1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to America now, Mr garbutsch Off. Tear down this wall. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Either you're with us or you were with the terrorists. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: If you got healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: If you are satisfied with Trump is not the president 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: of the United States, take it to a bank. Together, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: we will make America great again. You'll never sharender. It's 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: what you've been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton, with 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: America now joined the conversation called Buck toll free at 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: nine hundred two, eight to five, sharp mind, strong voice, 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. Welcome to the Freedom Hunt, my friends. Buck 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Sexton with you as always, very much appreciate your time. 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Excited to get a chance to hang out with you today. 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: The battle lines are drawn. We know what's going to 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: happen from here. I think, at least in rawd stroke, 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: this is going to turn into a fight of leaks 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: versus collusion. You see, depending on how you see politics 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: in this country, depending on your political affiliation, your choice 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: in media outlet, you will either be told a lot 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: about the leaks that have been going on during the 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: Trump administration, or told a lot about the collusion. Um, 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk a bit about this, by the way, updates 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: on the various investigations ongoing into quote Russia collusion and 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: leaks of classified information to the press about said alleged 25 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: maybe exists, We don't know, can't tell you, but we're 26 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna talk about it a lot. Collusion, and also get 27 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: into Trump possibly leaving the Paris Agreements and give you 28 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: some details on that, and a whole lot of other 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: stuff coming up today on the show. Yes an updated 30 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: yesterday's Kathy Griffin story that will come at the very end. 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: We'll keep that. We'll keep that short. Not too much 32 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: to say about it, but I didn't think we should 33 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: follow up, and maybe we'll even discuss how the regulations, 34 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: particularly of the Obama era, are crushing to the economy, 35 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: are preposterously onerous, are are just destructive to the to 36 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: the economy, and means money out of your pocket, means 37 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: money that your business should be making that it's not. 38 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: It is a decrease in American prosperity because of regulations, 39 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: because of the government telling introduced stuff. And I've also 40 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: got some thoughts on Venezuela and how you don't hear 41 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: much about Venezuela these days. I wonder why that is 42 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: with our current media. But that's just a preview of 43 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: where we're going today on the show. And of course 44 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: we'll be making all kinds of detours, stops and exciting 45 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: on the fly, uh switches based on well how it 46 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: all goes. Uh. First, let's talk about these investigations. Here's 47 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: what's going on. In case you missed it, House Intelligence 48 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: Panel issues seven subpoenas. According to the Wall Street Journal, 49 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: here in Russia probe and this is a sign that 50 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: it's investigation into alleged Russia meddling in the election is 51 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: ramping up in scope and intensity, according to people familiar 52 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: with the matter. If you go to CNN dot com 53 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: right now, CNN also known as the Russia Investigation News Organization, 54 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: you have comey to testify about Trump confrontations. You have 55 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: House Intelligence Committee issues it's first subpoenas, and you have 56 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: Flynn and Cohen subpoena who what subpoenas? You've got subpoenas, 57 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: I got subpoenas? What subpoenas? Cohen is like subpoenas? But 58 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: then you've also got General Flynn and others. There are 59 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: growing to be providing documents or testifying or both before 60 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: the committee. I think the big media excitement today, at 61 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: least from those who post Trump, which is of the media, 62 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: give or take, it has to do with the upcoming 63 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Comy revelations. Now here's my theory on this. They're saying 64 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: right now that Comy is supposed to testify that Trump 65 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: tried to shut down the Russia investigation at some level. 66 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: That is, that is what they are reporting. But that 67 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: is a report in advance of the facts. What happens 68 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: if Comey's testimony is much more nuanced than that. What 69 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: if the former FBI director gets up and says, well, 70 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: I didn't think that he was specifically telling me to 71 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: end the investigation. He was just expressing in a nonchalant 72 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: way that he hoped that this would all just come 73 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: to an end soon. But it was not a direct order, 74 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: which I think is much more likely to be his testimony, 75 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: although I don't know. But you see, this is a 76 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: perfect example, isn't it. The sources going to the media 77 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: right now telling us that former FBI Director James Comy 78 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: telling us that he will say things about Donald Trump 79 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: in testimony before Congress. Before he has said it creates 80 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: the damage before we know the truth of the matter. 81 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, just because Comy says it doesn't 82 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: make it true. That's a that's an aside. But there 83 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: will be days now of wow, what would it what 84 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: will it mean? Or what would it mean or both? 85 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: If Comey says that Trump tried to shut down the 86 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: Russia investigation, Oh, they'll be all these think pieces and 87 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: there'll be lots of editorials about the process of impeachment 88 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: and whether it's even possible to press criminal charges against 89 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: the commander in chief for obstruction of justice. And that 90 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: will all be in advance you see of the testimony. 91 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: By the time we find out what Mr James Comy 92 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: has to say, we will have been treated to a 93 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 1: steady diet day's worth of damaging anti Trump media narrative 94 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: on this. Now you see how the game is played. 95 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: There is something in advance, or something that you're going 96 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: to talk about in advance. You established the perception before 97 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: there's the reality to counter the narrative, and you run 98 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: with it and you push it and you make it 99 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: as damaging as possible, and there's no unringing the bell. 100 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: So that's what I see here. And as I've knowned you. 101 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: By the way, the process is the punishment. The purpose 102 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: of much of this investigation is to slow down, to stymy, 103 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: to hamper uh and and hamstring everything that the administration 104 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: is trying to accomplish, as well as to be a 105 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: catharsis right, and whenever somebody at home who's a Democrat 106 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: and believes all this stuff. And by the way, there's 107 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: a really fascinating um peace out. I'm trying to find 108 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: right now what the specific numbers are, but it says 109 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: that more or less there are a lot of people 110 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: who believe that the actual election was hacked, meaning that 111 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: the numbers were changed, meaning that someone got into the 112 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: voting machines, which is an astonishing, an astonishing well lie. 113 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: Of course, no one, no one who pays attention thinks 114 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: that that's what happened, but it is commonplace among many 115 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: Democrats now to believe this. They think that there is 116 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: in fact, not just a Russia collusion conspiracy, but that 117 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: the election itself is a false election. And if that 118 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: is the case, well why would they even begin to 119 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: accept this president in any way, shape or form. He's 120 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: a legitimate They really think this is true. And if 121 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: you're sitting at home and you believe that anything that 122 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: is anti Trump there for you will, like um, any 123 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: story about Russia collusion, you will pay attention to. This 124 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: is effective for the leftist media business model and all 125 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: these people that I see by the way on TV. Oh, 126 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: we're just going with the facts. Leaders. You know, democracy 127 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: dies in darkness. We're journalists now. They seem to forget 128 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: the damage that was done to the reputation of journalism 129 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: over the course of eight years of Obama. And this 130 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: isn't a what about is um? What about the Obama years? 131 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: This is just a fair analysis of what the American 132 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: people think of the media that currently presents them with stories, 133 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: particularly stories from inside d C about politicians and about policies, 134 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: after eight years of being a bunch of throne shining 135 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: uh quizlings, people who just will do anything in order 136 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: to be in the good graces of the administration, who 137 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: will excuse any affront to the constitution, who will make 138 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: allowances for any act of authoritarianism. Because Obama was so great. 139 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: I think even saw the headline earlier this week from 140 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Barbara Walters that quote, we thought he'd be the next 141 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: Messiah after all that they expect us now to believe 142 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: them when they say, no, we're just bringing you the fact. 143 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: It's all about journalism. No, these investigations, whether it's the 144 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: House Investigation, the House Intelligence Committee, or the Special Council 145 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: led by former FBI Director Robert Mueller, all of these investigations, 146 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: plus whatever investigative work the media outlets can do with 147 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: their leaks. Right there, panoply of leaks just coming to 148 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: them all the time, right when they need them, right 149 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: when it is essential in the news cycle. They think 150 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: that they can win this propaganda war against the administration 151 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: and it will end with Trump being impeached or resigning. 152 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: That is what they think will happen here. Um. And 153 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: if the administration makes some his steps, and I worry 154 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: sometimes not that they'll do things that are as unethical 155 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: and terrible as Democrats pretend to think they would actually do, 156 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: but with the kinds of measures that one would take, 157 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: because they're not really aware of what game the other 158 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: side is playing. They don't understand the legalities, they don't 159 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: understand the way this will be treated politically. Uh, they're 160 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: a little bit loose with the way they talk about 161 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: some of this in this White House. Um, and and 162 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: have made some amateurish errors. I think we could say 163 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: that have fed into a media that just wants to 164 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: destroy them. Now, there are some out there that are 165 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: fighting the good fight on this one and refused to 166 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: go down without establishing at least that this is truly 167 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: a witch hunt of of of proportions that we have 168 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: never seen before. This, this is a first. The media 169 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: likes to often say about Trump whenever he does something 170 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: they do not like, Oh, this is unprecedented. No, no, 171 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Usually they are hyperventilating about something that if they took 172 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: five seconds and looked up on the Google, they'd figure out, Oh, no, 173 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: In fact, this was done by the last president of 174 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: the president before that. Maybe we shouldn't pretend that this 175 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: is the death of the Republic. Day in and day out, 176 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: and one more, one more story after another about how 177 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: Trump is destroying America with his latest actions. I would 178 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: hope that at least we will be able to mount 179 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: a sufficient defense against the coming media onslaught that anyone 180 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: of honest mind, which might not even be enough to 181 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: prevent a Democrat landslide in the mid terms. I don't know, 182 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: I worry, but anyone of of honest mind Anyone who's 183 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: willing to look at the facts and the truth will say, Wow, 184 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: this is a media reversal of the American people's decision 185 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: on election Day. That's what this is all really about. 186 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm not making the Trump presidency not just end, but 187 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: making it as though it never happened. These are the stakes, 188 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: my friends. Uh, this is the fight that we are in. 189 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: And as we get more about this in a series 190 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: of investigations, you'll see, uh that this is not going anywhere, 191 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: and it is White House under siege. It's going to 192 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: be continuing for months, if not years. But some are 193 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: fighting well on this, and I'll get to one of them. 194 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: I gonna give you a little a little hint here. 195 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: Johnson knew knew recently on Russia collusion, had some great 196 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: stuff to say us. Just because something looks gross, it 197 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's illegal. Just because any ethical person and 198 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: would refrain from certain behavior, it doesn't necessarily make it criminal. Now, well, 199 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: am I telling you this? So I promised you Sun 200 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give you some Sonunu at his finest. 201 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: It's actually on buck Sexen dot com now as well. 202 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: If you want to watch the full video later on 203 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: not now because we're on radio um. But the House 204 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: Intelligence Panel has issued seven subpoenas in the Russia prob 205 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 1: I mean, subpoenas are flying, flying wild all over the 206 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: place today. You've got subpoenas coming out of all over 207 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: the place. Um. You've got Mike Flynn subpoena. Uh, Michael Cohen, 208 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: who who subpoena who? Uh you know he's been subpoena. 209 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: And now the House Intelligence Committee, according to the Wall 210 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: Street Journal here has issued seven subpoenas in a sign 211 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: that it's investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the election 212 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: is ramping up in scope and in intensity. The Republican 213 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: led Committee issued four subpoenas related to the Russia investigation. 214 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: Three are related to questions about how and why the 215 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: names of associates of President Donald Trump were unredacted and 216 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: distributed within classified reports by Obama administration officials during the 217 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: transition between administrations. The committee has subpoenaed the National Security Agency, 218 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Central Intelligence Agency 219 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: for information about what is called unmasking UM. These subpoenas 220 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: seek information on requests by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice, 221 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: former CIA Director John Brennan, and former United Nations Ambassador 222 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: SA Samantha Power for names to be unmasked in classified material. 