1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calbs, he joins me, 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: we both wonder out loud which Cardinals team shows up 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday, The one that looked listless in Week one 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: and through the first two quarters last week, or the 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: one that battled back from a twenty point halftime deficit 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. Here's hoping it's the latter. Time to 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: break down the season's first NFC West game. It's Cardinals 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode five ninety four, and it starts now. 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. Hitting the backfield and down 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: he goes for a loss. JJ Watt nailed it. Cardinals 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hun Day, proud partner of 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Acy 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com Slash Podcasts. He's at the ten half 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: of five pas in again, So for Harry Magic. WHOA, 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolou. So let's start with this, Paul. I 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: know you are aware of the Rams won the NFC 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: West last season, but are you aware of which team 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: had the best division record last season? Well, when it 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: comes to the Rams and division championships, I sort of 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: go blank by design. You know, it's okay to hate 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: the Rams. You know, now that the Seahawks fell into 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: last place last year, you know, most of my disdain 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: is reserved for the twelves, the Niners. I just sort 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: of feel sorry for the Niners and what they've done 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position and really screwed up the future 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: of the franchise. And you know that kind of generic, 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: homogenized stadium. They ruin the home field advantage from Candlesticks. 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: So I kind of have sympathy for the forty nine ers. 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: They just can't quite figure it out despite all the talent. 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: But the Rams, now that's pure hatred. So no, I 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: don't think it's a long winded response. I don't think 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: I am familiar. I did not realize we were going 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: to go a deep dive, almost philosophical on the NFC West. 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: But by the way, okay, so the Rams they won 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: the division, but they did not have the best record 36 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: within the division. That belonged to the Arizona Cardinals, who 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: went four and two. Rams and Seahawks three and three. 38 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: In the forty nine Ers, who do not play in 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: San Francisco, by the way, went to and four. I say, 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: all that because well, the Rams are in town here 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: on Sunday, Week three, one, twenty five is the kickoff 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: from State Farm Stadium eight thirty am. Pregame coverage begins. 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: And of course, let's just get this right out of 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: the way. The Rams have won nine to the last 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: ten regular season meetings. I'm not counting the playoff loss. 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals though, did split last season, winning on the road, 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: losing at home. And okay, yes there's the home loss 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: in the six game losing streak. And they haven't beaten 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: the Rams at home since twenty fourteen and they were 50 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: known as the Saint Louis Rams. Okay, we got all 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: that out of the way. The Rams are a scary team, 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: regardless of how they have looked the first two weeks 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: of this season. No question. They have playmakers, they have 54 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: difference makers, they have game records all over the place. 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. Here's the thing, though, Let's 56 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: go back to that Week four jack stomping by the 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals at the LA Rams because I was there and 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: it was a physical game and the Cardinals were the 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: more physical team. They had forty carries for two hundred 60 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: and sixteen rushing yards, Kyler was a problem. He was 61 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: kept clean most of the game. How much of that 62 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: had to do with the offensive line play versus the 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: balanced offense. I think they go hand in hand. That 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: would be my expectation in this one. If you're gonna 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: come out and you're gonna try and neutralize ninety nine, 66 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: which nobody really does. But look at the difference in 67 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald between the first meeting and the next two meetings, 68 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: including that playoff game. Look at Aaron Donald in Week 69 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: fourteen a year ago, which ended up being a one 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: score game, but he had fourteen quarterback pressures in Week fourteen. 71 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: That's like a whole season's worth of pressures for an 72 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: interior d lineman in a single game. So this time around, 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: I think if you're a Cardinals fan, you feel better 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: about the offensive line than you did the latter half 75 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: of last season. Right guard isn't nearly the liability it 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: was when you were playing third stringers a year ago. 77 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez was signed in the offseason with that express purpose. 78 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: The return at Justin Pugh last week really solidify that 79 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: offensive line. You saw it. We talked to Cliff Kingsbury 80 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: and his weekly TV show about it. Just not only 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: the expertise and the acumen of Justin Pugh, a highly 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: polished interior guard, but just the cerebral nature and how 83 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: he sinks up so well with one of his really 84 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: good friends, DJ Humphries. You just feel to me a 85 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: lot better about going into this game against the Rams 86 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: than you did in Week fourteen or the playoff game. 87 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: Just the state of the offensive line alone, and you 88 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: get a sense in talking with will or Justin this 89 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: week that they are looking forward to this matchup against 90 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: ninety nine. These offensive lineman, I think they gear up 91 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: for the matchups like this. They are, And Kyler Murray 92 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: mentioned that he's honored to be on the same field 93 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: as an Aaron Donald. Now, maybe this is just a 94 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: lot to speak to make sure that they don't upset 95 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, because we know that if he's upset, he 96 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: becomes that Week fourteen juggernaut as opposed to being absolutely 97 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: shut