1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs and the Chargers who had a 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: big win on Monday night now come to Kansas City. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: And for the Chiefs, they're trying to hold the fort. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: This addition of defending the kingdom like them all brought 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: to you by Ticketmaster. What a great gift idea. Yep, Ticketmaster, 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. They give it off. Kareem Hunt 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: trying to keep his feet alive. 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Driving near the goline touch down Chansas City. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Mitchelta's Voice of the Chiefs along with 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: senior team reporter Matt McMullin. And yes, it's time to 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: hold the fort. Maybe it's the Alamo going back to 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: March of eighteen thirty six. Those union study Texas history 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: know that, or I don't know. We can throw in 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Masada or Thermopyla or any of those. But the fort's 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: surrounded right now. But it's time to hold the fort, 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: have a home game and get a victory against the Chargers. 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. We know the path for the Chiefs 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: to make the postseason. I'll go over that here in 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: a little bit, but really the only thing that matters 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: right now, and we could talk about all the complicated 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: stuff that's out there. The only thing that matters is 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: we got to beat the Chargers on Sunday and let's 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 3: get back in the win column. 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: Yep. 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: It's been a weird like five or six weeks where 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: we were five and three at one point, feeling really 27 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: good going to Buffalo, thinking we're going to go to 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: Buffalo win and have a nice flight home and then 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: have our bye week. And ever since then, I think 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: we've lost what four or five and just been kind 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: of unchief, like, right, this hasn't gone the way that 32 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: we thought it would. But we are still alive and 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: there's a lot still to play for, and we've been 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: right there with all these teams. I dug up a 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: pretty crazy stat that you'll get a kick out of. 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: So we are tenth in the NFL in point differential. 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I saw it. I know there's really crazy stuff. 38 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Doesn't add up to six and seven. 39 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: No, it certainly doesn't. We actually have an expected record 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: if you do all the math with the point differential 41 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: of eight and four now hasn't played out that way. 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: We've a better point differential than the Jags, Niners, Chargers, Eagles, Bears, Dealers, Cowboys, Ravens, 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: and Buccaneers, just to name a few, or the second 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: team in the Super Bowl era to have a point 45 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: differential of at least sixty but to lose seven of 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: thirteen games, the other being the twenty nineteen Cowboys. So 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: why do I say all this not as an excuse, 48 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: just kind of stating it that this has been a 49 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: weird year where the Houston loss wasn't technically by one score, 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: might as well have been. It was basically a one 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: score game. They kicked a field goal at the very 52 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: end of it. But we've been in all these games, 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: just have not made the plays at the end like 54 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: we normally do to win them. And there's still time left. 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: Let's go make those plays against the Chargers on Sunday. 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little bit to lose three out of 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: four since the point being at five to three, it's 58 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: been a little bit of something different. And it's been 59 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: all three phases, so it's not like, well, gosh, it's 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: this part of the game, or this happened, or this 61 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: has caused it. It's everything. And yet when you crunch 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: the numbers, it accentuates what Pat has said and what 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Andy has said. I is like, it's just so close yeah, 64 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: and so, but the close doesn't count if you don't 65 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: get it done. And this week it's hold the fort 66 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: against the Chargers. We haven't seen them since week one 67 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: in Brazil, and here they come. We'll talk about them 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: in a second. Let's go around the world. How many 69 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: you got, because I've got I'm going to tell you 70 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: a phenomenon that has started, yeah, in the Chief's Kingdom. 71 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: But i'll let you roll. How many? 72 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: Just three for me today? 73 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Three? So Jan Stenerud, who I saw. We don't have 74 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: a number three anymore. That number has been retired. We 75 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of retired numbers. We've talked about that before. 76 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: That's a whole summertime conversation. 77 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, so you're in about ten years too, which 78 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: makes it kind of precarious. 79 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: But anyway, we'll be down to forty seven to the 80 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: third power. But yeah, I saw Yan. It was great. 81 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: He was at the Bill Moss induction the Hall of 82 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Fame this past weekend. So what have we got? Three? 83 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: And I've got four, I believe. 84 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: So shout out to Alaric in the Willametta Valley in Oregon. 85 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: You're probably impressed a lark that I said that correctly. 86 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: Not the william Ette Valley. It rolled out the valley, 87 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: Wilamott Valley. I lived there for a summer in two 88 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: thousand and fifteen working for the Salem Kaiser Volcanoes. Shout 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: out to you, Lark. We heard from Mike and Lincoln 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: last week and you were curious where he went to 91 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: high school. I have the answer for you. He went 92 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 3: to Northeast High School, home of the Rockets. Yeah there 93 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: you go, Yes, yeah, got it. Northeast Rockets, Go Rockets. 94 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: Then shout out to former chief Chris Bober and his 95 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: daughter Hannah. So I had a chance to meet them 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: before the Bill Moss ceremony on Sunday. Hannah listens to DTK, 97 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: came up and said hi, and to you too. I'm 98 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: sure he does, but Hannah was the bigger fan. I 99 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: think he's your real Now. In Omaha, I went to 100 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: Omaha South the Packers. Okay, well because meatpacking plant in 101 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: South Omaha. 102 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, CHRISP. 103 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: Bover, good dude, Yeah, very cool. So great to meet 104 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: you both in shout out to you, Hannah, thanks for. 105 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: College ball at University of Nebraska Omaha, which doesn't have 106 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: football anymore. They dropped it. Yeah. Interesting then they won 107 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: the National Wrestling Championship and dropped wrestling the night they 108 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: won the wrestling title. Yeah, don't get me started on 109 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: that anyway, or don't get anybody started on like a 110 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: funding issue. Yeah, oh man, they couldn't wait. Like the 111 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: next day they go, Now it's over all right, here 112 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: we go. I got a couple too. So if something 113 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: has started, this is a new phenomenon. That is people 114 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: and around the world. We've talked about DTK around the world. 115 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: They will come to a game, they listen to DTK. 116 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: So they checked that. They come to a game pilgrimage, 117 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: check that, and then they stayed for the Chief's Kingdom show. 118 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah on Monday night. This happened last night. We were 119 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: in Lenex at the High V and Lex at eighty 120 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: seventh Street. Petra Gunther, Petro Gunther, who was one of 121 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: Reid's redheads, this blazing red wig. She had on from Bergheim, Germany, Deutschland. Okay, yeah, 122 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: near Cologne. So anyway, Petro Gunther defend a Kingdom defender. 123 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: Shout out to you, Ryan Sheer. You talk about Omaha, 124 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: we got it covered because Omaha South is bober This 125 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Sheer is a longtime chief fan. He grew up 126 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: in Fremont, Nebraska, home of the Tigers, but now he 127 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: lives in Elkhorn, Nebraska, home of the Antlers. But Ryan 128 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: had always want he'd always wanted to do the trifecta. 129 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: So he did it and he came to the Kingdom Show. 130 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: Then Marty and Betsy Wild from Sacramento, California. Now Marty's 131 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: originally from Andover, Kansas. He was original Andover High Trojan, 132 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: not an Andover Central Jaguar. And he married a gal 133 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: from Twin Falls, Idaho. They lived though in Sacramento. They 134 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: had these big giant watch parties there, kind of like 135 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: Big Charlie's and you know, we're sad to hear the 136 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: passing involving Big Charlie's in Philly. But Marty and Betsy 137 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: had these big blowouts in Sacramento, California. They watch and listen, 138 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: but they had this goal go to a game DTK 139 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: their Kingdom Defenders, go to a game and go to 140 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom Show. They were there, and then Annabelle 141 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: and Michael Glenn from Monterey, Mexico. Wow, it's something's going on, 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: but anyway, that's it. Hold the fort Hey you Kingdom Defenders, 143 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: you can you too, can't complete the trifecta. You can 144 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: come to a game and stay for the Chiefs Kingdom show. 145 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: You ever think, uh, these high V workers, you ever 146 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: think they thought they'd be interacting with people from man 147 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: in Germany? Hello? 148 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: And they love it? Yeah, sure they do. They love 149 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: it because they'll kind of hang around, you know, where 150 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: the show's at, and and they will They'll be great. 