223 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: UN Ambassador Samantha Power, that's an interesting I didn't know 224 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: that she was involved in this, to be honest with you. 225 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Un she's she's the UN ambassador, and she's 226 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: mm hmm. The plot thickens, my friends. But here is 227 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: what I want to tell you, And I don't think 228 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: everybody on the right who analyzes the news and what's 229 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: going on in the world for a living would necessarily 230 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: be either well aware of this or willing to tell 231 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: you this. Even if there is found to be a 232 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: pattern of unmasking that was clearly politically motivated, it might 233 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: be very difficult for that to be anything other than 234 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: a case of poor judgment in the sense that if 235 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: the discretion is there for these members of government to 236 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: make the requests, and they keep making the requests, I 237 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: don't know if they violated any criminal statute by doing so. 238 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that there is a criminal statute that 239 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: they would have now anyone unmasking and then leaking that's 240 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: clear early a violation of federal criminal statute. But just 241 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: the request themselves may not be a problem. Now they 242 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: may be a huge political probably huge political liability will 243 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: look very clear, I think, depending on what we find 244 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: out and what we know in all of this, it 245 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: will become obvious that there was a pretextual abuse of 246 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: intelligence gathering authority or not in this case, intelligence gathering 247 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: unmasking UM using the power that some of these senior 248 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: officials have to find out who U S persons are 249 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: that are collected in intelligence. As we've discussed before, this 250 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: is now all out there. People understand unmasking, They understand 251 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: the procedures in place that are supposed to protect US 252 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: persons from being caught up in violation of their Fourth 253 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Amendment rights in intelligence collection. But if the people who 254 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: are given the diss aggression within the intelligence apparatus are 255 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: creating a pretext right there saying well I want to 256 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: know about this because of X. As long as they 257 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: have that pretext, I'm not sure you can get them 258 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: on anything beyond clearly they were trying to. And this 259 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: is assuming we don't know what's going to be said here. 260 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: That the God to the House has to do their investigation, 261 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: and I do feel a little uneasy about applying the 262 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: same techniques on our side that the other side does, 263 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: which is supposition insinuation, make the conclusion before you've got 264 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: the evidence, right, Uh, you know, first comes the sentence, 265 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: then comes the trial. I think that's Alice in Wonderland. Ah, 266 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: that's what the left has been doing with with Trump 267 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: and Russia and collusion. But on our side, with the 268 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: inquiry into the unmasking because this that's what this is 269 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: going to turn into now. Unlike Benghazi, which people have 270 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: talked about a lot as see what they did to 271 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and Benghazzi and all the investigations, and there's 272 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: no narrative of what both sides really want to look into. 273 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: The Democrats in Benghazi didn't want to talk about it, 274 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: and Republicans were like, no, we'd like to know why 275 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: you lied about this and why this was a failure 276 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: and why for Americans died, and but Democrats just wanted 277 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: to move beyond it. What we see here with the 278 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: investigations into the Trump administration right now, because on the 279 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: one hand, you have an obsession with a collusion narrative 280 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: that still has no evidence, and on the other you 281 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: have Republicans who are digging in deep into what was 282 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: going on with unmasking, you know, what was going on 283 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: with intelligence collection and US persons and of course also leaks. 284 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: How does this information find its way to the press. 285 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, people keep talking about 286 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: leaks and and and I'll give you some of the 287 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: statistics and some more data on that, um soon. Uh 288 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: speaking of statistics and data. By the way, I forgot, 289 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: uh the alternative this is on the Daily Call or 290 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: fifty eight percent of Democrats think Russia rigged the vote 291 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: to get Trump elected. That's according to the latest economist 292 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: you gov poll, fifty percent that it is probably or 293 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: definitely true that Russia tampered with vote tallies, more than 294 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: half of Democrats in a poll. I mean, you can 295 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: tell me this poll is nonsense. I don't know. Is 296 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: this a good poll? Economists you go, I don't know, 297 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: but that you can find any reputable polster that finds 298 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: a poll at fifty of Democrats think the vote was 299 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: rigged when it clearly wasn't. You know? These are the 300 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: hashtag science, hashtag facts people, right. Uh, they are detached 301 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: from reality here. But I gotta get back onto leaks 302 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: and and so noon giving a clinic. Don't know how 303 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: you do the SONU new that you do so well. 304 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: It's a spell. So new new makes me want to shoot. Um, 305 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: that's how I felt after the new new clip. I'm 306 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: about to play for you here. He just did a 307 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: great job. He was on CNN. He was on CNN 308 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: and he was taking well, he was dealing with the 309 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Russia collusion narrative, um, and he was asked a whole 310 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: bunch of questions about it. And this is how he 311 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: handled the collue. This is Bush's former chief of staff Johnson, 312 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: who knew, showing us how it's done. Play the clip, please, 313 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: So Jared Kushner meeting with a major Russian banker of 314 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: a massive bank that has connections to Vladimir Puttin. Nothing 315 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: to see there? Well, tell me what you think is 316 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: to see there and I'll comment on it. What do 317 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: you think would be the motivation? I don't think there's anything, no, no, 318 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: But do you think it's well, no, no, you're asking 319 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: the question and you clearly think there's something. So what 320 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: do you think, anchor Lady? I think it's it's Alison 321 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: Cameron to go ahead, play because during the ten weeks 322 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: everybody is trying to meet somebody who's going to be 323 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: in the administration, everybody who's involved in business, everybody who's 324 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: involved in politics. I can't tell you how many people 325 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: tried to meet with me between you meet with a 326 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Russian banker when everybody tried to meet with you. Pause. 327 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: That is what we call a non sequitur. That's irrelevant. 328 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, did he meet with a Russian banker? No? 329 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: But does that mean that meeting with the Russian banker 330 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: is wrong? It all depends on the context, right. That's 331 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: like saying, yeah, uh, well, it's it's a non sequitor. 332 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: Bottom line, it brings something into the conversation that has 333 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: nothing to do with anything. No one saying that's a 334 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: new new met with the Russian banker. But that doesn't matter. 335 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: The question is it wrong for Jared Kushner to have 336 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: allegedly had a meeting with a Russian banker? And snow 337 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: doesn't It doesn't matter? Right? Anyway, keep playing soon it does. Well, No, 338 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: but I had breakfast with the Vice president that the 339 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: Russian embassy and a lot of folks. They started talking 340 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: to me and would you have time to meet with 341 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: a Russian banker with ties to Vladimir Putin if he asked. 342 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what would have happened if that. 343 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: First of all, Puton wasn't there. But look, you're asking 344 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: hypotheticals on hypothetical you have nothing age. You're at your 345 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: comfort level with all of this, my comfort level. The 346 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: only discomfort I have is with folks in the media 347 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: trying to create a venality without having the courage to 348 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: specifically tell me what the venality that I should be 349 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: concerned about. You see what's happening here. She's coming up 350 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: with hypothetical questions. You know, they're just just asking questions. 351 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: She's coming up with with hypothetical questions that are all 352 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: meant to have an implication. Right. So again, thought experiment 353 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: very useful when you're dealing with the media and propagandists 354 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: who are out there who think that they're oh, they're nonpartisan, right, 355 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: Democracy dies in darkness. They're just they're just trying to 356 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: bring the good stuff, the truth to the people, which 357 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: is nonsense. Um. But here we are. Um, I could 358 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: sit around and ask a lot of questions to somebody 359 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: and we would all know what I'm implying. Right. So 360 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: if I sat down and I said so Mr you know, 361 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: so Mr Smith, Uh, does your does your wife always 362 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: have to visit the hospital for hitting her head, you know, 363 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: once every other week? And he goes, oh, well, no, 364 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: but she doesn't. She she hasn't visit the hospital in 365 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: in years? What do you No? No, No, I just 366 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: want to ask, you know, did did she do when 367 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: she visits the hospital with great frequency? Are you there 368 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: by her side? But what are you talking about? That's 369 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: not even that hasn't happened. That's oh. But but let's 370 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: just say, let's just say that your wife was appearing 371 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: with mysterious bruising somewhere? Um, would would you? Would you 372 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: notify the authorities about that? You see what I'm And 373 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: the guy says, well, but there's no bruising. What do 374 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: you you see what I'm saying? The implication is clear 375 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: right from from the questioning that they're not asking questions 376 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: searching for a fact. They have a conclusion and they 377 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: ask questions supposedly to or in support of that conclusion 378 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: and their questions for it. No one can give proper 379 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: answers anyway. But we're just we're just asking questions. Uh, 380 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: and Sonnas saying what are we even talking about Okay, 381 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: so Kushner met with a banker who you know, this, 382 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: by the way, coming from the people who didn't think 383 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: it was weird at all for the former president to 384 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: launch his political career in the living room in Chicago 385 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: of a known terrorist, Right, that that isn't weird at all. 386 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: This from the same media who thought that it wasn't 387 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: weird in the least for the president of the United 388 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: States for two terms to have spent twenty years of 389 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: his life going to a church where the pastor would 390 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: say things like damn America and that after not eleven 391 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: or not eleven was the chickens coming home to roost. 392 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: And no, no, not nothing, nothing weird about that at all. 393 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: In fact, to bring that up was racism. But now 394 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: it is Donald Trump that is the subject of their inquiries, 395 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: or Jared Kushner, who's of course Donald Trump's son in law. 396 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: And I'm the first to say, by the way, that 397 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: Trump should not have made his daughter and his son 398 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: in law the most senior advisors in his government. Okay, 399 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: that's that was not a good idea. That does not 400 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: send good messages. I disagree with that. I don't think 401 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: it's the end of the world. But I disagree with it. 402 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: I think that that is a mistake. I think that 403 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: it is not unethical, but unwhy eyes at a minimum. Um. 404 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: But that said, you got the media running around trying 405 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: to convince everybody that Jared Kushners a trader based on nothing. 406 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: You know, the word treason is thrown around like we're 407 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: talking about parking tickets here, you know, and maybe the 408 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: guy's a trader, maybe he's not. There are a few 409 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: things I think that most Americans would more uh fear 410 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: as a description of themselves and their behavior than Trader. 411 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, you know, Trader is below is 412 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: below you know, maybe I don't even know. I mean, 413 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: you depends on the level of treason, right, but Trader 414 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: goes on the list traded your country with racist, with 415 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: you know, child molester. I mean, these are It's a 416 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: really bad thing to have betrayed your country, and yet 417 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: much of the media seems to think that the president 418 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: and some of his top advisors have betrayed the country. 419 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: They asked questions meant to imply that the President of 420 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: the United States has betrayed his country, and Johnson new 421 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: knew it's just not having to keep going. Please well, 422 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't have I have not identified of anality, have you. Well, 423 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: you should be concerned if there was collusion, and that's 424 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: what I don't know. I don't see any evidence of collusion, 425 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: do you. No, that ends, That should end you're reporting 426 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: right there, I should put an exclamation point after you know, understood. 427 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: But we're the beginning of the investigations. So what you're 428 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: seven months into the investigation? Seven months has just taken 429 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: over new investigation. We have leaks about leaks that that 430 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: you would assume if they are true, right, And I was, 431 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, if they're true, Like, I don't have 432 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: access to any of this stuff and haven't had access 433 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: to anything like this in a very long time, so 434 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. So I hate having to play the 435 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: government game to have been like, well, if they are true, Like, 436 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm just like you, I don't know if they're true 437 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: or not. But assuming the leaks are real information, which 438 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: I think we can all assume, you know, some of 439 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: them are. Um, they would only be able to come 440 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: from classified from from classified means, and that tells us 441 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: that there are people who are willing to not just 442 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: break the law and engage in that kind of unethical behavior, 443 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: but to risk their careers and their freedom to hurt 444 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: Trump that is a that is a next level kind 445 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: of hatred. Right. It's one thing to risk getting fired 446 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: because you hate a president. It's another thing to risk 447 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: maybe going to prison because you hate a president. But 448 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: there are people in the government who fall into that category. 