out in Week four last season. But you're giving 98 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: this Rams team early in the year to where maybe 99 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: you can take the Rams and maybe I wouldn't say 100 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: steal one, but get that w and put the Rams 101 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: in a one and two hole. But for me, when 102 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: you talk about the Rams on defense. Yes, it begins 103 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: and ends with Aaron Donald, who, over his last six 104 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: games against the Cardinals twelve sacks. Oh my goodness, I didn't. 105 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: I was not aware of that. I did ask James 106 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: Conner walking with him in the locker room a little bit. 107 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: I said, give me a story about ninety nine that 108 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: no one else knows, or at least in this locker room, 109 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: because you were his college teammate and they still work 110 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: out together in the offseason. He said, Well, there was 111 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: a college game at pit against Duke Go. Google, as 112 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I like to say, google it up on YouTube the 113 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: time where Aaron Donald was. He actually busted through and 114 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: tackled both the running back and the quarterback at the 115 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: same time at the mesh point. If anyone remembers like 116 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: the Jadeveon Clowney play when he was at south line 117 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: against Michigan or absolutely tattooed the running back of the 118 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: right motion, Yeah, so Aaron Donald pulled that one off. 119 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: But look, you talk to some of the offensive lineman 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: and I worked. I worked the locker room this week, 121 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: and you just see I start a lot of it 122 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: with Okay, if he's the best defensive player ever in 123 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. And two of them stop 124 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: me and said, no, he is. He's the best defensive 125 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: player of the NFL has ever seen. And they said, 126 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: he's got everything. You know. He's got the power, he's 127 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: got the speed, ridiculous balance, he uses your leverage against you. 128 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: These are the scounder reports from Cardinal's offensive lineman. If 129 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: he gets into your chest, you're done. If he gets 130 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: your back shoulder, you're done. And now that he's in 131 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: year nine, it's his acumen, it's his football IQ. He 132 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: knows line calls, he knows which way you're coming off 133 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: the ball. He uses that to his advantage and they 134 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: move him up and down the line. He's not just 135 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: a three technique. You'll see him on the nose, you 136 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: see him on the edge, you see him on both 137 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: sides of the line. He's a certified problem. It's just 138 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: amazing to watch when you watch from Afar when the 139 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: Rams aren't playing the Cardinals, because when you do watch 140 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: him against the Cardinals, yeah, you get worried because he can. 141 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: As we've heard repeatedly, he wrecks offenses. There are ten 142 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: other players on that defense, but one individual, ninety nine, 143 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: res An entire offense because he can wreck a play 144 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: which can be in the difference between a first down 145 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: on that drive or going three and out. So, yeah, 146 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: the offensive line with Justin Pugh now a game under 147 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: his belt, you would expect that to be better. How 148 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: about Rodney Hudson having a couple of games under his belt, 149 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: as rusty as he looked in Week one. Now all 150 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got your three interior offensive lineman. Maybe, 151 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: Now this is where this season begins as opposed to 152 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Week one against the Chiefs. And if you see ninety 153 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: nine on the edge, then you have Darryl Williams. We 154 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: don't know about James Connor, but Darryl Williamson, man was 155 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: he stout some of those chip blocks against Max Crosby 156 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: last week. Very physical. So you like that and you 157 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: like to think, because here's what I saw in Kyler 158 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: Murray behind that offensive line. I saw a comfortable and 159 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: confident quarterback against the Raiders. Obviously in the second half. 160 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: You know when Cliff Kingsbury said he loved the decisions 161 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: that Kyler made, when to throw, when to run, when 162 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: to pull it down bolt for the sticks or the 163 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: two point conversion run, the epic twenty one seconds and 164 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: eighty five yards covered that ends up in the Hall 165 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: of Fame. You know, it's just that doesn't happen unless 166 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: Kyler is confident and comfortable. You know, he's able to 167 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: keep his eyes downfield because he's not worried about his backside, 168 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: or he's not worried about right guard, which was a 169 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: liability in the playoff game when you're playing a third 170 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: stringer and it's an absolute sieb. So if that continues 171 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: in this one, it just I want to see what 172 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense looks like, and you want to see, 173 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: obviously if they can pick up where they left off. 174 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: No momentum doesn't carry over from week to week, but 175 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: maybe that rhythm they found on offense and got things clicking, 176 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: which because and Cliff Kingsbury said it more them once 177 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: after the Chiefs loss, it looked like one team who 178 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: was regular season ready and another team who was playing 179 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: preseason game number one. So to your point, if they 180 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: got that rust out from under him, not just Rodney Hudson, 181 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: but everyone, and they've sort of gelled as an offense. Okay, 182 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: can they do it out of the gates, because that's 183 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: one thing that Cardinals has not been good at fast 184 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: starts in recent play. And if you get down against 185 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: this Rams team and then they're able to on Leash 186 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: ninety nine with abandoned and he doesn't have to worry 187 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: about the run look out. Cardinals have been out scored 188 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: forty three to seven in the first halfs of these 189 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: first two games of the regular season. So it is 190 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: the question this week as much as you look at 191 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: the Rams as the opponent, which Cardinals team shows up 192 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: on Sunday at State Farm Stadium the Week one Cardinals 193 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: and the first half against the Raiders or that second 194 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: half team against the Raiders battling back from a twenty 195 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: point halftime deficit and showing to your point, Yeah, this 196 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: is what the offense can and should look like and 197 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: a defense that just needs to be I would say average, 198 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: but just a little bit above average, because this is 199 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: an offense that should be able to score points and 200 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: the defense get a couple of stops. I've wondered for 201 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: a long time why the Cardinals marketing department doesn't do 202 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: more with angry birds, right, do something with angry birds. 