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Speaker 1: Today's a little best of of last week if you

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, totally agree with this sentiment.

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Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler wins again uh I guess we shouldn't be shocked.

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Speaker 1: the Scotty Shuffler at all. It's what was so amazing

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Speaker 1: then right around the Masters, it felt like, is this

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Speaker 1: Lee Corso said, not so fast, my friend, pump the

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Speaker 1: And as Jack Nicholas said, it's like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: you put an astrogonomical amount of money on this guy?

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Speaker 1: And every time I talk myself out of it, it's like, Ah,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be the week, and then he goes

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Speaker 1: and wins. I always think when a player retires quote

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Speaker 1: unquote randomly, especially when there is you know, the car

430
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Speaker 1: situation had gotten let's say, toxic between the new coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: mainly the new head coach him. They weren't on the

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Speaker 1: same page. It clearly got weird, and I do think

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Speaker 1: that I would imagine we'll see when quotes come out

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Speaker 1: when Dan Campbell finally gets in front of a Mike

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Speaker 1: or Brad Holm, the GM that they would have been

436
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: in communication over the offseason with Frank ragnow their starting

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Speaker 1: center and let's face it, one of the better interior

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the NFL. It's always a little jarring

439
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Speaker 1: when you see a guy just choosing to quit at

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Speaker 1: twenty nine years old. Now, I think what makes pro

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Speaker 1: sports in twenty twenty five so much different than I

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Speaker 1: would say the previous We could even go the last

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Speaker 1: ten years, but anything before that is the money is

444
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Speaker 1: so outrageous, it really is. Frank Ragno's twenty nine years

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Speaker 1: old and he's already made fifty seven million dollars, you know,

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Speaker 1: so even if you factor in after taxes, he's taken

447
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Speaker 1: in net probably I don't know, well over thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: And he lives in a place that, you know, no

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00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: shade to Detroit, and obviously they have some high end places,

450
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Speaker 1: but is it Manhattan or Newport Beach? So his money's

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Speaker 1: going a little bit farther, And I do think that

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Speaker 1: may or gives guys the opportunity when they're in a

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Speaker 1: lot of pain, because the one thing with football is

454
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: we've all been critical, and I'm guilty as anybody is

455
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: being like, this is not the NFL. I knew this

456
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: is not the sport that I grew up loving. This

457
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 1: was not the sport when I was in high school.

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Speaker 1: It was suspicious. You could take out anybody, the Ronnie Lotts,

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Speaker 1: the John Lynches, the Troy Paulamalus, the Ray Lewises' that's

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Speaker 1: my NFL. It was a much more violent game in

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Speaker 1: the open field. That is true. Can't touch the quarterback anymore.

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Speaker 1: That's a fact which I do understand from a business perspective.

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Speaker 1: But when you're watching a game, when it's your team,

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Speaker 1: when you're betting on a game, and they throw a

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Speaker 1: roughing the passer penalty on a quarterback hit that is

466
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Speaker 1: like hitting him with a pillow. It makes you want

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Speaker 1: to puke. I mean, it really does. But the one

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Speaker 1: area where you can still be really violent and and

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Speaker 1: an area in which more and more elite players have

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Speaker 1: come into the league over the past decade at defensive tackle,

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Speaker 1: let alone, defensive end is the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 1: the speed, the power, the size of these humans is

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Speaker 1: It's crazy whenever the combine comes around and you see

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Speaker 1: the measurables on the defensive lineman in the league. And

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Speaker 1: Frank Ragnow said, like I've tried to talk myself that

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Speaker 1: I'm not into a lot of pain and at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, I just do not feel right.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at his injury history, he's had

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Speaker 1: a bunch of injuries over the course of his career.

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Speaker 1: And you do not become a Pro Bowl level player,

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Speaker 1: a high end player, a first round pick, a guy

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Speaker 1: that is just you know, one of the better players

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Speaker 1: at your positioning at offensive line if you are not

484
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Speaker 1: a tough son of a bitch, Like no one can

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Speaker 1: question your toughness when you play center or guard and

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Speaker 1: you are a high end player at that position. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take him at his word that the

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Speaker 1: pain and the worry of out like this might not

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Speaker 1: work moving forward, right. Jason Kelsey talked about this when

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Speaker 1: he retired, like could I keep playing? Of course now

491
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Speaker 1: he was much older than rag now, But I'm in

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Speaker 1: so much pain when I get out of bed every morning,

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Speaker 1: not even counting the season. I'm talking about the offseason.

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Speaker 1: And I do think it makes it easier to make

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Speaker 1: life decisions when you have a lot of money in

496
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Speaker 1: the bank and your family is secured and you're not

497
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to worry about anything. Is it unlimited money?

