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Speaker 2: Good Afternoon, Steelers Nation, and welcome back to the campus

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Speaker 2: of Saint Vincent College. It's the drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio. Weshooler and Matt Williamson with you for the

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Speaker 2: next three hours. Seems a little bit more of a

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Speaker 2: daunting task today, Matt, with this happening in front of us.

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Speaker 2: There has been no practice since the last time we

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Speaker 2: were on air, So.

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Speaker 3: This is our third one right that we've just had

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Speaker 3: grass in front of us to comment on.

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Speaker 2: I was saying this, I was saying this to Max

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Speaker 2: earlier when we were having lunch, and I need to

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Speaker 2: preface this first by it's all relative, Okay, Matt. We

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Speaker 2: could be roofing, or we could be laying concrete. We

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Speaker 2: could be in an office crunching numbers for nine hours

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Speaker 2: a day, something we would so we could be doing

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Speaker 2: like real actual work and instead of you know, doing

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Speaker 2: football radio for a living. So it could absolutely be worse.

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Speaker 2: But I was saying that to Max today. I was like, Man,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I was expecting this week to be easy.

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Speaker 2: I was like, instead, we've had one practice that's been

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Speaker 2: on when Matt and I have been on, we have practice.

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Speaker 2: And the show was designed to show, was designed to

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Speaker 2: be But that's why there's the third bonus hour, because

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Speaker 2: it's supposed to be easy because right practice and it

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Speaker 2: all those different things.

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Speaker 3: But again, I mean, once again, we're looking at empty fields.

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Speaker 2: Once again, we are looking at coming this this today

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Speaker 2: is not a surprise. It had been the you know

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Speaker 2: a lot of the the disarray of this week up

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Speaker 2: to this point that that was surprise. So yeah, again,

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Speaker 2: could be worse. We could question. I could be roofing

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Speaker 2: people likeing.

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Speaker 3: Not this guy heights terrible in my hands, my least

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Speaker 3: favorite thing I've ever done.

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Speaker 2: It's like the it's like the old Bill Bird joke

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Speaker 2: about the hardest job in the world as being a

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Speaker 2: redheaded roofer in August in the South, something like, that's

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Speaker 2: the most difficult job in the world. This is not

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Speaker 2: the most difficult job in the world, but it would

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Speaker 2: be another one of those more open ended shows we

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Speaker 2: do have. Funny, we got to talk about what's going

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Speaker 2: on with Terry McClure and Michael Parsons as some chaos there.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit about that preseason game

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Speaker 2: last night and how the Steelers should approach preseason games.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Matt, Actually, at this time a week from now,

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Speaker 2: next Friday, we'll be on a plane in Pittsburgh getting

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Speaker 2: ready to take off the.

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Speaker 3: Jackson Yeah, it's it's soon, real soon Friday night, lights

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Speaker 3: to night and then which is gonna be a not

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Speaker 2: Most intense practice of training. Yeah, I would say at

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Speaker 3: Absolutely and and like you said, in a week it's

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Speaker 2: Let's roll, you know, flying to Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Start playing other teams. I mean, that's when it gets real.

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Speaker 2: Week from now, we'll all be loading onto the plane

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Speaker 3: There will be we haven't talked about it in a while,

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, the fourteenth, So the preseason game against the

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Speaker 3: Which I assume we'll be broadcasting from. We did the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh and then and then Friday, probably a day off,

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we a lot coming up, we do.

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Speaker 2: And that's good because I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm yeah, I'm getting there.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of like the dog days of camp

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Speaker 3: And you know what, all the Fame Game is last

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Speaker 2: You know, it was real football, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: gotta laugh. We'll little peel back of the curtain for everybody.

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Speaker 2: We all last night were sitting down at you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was quite a bit of us.

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Speaker 2: And the game gets started and our good friend, our colleague,

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Speaker 3: The Hall of Fame game, dude, you're that.

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Speaker 2: And I think my exact response was, but yeah, Mike's

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Speaker 3: He led it. I mean before things got started, he

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Speaker 2: Like other than Herbert, everybody in Darwin James, everybody's playing.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's playing, and they really really can't. I mean, not

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Speaker 3: It is playing quite a few starters in and then

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Speaker 3: I think I think you got this one, oh man.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, fumbling the first play the ball, first kickoff

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Speaker 3: To the no that's Benny Lyons fans listening. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: It absolutely was. And with that, Matt, let's localize it, right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: how do you think the stealer should approach the preseason?

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Speaker 2: where we should start, because that's the biggest wonder. How

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Speaker 2: you know, if that preseason pie is sitting in front

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Speaker 2: everybody involved, how you're divvying up that preseason pie for

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Speaker 3: I'm old enough to remember. And there was four preseason

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Speaker 2: The four, pretty uniform across the league.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know Week three would be like Ben and

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Speaker 3: And I also think this the league is more analytically

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Speaker 3: So let's start with quarterbacks. To me, that's the big conversation.