203 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: There's something there, is there not? I mean, Calvaci Consulting 204 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: can't do everything around here. I mean figure it out, 205 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: because that's what I think we saw after halftime last 206 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: week was Cliff Kingsbury and the coaches came out, where 207 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: are the players? We were doing the halftime show and 208 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: we sighted it on the air. Yeah, that's conspicuous by 209 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: its presence. No players, So not a lot of guys 210 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: are saying a lot about what happened at halftime, but 211 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: something happened. The leaders had something to say. I don't 212 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: think it was necessarily angry, you know, and we talk 213 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: about angry birds. I think that's more the way they 214 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: played than necessarily what was said. But your Djamfrey's after 215 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: the game, which I think was telling in that locker 216 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: room clip that the Cardinals tweeted out where he said, 217 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: this is our identity, this is who we are the 218 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: first six quarters of those two games. That's not Arizona 219 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals football. And I think that was basically the message 220 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: at halftime. Yeah, we're playing hard enough. We think we're 221 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: playing are enough. We're definitely not playing clean enough. A 222 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: game where we had a dozen penalties and you were 223 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: your worst end nemesis as much as the Raiders were. 224 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: But okay, if you're going to get a team that's 225 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: challenged to deal with the details and the little things. 226 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, we haven't seen a whole bunch of 227 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: since they started ten and two. If you can get 228 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: that attention to detail, because everybody now correct, you know what, 229 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: the little things are big things in an NFL where 230 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: most games are decided by seven points or less, So yes, 231 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: it matters a handful of plays, the difference between whether 232 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: you walk off that field with your headheld high or 233 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: you walk off that field going all right, we got 234 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: some things to work on, and the Cardinals certainly do 235 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: have things to work on, irregardless of how that game 236 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: last week finished. It's the slow starts, it's a number 237 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: of penalties and just fine tuning. How about we don't 238 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: call a timeout when the clock has already stopped after 239 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: a penalty or after a time out by the opponent. 240 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: Just little things like that that are certainly frustrating and 241 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: not and they kind of get buried a little bit 242 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: after a win. But there are some things not only 243 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: between the lines but on the sidelines that need to 244 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: be changed. So far, no question, there's too much confusion 245 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: and chaos at times. Didn't the Cardinals have twelve men 246 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: on offense at one point, Yeah, twelve on defense. It 247 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: was a twelve mint on defense. Okay. So I mean 248 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: there was just stuff that that they were lucky to 249 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: get away with. And Kyler knows it. He said it 250 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: to the media nine times at attend You're not getting 251 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: away with getting down twenty to nothing at the half 252 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: with some of the mistakes, the dozen penalties. So but 253 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: the good news is that's imminently correctable, and that's within 254 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: your power. It should be corrected. You know. I talked 255 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: to one member of the defense. I said, um, so 256 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: talk about timing if that's everything in life. Well, you 257 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: guys got that defense looking sound finally in the second 258 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: half of against the Raiders, just in time for Sean McVeigh, 259 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: and his response was, yeah, if we look like week 260 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: one in terms of communication, alignment, assignment, we won't beat 261 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Chandler High. That was his comment. So, now you get 262 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: Sean mcvayh to your you noting about the offense. What 263 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: does Sean McVay do better than anyone? Him and Kyle Shanahan, 264 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: they will stress and test and challenge whether your defense 265 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: is sound, do you have everything accounted for? We're going 266 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: to send everyone in motion. And here's the Jets sweep 267 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: and there's a little I candy this way, and there's 268 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: a guy going that way, and oh, Matthew Stafford's got 269 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: his head on a swivel and he's looking at your defense. 