151 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: Hive has been incredible, but it's become a thing. Yea. 152 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: And so get Mexico, Germany. Who knows anyway, Uh, Sacramento, California, 153 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: nokel types. This is we're holding the Ford here and 154 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: here come the Chargers, a team that, gosh, they've lost 155 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: so much to injury, especially the offensive line that showed 156 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: up in their game last night as we h video 157 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: this on Tuesday. But now they're getting guys back too, 158 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: and Amari and Hampton is a big get back for them. 159 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: He has missed I believe nine games and they put 160 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: him on IR designated to return, and Hampton his back 161 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: so he missed games with an ankle issue. That's a 162 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: big deal for them because they with Jim Harbaugh wanting 163 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: to run the ball I'll get into the stats in 164 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: their second, but this is a run play pass team, 165 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: and then defensively they were really good in forcing Jalen 166 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: Herts into turnover after turnover after turnout. 167 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: A lot to talk about with these guys, you know. 168 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: I think about our season and how from like the 169 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: first minute, we've been trying to climb out of this 170 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: hole that we've dug for ourselves. No began against these 171 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: guys on the third play of the season when Xavier 172 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: got hurt, and from that moment on, we were just 173 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: trying to dig out of this hole. And I would 174 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 3: love nothing more than to close the vortex here in 175 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: this game, to beat these guys convincingly and to win out. 176 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: Before I jump too deep into the Chargers, I thought 177 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 3: it would make sense to go over the postseason path 178 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: for us really quickly and how this game relates to it, 179 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: because it's like the lunch pin. Obviously, we need to 180 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: win our final four games. We need to finish the 181 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: season ten and seven. 182 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: That's a given. 183 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: We need the Colts to lose two of their four 184 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: remaining How about Philip Rivers coming back? Do you ever 185 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: think that would happen? 186 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: No, put that on your twenty twenty five bingo card. Yes, 187 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: who's next? 188 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know crazy, Either Riley Leonard or Philip Rivers 189 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: will from will come back? Yes you will, Phil Simms. 190 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: They have to go to Seattle, play the Niners at home, 191 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: play the Jags at home, and go to Houston. They 192 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: need to lose two of those games. Okay, the Chargers 193 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: obviously need to lose to US as part of us 194 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: winning out. They then need to lose two of the 195 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: remaining three games, with one of those being to the 196 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: Broncos in week eighteen. So those games are at Dallas 197 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: against the Texans at home at Broncos. So if they 198 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: lose at Broncos in week eighteen, lose to US, we 199 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: went out, Colts, lose two games, and they lose to 200 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: either the Cowboys or the Texans. That's the path. That's 201 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: a lot of information. Why do I bring it all up? Well, 202 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: none of that matters if we don't win this game 203 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: against the Chargers, So that all is important. There is 204 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 3: a path, we can see the path. We got to 205 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: win this game first though, and once we win this game, 206 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: hopefully we can start talking about other scenarios as the 207 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: weeks go on. But we got to win this game, 208 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: and it certainly won't be easy because the Chargers are tough, 209 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: Like all these injuries all year would have been very 210 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 3: easy against Philadelphia when Herbert gets sacked seven times and 211 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 3: already has a broken hand to mail it in. Not 212 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: the case, like they like kind of willed themselves to 213 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: a win on Monday, and this will be a tough one. 214 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 3: We're going to have to match and maybe exceed that toughness. 215 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: Which is why that win last night by them was 216 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: so huge, because the scenario you laid out takes a 217 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: drastic difference if they lose last night's game. Yeah, if 218 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: they're sitting there not at nine and four, but at 219 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: eight and five, and we're right there six seven. Anyway, 220 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: that was gigantic last night. And then gosh, all the interceptions. 221 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: But there's something to that, and we'll get into the 222 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: Charger defense here in a minute. But you mentioned the 223 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: seven sacks. Philly was relentless last night, and the Chargers 224 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: lose Tray Pipkins, so he goes down and they've already lost. 225 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: We already Knowshaan Slater and they've lost all Joe, all 226 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: those guys are all gone. They've been trying to piece 227 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: this all together. They do have their skill guys mentioned 228 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: Hampton coming back. Gaston's been good. We know what Lad 229 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: McConkey does. He let his eyes light up against us 230 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. But it's pressuring the quarterback, trying to get 231 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: pressure with four which is what the Eagles did last night. 232 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: There wasn't tons of blitzing going on by them. Seven 233 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: sacks and they still win the game. It's like the 234 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: Dave Craig win with Derek Thomas's six sact game here 235 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: back in the nineties and the Seahawks still went on 236 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: the last play of the game. That's what it felt like. 237 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: But I know you talked to George carloftis there's got 238 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: to be pressure and there's got to be relentless pressure 239 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: all day against Justin Herbert in this game to create 240 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: negative plays at the least to create field position. 241 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm with you. If you look at the 242 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 3: game on Monday, the Eagles pressured Herbert on sixty six 243 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: percent of his dropbacks, and that actually went down from 244 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: where it was earlier in the game. At one point 245 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: he was being pressured on more than seventy percent of 246 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 3: his drop backs, like constantly under pressure, and half of 247 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: that was without blitzing. Wasn't like they were just dialing 248 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: up blitzes every time. They were just getting blown off 249 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage by that Eagles defensive front. And 250 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: you mentioned how they have all these skill guys. So 251 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: they have four different players that have at least five 252 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: hundred receiving yards this year in Maconkee, Keenan, Allen, Quentin, Johnston, 253 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: and Gadsden. Those four combined for seven catches for forty 254 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: nine yards against the Eagles. Why because Herbert had no 255 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: time to find them down the field. Really impressive stuff 256 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: by the Eagles, kind of I don't understand how they 257 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: lost the game, all things considered, with that much pressure 258 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: throughout and creating that many nege understands that'll certainly help. Yeah, 259 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: and Hurts turning the ball over twice on one play, 260 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen that before. But anyway, 261 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: even though it didn't work for the Eagles in that 262 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: game because of the mistakes that they made on top 263 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: of it, the Chiefs have got to find a way 264 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 3: to consistently generate pressure against Hurts or against Herbert rather. 265 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 3: And the good news is the Chief's defense was the 266 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: bright spot in the Houston game. I mean, the Chiefs 267 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: defense gave us every opportunity to win that game. Think 268 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: about the pressure they created on CJ. 269 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: Stroud. 270 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: Ironically, sixty six percent of his dropbacks he was under pressure. 271 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: According to Pro Football Focus, Chris Jones had his best 272 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: game of the season. He had eight pressures in that 273 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 3: game and kind of led the way. I talked to 274 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: George about that. So we got to find a way 275 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 3: to generate pressure in this game. You can't let Herbert 276 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: be comfortable because, as we saw, the dude is a gamer, 277 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 3: he's tough, he's physical, and if there is a way, 278 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: he's going to try to find it. We can't let 279 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: them have opportunities in this game. Got to generate pressure consistently, 280 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: and he was their. 281 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: Leading rusher in that game. He actually did It was 282 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: flashbacks in the Philly game the reason they were able 283 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: to get and Dicker makes every field goal known to 284 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: man seventy ninety eighty thirty thousand, whatever his numbers are, nuts, 285 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: it's nuts, but it was Herbert scrambles, his ability to 286 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: run and get free, just like against us on the 287 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: last play to seal it in the game in Brazil, 288 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: He's not thought to be a runner, but he can 289 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: and he runs with resourcefulness. So you've got to get 290 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: pressure on him. But you can't just let there be 291 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: a middle open for him and let him scramble away. 292 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: You had a chance to talk with George Carloftis. It 293 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: was awesome for George to get that sack in the 294 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: Texan game. It did look like his playoff sack against 295 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Stroud if you remember that was a fourth down play 296 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: that was huge in that game. Is like a thirty 297 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: yard sack that ended up being a turnover. Essentially, George, 298 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: can you roll it up and keep it going and 299 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: you talk to him about it? All right? 