WEBVTT - Episode 429: Another Report About The Mariners Trading A Starter: Should We Believe It? + MLB Draft Reaction 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:00.760 What's up, guys. 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.360 Just a reminder coming up in a couple weeks, Tuesday, 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.960 July twenty eighth, we have our next Mariners event. We're 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:08.760 doing a trivia night back at the Emerald Queen Casino 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.160 at EQC. It'll be at six pm again on Tuesday, 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.680 July twenty eighth, So come with your ball knowledge. We're 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.200 gonna be doing Mariners trivia. Then we're gonna be sticking 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.520 around to watch Mariner's Dodgers with you guys. So Marquis series, 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:22.880 what a perfect time to have an event. Come hang 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.799 out with us, answer some baseball questions, win some great 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.800 prizes courtesy of the EQC, and then come on out 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.960 and watch Mariner's Dodgers with us as well. So it's 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.440 gonna be an awesome event. The last one was a blast. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.160 We can't wait to see you guys at this one. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.080 That's Tuesday, July twenty eighth, six pm at the Emerald 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:39.720 Queen Casino. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:40.879 Welcome to episode. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.239 Number four, twenty nine of the Marine Layer podcast. 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And then find us on social media. 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.600 We're posting content everywhere every single day at Marine Layer Pod. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:21.960 Let's get it rolling. 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.039 And we will come to this episode of the Marine 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:41.040 Layer Podcast, part of the Just Baseball podcast network, recording 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:45.320 here on Sunday evening, July twelfth. It is a much 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.840 calmer atmosphere for us around the drafts when the Mariners 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.120 are not picking number three. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:51.160 Overall, I gotta. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.440 Say, well, some of that's fun, some of that isn't. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.640 You don't get to get as fired up about a 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.800 pick like Kate Anderson, which they again essentially into last 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:02.160 year in the draft, which was amazing. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.160 Just a comparison from this year to last year. 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.080 Last year, we're like refreshing Twitter as fast as humanly 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.280 possible to see who they would pick. And this year, 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.359 I mean, I think we saw the pick like ten 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:13.160 minutes after. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.639 It happened, right, which is fine. 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.720 But that's more what we did this year is more 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.960 so the natural progression of the MLB Draft. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:22.120 If I was at. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.480 Home, I'd probably watch on TV because I'd be interested 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.360 to see who they're gonna pick. But when you're roaming 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.760 around All Star Week in Philly like we are all week, 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.359 there's a lot going on. There's not always as much 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.320 time to just sit and watch every pick of the draft. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.640 So yeah, we were following online and we saw the 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.480 Mariners take Ace Reese as we're walking around, which, by 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.079 the way, if you want all our thoughts on All 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.800 Star Week, we can do that for Friday's pod. We 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:46.960 are recording this one a little bit early, just with 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.120 all the chaos that happens with our schedule and in 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.120 Philadelphia during All Star Week, like it does every year 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.120 in terms of how hectic our schedule gets. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:56.919 But we will give you a. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.040 Full All Star Week recap on Friday's episode as we 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.440 get you guys ready for the second half of the. 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.640 Year because the Derby hasn't happened yet and the All 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.520 Star Game hasn't happened yet as we're recording this. So 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.960 even though you're hearing it after those have happened for 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.160 us yet in the past, those have not happened yet. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.600 And again, there's just not much going on for the 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.680 Mariners at this year's All Star week. Cal's not in 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.320 the Derby. The Mariners have one guy here in Randy 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.839 A Rosarina. There's just I don't think there's that much 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:22.840 to recap. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.200 Right, But what we do have to recap, and what 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.640 we could talk about is who the Mariners have picked 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.000 so far, and as I have actually we have not 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.400 mentioned this. Joe Doyle will be on next Wednesday's episode, 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.400 So a week from today, as you're hearing this, love 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.040 Joe Doyle on. He will have a much better, much 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.200 more in depth breakdown of this Mariner's draft class. And 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.200 I will just give our initial thoughts of the first 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.320 couple of picks here on this podcast. So let's start 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.760 with the first pick, Ace Rees. He plays in the 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.760 SEC or played in the SEC. He's a third baseman 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.160 for Mississippi State. The dude mashes I mean, he has 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.240 hit every single year of college. He's spent his first 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.200 year at Houston, he spent the next two at Mississippi 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.040 State with ops's over eleven hundred. And he does something 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.520 very few college hitters do. He hit over twenty home 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.240 runs in back to back seasons. So it's pretty clear 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:16.480 this dude can really, really, really mash. 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:21.080 And I'm sure that's what intrigued the Mariners. I mean, now, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.920 there's probably a few different reasons this pick got made. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.120 It's very unlike the Mariners to make a pick like this. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:28.120 I mean, they. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:32.200 Haven't drafted a college infielder, or really an infielder with 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.440 their first pick. They have not drafted a infielder college 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:40.040 infielder with their first pick since even White twenty seventeen. 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.240 They drafted Luke Stevenson in the first round. Technically last 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.000 year it was in the supplemental first round with the Compicks, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.000 but they haven't drafted a college infielder with their first 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.840 pick since even White. They've gone away from this strategy 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.600 for a long time. They've taken a lot of college 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.120 pitchers and a lot of high school hitters. And if 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.040 you're looking at why they likely took Ace Reese. The 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.239 reason why they like the player is, I'm sure the power, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.880 I'm sure the ability to leave the ballpark. I'm sure 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.400 the ability to do damage hopefully one day in the 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.400 middle of the lineup if everything goes right, and when 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.760 you see twenty home run power in college. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:15.280 It's gonna jump out. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.200 You see eleven hundred oh pss in college, it's gonna 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.320 jump out. And look, we'll get into some of the concerns, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:22.360 but those are the positives. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:24.800 There's a lot of damage from the left side. I 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.960 think the way he fits in the Mariners farm system 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.039 is kind of what they're lacking right now in the middle. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:31.919 Part of the Mariners farm. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:36.720 There's not this incredibly like high floor top ten Mariners 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.599 prospect roaming in either High A or Double A right now. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.440 As a hitter, I mean, Luke Stevenson is still pretty 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.000 I mean pretty raw. I mean, he's probably the closest 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.960 to that. But if they could add a second version 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.160 of Luke Stevenson in this Mariners farm system to be 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.840 sort of step step first step with Luke up through 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.440 the minor leagues as a couple of hitters to sort 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.640 of supplement this Mariner's roster into the future, probably in 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.560 twenty twenty eight is when we would see those guys, 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.680 most likely from a bat perspective. But the Mariners just 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.200 in Double A especially don't have a ton of bats, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.479 and ace Rees looks like a guy next year could 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.119 be in Double A at some point because this guy's 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.200 just hit. The only concern with him is that is contact, 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.800 not making enough contact. It is kind of ironic how 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.120 he kind of fits exactly what the Mariner's problem is 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:28.919 right now at the big league level, or it's like 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.760 two left handed not always making enough contact. But regardless, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.720 that's a conversation for when Aceries is actually at the 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:37.960 big league level because he's got a lot of developing 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:39.920 left to do. This guy is going to do some 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.159 damage for the Mariners and I'm pretty excited for that. 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.320 Yeah, they have not drafted many true power bats early 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.200 in the first round. You've seen him draft Kyle Lewis athlete, 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.160 Evan White athlete, and he was supposed to be a 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.440 wizard of a first baseman defensively. It's just unfortunately for 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.559 both of those two guys, and Lewis and Evan White, 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.880 injuries cut those career, cut their careers way short, and 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.040 it is really unfortunate because they had a chance to 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.880 be pretty unique players, both of them. But then since 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.520 then Logan Gilbert twenty eighteen, George Kirby twenty nineteen, Emerson 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.920 Hancock twenty twenty, Harry Ford twenty twenty one, Cole Young 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.440 twenty twenty two, Colt Emerson twenty three, Jurangelo twenty four, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.200 Kate Anderson twenty five. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.240 There's not any true power bats in there. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.680 There's not that many bats period, but Cole Young, Colt, Emerson, 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.360 Harry Ford, those aren't power bats. Those were supposed to 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:32.600 be hitters that were well rounded baseball players, and Cole 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.160 and Colt you're seeing some of that now in the 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.440 big leagues. This is a true power threat that they're taking. 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.280 They haven't used a lot of picks on a guy 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.920 like that, so the ability to absolutely do damage is there. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.200 And they always have opted in the last ten years, 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:50.880 they've aimed for upside with most of those picks, ironically, 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:55.920 except Evan White, right, they've gone for guys who play 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.480 up the middle, who are good athletes, who you could 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:04.200 like ream on their potential as baseball players. Not to 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.040 say a series can't have a high ceiling, but when 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.480 the concerns about a player or that he's going to 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.480 stick at a corner infield spot or move to a 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:15.560 corner outfield spot that doesn't necessarily scream, Oh, this guy's 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.680 going to be the next Colt Emerson at shortstop. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.679 Paired with the swing and miss that's already in his game, 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.160 and what will probably be some questions about how he 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.640 hits left handed pitching because he's a left handed bat 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.400 with big power, which, again, when you compare it to 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.920 a lot of the guys on the Mariners roster right now, 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:38.760 there does feel like there's some similarities. Lefty with power 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.600 who may struggle against lefties and has some swing and miss. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.080 I mean, I'm not saying that's the reason you do 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.200 or don't make a pick. You're trying to take the 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.520 best player available and hopefully he turns into an impact 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.360 player for your ball club long term. But you do 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.840 just happen to notice some of the similarities. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:57.920 Yeah. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.000 Well, we'll see how this turns out when he actual 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.000 he gets into games and plays. We're hoping the Mariners selfishly, 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.000 as as the pot as us the Marine Layer podcast, 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.400 we are hoping that he gets sent to Everett and 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.280 if he gets set to Everett. Then we're hoping we 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:13.679 can get him on the podcast and you all can 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.440 hear from him, and then he could tell you why 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.280 he's going to actually be the most complete hitter in 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.360 the minor leagues at this time next season. 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.400 That'd be awesome. There's other Mariners' picks to talk about too. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.360 Before we do that, though, I. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.520 Would say, actually, one more thing, So why did they 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.800 pick Ace Reese instead of drafting a pitcher? 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:29.320 Oh? 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:30.840 I was going to get to that after this, but 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.760 we can talk about it now. I would say it's 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.360 probably how the board fell to them. I still think 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.079 the Mariners wanted to draft a college arm. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:44.120 I don't know that for certain. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:48.040 This is just me speculating, but we had heard they 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.640 like Cameron Fluky, and we also talked about how Cade 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.680 Townsend felt like a pretty Mariner's type pitching prospect. Those 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.800 guys went the exact two picks before the Mariners were 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.760 set to select exactly the two picks before. Like the 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:06.520 two guys we highlighted as very Mariners type profile arms. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:11.800 Fluky Townsend right handed college arms with projectability and upside. 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.480 Decent stuff that has a little bit more to be developed. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.760 It's like, oh, this feels like a Mariner. They went 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.920 the two picks before. So is there a chance the 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.800 Mariners had to pivot? Yeah, there's a chance. Is there 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.959 a chance that they weren't imagining they were going to 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.880 take ace rees? Possible, but the board goes how the 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:28.920 board goes mm hmm. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.040 And I feel like we'll get a better sense from 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.280 that from Jodouah on Wednesday if I were guessed so great. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.120 And then the other two pictures we talked about, Tigan 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.839 Kuhns went six picks later, he went to number thirty 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.560 and then Cole Carlon slid almost into the forties. So 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.280 those guys must have not been on the Mariner as 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.720 high on the Mariner's board as someone like Ace Reese was, 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.360 where they didn't. Perhaps the Mariners didn't see the upside 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.160 in taking those arms as opposed to getting a power 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:58.520 bat that can fill in in the middle of the 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.800 Mariner's farm system and give them some they just don't 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.840 really have in the miners quite as much. 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.840 It'll be interesting to watch Fluky in Townsend as their 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.040 minor league careers progress, just to see how they fare 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:13.720 his arms just and it's always different depending on the system. 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:14.160 You go to. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.440 Some developments better than others, situations are different than others. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:22.120 But what's that Angels. Well, yeah, those guys didn't go 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.160 to the Angels. Thankfully for them, Yeah, good for them. 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.040 But yeah, I'll be interested see how those guys fare 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:28.679 as they work through the miners and if they really 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:29.440 live up to the hype. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.240 Didn't the Angels pick a high schooler this year? 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.880 I think they did, which is I think it's the 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:34.880 first time in forever. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.320 I saw our friends at Cesspatas Family barbecue looking at 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.800 like the John Mozela quotes talking about it where he 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.959 was like, yeah, we're not gonna see this guy from 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.640 a while, and everyone's like, oh my god, this could 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.760 not be any more different. It's like development development, like 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.920 actually letting a guy grow into professional baseball. 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:55.560 No, that's just not the way to go. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.640 I mean, Nolan Channewell up two months later, Yeah, Christian 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.560 Moore up within a year, like Tyler Bremner on the 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.840 Price see him soon. Well, actually, maybe not anymore with 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.959 the new regime. But incredible. They are an incredible franchise. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:09.800 Yeah, they really are. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.600 All right, Well, we're hoping a couple other prospects get 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.520 to Effett this year too. In terms of the Mariners 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.360 Draft Class, we'll talk about them before that. 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I would 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.760 like to think Jake Brown has a chance to get 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.080 to ever two, which selfishly would also be awesome and 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:54.840 for Mariners fans would be awesome if you get to 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.000 see him play, because that's who the Mariners took in 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.680 the second round. Jake Brown is a left handed hitting 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.920 out fielder out of LSU and I think what people 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.360 really see jump out about him is the athleticism. 