449 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: On top of that, the notion that we would not 450 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: know at this point, and I know I've said this before, 451 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: but it does bear repeat eating we would not know 452 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: at this point if there was Russia collusion that was 453 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: truly damning. I'm not even talking about illegal necessarily because 454 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: just there there's no way, As I've said to you, 455 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: what does that even look like? You know, sitting down 456 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: with some guy, I was like, will you help us, 457 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: uh hack put us those email? No that that didn't happen. Okay, 458 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: I can tell you that did not happen, nor nor 459 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: were Trump or any of his associates saying yeah, go 460 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 1: for that long shot Bizarro Podesta d n C email 461 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: hacked plot. And if anyone finds out about this, I 462 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: will be ruined and my reputation destroyed forever. But I 463 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: love Trump that much that I would take this risk. 464 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: It just when you really look at this, when you 465 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: when you apply the microscope of your honest and incisive 466 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: analysis to this entire theory, it just falls apart. It 467 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: disintegrates because it doesn't makes sense. But that we are 468 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: told now that this has been going on, Oh, it's 469 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: it's just starting. The news has been going on for 470 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: seven months. Trust me. If there was a conversation that 471 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: had occurred between Donald Trump or one of his top people, 472 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about. How you know somebody 473 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: who showed up once at a Trump rally, uh and 474 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: and tried to raise some money for the Trump campaign 475 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: once had a friend of a friend who was a 476 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: Russian intelligence guy that wanted some more influence in the 477 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: in the administration. I mean, give me a break. If 478 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 1: we're talking about a meaningful contact between meaningful parties on 479 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: both sides, Trump's side and Russia's side. If that existed, 480 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: don't you think we would have heard about it by now? 481 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: It would exist. I assume somewhere in the intelligence communities 482 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: archives in its databases, um and someone would probably know. 483 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: But here's the other possibility that doesn't get much attention 484 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: for the media, but I think it should. What if 485 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: all along. There were some people in the government, in 486 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: the Obama administration who were so overtaken by and so 487 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: caught up in a frenzy as a result of the 488 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: theory that some may have started inside the community or 489 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: inside the top levels of the Obama administration that there 490 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: was active Russia Trump collusion, that they just went too far. 491 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: What if they abuse their authority, whether it's in unmasking 492 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: or any number of areas. What if they leaked information 493 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: all for nought in the sense that there was no 494 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: real Russia Trump collusion, Well then they have to at 495 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: least try to create some narrative after the fact, right 496 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: that then they have to push and say, well, yeah, 497 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: there was a lot of smoke. Oh man, there was 498 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: so much smoke, because if when all is said and done, 499 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: there's no fire. But there have been illegal leaks, and 500 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: there have been abuses of power within the government. It 501 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: is in fact that democ cracks and the Obama administration 502 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: and its legacy that will be deeply damaged by this. 503 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: Not Trump resigning, getting impeached, or being frog marched in 504 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: handcuffs out of the White House, because I don't think 505 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: any of those things are ever going to happen. Phones 506 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: are open if you want to chat my friends? Eight 507 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: four four? Wait, did we finish the new news? Are 508 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: a little more? Was a little more? Let's let's look 509 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: so new new makes me want to shoot play it? Well? No, 510 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, look, that's not exactly fair, Governor, because, as 511 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, Congress to do this to handle this, because 512 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: so it gets away from all of the partisan bickering. 513 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: So it's just starting in that regard. Can I ask 514 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: a question if Mula comes out and says that my 515 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: version is correct and yours isn't, how much crow are 516 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: you going to eat? Governor? I don't have a version 517 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: of events. You knew the whole half hour right listening 518 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: to is a version. We're asking the questions of these sources, 519 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: no attempting to see where the investigation is. The investigation 520 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: is without without identifying a v reality that should be investigated. Yeah, 521 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: usually investigations. Okay, And we got it. We we we've 522 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: we've got we get the that's by the way, that's 523 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: where I really just want to lose it. Whether it's 524 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: CNN or MSNBC or any number of others, this whole 525 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: thing about you know, we don't think that Trump did anything. 526 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: We just want to find out. Oh no, we don't 527 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: think anything bad happened here. Those same people, by the way, 528 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: will jump down your throat if you write on you know, 529 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Facebook or Twitter or something that you don't believe there's 530 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: anything here. So the la huncle you. Meanwhile, you're like, 531 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: well wait, I thought you have no evidence and I 532 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: thought this is just an investigation. So why do you 533 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: get angry when I say I don't think there's anything here. 534 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: Clearly you do think there's something here. Meat You clearly 535 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: Alison Camerata and the rest of the major cast over 536 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: at CNN does think there's something here, and that they 537 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: can't even come clean on that is fascinating to me 538 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: and tells us a whole lot about where all this goes. 539 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: All right, eight buck, we will be right back, team, 540 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: stay with me. Lines are lit. Let's take him Greg 541 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma? Is this is this war fighter Greg? I 542 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: feel like I know you, Greg. This is war fighter Greg. 543 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, my man. Thanks for calling in. Absolutely, 544 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm so glad he talked about the new New Uh. 545 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: After watching that clip you put up yesterday on your page, 546 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: I had to call you and talk to you about it. 547 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: Because the anchor and I don't remember who it was, um, 548 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: but it seems like people at CNN are using the phrase, well, 549 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: we're just asking questions, because she's the third or fourth 550 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: anchor that I've heard. I know a couple of senators 551 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: have said it over the last couple of weeks too. 552 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: They're just using this phrase, kind of like you said, 553 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: as an instigator to an outcome that they want. They're 554 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: just saying, we're just ask him questions. Great, I could 555 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: ask questions about anything. You're asking him for a very 556 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: specific reason, acting as if you were a reason for 557 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: asking them is completely innocent, which we all know if not. 558 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: Like Sanna said, they spent the last what seven months 559 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: looking into this, and she said, no, there's no evidence 560 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: of collusion, and there's collusions not a crime to begin with, 561 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: like you have continued to say in the last seven months. 562 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: I just find it interesting that they're all glomming onto this. 563 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: We're just asking questions and narrative just to further it along, 564 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: to keep uh, their their way of talking about something, right. 565 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I imagine you know that they compare this 566 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: to Benghazi, and I always want to say, first of all, 567 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: that's that's offensive because Benghazi, something happened. We we we 568 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: lost for Americans, We had US facilities attacked and destroyed, 569 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: and we were lied to about it. Those were all 570 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: facts when when we were saying, let's have it been 571 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: Gassi investigation. As so noon as pointing out, we are 572 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: having an investigation over no apparent crime, an investigation over 573 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: uh Russia influencing the election, which doesn't in any way 574 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: of fact. You know that the Trump campaign has still 575 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: to this day, there's no proof that Trump campaigned any 576 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: part of this whatsoever. So it's like a congressional investigation 577 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: of a Russian propaganda campaign that had no chance of 578 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: swaying the election anyway. That's what's going on here, right 579 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: and as but also they've piled on all these leaks 580 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: to make it seem like there's more here, which actually 581 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,959 Speaker 1: are crimes exactly. And I'm actually glad in kind of 582 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: surprised the Republicans are coming out and actually, you know, 583 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: Subpoena and all these people about the unmasking, because as 584 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: we both know, unmasking is the highest level of prime 585 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: that I I think we could possibly do um when 586 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: it comes to intelligence. I mean, you you're letting people 587 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: know who and what they're doing. Um, and finding out 588 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: just because you want to what Americans because you have 589 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: some sort of political event. Um. It complete insanity that 590 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: this isn't the leading story every night is who did 591 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: the unmasking? Unmasking is not Unmasking is not necessarily illegal 592 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: at all. Right, Unmasking can be legal, but I'm asking 593 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: for political purposes is an abuse, and unmasking and then 594 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: leaking is definitely very illegal. Right, Yeah, I'm sorry, specifically 595 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: meant the leaking to the the Washington Post in that 596 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: It's just it's completely insane that that's not brought up 597 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: every single night by every Republican that goes on TV. 598 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean, right, I mean, you know there are leaks 599 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: where someone's where someone's talking to a reporter and they're 600 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: supposed to be talking to reporter and they say more 601 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: than they mean to or something, and you know that's bad, 602 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: But that's a mistake. The leaks that we're talking about 603 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 1: here are intentional to harm fellow Americans, to break oaths 604 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: and to break the law. You know what I'm saying 605 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: that it's not an accidental leaku These are bad leaks. 606 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: Exactly what we know how the intelligent community works. And 607 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: there are times when oh man, I didn't need to 608 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: say that, or I didn't mean to do whatever it 609 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: was to thank you for your service. Gets we're time. 610 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: We're going to cancel the Paris Climate Agreement and stop 611 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: unbelievable and stop all payments of the United States tax 612 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 1: dollars to U and global warming programs. President Obama entered 613 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: the United States into the Paris Climate Accords unilaterally and 614 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: without the permission of Congress. This agreement of foreign bureaucrats 615 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: control over how much our energy and how much we 616 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: use right here in America. So foreign bureaucrats are going 617 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: to be controlling what we're using and what we're doing 618 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: on our land in our country. No way. That was 619 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: the horrible, detestable uh Wells of the Wales. President of 620 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: the United States saying he wants to concel the Paris 621 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: Climate Agreement. This is the worst. I am so sad 622 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: this man who eats the steak with the catchup. This 623 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: is a disgrace. Yepah, he might get rid of the 624 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: Paris Climate Agreement. That's that's what is being said today. 625 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: Hasn't happened yet. He promised it would happen. At some point, 626 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: as flying there before with you, the French people will 627 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: be very upset if he gets rid of the agreement. 628 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: The whole world will be absurd if his verbal flatulence 629 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: has made a reality. So we'll see. Um, let's talk 630 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: about this agreem for a second, shall we Um? You 631 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: have people, uh, well, you have people out there who 632 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: are saying that this is a moral catastrophe if they 633 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: were to step back from asagreement. I I read through 634 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: the agreement today, which was brutal because it's so boring 635 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: and full of sentences that go like being parties to 636 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, pursuant to the 637 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: Durban Platform for Enhanced Action in pursuit of the objective 638 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: of the Convention, recognizing the need for an effective and 639 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: progressive response, also recognizing specific needs and special circumstances of 640 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: developing countries, taking full account of recognizing that, emphasizing the 641 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Gosh, it is brtal you get into 642 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: this agreement, But I did want to read a part 643 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: of it to you that will be necessary for our 644 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: discussion of this, because once again, this this goes into 645 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: the why the media hates Trump pile this climate stuff 646 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: is so very very important to them. But this goes 647 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: in that pile. Uh, they say, in this, in this 648 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: Paris agreement, Um, they said the following, this is what 649 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: we have under the Obama administration agreed to parties aim 650 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: to reach global peaking of greenhouse gas emissions as soon 651 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: as possible, recognizing that peaking will take longer for developing 652 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: country parties, and to undertake rapid reductions thereafter in accordance 653 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: with best available science, so as to achieve a balance 654 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: between anthropogenic emissions by sources and removals by sinks of 655 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: greenhouse gas is in the second half of this century 656 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: on the basis of equity and in the context of 657 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: sustainable development and efforts to eradicate poverty. Let me tell 658 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: you what this means. They're saying that all the countries 659 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: that are agreeing to this thing, well, they will take 660 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: into account where they are on the development scale, and 661 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: they will determine what's a meaningful or realistic uh CEO 662 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: two reduction goal for them or greenhouse gas emission reduction 663 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: goal um, and then they will self grade and there 664 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: will in fact be no enforcement mechanism in place. So 665 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: this is the climate equivalent, my friends, And just imagine 666 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: how much fun this would have been if you're back 667 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: in high school and instead of your math teacher saying, 668 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: all right, here are the twenty questions on the exam. 669 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: You'll have a total of sixty minutes to complete it. 670 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 1: Please shell you work for partial credit. I'm having nightmares 671 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: right now, by the way. I'm about to I'm about 672 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: to pass out here. It's thinking about old math tests. 673 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: So so bad at geometry. I mean really, I just 674 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: didn't pay enough attention because I was distracted by other 675 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: things going on in one's life as a young man. Um. 676 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was not good at geometry. And I 677 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: remember that feeling in your stomach when you get back 678 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: a math test that you knew hadn't gone well and 679 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: and it got put on the table in funny and 680 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: you were just like, oh oucht little kick in the 681 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: stomach feeling of like does that really say like sixty four? 682 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: That's not good? Um, I had to had had some 683 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: rough ones on the math side of things. Fortunately. Anyway, 684 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna start talking about high school math class. 685 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: All of you are going to switch the channel. We 686 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: don't want that. So but you know what, I mean 687 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: about imagine if you could have, just for your Russians, 688 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: decided what the questions would be and decided what the 689 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: answers were and graded it yourself. It wouldn't that have 690 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: been fun? That is what the Climate agreement breaks down to. 691 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: That that that what it is, what it becomes. Uh. 692 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: And here from the Heritage Foundation, which I know is 693 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, conservative, and so they would say, well, conservatives 694 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: can't do science, um, which is a slander. But the 695 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: left likes to say that stuff. You know. They same 696 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: people who believe that gender is a state of mind 697 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: want to lecture the rest of us on science. Okay, 698 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: that's interesting. Um. The benefits though, according to Heritage, are 699 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: as follows. If we did everything in this climate agreement, which, 700 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: by the way, I do think Trump is going to 701 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: pull out from this agreement because why not it will 702 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: drive liberals crazy, which would be fun, right, we want that. 703 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: I do think that he will. He will pull the 704 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: US out of this. And I also, by the way, 705 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: don't like this. Senate doesn't have to ratify things. And 706 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: more the president just commits us to stuff and that 707 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: that's a problem. But separate discussion, here's what it would 708 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: have given us if all carbon dioxide emissions from the 709 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation UH paper on on the Climate Agreement, if 710 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: all carbon dioxide emissions in the United States we're effectively eliminated, 711 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: they would be less than two tenths of a degree 712 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: celsius reduction in global temperatures. Two tenths you say, my 713 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: good Mountain save us all. Yeah, two tenths of a degree. Everybody. 