270 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: Are you leaving anyone unaccounted for? And or oh wait 271 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: a minute, I've got a wide receiver a linebacker. Now 272 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: that's my first read. That's what Sean McVeigh does as 273 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: well as anyone in recent history of the NFL. Is 274 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: the matchup game. So I'm curious what exactly are the 275 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: personnel situation is going to look like. Isaiah Simmons. For example, 276 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee has twenty targets in two games, and as 277 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph told the media two weeks ago, Isaiah Simmons 278 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: was quote draft to cover tight ends. Yet when Darren 279 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: Waller had a touchdown catch in the first half in Vegas, 280 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: who was covering him Zeke Turner? So what does that mean? 281 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: And will shook Sean mcvabe able to exploit that because 282 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: of Isaiah Simmons, Like in Week one, is in coverage 283 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: against Travis Kelsey, but he's messing up the leverage he's 284 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: on the wrong side, which means the help over the 285 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: top isn't there at the precise time. Then you know 286 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: what that matters. That's the difference between a chunk throw 287 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: and stopping the play. Has Simmons received the message fifteen 288 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: snaps in week two as opposed to playing nearly the 289 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: entire game in week one? Did he get the message that, look, 290 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: you are not playing well enough on Sundays. But it 291 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: goes back to what you're doing during the week, your 292 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: practice habits. You're not practicing well enough, not hard enough, 293 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: but well enough. Are you in the right spot? Are 294 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: you doing the right things green dot or no green 295 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: dot to where we trust you to do it on Sundays? 296 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: And that this coaching staff, without saying as much, Paul, 297 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: I think this coaching staff defensively has lost trust in 298 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons at least early on this season. Can he 299 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: get that trust back to increase those fifteen snaps two 300 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: where he was in week one? Whiplash? That was the 301 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: comment from Cliff Kingsbury when he was asked about Isaiah Simmons, 302 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: And then there was a follow up comment about, well, 303 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: wait a minute, he was calling your defense in week 304 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: one and then in week two, he really was only 305 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: in on third downs. Now, he played a little bit 306 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: more late second half and in overtime obviously, but the 307 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: first three quarters of the game he was basically in 308 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: a third down package where it was third and obvious 309 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: passing and he went in as part of a nickel 310 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: or dime package. So and then Cliff Kingsbury cut off 311 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: the questioner and said, no, it's really a matter of 312 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: him giving us whiplash. What can we count on? You 313 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: see the spectacular plays, but are you seeing the consistent plays? 314 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: And to your point, can advance Joseph? Trust him because 315 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: on either side of the ball, if the coaches can't 316 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: trust you and you're a I'm in an alignment and 317 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: guess what, they won't play you because that's all an 318 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: NFL team needs to exploit your defense. So trust Isaiah Simmons. 319 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: Do the Cardinals coaches trust Isaiah Simmons? And based off 320 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: of last week, let's talk about the trust that perhaps 321 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy has earned covering number one wide receivers because 322 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: that as much as we made a big deal on 323 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: his final play of the fifty nine yards scoop and 324 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: score and certainly highlight of the year, so far for 325 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals might be the highlight of the season, depending 326 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: on what happens the rest of the way. But what 327 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: got buried a little bit was his defense on DeVante 328 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: Adams and he traveled with Adams. That's not my words. 329 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker brought it up in the locker room. Now, 330 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: the coaches, we mix things up a little bit. But 331 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: when you look at the film and how many times 332 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: Murphy was on Adams, Adams didn't do a whole heck 333 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: of a lot. No, he did not. And you know what, 334 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting because you're right the coaches say, well, we 335 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: mix some coverages, you know, But if you talk to 336 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: the players in that locker room, they say that Byron 337 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: Murphy traveled with Davante Adams. Film don't lie, and he 338 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: was very effective and they did try and move Davante 339 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: Adams around. He's a guy who will be inside and outside. 340 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: You just can't put a value on if Byron Murphy 341 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: becomes a number one cover corner and Vans Joseph did 342 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: tell the media this week that he has improved from 343 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: last year. Now, he got nicked up at some point 344 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: last year. Because we saw the start to last season. 345 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: We saw the pick six against Trevor Lawis and Jacksonville. 346 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: We saw a lot of spectacular plays. You know, you 347 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: saw him in the slot as much as you did 348 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: outside at times. But now because Cardinals are so thin 349 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 1: in the secondary, especially in the cornerback position, that he 350 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: has to play outside. But it's interesting because even his 351 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: narrative is different when he talks in the media. He's 352 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: telling the media, I want that assignment. I want the 353 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: number one receiver. Now you can look at that a 354 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: couple of different ways. Number one. Does he finally feel 355 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: equipped and qualified to check a number one receiver like 356 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: Pat he did for so many years in his prime, 357 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: And or is it because he's a contract year and 358 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: he wants to get paid like a true number one 359 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: corner who danced Joseph can start every game week by saying, Okay, 360 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: we're taking our number one cover corner and we're signing 361 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: it to their number one receiver. Check. That's a huge 362 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: part of the game plan. Now I can dial up 363 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: the other ten guys, so we'll see. And I think 364 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: we'll know right away because they're not going to tell 365 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: the media. Everyone it's asking, including installing at Jeans and 366 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy gonna go ahead and travel with Cooper Cup. Well, 367 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: they're not going to tell you that, but as soon 368 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: as Cooper Cup goes in motion, if number seven is 369 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: flying across the line and shadowing and traveling with Cooper Cup, 370 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: that's our answer. So is that feasible and doable when 371 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: nobody does a better job in the NFL of utilizing 372 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: a talent in my opinion, than what Sean McVeigh does 373 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: with Cooper Cup. He's in the slot, he's on the outside, 374 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: he's in the backfield, he's lined up as part of 375 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: some sort of jumbo power package. He's everywhere, and he's 376 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: always in motion, and they get the ball to him 377 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: in the flat, they get him down field. He's able 378 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: to read coverages. He stops on a dime against zone 379 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: and he finds the open area. He's in sync with 380 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. We found out in the Super Bowl how 381 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: they would show up at six six thirty in the 382 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: morning during the regular season and just do the extra 383 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: work needed to formulate that sort of chemistry. And then 384 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: you saw it on a game winning Super Bowl winning drive. Craig, 385 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: remember that when they were without OBJ, they're out. Tyler 386 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: Higbee It was basically Stafford and Cup against double and 387 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: triple coverage, and they still had four completions on the 388 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: final drive and they won the Lombardi. That's how tough 389 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: it is to stop those guys. Cup finds a way 390 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: to get open single teamed, double team, triple teams, in 391 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: the slot, outside, inside, there's that chemistry between quarterback and receiver, 392 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: but it's the ability of Cooper Cup to get open 393 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: no matter what is in front of him. What Murphy 394 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: showed last week against arguably the best wide receiver in 395 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: the game, and if Adams is one A, then Cup 396 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: is one B. Do you trust what we saw to say? 397 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: All right, Murph, do it again. You want the challenge. 398 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: Let's see if you can hang with someone who has 399 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: done amazingly last year winning the triple Crown as far 400 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: as leading the league in catches, receptions and receiving touchdowns, 401 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: and certainly well on his way to doing it again 402 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: this year with twenty four catches for two hundred and 403 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: thirty six yards and three touchdowns. Ken Byron Murphy, You're 404 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: not going to limits Cup like you did Adams, I 405 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: don't think for a second straight week. But can you 406 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: slow him down? Make someone else beat you. That's what 407 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did so well last week against the Raiders. 408 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: They didn't allow Adams to beat you. They didn't allow 409 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: Renfro or Waller to beat them. It was someone else. 410 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: So you can take away the one, two, three targets 411 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: best pass catchers for that particular offense. I feel much 412 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: better the Cardinals chances. Yeah, if mac Hollins wants to 413 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: lead the Raiders in receiving like I think he did 414 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: most of the game last week, fine, you know what, 415 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: that's great. Cardinals will take that and they'll take the 416 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: w that goes along with it. And to your point, 417 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: think about the Week four win last year at the 418 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: La Rams, Cooper Cup had five grabs non factor. Now, 419 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford missed one kiddy throws think was late third 420 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: quarter that could have been a touchdown, matt It was 421 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: his worst throw maybe all season, Matthew Stafford. But then 422 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: in the rematch in Week fourteen, we talk about Aaron 423 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: Donald and rightfully so many had the fourteen quarterback pressures. Well, 424 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: guess what. Cooper Cup went from a season low five 425 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: grabs too. Then in the rematch with the Cardinals had 426 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: a season I thirteen grabs, so he was a big 427 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: difference in that Rams win as well. Now do I 428 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: expect Vante Adams to travel within the entirety of the game. 429 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: He's definitely going to get help. I think he has 430 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: to get help. There's got to be some bracket coverage, 431 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: some safeties over the top. It's not going to be 432 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: quite that easy. And honestly, minus o bj and the 433 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: fact that Alan Robinson hasn't gotten a lot of traction 434 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: yet in this Rams offense, I think if your ranch, 435 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: you can get away with the extra attention paid to 436 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: a Cooper Cup as long as you feel confident against 437 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee, who has killed the Cardinals at times in 438 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: the past and again has twenty targets in two games. Yeah, 439 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: Higbee targeted nine times last week when the Rams beat 440 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: the Falcons are held off the Falcons, I should say 441 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: thirty one twenty seven. But you've brought up now Matthew 442 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: Stafford and the other intriguing matchup here, and the decision 443 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: that Vance Joseph hasn't before him. Outside of all right, 444 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: does Bayern Murphy travel with Cooper Cup? Does Vance blitz 445 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford? Because the numbers are unbelievable. Again, next gen stats. 446 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know math and all that, Paul, 447 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: and no, this is not pro football focused, but this 448 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: is next gen stats in depth that we received earlier 449 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: this week. With respects to Matthew Stafford and when you 450 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: blitz him, the Cardinals have blitzed this season alone on 451 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: just over forty eight percent of dropbacks in the league, 452 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: most in the National. That's got number one. That's what 453 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph likes to do. He likes to bring five 454 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: and six on a consistent basis. You do that against 455 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and Stafford is going to burn you, and 456 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: he's done so time in and time again. He is 457 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: much better against the blitz than if you just rushed four. Interesting, well, 458 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, live and die by the blitz. Cardinals died 459 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: by it. In Week one, the blitz rate was fifty 460 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: four percent against Patrick Mahomes. That was the next gen 461 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: stat there. That was the highest blitz rate he'd ever 462 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: faced in his career. And you saw what the Chiefs did. 463 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: They scored touchdowns in their first three drives. So, now 464 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: to your point about Matthew Stafford, if you can get 465 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: away with rushing four and dropping seven. Then absolutely, and 466 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what based on JJ Watt in his play, 467 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: and Brian Balderinger has an interesting video out that it 468 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: is worth checking out. You know, from what the second 469 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: snap of the game was obviously the first possession, there's 470 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: JJ Watt was a sack. Zach Allen was so close. 