300 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: Joined now by George Carloftis. George, obviously, tough result on Sunday, 301 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: but the defense gave us every chance to win. I think, 302 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: especially in the second half. You guys go out there, 303 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: you hold the Texans to like seventeen yards in their 304 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: first five possessions in the second half. What was working 305 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: for the defense all night on Sunday? 306 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: I mean it starts with the game plan and spags 307 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: and practice. 308 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: All the coaches we had a great game plan kind 309 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: of put on, and we weren't really happy with how 310 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: we played against the Cowboys, so we kind of set 311 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: out a goal to play our best football, be detail 312 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: oriented and kind of individualize and play one play at 313 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: a time and execute to the best of our ability. 314 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: I think, you know, that's one of the reasons why 315 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: we had a better game. You know, obviously we'd love 316 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: to get to win, but. 317 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, seemed like Chris kind of fired everybody up. He 318 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: had i think his best game of the season and 319 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: eight pressures and he was everywhere. How did you guys 320 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: kind of follow him into battle there in the second half. 321 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Chris is like, hey, you know, we're 322 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna have to put the team on our back, 323 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: you know, just for the defensive line. You know, coach 324 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: Ree talks about all the time the offensive and defensive 325 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: lines have to dominate in order to give us a chance, right, 326 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: So it was kind of just stemming from that, and 327 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: you know, trying to spark some energy and bring all 328 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: of us together and you know, try to try to 329 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: win the game. 330 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: You know who also had a good game, by my 331 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: estimation is Ashton Jalatti. I think five pressures, played a 332 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: good game. What's impressed you about Ashen this year? And 333 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: kind of how he's grown over the course of the season. 334 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: He's grown a lot, He's gotten better every single week. 335 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: He listens, he studies, he works at it, and he 336 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: works really works at it. So he's been great. 337 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: He's been a great addition. 338 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: He's going to continue to get better and better. 339 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: Now looking forward, tough challenge again against the Chargers. They're 340 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: playing pretty good football right now. Just talk a little 341 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: bit about that challenge and how can we slow them down? 342 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously a team we've played a lot 343 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: in these past few years. Every year we're play them 344 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: twice and the team that we lost to, so we 345 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: have a lot of respect for for them and their 346 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 4: offense and them as a team. You know, they're very 347 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 4: well coached, they're tough, they run the ball well, they 348 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: could pass the ball, so there's a lot of respect 349 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 4: for most of them. 350 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: And last question, just looking toward the end of the 351 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: season here, been a bit of a bumpy road, but 352 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: still a lot to play for and the playoff hope 353 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: still alive. What's the message right now in the locker 354 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: room about kind of taking it one game at a time, 355 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: just controlling. 356 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: What you can control. 357 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: You know, there's no chance of us going to the 358 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: playoff unless we went out. 359 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: And you know it's as simple as that. 360 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: So just one step at a time, one game at 361 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 4: a time, and control what we can control, and then 362 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: we'll see where it's at when. 363 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: It's all over. 364 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: George, I appreciate you. Good luck on Sunday, Absolutely, thank you, George. 365 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: Carloftis can get hot. We've seen this in his career, 366 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: like he'll hit these hot phases, so let's hope he's 367 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: getting into one. 368 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: Especially like late in the season. So really, I think 369 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: every year he's been here, around mid season he really 370 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: turns it on. And my favorite play I talked to 371 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: him after the interview about this. My favorite played defensively 372 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 3: for him against the Texans wasn't necessarily a sack and 373 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: that was awesome, don't get me wrong. But he had 374 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: one tackle on Woody Marx where he blocked Dalton Schultz 375 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: into Marx, stopped him in his tracks, got off the block, 376 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: and then tackled Marx. 377 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. It was pretty cool. The Chargers 378 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: will try to keep carl Loftus on the field. Rest 379 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense really the secret to the Chargers if 380 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: you look how they've managed through all these injuries, is 381 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: they have been second in time of possession, So think 382 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo here. There's some of Buffalo in this Charger DNA 383 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: and their defense. Though, let's jump into their defense. They 384 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: have protected their defense. Their defense is good. In fact, 385 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: the game against Philly was so skewed, this number so 386 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: much was crazy. They went from number one in the 387 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: league the Chargers from the rush rushes and completions by 388 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: their opponent the feust in the league, to fifth, which 389 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: tells you how many snaps Philly got in that game, 390 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: Like how did they lose all those turnovers? However, this 391 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: is a really good Charger defense. The secondary was impressive 392 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: against Philly and two wey two wey polow two. We 393 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: know it gets close here, but toy Polo two he 394 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: is he's quickly becoming one of the top pass rushers 395 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: in this league ten sacks and he was great against 396 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles. So this is a they minimize the defensive exposure. 397 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: But the exposure the defense has have had, they've been outstanding. 398 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: And we know Derwin James Junior is a catalyst for 399 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: this defense where he plays niland of scrimmagery drops in 400 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: coverage and his battles against Kelsey have been legendary. 401 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: And you know a move that's where they worked out 402 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: for them is trading for a way from the Ravens. 403 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: He's been great for that, and our offense are going, yeah, well, 404 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 3: he's the one in that Ravens game back in twenty 405 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 3: twenty one that I stripped. 406 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: Clud Yeah, and that's why they wanted to win that game. Yeah, 407 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: thank you for that. 408 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 3: That's one of those steering wheel pounders, you know. For 409 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: some reason, even though it's like largely inconsequential in the 410 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: grand scheme of things, there's like certain games over the 411 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 3: Chief's run of success over the years that's still like 412 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: I have like, you know, night sweats about I'm just like, ah, 413 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: I think about it. That's one of those games anyway, 414 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: always been good for them. He's third on this team 415 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: in pressures in just eight games, with twenty one six 416 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: pressures against the Eagles on Monday, and he's second in 417 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: sacks on this team with five despite being there only 418 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: about half the season. So their pass rush is pretty good. 419 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: Kind of be a challenge for our offensive line again. 420 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: Feels like every single week we're facing these incredible pass rushes. 421 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: I mean, how about Sapole. Against the Texans last week, 422 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: our guys really stepped up. I thought, in the midst 423 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: of a really tough situation, like when Wanye gets hurt 424 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: on the first snap, you just throw your arms up 425 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: like are you kidding me? You know, and then Pole 426 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: goes in and really holds his own. I thought the 427 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 3: rest of the offensive line did a good job overall, 428 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: considering the circumstances. I don't think the Houston pass rush 429 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: is why we lost that game. It was other things 430 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: like drops or just not executing in situations like we 431 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 3: should be. And I think this game will be similar, 432 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: where our offensive line has to go out there give 433 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: us an opportunity to execute. But like I've said every 434 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: week now, I feel like I'm beating a dead horse 435 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: at this point. But we've got to execute in these 436 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: situations when it matters most, and the Chiefs have been 437 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: so good about that for years. This year just hasn't 438 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: been the case. Got to protect against this defensive front, 439 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: and when we have those opportunities, you got to execute and. 440 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: Get them off the field. Get another third and long. 441 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: We're near the bottom of the league. We're thirtieth in 442 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: the league in third down or six or more of 443 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: allowing that to be first downs. And we saw it 444 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: in Brazil. These guys did it over and over and 445 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: over again. But we also saw it earlier than that, 446 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: even in the preseason. But Sapole, you and I liked him, Yeah, 447 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: we did. We liked him. In OTAs, We're like, who 448 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: is this guy? Hasn't played hardly any football if you 449 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: really look at it, and in context, everybody else played 450 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: at Washington State undrafted free agent. We're like, oh, and 451 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: then we were in sack cloth and ashes when he 452 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: was claimed and we got him back. Now that's a 453 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: miracle that we got the dude back. But we're excited 454 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: about him. Although now they've got tape on him. So 455 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: watch every little thing that Essa does. But he's a 456 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: powerful athletic guy, and so let's see what he can 457 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: do this week against the guys that we mentioned, because 458 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: they've got that three for two going as well. Yeah, 459 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: with Olway with a twoey below two and Khalil Mack 460 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: still got some gas in the tank. So but Essa, 461 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: hang in there, man, keep crooking. Another guy that we've 462 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: got on the scene, he's checking it all out, is 463 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: our guy Ari Wolf. And you had a chance to 464 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: catch up with Ari Spy versus Spy. 465 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: Hello to everyone, and welcome to out West with Ari Wolfe. 