714 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the the glaciers are gonna miilt. It's crazy. Nope, no, no, 715 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: They're not gonna melt there. That's gonna be okay. Do 716 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: you like, come on, we bouty pillar beers? You know 717 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you if you swim so far 718 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: from like when ice fluid and another ice flut its 719 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,280 Speaker 1: pillar beers and you know they were like the gam 720 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: a beer, Like you know what I'm Swimmingsteff, and you're 721 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: gonna drown me because a little bit warming. Uh By, 722 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: the polar bears are only on the northern part of Alaska, 723 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: as I found out. Thank you to UH our team 724 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: Buck Anchorage friends for putting that out to me. I 725 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: knew they are polar bears in Alaska. I just didn't 726 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: know what part of Alaska they're way up north. So 727 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: Anchorage only has grizzly bears. But I do know that 728 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: they're grizzly bears that have gotten in fact into Anchorage 729 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: city limits. I've heard stories, but I digress in a 730 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: big way. All right, back to this. So it says 731 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: two tenths of a degree celsius, and this Heritage Foundation 732 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: report on the Paris Climate Agreement, and this is if 733 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: we did everything perfectly, and then it goes on in fact, quote, 734 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: if the entire industrialized world could cut carbon emissions down 735 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: to zero, the climate impact would still be less than 736 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: four tenths of a degree celsius in terms of averted 737 00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: warming by the year twenty one hundred. Now I don't 738 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: know about you, but I do not stay up late 739 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: at night worried about the possible two tenths of the 740 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: of a degree warmer world degree Celsie's warmer world we 741 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 1: may be living in at some point in the future. 742 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: I certainly do not worry about the four tenths of 743 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: a degree that would be warmer around the world by 744 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: the year twenty one especially because, as we know, there 745 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: have been trends of warming and cooling going on for 746 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: the history of the planet. So it is, in fact 747 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: not anything particularly new. UM. But there are some people 748 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: that are on the right even that take this stuff 749 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: pretty seriously and and believe that the Paris Agreement is 750 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: something that we should stay party to in some level. 751 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: Nicky Haley, Ambassador to United Nations. The media likes her 752 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: a lot, which should be of concern. Here's what she said. 753 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: I would just say to supporters of it who think 754 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: it would be disastrous to pull out for the human race. Look, 755 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: we care as much about the climate as we do 756 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: about jobs. There's a way to balance that. You don't 757 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 1: have to have one or the other. And I think 758 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: that's what everyone internationally needs to know. We're not going 759 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,439 Speaker 1: to start polluting and creating all these problems in the world. 760 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: What we are going to do is balance it out. 761 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: All right, that's a fair answer. I was a little 762 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: hard on her. Balance it out, balance it out. If 763 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: by balancing out she means pull out of the Paris Agreement, 764 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: well then I'm then I'm fine with it. Here's what 765 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 1: the balance could be. By the way, also in this 766 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: uh Nick Loris is the author here of this Heritage 767 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: report UM on the economic impact of the plan. I 768 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: thought this was really this is where thing, This is 769 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: where it matters. Right. I know we're sitting around, You're 770 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 1: like buck that the you know, the bunch of climate 771 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: hippies come on, don't waste all of our time, and 772 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: there's other stuff to talk about. I understand that. But 773 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: if they got their way, and if we in fact 774 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 1: stayed on board with the Paris Agreement, and it should 775 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: be noted, the longer we you know, in America, in 776 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: one of these agreements, the more it just becomes a 777 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: thing that we're expected to abide by. Because people here 778 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: will say, oh, look, it's a thing that we have 779 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: to abide by it. Right, the environmentalist lobby will use 780 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: our inclusion in the agreement as uh as as a 781 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: binding agent to make sure that we stay in the agreement. Right, 782 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: we've been this agreement for three years. Oh we could 783 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: never leave. Um. But here's what would happen. According to 784 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: Heritage And you know, they crunched the numbers on this, 785 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: and I know that the lying left would say that, 786 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, you know, Heritage is numbers are wrong or whatever. Meanwhile, 787 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 1: there are numbers about climate change are wrong all the time. 788 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: We're supposed to ignore that. That's not supposed to matter 789 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: to us for some reason. Here's what it would mean 790 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: for you, for those of you listening to this show 791 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: right now, if we stay in the Paris Climate Agreement, 792 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: whether you're worried about polar bears swimming longer distances between 793 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,760 Speaker 1: ice flows or not, whether you're worried about, um, whatever 794 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: Al Gore says is going to happen to Florida, which 795 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: didn't happen to Florida. But you know, people just pretend 796 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: that he didn't say it. I guess whether worried about 797 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: that or not. Here's what will happen if we stay 798 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 1: in this agreement. Cordon Herrigeon overall average shortfall of nearly 799 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand jobs. This is by an average manufacturing 800 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: shortfall of over two hundred thousand jobs, a total income 801 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: loss attention to this one everybody of more than twenty 802 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for a family of four, an aggregate gross 803 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: domestic product loss of over two point five trillion dollars, 804 00:50:53,520 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 1: and increases in household electricity expenditures between thirteen So um, well, 805 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: people like to go on social media and talk about 806 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: how they're so environmentally friendly and they totally like eating actility, 807 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: take like paper bags, not plastic at the steer. In fact, 808 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: everything you're usable now it's canvas now. So you know, 809 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 1: you can take you wherever man like you can take 810 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: your canvas bag and just feel it and feel it again. Man. Uh. 811 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: They like to think of themselves as both pro science 812 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: and thoughtful and good, good citizens of the earth. Of course, 813 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: by being in favor of this climate agreement. Um. Meanwhile, 814 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: it means it's gonna be it's gonna be money out 815 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: of your pocket, and that should make everybody take a 816 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: moment to think about this. And overall average shortfall of 817 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand jobs, uh and costing you twenty dollars 818 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: the US economy two point five trillion, I mean, just 819 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 1: being told that my electricity bill might go up for what? 820 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: And by the way, this the part of the problem 821 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: with energy policy that's driven by environmentalist hysteria is that 822 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 1: it's not even just the numbers you can see very readily. 823 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 1: It's also the downstream impacts of the regulatory policies that 824 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,919 Speaker 1: come from the environmentalist craziness. Uh, as I've I think 825 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,800 Speaker 1: mentioned on this show before. But and those of you 826 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: who want a really good book on a history of 827 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: petroleum and the carbon based economy or history of oil. 828 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,760 Speaker 1: Really you can read Daniel Jurgen's book The Prize highly 829 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: right just comes to mind right now those of you 830 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: ask me for books. It's a great book. I read it, 831 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: loved it, and it gives you know you You're like, 832 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: wait a second, you mean that you know oil was 833 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: you know that America was the original oil superpower, and 834 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: that oil was first discovered and and and and uh 835 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 1: and used in commercial purposes in Pennsylvania, and before that 836 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: people were using whale oil. I know, right, that's that's 837 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: not sustainable. That's not a good idea. Um. But yeah, 838 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: Daniel Organs Surprize I really recommended, all right, a little 839 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: more on climate and then we we We've got a 840 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 1: lot of other stuff to get to. So I'll be 841 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: a back team. Stay with me. She's back, everybody, Hello 842 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. You thought you thought you'd be free of 843 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, didn't you? But no, you are not. You're not. 844 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: She's back and she wants to talk to you. I 845 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: miss you. Uh. She was giving a speech earlier today 846 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: at uh where was she? I don't even know where 847 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: she was? What was this California? Some sort of code 848 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: con is it? Code conference. There we go, thank you. UM. 849 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, they they were. She was given a speech 850 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,720 Speaker 1: and she said some stuff. She said something I wanted 851 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: to talk to you. So she said, for example, that 852 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: she was the victim of the assumption that she would win. 853 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: That was one fun little sound bite from Hillary Clinton, 854 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,359 Speaker 1: always the victim. But she spoke about the email server 855 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: for example, which she called, well, I'll let her say 856 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 1: it for the overriding issue that affected the election that 857 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,280 Speaker 1: I had any control over because I had no control 858 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: over the Russians. UM, too bad about that, but we'll 859 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 1: we'll we'll talk about it, I hope. UM was the 860 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: way that the use of my email account was turned into, 861 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: you know, the biggest scandal since lord knows when. And 862 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just in the book. I'm just using 863 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: every uh everything that anybody else said about it besides 864 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 1: me too. Basically said this was the biggest nothing burger ever. 865 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 1: Um doude, do we really get to call it a 866 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: nothing burger? When the FBI director stands up doing you 867 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,720 Speaker 1: a solid. By the way, Hillary, when Comey, don't forget 868 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: it was Comey who did this, stood up and said 869 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: that what she did was reckless in her handling the 870 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: classified information. That's a that's enough. That's a nothing burger. 871 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you can say that it's you 872 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: know that she's not the modern day Benedict Arnold for this, 873 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: I get that right. You know you could say that 874 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 1: she's not. It's not the worst thing that's ever been 875 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: done to the country. But a nothing burger. Wow, that 876 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: is quite a rewriting of history, which usually Hillary pays 877 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 1: other people to do for her under her name, with 878 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: whatever it is, sixteen books or something that she's put 879 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: out there. Uh, by the way, that's also as an aside, 880 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,479 Speaker 1: but a very important one. I think these stories about 881 00:55:54,520 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: Trump's and Kushner's real estate empire and their business interests 882 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 1: around the world. And one of the reasons that that 883 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: doesn't resonate except for with people who hate Trump and 884 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: so anything that's bad they like. But one of the 885 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: reasons that the the rest of us don't see it is 886 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: that the Clintons were engaged in a massive influence peddling 887 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: scheme around the world. They were selling access to policymakers. 888 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 1: They were selling the promise of future favors from the 889 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: Oval Office openly and on on a grandiose and elaborate scale. 890 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:33,280 Speaker 1: And also we're just a giant excuse for turning public 891 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 1: office into a money making machine. And the Clintons are 892 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,239 Speaker 1: held up still as some kind of political royalty by 893 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 1: the Democrats and by the media. Uh, you know, the 894 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: Clintons are rental politicians and we've known that for a 895 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: long time. So why are we supposed to think that, Oh, 896 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: Jared Kushner met with somebody from China about some investments somewhere. 897 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: And be honest with it's really hard to get anybody 898 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,959 Speaker 1: who doesn't hate Trump interested in that, because, for one, 899 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: what's been done by the Clintons for so long without 900 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: so much as a peep from anybody has just made 901 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,360 Speaker 1: it all seems so normal, And I think with the 902 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 1: Clintons it was really bad. I mean, I'm not even 903 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: speaking specifically to any one Jared or Trump issue, um, 904 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: but anyway, I've got more on on Hillary, but I 905 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to run into the 906 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: break here, which is gonna happen in a second. She 907 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: talks about call fey Fey. Those of you who might 908 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 1: have missed it, I'll bring up to speed on on 909 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: Cove call Fefe in a few minutes. Also, if you 910 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: want to call an eight four four nine Buck and 911 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: do check out Buck Sexton dot com. We had that's 912 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: new new clip up and people really enjoyed that we 913 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: post things news stories throughout the day. I also collect 914 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: emails there for our upcoming tb D when they released. 915 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: Will be but upcoming Team Buck newsletter. UM. Still working 916 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: on the t shirts. By the way, I know I 917 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 1: did give you a book recommendation for today though, the 918 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: prize by Daniel Jrgan, just because I thought maybe you'd 919 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: like it. Um, We're gonna talk more politics right after 920 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: the break. Stay with me. Welcome back everyone. We've got 921 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: our friend Elena Plot on the line. She is a 922 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: staff writer for the Washingtonian dot com. Elena, thank you 923 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: so much for joining us again. Thanks so much for 924 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: having me so you have a pace here in Washingtonian 925 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: dot com. The Trump Town Tribunes. President has upended the 926 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: hierarchy of the White House Briefing room. Our guide to 927 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: its new right wing power centers? Do tell what are 928 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: the new right wing power centers in this White House 929 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: briefing room? Yeah, so, Buck, I think one of the 930 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: most interesting things about this administration. From a medios stay 931 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: point is that you've seen all of these new outlets 932 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: kind of emerge from the woodwork as actual players when 933 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: it comes to press briefings and exclusive interviews with the president. Um, 934 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 1: some of the most interesting I would say right now, 935 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 1: you know Fox News of course, but also Fox and 936 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 1: Friends as a segment. If you really want to understand 937 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: where the President had spaces as a day to day basis, 938 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: you want to go to Fox and Friends. And I 939 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 1: think that's why their ratings have been skyrock ning Morning Joe. Honestly, 940 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: it's relevant just because when you want to understand what 941 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: the President is going to say, what he's going to tweet, 942 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: what he's going to be responding to, Fox and Friends 943 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: is the place to go and then you know whatever 944 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: you want to say about this. Opinion wise, a lot 945 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: of Russia related outlets have become prominent Russia Today, which 946 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: goes by RTI butt Nick. Those guys get questions frequently 947 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: in the briefing room with Sean Spicer, and again, whatever 948 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 1: opinion you have about that, their players now and you've 949 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 1: got to you know, a lot of reporters have to 950 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: reconcile themselves with that that they they're a competitor now 951 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: for scoops. I also see that there's the Skype array 952 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: is going to be making a comeback, So reporters enjoying 953 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: the briefing room via skype. Correct, And you know, there 954 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of feelings about that, but I'll say, 955 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, just as a reporter, I think it's terrific. 