Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to ok F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl, Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks.
Speaker 1: Happy Monday to all of you, and I hope that
Speaker 1: again everyone had a very good weekend, got some rest,
Speaker 1: had some reflection, got outdoors. I wanted to share something
Speaker 1: with all of you today, which is that at the
Speaker 1: end of last week, I had the really wonderful honor
Speaker 1: of being honored by my former high school. And I
Speaker 1: was so taken aback when I got an email asking
Speaker 1: if I would be interested in coming in prior to
Speaker 1: being entered into my former high school's Hall of Honors,
Speaker 1: which is for non athletes who the Hall of Famous
Speaker 1: for athletes, and the Hall of Honor is for people
Speaker 1: who have achieved I guess, made accomplishments, made waves in
Speaker 1: their chosen field. And I was so taken aback one
Speaker 1: because when I was going to school, I was one
Speaker 1: of a handful of black students. At the time, I
Speaker 1: was not out. I wouldn't come out for probably several
Speaker 1: years when I would graduate from college. And to think
Speaker 1: that I graduated with a graduating class of eleven hundred
Speaker 1: and three, I was one of like twenty black kids
Speaker 1: and kids of color in my graduating class. And while
Speaker 1: I had an amazing high school experience, I say all
Speaker 1: that not to then tell a sob story about my
Speaker 1: high school experience. Thankfully, I had really amazing teachers. I
Speaker 1: did have incidents of race that I have written about racism,
Speaker 1: that I have written about being called the N word
Speaker 1: in my eleventh grade honors English class and subsequently cursing
Speaker 1: that young man out and him being shunned for the
Speaker 1: rest of the year, you know, good times. But aside
Speaker 1: from that, I had a remarkable experience. And why was that.
Speaker 1: It was largely due to the amazing teachers in my
Speaker 1: school who never made me feel other who encourage my
Speaker 1: pursuits and engaged me in you know, debates and questions
Speaker 1: about our society and culture and racism. And I never
Speaker 1: felt like I was marginalized in any type of way.
Speaker 1: And that's what good teachers and a good school is
Speaker 1: supposed to do. And I say this as I'm reflecting
Speaker 1: on the experience of being honored by my high school
Speaker 1: and thinking about what Ron de Santis and Greg Abbott
Speaker 1: are doing to young people in their states, to young
Speaker 1: black and brown people, to young queer people to young
Speaker 1: people who live at the intersections, and how they are
Speaker 1: creating a climate and an experience that is devastating to
Speaker 1: their development, that is going to be devastating to their psyche,
Speaker 1: to their sense of self, and to their ability to
Speaker 1: want to contribute to this society, to want to show
Speaker 1: up in their full selves and be able to make
Speaker 1: their stamp and make a difference, because right now they
Speaker 1: are living in states where they are being stomped out.
Speaker 1: Right where legislation at the end of the week that
Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis passed last week that would allow trans children
Speaker 1: to be taken from their loving homes, do we understand
Speaker 1: and the history of stripping people from marginalized communities of
Speaker 1: their families, of their children. I mean, this is something
Speaker 1: that America was born on, from the indigenous tribes of
Speaker 1: this nation to the enslaved black people that were forced
Speaker 1: to come here, right, So, it is nothing new. It
Speaker 1: has always been a tool of the oppressor to break
Speaker 1: apart families, right because families are supposed to be our
Speaker 1: foundation and the place that we draw our strength from.
Speaker 1: So in order to weaken the queer community, in order
Speaker 1: to disempower and to erase us, their desire is to
Speaker 1: strip families that are accepting of their children, that are
Speaker 1: loving of their children, of their parental rights. Can you
Speaker 1: think about anything more heinous to do in the twenty
Speaker 1: first century after centuries of what we have seen and
Speaker 1: what we have learned from the abusive practices, And frankly,
Speaker 1: you know, the Trump administration did that right with undocumented
Speaker 1: people trying to find safe haven in the United States.
Speaker 1: It is always, always been a tool of the oppressor.
Speaker 1: And I bring that up to say that our children,
Speaker 1: whether or not you birth children, adopt children, foster children,
Speaker 1: teach children, care for them in any type of way,
Speaker 1: are our collective responsibility, right, They are our collective responsibility.
