Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ull that.
Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so
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Speaker 1: And then and tie me Tuesday, Inn Rubinstein, how are you,
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Speaker 2: I'm great. I was just thinking as we started, because
Speaker 2: this is sort of a leftovers slash look ahead show,
Speaker 2: that it's sort of the opposite of a letdown look
Speaker 2: ahead sandwich, because we're not let down in any way,
Speaker 2: but the leftover element. I was thinking about what foods
Speaker 2: are better left over. Maybe we can circle back to
Speaker 2: that business term at the end of the episode, but
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about, like chili brownies, those types
Speaker 2: of thing where like the flavor just intensifies overnight and
Speaker 2: so on that note, maybe the solid verbal flavoring tie
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Speaker 1: How about that? I think it's entirely possible. And you're right.
Speaker 1: This is that show where we go back through the
Speaker 1: leftover thoughts. We go through a few odds and ends
Speaker 1: that we did not have a chance to address. We
Speaker 1: do take a look forward. We're going to play a game.
Speaker 1: We got a suggestion from the Verballer hood. It's going
Speaker 1: to be a jam packed show here now as we've
Speaker 1: had about two days to let week three percolate. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Dan?
Speaker 1: That's what we're out here to try and decipher on
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Speaker 1: to be a voter. But we have a new poll.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different. Okay, Texas is now the
Speaker 1: new number one team that kind of echoes what we
Speaker 1: have seen In other polling across the college football ether,
Speaker 1: it's Texas one, Georgia two, Ohio State three, Alabama four.
Speaker 1: Tennessee has continued its upward trajectory. They are now the
Speaker 1: new number five team, ahead of Ole Miss and Miszoo.
Speaker 1: We've got six teams, by the way, from the SEC
Speaker 1: that are in this or ball or top twelve poll.
Speaker 1: And then to round things out, we've got Miami at eight, Oregon,
Speaker 1: your organ ducs at nine. We've got the Penn State
Speaker 1: and Nindee Lyons my alma mater at ten, followed by
Speaker 1: USC and Utah. I don't know if you've got any
Speaker 1: great reaction to that. I will add that the others
Speaker 1: receiving votes is quite interesting because we've got k State
Speaker 1: and Oplaha, which we're both in that category a week ago.
Speaker 1: Also Oklahoma is in there. Also, Nebraska is starting to
Speaker 1: get some love and in others receiving votes. Top twelve
Speaker 1: for Nebraska feels a little rich. At this point, we
Speaker 1: will figure out more. We're going to talk about the
Speaker 1: Illinois game that's going to be played on Friday night.
Speaker 1: It's a rank battle between Nebraska and Illinois. We can
Speaker 1: get to that later on, but nice to see them
Speaker 1: getting a little bit of love here. Do you have
Speaker 1: any reaction to this.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see more before feeling incredible about Utah
Speaker 2: in this moment. And I know it's a cam rising
Speaker 2: injury situation, So yeah, I think Utah should be floating
Speaker 2: in there. Kansas State's win was very nice against Arizona,
Speaker 2: so I appreciate them in there. Oklahoma State, I don't
Speaker 2: know they've they've laid some lumber tie, but I think
Speaker 2: it's it's largely fine. I would probably have USC ahead
Speaker 2: of Penn State in this moment. If this is a
Speaker 2: week to week we have, Yeah, I would put USC
Speaker 2: ahead of Penn State. I might even put USC ahead
Speaker 2: of Oregon with Oregon's early struggles. Struggles, but I understand that,
Speaker 2: you know, the Oregon looked a lot stronger. But I
Speaker 2: don't know. With what USC did against LSU in Week
Speaker 2: one and then shut out Utah State, I know there
Speaker 2: are lingering concerns about their defense. We'll learn a lot more.
Speaker 2: It's Michigan week correct.
Speaker 1: Correct favorite on the road, Favorite on the road.
Speaker 2: Five and a half six points, USC favored coming off
Speaker 2: of bye Yeah, I would I would give consideration there
Speaker 2: and obviously Texas making the leap over Georgia. I think
Speaker 2: I would still take Georgia if we were playing on
Speaker 2: a neutral site this coming week after what Georgia did
Speaker 2: against Clemson still in Week one. But I get it.
Speaker 2: I get Texas, Texas ascent, especially with arch Manning coming
Speaker 2: in and losing nothing against a struggling UTSA.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my reaction to this. Yeah, Frankly, my
Speaker 1: reaction in looking at this and seeing how heavy it
Speaker 1: is with SEC and Big ten teams, for sure, it's
Speaker 1: are we going to get to a point where we're
Speaker 1: talking about the playoff where both the Big twelve and
Speaker 1: the ACC only get one team apiece and it's their
Speaker 1: conference champion, right, which I don't think anybody wants. I
Speaker 1: don't want that. The way that this early season polling
Speaker 1: is shaking out, it is screaming that that's a possibility.
Speaker 1: Way too early to make any projections on that front.
Speaker 1: But if that is the case, and we get one
Speaker 1: G five team in one Big twelve team and one
Speaker 1: ACC team, there's going to be a very very interesting
Speaker 1: discussion later on in the year about which Big ten
Speaker 1: and which SEC teams make it in this great This
Speaker 1: is very very top heavy. Now with respect to the
Speaker 1: top teams in each of those.
Speaker 2: Conferences, I'm circling October twenty fourth in terms of teams
Speaker 2: not in this top twelve yet. Do you know what
Speaker 2: October twenty fourth gives us tie?
Speaker 1: Please tell me?
Speaker 2: Uh Pitt hosting Syracuse? I don't know, man, Yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 2: I'm ready for the implied a sense of one of
Speaker 2: those teams into our Verballer Top twelve. Maybe follow that
Speaker 2: that week is going to decide big things to me.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Syracuse game that's being
Speaker 1: played late in the week.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: A little bit later on in this episode is an
Speaker 1: ACC classic. An ACC classic, Yes, between Stanford and Syracuse.