956 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: I think one of the you know, perilous things about 957 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,479 Speaker 1: DC based media, especially during the election. As you know, Buck, 958 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: very few people actually got it right with what was 959 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: going to happen in this election. And I think the 960 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 1: focus on local media, you know, is a really positive 961 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: thing about this administration. I think it's something his base 962 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: really likes, and I think including those skype sessions with 963 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: local based media, it's a really positive thing for this 964 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: administration and something that they've gotten great feedback on. What 965 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 1: are you hearing about the possible shake up in the 966 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 1: White House? We know there was a guy from the 967 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Communications Department or just left, a senior figure, but uh, 968 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: what else is coming? Correct? So Mike dub dub Key, 969 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 1: the constructor has left, so you now have Sean Spicers 970 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: serving as both Press Secretary and const dirrector. What my 971 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 1: sources in the White House are telling me is that 972 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: it's hard to know exactly right now what's going to happen. 973 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 1: The President and his top staffers changed their mind day 974 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 1: to day again it too, you know, going back to media, 975 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: if they hear on Fox and Friends suddenly what my source, 976 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 1: what my best White House source tells me. Listen, if 977 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 1: you go on Fox and Friends and here suddenly that 978 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: Shaun Spicer's the best thing that's ever happened to political media. 979 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Trump may keep him for the day. If you go 980 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: on and the hosts are saying Shawn Spicer's gotta go, 981 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: that could really influence the president's decision banking for the day, 982 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: so to kind of you know, I I do think 983 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the headlines about an imminent staff shake up, 984 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: um when in the Comps department especially, are a bit 985 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: premature because so much about what this White House wants 986 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: to do personnel wise is day to day. Are you 987 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: hearing anything about and we're speaking to Elena plot everyone 988 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 1: of a Washingtonian um dot com. Elena, Jared and Ivanca 989 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: maybe heading to New York, Jared Calvaca maybe heading to 990 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: New York. I I think that's overblown, buck um. What 991 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: my sources tell me is that Jared is going to 992 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: keep a the acquire of a profile after all of 993 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: these allegations about, you know, hoping to create a secret 994 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: channel with the Kremlin. But I don't think anything as 995 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: drastics of a move to New York all the Sunday 996 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: is going to happen. I could be wrong, but my 997 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: sourcesn't indicate to me that that's a little bit um 998 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: superculius to suggest something like that. All right, well, we 999 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: will have to keep an eye anything else that you see, 1000 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: any other political story that we should be paying attention 1001 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: to in the days ahead that maybe isn't top of 1002 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: the headlines right now. Absolutely, I mean, I do think 1003 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 1: this should be up in the headlines, and it is 1004 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 1: for a few outlets. But the fate of Ryn's previous, 1005 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: I think if we're talking about staff shake up, it's 1006 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: not the comps department we want to be looking at. 1007 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: It's that really close inner circle of advisors. I don't 1008 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 1: think that Ryn's previous has been someone. Based on Myron 1009 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 1: reporting that Trump has felt Um has related stayed one, 1010 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: stayed loyal to him, but also has provided for him 1011 01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to that initial healthcare bungling of the OOTE. 1012 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean that based on my sourcing, that has really 1013 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 1: stayed with Trump and he really believes that Rights Previous 1014 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 1: was the reason that we didn't the House didn't initially 1015 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,000 Speaker 1: get that health care bill through. It would not surprise 1016 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 1: me if if within the next few weeks or this summer, 1017 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 1: at some point, you see Rights Previous gone. What do 1018 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: you make of co f FE? Do I have to 1019 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: have an opinion? Box? I think everyone has to have 1020 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 1: an opinion. Listen. I think the typo is coverage, and 1021 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: I think that's nice. It's nice that we have a 1022 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 1: president who's a human being and has a typo every 1023 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: now and then. But I also don't feel the need 1024 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: to go to Box for a think piece about cafe face. 1025 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 1: I feel like cafe has to become something now though 1026 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: you know it's it's a neologism it needs, but it's 1027 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 1: a neologism without a definition. We need a new word here. 1028 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: Here's what I think. I think that if reports are 1029 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,479 Speaker 1: true from the time from the Post that this White 1030 01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: House is convening a war room to tackle a related 1031 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 1: questions to this so called Russia scandal, if co Basane 1032 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: needs to be the Secret Service word for the convening 1033 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: of this meeting. I think that works fine. All right, 1034 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 1: Elena Plot everyone check out her latest Washingtonian dot com 1035 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: and Elena, we always appreciate it. Thanks for stopping by. 1036 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 1: Great to talk to you, bucks By. And you know, 1037 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 1: Hillary has her own verb. Oh for those of you 1038 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: don't know, co fay Fete was in a h Donald 1039 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 1: Trump tweet and it has become one of these. It's 1040 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: taken on a life of its own. Uh So it 1041 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: was if she's right, it was coverage and he he said, 1042 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 1: despite the constant negative press cove co fayfe uh press coverage. 1043 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 1: It's just a type of but a type of from 1044 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: Trump becomes a news story unto itself. It says a lot. 1045 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think anybody would have ever imagined 1046 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 1: what a huge role the specific social media platform of 1047 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: Twitter would play in the Trump administration. I know a 1048 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,440 Speaker 1: lot of you are probably not on Twitter, but it 1049 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 1: is a preferred means of communication between Donald Trump and 1050 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: the world. So if for nothing else, you could go 1051 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: on Twitter and follow Donald Trump and follow buck Sexton two. 1052 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: But here's what Hillary Clinton, back to her speech earlier today, 1053 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 1: here's what she had to say about co fee fee 1054 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 1: play clip whatever that Hillary clips forty two. Thank you. 1055 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't think we can get into countyfe right now 1056 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: because it's the longer thing. But I thought I thought 1057 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: it was a hidden message to the Russians. He uh 1058 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 1: so is that a serious Is it serious or not 1059 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,440 Speaker 1: that Trump worked with because you see, that's that's a 1060 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: funny joke if the president didn't engage in treason. But 1061 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 1: but if you engage in treason, that's not funny, right, 1062 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 1: So which is it? I'm fine with laughing at it 1063 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 1: and thinking that that's that's a cute little moment, as 1064 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 1: long as we all realize that the reason it's funny 1065 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: is because the whole Russia collusion thing is preposterous. Right. Meanwhile, 1066 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm seeing here on media eye dot com, which 1067 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 1: is a site that some of you may or may 1068 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 1: not be familiar with. It's people in the media who 1069 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 1: do TV in particular, are obsessed with it because it 1070 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: takes the most viral clips of the day of people 1071 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 1: usually yelling at people. You know, that's not true, brob 1072 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 1: barb bar getting up at each other's faces, so to speak. 1073 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 1: On on cable news, the cable News War is playing 1074 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 1: out before your very eyes. But Media I dot Com 1075 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 1: has up that Hillary Clinton said that Russian efforts to 1076 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 1: interfere in the election were quote guided by Americans and 1077 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: that voters were quote targeted with this false information who 1078 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 1: were generally trying to genuinely trying to make up their minds. Um. 1079 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I want to pull the transcript this. 1080 01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 1: We might actually try to grab the audio of this 1081 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 1: for you later or in play it just so you 1082 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: can hear it. But wow, So you've got an investigation 1083 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: going on. The press is pushing the investigation as the 1084 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 1: as the number one new story in the country without 1085 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: fail every day. This is a daily investigation update. Now, 1086 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 1: this is what we're hearing about. This is the dominant, 1087 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: dominant issue in the news. And as I said, if 1088 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: you go to CNN dot com and a CNN is 1089 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 1: the Russia Trump Collusion investigation network, now that that is 1090 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 1: what they do. Ah. So Hillary Clinton, though as still 1091 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 1: a very prominent Democrat that a lot of Democrats rely 1092 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 1: on for I don't know what, but they do. Hillary 1093 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Clinton is out there and she is saying pre outright 1094 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 1: that Russia tipped the election against her. Um, that that 1095 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 1: should I think give the lie or that that that 1096 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 1: should prove the lie. When you have people in the media, 1097 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,479 Speaker 1: they're gonna go out there and say that they don't 1098 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 1: have a conclusion. They haven't come to a conclusion yet 1099 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 1: on this issue. They obviously have. They very much believe 1100 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 1: that this has happened, and so therefore it is okay 1101 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 1: for Hillary Clinton to just make these kinds of statements. 1102 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: One word. She likes to talk about things like how 1103 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 1: great she is in her trumps all the elections. You know, 1104 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like her, but you know it's her. 1105 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: You know it's Hillary deep down inside. Somehow it speaks. 1106 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 1: It speaks to the truth of of who Hillary is 1107 01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 1: on the on the inside. Oh, it's amazing. Um. But 1108 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,640 Speaker 1: she also spoke quickly. I just wanted to hit this 1109 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:48,879 Speaker 1: and then won't move on to another about Goldman sex. 1110 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 1: Why did you do those? I don't. Why do you 1111 01:08:53,600 --> 01:09:03,599 Speaker 1: have Goldman sex here? Because they pay us, they've paid me, 1112 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 1: and they paid you a lot, Yes, but didn't You're 1113 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: not somebody who needed that money for the next week's shopping, 1114 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: and you might have he knew you might have run, 1115 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 1: So why do it? Well? I gave speeches to many, 1116 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 1: many groups, you know, just a wide range of groups, right, 1117 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 1: and not just in the United States, but particularly in 1118 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 1: Canada and a few other places. And I was a 1119 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 1: senator from New York. I knew these people, and I 1120 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 1: knew what they did for the economy, and I knew 1121 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 1: what they did to the economy. And I think that, 1122 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, speaking to them raising questions, which I did 1123 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. Wait, oh, sorry, you can 1124 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 1: keep let we can let her finish. Oh is that it? 1125 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's it all right? Oh my bad. I thought 1126 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 1: we could. Well, it looks like we're not gonna let 1127 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,080 Speaker 1: her finish. Um, but I'll finish for her the answer 1128 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: to the question, which I have to give credit to 1129 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: you whoever that guy is at that forum for asking 1130 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,599 Speaker 1: and pressing her on right. You know, if that were 1131 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,320 Speaker 1: if that were Barbara Walters or you know, I don't know, 1132 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 1: uh Andrea Mitchell or uh you know, Anderson Cooper or whatever, 1133 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: that they would not have pressed on the issue. I 1134 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 1: don't think of. Okay, yeah, you gave a speech, but 1135 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,759 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're worth like over a hundred 1136 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,760 Speaker 1: million dollars, you're running for president. Do you really need 1137 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,679 Speaker 1: to take a lot of money from Goldman's sacks before 1138 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 1: you run for I mean, remember, this isn't like campaign contributions. 1139 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 1: It's just a check to go speak to them. You 1140 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 1: need you need that two fifty k that badly. And 1141 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 1: you notice she dances around. Why I give spades to 1142 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people because they want to hear my voice, 1143 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:50,559 Speaker 1: because I'm amazing. You'll notice that. Here's the real answer 1144 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 1: to why did Hillary when she knew she would be 1145 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: running for president, when she knew that this would be 1146 01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 1: a political liability for her, and when she new that 1147 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 1: if people found out what she said would be clear 1148 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,600 Speaker 1: that she was just a chronyist and a chrony capitalist 1149 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 1: and somebody who is very much, you know, worshiping at 1150 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 1: the altar of power and money. Um, the reason she 1151 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 1: took Goldman Sachs money is she is rapaciously greedy. She 1152 01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 1: is unceasingly grasping. She has a hole in her soul 1153 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 1: that will only be filled by vast tropes of cash 1154 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 1: and power. That's the real answer. And this is who 1155 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 1: they wanted to make the next president United States. Yeah, 1156 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you that Trump is a as 1157 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,600 Speaker 1: a as a model citizen for your children to you 1158 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,280 Speaker 1: know aspire to be just like I'm not gonna play 1159 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:55,519 Speaker 1: that game, but at least it's kind of likable. Hillary 1160 01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 1: is just everything is a lie. It's not bast it's 1161 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: not overstatement, it's not loose with the facts. It's just 1162 01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: it's just always the opposite of the truth. When when 1163 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: when it's in her when it is in her favor 1164 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 1: to lie, she lies just outright, which is again I 1165 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 1: know why people just don't really care and they just say, oh, 1166 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 1: look at all these lines of Trump says about crowd 1167 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 1: size or about this or that. Yeah, but Trump doesn't 1168 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 1: lie about stuff that people care about and quite the 1169 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 1: way that Hillary Clinton does. And I and look, I know, 1170 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,640 Speaker 1: two wrongs don't make it right. I get that. But 1171 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 1: the answer to the question, as I said to you, 1172 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: why did Hillary Clinton asking her? And she she won't 1173 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,840 Speaker 1: give it there because you know, she's not somebody who 1174 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: needs the money. Why take two or frety thousand all 1175 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 1: or some golden sacks before you're running for the presidency. 1176 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 1: Because she's really greedy and she thought that she would 1177 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 1: win anyway and people would cover for her, but mostly 1178 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 1: just because she's really greedy, because she is. That's that's 1179 01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,200 Speaker 1: who we're dealing with. You know, it takes a very 1180 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,759 Speaker 1: particular kind of person to set up a global charity 1181 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: that's really not about charity, but that's about creating a 1182 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:16,040 Speaker 1: political patronage network and funding one's travel habits on private 1183 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 1: jets and one's lifestyle and providing jobs for friends, and uh, 1184 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:25,400 Speaker 1: creating a giant organization for the betterment of Hillary Clinton's 1185 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 1: meeting schedule and Bill Clinton's meeting schedule around the world. 1186 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 1: And call it a charity that that takes a special 1187 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of person. And Hillary Clinton is that kind of person. 1188 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: She's amazing. All Right, we'll hit a break. We'll be 1189 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 1: right back. Richard in New Jersey. W I l M hey, Richard, Hi, 1190 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 1: I really just want to say thank you for letting 1191 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 1: me on the air. I just want to say I 1192 01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:02,680 Speaker 1: can't believe. I can't believe how fierce that the opposition 1193 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,240 Speaker 1: is determined to take down Donald Trump. I know that 1194 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 1: there's an actually in the you know that Harry Truman said, 1195 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 1: if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. 