Speaker 1: If we want to see a society that is accepting,
Speaker 1: that is safe, that is progressive, right, where laws are
Speaker 1: created that are about adding people to the table, not
Speaker 1: separating them, then we have to invest in our young people.
Speaker 1: We have to give them safe space and safe harbor
Speaker 1: to grow their voices right so that they can lift
Speaker 1: them for progress. And so when you see these heinous
Speaker 1: acts that are happening across the country, I implore you,
Speaker 1: I implore you to find your local p flag organizations,
Speaker 1: parents and friends of lesbians and gays to go to
Speaker 1: Glisten's website. Right to go to Family Equality, an organization
Speaker 1: that I have worked with over the last two years
Speaker 1: that is about empowering queer families. Please consider donations, consider volunteering,
Speaker 1: Consider calling the offices of these heinous legislators to tell
Speaker 1: them what they are doing to our society. It is
Speaker 1: important that we all in this moment lift our voices
Speaker 1: to protect all kids. Coming up next, my conversation with
Speaker 1: our good goodness friend, our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel. Folks.
Speaker 1: I am as always very excited when we get to
Speaker 1: chat with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel. But
Speaker 1: more importantly, he's an award winner, because doctor Jonathan Metzel
Speaker 1: was awarded the Carlson Award from wild Cornell Medicine Department
Speaker 1: of Psychiatry in recognition of his important contributions to the
Speaker 1: history of psychiatry. So thank you award winner for making
Speaker 1: the time for us a little for us little people
Speaker 1: over at wok app.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll squeeze you guys in no, I it was.
Speaker 2: It was lovely. Actually, it's nice when you get awards
Speaker 2: like this that aren't like the Oh my god, big
Speaker 2: name award that everybody's heard of it. Awards like this
Speaker 2: are nice because they're often This is an annual award
Speaker 2: given by in memory of a colleague, and they do
Speaker 2: it at New York Hospital, and so it was just
Speaker 2: nic It's nice to go. I got to give a
Speaker 2: big talk. The department came, they took me to this
Speaker 2: lovely lunch. I got this nice plaque. But it was
Speaker 2: also nice just to well first be recognized. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's some incredible people who won this award, but also
Speaker 2: to be able to kind of speak to somebody's memory,
Speaker 2: it's such a nice way to keep traditional alive. So
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, it's wonderful to see. And we can't think of
Speaker 1: a better person to be honored than you, Jonathan. You know,
Speaker 1: there's just I'm so disgusted these days. I mean, people
Speaker 1: know that I'm disgusted all the time, but I will
Speaker 1: tell you that I'm still kind of reeling from CNN's
Speaker 1: desire to continue to mainstream wide supremacy and anti semitism
Speaker 1: on their network, to continue the president. Chris Lickt just
Speaker 1: came out again because their ratings were not through the
Speaker 1: roof for Donald Trump, and you know, and they have
Speaker 1: faced a ton, a ton of backlash, so he's on
Speaker 1: the defensive saying that we need to show both sides
Speaker 1: of every issue. And Medie Hassan, who has a show
Speaker 1: on MSNBC and has been on this show and others,
Speaker 1: tweeted and said, really, we need to show the both
Speaker 1: sides of every issue. So climate deniers and election deniers
Speaker 1: and racism and injustice in this country, so everyone deserves
Speaker 1: both sides. And he said when, so, when does it end?
Speaker 1: And I wanted to get your thoughts on how media
Speaker 1: is just mainstreaming white supremacy, mainstreaming hatred in a way
Speaker 1: that I don't think it's ever done on this level.
Speaker 1: Because of the amount of technology, streaming, social media platforms
Speaker 1: and all of these things that allow you to access
Speaker 1: so many people so quickly.
Speaker 2: It's obviously not a surprise to anyone that media in
Speaker 2: this environment where so many media companies are going out
Speaker 2: of business. I mean, Vice just went under. I actually
Speaker 2: had a piece that was coming out in Vice. I
Speaker 2: did an interview with them about guns, and it didn't
Speaker 2: come out because the company is going under. And right
Speaker 2: is it what BuzzFeed? You name it? All these companies
Speaker 2: are firing, people are going under It's a horrible environment
Speaker 2: right now. Forgetting just the ethics for one second, which
Speaker 2: of course it's all about ethics, but companies are driven
Speaker 2: by revenue and click and views, which leads to advertisers.