466 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: Excited to talk about the chiefs in AFC West with 467 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: my friend Matt mcmollen. It is we fifteen. The season 468 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: is flying by, and what a strange season it's been 469 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: in the AFC West. Things have just been flipped. The 470 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: Broncos win again in a game. The final score was 471 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: twenty four seventeen. It didn't seem like there was ever 472 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 2: any doubt with their win against the Raiders. Business as 473 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: usual in the sence, they get a win, but a 474 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 2: less stressful win this week for the Broncos. They were 475 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: in control for the entire game. The Raiders with a 476 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: little bit of a rally late. Denver is really setting 477 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: itself up to contend for the number one seed. Anything 478 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: specific that you took away from the game between the 479 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: Broncos and the. 480 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: Raiders, well, I think if you include the bye week, 481 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: so in terms of like calendar weeks, it was the 482 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: first time in six weeks that the Broncos won by 483 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: more than a field goal, which is crazy, right. I 484 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: was looking up some point differential stuff earlier today to 485 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: see kind of where the Chiefs ranked, which they're tenth 486 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: in the NFL, and point differential by the way in 487 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: six and seven, which try to figure that one out, 488 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: But right, the Broncos point differential is like ten points 489 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: better than the Chiefs, And I mean that stat alone 490 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: shows you how slim the margin is. Right where the 491 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: Broncos have outscored their opponents by ten more points than 492 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: the Chiefs this year. They're talking about fighting for the 493 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: one seed and we're talking about fighting for our playoff lives. 494 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: I'll give the Broncos credit, didn't really need to do 495 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 3: it here in this game, but all year long, they've 496 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 3: made the plays when it matters most and we haven't. 497 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: You know, I'm just being honest about it, And in 498 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: this game, I'm with you. The Broncos are clearly the 499 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: better team. Weird year for the Raiders, that continues to 500 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: be a weird year for them. I expect some probably 501 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: major changes at some point out there. 502 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure Pete Carroll survives, but we'll wait 503 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: and see them what Tom Brady and ownership wants to 504 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 2: do there all Right. Next up, in a game that 505 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: was critical for the Chiefs and their playoff hopes, the 506 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers play the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday Night. 507 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: And if you'd never seen an NFL football game and 508 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 2: you watch this one, you think, wow, it's exciting. But wow, 509 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: I guess turnovers just happen all the time, six of 510 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: them in the second quarter alone. Herds had a play 511 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: where he had two turnovers on the same play. I've 512 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: never seen that before. Throw a pick, the guy who 513 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: picks it off, fumbles, the football, hurts, recovers, he fumbles 514 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: Chargers football. It was a crazy game. It was an 515 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: emotional roller coaster. I still haven't recovered from it. What 516 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: do you think of the Monday night game between the 517 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: Eagles and the Chargers. 518 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: You know, the good people at the Elias Sports Bureau 519 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: looked into that. I'm pretty sure it's the only time 520 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: in NFL history, as far as we know that things 521 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: have been recorded, that a player has turned the ball 522 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 3: over twice on one play, which not necessarily the kind 523 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: of history you want to make, you know, Ari, I 524 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 3: don't like rooting for the Eagles. It was not a 525 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 3: fun experience for me, and there was no payoff at 526 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: the end, and this experience I felt gross the entire 527 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 3: time doing it. And then the way the game ended, 528 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: I'm kind of like, that's what I deserved rooting for 529 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: the Eagles here tonight. Bizarre. You know, despite all the 530 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 3: turnovers for Philly still had a chance in that game. 531 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: They had seven sacks on Justin Herbert. The offensive line 532 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: for the Chargers obviously continues to be an issue, and 533 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: they keep losing players who lost Trey Pipkins in that game. 534 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 3: I respect Herbert, I always have, but man, I mean 535 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: he really put the team on his back right with 536 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: a broken hand, all those Reid options, just kind of 537 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: putting his body on the line, and again he found 538 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: a way to win that game for the Chargers. You know, 539 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 3: we've seen that kind of mentality from Mahomes time and 540 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 3: time again over the years, where he's like, I'm not 541 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: going to lose this game. That was kind of Herbert 542 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 3: on Monday night. But despite all that, the Eagles had 543 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 3: a chance to win it from like the ten yard line, 544 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: and I just don't really understand the decision there by hurts. 545 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: I get everything's going to million miles an hour, but 546 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: to throw the ball up for grabs their costly mistake 547 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: and cost him the game. Three losses in a row. 548 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: For them yeah, they they've got they've got time to 549 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: figure it out. But I tell you the Chargers you 550 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: mentioned with Herbert. To me, it's he is both physical 551 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: and mental toughness. Nothing seems to rattle him, and you know, 552 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: at times I've been disappointed in him. I thought his 553 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: play off performance last year was just, you know, about 554 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: a bad a game as you're gonna have it through 555 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: four picks against the Texans. But this year he's not 556 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: putting the ball in harm's way as much, and he's 557 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: getting absolutely physically beat up week after week. So I 558 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: applaud Herbert. I thought coach Harbaugh's reaction out of the 559 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: game was typical craziness. He said it was up there 560 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: with like getting married in the birth of his kids. 561 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure was that exciting. Got to give the 562 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: Chargers are nine and four right now, in that the 563 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: current number five seed for the playoffs. I still think 564 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: they're a pretender. I don't think they're like a Super 565 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: Bowl contender. But I got to give Justin Herbert his credit. 566 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: I know you and Mitchell a great job talking about 567 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: the game that just passed, but I did want to 568 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: give one comment on the Texans versus the Chiefs, and that, 569 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: given how banged up the Chiefs offensive line was, those 570 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: guys did great. I mean, the reason that the Chiefs 571 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: lost the game is not because the offensive line didn't 572 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: protect Patrick. I thought, you put those guys in there. 573 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: I mean when Lanya Morris went out, I thought, Wow, 574 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: I'm in this is going to be a nightmare with 575 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: the Houston defense. I thought the guys that went in 576 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: there played their tails off and gave the Chiefs a 577 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: chance to win. Now, there were a lot of things 578 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: that didn't go right. There were some key drops by 579 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: both Travis Kelcey and Rashi Rice. Definitely wasn't Patrick's best game, 580 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: But I really want to give that offensive line some 581 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: props because I think everybody thought that was going to 582 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: be the reason they lost the game, and those guys 583 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: battled and gave the Chiefs a chance to win. 584 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, the narrative going into the game, and it was 585 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: further amplified when Wan Ye got hurt, is that the 586 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 3: Houston defensive front is going to dominate the whole game, right, 587 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 3: And really I think it was the opposite where the 588 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: Chiefs defensive line was the one dominating in that game. 589 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: I think CJ. Strad was under pressure like sixty six 590 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 3: percent of the time, particularly to begin in the second half. 591 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: Our defense was awesome and gave us every chance to 592 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 3: get back into the game, which we did, and gave 593 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: us opportunities to win the game in the offensive line. 594 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: At the same time, I think gave our offense opportunities. 