Speaker 1: We're going to preview those weekday games here towards the
Speaker 1: back half of this episode. So that's your Uverballer Top
Speaker 1: twelve pole again. You can sign up to vote atverballers
Speaker 1: dot com. Let's get to those leftovers. It's to a
Speaker 1: little bit of a flashback leftover thoughts from week three, Dan,
Speaker 1: what are some games? What are some takes that you
Speaker 1: conjured up as you were thinking back over the last
Speaker 1: forty eight hours or so to week three? What is
Speaker 1: popping up in your head.
Speaker 2: I just took out the legal pad. I'm showing it
Speaker 2: to the camera that people watching on YouTube can see
Speaker 2: or our live stream on Fox Sports too. Thank you, Ty,
Speaker 2: don't tell them.
Speaker 1: Don't tell them. Okay, we've hacked the matrix and we've
Speaker 1: we've broadcasted our pirates signal up there without it.
Speaker 2: How long would it take a Fox Sports executive to
Speaker 2: learn that we have been like paying somebody behind the
Speaker 2: scenes that controls the Fox Sports two feet I guess
Speaker 2: it would be like people like upset that they're bull
Speaker 2: riding or F four racing something like that wasn't being shown,
Speaker 2: so we'd be found out.
Speaker 1: But we could go. We could do that for three
Speaker 1: weeks before being found out.
Speaker 2: If we stream this at three am.
Speaker 1: Three weeks, I give it three weeks.
Speaker 2: Fox Sports two three am one, it would be three weeks.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: How do you even get Fox Sports too? I don't
Speaker 1: even know how to watch it.
Speaker 2: I have no clue. I think it's it's deep on
Speaker 2: cable packages something. If you have a sports package. How
Speaker 2: much could it cost us to pay Fox to air
Speaker 2: this show, not even have them pay us, like to
Speaker 2: buy airtime on Fox Sports two at three am, seventy
Speaker 2: five dollars a week.
Speaker 1: Does anyone know anyone at Fox Sports two we could
Speaker 1: technically launder a title for ourselves like TV stars Ty Hilde, Brandon,
Speaker 1: Dan Rubenstein, Fox Sports two, three am every Friday.
Speaker 2: Okay, on my legal pathge, what do you guys in
Speaker 2: my note?
Speaker 1: What do you go?
Speaker 2: Okay? Is it time to Readjust Arizona thoughts? After last
Speaker 2: week in the wide Open Big twelve, they have a
Speaker 2: buye before Utah and traveling to a resurgent byu Jake
Speaker 2: Rhetz laugh getting it done for the Cougars. South Alabama
Speaker 2: dropped eighty seven points this week.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about them too, because they're going
Speaker 1: to preview that Thursday game against that state. But I
Speaker 1: believe this hits one of your fantasy things, doesn't.
Speaker 2: It absolutely done? Eighty burger? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: You talked about the September eighty burger. Who is going
Speaker 1: to put up the September eighty burger? I believe as
Speaker 1: a context for that and South Alabama they almost got
Speaker 1: the ninety. They scored eighty seven points.
Speaker 2: And that was their first win. I believe, Yes, they
Speaker 2: were gone in two now UNLV is currently ranked. They
Speaker 2: are for the first time I believe ever in either
Speaker 2: poll UNLV football. They have a buye before Fresno and
Speaker 2: the Juggernaut that is the Syracuse Orange.
Speaker 1: The Juggernaut. One thing that I found interesting kind of
Speaker 1: on that point, if I could expand it a little bit.
Speaker 1: ESPN made some headlines because the updated their FPI, which
Speaker 1: I believe they update every week. Per the FPI, these
Speaker 1: are the teams that are most likely to make the
Speaker 1: playoff from the G five, all right, so they update.
Speaker 1: They have a little column that says playoff percentage. Yes,
Speaker 1: the top five are Boise State one, Memphis two, UNLV three.
Speaker 1: Just pretty high for UNLV given some preseason expectations.
Speaker 2: Agree, I wasn't as high as I should have been, apparently.
Speaker 1: And then NIU and Toledo. I did the MAC preview
Speaker 1: and I was high on both those teams within the
Speaker 1: context of the MAC. In the context of the playoff,
Speaker 1: the MAC has acquitted itself pretty well playing out of
Speaker 1: conference against some of these power opponents. Obviously, NIU is
Speaker 1: the one that people.
Speaker 2: They have to signature G five win thus far.
Speaker 1: And it probably will be the remainder of the season.
Speaker 1: But Toledo beat Mississippi State. I do want to talk
Speaker 1: abou Misissippi State a little bit. We'll get there. Beyond that, though,
Speaker 1: teams like USF and Tulane and Fresno and Coastal, even Army.
Speaker 2: USF has that opportunity this week, right, they have Miami.
Speaker 1: They have Miami this week. Yeah, even Army. These are
Speaker 1: all teams that are ahead of two that we were
Speaker 1: pretty high on that we have not mentioned yet. Liberty
Speaker 1: an app State. Probably app State is lower. They're at
Speaker 1: currently one percent.
Speaker 2: Nice comeback Land against ECU, fell down sixty nothing I want.
Speaker 1: To say to start they won twenty one nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're probably lower because they lost by forty six to Clemson.
Speaker 1: That's a bad loss. It wouldn't be a bad loss
Speaker 1: if it weren't by forty six to Clemson, but losing
Speaker 1: by forty six to a power conference team is definitely
Speaker 1: going to leave a dent. And Liberty because Liberty doesn't
Speaker 1: play anyone. Liberty is right now at thirty percent three
Speaker 1: point one percent. Will they play app State? Yes they do,
Speaker 1: And that was kind of where I was going with this.
Speaker 1: That game is in week five, Week four this weekend,
Speaker 1: so not this weekend, but the weekend after and week
Speaker 1: five it's Liberty and app State in what I think
Speaker 1: amounts to a de facto playing game, not to win anything,
Speaker 1: just to remain in this conversation. Yeah, because whoever loses
Speaker 1: this game, I think is out. That's how I would
Speaker 1: interpret these percentages for whatever they're worth. So, if the
Speaker 1: G five is your thing, and that's something that you're
Speaker 1: curious about now in this playoff era, obviously they're all
Speaker 1: competing to try and get into this thing. That game
Speaker 1: in week five between app State and Liberty is definitely
Speaker 1: taking on the form of a game that's going to
Speaker 1: be very, very significant, per that conversation, So just keep
Speaker 1: that in the backs of your minds.