Speaker 2: And in our world, we live in algorithms where conflict
Speaker 2: drives revenue, right, And so I guess that's the question
Speaker 2: is like where does that leave us? So I guess
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that CNN has taking this turn, right.
Speaker 2: We knew it when when he was hired. That basically
Speaker 2: they're an entertainment company, and the entertainment company they need viewers, right,
Speaker 2: just like Twitter needs followers and et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. They're just they're trying to make money. They're
Speaker 2: not people any more than bud Light is a person.
Speaker 2: And so you know, it really is true.
Speaker 1: The Supreme Court say soon, but it is a person.
Speaker 2: So these these things are all just existing in this
Speaker 2: marketplace that is really cutthroat. And where the the you know,
Speaker 2: the the terrain right now is the more conflict you have.
Speaker 2: You know, Uh, politicians can never pass legislation in the world,
Speaker 2: but if they stand outside of Congress, and say racist
Speaker 2: stuff or get in fight with each other and it
Speaker 2: goes viral. That's what drives revenue. So our whole system
Speaker 2: is monetized right now, not to give one side what
Speaker 2: it agrees with, but to tweak one side then tweet
Speaker 2: the other side. That's just the world. That's what entertainment.
Speaker 2: That's how entertainment is mon sized. I wish we had
Speaker 2: different algorithms. I truly wish we had different algorithms. But
Speaker 2: I guess for me, the question is what do we
Speaker 2: do as liberals, Like what's our response? Because I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was again. I mean, I think what CNA did
Speaker 2: was horrible. They legitimized and platformed, and they're gonna, I'm sure,
Speaker 2: do it again. But the question is, like, you see
Speaker 2: all these people now boycotting CNN and a lot of
Speaker 2: people are boycotting Twitter obviously, And that's the question I
Speaker 2: want to ask you, Danielle, is boycotting the right response?
Speaker 2: Right now? Is boycotting the right response? Or are we
Speaker 2: deplatforming ourselves? I mean, that's really, honestly what I've run
Speaker 2: through my mind all the time. Because they're not enough
Speaker 2: people on liberal Twitter to sway elections that they are
Speaker 2: not enough liberals to make a difference. If we stop
Speaker 2: watching CNN, we're just going to hand it over and
Speaker 2: make it another Fox News, and Fox News is whatever.
Speaker 2: So I just I'm worried about the response of boycotting.
Speaker 2: It works sometimes, but if that's always our response, I
Speaker 2: just feel like we're lessening our voice as opposed to
Speaker 2: I don't know is everybody's choice, but what if every
Speaker 2: liberal person got a blue check and blasted on Twitter
Speaker 2: and fought back on it. I just feel like we've
Speaker 2: given over Twitter to these people.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that boycotts are important.
Speaker 1: I think that we have seen how boycotts have worked
Speaker 1: throughout history to move this country to a more progressive place.
Speaker 1: You can look at the Montgomery bus boycott, and you
Speaker 1: can look at, you know, the airing out of Alec,
Speaker 1: the company that the organization, I'll say that created all
Speaker 1: of the anti homophobic, anti black legislation that we've seen,
Speaker 1: and people being able to be informed about what companies
Speaker 1: they are shopping with, what companies they are spending their
Speaker 1: money with, and who is taking their money by day
Speaker 1: and then voting against their rights at night.
Speaker 2: And so I think, let me let me ask you,
Speaker 2: because I'm not against boycotts at all. I'm for sure,
Speaker 2: I completely respect the history of boycott's. I think they're
Speaker 2: important tools, I think, but is the Montgomery boycott the
Speaker 2: same as people boycotting CNN, for example, or not engaging Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's not at all the same thing. But here's it,
Speaker 1: because I'm one of the people that have actually been
Speaker 1: calling for people to boycott CNN because I don't think
Speaker 1: that See I think that CNN, by virtue of the
Speaker 1: people that they are putting on air, are delegitimizing themselves.