595 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 3: Istapoul to go out there in his first ever regular 596 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: season NFL game as an undrafted rookie free agent and oh, 597 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: Danil Hunter is on the other side of you, and 598 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 3: for him to hold his own like he did. I 599 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: looked it up on PFF. I don't have it in 600 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: front of me right now, but I think he had 601 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: forty two pass blocking snaps, allowed, three pressures, zero sacks, 602 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: I think like one quarterback hit. That's unbelievable for a 603 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 3: guy going in there for his first ever regular season 604 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: action against the defense like that. So yeah. Unfortunately, though, 605 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: that game is another example of the story of our season. 606 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: Right where we had chances, we had opportunities, guys stepped 607 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: up and put us in a position to win the game, 608 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: and so uncharacteristically we didn't see those opportunities, unfortunately, and 609 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: that's just been the story of the season so far. 610 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: Let'll see if we can turn that around here over 611 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: the final four games. 612 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: And Chief Kingdom, I want to give Matt McMullen a 613 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: little credit right here. So very first conversation, which I 614 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: consider my Chief Summit, is always about forty eight hours 615 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: before I get to training camp, and that conversation we 616 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: cover the entire roster. And one of my takeaways from 617 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: that conversation is Matt said, there's an undrafted tackle, Isa Pole, 618 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: who's really got some talent. You were like, I don't 619 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: think he's gonna make the team, but hopefully they can 620 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: hide him on the practice squad. Let me tell you, 621 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: sometimes you got to throw a guy in and see 622 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: if he can do it. He delivered, and he is 623 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: a big, big man over there, and who knows, maybe 624 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: he is the answer at one of the tackle spots. 625 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: And boy, that would make Brett Veach's job a lot 626 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: easier going into the offseason no matter what happens here, 627 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: to know that you've got another tackle in house who 628 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: maybe you can build around, because we obviously expect Simmons 629 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: to come back and he'll be on the left side, 630 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: but the right side is we don't know for next season. 631 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: I heard it first from you, Matt's He's got some 632 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: real potential. He was impressive on Sunday night. 633 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 634 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 3: I mean it was one of those throw your hands 635 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: up kind of things where when Wanyer gets hurt on 636 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: the first play of the game and we already were 637 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: down all these offensive linemen and you put Pole in, 638 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 3: It's like, well, let's just let's just see how he does. 639 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: You know, like, no pressure, man, there's no expectations here. 640 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: Just go out there and I'll see how he does. 641 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: And he like blew me away, like wow, Okay, that 642 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: was great. It's almost one of those things where if 643 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: you start the year as a starter along the offensive 644 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: line as a rookie, you know, the first game of 645 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: the year, there's jitters, there's expectations, like that's almost a 646 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 3: lot of pressure where in that situation for Pole, a listen, man, 647 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: just go in there, let's see how you do. And 648 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: he nailed it. For him, it's a matter of kind 649 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: of stacking that, like if he gets an opportunity to 650 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: play on Sunday against the Chargers. As we record this, 651 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what the injury situation is with Juwan 652 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 3: Taylor and everything, so I don't know if he's going 653 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: to play. But if he does, and whenever he gets 654 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: another opportunity, just go out there and try to build 655 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: on that. But yeah, really solid debut from him, and 656 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: you know, in a game and largely a season where 657 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: there's not a ton of things to really hang your 658 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: hat on, that's a major positive. And looking toward the future, 659 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: I'm excited about him. So we'll see. But yeah, I 660 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: think that's one of your your major positives from Sunday 661 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: for sure. 662 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I brought up a whole lot offensive line. 663 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: Then I might get the pole a like that is 664 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: some really good stuff for Chief Kingdom to be bullish 665 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: about as we move forward. All Right, I thought the 666 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: best game from this past weekend was a really entertaining 667 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: Cincinnati at Buffalo game. Joe Burrow looked amazing. I mean, 668 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: like the best I've ever seen him play. They're up 669 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: twenty eight to eighteen, and then somehow back to back 670 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: throw is basically he gets picked off the Bills rally 671 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: to win. I mean, Alan puts a four total touchdowns 672 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: quarterback rating just a hair under one forty. You know, 673 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: because I feel like the AFC isn't as good as 674 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: it's been and it is a quarterback heavy conference with 675 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: some of the best. It was really fun watching Burrow 676 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: and Allen go toe to toe. In the end, the 677 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: Bills win thirty nine to thirty four. But if you 678 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: love offense and great quarterback play, it was on display 679 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: in Buffalo over the weekend. 680 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: That's another one where if it was your first time 681 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: ever watching football, you'd be like, this is electric. Yeah, 682 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: so many things happening. 683 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: This is crazy. 684 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: It's like a basketball game, you know. 685 00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 686 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: That was one of those things where I don't think 687 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: Josh Allen had ever Beaten Burrow right. 688 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: Right, zero to two against him, I believe, coming in. 689 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure a lot of those Bills fans 690 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: were seeing flashes of that Divisional round playoff game a 691 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: couple of years ago, also in the snow, and the 692 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: Bengals came in and just kind of it was never 693 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: in doubt. The Bengals looked like they were going to 694 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: run away with it. I mean, their offense was like unstoppable. 695 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: The Bills were reeling. Josh Allen had to make that 696 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: like miraculous throw on fourth down just to keep him 697 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: in it. But then it just shows you again the 698 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: margin in the NFL where you can play so well 699 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: for so long and kind of dominate the game, and 700 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: if you make just a couple of bad decisions, everything 701 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: can flip on its head when you're playing a pretty 702 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: good football team. And from there, the Bengals just totally imploded, 703 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: like they had it and imploded. And unfortunately, you know, 704 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: I didn't think because the Bills having the tiebreaker over 705 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: us with the head to head, I didn't think it 706 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: was realistic to think we'd catch the Bills. But still, 707 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: I'm ashamed to say I was rooting for the Bengals 708 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: in that game. Again, felt kind of gross doing that, 709 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 3: but you know, you want these teams that were in 710 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: the wildcard ahead of us, that are in a manageable 711 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: range to lose. So I'm like, all right, well the 712 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: Bengals will win, and you know, we'll be one game closer, 713 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: and the lost column to Buffalo. Then that implosion happens. 714 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: Then Sunday Night happens when the Eagles blow it on 715 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: Monday night. Hopefully things go better this weekend for me. 716 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: My rooting interests were not satisfied this past weekend. 717 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a challenging NFL weekend. I will agree 718 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: with either let's go to next week a super sexy 719 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: game two of the top teams. Who got the Green 720 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 2: Bay Packers at the Denver Broncos Broncocos. You know, they 721 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: just keep winning, but the Packers have really made a 722 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: statement of late on Thanksgiving they do go to Detroit 723 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: and win. This is a potential super Bowl matchup. It's 724 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: not actually why I think it's going to be in 725 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: the super Bowl, but in theory it could be two 726 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: teams that are both playing real well, what are your 727 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: thoughts on the Packers and the Broncos. 728 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: It'd be a rematch of one of the late nineties 729 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: Super Bowls? Right, didn't the Packers and Broncos play in 730 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: the late nineties and the Super Bowl? 731 00:33:59,680 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 732 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: Yes, you know, for my sanity, I certainly hope it's 733 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 3: not a super Bowl preview. But it will be a 734 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 3: great game. This is at Lambeau right, Oh I thought 735 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 3: it was a Denver. Is it at Denver? 