1196 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 1: But I just can't believe that they are so determined 1197 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,879 Speaker 1: to take him out. I'm I'm just surprised that they're 1198 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,920 Speaker 1: Frosso's really, I mean, because they view him as a 1199 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,720 Speaker 1: threat not just to their ideology, but to their very 1200 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,880 Speaker 1: way of life. Right, Trump is a threat to the 1201 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 1: elite's prerogatives and privileges. Yeah, I'm surprised. I mean, it 1202 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 1: really surprises me. It really amazes me. I've never in 1203 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm just surprised. They can't believe it. 1204 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, okay, I hear you, man, I mean, yeah, well, 1205 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 1: this is this is the world we're living. Unfortunately, they 1206 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,920 Speaker 1: are not going to stop until they get their man. 1207 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 1: They think their man is Trump, and they want him impeach, 1208 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,760 Speaker 1: they want him out. I only hope that Trump. I 1209 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 1: only I only think the Trump has to have roy 1210 01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,960 Speaker 1: in his own resources. I mean, there's something that anybody 1211 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 1: out in the hinterland do much except he's like, uh, 1212 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,720 Speaker 1: he's like David Golithe. I mean, you know, he's got 1213 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,120 Speaker 1: the sling shot and that's all. That's all he's got 1214 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 1: because this state monster. All right, we'll see Richard Shield time. 1215 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: My man Jamie in Florida, I heart app what's up, Jamie? Hi? 1216 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,560 Speaker 1: I have a question. I'm not great on names, but 1217 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: I listened to the Blaze all day long, and Mike 1218 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 1: Abelco was playing a clip a week or so ago 1219 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,560 Speaker 1: where the guy from the FBI was in front of 1220 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 1: a carress woman and sworn in and he was at 1221 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 1: I think he was acting director McCabe, Acting director of 1222 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 1: the FBI. McCabe. No, the one that was just fired 1223 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 1: in front of Yes call me was in front of 1224 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,719 Speaker 1: the carress woman from Hawaii and asked it any time 1225 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,400 Speaker 1: ever in the his um, you know you're working for 1226 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: the FBI, has anyone ever tried to stop you from 1227 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 1: doing an investigation? And Tay answered no. So if he 1228 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 1: can say that in front of a you know Swards 1229 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,600 Speaker 1: put into a and I hearing in front of a 1230 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:20,840 Speaker 1: congressman for cattish woman or whatever, how couldn't go back 1231 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 1: in front of you know, a Sward sentiment and said 1232 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 1: a trout trying to make me clean. But Jamie, we 1233 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,719 Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna say that right. The media 1234 01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,640 Speaker 1: is reporting on it, but we don't know. We don't know, 1235 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,040 Speaker 1: so we gotta see. But I hear you, and I 1236 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you calling in and pointing that out. Thank you 1237 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,320 Speaker 1: very much. Uh team much more coming, including uh well, 1238 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 1: fantastic calmness day with me. A massive blast in the 1239 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:05,479 Speaker 1: Afghan capital killed at least ninety people. UM, this is 1240 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,920 Speaker 1: a story that has been picked up by all the 1241 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 1: news wires that this one I'm ringing to you now 1242 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 1: from the Wall Street Journal. A truck packed with explosives 1243 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 1: detonated in the heart of the Afghan capital on Wednesday, 1244 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 1: killing at least ninety people, as the country reels from 1245 01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 1: an escalating militant campaign that is ramping a pressure on 1246 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,680 Speaker 1: the Trump administration over how to counter the violence. The 1247 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 1: massive blast struck during the morning rush hour on the 1248 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 1: outskirts of a heavily fortified part of the city known 1249 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,919 Speaker 1: as the Green Zone, where major embassies in US military 1250 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 1: headquarters are located. It was the first time a truck 1251 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,600 Speaker 1: bomb had struck in the area. It had collapsed. It 1252 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:50,000 Speaker 1: collapsed buildings, blew out glass windows, and sent a mushroom 1253 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,320 Speaker 1: cloud of smoke up over the city. In fact, I 1254 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 1: saw there was video circulating on social media of the 1255 01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 1: enormous UH explosive cloud that the cloud that formed after 1256 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 1: the explosion. UH. The Afghan Intelligence agency is reportedly saying 1257 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,120 Speaker 1: that it was the Hakani network, which is a militant 1258 01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 1: group that's tied to the Taliban. UH. This has been 1259 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,639 Speaker 1: a continuing UH. This has been a continuing threat. These 1260 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:25,599 Speaker 1: massive car bombs, of course, have major casualties that come 1261 01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,960 Speaker 1: as part of it. That's the first Your first concern 1262 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,439 Speaker 1: is just that they can kill dozens, dozens of upwards 1263 01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 1: of of a hundred people, UM. But they also are 1264 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 1: symbolic and they're meant to show the Afghan people that 1265 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:46,520 Speaker 1: nowhere is safe. And as long as you have militants 1266 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,800 Speaker 1: with the capability of getting a massive truck bomb into 1267 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 1: the single most heavily patrolled and defended area of the 1268 01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 1: capital city of this country, it's very hard to convince 1269 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,439 Speaker 1: those who hear about this because a lot of places 1270 01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan don't have internet access. In fact, a lot 1271 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 1: of them don't have electricity. UM, it is very hard 1272 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,000 Speaker 1: to convince them that there will be security provided for 1273 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:29,640 Speaker 1: them by the government. So that's one aspect of this. 1274 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:34,960 Speaker 1: I know the Trump administration is is looking um. The 1275 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,360 Speaker 1: Trump administration is looking over its Afghan policy right now, 1276 01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 1: and there are more air strikes going on than in 1277 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:50,440 Speaker 1: recent In recent years, there's a lot of military activity 1278 01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 1: going on in Afghanistan. You had the Moab drop that 1279 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,840 Speaker 1: was used against the Islamic State in Afghanistan not long ago. 1280 01:19:58,439 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 1: But as I said at the time, that was all 1281 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,440 Speaker 1: so a symbolism of sorts, right. Yes, it was effective 1282 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,559 Speaker 1: in the limited task of taking out a whole bunch 1283 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 1: of ISIS militants who were running around in a cave 1284 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:19,240 Speaker 1: complex in eastern Afghanistan. Um, but that wasn't going to 1285 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 1: change the reality on the ground. And here's what's happening. 1286 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 1: And this is classic counter or classic insurgency stuff that's 1287 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:31,520 Speaker 1: going on. The central government in Afghanistan is losing control 1288 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,479 Speaker 1: of more and more areas in well, first the hinter 1289 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,439 Speaker 1: lands and now in the rural areas. They are seeding 1290 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:45,599 Speaker 1: large parts of the country, large pieces of territory two 1291 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,960 Speaker 1: the Taliban and Taliban control and control to Taliban aligned 1292 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:56,520 Speaker 1: groups while they try to hold important cities and population 1293 01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:01,599 Speaker 1: centers with their forces. Now in a short term basis, 1294 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 1: I can understand why that would be the strategy. The 1295 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 1: problem is stalemate does not favor the central government in 1296 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 1: this case because going back to the notion of whether 1297 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,519 Speaker 1: or not people believe that you can provide security for 1298 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:20,320 Speaker 1: them if you only control the cities and not the countryside, 1299 01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 1: it becomes difficult to make the case, especially in a 1300 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 1: in a country that is quite rural like Afghanistan, that 1301 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:32,160 Speaker 1: you are really in control and the prominence of shadow governments, 1302 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,760 Speaker 1: shadow governors, Taliban figures who are running their own day 1303 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,840 Speaker 1: facto states within a state in Afghanistan, that that's growing. Uh. 1304 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,280 Speaker 1: This is going to force a very difficult Nashville conversation, 1305 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:50,439 Speaker 1: I think because the Obama administration surged and then drew 1306 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 1: down dramatically, surged to a height of over a hundred 1307 01:21:54,439 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 1: thousand US troops in Afghanistan, and then drew down forces quickly, 1308 01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 1: and that was all for the or the timetable was 1309 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:10,880 Speaker 1: on a political schedule. It was about Obama ending wars. Right, 1310 01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 1: Iraq was the bad war, Afghanistan was the good war. 1311 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,720 Speaker 1: That was the very uh, simplistic and wrongheaded logic of 1312 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,880 Speaker 1: the Obama administration coming in UM. But they wanted to 1313 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 1: show that they were winning in Afghanistan, and they had 1314 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,160 Speaker 1: one in Afghanistan, and they were going to declare that 1315 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,720 Speaker 1: combat operations were over. UM. Well, while we've gotten down 1316 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:35,640 Speaker 1: about nine thousand US troops and the coalition there is 1317 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:41,320 Speaker 1: much less active in kinetic military activity than they had 1318 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,600 Speaker 1: been in years past. Taliban has been capitalizing on this. 1319 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,880 Speaker 1: This is the problem, Um that the Taliban right now 1320 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 1: is in its strongest position, and I've bring this up 1321 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 1: with you, it's in its strongest position since two thousand 1322 01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 1: and one. You don't get the sender. There's such a 1323 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 1: focus right now on on Russia and Russia reporting, um, 1324 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,760 Speaker 1: that you hear very little about what's going on in Afghanistan, 1325 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,320 Speaker 1: where we do have US troops who are still deployed. 1326 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 1: We do still take losses. We are still taking casualties 1327 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, none of the numbers we had been because 1328 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:23,400 Speaker 1: they're not There are not as many US soldiers engage 1329 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,840 Speaker 1: in frontline combat. But of course there are still special 1330 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,680 Speaker 1: operations and other things going on that we don't know 1331 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:32,320 Speaker 1: about them. We don't talk about, um. But what are 1332 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:36,519 Speaker 1: we gonna do in Afghanist? Air Strikes are not going 1333 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 1: to do it. Air strikes are not enough, I can 1334 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 1: promise you that. And Afghanistan is a country that I 1335 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:45,679 Speaker 1: know well. Afghanistan is a country that I have spent 1336 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,160 Speaker 1: time in. And uh, there's no way that you're going 1337 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:55,680 Speaker 1: to subdue or defeat the Taliban from the air. That's 1338 01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,840 Speaker 1: just not going to happen. So that's not an option. 1339 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,599 Speaker 1: The round force that we have been building there for years, 1340 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,479 Speaker 1: many years now, over a decade, the ground forces really 1341 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:11,360 Speaker 1: of police and various military units. Afghan military units are 1342 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 1: just unlikely to be able to continue to hold ground 1343 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,479 Speaker 1: against the Taliban. I mean if we if we leave 1344 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,560 Speaker 1: and no longer can call in air cover and no 1345 01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 1: longer provide logistics and intelligence and other support to the 1346 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:30,400 Speaker 1: Afghan forces, if we don't give them any help, it's 1347 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 1: just a matter of time before a major city or 1348 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 1: two is overrun. And you see in insurgencies, once the 1349 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 1: bad guys start taking cities, then forget about the good 1350 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 1: guys who are trying to fight them, the normal folks, 1351 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:47,680 Speaker 1: everyday people, villagers, people in towns, you know, guys who 1352 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 1: are uh you know, selling stuff in the markets, guys 1353 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,760 Speaker 1: who are hurting animals out in the field. They have 1354 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,680 Speaker 1: to make a choice, and that choice becomes, do I 1355 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,719 Speaker 1: uh side with the government, Do I help the government? 1356 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,000 Speaker 1: Will I inform about Taliban positions to the police. Will 1357 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,559 Speaker 1: I let the next military convoy know that I saw 1358 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 1: an I E. D emplaced in the road, or do 1359 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,559 Speaker 1: I not do that because not that I'm an Afghan 1360 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 1: trader or not that I'd like the Taliban even at all, 1361 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,160 Speaker 1: though there's also a lot of sympathy for the Taliban 1362 01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: depending on what part of the country you're in. The 1363 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:29,400 Speaker 1: Taliban is a Pashto, a Pashto Sunni terrorist group. Um. 1364 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:34,240 Speaker 1: But so they're Sunni Muslims and they are Pashtos by 1365 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 1: by tribe, and a lot of other Pashtos are Pasto 1366 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:43,439 Speaker 1: speaking groups are like, you know, hey, uh, these guys 1367 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,880 Speaker 1: are gonna stay around no matter what. Maybe we should 1368 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,360 Speaker 1: go with them. But I'm just talking about even the 1369 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,439 Speaker 1: fence sitters, the people who are neutral, who right now 1370 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,920 Speaker 1: are looking at what happens. They might hear about this, 1371 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,000 Speaker 1: many of them obviously will, But they will hear about 1372 01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,759 Speaker 1: this enormous explosion in the center of kabbal A capital 1373 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:06,560 Speaker 1: city and think to themselves, Okay, how long can this 1374 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:10,600 Speaker 1: last before these outside powers, including the United States, just 1375 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:15,400 Speaker 1: decided that that enough is enough? Um. And like I said, 1376 01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,240 Speaker 1: the guy selling his wares in the market or hurting 1377 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,280 Speaker 1: his animals in the field has to think not just 1378 01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 1: where my loyalties lie, but how do I survive? And 1379 01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 1: once you get to that distinct, once you get to 1380 01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,240 Speaker 1: that decision making process for the average person in a 1381 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,160 Speaker 1: country where it's not a question of where their ideology 1382 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 1: takes them necessarily, that's a whole another component of this UM. 1383 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,280 Speaker 1: But when it becomes an issue of how do I 1384 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 1: not end up executed? How do I make sure my 1385 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,320 Speaker 1: family doesn't end up executed or my house burned down 1386 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,559 Speaker 1: and all my possessions taken because I am viewed as 1387 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:56,960 Speaker 1: a sympathizer, then you see that the insurgents are winning 1388 01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 1: when people are afraid because the government can protect them. 1389 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:06,439 Speaker 1: The insurgency is on the offensive, whether militarily or not. 1390 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,720 Speaker 1: The insurgency is gaining ground because this is, like so 1391 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:15,080 Speaker 1: many other things, a hearts and minds campaign. And if 1392 01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:19,840 Speaker 1: you can just instill fear into people, then you can 1393 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 1: have the same effect as if they were ideologically aligned 1394 01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,000 Speaker 1: with you, that they'll go along with you just because 1395 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:30,679 Speaker 1: they don't want to die. It's a very understandable human response. 1396 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,080 Speaker 1: We get that UM and what we're going to have 1397 01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,320 Speaker 1: to decide in this country pretty soon what the leadership 1398 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 1: is going to have to figure out. And I know 1399 01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:43,680 Speaker 1: we've got Secretary Defense Maddis and and uh, you know 1400 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:47,520 Speaker 1: General McMaster, and I know we have some very revered 1401 01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:51,000 Speaker 1: military minds and men of great service and talent in 1402 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:55,080 Speaker 1: senior national security roles. But we've had men of great 1403 01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 1: talent and all of that in in senior na security 1404 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:03,000 Speaker 1: roles and on the Pentagon, Sade and elsewhere for years. 1405 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 1: And having figured this one out, you know, Afghanistan has 1406 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:10,400 Speaker 1: not as the graveyard of empires. And people are quick 1407 01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,759 Speaker 1: to point out those who know some of the history, 1408 01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:19,360 Speaker 1: um that whether it's Alexander the Great, or the British, 1409 01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:23,840 Speaker 1: or the Russians, or you know, you pick your pick 1410 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:29,439 Speaker 1: your imperial or the Khans, even Genghis, Khans descendants, pick 1411 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 1: your major outside power and subduing and controlling Afghanistan has 1412 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:41,280 Speaker 1: seem to be largely impossible. A peaceful Afghanistan is not impossible. 