Speaker 1: That they were once seen as the stalwart of cable news,
Speaker 1: and you have seen that erosion of that network since
Speaker 1: the Trump era in a very major way. They are
Speaker 1: you know, just recently what they gave Caitlyn Collins, the
Speaker 1: woman who interviewed Donald Trump the plum spot at nine PM,
Speaker 1: come to find out, which I did not know until recently.
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Collins got her start at The Daily Caller and
Speaker 1: was the entertainment reporter and has has espoused anti Semitism,
Speaker 1: has espoused racial bias, has espoused and written about all
Speaker 1: of these things. And now by virtue of the idea
Speaker 1: that CNN is still this mainstream, middle of the bar
Speaker 1: place is able to you know, whitewash herself right and
Speaker 1: her and so now it makes sense as to why
Speaker 1: Donald Trump chose her in the first place as somebody
Speaker 1: to sit down with. And so my feeling is, you
Speaker 1: do not have to continue to give eyes, eyeballs and
Speaker 1: Nielsen ratings to a network that is no longer a
Speaker 1: trusted entity and form of journalism. And I think that
Speaker 1: if CNN is out there deciding that they are no
Speaker 1: longer interested in expanding their base of people who want
Speaker 1: real news and instead want to chase Fox News, then
Speaker 1: why would we continue as viewers to reward them? Right Like,
Speaker 1: I think that at some at some point in time,
Speaker 1: the people of this country, with their dollars and their voice,
Speaker 1: need to say that we're not going to be along.
Speaker 1: We're not going along on this ride with you right
Speaker 1: to the bottom. And I think in the same way
Speaker 1: for Twitter, I still have not left Twitter because I
Speaker 1: do still believe that Twitter is a space for you
Speaker 1: to get information quickly, is a space for you to
Speaker 1: be able to share your thoughts, and so until it
Speaker 1: absolutely come busts wholeheartedly, I'll be I'll be like you,
Speaker 1: and I'll be one of the people that continue to
Speaker 1: hang on because all of the other social media platforms
Speaker 1: that have bubbled up don't are still in beta version
Speaker 1: right and don't have the same a reach right and
Speaker 1: power that a Twitter does at this time. And so
Speaker 1: I but I don't like to answer the larger question.
Speaker 1: I don't think that we are deplatforming ourselves. I think
Speaker 1: that people are showing the power that they have. And
Speaker 1: if CNN wants to continue in business and not you know,
Speaker 1: troll behind a Newsmax. In their ratings, which they did
Speaker 1: two days after they had Donald Trump on, they came
Speaker 1: in at three hundred and thirty five thousand viewers behind Newsmax,
Speaker 1: CNN was that if you want to continue with the
Speaker 1: far so pretending to be mainstream news when you're leaning
Speaker 1: right wing, then you're going to see those numbers.
Speaker 2: No, I don't do And again, like I'm as you know,
Speaker 2: I'm on CNN every so often, and so I don't
Speaker 2: certainly like what's happening. And I know people at CNN
Speaker 2: who are not happy and people who have les seen it.
Speaker 2: A lot of good people have lest CNN. It's great
Speaker 2: for MSNBC, right you know, Anna Carrera and all these
Speaker 2: amazing people are going over to MSNBC. I guess my concern,
Speaker 2: And I'll also say, like, I was called out, I
Speaker 2: think fairly by one of our listeners on this show
Speaker 2: because I think I made a bad joke about mated on,
Speaker 2: and I apologize. I'm sure it was I wasn't trying
Speaker 2: to be offensive, and I have total respect for people
Speaker 2: who were on mastered On. I'm on the waiting list
Speaker 2: for Blue Sky. I tried masked it on and I
Speaker 2: just couldn't, honestly. I just couldn't figure it out, honestly.
Speaker 2: But I guess for me, my concern is that the
Speaker 2: lead up to I mean, think about how important social
Speaker 2: media was to Biden's election in twenty twenty, like, because
Speaker 2: I was part of the influencer group, one of the
Speaker 2: influencer groups that was doing all the stuff with you know,
Speaker 2: we had we had Mark Ruffalo and all these people
Speaker 2: working with us. We had a massive footpath, a massive turnout,
Speaker 2: and we spoke to ambivalent voters, progressives who weren't sure
Speaker 2: that they were going to vote for vote for Biden.