736 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: Okavored by two and a half? 737 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but interesting? Okay, So she just shows you, you know, 738 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: I know what. 739 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: I will talk a munch about gambling here, but it 740 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: always tells me something to read the line, like what 741 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: is the what's the country's pulse on it, and to me, 742 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 2: it says that people aren't sold yet on the Broncos, 743 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: that they're two and a half point underdogs at home. 744 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: It'll be interesting. I think it'll be a great game 745 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: from a Chief perspective. And this is honestly looking maybe 746 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 3: too far ahead, but you know, if you're looking at 747 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: the whole path for the Chiefs to make the playoffs, Yep, 748 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: no matter what. Pretty much at this point, we're going 749 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: to need the Broncos to beat the Chargers in Week eighteen. 750 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: That's the impact of that Eagles game, where now there's 751 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 3: not a lot of wiggle room there to get the 752 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 3: Chargers some more losses without having to lose that game 753 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: because of tiebreakers. We need the Broncos to beat the 754 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: Chargers in Week eighteen, and the fear of is that 755 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 3: the Broncos will have nothing to play for and they'll 756 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: rest their starters. Well, if the Broncos are still right 757 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: there with the Patriots fighting for the one seed, they'll 758 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: have to play their starters, and obviously that benefits us. 759 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: So if you look at the Patriots schedule, they've got 760 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: the Bills left and they've got the Ravens two tough games. 761 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 3: I think, say what you want to about the Ravens, 762 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 3: it's still Lamar Jackson and is still the Ravens. Like, 763 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 3: that's not an easy game. So depending on how these 764 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 3: things go, I guess I wouldn't mind if the Broncos lost, 765 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 3: but I think we're rooting for him in this game. 766 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: If you think maybe the Patriots lose one more game, 767 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 3: of course, we're hoping we beat the Broncos in a 768 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 3: couple weeks. So yeah, I think I want the Broncos 769 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 3: to win, but I might be big bringing in this. 770 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 3: It's a tough one to figure out. 771 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: Fair enough, the Raiders head to Philadelphia, Eagles will be 772 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 2: on our short week. I can't do any mental gymnastics 773 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: that leads me to believe the Raiders can win this game. 774 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: I actually think the Eagles defense and whether it's Gino 775 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: or whether it's Kenny Pickett, I just don't see the 776 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: Raiders is winning another game this season. In fact, you 777 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: can make a case why would you want to win 778 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: another game? 779 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: Right? 780 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 2: Like, you want to have as high a draft position 781 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 2: as possible. You're definitely going to finish in last place 782 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: in the West. You'll continue to have a last play schedule, 783 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: But I don't see how the Raiders win in Philly. 784 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: To me, it's a get right game for the Eagles, though, 785 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: you know, I'd be curious what their emotional state is Philadelphia. 786 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: Can you find a scenario where the Raiders going to 787 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: Philadelphia and win on Sunday? 788 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: Now? 789 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: But as as someone, as someone that at times enjoys chaos, 790 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 3: what would the Philadelphia Eagles fan base response be if 791 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: they lost their fourth game in a row and it 792 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 3: was to the Raiders. As someone that spent a lot 793 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 3: of time in Philly, what would that be like? 794 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 2: I mean, short of burning down the lake, I mean, yeah, 795 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be good. 796 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 797 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 2: I mean for as much as I think being a 798 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: Philadelphia professional sports athlete is awesome in the good times, 799 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: I think that is completely washed out by what it's 800 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: like in the bad times. It's it's a time look there, 801 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: the passion is there, the cares. But you know what 802 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 2: always just tears me apart is the booing of your 803 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 2: own team. I just I'll never support that in any situation. 804 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 2: So just know this, if they have even a three 805 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 2: and out to start the game against the Raiders, it'll 806 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: be ugly. I mean, the Boo Birds will be out, 807 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 2: So if the Raiders can just hang around, Suddenly, the 808 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: Eagles are under self inflicted pressure at home because of 809 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 2: the way the fan base treats the team. So again, 810 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: if you're hoping for a crazy upset, just let the 811 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: Raiders get off to a decent start and that the 812 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: temperature in the link will not be pleasant for the 813 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: players and coaches. 814 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe the Raider I kind of hope it happens. 815 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 3: It'd be great. 816 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: You guys covered the Chargers and the Chiefs. To me, 817 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 2: the best game coming up this week. I do think 818 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 2: Lions and Rams is great, but we're only gonna focus 819 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: on one this week, the rematch of the Bills and 820 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 2: the Pagetreets. So the Patriots went to Buffalo and won 821 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: twenty five to nineteen back on October fifth. Uh Stefan 822 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 2: Diggs had a huge game in that game, ten catches, 823 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty six yards. Both quarterbacks. Play was 824 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: pretty good. What really came down was turnover margin. It 825 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: was plus two for the Patriots. This is a huge 826 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 2: game for Bill's mafia, right, I mean, if you think 827 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 2: you're sort of the Super Bowl team, well now you're 828 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 2: getting a chance against New England, who I don't think 829 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: you're gonna catch no matter what. But do you think 830 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: this is a game for Buffalo that they think is 831 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 2: really important to be like, hey, we're still one of 832 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 2: the bullies in the AFC East. It feels like this game, 833 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: while it's not necessarily going to affect either team being 834 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 2: a playoff team, it feels like it's going to set 835 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: the tone for the future. 836 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: In that division. 837 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I think it's really important for both teams 838 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 3: for a couple of different reasons. So for Buffalo, I 839 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 3: totally agree with you, where even though they're probably not 840 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 3: going to win their division this year, I think they 841 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 3: still have this kind of aura of confidence around them 842 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: that they are the team in that division, right, and 843 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 3: if you get swept by the Patriots, I don't know, 844 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: that's difficult to kind of keep that aura if you 845 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 3: get swept by these team and you don't finish in 846 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: first place in your division. I mean, so, yeah, I 847 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of pressure on the Bills for 848 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 3: that reason. For the Patriots, It's interesting though, because we 849 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 3: definitely look at them differently now than we did maybe 850 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 3: right even after that win over the Bills, where when 851 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 3: they won that game. I think we all kind of 852 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 3: thought they were going to lose that game, right, and 853 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 3: when they win it, we're like, wow, good for them, 854 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 3: Like look at that, like they found a way to 855 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 3: win that game. I don't think we looked at them 856 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: then as like, man, this is a team that could 857 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl, right And if we're just being honest, 858 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 3: if you look at the Patriots schedule other than that win, 859 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: they beat the Saints, the Titans, Browns, Falcons, Buccaneers is 860 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 3: a pretty good win. Beat the Jets beat the Bengals 861 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: to Burrow play in that game. No, No, I don't 862 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 3: think so. 863 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 2: He's only been back for two games, right, So yeah. 864 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: So beat the Bengals with Flacco, I'm guessing, and they 865 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 3: beat the Giants. So listen, you can only play who's 866 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 3: on your schedule. But this is not an incredibly impressive 867 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 3: body of work. Beyond that Bills win, So can they 868 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 3: go out there and do it again? Because I almost 869 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 3: feel like the Bills again are the best team they're 870 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 3: going to play all year in the regular season, and 871 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 3: can they go out there and beat them at home? 872 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 3: That's the question. And if the Bills win this game 873 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 3: convincingly that creates some questions I think about the Patriots, 874 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: so I think there's pressure on both themes and it 875 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 3: should be a great game. Again, from a Chief perspective, 876 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: you need the Patriots to stay in this one seed conversation. 877 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 3: So however that works out with Denver, I don't know 878 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: the answer, but need them to stay in the conversation 879 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 3: for the one seed. So I guess I want them 880 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 3: to win this game, but they play Baltimore next week, 881 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 3: So I think if you're a Chiefs fan, you want 882 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 3: the Patriots to either lose this week or next week 883 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 3: and stay on par with Denver. 