1413 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,240 Speaker 1: In fact, people will tell you stories even I've I've 1414 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,479 Speaker 1: heard from people who would say that, you know, back 1415 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,360 Speaker 1: in like the sixties, you can go bicycling in Afghanistan. 1416 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,920 Speaker 1: You'd see you know, ladies walking around in blue jeans 1417 01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,120 Speaker 1: and it was fine. And then Radical Islam came along, 1418 01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:58,840 Speaker 1: but another story for another time. Well also the Soviets, 1419 01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,680 Speaker 1: but uh and Radical Islam and the country has been 1420 01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 1: destroyed ever since but what do we do in Afghanistan? 1421 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:09,360 Speaker 1: What is the fight going to be for us? Um? 1422 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,240 Speaker 1: What are we willing to do? And what what should 1423 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,920 Speaker 1: we commit to? Because if the mission is just holding pattern, 1424 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,640 Speaker 1: is that really fair? Is that really sound policy? Just 1425 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,280 Speaker 1: keep enough troops there to prevent kabble from falling to 1426 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 1: the enemy. That doesn't sound like it's enough. But are 1427 01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,599 Speaker 1: we going to send another hundred thousand troops there? Try 1428 01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,479 Speaker 1: to do the fighting for the Afghans? Let's be honest, 1429 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,080 Speaker 1: that's what it is. I don't I wouldn't want to 1430 01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 1: give that order. I wouldn't make that decision. So this 1431 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,960 Speaker 1: problem looms in the background. You don't hear a lot 1432 01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,400 Speaker 1: of policy talking about this. We're also focused on you know, 1433 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:46,479 Speaker 1: co fe fet and Trump tweets and Kathy Griffin and 1434 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,360 Speaker 1: of course Russia collusion, all of that, right, the latest 1435 01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:56,000 Speaker 1: Jared Kushner allegation about either financial or political impropriety. And 1436 01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 1: no one's talking about a war that we are still 1437 01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 1: involved in, that we are not winning, and in fact, 1438 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,519 Speaker 1: you can make a pretty clear case that we are losing, 1439 01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 1: and no one's talking about it. I mean I talked 1440 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 1: to you about it here, but it seems to just 1441 01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:15,479 Speaker 1: escape much of the news media's attention, and we have 1442 01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,720 Speaker 1: we have hard choices to make, and we're getting to 1443 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,080 Speaker 1: the point where it's gonna be like, all right, do 1444 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:21,760 Speaker 1: we just have you know, an embassy and maybe some 1445 01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,120 Speaker 1: military trainers to try to help keep things going and 1446 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:28,000 Speaker 1: see what happens, or we're gonna go guns blazing in 1447 01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:32,600 Speaker 1: a big way with large numbers. Again, that's really what 1448 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,320 Speaker 1: we're facing because the status quo is not sustainable. No, 1449 01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,120 Speaker 1: no one's speaking of it that way, but that's the truth. 1450 01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,640 Speaker 1: The status quo is not sustainable. Based on what we're 1451 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,200 Speaker 1: seeing right now. The Taliban will be taking major cities 1452 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 1: and that is going to be a nightmare. And it 1453 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 1: means that it means eventually, I think the government will 1454 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,120 Speaker 1: fall and then imagine what we're gonna be dealing with 1455 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,519 Speaker 1: and Taliban could be in charge again. All right, I 1456 01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,639 Speaker 1: got ahead to break your team. We will be right back. 1457 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:12,960 Speaker 1: Scott in Florida, w f l A. How you doing, Hey, 1458 01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,760 Speaker 1: we love your showdown here. Man, You're awesome, Thank you, brother, 1459 01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:19,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Hey man, this Korean funny man, I 1460 01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,439 Speaker 1: won't see him. Get it on, man, finish it, um 1461 01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, they should have finished it, uh in the 1462 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,960 Speaker 1: fifties with General mc carthor, and they kicked the can 1463 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:32,519 Speaker 1: down road to sixty seventy years or whatever. Yeah, as 1464 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:37,479 Speaker 1: far as Afghanistan sixteen years, what would Patton do? I 1465 01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,479 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I I say when I say 1466 01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,640 Speaker 1: Scott that that I think that we have uncomfortable questions 1467 01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,719 Speaker 1: about Afghanistan that we need to face. I don't pretend 1468 01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,960 Speaker 1: to have the answers. I know what isn't gonna work, 1469 01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,160 Speaker 1: which is that no one pays any attention to this, 1470 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,599 Speaker 1: and the Taliban just keeps increasing its share of control 1471 01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,080 Speaker 1: of the country year in and year out right that 1472 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,240 Speaker 1: that only goes to one place, and it's a bad place. 1473 01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,920 Speaker 1: They've been doing this for thousands of years. Take your 1474 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,840 Speaker 1: hands off of it. Let them continue to do what 1475 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,720 Speaker 1: they do. Just like Trump said, we're not gonna bring 1476 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,760 Speaker 1: the monks here. The monks they won't work in Afghanistan. Well, 1477 01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,680 Speaker 1: that where we need to be prepared for the possibility 1478 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,960 Speaker 1: that the Taliban will be in control officially, in control 1479 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,840 Speaker 1: of version say officially, but I mean you know, de 1480 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:29,559 Speaker 1: facto government in part of of Afghanistan, and eventually could 1481 01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,640 Speaker 1: could take the whole thing again. I mean it might 1482 01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,920 Speaker 1: that might be five or ten years out, but that 1483 01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,240 Speaker 1: would not be surprising to me. If that's where that's 1484 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:40,200 Speaker 1: where this went, well we shouldn't be any more blood 1485 01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:44,040 Speaker 1: or money poured into it. It just shouldn't be. Look, 1486 01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,479 Speaker 1: if that's the answer. As a country, if it's that, 1487 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,960 Speaker 1: we need to go scott Yeah, that, but then we 1488 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,400 Speaker 1: should go right, we should say all right, look that's it. 1489 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:55,240 Speaker 1: No no more, no more surges, no more major deployments. 1490 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,639 Speaker 1: You know, it's up to the Afghan people to fight there, 1491 01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,960 Speaker 1: to fight this battle. And look, there other failed states 1492 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,599 Speaker 1: where we haven't invaded and there's been a terrorist present there, 1493 01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:07,240 Speaker 1: and we just try to do a CT first, counter 1494 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,160 Speaker 1: terrorism first strategy whereby we contained the degree we can. 1495 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,800 Speaker 1: But of course Afghanistan has a particular residence as an 1496 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 1: incubator for terrorism because of nine eleven. Right, So that's 1497 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 1: why it's I think it's hard for the American psyche 1498 01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,639 Speaker 1: to walk away from an Afghanistan where the Taliban may 1499 01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,840 Speaker 1: take charge and play host to global g hottists again, 1500 01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Can anybody give us a victory, 1501 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,920 Speaker 1: a victory just like World War Two? Can anybody give 1502 01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:42,040 Speaker 1: us a victory. I love Maddis. I love him, and uh, 1503 01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,519 Speaker 1: you know, I just really hope. Yeah, I look, I 1504 01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:46,840 Speaker 1: hope so too. Maddis is a is a much smarter 1505 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,600 Speaker 1: guy on these things than I am. So you know, 1506 01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,240 Speaker 1: maybe he's got a great plan and I don't I 1507 01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:56,240 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. But well, to total war 1508 01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,680 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, is is is a tough thing because you 1509 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:00,960 Speaker 1: end up spending a lot of and Scott, thank you 1510 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:02,800 Speaker 1: for a shield time man, thank you for calling in. 1511 01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:06,639 Speaker 1: You know, you end up dropping a lot of very 1512 01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:13,880 Speaker 1: expensive ordinance on very low techt structures. And you know 1513 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:18,560 Speaker 1: there's no shortage of of Taliban fighters out there. And 1514 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,000 Speaker 1: as long as you know, one of the main issues, 1515 01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,040 Speaker 1: and this doesn't really often get to discuss, one of 1516 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,479 Speaker 1: the main problems with our whole strategy is as long 1517 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:31,880 Speaker 1: as Pakistan exists as a sanctuary for Taliban and Hakani 1518 01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,600 Speaker 1: and other extra other g hottists. Uh, and they know 1519 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,040 Speaker 1: that we really can't get them on the Pakistani side 1520 01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,600 Speaker 1: of the border, and they have all kinds of of 1521 01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:44,479 Speaker 1: support on that side of the border. Um, as long 1522 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:48,200 Speaker 1: as they can do that, we can never truly eradicate 1523 01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,799 Speaker 1: the Taliban. And when you can eradicate something like the Taliban, 1524 01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:55,040 Speaker 1: and it can always essentially go into a little cross 1525 01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:59,720 Speaker 1: border exile, get stronger and come back. Um, you're not 1526 01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,840 Speaker 1: going defeat it. So I I don't pretend to have 1527 01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:04,519 Speaker 1: an answer on this, but I do know that what 1528 01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:08,720 Speaker 1: we're doing can't continue. And I think that there's it's 1529 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,400 Speaker 1: just a matter of time now before we find out 1530 01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:14,799 Speaker 1: what the strategy review of african But keep mind, Obama 1531 01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,080 Speaker 1: did a strategy review of Afghanistan. No. I know you're 1532 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,200 Speaker 1: saying what that was, Obama, but you know we've been 1533 01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,920 Speaker 1: here before, and and Obama decided to surge and withdraw 1534 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:24,639 Speaker 1: at the same time. Right, I'm gonna surge, but I'm 1535 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 1: gonna tell you when the withdrawal is, which was not wise, 1536 01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,200 Speaker 1: but there were political considerations there. I mean, he was 1537 01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,880 Speaker 1: fighting as commander chief President Obama was fighting Afghanistan with 1538 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,000 Speaker 1: an eye towards his approval ratings the whole time. And 1539 01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:42,679 Speaker 1: that just doesn't work. Um, that's unfortunately. One the legacies 1540 01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,760 Speaker 1: of the obaministration is that they allowed such a deterioration 1541 01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:50,679 Speaker 1: to occur in both Iraq and Afghanistan on his watch. 1542 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,479 Speaker 1: But perhaps more of a discussion for another time. Mean 1543 01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,080 Speaker 1: some of it now, but more of a discussion for 1544 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,080 Speaker 1: another time. I want to talk to you a bit 1545 01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:02,680 Speaker 1: about uh, well, yes, I'll talk to you about um 1546 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,120 Speaker 1: Kathy Griffin. But but first before we get into Kathy Griffins, 1547 01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:07,800 Speaker 1: because I'm sure a lot of you like Buck. You know, 1548 01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,679 Speaker 1: she's an idiot and she messed up and you know whatever. 1549 01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,160 Speaker 1: Getting out a little later, But first I want to 1550 01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:17,160 Speaker 1: talk to about Venezuela, UM, which is still not getting 1551 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:21,360 Speaker 1: nearly enough. Like Afghanistan, Venezuela also does not get enough 1552 01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,720 Speaker 1: media attention. And that's why I hope people who listen 1553 01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,400 Speaker 1: to this show, who join me the Freedom Hunt, appreciate 1554 01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,000 Speaker 1: that we cover things that matter that other people don't. 1555 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:44,040 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Why don't we hear more about 1556 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 1: the socialist catastrophe that is Venezuela And why is it that, 1557 01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:53,080 Speaker 1: given what's going on there, you have riots in the streets, 1558 01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:57,800 Speaker 1: you have protesters squaring off with security forces, Molotov cocktails 1559 01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:03,160 Speaker 1: being thrown, violence despay or poverty lines for water, shortages 1560 01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:09,160 Speaker 1: of food, shortages of medicine, a totalitarian thug accracy oppressing 1561 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:13,560 Speaker 1: a people in our own hemisphere. Why is it that 1562 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:18,280 Speaker 1: you so rarely see a news story on any of 1563 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:26,240 Speaker 1: the cable networks save one about Venezuela. It kind of befuddles, 1564 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,519 Speaker 1: doesn't it Isn't it? Isn't it a bit of a 1565 01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,120 Speaker 1: mystery at first until you think more about it, and 1566 01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:35,320 Speaker 1: then at all makes perfect sense. Venezuela should be a 1567 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:39,160 Speaker 1: new story. I had tip the Media Research Center for 1568 01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:44,559 Speaker 1: a report by Mike uh Ciandela which says the following 1569 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,800 Speaker 1: the big three evening newscasts have tried to pretend this 1570 01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:52,160 Speaker 1: crisis does not exist, offering virtually no coverage as a 1571 01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:56,360 Speaker 1: situation has deteriorated over the past four years. A new 1572 01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,559 Speaker 1: study by the Media Research Center found that from March 1573 01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:04,280 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, after the death of strongman Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, 1574 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:10,000 Speaker 1: through May seventeen, the ABC, CBS and NBC evening news 1575 01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:14,479 Speaker 1: shows have aired a mere twenty five stories totaling twenty 1576 01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:19,800 Speaker 1: eight minutes thirty nine seconds of coverage, which translates to 1577 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:26,400 Speaker 1: thirty nine or thirty seconds per month on Venezuela. In 1578 01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:30,040 Speaker 1: the same time period, approximately fifty thousand individual news stories 1579 01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:34,559 Speaker 1: on other topics aired on these broadcasts. So and look, 1580 01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,320 Speaker 1: I know it's a big world, and this is a 1581 01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,800 Speaker 1: foreign news story. And oftentimes one of one of the 1582 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:43,560 Speaker 1: complaints that you will hear about American news coverage is 1583 01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:47,679 Speaker 1: that it is uh not focused enough on foreign issues. 1584 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,880 Speaker 1: But then again, shouldn't we care more about what's happening 1585 01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,400 Speaker 1: in our own country? Of course? But people always say this, right, 1586 01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:58,120 Speaker 1: And this is why sophisticates out there, Hello, the fancy people, 1587 01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,840 Speaker 1: well do they like They like to BEBC, but not 1588 01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:05,840 Speaker 1: even just the BBC. They like BBC International because they 1589 01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,360 Speaker 1: really want to know about the latest parliamentary elections in 1590 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:16,040 Speaker 1: But swanna all the machinations of the economic minister of Azerbaijan. 1591 01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 1: We don't care about that stuff quite as much. I 1592 01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:24,040 Speaker 1: think that's fair to say we care more about America. 1593 01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,080 Speaker 1: But this is a criticism often here. But this is 1594 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:31,080 Speaker 1: why it's different. Uh. Well, For one, this is a 1595 01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:36,000 Speaker 1: story about a country that should be wealthy, um, should 1596 01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,160 Speaker 1: be doing quite well, has the largest proven oil reserves 1597 01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,200 Speaker 1: in the world, which is the equivalent of having a 1598 01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:46,320 Speaker 1: giant a t M machine within your sovereign territory. Um, 1599 01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,000 Speaker 1: and and it is in it is a failed state now, 1600 01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean it is in crisis. It is in absolute desperation. 1601 01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,320 Speaker 1: It is spiraling and getting worse with each passing week. 1602 01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,160 Speaker 1: There is an opposition movement, there is a strong man. 1603 01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 1: There are protesters in the streets. There are jack booted 1604 01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,160 Speaker 1: thugs pulling people out of their homes. People are being killed. 