak and
Speaker 1: needs more adopted, needs more talent up front. They know
Speaker 1: this is not a perfect roster. They get a lot
Speaker 1: of work to do. And I think that a lot
Speaker 1: of fans have faith in Joe Douglas to address the
Speaker 1: needs upfront because you you hear about Joe Douglas and
Speaker 1: he's a former offensive lineman and so far you know,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a small sample size. Joe Douglas, I
Speaker 1: think he's done a pretty good job here. And I
Speaker 1: just want to circle back to something Irah said about
Speaker 1: the schedule and how a lot of people point to
Speaker 1: the Jets as opponents being weak. Well, I'm gonna steal
Speaker 1: a phrase that's commonly used, but very commonly using the NFL.
Speaker 1: You can control what you can control. What you can't
Speaker 1: control is who pops up on your schedule and how
Speaker 1: those teams performed throughout the season. I don't care if
Speaker 1: the Jets beat the Dolphins. I don't care if the
Speaker 1: Jets whoever the Jets beat, A win's a win. And
Speaker 1: to IRA's point, like when you look back at the season,
Speaker 1: it's always twenty twenty hindsight to e Ace point, But
Speaker 1: when you look at the Jets of schedule, when we
Speaker 1: were all looking at the schedule from week one, you're thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: Week two, you're facing the Cleveland Browns odds on. You
Speaker 1: know they were they were prime time. Everyone wanted to
Speaker 1: put the Browns in the Super Bowl. The Browns haven't
Speaker 1: lived up to that hype. So at that time, you're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: the Browns are gonna be a good team the Cowboys
Speaker 1: when the Jets played them, hot team since trailed off,
Speaker 1: even the Eagles in Week four. The Jets were depleted
Speaker 1: with injuries, but at that time the Eagles were a
Speaker 1: playoff team that's dealing with some bumps in the road.
Speaker 1: So again, every to me, every NFL season is unpredictable,
Speaker 1: at least when you're trying to say that team is
Speaker 1: gonna be good, that team is gonna be good. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's some shoeins, but more times than not, a lot
Speaker 1: of these teams don't end up playing the way that
Speaker 1: you think. So again, you can control what you can control.
Speaker 1: It's not the Jets fault that they have the Bengals
Speaker 1: and Dolphins and back to back weeks, and those teams
Speaker 1: perform how they perform, and the only thing you can
Speaker 1: focus on is getting a win that week, and the
Speaker 1: Jets did that yesterday. I agree with that, just because
Speaker 1: when you look at it, every game is winnable and
Speaker 1: every game is losable, Like it is so hard to
Speaker 1: win in the NFL. And players say this all the time,
Speaker 1: coaches say this all the time, and I agree to
Speaker 1: your point. It's like when you look at a schedule,
Speaker 1: especially at the beginning of the year, you always kind
Speaker 1: of want to make assumptions or guesses as to how
Speaker 1: the season is going to go. Nine times out attendant
Speaker 1: never ends up the way you think it's going to go,
Speaker 1: and teams, like you said, are never going to play
Speaker 1: the way you think they're not. Not only a negative
Speaker 1: I'm not just speaking in negative terms, but positive terms
Speaker 1: as well. It's just it's so absolutely unpredictable, and we
Speaker 1: see it every single week, things that happened in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You're always like, what, Yeah, Like, I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of people projected the forty Niners to be one
Speaker 1: of the two top teams in the NFL at this
Speaker 1: point in the season. I don't think so either can you.
Speaker 1: I do think we do have to look at this
Speaker 1: and add some perspective and say, you lined up in
Speaker 1: your secondary yesterday. What Marcus May who is the only
Speaker 1: Jet defensive back to have started all thirteen games now,
Speaker 1: Maurice Kennedy, Nate Harriston, Rookie Bless Austin, who started the
Speaker 1: year ahead and played a game since Rutgers two thousand eighteen.
Speaker 1: Tyrone Brown, who actually got hurt yesterday, was placed on
Speaker 1: injured reserve. I mean, you don't make apologies for what happened.