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Speaker 1: Is it enough where you couldn't blow it if you

499
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: did some stupid things. Of course not so. But is

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Speaker 1: it more money? Are you immediately in the top one

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Speaker 1: percent of the one percent? With having millions upon millions

502
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Speaker 1: upon millions of dollars in the bank, you can look

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Speaker 1: at things a little bit differently, and it has to

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Speaker 1: be difficult to make this decision. I think if you're

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Speaker 1: the Lions. I've said this before and I still believe

506
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Speaker 1: this today. Now it is more difficult in this spread

507
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Speaker 1: offense version of college football, this transfer port world we

508
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: live in. I always thought the guards and centers are

509
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: the most replaceable. Now when you get Pro Bowl guys,

510
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: it is hard to find another Pro Bowl guy. But

511
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Speaker 1: the drop off of just finding another center who can

512
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Speaker 1: function is much smaller than if Pine Sewel retired. It's like,

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00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: what do I do at tackle? It's like, yeah, you

514
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: can be screwed. I see it with the forty nine

515
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: ers all the time. When Trent Williams gets gets injured.

516
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: It's like, what do we do And the answer is

517
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do because your swing tackle can

518
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: never just step in. I hate you know. The Lions

519
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years have actually had a

520
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: pretty good swing tackle, but it's why their offensive line's

521
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: been awesome. But for the most part, like there's a

522
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: massive drop off with your third tackle been given a

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Speaker 1: guy that your starter, especially when that starter is a

524
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Speaker 1: high end guy. But I think we've seen, like, you know,

525
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: Derek Carr thirty years ago is still playing football, right,

526
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: but he's made over two hundred million dollars. And it's like,

527
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: you know what, just kind of over this, not dealing

528
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: with the politics of this business. And Frank is like,

529
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Speaker 1: you know what, thirty years ago, when again, NFL players

530
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: were still making a lot of money in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: they weren't making life changing, generational changing money when you

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00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: were the center in nineteen eighty seven. You keep playing

533
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: because Frank, hell, he could make ten million dollars this

534
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: upcoming season. Hell, he could hold out because he has

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Speaker 1: no guaranteed money left on his contract and surely get

536
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Speaker 1: a raise. I mean, he's scheduled to make like nine

537
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Speaker 1: and a half million dollars in actual cash. I bet

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Speaker 1: he could get that number easily up to fifteen plus

539
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: million dollars. But you're like, you know, it's not even

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Speaker 1: worth it to me. I don't even want to deal

541
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Speaker 1: with this, And who knows. He's young enough that maybe

542
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: in a year, maybe he's feeling better, that he gets

543
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: the itch. And trust me, there would be either the

544
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: Lions or other teams willing to scratch that itch. But

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Speaker 1: I think a huge element of these decisions, even going

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00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: back to Calvin Johnson, you know, I think Barry Sanders'

547
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: decision was strictly based on this franchise. Fucking sucks. This

548
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: is not fun, this is this is a miserable experience

549
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: running around and never winning. I do think the guys

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00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: that we've seen in recent memory have factored in pain.

551
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: And I'm super rich, it's just not worth it. Patrick

552
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Willis had the feet. I think Calvin Johnson had the

553
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: feet as well. You know, Derek Carr has this messed

554
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: up shoulder. Those are just ones that come to mind.

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00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, I don't need the money anymore.

556
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, I mean Aaron Donald's still kicking ass and

557
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: taking names. He's like, I've already banged one hundred million dollars.

558
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm good, Doug, I'm out. I've already accomplished everything I've

559
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: set out to accomplish. I still feel good. I see

560
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Speaker 1: some of these clips I saw on Instagram reel of

561
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald lifting. It's like, Jesus, guy looks fantastic. He

562
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: looks like he could he'd make it all pro this

563
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: season if he came back. I would actually been on it.

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Speaker 1: But it's like, you know what, it's not worth it

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00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 1: to me because football, more than these other sports like baseball,

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Speaker 1: you just play every single night. You don't practice, take

567
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you play basketball if you're on

568
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: a good team by like Christmas, you don't even you

569
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: don't practice at all either. I don't think Lebron James

570
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: teams have practiced in like a decade, so like football

571
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: is the one sport where you practice and mentally practice

572
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 1: with meetings and rehab and working on your body and

573
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: lifting way more than you get to play. I say

574
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Speaker 1: this all the time because I think it's one of

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00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: the great quotes of all time. Ray Lewis saying, you

576
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: pay me Monday through Saturday. Sundays are for free because

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Speaker 1: playing football at any level, if you played in high school,

578
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Speaker 1: if you played pee wee's, if you good enough to

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Speaker 1: play in college, the games are the fun part, right.

580
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Speaker 1: It's everything else that sucks. And I think it's made

581
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: these decisions for some of these guys that could I

582
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: battle through a couple more years of this pain for

583
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: another twenty million dollars, which most humans would do. Well,

584
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: it's easy to go, yeah, it's not quite worth it

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Speaker 1: when you've already made millions of dollars. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's really the number one factor here. The volume m