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Speaker 2: That's whatever one. How much are we going to see

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Speaker 3: that's the most he could play in.

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Speaker 2: The I think a series would be the most. He

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Speaker 3: But I would have the We have the luxury of

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Speaker 2: If he played more than seven or eight plays in

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Speaker 2: the preseason, I think I would be surprised.

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Speaker 3: I would take under ten until day all day long. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: so we're on the same page there. That's probably week

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Speaker 3: three at home.

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Speaker 3: you think Rudolph gets more and more as we go?

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Speaker 3: I would think he opens this.

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Speaker 2: I think I think you want to give Mason Rudolph

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Speaker 2: Oh, there absolutely is. And like you said, it's you

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Speaker 3: I bet Rogers plays in that, Yes, because quarterbacks won't

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Speaker 2: I think, absolutely definitely that has to be the case.

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Speaker 3: He comes right back the next day.

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Speaker 2: Some of some Steelers news coming across the timeline here,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's not super quick or twitchy off the ball,

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00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 3: and as a three four nose, he has a role

438
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 3: without question. It shocks me to some degree that he

439
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 3: isn't a little more coveted around the league. There's been

440
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 3: a couple of times in his career the Steeler has

441
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,719
Speaker 3: been able just to give him a call and get

442
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 3: him in here. But it's because pass rush is king,

443
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 3: you know. And he's not the best run stuffer in

444
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 3: the world, but he's a good one, yep. And it's

445
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 3: just those guys just don't get that many snaps over

446
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,479
Speaker 3: the course of a game, you know, even if you're

447
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 3: playing the Ravens or whatever. Now you mentioned there are

448
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,200
Speaker 3: some d line injuries, et cetera. I don't think any

449
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 3: of them are terrible or anything to worry about. But

450
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 3: he's gonna have a tough time making this team, as

451
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 3: are a lot of these D linemen. I mean that's

452
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 3: a depth position, sure, but for his sake, maybe he

453
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 3: can put I would think he will a handful quite

454
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 3: a few reps of preseason you know, we were talking

455
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 3: about preseason reps and preseason snaps. He kind of if

456
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 3: we start getting the D line, he might have a

457
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: pretty good case to be playing quite a few of them,

458
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 3: you know. You know, so maybe that ends up being

459
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,920
Speaker 3: a stealer practice squad guy, or I still think there's

460
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 3: an opportunity for the Steelers to trade a D lineman

461
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 3: somewhere along the way, and maybe he makes that a

462
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: little more feasible that Okay, if we can stick him

463
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 3: on the practice squad and we trade Dean Lowry or whatever,

464
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 3: we'll feel a little bit better about it.

465
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 2: Another Yeah.

466
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like I don't think he's the ninety third

467
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 3: best player here, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's

468
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 3: kind of a weird skill set.

469
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: I will never forget last training camp, last summer here,

470
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 2: he was on the practice show that they do on

471
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: Steelers dot Com Steelers Live.

472
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, he joined us for like got the one year.

473
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: He was always a funny guy and a good interview

474
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: about the Polynesians, you know. And if you remember back

475
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: to his time at L s U, like he was

476
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 2: a big personality on some really good L s U teams. Uh,

477
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: he's got that that that personality he's talking of. He's

478
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: fun to interview. And I remember last year he was

479
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 2: interviewing with Wolf On on Steelers dot Com on the

480
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: Practice Show and Wolf said, if you were on the

481
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: ty Panic, you could plug that hole and they would

482
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Speaker 2: have made it back to port.

483
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: He is kind of that round body.

484
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that man pursuito. I think about fell

485
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 2: out of his chair laughing. So oh man, no one

486
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: had away with words like our guy Wolf, that's for sure.

487
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's some some Steelers breaking news for

488
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: you here on A on A. I wonder if pract

489
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 2: this tonight Clark was right.

490
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 3: I mean they signed him in the morning and they

491
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: threw him right out there in the first time, first

492
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: rep on the field. Remember, Yeah, so no stepped up.

493
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll maybe they'll maybe they'll get Fioco right and

494
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: he's there in a team period and run right at him. Yeah,

495
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: I wonder if he's still has been in the area,

496
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: you know, or maybe maybe he's plane right now. But yeah,

497
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: but he I would imagine we'll at least be here

498
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 2: tomorrow if not tonight.

499
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

500
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: Sure, And you know what, sticking with breaking news, because

501
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: we got we have plenty of time today. We will

502
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 2: get back into some of that preseason. Yeah.

503
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 3: I want conversations not just about the quarterbacks but the.

504
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 2: Biggest story across the NFL right now, as you told

505
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 2: us right before we went to break breaking, just in

506
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: the last ten to fifteen minutes or so. Here Michael

507
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: Parson's young stud Pass Rusher of the Dallas Cowboys from Hershey, Pennsylvania,

508
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: which from where we're at, Matt now, Matt not too

509
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: far away, only.