Speaker 2: Two things Boise plays UNLV I think on a Friday night,
Speaker 2: the twenty fifth, So that makes that Pitt Syracuse game.
Speaker 2: By the way, that's a Thursday night. Or we get
Speaker 2: some spicy acc action that night, so that'll be a
Speaker 2: fun weekend either way. Okay, next thing, Ole Miss immediately
Speaker 2: stomped Wake Forest. Did you see that? Wake Forest then
Speaker 2: immediately canceled next year's return game breaking.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna yell. I need to conserve my voice
Speaker 1: here if I'm going to make it through this season.
Speaker 1: But y's okay, Yeah, I saw I had somebody right
Speaker 1: to me and say you need to play breaking news
Speaker 1: for that one. So this one's for you, old friend.
Speaker 2: I respect that. I respect that immensely. Leave no doubt
Speaker 2: as to where you stand about this matchup. Here's the
Speaker 2: thing with ole Miss thus far, because we haven't had
Speaker 2: a lot of reason to talk about ole Miss. They've
Speaker 2: taken care of business pretty emphatically. They didn't allow a
Speaker 2: touchdown to Wake Forest. So if going into the season
Speaker 2: we said, yeah, I mean, look, they had Walter Nolan.
Speaker 2: He's the big headline name along the defensive line that
Speaker 2: they've added. But it's going to be the defense that
Speaker 2: is going to help to define what ole Miss's ceiling
Speaker 2: is this year, especially after what they weren't able to
Speaker 2: do on defense in the SEC against in their two losses.
Speaker 2: That that becomes more interesting because their defense is good
Speaker 2: enough in this moment. I don't I think they have
Speaker 2: written down here Georgia Southern before Kentucky at South Carolina
Speaker 2: at LSU. So we really aren't going to know anything
Speaker 2: for at least a couple of weeks about what ole
Speaker 2: Miss truly can be. But not allowing a touchdown in
Speaker 2: four quarters to wake Forest not nothing because that game
Speaker 2: was almost immediately in garbage time.
Speaker 1: It's not nothing, and again probably too early to start
Speaker 1: unpacking the stat profiles for any of these teams. You
Speaker 1: have to take them all with a grain of salt,
Speaker 1: although I will reference it in some of my leftover thoughts.
Speaker 1: Number one rushing defense, Number one success rate allowed right,
Speaker 1: not quite as good against the past. These are opponent adjusted.
Speaker 1: These are those numbers that remove garbage time stats, things
Speaker 1: of that nature. Defense is paced ahead right now of
Speaker 1: where they were a year ago, and I think a
Speaker 1: pretty significant way. So just something to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on with Old Miss, because as you said, they did
Speaker 1: do a lot of work in the transfer portal to
Speaker 1: try and beef up that side of things.
Speaker 2: I have this under maybe nothing, maybe something. Ollie Gordon
Speaker 2: and the Oklahoma State rushing attack has been very ordinary
Speaker 2: thus far against not great defenses. Interesting we hold him
Speaker 2: to a higher standard. I don't know if he is
Speaker 2: nicked up. I don't know if the offensive line is
Speaker 2: beat up. Whatever it is, maybe nothing, maybe something.
Speaker 1: That's interesting, especially when taken in concert with what I
Speaker 1: talked about in the preseason, which was Oli Gordon's stats
Speaker 1: were through the roof obviously, Yeah, but the line stats
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma State a year ago were not. And the
Speaker 1: implication there is that what Ali Gordon did was by
Speaker 1: virtue of his own talent and not with the line
Speaker 1: giving them all that much support last season. Has something changed,
Speaker 1: as he said, not necessarily against great rushing defenses. We'll
Speaker 1: see as they get it more into the meat of
Speaker 1: their schedule. We're going to talk about a banger of
Speaker 1: a game this weekend. I don't think should give us
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a tell there, but definitely
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on for sure.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State. Yeah, Oklahoma State has the passing attack to
Speaker 2: jump out to Leeds, but to win a four quarter game,
Speaker 2: hopefully you can do more than just throw the ball.
Speaker 2: You can you have difference that you can play at
Speaker 2: ye and I think they certainly need that. The next
Speaker 2: thing is I watched every snap of Davis Warren in
Speaker 2: the Michigan offense against Arkansas State. I don't know if
Speaker 2: this season is done for in terms of Michigan, but
Speaker 2: man right side of the offensive line, the center was
Speaker 2: blown off the ball a bunch.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The positive thing is I really like Kalel Mullings. I
Speaker 2: mentioned that before. I like them even more after watching
Speaker 2: every snap. Davis Warren I don't actually hate that much,
Speaker 2: but he just has those decisions where like we're not
Speaker 2: talking about tipped balls, we're not talking about a receiver
Speaker 2: running the wrong way. He just threw it to Arkansas
Speaker 2: State over and over three. I think three picks in
Speaker 2: that game. Three picks in that game, yeah, Cup, I
Speaker 2: think it was a couple in the first half and
Speaker 2: then one in the second and Alex Orgy came in
Speaker 2: missed a wide open man deep. I wonder, and maybe
Speaker 2: you can't really do it on the fly. If you're
Speaker 2: talking about an offensive line that is a mixed bag
Speaker 2: at best. I think Michigan playing hardball ball is kind
Speaker 2: of a huge mistake with the personnel on this team,
Speaker 2: and the receivers might be pretty good. It's just I
Speaker 2: think it's the wrong system, Like how would we know
Speaker 2: with these receivers. I think they should be I don't
Speaker 2: know if cheesing is the right word, but leaning into
Speaker 2: maybe it takes you know, you got to do it
Speaker 2: in the bye week, like play a little bit more
Speaker 2: creative pickleball, a little bit more rpo pickleball, still running
Speaker 2: slants stuff, But like, I don't know, I think Mulling's
Speaker 2: and Donovan Edwards rightfully, so we're gonna get a lot
Speaker 2: of attention from defenses. I just I would take this game,
Speaker 2: this team, in this offense away from the lap of
Speaker 2: the offensive line. I mean when they're running, well, they're
Speaker 2: using a lot of like fullback and multiple tight ends
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I don't know. I would say, like,
Speaker 2: how much money could Dan Mullen truly need to come
Speaker 2: in and be a consultant to turn this Michigan offense. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he'd do it for free. He might just like on
Speaker 2: a zoom call once a week with Dan Mullen or
Speaker 2: something whoever's available. So that was my thought after watching that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you had any additional Michigan Arkansas
Speaker 2: State thoughts of USC this weekend.