Speaker 2: All these people, like social media was incredible, incredible, and
Speaker 2: it really helped, especially, you know, when we could target
Speaker 2: swing states, And my concern is just that's being undermined
Speaker 2: in such powerful ways right now. Like I think there's
Speaker 2: a very concerted effort by the Elon Musks of the
Speaker 2: world and other people to make sure that liberals don't
Speaker 2: have that kind of sway leading into the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four election. And my concern is just that the Mastodons
Speaker 2: of the world and the blue skies of the world,
Speaker 2: it just becomes like a place to protest. It doesn't
Speaker 2: have a reach, it doesn't have enough reach, and so
Speaker 2: right now Twitter is the place with reach. And I'm
Speaker 2: just totally torn because of course I don't want to
Speaker 2: give my money to Elon Musk. And it also does
Speaker 2: concern me that like all these right wingers have this
Speaker 2: blue check which means that their tweets are boosted, can
Speaker 2: tweet longer tweets and put up videos, and everybody like
Speaker 2: me on my side is just sending these short tweets
Speaker 2: that don't go and go away where except to my
Speaker 2: friends and so and so. I just I don't know
Speaker 2: what to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is you can pay in the
Speaker 1: same way that they're paying to have their voices heard.
Speaker 1: But I think that also, look, I don't think the
Speaker 1: blue check now that we know that it can be bought,
Speaker 1: has the same cachet. I think that, of course, we
Speaker 1: continue to grow our numbers as you go on TV
Speaker 1: and do other things. But I think at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, people are going to diversify where they
Speaker 1: get the information and they're going to continue to do so. Right,
Speaker 1: the amount of people that use TikTok, for instance, as
Speaker 1: a way to get their news as opposed to actually
Speaker 1: watching the news or going on Twitter, because many people
Speaker 1: left Twitter even before because it became a swamp, right,
Speaker 1: And this is yeah, and this is what happens with
Speaker 1: these social media platforms. Like people left Facebook why because
Speaker 1: Facebook became a site for older people, but it was
Speaker 1: NonStop ads, right, So you were no longer even seeing
Speaker 1: the people are being able to engage with family and
Speaker 1: friends in the way that you were. You're just engaging
Speaker 1: with corporate sponsors, right. And so I think that with
Speaker 1: every every few years, and not even every few years,
Speaker 1: every every couple of you know, short years, there is
Speaker 1: going to be another explosion of social media platforms that
Speaker 1: try and refine what it is that is going wrong
Speaker 1: on these other places, and that's how people will move.
Speaker 1: I think that it is about figuring out how to
Speaker 1: get your message out in a multitude of ways, giving
Speaker 1: all the opportunities that people like you and I with
Speaker 1: varied platforms have the ability to do.
Speaker 2: No, I think that's right. I just think people need
Speaker 2: guidance about it right now, and again if Maston is
Speaker 2: the way to do that. But I mean, the important
Speaker 2: thing about something like Twitter is that you're not just
Speaker 2: speaking to your friends or your bubble, right, it actually
Speaker 2: potentially has reached well beyond people who agree with you, right,
Speaker 2: you can agree, you can engage people who disagree with you,
Speaker 2: and so I think that really that's kind of the
Speaker 2: that's kind of what's important when you're trying to think
Speaker 2: about social media and elections. For example, Like right now,
Speaker 2: I feel fine. I just again my worry is just
Speaker 2: like what's going to be the platform there is Probably
Speaker 2: the joke is slightly on us for like calling out
Speaker 2: Elon Musk when he wasn't going to buy Twitter, like
Speaker 2: probably we should have just let him slick away. But
Speaker 2: but but but but I think that what's the infrastructure
Speaker 2: going to be for that kind of mobilization. And maybe
Speaker 2: it is social media, maybe it's not social media, but
Speaker 2: but I just think I just think there's a there's
Speaker 2: a question of reach right now. That is, like, obviously
Speaker 2: there's a lot of data right now that the demographics
Speaker 2: are changing of Twitter. Twitter is a very powerful tool
Speaker 2: for Republicans right now. Twitter as a massive increase in
Speaker 2: people in Republicans who feel like it meets their needs.