510
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 3: No, you can get the pretty quickly, only.

511
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 2: About ninety minutes two hours away from from Hershey. Here.

512
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure we have a lot of Penn State fans

513
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 3: listening to.

514
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 2: I'm sure we do have a lot of Penn State listening. Absolutely,

515
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: I listen. Everyone knows there's been you know, there's been

516
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: some struggles in negotiations, There's been frustrations, there's been failure

517
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: to launch in the conversations between Micaeh Parsons and the Cowboys.

518
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: I think we've seen this too often with the Cowboys.

519
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: It's rightfully so. They've been criticized for leaving their contract

520
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: extensions so late, right, and then having to pay guys

521
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: more than they would have if they would have just

522
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: gotten it done. I didn't think it come to this

523
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: point though, where Michaeh. Parsons was officially requesting a trade

524
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: and putting out like a three page letter on his

525
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: social media account saying goodbye to Dallas.

526
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: I didn't either. He seemed all in. I mean, he

527
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: is considered a vocal leader, very cowboy esque, and you

528
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: know he could have been holding out, isn't you know?

529
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: And finally this said, I'm not seeing any progress here,

530
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: and I get the feeling that Jerry Jones isn't as

531
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 3: easy to deal with as usual, Yeah, as he used to.

532
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 3: I mean, if you just there's a lot of layers

533
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 3: this time we talk about all of them. The Cowboys

534
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: seem more interested maybe in selling their brand than winning

535
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: Super Bowls, and they have not been very active in

536
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: free agency the last couple of years. They do extend

537
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: their own often to more than they either both actually

538
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: more money than they should. They give their own yes,

539
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: and these kind of guys way too late, which ends

540
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: up being more money than they should. So sometimes they

541
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: do it early. The Zeke Elliots and some of those guys,

542
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: they'll extend and be like, man, why did they give

543
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: them that much? You aren't even competing against anyone for them.

544
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: So a lot of their contractual stuff has been head

545
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 3: scratching to say the least. And frankly, their owner is

546
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: getting old. I mean, I'm not saying he's washed upward anything,

547
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: but he might be losing his fastball to say the least,

548
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: and has different interests. And I've heard people say that

549
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: I don't kind of word disrespectfully, but if someone came

550
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: from heaven and said, hey, Jerry, you could win the

551
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: next Super Bowl and never speak to the media again,

552
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: would you say yes or no? And people in Dallas

553
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: say he would say no, I'll take my chances where

554
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 3: they're at, and I'm still gonna do my thing my

555
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: way and speak to the media and have a voice.

556
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: And he has every right to it's his team and

557
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: to give him this like he's not the only owner

558
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 2: in sports.

559
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: It's like that, right, And they're the most I think

560
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: they're the most valuable, you know, I think so in

561
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: all sports most organizations. Definitely in the league, right I

562
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: wasn't sure about other sports, but I think they're.

563
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: Maybe like like Real Madrid and Manchester United. I'm not

564
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: they are country.

565
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyway, now that it wouldn't be the first

566
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 3: time for someone to quote demand to trade, and then

567
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: tomorrow at this time where like Michael Parson signs the

568
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: biggest contract in history with Dallas blah.

569
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: Blah, it could do like the Miles Garrett thing could

570
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: still happen.

571
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: It could still happen, right, That's exactly how that happened

572
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: with Garrett. I'm trying to think of a recent example.

573
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: He nailed it, I mean, because he was huge and

574
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: he basically demanded trade and then they said, well, how

575
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: about we make you the highest paid defensive player ever.

576
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: Right now, I don't think Watts contract does the Cowboys

577
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: any favors at all. And I firmly believe that Parsons

578
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: is the most valuable defensive player on the planet right now. Okay,

579
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean he's the best, though he might be.

580
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 3: He's because of his age. Yes, he's more valuable than

581
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 3: what you're saying, Miles or TJ. You know, I mean,

582
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: he has more football ahead of him, and he's clearly

583
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: on their tier of edge pass rusher. He can also

584
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: do the off the ball stuff, but that's not why

585
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: you make him the highest paid guy. He's an elite

586
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: edge pass rusher and nobody noticed it last year because

587
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 3: the Cowboys season was shot. Dak Prescott was out for

588
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 3: the year. But when Parsons came back from injury, I

589
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 3: want to say, it's like we or something like that.