Speaker 1: And Darryl Roberts movie again again. So you played that
Speaker 1: game without Jamal Adams. So yeah, Miami got in the
Speaker 1: red zone six times. They came away with zero touchdowns.
Speaker 1: All the credit to Greg Williams and those guys busting
Speaker 1: their towels because I'll tell you what it could have
Speaker 1: been worse. Philadelphia Eagles will tell you that because the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins the week before they scored. Miami scored at
Speaker 1: six consecutive possessions. All right, we got one more segment
Speaker 1: on nine three, seven, seven six, We'll come right back.
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Speaker 1: Uh we have so many callers in the queue. We
Speaker 1: better get to a couple of calls as we look
Speaker 1: ahead to the Jets Ravens Thursday night. Let's go to Richard,
Speaker 1: who's been on hold for a while. You're in Manhattan, Richard,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Hi, Rick, Olivia, Hi, guys, doing great, good good?
Speaker 1: All right, I have to hass interference place. And I
Speaker 1: saw yesterday one in the Jet game. One in the
Speaker 1: San Francisco game. I don't understand what I'm watching anymore.
Speaker 1: All right, the Jet game, the Chet White wide receiver
Speaker 1: was going no. The Jet defender was guarding the Miami
Speaker 1: wide receiver right sideline, and the ball was severely undertrone.
Speaker 1: There was incidental contact, both were both the receiver and
Speaker 1: the defender were bad ling a little bit hand and
Speaker 1: you know, hand combat, but nothing major. But the ball
Speaker 1: was completely overthrowned. By seven or eight yards under throne.
Speaker 1: The why deceive that had no chance to catch it.
Speaker 1: They ran into each other and they called the flag.
Speaker 1: Jets didn't challenge it. Nothing happened, But that was did
Speaker 1: you know what the call I'm talking about? Yes, we do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know about to call another game.
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you as all Jets. Yesterday
Speaker 1: I saw a little bit of the Sunday night game
Speaker 1: A right, so you agree that that was not that
Speaker 1: should not have been a no call. Well, thanks for
Speaker 1: the call, Richard Greens. I know you wanted to comment
Speaker 1: on that we were talking about in the spose yesterday.
Speaker 1: If you're Blessed, I think this is the Blessed Austin
Speaker 1: playing when I don't know who the intended receiver was,
Speaker 1: but Bless is almost getting hugged and he's trying to
Speaker 1: You know, the rule in the NFL is, if you're
Speaker 1: a defender, you have to look back for the ball,
Speaker 1: and in bless Austin's case yesterday, the only way he
Speaker 1: could look back for the ball was literally like bending
Speaker 1: his back backwards and looking over like over his head.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what he's supposed to do in
Speaker 1: that situation. But I think under the rules it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be a defensive past interference call. I don't know,
Speaker 1: given I don't know, given the new rules, if you
Speaker 1: can challenge and then say that the ball was uncatchable though, well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing with pass interference is a lot of
Speaker 1: times to the richest point, you see the past interference
Speaker 1: flag get picked up because the ball is uncatchable. Okay,
Speaker 1: where you don't see that hal But as if a
Speaker 1: defensive holding, defensive holdings just five yards first down and
Speaker 1: here we go. Um, yeah, listen, officiating crew. Yesterday there
Speaker 1: were a couple of calls where maybe you go back
Speaker 1: and look and you talked to the league about it.
Speaker 1: And because each team every week they go back and
Speaker 1: watch the film, they submit a report to the league.
Speaker 1: That's all part of the deal. Um. It's a tough job,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. The big thing for a defensive back,
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, wherever the ball is, try to
Speaker 1: find it because you're not going to get the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt nine times out of ten if you're
Speaker 1: back is facing the quarterback. Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: And if it's the play that I'm thinking about it
Speaker 1: actually happened right in front of me, and I remember
Speaker 1: thinking in my head, if you're blessed, Austin, you have
Speaker 1: to at least try and turn as best possible, because,
Speaker 1: like you said, the biggest thing on a call like
Speaker 1: that is you have to make a play on the ball.