Speaker 2: So Twitter is going to be very effective tool, even
Speaker 2: more than it was in twenty twenty for Republicans, just
Speaker 2: given everything that's happening. And so what's the counter to that?
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't know the answer. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll say that's what I'm asking. I again, wasn't trying
Speaker 2: to poke fund at Macedon. I know everybody's people are
Speaker 2: trying that, But I just think, you know, we have
Speaker 2: an infrastructure issue that we need to address.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that also people need to get
Speaker 1: off of their screens and get out into their communities.
Speaker 1: I think that all Another part of that is, you know,
Speaker 1: there is going to be a return to doing the
Speaker 1: good old fashioned work of actually meeting with the people
Speaker 1: in your community, knocking on those doors, and you know,
Speaker 1: and engaging in real ways. And I think that as
Speaker 1: we're going to see, you know, the twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: election is going to be the first election that we
Speaker 1: have chat GPT right where that is. That is also
Speaker 1: on one hand, oh how exciting look at this new
Speaker 1: technology that makes things easier, and oh, oh my god,
Speaker 1: how devastating to humanity this technology that makes everything easier.
Speaker 1: It makes it easier to spread lies, makes it easier
Speaker 1: to doctor videos, makes it easier to do a whole
Speaker 1: lot of things, uh that are going to be dangerous
Speaker 1: right moving on in the future. And so I think
Speaker 1: that people need to make decisions that align with their
Speaker 1: with their values, and if boycotting CNN, for instance, and
Speaker 1: putting your eyeballs towards a PVS or an MSNBC, or
Speaker 1: you know, going on and deciding, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna read. I'm just gonna go like, you know, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read articles instead of you know, listening
Speaker 1: to the same stories regurgitated or actually I'm going to
Speaker 1: join you know, my local organizers and you know, and
Speaker 1: connect with the real people so that I'm not afraid
Speaker 1: of my neighbor down the street. I think that those
Speaker 1: are actually important things that we need to be doing.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be looking at one place that none of
Speaker 1: us own right to be the life saver of democracy,
Speaker 1: because that ain't it right. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: what we have seen over the last several years.
Speaker 2: Remember it was the Obama reelection when he beat Romney,
Speaker 2: and it turned out afterwards that Obama and the Democrats
Speaker 2: had this technology that the Republicans didn't even really have,
Speaker 2: which was ways to reach voters. They had some kind
Speaker 2: of technology where they could identify in the voter rules
Speaker 2: people who hadn't voted in the past two elections. But
Speaker 2: still they had some kind of technology where they figured out, like,
Speaker 2: here's a way to reach people that swung a lot
Speaker 2: of swing states. It was, of course about Obama and
Speaker 2: Romney was not a great candidate, etc. But the Democrats
Speaker 2: had like outthought everybody. Trump in twenty sixteen had some
Speaker 2: kind of technological stuff. I think about kind of secret
Speaker 2: Russian spy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like that wasn't that just putin what.
Speaker 2: Microwaves or something like that. And I do think there's
Speaker 2: a story that is going to obviously be told about
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four election and I'm curious what it is.
Speaker 2: I know, like people are thinking about it, so I
Speaker 2: just I'm just curious to see what it is. But
Speaker 2: I guess you're saying it's not going to be Twitter
Speaker 2: for us. But again, I I just do I just
Speaker 2: do think. That's just what I think. Like, even I'm
Speaker 2: still active on Twitter, you're still active on Twitter, and
Speaker 2: the people who are reading our tweets are not the
Speaker 2: same people who used to be reading our tweets, and
Speaker 2: so kind I'm just thinking, like, what what's what does
Speaker 2: that mean? What does that mean going forward?
Speaker 1: We will we shall see, but we will leave it
Speaker 1: there today. Friends, doctor Jonathan Mepzel, congratulations on all of
Speaker 1: your recognition UH and the award that you received for
Speaker 1: your work. We appreciate you and your analysis that you
Speaker 1: bring to us each and every week.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: That is it for me today, Dear friends on Woke
Speaker 1: af as always, Power to the people and to all
Speaker 1: the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.