Speaker 1: I have a Michigan State thought please for what that's worth.
Speaker 1: We mentioned Michigan State as a surprise three to zero
Speaker 1: team on the recap show, and the opponents have been FAU.
Speaker 1: They were on the road at Maryland. They won that
Speaker 1: game by three. Prairie View this past weekend they shut
Speaker 1: out forty to nothing. Not the toughest sleep. Okay, this
Speaker 1: week is the week where they start to get into
Speaker 1: more of the meat of that schedule. They've got Boston
Speaker 1: College in their next nine games, their favored to lose
Speaker 1: eight of them. This is where I think we start
Speaker 1: seeing what is what is going on here. One thing
Speaker 1: I noticed, though, is on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: which was a problem last season. They were given up
Speaker 1: close to twenty nine points a game, twenty eight points
Speaker 1: a game somewhere in that neighborhood. Thus far, we're three
Speaker 1: weeks in. The competition hasn't been great. That number is
Speaker 1: all the way down to eleven point three. So you
Speaker 1: might look at that and say, ah, well, what's scoring defense.
Speaker 1: That's a number that can get skewed. Doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1: And I'd say I agree with that completely. That's why
Speaker 1: we don't use it generally. But then you look at
Speaker 1: the per play numbers, then you look at the opponent
Speaker 1: adjusted numbers. You chop out the garbage time stuff. Again,
Speaker 1: I will reiterate what I've been saying all season long.
Speaker 1: You got to give these numbers a little bit of
Speaker 1: a chance to cook before you can fully trust them,
Speaker 1: but it is still meaningful to look at them and
Speaker 1: see where any team is ranking relative to where they
Speaker 1: were a year ago. They are much much better defensively
Speaker 1: with their defensive success rates, their efficiency is much higher,
Speaker 1: much better against the pass. There's been a really big jump,
Speaker 1: specifically in havoc rate, specifically in converting pressures into sacks.
Speaker 1: So we talked about how this was a veteran unit
Speaker 1: coming in. They just need a better organization, They needed
Speaker 1: better numbers. Frankly, I believe we're seeing some indication that
Speaker 1: things are going in a good direction. These numbers are
Speaker 1: probably going to regress as they get into the heart
Speaker 1: of their schedules.
Speaker 2: Well no, I mean they have FAU four more times
Speaker 2: this season.
Speaker 1: This is probably gonna be the high water mark for
Speaker 1: the defense. I don't want to be misquoted here, but
Speaker 1: I just I think it is a positive early indicator
Speaker 1: that Jonathan Smith has them better organized that Joe Rossi,
Speaker 1: their new DCU they brought over from Minnesota, that they
Speaker 1: are finding a way to tap into that veteran leadership
Speaker 1: and just get a lot more out of them. It
Speaker 1: feels like maybe the plan is working to some degree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, Joe Rossi speaks Big ten. You know
Speaker 2: he does.
Speaker 1: He does. So that's one thing that I that I
Speaker 1: took away from last week that it wouldn't didn't really
Speaker 1: have much of a chance to unpack. The other thing
Speaker 1: is you or UCF. Excuse me, Okay, we can maybe
Speaker 1: talk about USF on the Week four recap. I won't
Speaker 1: go there yet, but UCF is three and zero. They
Speaker 1: edged out TCU on the road, really good game. That
Speaker 1: was a good game. Per ESPN's updated FPI, UCF has
Speaker 1: now the best odds of the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: You know, I came into the season pretty high on
Speaker 2: the nights ted rufy both standing. We both did made
Speaker 2: nice adjustments in the second half. I don't know how
Speaker 2: many points they allowed in the second half against TCU.
Speaker 2: They fell down pretty big, but came back very nicely.
Speaker 2: Thirty percent is.
Speaker 1: The likelihood that ESPN gives UCF of winning the Big Twelve,
Speaker 1: and that puts them ahead of k State, which is
Speaker 1: at twenty five percent, Oklahoma State, about fourteen percent in Utah,
Speaker 1: which is currently at ten So meaningful right now, meaningful
Speaker 1: Per one set of numbers that I found, they're projected
Speaker 1: to lose to Iowa State in Utah and finished ten
Speaker 1: and two. But here's the thing about that of their
Speaker 1: remaining nine games, seven of them project as one score contests,
Speaker 1: So it's early sp plus numbers I check. Those seem
Speaker 1: significantly better on both offense and defense for the Knights
Speaker 1: as compared to last season. This is schedule looks workable.
Speaker 1: We've been saying it for a while. Now it's workable.
Speaker 1: They've got Florida in a couple of weeks. They do
Speaker 1: probably an open question as to whether that's a Billy
Speaker 1: Napier Florida at this point given the way things have gone.
Speaker 1: Just keep your eye on UCF because those numbers are
Speaker 1: high and they are dynamic and relative to what's going
Speaker 1: on elsewhere in the conference.
Speaker 2: Here are the quarterbacks, by the way, that UCF has
Speaker 2: remaining for its defense to contend with Shador Sanders, some
Speaker 2: combination of Graham Mertz and DJ Lagway, your guy, Brendan
Speaker 2: sorosby your guy the bore the best or yeah, the
Speaker 2: best of all Rocos. Is that what you're calling?
Speaker 1: That's correct?
Speaker 2: Rocobacks a resurgent once again. Jake Rhetz, laugh byu or
Speaker 2: Boy Noah Fafida, Sam Levitt, what had a nice day
Speaker 2: with Texas State, whatever, Garrett Green, hopefully Cam Rising.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2: That's a good called ross quarterbacks that this defense has
Speaker 2: to contend with.