Speaker 1: And he didn't even turn. So I think that's where
Speaker 1: that call came in. And you know, whether you agree
Speaker 1: with it or not, like you said, I think nine
Speaker 1: times out of ten, the dB is not going to
Speaker 1: get the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, let's move on
Speaker 1: here and go to East Haven. Gary, you're on the line.
Speaker 1: All right, Listen, guys, you have a great show. I
Speaker 1: love this and you know, with rich Richard Manhattan, I
Speaker 1: call it grew in the host with Richard Manhattan. Um,
Speaker 1: you guys, I'm a big Jet fan. I moved up
Speaker 1: to East Haven. I know it's I'm in bed territory
Speaker 1: up there. But still the thing with the thing with
Speaker 1: the Jets, man, I always emphasize the offensive line. I
Speaker 1: talk about it, and I just don't want to be
Speaker 1: on two on those shows any But I found out
Speaker 1: about you guys from Jonathan Freeman Show Talking Sports. He
Speaker 1: talks about you guys. He's a big Jet fan and
Speaker 1: he loves it, and that's how I found out about
Speaker 1: the show. And I'm hooked on with Jet fan. I mean,
Speaker 1: talking sports with Jonathan Freeman is a great show, but
Speaker 1: talking to Jets, you need ira from Coney Island to
Speaker 1: the island which one and Stanton right right, there's an
Speaker 1: island there, even though he's halfhim, already an islands Like, so,
Speaker 1: what do you got with the offensive line? The offensive
Speaker 1: line is Listen, you know you really can't. To me,
Speaker 1: you cannot evaluate a quarterback to get him an offensive line,
Speaker 1: because you can still tell if you can get the
Speaker 1: ball out to the receivers. It's nice to have good receivers,
Speaker 1: but without that offensive line, that that's the that's the
Speaker 1: genesis of the offense. That's when you move it. That's
Speaker 1: how you can evaluate this guy and really know how
Speaker 1: good of a quarterback you are. When you have four
Speaker 1: under pound lineman sitting on your head, it's very difficult
Speaker 1: to do an evaluation. Thanks for the calling, Gary, I think,
Speaker 1: well one we talked about a little bit. I think
Speaker 1: we all are in agreement here, Eric Olivia and myself
Speaker 1: that Joe Douglas will address the offensive line moving forward,
Speaker 1: and one about the Jets offensive line this year. I
Speaker 1: mean they might be the position group that's been decimated
Speaker 1: by injuries. Most they've had somebody start. They've had at
Speaker 1: least two players start across the line at each position,
Speaker 1: and some positions have had three players when you think
Speaker 1: about left tackle Calvin Beecham, Brandon Shell, and Shuma Adoga.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jets have been decimated by injuries. And
Speaker 1: I know it's still the regular season, but if you're
Speaker 1: looking ahead to April and the draft, this is, as
Speaker 1: it stands, a very good draft pack draft class for
Speaker 1: offensive tackles, So you know there's a lot there's a
Speaker 1: lot of players, depth, and a lot of talent the
Speaker 1: Jets can add in free agency and then the same
Speaker 1: thing in the draft. I thought the offensive line actually
Speaker 1: had a bounce back game against Miami after a tough
Speaker 1: showing against the Bengals. Blah Paul ran for a team
Speaker 1: high seventy four yards on nineteen carries. I like the volume,
Speaker 1: two thirty two carries and all for a hundred and
Speaker 1: twelve yards. And Sam Donald is a very effect of
Speaker 1: play action pass or it's going to be a monstrous
Speaker 1: dust for this team. UM in Baltimore Thursday night, short week,
Speaker 1: but uh, Ethan, thank you so much for filling in
Speaker 1: for Eric Coleman Olivia. I said you're gonna come out
Speaker 1: for two segments, he came out for three. Were so
Speaker 1: thankful for you stopping by. And the Alan Han Show
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