1605 01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:10,640 Speaker 1: This is in our own hemisphere, This is in America's backyard, 1606 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:15,360 Speaker 1: so to speak, and not a lot of media coverage 1607 01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,400 Speaker 1: of it at all. Sure, they'll be items from the 1608 01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:22,479 Speaker 1: international bureaus of various newspapers on it, and I'm not 1609 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,880 Speaker 1: saying there's a blackout on it. But isn't this a 1610 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,720 Speaker 1: bigger story than we're hearing about? I mean, given how 1611 01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:33,479 Speaker 1: much attention is paid to the latest most minute update 1612 01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:37,120 Speaker 1: on all things Russia, isn't it at least conceivable that 1613 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:42,040 Speaker 1: we could find something here, uh, to take away from 1614 01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:47,200 Speaker 1: this beyond just understanding the terrible situation that the Venezuelan 1615 01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:51,519 Speaker 1: people find themselves in. You see, there's an ideological reason 1616 01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:55,839 Speaker 1: for this. The idea, the ideological bias of the media 1617 01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:02,120 Speaker 1: is showing here. They were, by and large, many of them. 1618 01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:05,120 Speaker 1: I am speaking in generalities, I know, but there were 1619 01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:09,960 Speaker 1: many members of the elite media who applauded or at 1620 01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:15,639 Speaker 1: least tried to justify and always look on the bright 1621 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:21,600 Speaker 1: side of the Hugo Chavez regime and then its success or, 1622 01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:28,000 Speaker 1: the Maduro regime. So they were saying things originally about 1623 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:32,040 Speaker 1: how well, of course this was social justice. So uh, 1624 01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:36,000 Speaker 1: this is why you would have people writing in places 1625 01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:39,479 Speaker 1: like The Nation, for example, after Hugo Shaves died. The 1626 01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,559 Speaker 1: Nation is one of these leftist websites that I would 1627 01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 1: never recommend you go to except as a form of 1628 01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:49,679 Speaker 1: understanding how crazy the intellectuals of the left, the self 1629 01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:54,519 Speaker 1: styled and self described intellectuals on the left actually are 1630 01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:59,200 Speaker 1: and how how disconnected from reality they are. Um. But 1631 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,800 Speaker 1: there's a piece on the Nation back in when Hugo Chavez, 1632 01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:10,320 Speaker 1: who really got this whole revolution, this this Bolavarian revolution 1633 01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,280 Speaker 1: that he promised, started, which is really just a grandiose 1634 01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:18,479 Speaker 1: way of saying, uh, state is m with social justice 1635 01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:23,720 Speaker 1: attributes and redistribution of wealth. But Chaves started and you 1636 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:28,160 Speaker 1: have the Nation riting quote on the legacy of Yugoshavez. Yes, 1637 01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,600 Speaker 1: the Venezuelan president could be a strong man, but he 1638 01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:35,080 Speaker 1: leaves behind what might be called the most democratic country 1639 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:40,120 Speaker 1: in the Western hemisphere. You had people whose only job 1640 01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:43,680 Speaker 1: is to know what's going on in the world, to 1641 01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:48,080 Speaker 1: speak truth to power, to understand complex situations and share 1642 01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:50,840 Speaker 1: them and share annalysis with the American people. You had 1643 01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,960 Speaker 1: plenty of and they were all on the left. This 1644 01:42:55,160 --> 01:43:02,360 Speaker 1: was a leftist only shortcoming failure. Uh. They were speaking 1645 01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,840 Speaker 1: as nicely as they could about Chavez. They were always 1646 01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:09,719 Speaker 1: trying to take some position on Chavez that would allow 1647 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,360 Speaker 1: them to virtue signal, right, I care about social justice. Therefore, 1648 01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,200 Speaker 1: sure Chavez does some things that are bad. And then 1649 01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:20,559 Speaker 1: after him, sure Nicholas Maduro the president of the current 1650 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,519 Speaker 1: president of Venezuela while it has gone into the seventh 1651 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,760 Speaker 1: circle of hell. Um. Sure he's not perfect, but you 1652 01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,439 Speaker 1: know his intentions are good. And this is all about 1653 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:34,160 Speaker 1: alleviating poverty and government programs coming to the aid of 1654 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:37,920 Speaker 1: the most desperately poor. So they would take that tone 1655 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,040 Speaker 1: and they would mock the naysayers who pointed out that 1656 01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:45,719 Speaker 1: government control and this is the center of this crisis, 1657 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:49,240 Speaker 1: by the way, government control and then the mechanism the 1658 01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:53,799 Speaker 1: tool of destruction in Venezuela. And this is a lesson 1659 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,200 Speaker 1: for all of us, my friends, whether it's health care 1660 01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,720 Speaker 1: or education, or you name it. In this country. That's 1661 01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,560 Speaker 1: why Venezuela matters, because it tells us things that we 1662 01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:06,120 Speaker 1: need to know for our own governance. It is the 1663 01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:11,240 Speaker 1: experiment played out beyond our borders from which we can 1664 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:18,000 Speaker 1: learn the government had too much control. The government claimed 1665 01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:24,799 Speaker 1: a revolutionary mandate via redistribution of wealth, and the weapon 1666 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:30,840 Speaker 1: of that redistribution was simple price controls. Bread no longer 1667 01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:34,479 Speaker 1: costs what it costs. Bread costs what the Chavez and 1668 01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:40,720 Speaker 1: then Maduro governments said it costs. Well, that creates shortages. Well, 1669 01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:42,760 Speaker 1: then when people get mad about the shortages, what does 1670 01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:47,439 Speaker 1: the Venezuelan government do. Blames the fat cat capitalists, seizes 1671 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,960 Speaker 1: the factory, says we'll do a better job. You better 1672 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,000 Speaker 1: produce the bread of that price or else. But they 1673 01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:56,880 Speaker 1: can't because of the laws of economics, and there's even 1674 01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,400 Speaker 1: greater shortages, and it goes beyond that. Then it's water, 1675 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:03,080 Speaker 1: than it's medicine, Then it's uh, then it's household machinery, 1676 01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:07,439 Speaker 1: then it's it just goes into everything. People can't buy 1677 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:11,440 Speaker 1: what they need to buy, and then you have economic 1678 01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:17,759 Speaker 1: crises piled upon economic crisis um economic crisis one after another, 1679 01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:23,400 Speaker 1: and all the while the government doing two things, taking 1680 01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:28,080 Speaker 1: more control and making more excuses. As the government takes 1681 01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,880 Speaker 1: more control, that tramples more rights. As it tramples more rights, 1682 01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,680 Speaker 1: there's a greater backlash. In response to that backlash, it 1683 01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:37,240 Speaker 1: takes more control, and therefore you see the downward spiral, 1684 01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,720 Speaker 1: the cycle in which Venezuela finds itself right now. It 1685 01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:45,280 Speaker 1: is a cautionary tale that should be told, that should 1686 01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:48,519 Speaker 1: be broadcast on the major networks in this country on 1687 01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:51,639 Speaker 1: a regular basis, or at least more than once every 1688 01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:58,800 Speaker 1: few months, But they don't because they believe that this 1689 01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,760 Speaker 1: is not helpful to the cause of social justice. To 1690 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:09,560 Speaker 1: show that social justice aspirations and state control can completely 1691 01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:16,280 Speaker 1: and utterly devastate a country and turn it into a hellhole, well, 1692 01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:20,120 Speaker 1: that's just something that the media can't abide. That's something 1693 01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,960 Speaker 1: they can't get behind. And also, of course, the worry 1694 01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:25,680 Speaker 1: that some of us may poke around on Google and 1695 01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:29,439 Speaker 1: figure out where they stood on these issues before it 1696 01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,400 Speaker 1: all came crashing down, and you'll see that our media 1697 01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:36,559 Speaker 1: was far too favorable by and large towards the social 1698 01:46:36,680 --> 01:47:01,720 Speaker 1: justice dictator, Hugo Chavez. We'll be right back fairly apologize. 1699 01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:04,120 Speaker 1: I am just now seeing the reaction of these images. 1700 01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:07,639 Speaker 1: I'm a comic. I crossed the line. I move the line. 1701 01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,160 Speaker 1: Then I crossed it. I went way too far. The 1702 01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,960 Speaker 1: image is too disturbing. I understand how it offends people. 1703 01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't funny. I get it. I've made a lot 1704 01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,920 Speaker 1: of mistakes in my career. I will continue. I asked 1705 01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,560 Speaker 1: your forgiveness taking down the image. Going to ask the 1706 01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,040 Speaker 1: photographer to take down the image, and I beg for 1707 01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:30,400 Speaker 1: your forgiveness. I went too far. That is comedian Kathy Griffin, 1708 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:33,400 Speaker 1: not a particularly funny comedian, but neither here nor there, 1709 01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 1: I suppose for the purposes of our discussion right now. 1710 01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:42,200 Speaker 1: She Um posted a photo from a photo shoot, I 1711 01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:45,880 Speaker 1: should note, not something that just happened spur of the moment, 1712 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:51,200 Speaker 1: not some out of nowhere selfie that was ill advised. 1713 01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,639 Speaker 1: She posted a photo, as you have no doubt heard 1714 01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:58,320 Speaker 1: and may have seen, a gruesome photo showing her having 1715 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:03,280 Speaker 1: having well the head of the president, the bloody head 1716 01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,680 Speaker 1: of President Trump in her hand. It was really gruesome, man, 1717 01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:11,679 Speaker 1: and there was nothing even remotely funny about it. In fact, 1718 01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:17,160 Speaker 1: it's grotesque, and also Um could be seen understandably legally 1719 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:20,400 Speaker 1: speaking as a threat against the president. Now, I don't 1720 01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:24,400 Speaker 1: think Kathy Griffin herself was trying to threaten the president. 1721 01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:28,800 Speaker 1: But part of the law about not making threats to 1722 01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:31,599 Speaker 1: while the president United States. UM. And there are also 1723 01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:35,080 Speaker 1: some laws regarding other federal officials. You know, you can't 1724 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,720 Speaker 1: threaten a federal judge. But but part of the reason 1725 01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,040 Speaker 1: the laws exist is also because we don't want a 1726 01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:46,120 Speaker 1: climate in which people are seeing that and made to 1727 01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,240 Speaker 1: think in some way that it is to borrow a 1728 01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:51,639 Speaker 1: term from the left, normalize. Now, yesterday when I talked 1729 01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:53,240 Speaker 1: to you about this, and I closed the show with it, 1730 01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:56,439 Speaker 1: and I'm home closing the show again today with a comedian, 1731 01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,280 Speaker 1: it's not funny. Um. But yesterday when I closed the show, 1732 01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:03,800 Speaker 1: I thought that she would most likely just apologize for 1733 01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:08,479 Speaker 1: this and there would be no consequences for her, um, 1734 01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,920 Speaker 1: And that this was a publicity stunt, which it clearly was. 1735 01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,120 Speaker 1: It's just a publicity stunt stunt that has gone awry. 1736 01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,960 Speaker 1: That old chestnut of wisdom that there's no such thing 1737 01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:21,960 Speaker 1: as bad publicity is clearly not true. Uh. Talked to 1738 01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,960 Speaker 1: Anthony Weiner about that. Talk to any number of people 1739 01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:29,519 Speaker 1: about bad publicity that has ruined their careers. Um, I 1740 01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:32,759 Speaker 1: don't know what will happen with this comedian Kathy Griffin 1741 01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:37,920 Speaker 1: after this, but I do know that CNN has decided 1742 01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:41,160 Speaker 1: that she will no longer appear as part of their 1743 01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:45,400 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve coverage, which I you know, I don't 1744 01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,240 Speaker 1: know what to say. I didn't watch this, I'm not 1745 01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,160 Speaker 1: familiar with it, but quote, CNN has terminated our agreement 1746 01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,479 Speaker 1: with Kathy Griffin to appear on our New Year's Eve programs, 1747 01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:58,240 Speaker 1: according to a CNN spokesman. Now, President Trump has said 1748 01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,759 Speaker 1: that Kathy Griffin should be a shame aimed of herself. 1749 01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,680 Speaker 1: My children, especially my eleven year old son Barren, are 1750 01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:07,120 Speaker 1: having a hard time with this sick He tweeted that out, 1751 01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:11,000 Speaker 1: and the First Lady also issued a statement Melania Trump 1752 01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:13,559 Speaker 1: quote as a mother, a wife, and a human being, 1753 01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:16,439 Speaker 1: that photo is very disturbing. Yeah it is. And like 1754 01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:21,280 Speaker 1: I played Griffin's apology because well it's a follow up 1755 01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:23,639 Speaker 1: to the story because last night I thought that maybe 1756 01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,560 Speaker 1: she would be able to apologize with less consequences. I 1757 01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:29,240 Speaker 1: knew she was gonna have to apologize. Um, but the 1758 01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:34,080 Speaker 1: left did pretty quickly, uh condemn this, so they're by 1759 01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:36,880 Speaker 1: and large, not everybody, but by and large, UM, So 1760 01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:41,040 Speaker 1: there are lines even for them. For a a celebrity 1761 01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,240 Speaker 1: who is in good standing with the Democrat Party and 1762 01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:48,800 Speaker 1: a celebrity who clearly UM thinks that she has a 1763 01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,320 Speaker 1: special license to push buttons and and go to go 1764 01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:56,759 Speaker 1: into places, go to places with her comedy quote unquote 1765 01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:59,120 Speaker 1: UM that others would get into a lot of trouble 1766 01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:03,120 Speaker 1: for UM. So she did get intro. She she did 1767 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:06,040 Speaker 1: manage to a mess mess up her career with this, 1768 01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:11,360 Speaker 1: that's for sure. But also I try to be very 1769 01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:16,439 Speaker 1: forgiving about people, especially when it comes to public figures, 1770 01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:18,920 Speaker 1: people who are trying to push boundaries. You know, I 1771 01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:20,920 Speaker 1: do a three hour radio show every day, and as 1772 01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:23,400 Speaker 1: I've said before, at some point I'm going to mess 1773 01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,200 Speaker 1: up and say something that I shouldn't or that I 1774 01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:30,000 Speaker 1: didn't intend to. Um. People make mistakes, and so I 1775 01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:32,639 Speaker 1: like to be consistent in that. I believe that people 1776 01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:35,840 Speaker 1: want to deserve second chances whenever there's room for it, 1777 01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:39,280 Speaker 1: and I'll get to that in a second. And to that, 1778 01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't like the outrage mobs that come for everybody, 1779 01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:46,240 Speaker 1: especially because the outrage mob tends to come much quicker 1780 01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:50,479 Speaker 1: and with more ferocity against those on the right, So 1781 01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:53,400 Speaker 1: conservatives have no leeway. I mean, I don't even have 1782 01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:55,280 Speaker 1: to do the thought experiment with you, but I guess 1783 01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:59,919 Speaker 1: I'm doing it now. Of a similar situation a comedian, 1784 01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,200 Speaker 1: but the head in the comedian's hand belonged to Barack 1785 01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:08,519 Speaker 1: Obama instead of Donald Trump. We all recognize that there 1786 01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,839 Speaker 1: was I think there actually would be a prison sentence 1787 01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:15,320 Speaker 1: attached to that. I think we all recognize that the 1788 01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:19,840 Speaker 1: outcry would have been um well, it would have been 1789 01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,120 Speaker 1: a completed and utter frenzy for the person responsible to 1790 01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:28,439 Speaker 1: be not just shouted down, but but punished. So uh, 1791 01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,880 Speaker 1: there is that double standard that still exists. But I 1792 01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,800 Speaker 1: think here we see that there are lines that even 1793 01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:38,560 Speaker 1: the left cannot cross with impunity. I do believe in 1794 01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:42,559 Speaker 1: second chances. I do believe that somebody should be um 1795 01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:46,280 Speaker 1: allowed to apologize and move on with his or her life. 1796 01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,120 Speaker 1: But in this case, I've got to tell you, Uh, 1797 01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,439 Speaker 1: this isn't a kind of sort of This isn't a 1798 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,120 Speaker 1: close call, This wasn't a spur of the moment, this 1799 01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:58,040 Speaker 1: wasn't a slip of the lip. This wasn't you know, 1800 01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:03,720 Speaker 1: just a miss, a misstep or a misspoken statement. This 1801 01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:09,439 Speaker 1: was something much worse. Uh, there was forethought in this. 1802 01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:11,840 Speaker 1: This was a photo shoot. The photos were taken, the 1803 01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,599 Speaker 1: photos were they looked at the proofs afterwards, they picked 1804 01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,880 Speaker 1: the photo they wanted. They shared the photo widely. They 1805 01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:22,240 Speaker 1: had many hours before the outrage reached the fever pitch 1806 01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:25,760 Speaker 1: at which they decided to bring it down. There is 1807 01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,400 Speaker 1: judgment that is so bad that there really aren't any 1808 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,240 Speaker 1: second chances that should be given. And when you're talking 1809 01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:34,760 Speaker 1: about a comedian, and the second chance here would just 1810 01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,559 Speaker 1: be should she have a career in the public eye 1811 01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:41,080 Speaker 1: making millions of dollars and working in what is an 1812 01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:44,759 Speaker 1: incredibly difficult and competitive business. And I think the answer 1813 01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,000 Speaker 1: to that is that, you know, this may have and 1814 01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,080 Speaker 1: should have some real impact on her career. And I 1815 01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,560 Speaker 1: usually don't say that about people that make mistakes. But 1816 01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:56,760 Speaker 1: this wasn't a good faith there. This was disgraceful um. 1817 01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:00,599 Speaker 1: And she is being held to account by either by 1818 01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,800 Speaker 1: evens yes, I'll say it, even by some on the left. 1819 01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:06,920 Speaker 1: So that's the update to that story. Team. I am 1820 01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:11,160 Speaker 1: planning a deep dive on the h Islamic state in 1821 01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,920 Speaker 1: the Philippines the probably for tomorrow so I'm looking forward 1822 01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,000 Speaker 1: to getting into that with you. Um please check out 1823 01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,000 Speaker 1: buck Sex and dot com. We've had great pieces on 1824 01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,800 Speaker 1: it all week. Also go to buck Sex In with 1825 01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:25,160 Speaker 1: America now on iTunes. Click subscribe. 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