Speaker 1: That's a good crop. So and this is I think
Speaker 1: only going to further the point of you can see
Speaker 1: what you want about projections. Yeah, but whether or not
Speaker 1: UCF wins those games or loses those games, what the
Speaker 1: numbers are saying is that they're going to be tight
Speaker 1: with all of their opponents Licen Snock from here on out,
Speaker 1: and that makes them a really good TV show for
Speaker 1: those agree.
Speaker 2: Well, and especially now that we have the knowledge that
Speaker 2: they'll they'll come back from twenty one point deficit or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely will. Okay, next I have well this will get
Speaker 2: into in a moment, but like Illinois and Nebraska are
Speaker 2: both ranked and playing Friday night Friday Night. Illinois was
Speaker 2: a little bit too sloppy in that first half to
Speaker 2: make me feel incredible about Illinois COMMA ranked team. But
Speaker 2: the duo of like that they're winning in a way
Speaker 2: that is strange for a Brettyloma team to me. I mean,
Speaker 2: I threw the ball a lot when Bilamo was at Arkansas,
Speaker 2: but offensive line has not been good this year. The
Speaker 2: running game has not been good this year. Luke Altmeyer
Speaker 2: has been above average. The duel of Pat Bryant and
Speaker 2: Zakari Franklin has been very good. I just know how
Speaker 2: long they're going to be ranked without an offensive line,
Speaker 2: But good story thus far held Kansas under twenty. I
Speaker 2: believe three picks. NC State has some issues. Man, I'm
Speaker 2: worried about them. I kind of don't understand it either. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's one thing if you're just sort of average, it's
Speaker 2: another if it feels like week in and week out
Speaker 2: you're on the fringes of losing to bad teams. Teams
Speaker 2: you should not be worse Western Carolina and this one
Speaker 2: was Louisiana Tach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I'm not that down on La Tech. I
Speaker 1: kind of like the general like vibe of the program.
Speaker 1: I think that maybe headed in a good direction, but
Speaker 1: they've got some work to do there. If NC State's
Speaker 1: nearly half as good as we expected, that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: something we're even talking about in this show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a standard issue. NC State should have at least
Speaker 2: hung around for a chunk of the Tennessee game or
Speaker 2: scored a chunk during the ten, like there should have
Speaker 2: been something to indicate NC State is competitive. There have
Speaker 2: been offensive line issues, especially in the run game. Grayce
Speaker 2: McCall left the game against Louisiana Tech injured. I think
Speaker 2: it was like a little bit before halftime. I want
Speaker 2: to say he even healthy, I don't. It doesn't seem
Speaker 2: immediately like a great fit for this offense, Like he's
Speaker 2: not great throwing a deeper ball, and so I don't
Speaker 2: know where that leaves us with the Wolfpack. CJ. Bailey
Speaker 2: was who came in true freshman, was Jeremiah Smith's quarterback
Speaker 2: in high school. Big kid confirmed that he is six
Speaker 2: to six time. He's not a five to ten that
Speaker 2: I'm claiming a six to six. He is a confirmed
Speaker 2: he's on the thinner side. He's like six six buck eighty,
Speaker 2: but looks like he could have a higher ceiling. And
Speaker 2: you don't want to put too much on a true freshman,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. They've struggled running the ball, and
Speaker 2: that potentially opens up if they're able because they have
Speaker 2: good receivers that maybe they just need that shot in
Speaker 2: the arm of somebody new under center and sort of
Speaker 2: take the lumps that come with it. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: been a struggle this year in ways that I don't
Speaker 2: I don't think I saw coming.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think even people who cover NC States
Speaker 1: saw it coming. I mean reading Corey Smith we had
Speaker 1: on the show this summer, and there's definitely a fair
Speaker 1: amount of confusion as to how it got here. And
Speaker 1: to your point on Grace and McCall, actually I'm glad
Speaker 1: you brought that up. I little stocked him alone situation here,
Speaker 1: because I've got a kind of a spin off of
Speaker 1: that I'll want to take it, Carl. But it's it's
Speaker 1: striking to me that there isn't a whole lot of
Speaker 1: positive talk out there about Grace and McCall thus far.
Speaker 2: Oh it's been, and hopefully it's explained away by something else,
Speaker 2: because I think he's a talented guy, but it has
Speaker 2: not been pretty throwing the ball, you know, longer than
Speaker 2: like eight yards? I have Arkansas's about to be such
Speaker 2: a good TV show. Whatever happens, We'll hold that thought.
Speaker 2: Let's hold that thought. Let's hold that thought. I have
Speaker 2: one more thing here.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many leftover thoughts you have. I
Speaker 1: have got one continue. I have one big one left
Speaker 1: that I wanted to lead to something of a discussion
Speaker 1: between you and I because we brought this up just
Speaker 1: privately when we were chatting through things. I think on Saturday,
Speaker 1: as we were getting ready for the recap show, I
Speaker 1: went through I looked at twenty four to sevens list
Speaker 1: of the top transfer quarterbacks from this previous portal cycle.
Speaker 1: These lists don't mean anything. They don't They're like rankings
Speaker 1: in week three. Okay, it's going to change a million
Speaker 1: times over, but it was something to go by. This
Speaker 1: was the ranking of the top transfer quarterbacks. I looked
Speaker 1: at it, and then I filtered it out based on
Speaker 1: guys who are actually starting for their teams. I think
Speaker 1: it's a really interesting discussion to try and figure out
Speaker 1: truly who is the best transfer quarterback through three weeks
Speaker 1: of the season. Because right now, if you take the
Speaker 1: top sixteen quarterbacks that are actually starting for their respective schools,
Speaker 1: here's what it looks like if you filter that list down.
Speaker 1: Aiden Chiles Okay, hit or miss. So far, cam Ward's
Speaker 1: been good, cam Woard's been excellent, cam Wore has been great.
Speaker 1: He's probably the answer A brock Van a Griff, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Malik Murphy, we saw Malik Murphy throw against Northwestern that
Speaker 1: I thought left a little bit to be desired.