590
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: He got back. From that point on, he was the

591
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 3: best defensive player in the league. Now, he wasn't gonna

592
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: win Defensive MVP because didn't have the whole season, but

593
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: he was an unstoppable force. So I think he's really

594
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: even just entering his prime. He's gonna make or he

595
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: deserves a I'm gonna say a whole tier more than TJ,

596
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: but a nice bump over TJ. And if anyone, if

597
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: he does hit the open market, if anyone's gonna get

598
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: two first round picks in return, it's him. Again, he's

599
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: the most valuable defensive player out there. Now, we used

600
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: to see a lot of these trades. Khalil Mack. This

601
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: sounds insane, but like Jamal Adams got two first round picks,

602
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: and the league is really shied away from I'm gonna

603
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: give you two firsts and make you like the highest

604
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 3: paid guy out there. I mean, that's a lot to

605
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: give up for anybody. Absolute, But if it happens, it's

606
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: gonna be for him. You know, like if you're the

607
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: Lions or you know, I mean a team that's close

608
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: and you're thinking too late first, put him opposite Hutchinson.

609
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I could come up with five six teams

610
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: that should be interested in Hendrickson or especially Parsons. Absolutely,

611
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: for sure, I don't know. I mean I can't. I

612
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: feel I can't imagine them trading.

613
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: I still feel like the most likely situation is Jerry

614
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: Jones now pays him way more money than he would

615
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: have had to if he would have just gotten this

616
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: done ten.

617
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, couple, Apparently negotiations have not been close. No,

618
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: this should have happened two months ago, is the bottom line.

619
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: Absolutely, this should have happened like before Miles, Garrett and

620
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: TJ signed their extension right before Max Crosby.

621
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: You know, he's going to be more than those guys, so.

622
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: You should have just gotten it done. As soon as

623
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: the season was over and you were able to get done,

624
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: you should have gotten it done.

625
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: This happened this hap of CD Lamb, you know, and

626
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: it's also going to be higher because he's even more

627
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: valuable for his position and.

628
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: He's still so young. Still talked about most valuable sports franchises. Okay,

629
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: you're ready, just real quick. Number one Dallas Cowboys. Number

630
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: two Golden State Warriors. That surprised me, but I get it.

631
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: The geography to geography, so much success. Yeah, the last

632
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: ten they've won, you know, four or five championships in

633
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: the last ten twelve years. Number three La Rams really

634
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: Los Angeles again?

635
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean they're all I mean the NFL

636
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: is super powerful.

637
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: Yes. And then New York Yankees, four New York Knicks,

638
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: five Patriots, Giants, Lakers, Jets, Niners.

639
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: I would have guessed the Patriots were two in the NFL.

640
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: Yep, so they're three in the three behind the Rams,

641
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: so not far off. But yeah. Number one Dallas Cowboys

642
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: ten point one billion dollars according to Forbes's how much

643
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: they're worth.

644
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: And if they put up for the Forbes zones one

645
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: thousand dons better mean, now I'm really talking out of

646
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: the wrong side of my mouth. But I know, like

647
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 3: when a couple of these franchises lately went up for

648
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: sale Denver, Carolina, Washington, they thought they'd get six million

649
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: or billion or whatever, and that it'd been like eight.

650
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 3: You know, like ten point one sounds great, but if

651
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: it's on the open market, it might be I don't know.

652
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: I mean again, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The house that that that mansion might list for five million,

654
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Speaker 2: or if someone comes in and offers seven because they

655
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Speaker 2: just won it, right, exactly right, yeah, exactly right.

656
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Speaker 3: And they always go up in value. I mean, it's

657
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Speaker 3: a non losing.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's a it's a good place to be from

659
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: a business model, right in the National Football League, especially

660
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: even even the worst teams in the league have a

661
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: billion dollar valuations.

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Speaker 3: Now, I did say a lot of things questionable poor

663
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: about Jerry Jones, and mostly that's all football related. But

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Speaker 3: he's a Hall of Fame owner, and from what I understand,

665
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Speaker 3: there isn't an owner that made more money for this

666
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: league than him. I believe, like you were probably a

667
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: kid I was in my twenty.

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Speaker 2: Kind of similar to what you were talking about with

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Speaker 2: Al Davis the other day. Like, yeah, people remember the

670
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Speaker 2: twenty first century. Now Davis that wasn't the the ogoneer.

671
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Speaker 3: And what he did for the league, I mean he

672
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: I remember him making deals like with just the Cowboys,

673
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Speaker 3: not the league with like PEPSI like, I'm gonna do

674
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: my own thing here for a bazillion official soft drink

675
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: of the Dallas exactly exactly, And then the league start

676
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: being like William.

677
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: We could sell that, we could sell everything.

678
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: We can sell the right you put anything.

679
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: Somebody's logo in the end zone.

680
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Speaker 3: I don't care. So Jerry Jones has made this league

681
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: more profitable, a better league, and you know, better for everyone.

682
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: But I also worry he's losing fastball. I don't like

683
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: how that team's been organized, mostly football wise the last

684
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Speaker 3: five years or so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And I think sometimes you could be

686
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: a victim of your own success, like, yeah, you can

687
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: have so much success, and therefore you start putting your

688
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: hands in maybe more piles than you.