471 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: If you wanted a guy who was both the later 472 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: with a win but a little frustrated about had nearly 473 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: having an epic game, it was ninety four. It was 474 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: Zach Allen. He got so close to getting home several 475 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: times on Derek Carr didn't quite get the sack. Marcus 476 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: Golden got close a couple of times, and if you 477 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: remember Marcus Golden's history, he sort of ramps things up. 478 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: It takes him a game or two and he gets 479 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: closer and closer, and then boom, all of a sudden, 480 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: let's go hunting. He'll get two or three in one game. 481 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: I kind of feel that a little bit from this 482 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals defensive front, and some of that has to do 483 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: with this patchwork Rams offensive line. No Andrew Whitworth, that 484 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: dude I thought was so underrated. Jared Goff, the first gender. 485 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: Sean McVay was a crash test dummy and then with 486 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: the key thing they did was signed Andrew Whitworth and 487 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: he solidified everything. But it's not just that they're missing 488 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: their starting center. Brian Allen, the starting right guard went 489 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: down with a broken ankle. I believe he's done for 490 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: the season. So this should be an offensive line you 491 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: can take advantage of. Akin to what the Raiders offensive 492 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: line came in last week. Missing their starting center, rotating guys, 493 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: a right guard and right tackle, it should be advantage Cardinals. 494 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: It really even minus Chandler Jones this year, we get it. 495 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: But if that's the case, then you should be able 496 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: to rush for get some pressure on Matthew Stafford doesn't 497 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: have nearly the same mobility and escapability as a Patrick Mahomes, 498 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: although they put them on the move. They do a 499 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: great job in moving the pocket and sprintouts and so forth, 500 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: which honestly, I'd love to see the Cardinals do more. 501 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: You know, thanks for asking kel YC Consulting. I'd love 502 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: to see more of the sprint outs and some of 503 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: the stuff that mcveagdoes with Stafford done with Kyler Murray. 504 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: But once again, if you can disguise your defense enough 505 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: and that's always the Cat and Mount game against Sean McVeigh, 506 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: that it isn't so brutally obvious to Matthew Stafford. And 507 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: then get a rush with four. Yeah, I like the 508 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals chances in this game. No starting center, Your starting 509 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: guard is now playing center in Coleman Shelton. Their swing 510 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: tackle is now expected to be playing right guard this 511 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: week talking about the Rams offensive line, So yeah, if 512 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: you can go with just four, whether that's JJ Watt, 513 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: Zach Allen, Marcus Golden and someone else. But how about 514 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: JJ Watt now week two playing more snaps. He was 515 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: only on the field for forty two sixty three percent. 516 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: If he plays more snaps, if Zach Allen plays more 517 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: than the fifty six snaps that he did. Marcus Golden 518 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: played much better and more than he did last week 519 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: than he did in the opener. He is closer to 520 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: one hundred percent after the toe issue. Now, all of 521 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got three solid rushers, add one more, 522 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: get pressure with four, and for what It doesn't make 523 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: a lot of sense until you realize what Kurt Winner 524 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: always did. Blitz me because you know what I see it, 525 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: and before the ball is snap, I know exactly where 526 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: the ball is going. And for the Rams, Paul, when 527 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford sees that blitz, the target more times than 528 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: not is Cooper Cup and that's where Cup does most 529 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: of his damage. As far as the passer rating, Stafford's 530 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: passer rating when targeting Cooper Cup on the blitz one 531 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven point seven. Wow. Wow, that is staggering. 532 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: I thought Richard Lawrence played a good game. His name 533 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: got called quite a bit last week. His get off 534 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: was phenomenal and that that's what he's known for. And 535 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: I thought he got good penetration. And with Matt Burke, 536 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: the defensive line coach of the Cardinals, now he is 537 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: none of this two gaps stuff, hold your guy up 538 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: and play both sides. No, he just get off the 539 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: ball and get upfield. And so Richard Lawrence, that's especially 540 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: I thought he played pretty well. But in talking to 541 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: a number of guys on defense this week, just about McVeagh, 542 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: it's not just the motions and the jet sweeps and 543 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: all the eye candy and trying to see what you're in, 544 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: but it's creating those mismatches and you've seen it at times, 545 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: and it's Penn advantage McVay, where, for example, he in 546 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: the past was really good at getting Jordan Hicks into 547 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: the slot. Now Jordan Hicks, an inside linebacker, was against 548 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: their number three receiver in the slot advantage Rams. That's 549 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do. That's what we mean when 550 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: I say they'll stress and test your defense, your alignment 551 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: and your assignment. And the guy we haven't mentioned yet, 552 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: Zaven Collins. So I'm guessing that McVeigh is gonna target 553 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: Zavan Collins in some way some fashion. See how sound 554 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: he is in his reads. I mean, I think we've 555 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: all been impressed as to the progress he's made so far. 556 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: Now is where he needs to be or should be? 557 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: Is the number sixteen pick overall? We can debate that 558 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: all day. The fact is he's a lot better and 559 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: things have slowed down a lot for Zavan Collins, and 560 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: he's been putting in a lot of work. Jalen Thompson 561 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: told us recently on the Big Red Rage, and I 562 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: confirmed it's still going this week that yeah, they meet 563 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: two three times a week at six six thirty in 564 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: the morning. Zavan Collins with the likes of Buddha Baker 565 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: and Jalen Thompson and they're making sure everything is sound. 