Speaker 2: Upside, but yeah, not consistent yet.
Speaker 1: Will Howard maybe the product of his environment, but serviceable right, has.
Speaker 2: Been more than serviceable right if he is excellent at
Speaker 2: Ohio State. The early returns indicated.
Speaker 1: I was very high on Will Howard coming into the season.
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard's a big old right now.
Speaker 2: I'm going to extend grace just because of injury stuff,
Speaker 2: but continue injury stuff.
Speaker 1: Good at running the football, definitely has his legs back
Speaker 1: under him. Yeah, but throwing the ball that's been kind
Speaker 1: of a nightmare.
Speaker 2: Tricky.
Speaker 1: The Kwan Finn at Baylor, yeah, beat up, didn't play
Speaker 1: last week now, Dylan Gabriel, who was shaky I think
Speaker 1: before this past week. Yeah, dju not even going to
Speaker 1: have that discussion. Your guy Kyle McCord, Oh my god, monster,
Speaker 1: who also has a claim as the answer to this question.
Speaker 1: Will Rogers has been fine for Washington TVD is hurt,
Speaker 1: probably done for the year. Brendan Soorsby at Cincinnati I
Speaker 1: think has been something of a revelation at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: He's been good. Max Brozmer will wait and see at Minnesota. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Grayson McCall had just talked about Grace McCall and then
Speaker 1: Curtis Rourke, who's been incredible, excellent for Indiana. But that's
Speaker 1: your top sixteen. Yeah, and so it's striking to me
Speaker 1: that of those guys, I can bold fase seven of
Speaker 1: them and say, yeah, these guys have been pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no.
Speaker 1: More than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's very little to go on, right, Like what's
Speaker 2: more impressive Dylan Gabriel against Oregon State or cam Ward
Speaker 2: against Florida. And I guess that's much more of a
Speaker 2: knock on where Florida is right now as an opponent
Speaker 2: that their Oregon State ish with how Oregon State has
Speaker 2: been depleted. Will Howard hasn't played anybody that's the case
Speaker 2: against him. Tyler Shuck hasn't played anybody that's the case
Speaker 2: against him. You didn't even bring up Shuck.
Speaker 1: But I didn't even bring up Shuck in that, And
Speaker 1: that's sort of the point, right. This is just a
Speaker 1: larger conversation about do lists mean anything? Do rankings mean anything?
Speaker 1: Because guys that are not part of that top list.
Speaker 1: Jordan McLeod at Texas State has been really good. kJ
Speaker 1: Jefferson at UCF you just talked.
Speaker 2: About you see, I think he's in that conversation for sure.
Speaker 1: He should be our guy. Matt Sluka at UNLV has
Speaker 1: been very very good, if not excellent, at running the football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Diego Pavia something of a revelation at big Win lost
Speaker 1: to Georgia State this passage Georgia Eli Holstein at Pitt Hello,
Speaker 1: he's easily in the top five of this. I agree,
Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck not in that top grouping. Taylor Green not
Speaker 1: in that top grouping. These are struggle against u AB,
Speaker 1: struggled some against you AB, they won, And I think
Speaker 1: he's He's raw still but obviously very talented. My bigger
Speaker 1: point here is transfer quarterbacks are a coin flip as
Speaker 1: to whether or not they're going to work. Transfer quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are really difficult to rank. You can rank them in theory,
Speaker 1: but when you put them in their system, you either
Speaker 1: have a Grayson McCall which maybe it doesn't work, or
Speaker 1: you have a Curtis for work where it's working famously. Right,
Speaker 1: take these lists with a grain assault, use them as
Speaker 1: a reference, but do not treat them as gospel, because
Speaker 1: for sure, there are a lot of guys that are
Speaker 1: lower on this list. Who are I think outpacing some
Speaker 1: of the names, some of the bigger names that were
Speaker 1: much higher at the start of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, next two or three weeks, A lot of these
Speaker 2: teams have big games. I don't think Oregon does, Organ's
Speaker 2: on by, but cam Ward I believe has Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2: He has USF this week, and then Virginia Tech. I believe.
Speaker 2: I don't have their schedule in front of me. You know,
Speaker 2: you see F schedule. We just went over pitt schedule.
Speaker 2: I assume is going to continue to have challenges on
Speaker 2: it because the a SEC seems wide open. Again, I
Speaker 2: don't have it in front of me. Yeah, this would
Speaker 2: be great. And the interesting thing about this conversation too,
Speaker 2: is with somebody like Eli Holstein or and I'm not
Speaker 2: being goofy here with Kyle McCord, is they come in
Speaker 2: with either a new coordinator or a whole new head
Speaker 2: coach or whatever, and their presence has been the catalyst
Speaker 2: and you know, the the engine for change. Right. We
Speaker 2: haven't seen a pit offense in a couple of years.
Speaker 2: And then Eli Holstein and cade Bell I want to say,
Speaker 2: come in and Eli Holstein is like the embodiment of
Speaker 2: the new Pit offense, and Kyle McCord is the embodiment
Speaker 2: of a much more productive Syracuse offense thus far, So
Speaker 2: you know that might be a little bit more meaningful.
Speaker 2: Whereas like Dylan Gabriel, if Dylan Gabriel is vaguely bo Nicks,
Speaker 2: that's a success story, but it's nothing new for Oregon.
Speaker 2: So we'll see, can't wait.
Speaker 1: It is a broader point that we have made the
Speaker 1: last couple of years now, especially as a transfer portal
Speaker 1: has become more of a presence in college football, that
Speaker 1: you cannot assume a big quarterback name is going to
Speaker 1: equal big quarterback output. A lot of these guys I listed,
Speaker 1: even if they're not necessarily in the top grouping of
Speaker 1: what we have seen so far among transfers. Haven't all
Speaker 1: been disasters. That's not the implication, right, They've been fine
Speaker 1: in many cases. But again, you cannot assume as fact
Speaker 1: that somebody stepping into a new position, whether it's because
Speaker 1: of the system around him or the talent around him,
Speaker 1: you just cannot assume that they're going to hit right away.
