WEBVTT - Roses for Housewives with Leah McSweeney 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:10.720 I Suck At Dating with Haven Radio Podcast. Hello and 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.280 welcome to another episode of Help I Suck At Dating. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.560 I'm Jared Haven, joined as always by Dean Englert, and 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:22.080 today we are joined by fashion designer and current Real 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:28.000 Housewife of New York City. It is Leah McSweeney. Hi Leah, Hi, Jared, 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.880 Hi Deen? Hi? How are you? I gotta tell you, guys, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:37.440 I didn't get into Bachelor Bachelorette shows until this year, 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.239 and now I'm so obsessed it's insane. Are you going 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:45.040 back and watching old seasons? I'm yeah, of course, because 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.320 I just started watching this year, So now I'm watching 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.720 all the old seasons and I honestly became super obsessed 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.959 with with your story, Jared, and like how you're actually 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.560 knew that you were the one, Like I can't believe 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.440 that it had a happy ending. I'm like, I believe 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.960 in love now and like women's into you know, like, 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.520 don't ever call us like bitches because we know what 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.880 we want and we know when she is like supposed 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:13.679 to happen. Yeah, I obviously couldn't agree more so, Uh, 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.880 I think Eastern do we even need an intro? I 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.840 think hopefully that that should all be on the podcast 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.320 that was so good. All right, great, so we're we're 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:26.399 we're recording right here. Welcome to help I suck a dating? Uh. 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.920 Piper James back co hosting Dean myself, and we have 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.800 an incredible guest from the Real Housewives of New York City. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:39.479 We have Leah McSweeney or Lee McSweeney. How are you, Leah? 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.840 It's les also know it's fine. I'm also fanning out 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.760 that Piper's here. Oh my god, I'm fanning out that 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:52.960 you're here exiting. Um, hey, guys, I'm I'm also here too, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.200 just in case anyone forgot I'm here. I'm here too. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.920 Do you ever get like I want to? I want 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.120 to explain why misspronounced your first name because I know 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.800 it's Leah. And do you ever have like I'm sure 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.560 people can relate when you're a little nervous and you 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.360 go to say something and you know how to pronounce it, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.440 but you second guess yourself and so you go with 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.799 option B even though you know it's wrong, but you're 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.960 just like, you just make a wrong decision anyway, because 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.200 I'm I'm literally reading it and it's Leah McSweeney, and 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:26.720 I go I what I do is I get nervous 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.040 when I have to introduce to people that I know 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.520 and like I know their names, but I'm thinking I'm 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.840 gonna get up somehow. So I'm just like, here, we 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:38.000 meet each other, and I don't like introduce them properly. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:43.720 It's really stupid. Uh well, Leah, thank you so much 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.480 for joining us and help I start at dating. As 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:49.120 everybody was listening, you've recently become a Bachelor fan, which 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.760 is awesome. So what what made you get into Bachelor? 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.880 What was the first season. I don't I'm trying to 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.120 think what the first one that I watched where I 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:59.640 was like, oh my god, I can't believe I haven't 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.120 been watching this all along. So I think it was 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.720 the most recent was Clayton, and the one before that 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.959 was Matt James. I didn't. I haven't seen that James. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:10.480 So I think what I did is I watched an 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.760 old one. I think I might have watched the one 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.840 with like I want to I can't remember names that well. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:19.600 It might have been Katie or like, okay, yeah Katie, Yeah, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.959 you know Katie. She she was she was maybe like 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:26.919 two years ago or three years ago or something like that. Right, Yeah, 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.200 you're right. Yeah, that's right. So you're pretty recent, which 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:33.160 is pretty good exactly. So then I just started catching 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.480 up and then Bachelor and Parrot Dice, like I'm like, wow, 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.840 I'm so invested that it's like crazy. Um, it's funny 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.280 because Kaylin is incredibly obsessed with Real Housewives. I don't 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:44.560 know if she's seen the New York when I'm sure 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.320 she has. She's in my understanding she's seen them all, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.880 uh and all. Honestly, she should probably be here right now. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.320 With said that way, you could pick your brain a 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.440 little bit. But why did you even want to pick 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.320 up watching Bachelor? You were just like bored one day 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.920 and turned it on or what? Yeah, Like I don't 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.680 I don't even know. Like it was a divine intervention, 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:07.400 like God was like you must watch the show. It 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.920 was like something deep in my soul was like trying 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.800 to show out, like I just had no more shows 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.400 to watch. And then I was just so happy. I 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.280 was so happy that I found something that was just 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.600 so awesome and dramatic and just like wow, yeah, just 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.520 really intense. Do you watch reality TV? Yeah? I do, 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.760 that's the thing. I do watch reality TV, But I 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.160 never got into it, and I had friends like straight 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.600 dudes and like all different people that were just obsessed, 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.760 like people that I would never think would even watch 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.960 reality TV. Loves it, but I'm like into really like 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.000 really trash trash, like I love like I love that 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:49.000 after lock Up is like one of my favorite yes, 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:55.880 like crackheads, Like it's it's insane, it's insane. Um. But 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.160 but what I love about The Bachelor and the Bachelorette, 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.800 it's just like people are so open and putting themselves 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.000 out there, and it's like I can't even imagine. Like 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.280 I was just watching another season now, I'm trying to 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.640 remember the girl's name. I just started watching it, and 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.800 I'm like, oh my god, if I owe her name 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.760 is Andy. And oh, so you're getting introduced to our 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:20.320 good friend Nick Vile. Yeah, oh my god, wait Nick 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:27.080 hold on, isn't Pilot Pete also in that one? Or 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.479 doing him in there? He comes later on? Yeah, he's 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:34.560 like years down the road, confusing? Okay, so Nick, Yeah, 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.920 But like the thing is, I mean I think about myself, like, 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:39.880 oh my god, what if I was a bachelorette. I'm 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.360 so jaded with dating, Like every guy that came by 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.880 I would be like nope, like he's a dickhead, Like 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:52.720 people are so open and trusting. Well yeah, to show, yeah, 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.000 you gotta have something like throw yourself out there and 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.719 be like because if yeah, as Piper said, if you don't, 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:00.960 then you're you're going to be eliminated, you know what 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.119 I mean? Because the Bachelor of the Bachelor, it doesn't 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.039 have time for a production, doesn't have time for that. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.279 It's like, if you don't open up, then you're just 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.240 gonna be like, Okay, well this isn't gonna work out 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.920 for us. Where you could open up like Clayton and 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.159 fall in love with three women, I mean, why not. 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.200 He's dating thirty to start off with three, you know, honestly, 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:20.960 so he only fell in love with what is that 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:25.400 ten percent of the women? That's not so bad? So bad? Yeah, 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.760 I gotta ask. So, as a reality TV fan, how 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.760 did you stumble into being on Real Housewives of New 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:37.400 York Right? Yes? So I um. I was actually casted 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.320 through a woman who has already been on the show, 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:44.120 Bethany Frankel. She followed me on Instagram, so I was 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.200 somehow on her radar and at the end of the 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.120 season they always asked the women, like, give us names 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.680 of people you know, and even though we didn't personally 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:56.520 know each other, she just randomly gave them my name. Yeah. 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.479 I was like a really weird wild card for casting 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.840 because I was is like a lot younger than all 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.440 the women, like by like twenty to thirty years younger 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.919 than all of them. Not from the Upper East like 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.320 not do not hang out on the Upper East Side, 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:14.000 not really my vibe, just like totally different. I really 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.040 didn't think that I was gonna end up on it. 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.240 I had no idea like how it was gonna work either. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:19.960 Once I got cast I'm like, how am I gonna 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:24.960 do this? You obviously figured it out pretty well, pretty easily. 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.040 I figured it out. Yeah, I mean that's just life, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.720 you know what I mean. I feel like anytime someone 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.720 gets because it is getting a new job, you know, 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.880 being casted on the show, and I feel like so 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.640 many people like whenever they apply for jobs, I've done 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.240 it myself. And then you know, you really like you 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.800 don't fake your resume, but you really build it up, 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.200 you know what I mean. And then like you get 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.160 the job and you're like, oh, what do I do now? 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:51.880 And then you just figure it out. Yeah, that's so true. Um, 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.240 even in my casting, like when they were doing my 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:58.840 tape or whatever, I said I was anti socialite, and 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.720 I was like, once I that I'm antisocialite, I'm like, oh, 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.960 they're never gonna pick me, likethesis. But that's because I 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.200 went to school on the Upperast Side and like was 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.960 from like downtown, and I just like I didn't like 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:15.120 that like scene, you know, So I basically was going 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:19.360 back into my like early adolescence all over again, like 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.239 at age thirty seven or however old. I was thirty 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:34.840 eight when I did it. Lee. I see here in 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.680 my notes too that you stayed sober the whole time 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.400 on the show, which I'm sure you were an anomaly 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.679 in that case. I you know, I haven't seen much 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:43.280 of the Real House Lives show, but it seems like 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.080 they're always like out of you, Like you're saying, like 