884 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: I never thought i'd say something to Patriot fans, but 885 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, Patriots fans enjoy this right now 886 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: because next year you're going to play the schedule of 887 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: a team that wins its division and everyone's going to 888 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: be gunning for you. So I always feel like the 889 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 2: first year of greatness is the most fun for the 890 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 2: fans because you're not expecting it. I mean, I think 891 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 2: people might have been think that this team would be 892 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: a lot better than it was last year. Now you 893 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 2: got Rabel there, or May's got another year under him, 894 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 2: but it won't be as fun as this, it's the 895 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: most fun when it comes out of nowhere. Expectations are 896 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: just mind blown. You're like, this is the most fun 897 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: football season ever looked. I know they're fans have had 898 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 2: plenty of success going back to Belichick and Brady, but 899 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody saw them rebounding this season quite 900 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: this way. So it should be an amazing atmosphere in Foxborough. Okay, 901 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 2: So that is that A look A quick look at 902 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 2: the wildcard Chargers at five, Buffalo at six, Houston at seven, 903 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: Indy Is at eight. I feel terrible for Daniel Jones, 904 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: and really I'm a little empathetic to the whole Colts 905 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 2: organization to be where they were right. Shane Stikeen was 906 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 2: my Coach of the Year, Jonathan Taylor was my Offensive 907 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 2: Player of the Year, and Daniel Jones was my Comeback 908 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 2: Player of the Year. None of them are gonna win 909 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: any of those awards anymore. It's got to be hard 910 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: times in Indianapolis and losing Daniel Jones to that type 911 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: of injury. I realized that the Chiefs beat the Colts, 912 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: you'd have them in a tiebreak, But how about heartbreak 913 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 2: city for the Colts this year after such an incredible start. 914 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it shows how cruel the sport can be. 915 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 3: Right where you get off to an amazing star, you're 916 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 3: feeling really good, you make that big trade to get 917 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner, you mortgage future assets to go for it, 918 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: and man, I mean it's scary that you're always just 919 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 3: a couple of freak things away from all that going 920 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 3: up in smoke. And now Philip Rivers is coming back, 921 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 3: I guess, and going to try to quarterback them through 922 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 3: the final four weeks of the year. We'll see what 923 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 3: happens there. Their schedule was already really tough. We talked 924 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 3: about that a couple weeks ago. And now, I mean, 925 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 3: your best bet is either a rookie dealing with an 926 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 3: injury and Riley Leonard and then Philip Rivers, who's forty 927 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 3: four years old, just tough. So shows out cruel this 928 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: game can be. And honestly, it makes me feel so 929 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 3: fortunate that the Chiefs have had these incredible seasons over 930 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 3: the years and they've been able to finish it and 931 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 3: find a way to finish it, and we've been healthy 932 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 3: enough to finish it. I look back on past years 933 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 3: that we started off kind of like the Colts did 934 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 3: this year, and we were able to have the payoff 935 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 3: at the end, and it just has to be devastating 936 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 3: for people out there that have I did so much 937 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 3: time and effort and excitement into that team for everything 938 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: to kind of just implode. Uh So, yeah, it's tough. 939 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 3: Shows how difficult and kind of how ruthless this game 940 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 3: can be. 941 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 2: Well, that brings me to my final thought, and it 942 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 2: has to do with the pain of being a fan 943 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 2: in its truest sense. Being a fan is short for 944 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 2: a fanatic, which means you're kind of overtly emotionally invested 945 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: in the outcome of things. And from just I can 946 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 2: remember as just a small kid, all of sports mattered 947 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: so much to me. It literally I would watch a 948 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: game and I'd either be jumping up and down or 949 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: I'd literally be crying in like a fetal position. It's 950 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 2: happened countless times over the years. That when I remember 951 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 2: most early in my childhood is my first favorite athlete 952 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: was Julius Irving, doctor J I just thought he was 953 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 2: the coolest guy who ever played any sport. And I 954 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: can remember his final year when they lost in the playoffs, 955 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 2: and I just I was inconsolable. I just kept crying 956 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 2: and crying and crying. I was never going to get 957 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 2: to see my favorite player again. And there have just 958 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 2: been countless moments along my life journey. So let's say 959 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 2: that was fifty years ago that my love of sports 960 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 2: has only grown. But boy, the agony of sports, the 961 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 2: emotional roller coaster. And I know Chiefs Kingdom has felt 962 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: it this year, all these past recent years, when the 963 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 2: game was close and you're nearing the end, you had 964 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 2: this feeling of invincibility. You had Patrick Mahomes right, he 965 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 2: is the Michael Jordan of the NFL. And I'm watching 966 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 2: that game on Sunday night, and the emotional roller coaster 967 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: that went on inside of me over the course of 968 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: those three hours, I don't know if there's anything else 969 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 2: in life that compares to it. And the joy is incredible. 970 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 2: We'll get me wrong. Seeing the Chiefs win Super Bowls 971 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 2: best thing ever. But wow, when it doesn't go well, 972 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 2: it really hurts deep. And I've talked to you about 973 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: this off air that you don't want your job to 974 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 2: take over emotionally the things outside of your job, right, 975 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 2: you still want to be a great partner, You want 976 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 2: to be a great son, You want to be a 977 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 2: great friend, you want to be all those things. But 978 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 2: when you care as deeply and yours entrenched in sports 979 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 2: as we are, sometimes that line is kind of blurry. 980 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 2: And I got to tell you Sunday night, I had 981 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: to put my kids to bed before the end of 982 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 2: the game, and I can tell you my good night kiss, 983 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: and my good night was not nearly as warm and 984 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 2: fuzzy as it would normally be. So really, this is 985 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 2: just me trying to be empathetic to all of chiefs nations. 986 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 2: Just know there are sunnier days ahead and this team 987 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: could still make the playoffs. In in my mind, they 988 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 2: could do anything if they get in the dance. But 989 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: just know that just because we work in sports doesn't 990 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 2: mean we don't feel the same pain that you do. 991 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 2: We absolutely do, so I understand the pain of being 992 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 2: a sports fan. I wouldn't trade it in for anything, 993 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 2: but just know I understand the pain. 994 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: And that is my final thought. 995 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 3: That's a great one, you know. I think I will 996 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 3: tag it with a similar final thought, and that you know, 997 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 3: you and I really kind of live this, right, Mitch, 998 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 3: is the same way. You're right that it is smart, 999 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 3: and it is probably much healthier to have a divide 1000 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 3: a clear boundary between this stuff and like your life. 1001 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 3: And some people have that, and it's great. I'm very 1002 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 3: happy for them. We really don't. I love this team. 1003 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 3: I love everything about it. I love being a part 1004 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 3: of it. And when they win and we find success, 1005 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 3: it's the best thing in the world. And when we struggle, 1006 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 3: you feel that, right, because if you didn't feel it 1007 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 3: when you're losing, you can't look at me and say 1008 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 3: that you're feeling it when you win. Like if you're 1009 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 3: going to feel on top of the world when we 1010 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl, you're going to feel down in 1011 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 3: the dumps when we lose games that otherwise I felt 1012 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 3: like we should have won games that have put us 1013 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 3: in a really kind of precarious position here in the 1014 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 3: postseason chase, and it stinks. It's a bummer. And one 1015 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 3: thing I try to do in my role is communicate 1016 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 3: to all of you listening that I care about this 1017 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 3: as much as you do. I grew up in Kansas City. 1018 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,919 Speaker 3: I love this team. I would be living and dying 1019 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 3: this team even if I didn't work here. I remember 1020 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 3: when the Colts lost or when the Chiefs lost to 1021 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 3: the Colts in the playoffs back in twenty thirteen. We 1022 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 3: had this huge lead, right we were up twenty eight 1023 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 3: to ten and just completely imploded and the Colts came 1024 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 3: back and won and I was like a wreck for 1025 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 3: like weeks. That was a wild Card round game, you know, 1026 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 3: And I just would like everyone to know that, you know, 1027 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 3: we wear this as much as everyone else does, and yeah, 1028 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 3: it hurts and it's hard. But at the same time, 1029 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 3: I heard Mitch say this a couple of days ago. 1030 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 3: When you encounter situations like this, there's a couple of 1031 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 3: different ways that you could handle it. You can be 1032 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 3: really mad and just like throwing things and upset, and 1033 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 3: I get it if that's how you feel. You can 1034 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 3: be apathetic, which might be the worst thing, where you're 1035 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: just like nah, whatever. Or you can think, Okay, how 1036 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 3: can things turn around? How can we get back to 1037 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 3: what I think this team can be? And that's the 1038 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 3: mindset I think everyone in this building has, and that's 1039 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 3: the mindset you and I have. And it's all about 1040 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 3: here are the things that were good, here are the 1041 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 3: things that we're bad. Let's build on the good things, 1042 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 3: let's correct the bad things. And it's not just sports. 