Speaker 1: It looks like a coin flip. That's what we've been
Speaker 1: saying That's what this amounts to here through three weeks
Speaker 1: of the year, right, that's where I'm at.
Speaker 2: Okay, next, I have well I mentioned the Arkansas thing.
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech a nice comfortable win against ODU. They have
Speaker 2: Rutgers and at Miami, so there's a revenge factor against
Speaker 2: Rutgers from last year. By the way, another quarterback we
Speaker 2: haven't mentioned is athen caliac Manis Rutgers been solid.
Speaker 1: Been Okay.
Speaker 2: Vandy couldn't hold on against Georgia State. They had to
Speaker 2: come back. They scored late. Georgia State came back with
Speaker 2: a seventy five yard drive with a touchdown fifteen seconds
Speaker 2: left in the game. Andy needed that to get to
Speaker 2: a ball. Hank Brown at Auburn, Yeah, was good. It
Speaker 2: was New Mexico. Auburn doesn't always succeed against teams from
Speaker 2: New Mexico. Hank Brown, welcome to college football. Sawyer Robertson
Speaker 2: was good right for Baylor against Air Force Bryce in
Speaker 2: Washington looks like he could be quite fun for Baylor.
Speaker 2: I mentioned Retz laugh twice now it was Wyoming, but
Speaker 2: he looked very good. My final item, Cal ran the
Speaker 2: hell out of the ball against San Diego State doesn't
Speaker 2: have a great defense this year. No, Jada not beat up.
Speaker 2: Jvan Thomas, Cadarius Callaway, and Dude performances for Cal.
Speaker 1: And Cal's got Florida State this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the late game. That game was happening
Speaker 2: as we were recording. Cal has Florida State. They make
Speaker 2: up one of the eight teams that look very difficult
Speaker 2: all of the sudden for Florida State.
Speaker 1: One of the things that we did this offseason where
Speaker 1: we were updating our Patreon tiers out of for Bowlers
Speaker 1: dot Com, we wanted to give that community an opportunity
Speaker 1: to have more input into what we do on this
Speaker 1: episode as it to look back, as it's one of
Speaker 1: these things each week where we have a chance to
Speaker 1: take a step back and look around college football to
Speaker 1: see what's going on. So we decided we're going to
Speaker 1: take a suggested topic each week and turn it into
Speaker 1: a game. Would you like to play a game of
Speaker 1: over under? Dan?
Speaker 2: I would love to.
Speaker 1: Let's play over or under. That's our girl, Nancy back
Speaker 1: from her vacation. Great introing this segment. This one comes
Speaker 1: to us from verbal or Kyle. Kyle says the SEC
Speaker 1: needs a deeper dive because it seems like there have
Speaker 1: been a lot of underwhelming showings this year. Yeah, our
Speaker 1: game of over under is not what you think. Our
Speaker 1: game is SEC overwhelmed or SEC underwhelmed. I've got seven
Speaker 1: teams here. Oh, I want to talk through these quickly.
Speaker 1: We do not need to spend ten minutes per team.
Speaker 1: But these are teams that have been obviously on the radar,
Speaker 1: they're in the SEC, and in some cases we haven't
Speaker 1: talked a whole lot about them. So it's very simple, Dan,
Speaker 1: I will throw out a team name. You will tell
Speaker 1: me overwhelmed, underwhelmed based on what you've seen so far. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, easy one to start, Tennessee volunteers. Have you
Speaker 1: been overwhelmed or have you been underwhelmed by?
Speaker 2: Wow? See me personally overwhelmed. Absolutely. I think that's easy,
Speaker 2: very little to complain about.
Speaker 1: If anything. I think we start with an easy one.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma this week.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma is my next team on the list. Okay, but
Speaker 1: they play this week, Yes, they play this week. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've been underwhelmed by Oklahoma so far. Same, I've been underwhelmed,
Speaker 1: And I think the text messages that we received from
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma Overballerhood sort of confirmed that, and I read
Speaker 1: one of those off on one of our episodes last week.
Speaker 1: It's striking to me that you get different answers from
Speaker 1: Oklahoma fans as to why the vibes aren't as strong
Speaker 1: as aid Hope. In some cases it's the quarterback. In
Speaker 1: other cases it's the running game, which has not been good.
Speaker 1: Some cases offensive coordinator, it's a coordinator, the play calling
Speaker 1: with Seth Latrell. The fact that it's been all over
Speaker 1: the map like that I do not take as a
Speaker 1: good sign. Now they're home this week against Tennessee. Maybe
Speaker 1: this is their opportunity to kind of get back on
Speaker 1: the straight and narrow. But it sounds like among the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma people that listen to us, the fact that they're
Speaker 1: underwhelmed is meaningful because I feel it too, and they're
Speaker 1: watching the team a lot more closely than I am.
Speaker 1: So I think we're in agreement.
Speaker 2: We're in agreement with being underwhelmed. And I think you're
Speaker 2: right that it speaks to the state of Oklahoma that
Speaker 2: the die hards, the people that watch every single snap
Speaker 2: and read everything that everybody says, whatever, that nobody can
Speaker 2: come to like a consensus top three things that are
Speaker 2: wrong with Oklahoma that like, you would take it pretty
Speaker 2: harshly and personally. If I said, Ty, these are the
Speaker 2: five least favorite part arts of your face and you're like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, You're counting five parts of my face that
Speaker 2: you take issue with, right, That'd be tough. So that's
Speaker 2: that's where we are.
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, I think get a little bit of a pass,
Speaker 1: but obviously underwhelmed after the Toledo loss.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just a loss, it was a comfortable drubbing.
Speaker 1: They got beat down. Their performance versus their sp plus
Speaker 1: projection was negative thirty two. Yeah, negative thirty two. They
Speaker 1: were twenty points worse on defense and twelve points worth
Speaker 1: worse on offense. So the fact that they bottomed out
Speaker 1: in the way that they did against Toledo, which is
Speaker 1: not a great offensive team, that's very underwhelming. And this
Speaker 1: is a rebuilding situation. They're not gonna be good this year.