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.120 socialite socializing and drinking and stuff. Was that like a 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.720 weird thing for you two? Not weird, but like was 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.720 it challenging? I guess so, like I actually had I 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.240 hadn't like drank in like nine years. I was sober 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.240 and then before I even knew that I was going 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.120 to be on the know, I started drinking because like 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.080 it had been so long, and I was like, I 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:05.720 think I can, like you know, I'm in a different 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.320 place in my life. And then it was like boom, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.000 You're gonna be on the show. And I was like, oh, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.520 better stop because I know how I am when I 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.120 get drunk, you know. But I didn't stop. So for 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.360 the first season I drank, and then the second season 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.000 I didn't drink, and I still haven't had a drink, 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.920 thank god. But the second season was it hard to 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.960 not drink? You don't. I think I had so much 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.880 like reference from not drinking for almost a decade that 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.439 it was kind of easy for me to get back, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.320 you know, like getting back on a bike kind of thing, luckily, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.280 because it's obviously very hard to stop drinking. Well, yeah, definitely. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.800 In your book Chaos there you talk about getting sober, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:43.880 and I think for a lot of people out there, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:47.520 when getting sober, they can't go back because their addiction 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.280 is so bad where it's like I if I have 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.000 a sip of a drink, it's all going downhill. So 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.439 when you started drinking again and then you were able 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:01.360 to stop again, was that stopping the second time, or 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:02.679 saying like I'm not gonna have a drink, And was 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.800 that more difficult than the first time or No, it 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.959 was a totally different experience because I think the first time, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:14.240 I was like in such a desperate, like pressed, dark place, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.160 and it really came from like I actually had a 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.080 death premonition and that's like when I stopped drinking. And 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.439 then this second time around, it was more like, Okay, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.839 I'm about to be a public figure. I'm about to 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.720 like you know, there's a there's a pandemic. Um, I'm 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.120 stuck in a house with like my ex and my 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.240 kid and my sister and her kid, and I can't 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.360 stop drinking, like I actually have to. I didn't really 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.480 want to stop, but I was like I'm making a 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.440 good decision by stopping and luckily, but it was all 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:46.760 but my drinking had gotten bad. Like it was like 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.160 I was drinking and like once I drink, I want 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.880 to like push up my nose and like that was happening, 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.520 and I mean that's just what happens, you know, And 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.520 like I was like I can't go back to that. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.640 That's what I was doing in my past life, Like 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:01.400 I can't and go do that again, Like I don't 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.160 want to be like a story in the New York Post, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.280 you know what I mean, Like I go there in 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.920 my head like god forbid, Like you think you're like 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.800 doing a little having a little party favor and it's 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.400 spent at all. I mean, I don't know, it's just 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.240 like it was just it was it was gonna get 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.520 dark and ugly. So I was like, I just gotta stop. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:21.880 It's interesting to consider because we you know, when we're 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.600 on when we're filming The Bachelor, any of the Bachelor's shows, 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.720 it's not like we're at our uh you know, in 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.600 our town, at our house with our friends, um, filming stuff. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.520 You're just like kind of like secluded and you don't 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.000 really have access to anything. Uh. And it got to 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.480 the point where, by my very last season of Bachelor 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.240 that I record that we filmed, I didn't drink it 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.440 all either, because I was sick of like blacking out 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.960 and then watching myself on TV not having a single 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.280 clue what I was gonna say or do. Um. But 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.040 I can't imagine what it was, what it must have 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.000 been like to like be like be like, I can't 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.959 imagine if we had a film career, like following, um 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.400 me around in Los Angeles with my friends, because I 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.840 feel like that's when it's not like bad decisions per se. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:05.040 It's it's just you're a lot more like loose decisions mostly, 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.160 you know, you're a lot more comfortable, and so yeah, 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.880 you make bad decisions. Um, although like you know, obviously 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.880 Batchler's got their special formula where their isolation is kind 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.640 of what drives people crazy and makes them do crazy things. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.960 So there's like pick your poison sort of thing. But 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.800 you know, it's super interesting to hear, especially you've had 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.440 both sides of it. You said season one you drank 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.120 and then season two you hadn't, So is there I 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.240 mean obviously you I would say you probably would prefer 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.319 that not drinking because you're way more control, right, Like 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.120 that's that's gotta be. I mean, look, I'm actually like 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:38.160 a really fun like drunk, like I I like really 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.120 like I am. I mean, I'm not gonna lie like 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.079 it's fun until it's not, you know. So, like I 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.320 think people really enjoyed watching me like while out, but 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.480 like I can't do that just because the audience maybe 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.920 thinks that's more entertaining because like I have a life 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.679 and a child and things like that. So you know, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.640 I think I think I'm fun like also without booze, 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.640 Like I didn't drink for many years and it never 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.080 stopped me from doing anything. If anything, I was able 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:09.199 to do so much more, you know, like actually like 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.200 kind of oh my god, there was that one guy 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.640 on The Bachelor in Paradise who was like so drunk 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.520 and he got like asked to leave. That was really bad. Sorry, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:21.000 I keep Oh my god, that was hard to watch. Yeah, 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.320 guy's a loser. Um, I gotta ask is because you 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.000 you have brought it up and I think I remember 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.560 hearing you mentioned that you, um are not in a 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:32.120 relationship with your fats anymore. Would you ever consider going 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.640 on the Bachelor? Um? Well, like I said, I think 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.440 I'm just so like jaded. I don't think that I 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.800 could ever, Like I don't know if I could really trust. Like, 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.440 I mean, everybody's hot on the show, so like that 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.520 part is awesome because they're already picking hot dudes, So 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.200 that part would be great. You know, I don't have 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.840 to like shift through you know, a bunch of like 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.920 ugly dudes. But like I would just not like I'm 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.000 just I mean, I stuck at dating. That's why I'm 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:04.520 on this podcast. I suck at it, Like I'm not 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.200 good at it. My daughter had me like, my daughter 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.400 makes so much fun of me. She she actually had 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.640 me call this one guy who I matched on Hinge with. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:14.760 She's like, you know, I'm like, Okay, I have to 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:15.880 go talk to him. I'm going to go in the 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:17.800 other room. She's like, no, stay here and put him 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.360 on speaker because I want to hear everything. You're in 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.840 the middle of the get my daughter's savage. In the 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.160 middle of the conversation, She's looking at me, going, mom, 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.680 there's no connection. Hang up on him. This guy is 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.520 a dork, you know. And I'm like, no, maybe I 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.160 should like go to lunch with him. She's like, why 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.560 he's boring. He didn't make you laugh. There's no connection. 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.680 It's total with the time. I mean, maybe I shouldn't 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.360 be listening to my fifteen year old. I don't know. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.800 It sounds like you need to go on Paradise. Maybe 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.920 they make a non pre bachelor exception for you, because 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:48.960 at least you had options in that scenario, so you 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.120 can mesh with different personalities and everyone's so hot, so 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.960 but I wouldn't like that because there's too much competition. Yeah, 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.840 it's like a that's like my worst nightmare when I 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.120 watched people cry and Tammy was crying and all these 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.840 people are crying and everyone's feelings are getting hurt, and 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:12.440 like people are left and right like bringing each other's hearts. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.240 I'm like, oh my god, I could not deal with 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:27.760 bat room paradise. It sounds like you and Rob's have 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.200 a good relationship. Would you ever consider getting back with him? 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:37.280 The hell no, weed for a reason exactly. And we 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:41.360 have a good relationship because we're not romantically involved. Because 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:45.920 once you're romantically involved with each other, there's expectations, there's this, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.720 there's that, it's very complicated. Like, I don't have any 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.640 expectations Rob, He's not my man, he's my friend, he's 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.840 my family. That's fair. So is that was that what 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.480 your secret tip would be to anyone that's going through breakup? 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.280 To remove I mean obviously, like if you and be 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.120 mature enough about it, removed the romantic component about it, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:04.480 and just like do your best to be friends? Is 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.120 that your advice or what would you say to like 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.440 stay in good on good terms with them? If you 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.400 have a kid, Yeah, because you kind of have to 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.680 stay on good terms personally. I don't speak to any 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.680 of my other ex is. I don't have kids with them. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.680 They were all mistakes. Why would I talk to them. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.680 I hate all of them. So yeah, so um no, 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.080 I just I wouldn't even say to stay friends in 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.480 the nex unless you have to. How is it dating 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:33.360 with a child in New York? Um, it's kind of like, 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.680 you know, it's great because on one hand, I'm thirty 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.000 nine about I have a fifteen year old. I don't 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.440 have that that like pressure of like you better find 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.600 someone now, kid, because your clock is running out. So 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.080 I'm blessed, you know, I got knocked that's up at 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.600 age twenty four, thank god. So I don't have to 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.120 be in a relationship, like I have everything I need, 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.560 you know. But at the other at the other end 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.680 of it, it's like I don't really want to like 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.160 be in a relationship because I want to give all 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.840 my time to my daughter. Of course, now she's getting 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.200 older and I'm realizing that and I'm like, damn, she's 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.080 going to be like in college in a few years, 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.880 so I should probably start opening myself up to dating soon. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.679 So I do need to start dating against soon. I 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.040 just don't know where to meet guys. And honestly they're 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:25.800 all pieces of ship. Yeah that yeah, New York dating. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.040 All my friends that are doing it are like, absolutely not. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.280 It's not for me. I always say outsourced because long 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.159 distance is better. You're so right, paper, And it's also like, okay, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:40.560 my age like demographic, like guys like are like dating 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.920 younger than me, right, So what am I gonna like 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.800 fifty year old want like twenty year olds, you know 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:47.760 or whatever? Like, So what do I have to date 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:49.640 like a sixty year old or a seventy year old? 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.280 I personally and I'm attracted to like twenty six year olds, 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.560 That's what I find. So I think I gotta start 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.679 dating and kind of turned into the cougar at some 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:03.280 point soon reversingary to do it. That's certainly realistic, Thank you. 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.240 I think so too. Yeah, um, I want you to. 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.239 Could you give some advice to Jared Si. Jared's got 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.840 a three month old at home, just had her him. 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.520 I'm sorry, Jared not too long ago and you said 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.160 Jared girl is fifteen now, So with with all that perspective, 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.960 can you give Jared any parenting advice. Oh my god, Jared, 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.600 I know it's I know you're probably exhausted, and yes, 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.200 I know you're exhausted and all that good stuff, but dude, 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.360 you have to. This is what I would say to anybody, like, 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.679 you have to. I wish that I had done this, 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.280 Like it's my regret of not like holding onto those 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.439 moments more and like just like basking in them. I 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.119 was so worried about like this or that, or do 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.919 I have the right Diaperginie, and you know this, like 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.480 oh my god, Like she's like is she gonna talk soon? 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.479 Like what's happening? But I just like and I didn't, Like, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.600 I don't know, I don't, I don't. I feel like 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:59.040 I just took those moments in enough and then it 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.240 goes by so quick, Lee, and then that they're gone, 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.960 like they're not babies anymore and they're not toddlers anymore, 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.800 and it's over. It's like super sad kind of No. 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.600 I appreciate that, and I couldn't agree more. I'm trying 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.879 to soak in every moment with him as possible because 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.600 he's just changing so much, even from day to day, 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:20.760 and uh, it's it's wonderful, obviously, but it's also quite 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:25.600 sad to know that it's just gonna be over uh, 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.520 and that it's already getting to that point because I 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.679 love him so much as a baby. Uh. The the 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.920 idea that he's going to grow up to be like 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:38.879 me makes me so sad. I'm like, bro, yeah, so 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.040 I'm like, you're so you You're so much better. Don't 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.280 be like no, like, just stay a baby. You deserve 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.600 so much more. Um, But well, thank you. I appreciate 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.240 a piece of advice. And before you go, I didn't 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.240 want to ask you a question because obviously you're dating 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.760 in New York. You know, you talk about I'm not 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:55.880 saying you're gonna be on the Bachelor, but you know, hey, 0:19:55.920 --> 0:20:01.080 who knows. But I wanted to know if there was 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.840 one celebrity out there that you could go on a 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.320 date with, or like if you were the bachelorette and 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.960 you had your pick, like, who's your celebrity crush that 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:15.040 you'd want to see walk out of the limo? Um? Okay, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:19.400 it would be Okay, it's two guys, but one is married, 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.199 so he'd have to get divorced. Okay, we can make 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:28.080 that happen. Okay, it would be definitely Joe Rogan. Wait, 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:32.720 hold on who Joe Rogan and Eminem? Yeah so yeah, 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:40.359 slim Shady Marshall Mathers, Matt Marshall, Mathers, h Marshall. Wait, 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.399 so do you like Eminem more with the blonde or 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.879 the dark hair? I mean, I would make him go 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:52.639 back to blonde. Yeah, really, you're simply each honey. And 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.639 then Joe Rogan, Yeah, I mean the guy is like 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:59.200 so rich now too, and also he's just he's cool. 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.159 It's how I know he's controversial, but like he's dope, 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.000