689
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: Should be, right, And who's to tell him no, Like

690
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: this doesn't own I don't know the human being, but

691
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: I think this is the case probably for Al Davis

692
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: as well, maybe true for the Colts as well, But

693
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: some of these organizations that the has always been a man,

694
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: but it could always be a woman as well. In

695
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: the future is so powerful, and like any of us,

696
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: you get old and you're just not as good a jump,

697
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: you know, I mean it's not I mean, if I

698
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: do this when I'm ninety, it's not gonna be as

699
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: good a listen, you know, there's no way. But who's

700
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: gonna pull him off the air? Slash tell him no, No,

701
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: there's probably nobody owns the radio station, right right, right,

702
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 3: you know, so he's gonna do what he does. And

703
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: he has that right again, he owns the team.

704
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna ask you to do your best.

705
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Speaker 3: Mike. You think he gets traded? I think no.

706
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Speaker 2: That's why I was just gonna ask, right, okay, you're

707
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 2: Mike Pursuer right now, right, and you gotta make a bet. Yeah,

708
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: he's a cow twenty twenty five he's a cowboy, or

709
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: he gets traded.

710
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Speaker 3: I would say it's sixty forty. He's a cowboy.

711
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: I would agree.

712
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes he's gets so nasty that the player

713
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: is done. I mean, and usually when it gets a

714
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: statement time on Twitter, blah blah blah, it's done. But

715
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: we thought that was Miles Garrett and we did. You know,

716
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: I know, we'll talk McLaurin because that's actually still irrelevant.

717
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: But I think both of them go back to their teams.

718
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: I guess, football wise, it makes too much sense not to.

719
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Speaker 2: I think so too.

720
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

721
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take another break there.

722
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Speaker 3: He would get a I would love to see what

723
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: he it's on the open market, just like in compensation

724
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Speaker 3: from draft picks or whatever, you know, from another team.

725
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it would be probably the closest that we've

726
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: seen to a you know, like a quarterback in his prime,

727
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: moving type type trade compensation for a defense.

728
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: Guys just don't move very often at all.

729
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: Gotta talk a little bit about Terry McLaurin as well too.

730
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Speaker 2: Let's do that when we return to close out this hour,

731
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Speaker 2: and then maybe in the three o'clock hour we'll get

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Speaker 2: back into more that pre season conversations.

733
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Speaker 3: Cool.

734
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: We've gotten one or two tweets so far. We'll get

735
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Speaker 2: to those before we get out of here as well.

736
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Speaker 2: At Williamson NFL at Wesleyuler, if you've got any thoughts

737
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: on Friday night lights, any thoughts on some of this

738
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: breaking trade request news across the NFL. Any questions on

739
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: Matt's big ideas for the Steelers, soup kitchen, any anything,

740
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: anything and everything. You know where to get at us

741
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: if you want to get involved, Matt Williamson west Shuler.

742
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Speaker 2: Final second of the first hour. Here is Matt and

752
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Speaker 2: I kick around, some trade requests, some news of the

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Speaker 2: day across the NFL. Uh if you're just joining us,

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00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: if you missed it. Brady Fijoco, back with the Pittsburgh Steelers,

755
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: says he's down thirty seven pounds on his Twitter account

756
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: as well too.

757
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 3: That plugging that Titanic holes.

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Speaker 2: On just got a little bit more, a little more difficult.

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Speaker 3: But I'm sure he's moving better. It must be. Must

760
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: have got some advice to do.

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00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. And then, of course Michael Parsons in the

762
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: last hour requesting a trade from the Dallas Cowboys in

763
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Speaker 2: a lan the statement that he put out on his

764
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: social media accounts, and we know that this is on

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Speaker 2: the heels of I believe it was yesterday right that

766
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin yeh, officially requested a trade from the Washington Commanders.

767
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 2: While Parsons is a bigger story across the NFL perspective,

768
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: he's worth one. Terry McLaurin is a is a one

769
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: that has some local angle here, certainly because I think

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00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: you should have a and we will like, would you

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00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: be interested if you were the Steelers in acquiring this guy?

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00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: What would you be willing to give up? All those

773
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: different things?

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Speaker 3: Yes, conversation worth having.

775
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Steelers, as we all know, certainly very well

776
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: could add another wide receiver.

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00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think there's four or five teams that

778
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: would make a lot of sense. The Chargers and Patriots

779
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 3: really come to mind too. I mean, they could really

780
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 3: use a second guy to Mconkey Diggs. Whoever. So let's

781
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: talk about the player McLaurin. He's very likable.

782
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: I mean, like he was not the he's not a

783
00:35:59,239 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 2: devil wide receiver.

784
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: No, he was not the Marvin Harrison junior five star

785
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: Ohio State starter from day one. Guy he had to

786
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: earn his bones. He played a lot of special teams,

787
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: tough guy, run down on punts and make tackles at

788
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: the college level and did not come out early because

789
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: he was not a superstar young. It took him a

790
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: little while to blossom at a big time school.