1043 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 3: That's anything I think right, And I think the people 1044 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 3: in this building and our fan base are all about 1045 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 3: that third thing. However they communicate that. So anyway, got 1046 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 3: home after the game on Sunday, I'm all bummed out, 1047 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 3: and my dog Pippin, who talk about all the time 1048 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 3: on this podcast, greeted me the same way as if 1049 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 3: we had one, if we had lost whatever, and she's 1050 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 3: so just happy and positive, and I'm like, you know what, 1051 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 3: We're gonna be okay in the long run. You know, 1052 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 3: I hope it's this season. I hope we get into 1053 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 3: playoffs and can make a run. Even if we don't, 1054 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 3: I have full confidence in the world this team will 1055 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 3: be back on the mountaintop next year because of the 1056 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 3: people that are here. So anyway, long winded answer, but 1057 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 3: I'm with you. We feel this like everyone listening does. 1058 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 3: And I think when you encounter these moments, it's about 1059 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 3: how do you respond to it, how do you process it? 1060 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 3: And you and I are going to choose to embrace 1061 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,439 Speaker 3: the good things and hope that we can find ways 1062 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 3: to correct the bad things and get back on top. 1063 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 3: That is my final thought for you. 1064 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 2: Well, that's great, my little tag that is Charles Windell 1065 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: wrote a small thing it's called attitudes, and it basically 1066 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 2: says ten percent of life is what happens to you, 1067 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 2: in ninety percent is how you react to it. And 1068 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 2: I think in our jobs, look, we're always looking to 1069 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 2: be positive and to be looking to a brighter future. 1070 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 2: And there's no organization in football i'd rather be with 1071 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,919 Speaker 2: right now, even with the record at six and seven, 1072 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 2: than the Kansas City Chiefs. They've got all the right 1073 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 2: people in place. They'll make great decisions if they rallied 1074 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 2: up this year, hallelujah. But if they don't. To Chiefs Kingdom, 1075 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 2: how we look at it, we all control our own 1076 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 2: attitude all day, every day. All right, that's going to 1077 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: do it for out West with Ari Wolf this week. 1078 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 2: Enjoy week fifteen everybody, and a big thanks. 1079 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: To you, Matt. 1080 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 3: All right, always great catching up with Ari. You could 1081 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 3: make it today. But you have loved the last part 1082 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 3: of that conversation because I actually talked about some things 1083 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 3: I heard you talking about on the radio the other day. 1084 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 3: That listen, these circumstances aren't great, like we didn't expect 1085 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 3: to be in this spot, but it is all about 1086 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 3: how you handle it and respond to it. And what 1087 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 3: I think is so cool about Chiefs Kingdom is that 1088 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 3: we absolutely love this team, you know, and it's not 1089 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 3: always going to be perfect, but it's about how do 1090 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 3: we respond to these situations and the way you and 1091 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 3: I are and so many of our fans are, and 1092 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 3: the way the people in this building are in terms 1093 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 3: of trying to kind of fix this thing. It's all about, hey, 1094 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 3: let's embrace the good stuff and build on that. Let's 1095 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 3: fix the bad stuff. There's no finger pointing going on, 1096 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 3: none of that. This team is stuck together through this 1097 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 3: and that's why I have confidence, you know, whether it's 1098 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 3: this year or looking at the future, we're going to 1099 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 3: be just fine moving forward. But it was a good conversation. 1100 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 1: I often explain to people, or try to explain to people, 1101 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 1: that what you and I do, and the people that 1102 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: work in our sixty to five TPT crew and work 1103 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 1: for the team, it is not our leisure. It's our profession, 1104 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: and for our fans and all of you, it's it's 1105 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: your leisure. It's your entertainments. And I get all that. 1106 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, it's just you got to understand. And 1107 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: what I said on different radio reports and the one 1108 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: that you heard. There's three responses to the chiefs being 1109 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: six and seven and being under the expectation obviously of 1110 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 1: what's happened here since since Coach Read really drove in. 1111 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, but it's either shadenfreude, which is the 1112 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: German term of man, I really love it when you 1113 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: have discomfany. A lot of people are enjoying that. I 1114 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,720 Speaker 1: just relish it. I hope you have you know, pins 1115 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: in your fingernails, and I'll just sit there and love it. 1116 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 1: That's one group. The second group is to wallow in it. 1117 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,479 Speaker 1: You just sit there and wallow and want to state 1118 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 1: in And actually it's human nature because we can get 1119 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: caught in self pity and we can wallow and it's like, 1120 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: oh this is I'll stay here because this feels like 1121 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: just kind of you know, I don't like it, but 1122 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: I like it kind of. It's really strange. Then the 1123 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: third category, which we're in because it's our profession, is 1124 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: how does it get better? What do we look at 1125 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: and analyze? And I talked about Coach Reads fourth down 1126 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: in one play. I said, just analyze of what his 1127 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 1: thought process would have been in going for it? What 1128 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: I've gone for it, probably not he said he would again, 1129 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: but he's also would maybe think about it. But the 1130 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: point is the fact that what goes into his thought 1131 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: process of why he did it, and the fact that 1132 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: we're number one in the league in fourth down conversions 1133 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: might have gone into his thinking. We've converted more than 1134 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: anybody in the league. And it's kind of not super 1135 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: far closer I should say a second, so you handle it, 1136 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: but it's and you have to have a different mindset. 1137 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: But that's the mindset this team we sense that they 1138 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: have and you have to have it in this Sunday's 1139 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: game against the Chargers. 1140 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think for me, this team and everyone 1141 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 3: in this building has just earned the benefit of the 1142 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 3: doubt because of the ridiculous success that we've enjoyed. 1143 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: There is some equity here, there's some sweat equity. 1144 00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 3: And listen, I we all expected this season to and 1145 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 3: than Santa Clara, and it still could for all we know, 1146 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 3: but we did not think we'd be six and seven, right, 1147 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 3: You and I have full confidence in this team that 1148 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: we would be running the table competing for the one 1149 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 3: seed hasn't been the case this year, and we've laid 1150 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 3: out why. It just hasn't been like we've lost by 1151 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 3: twenty points numerous times. We just haven't made the plays 1152 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 3: we normally make at the end of games, and those plays, 1153 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 3: unfortunately have added up over the course of the season. 1154 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 3: But moving forward, it's all about how you respond to it. 1155 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 3: And I know I've said that before and the results 1156 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 3: weren't always wins. Well, that doesn't mean you don't keep 1157 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 3: the same process of Okay, how do we respond to it? 1158 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 3: This isn't where we expected to be, but everything is 1159 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 3: still there. The Chiefs can make the playoffs this year. 1160 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 3: I certainly hope they do, and hopefully we're talking about 1161 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 3: this team in the playoffs weeks from now. But if 1162 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 3: you're looking toward the future as well, this team and 1163 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 3: the people here have earned the benefit of the doubt. 1164 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 3: Where the Chiefs have won the most regular season games, 1165 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 3: the most postseason games of any team over the last 1166 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 3: ten seasons, been to all these conference title games, been 1167 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl several times, won the Super Bowl. 1168 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 3: They know how to get it done. We didn't think 1169 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 3: this would happen, but it did. So how do you 1170 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 3: respond to it? 1171 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: Now? 1172 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 3: There's nobody on earth I'd rather have in charge of 1173 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 3: figuring this thing out than the people in this building. 1174 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of the things I said to the 1175 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: people asking the question about coach and the fourth down, 1176 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: is are you going to get a media credential for 1177 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame induction? You might be applying for one. 1178 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 1: So there is some equity there from a guy's fourth 1179 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL in victories and first in Chief's history 1180 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 1: in victories. So here we are barreling in with a 1181 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 1: six and seven record against the Chargers who have kind 1182 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: of hung in there at nine and four. But for 1183 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the battle cry, hold the Fort