566 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, Zaven, They've really tried to simplify things for him, 567 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: and that's the advantage he as over in Isaiah Simmons. 568 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons played so many different spots. Well, they're just 569 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: tasking Zavin Collins with no mic linebacker and he did 570 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: not play every snap. It was first time in his career. Yeah, 571 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: so there you go. And he's wearing the green dot, 572 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: which we confirmed early in that game, so that's a 573 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: big deal. But I had a chance to talk with 574 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: him a little bit this week and he's saying before 575 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: every play, he just takes a deep breath, takes a 576 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: step back, tries to keep it simple, play fast, make 577 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: his reads be instinctual, and if he's not quite one 578 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: hundred percent in that play, gotta move on. You can't 579 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: dwell on it because, hey, you're calling the defense and 580 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: be they're gonna keep coming at you. So you know, 581 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: you can worry about it after the game in film work. 582 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: During the game, you got to be in the moment. 583 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: It's good to see Zaven make that progress here in 584 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: year two, and I think early in year two because 585 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: there were a lot of concerns after last season into 586 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: the offseason. As far as all right, what did the 587 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals draft? They did they draft the right player first 588 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: of all, and then are they putting him in positions 589 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: to be successful. Whether he has the green dot or not, 590 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: to me doesn't really matter. Is he getting on the 591 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: football field? Is he playing enough snaps? And he is? 592 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: You had the green dot and all of a sudden, 593 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: that's more responsibility and he's handled it so far. Question 594 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: is again when you talk about that green dot, and 595 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if it matters too much who's wearing it, 596 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: but you have to be what it does signify though, 597 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: If you are wearing that green dot, you're on the field, 598 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: If not one hundred percent of the time, at least 599 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the time, you are a key 600 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: figure in that defense. And as we've talked about, it 601 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: has to be someone in that middle level. It can't 602 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: be a defensive lineman. Yes, I no, Buddha Baker and 603 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson would be more than capable, but they are 604 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: too far away, not from the action, but just too 605 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: far away from being able to tell everyone else. Those 606 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: guys up front near the line of scrimmage what to do, 607 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: what adjustments to make the It's just easier when you 608 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: can look forward and look back as opposed to shouting 609 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: all the way from the secondary. And you know what, 610 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: if he gets all that down and he's made great progress, 611 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: then look at the stuff you can't teach, you know, 612 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: look at the six four two sixty nearly. Look at 613 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: his ability to go sideline his sideline. Look at his 614 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: ability to cover the tight end and the running back downfield. 615 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: And he's been excellent at that. And so he still 616 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: has to work on the hands and shedding blocks and 617 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 1: not letting guys get into his body. But he's been 618 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: improving from all accounts, you know, on and off the record. 619 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: Talking to guys, they're like, yes, he is making significant progress. 620 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: So that's good. You know what, Honestly, if you can 621 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: stay in the playoff hunt and let him progress. This 622 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: season is all about the end of the season. All 623 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: I have to do is look at Hard Knocks and 624 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: the Hard Knocks cameras coming in now. They're already here. 625 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: But when the show starts premiering in November, everything the 626 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals are about right now and it is truly week 627 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: to week and everything goes into every game plan as 628 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: team knows, it's about November, December, in January and hopefully 629 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: that results in February. So with that in mind, some 630 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: of these guys are getting a lot of snaps knowing 631 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: there's going to be growing pains and they're willing to 632 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: live with that for what they hope is return on 633 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: investment in the latter half of the season. What do 634 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: we say, it's that how you start, it's how you finish. 635 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals have started well the past cup the seasons have 636 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: not finished well. Now. It hasn't been a great start 637 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: this season, and it's difficult to watch a lot of 638 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: the times. But hopefully what we saw in the second 639 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: half last week is more indicative of what this team 640 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: is going to be or currently is right now that 641 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: that second half was really the start of twenty twenty two. 642 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: And think about this. Antonio Hamilton, he's going to be 643 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: back at some point when we don't know exactly, but 644 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: if he regains that form he saw in August where 645 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: he legitimately earned cornerback too, that's gonna be a big help, 646 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: big help. Tray von Mullen, he's just big, period. I 647 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: mean he is a six foot two corner We see 648 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: him in the locker room, You're like, Wow, this guy 649 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: plays corner. That's how you know it's the NFL when 650 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: a guy that size. So if he has the athleticism 651 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: they say, and he gets sound in his playbook, that's 652 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: going to be a huge edition. Trey McBride, who got 653 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: one snap correct one snap against the Raiders and he's 654 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: going to be active again this week. What Max Williams 655 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: had to say in the Big Red Rage is worth 656 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: listening to everyone. I mean, we asked him about Tray McBride. 