791
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: He was a Jeremiah Smith or Marvin Harrison exactly, Garrett

792
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: Wilson rolling right into Ohio State and starting it was

793
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: halfway through their freshman year.

794
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 3: Right, So he ended up coming out in the Deontay

795
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: Johnson DK Metcalf draft third round pick. But he is

796
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: about two years older than Metcalf and those other guys

797
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: that were underclassmen, so he's a little bit overaged for

798
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: how long he's been in the league, and that's important.

799
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: He's been one of the absolute poster boys for having

800
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: terrible quarterback play. I mean it's been one after another

801
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: after another, and if you look at his per game

802
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: stats is per year stats to his credit, before last year,

803
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: he was still very consistent, clearly Washington's number one guy,

804
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: and then Jaydeen Daniels shows up and everything goes up

805
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: two levels. You know, he starts finding the end zone

806
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 3: a heck of a lot more number spike. Now, this

807
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: is not the dissuade the Steelers from going after McLaurin.

808
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: I actually think his tape, not his production, was better

809
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: two and three years ago than last year. It's still

810
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: really really good. Yeah, I mean again, I think he's okay. Yeah,

811
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: I mean, better people throw the ball, better off.

812
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 2: Numbers go up. But if you just watch him on tape,

813
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: his separation wasn't quite what it was.

814
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: Yes, the story people couldn't take advantage of it. Now

815
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: that's more of a feather in his cap for what

816
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: he used to be, you know, as opposed to an ally.

817
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: So maybe even better.

818
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: So, I mean, but we're splitting him. He's still a

819
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: top fifteen receiver all day long, probably twelve to fifteen neighborhood.

820
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: There's so many good receivers. It's that's a very it's

821
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: a loaded position, yeah, and that's a real compliment at

822
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: that position. If you're the fifteenth best guard, it's not

823
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: as much of a compliment, you know. So he's still

824
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: really really good and he would help all offenses as

825
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: a one or a one B or whatever. Now Steelers

826
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: only he'd be perfect on the field, you know, I

827
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: mean just the culture, Yes, tough, he'd be loved, be

828
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: a lot of a core in Jerseys. Yeah, they have

829
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: some differences to their game, but I don't love the

830
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: fact that him and Metcalf are the same age in

831
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: NFL years. You know, you'd love to stagger the two

832
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: have an old guy young guy. You know, when the

833
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: old guy leaves, you pay the young guy and you

834
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: draft another one in the first round. I mean, it

835
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 3: just works out better financially.

836
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: What you're hoping that you just did with Cam Hayward

837
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: and Derek Carr exactly.

838
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean probably from two three years apart,

839
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: not fishing or whatever. But to your point, exactly one

840
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: hundred percent, and you would probably have very similar contracts.

841
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 3: Like I would think mclaurin's agent wherever he lands, will

842
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 3: cite the Metcalf contract and say I want ten percent

843
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: more and maybe you'll get it, maybe you won't, you know,

844
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: And if you are a Steeler, the Steelers might just

845
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: say we'll get the exact same contract. We want you

846
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: to squabbling over it.

847
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: We've got money to spend.

848
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: And that's how I'd handled if I were them. It

849
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, if we can make a deal, you

850
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: always have a contract in place before the trade because

851
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: you're not going to trade. Do it for the guy,

852
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 3: and then deal with this exact same scenario. I'd say,

853
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: here's the Metcalf contract. We're super interested. Now. There was

854
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: some scuffling at the bar last night. We didn't go

855
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: to blows or anything, but.

856
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: I almost had to.

857
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: Several folks in our party thought he's in a cost

858
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: of one. I don't believe that at all.

859
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't either. I do that capt didn't cost to one,

860
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: and he's two years younger exactly.

861
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: I think DK's worth a little bit more than McLaurin,

862
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: and he was basically contract to right exactly same, basically

863
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 3: the same scenario. The guys that get ones nowadays are

864
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: Aj Brown off his first contract, you know, not thirty

865
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: year old real good player, or Tyreek Hill at the

866
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: height of his powers when he's the best receiver on

867
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: the planet and it is the scariest guy you've ever seen.

868
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: Those are the dudes that gets one. I do not

869
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: think McLaurin would cost you a one. Now, if I'm

870
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: in Omar's shoes and i'm and ownership says, make the call.

871
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: You can't convince me to give up that first as

872
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: off the table. I don't care if you give me

873
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: mclaur in another pick that can't That is pigeon.

874
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: Project next year's quarterback class. The Steelers need for one

875
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: like you can't. Can't go up that first round pick.

876
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: Now as it stands, and it's almost likely to happen

877
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: this way. They're gonna have a first, a second, three threes,

878
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 3: and then a bunch of fourth five.

879
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: Right.

880
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: But the three threes is important, very important, you know.