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.760 This is from our friend Joe Doyle. His blurb on 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.280 Jake Brown, crazy athlete, loads of untapped potential. If the 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.480 Mariners can get his lower half figured out at the plate, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.920 could turn into a middle of the order threat, chance 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.960 to play center field if the mobility ticks up. So 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.200 this guy kind of it feels like he has sort 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.400 of the hit or profile of what Ace Reese does 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.880 with a touch more athleticism. He got hurt this year, 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.040 which before the season there was some talk about him 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.200 going in the first round, but he missed a good 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.680 chunk of play this year, so he didn't get to 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.720 showcase his full talents in the SEC this year. And 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.680 the other concern was that he did a lot of 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:48.080 his damage this year against mid major schools and not 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.760 the actual like future pros he's facing in the SEC. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.800 Sounds like a second round pick. To me, that sounds 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.760 like a clay that needs to be molded. That's what 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:57.440 it sounds like. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.960 What did Joe talk about with our guy Nicki Becker 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.880 last year? It's if everything goes well and everything goes right. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.560 This is a lot of the similar tools to what 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.440 Gunner Henderson had in high school. Not every high school 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.640 projectable bat ends up like Gunner Henderson. Some of them don't, 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.640 but you're projecting that you could get a piece of 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.040 that with your own guy, and you hope it turns 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.880 into something. It's not exactly the same thing with Jake 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.720 Brown because he's not the very young high school bat 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.920 with a lot of raw tools like Becker, but it's 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.040 a guy that you're currently that you're clearly going to 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.480 have to do a little bit of projectability on because 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.800 he missed time. There are some questions about how he'll 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.040 hit left handed pitching as well. There are you know, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.320 there are questions, like Joe said, about where will he 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.840 play defensively, Like will he be a true center fielder? 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:46.320 Is he going to be more of a corner guy. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:48.800 There's a little bit up in the air with him. 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.520 If it all goes right and it hits its one 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.960 hundredth percentile, you could have something really awesome. If it 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.880 doesn't and hits maybe more a fiftieth project project, oh 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.520 my god, a fiftieth percentile outcome, then maybe he's a 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.200 platoon bat who just helps in an outfield spot. Which, again, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.160 if that's what you got out of a second round pick, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.679 and he was a big leaguer, like a lot of 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.960 second rounders, do a whole lot worse than that, so 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.280 there's projectability there. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.239 I kind of feel like he's a mix between the 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:21.359 Mariners aiming for a projectable high schooler and going for 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:22.400 a safe college bat. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:23.520 That's what it kind of feels to me. 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:27.280 Like first initial thought is that there's some unknown here 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.800 that could be great, but also could leave him a 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.919 little bit below where the Mariners think his floor is. 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.240 I just will just have to see as he plays. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:42.119 But this feels a more high school pick for the 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.120 Mariners who's not actually a high schooler. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.800 For me, again, I think the right word to use 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:48.560 is they're trying to project a bit, which in the 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.480 second round, of course, go for upside. Take a guy 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.240 who's talented, who you know as upside, and hope your 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:55.720 development gets the most out of him. 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:56.080 M hm. 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.280 Here's another thing from Joe. He called Jake Brown with 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.480 the most hitters in the country. This is in April. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.280 Not outlandish raw power or bat speed, but his understanding 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.320 for generating lyft and backspin is rivaled by very few. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.000 Already sixteen homers this season as of this tweet. That 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.240 tells me he's got his pull power dialed in. It's 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.520 not just raw power, spring it all over the field. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.560 That is, being able to get on time to a 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.480 baseball and pull it for power to right field, which 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.200 I think is really important. There's another guy the Mariners 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.000 picked in the third round with the one hundred and 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:33.560 first overall pick. His name is Nathan Taylor, and Joe 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:39.200 Doyle calls him a prototypical starting pitcher clay heading to 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.520 Seattle's he says, this guy's got big extension, He's got 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:46.560 to cut fastball, the slider has real depth. Immediately Slots 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.240 is one of the better starting pitching prospects in the organization. 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.160 I mean, that's a pretty bold statement. You're obviously trying 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.360 to do some projecting on Taylor too, But you talk 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.000 about Cage, you talk about Sloan. He's obviously not gonna 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.520 be ahead of those guys. But does he rank ahead 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.760 of the Mason Peters of the world. Does he rank 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.240 ahead of some of the others? Could be interesting. 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.800