657 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: I was thinking he'd just get a perfunctory tipical answer 658 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: and media speak, and he gave a glowing report on 659 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: the rookie tight end and how he thinks he's going 660 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: to be special quote end quote, that he really is 661 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: a dual tight end, that he is physical with the 662 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: blocking and we've seen his soft hands. He does not 663 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: fight the football at all. He's athletic. So if you're thinking, okay, 664 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: that guy is gonna come somewhere, you know he's on 665 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: the We never know, like a DRC. His rookie year 666 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: wasn't a factor until Thanksgiving, and he was phenomenally talented. 667 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: You know, every rookie has their own learning curve, so 668 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: and he saw Zavian Collins and Isaiah Simons. The rookie 669 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: years weren't much factors at all. But if Trey McBride 670 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: ends up being what they think he can be and 671 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen until November December, that's fine. But there 672 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: are reinforcements coming and that makes you bullish on where 673 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: this is going as well. And I'll add one more 674 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: offensive player and it's not DeAndre Hopkins. Rondel Moore is 675 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: expected back sooner rather than later. He is not playing 676 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: this week, potential player in Week four, but most likely 677 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: week five against the Eagles. You get him back. And 678 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: what we heard all offseason and it started with you 679 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: talking with coach Sean Jefferson on the big Red rage 680 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: about Rondel Moore on the route tree and everything. But 681 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: we haven't seen that because he hasn't been available. Well 682 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: we have seen is Greg Dortche take those snaps and 683 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: really take off to all of a sudden, you're comfortable. 684 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: You're more than comfortable if you have to play eighty 685 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: three more on the football field because of that chemistry 686 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. It's just not opposing defenses getting dorched. 687 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: It's Rondelle Moore right now who's getting dorched. I e 688 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: Wally pipped. If he doesn't figure it out, you know, 689 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: if he's not able to get back soon. I mean, 690 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: Greg Dortch is carving out a pretty damn good role 691 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: that's going beyond just sort of a situational player. They're 692 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: able to count on him down in and down out 693 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: and downfield. Although I will say, if there's one area 694 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: this offense and everything can improve. But if there's one 695 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: area that I'm a little concerned about right now is 696 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: still concerned about, it's the downfield passing game twenty plus. 697 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: I don't even think, well, they've attempted. I don't know 698 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: if they've completed a twenty plus yard deep shot. They've 699 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: taken a couple, but I don't know if they if 700 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: they've really completed a deep shot as opposed to just 701 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: all right, here's a seven yard throw and all of 702 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: a sudden, that becomes a twenty five plus yard game. Now, 703 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: aj Green at a few opportunities and there are a 704 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: few drops. So that's been there and we'll see if 705 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: they can actually execute that starting this week. And then 706 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: there's that guy who's coming back effective week seven. What's 707 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: that all pros name? DeAndre Hopton starts with an h. Yes, 708 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: So okay, I mean, how can I go through reinforcements 709 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: that are coming and then forget about DeAndre Hopkins. But 710 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: the downfield passing game obviously won't improve to a great 711 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: degree upon his return. But what's it going to look like? 712 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: You know? I mean, if aj Green can get some 713 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: traction again, if Rondale Moore can be a downfield threat, 714 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: if Hollywood Brown continues to evolve, and remember Hollywood Brown 715 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: said about that that pass all Man that he had 716 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: and that fool when we got the big hit from 717 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: the safety. In his words, I torch that guy. I 718 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: really schooled that guy in the route he had three 719 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: yards complete circle around him. Yeah, he just destroyed him. 720 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: So if Hollywood Brown can continue to run routes like that, 721 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: combined with his elite speed and then his chemistry with 722 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray which continues to grow, and his knowledge of 723 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: the offense, then okay, you know, once again, this is 724 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 1: where you start to see where possibly potentially it could 725 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: be going, and you hope that it goes this week 726 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: against the Los Angeles Rams. You get that first win 727 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: within the division improved to two and one, and you 728 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: put a little dents in that Lombardi Trophy, if you will. 729 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: The Rams are starting to feel themselves here in twenty 730 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: twenty two again. One twenty five is the kickoff eight 731 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: thirty am. Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 732 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: You know, the Stanley Cup has it tons of dents 733 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: and dings in it from over the years. Why not 734 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: the Lombardi. I'm with you, you know, go ahead and 735 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: just just drop that thing right there by mistake, you know, 736 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: on the concrete floor and put a big old ding 737 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: in the Lombardi. Sounds good to me, all right. On 738 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition 739 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday, proud partner of 740 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive 741 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: producer Joe Almandro for Paul Calvisi, I'm Craig Riel Loup. 742 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two. 743 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: Shaw