881
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: So I think if it came down to it, I'll

882
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: give you my two, knowing I still have three threes

883
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: that I could maybe move back in the second round,

884
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: that first round pick and probably the future first round

885
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: pick after that, or pigeonholed for a quarterback. And if

886
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 3: you don't make this trade, one of those top five

887
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: picks is probably a receiver anyway, you know what I mean?

888
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: Like your receiver need is not alleviated even if you

889
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: signed Gabe Davis or something like that. Correct, Now, if

890
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: you make the McLaurin trade, I don't think you're drafted

891
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 3: a receiver next year, maybe two years from now, second

892
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 3: round or whatever.

893
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: You start to get that mclin and then you had

894
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson and Calvin Austin behind him.

895
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I mean you're you're where you want to be.

896
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Maybe you take a receiver in the sixth round. Well,

897
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: that's not like with a compensatory pick, because he's the

898
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: best guy left on your board at that point.

899
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: But next year's draft, I'm not in the receiver market

900
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: at all, but I would be if you don't make

901
00:41:59,600 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 3: this trade.

902
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: Now.

903
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: A lot of this is with the thought of, boy,

904
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: i'd love Terry McLaurin out here running around, and I

905
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: think that makes you a closer to a super Bowl contender.

906
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 3: To say you are a super Bowl contender, I don't

907
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: think that's insanity. I mean, you're a pretty loaded roster

908
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: with that, and but part of me also thinks the

909
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: nest so Metcalf under contract, McLaurin under contract, four fifths

910
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: of your young offensive line under contract, the third round

911
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 3: running back loaded a tight end, it's a really nice

912
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: spot to put a first round quarterback, real nice that's

913
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: about as nice as you could ask. Yes, that is

914
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: a soft nest to land in for this fragile egg

915
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: that we want to develop into the meanest bald eagle

916
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: of all time. But right now he's just yeah, right now,

917
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: he's just a little baby. We gotta we gotta, we

918
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: gotta nurse them a little bit. Mclaurin's good.

919
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: Chew up the worm and like feed it two.

920
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, all the predators that come around, they'll

921
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: fight them off, you know, and you probably have a defense.

922
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I don't think the defense will

923
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: look much different. Might not have sleigh, maybe Camra tires,

924
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: who knows, But I mean it's a pretty nice landing

925
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 3: spot to groom. JJ McCarthy like it is not you know, like,

926
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: are these dudes you know what I mean? Yeah, so

927
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: I'd be highly interested because and by the way, people

928
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: are like, dude, they just signed Ramsey, they just signed

929
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: what they don't make cap space? Yeah they do. Yeah,

930
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: they got tons and you could backload it for next year.

931
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 3: You could go to different players and renegotiate. They got

932
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: a lot of flexibility and they probably are going to

933
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: have a quarterback on a rookie deal for like the.

934
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: Next five for the next four. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

935
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: When Rudolph's your biggest quarterback contract, you're in good shape.

936
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: I think the the the thing that makes this a

937
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: real possibility is that they're there feels like such a

938
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: high floor with this guy. Yeah oh yeah, Like if

939
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: it feels like you know exactly what you're getting, exactly

940
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: who he is, exactly how he would compliment this offense.

941
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: His his rookie season, madd he had nine hundred and

942
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: nineteen receiving yards.

943
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: As a third round pick.

944
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: Every year since then, he's at over a thousand.

945
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, with some bad quarterback play.

946
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: His rookie season he missed two games with injury. Because

947
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: sophomore year he missed two games with injury. He hasn't

948
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: missed a game since.

949
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: I say he's been durable, he's been reliable, he's tough.

950
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 2: In a six year NFL career, he's missed two four

951
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: games in six years. I mean, that's that's pretty good.

952
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: Pre Daniels, that was about the worst organization league. And

953
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: he's the guy you put on the on the billboards,

954
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: not complaining, get me out of here, you know, not

955
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: the guy the.

956
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: Other defensive coordinator every week is saying, oh, you gotta

957
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: limit this guy. That's it. They got nobody else to compete.

958
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 3: Us, and boy, that'd be hard to do with Metcalf here.

959
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: I mean, someone's always going to have be singled and

960
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: Rogers is always going to throw to that guy. I

961
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 3: mean it's pretty alluring. All that being said, if I'm

962
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: the Commanders, well, it never would have got this point

963
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: to begin with.

964
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: Because the same conversation we just had, I would have

965
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: gotten this done months ago.

966
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: And he's important to Jade Daniel's nest. You know, I'm

967
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: in his development now. That team quarterback aside is far

968
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: and away the oldest in the league. They got real

969
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: old real quick. I mean they Gotobertz and Wagner and

970
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: Eklar and then they trade for Tunsl and Debo, and

971
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: you know, like everyone they're getting is old. So maybe

972
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: they're just looking at it like we can't invest in

973
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: a thirty. I mean maybe that's why maybe they will

974
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: trade him, but football wise, it makes little sense.

975
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, for them to move them. I completely agree with.

976
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: You, and it's pretty enticing.

977
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 2: It certainly is. For his career ninety seven games, six

978
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy nine receiving yards, an average of

979
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 2: nearly fourteen yards per reception, thirty eight touchdowns. He's he's

980
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: earned or he's gained three hundred first downs in his career.

981
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a move as well as explosive guy. Now,

982
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: would Washington and say yes to the Steelers second round

983
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: pick straight up? You might have to throw some spare

984
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 3: change in or in their shoes. Maybe they're give me

985
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: Calvin Austin in a two because we're still trying to win,

986
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, We're like, okay, throwing a

987
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: fifth a year from now. We got a deal or

988
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: you know whatever. You know, but that's pretty much my

989
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: baseline is the first can't go. I would maybe open

990
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: the conversation with how about two threes? And they'd be like,

991
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: how about a two and a three? How about a

992
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 3: two and a five? Yeah about two in Austin? All right,

993
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: throw me your fifth in twenty twenty seven. Ah yeah,

994
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: something like that.

995
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I listen, but the one can't move, the

996
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: one cannot move. We are in agreement with that. But

997
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: I think other than that we would be very interested.

998
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are a lot of teams very interested.

999
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: Because New England has a ton of capspace. The Chargers

1000
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: have a ton of caps face.

1001
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know New England is trying to build

1002
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: up that nest around Drake Mesh. Absolutely, the Chargers feel

1003
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: like they've got a quarterback in his prime who's ready

1004
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: to win. Right now, let's go.

1005
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: Maybe those teams could convince to get rid of a

1006
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 3: one because they have May and Herbert. I mean, I'm

1007
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: not saying to do it one for maybe it's McLaurin

1008
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: for one. Yeah. Yeah.

1009
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 2: And like if you're you know, if you're John Harball

1010
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: and you're convinced we're going to the playoffs, you know

1011
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna be picking in the late twenties or like the.

1012
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 3: Late first move down two rounds and had that guy,

1013
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: I mean he basically lost sense for a lot of teams.

1014
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: Oh certainly does no way that Steelers are trading their

1015
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: first though. I called the drafts on the north shore

1016
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, too Yeah, anti climatic. That would be

1017
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: to not have a first round pick.

1018
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: No, you can't do it.

1019
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: And you're right, quarterbacks are too important. This feels like

1020
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: and we need to wait and see, you know, the

1021
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: four months of the college football season and how it

1022
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: all plays out. But it feels like a loaded one

1023
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: of those years where could be.

1024
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: Good five or six first round quarterbacks drafted, subject to change, but.

1025
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: Always always subject to change. But yeah, I think building

1026
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 2: up that if you can, if you can retain your

1027
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: your chief capital while building up that nest, that's definitely

1028
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: something I'm sure that they are interested in.

1029
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: And you'd go into next year's draft likely with a

1030
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: first and three thirds and a bunch of four to

1031
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: fifth six. It's still a loaded class, right. It gives

1032
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: you a lot of liquidity to move up and go

1033
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: get something else you need. I know we're up against it.

1034
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: But the one sticking point with trading twos and threes,

1035
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 3: and this is why Broderck Jones is so important. If

1036
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: he doesn't work out this year and you don't pick

1037
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: up the fifth year option, you're not gonna get a

1038
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: left tackle on the street. You know you're gonna have

1039
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 3: to draft another one really high, and even a non

1040
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: first round left tackle, good luck is tough. It's real tough.

1041
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: So Roderck Jones has to hit.

1042
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that continues to be I think.

1043
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: Right, and and I'm gonna say he will alon't. I

1044
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: just don't know any more about him than they did.

1045
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: That continues, I think to be.

1046
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 3: That could be a one wrench in the plane.

1047
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: The greatest unknown. Yeah, in this entire Steeler season. As

1048
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: we roll forward hour in the books two hours to go,

1049
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: let's get back into some of that preseason conversation that

1050
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: we were having to start the show when we return

1051
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: on the other side, because some of your reactions and

1052
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: your tweets as well too. We will also have some

1053
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 2: audio for you in this show, as I believe I'm

1054
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: trying to recall, but DK Metcalf and Will Howard speaking,

1055
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: so two guys that we've talked about that will be

1056
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: fun to hear from.

1057
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: Hio State guy and DK's and Metcalf's and next running

1058
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 3: mate that's right now, that's how they have a Metcalf

1059
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: or a McLaurin correlation there.

1060
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: They certainly do. It feels like there's like always an

1061
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: Ohio State connect where those guys are all over the place. Yeah,

1062
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: and you know where to get at us if you

1063
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: want to get involved. As we roll along, Matt Williamson

1064
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: west Schuler, it is the drive here on the campus

1065
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: of Saint Vincent College, all part of our ongoing training

1066
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: camp coverage on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio

1067
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:40,439
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