Speaker 1: They're never gonna be good this year, but that one,
Speaker 1: that one left a mark for me. If I'm being real,
Speaker 1: I gotta say underwhelmed solely based on that game.
Speaker 2: This is the Nick Saban Louisiana Monroe moment for Jeff
Speaker 2: Levy and Mississippi State. Yeah, Mississippi State underwhelming so far,
Speaker 2: but obviously given the last you know, eighteen months or
Speaker 2: so for Mississippi State, willing to extend some grace, but
Speaker 2: Toledo shouldn't be included in that grace blanket, probably in
Speaker 2: this moment. But yeah, it's been a full roster turnover.
Speaker 2: Continue Texas A and M Dan Texas A and M
Speaker 2: I've been pleasantly slightly overwhelmed by to open your season
Speaker 2: against a noted AIM team and show a good amount
Speaker 2: of fight, especially on defense. I'm not going to say
Speaker 2: that I'm fully overwhelmed by them even after the Florida game,
Speaker 2: just because I think quarterback questions kind of persist, like
Speaker 2: where they're going to be long term in terms of
Speaker 2: Connor Wegman's health, and you know, the upside of Marcel
Speaker 2: Reed is obvious, but I don't know. We're what two
Speaker 2: three games into the mic Elco Era, I would say,
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, it's a it's not a full gust of overwhelming,
Speaker 2: but it's a gentle overwhelming breeze.
Speaker 1: TI. I was impressed by what they did on the
Speaker 1: road against Florida this past week and that's not to
Speaker 1: say that Florida is any kind of great team. We
Speaker 1: were both on Florida though they were at home. They
Speaker 1: were a four point dog.
Speaker 2: I let my DJ Lagway emotions get the best of me,
Speaker 2: and that happens.
Speaker 1: I tried to filter those out, and I still liked
Speaker 1: Florida's chances in that game. Okay, but A and M just
Speaker 1: sort of blow them out. It really wasn't really wasn't
Speaker 1: a close game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, feisty defense. I like them.
Speaker 1: I think I'm slightly overwhelmed as well. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I'm in agreement with you. Where do you stand on Auburn?
Speaker 1: I am underwhelmed by Auburn in this moment? Are you
Speaker 1: underwhelmed by Auburn the version that had Peyton Thorn? And
Speaker 1: you feel better now about Hank Brown?
Speaker 2: No? Because it's New Mexico, I don't care. T Mac
Speaker 2: had seven hundred and eighteen yards against New Mexico in
Speaker 2: Week one. I don't know what we consider all due
Speaker 2: respect to Bronco, Mendenhull and the Lobos, I just don't
Speaker 2: know what we can consider a performance against New Mexico
Speaker 2: to be because they played a Cal team that I
Speaker 2: think has some fight in them, but I don't think
Speaker 2: they're gonna win nine or ten games. I think there's
Speaker 2: still gonna be a bowl ish team Cal and if
Speaker 2: they're going with Hank Brown the rest of the way, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued. I'm definitely intrigued by a Hank Brown Auburn
Speaker 2: team in ways that I wasn't with Peyton Thorn. But
Speaker 2: paint Thorn is also like laid the lumber against terrible teams.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm still a little bit underwhelmed
Speaker 2: because that Cal game at home was an opportunity to say,
Speaker 2: here is the two point zero version of Hugh Freeze's Auburn,
Speaker 2: and you know it's Hugh Freeze. I saw some stories.
Speaker 2: I think they was sort of taken out of context,
Speaker 2: a little bit like throwing players under the bus and
Speaker 2: said the coaches called a near perfect game against Cal.
Speaker 2: I don't think the full context was there, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. At home against that team like that was
Speaker 2: a nice opportunity to show up the progress that we
Speaker 2: had been hoping to see from Auburn.
Speaker 1: What strikes me about Auburn stop me when you get
Speaker 1: to a game here on the schedule, I'm ready that
Speaker 1: feels like a gimmey win. Okay, a team that you
Speaker 1: look at and you say, yeah, Auburn is definitely better
Speaker 1: than that team. This week Arkansas. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can say that about Arkansas.
Speaker 2: He said it's Arkansas at home.
Speaker 1: Arkansas at home. Okay, Next week Oklahoma at home. Definitely
Speaker 1: not a gimme.
Speaker 2: Not a gimme.
Speaker 1: Week six on the road at Georgia, definitely.
Speaker 2: Not not a gimme.
Speaker 1: They're on by week seven, maybe that's the answer. But
Speaker 1: the gate on the road at Missoo, definitely not a gimme.
Speaker 1: Week nine on the road at Kentucky. Kentucky didn't look great,
Speaker 1: but I still don't think that's a gimme. Right, And
Speaker 1: then week ten the answers Vanderbilt, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a gimme.
Speaker 2: And then maybe it's after what is not against Diego
Speaker 2: Pavia other than lose.
Speaker 1: Maybe then it's week twelve after another buye against Louisiana Monroe.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with Auburn, it's not a question of
Speaker 2: gimme or not a gimme. It's sort of a squint question.
Speaker 2: Can you squint and see wins against dot dot dot?
Speaker 2: Because that's what you're doing right now. With Auburn's offense.
Speaker 2: I could see wins against Arkansas. That's doable. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think they're beating Oklahoma. They're not beating Georgia. I
Speaker 2: don't think they're beating Massoo. I could squint and see
Speaker 2: a win against Kentucky if we get the version of
Speaker 2: Kentucky we saw last week. Sure, and certainly against Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1: But either way, they've already got a loss on the schedule,
Speaker 1: and if you count Oklahoma, Georgia and MISSOO, that's three more.
Speaker 1: They've also got a game late against Alabama that is
Speaker 1: a rivalry. But I think Bama looks head.
Speaker 2: And shoulders above I mean, they were a free play
Speaker 2: from winning that game last year, but yeah, last year
Speaker 2: they were.
Speaker 1: But I think Bama looks head and shoulders above Auburn
Speaker 1: at this point. That game is at Brian Denny this year,
Speaker 1: the A and M later in the year. I don't
Speaker 1: know what version of A and M we're gonna get.
Speaker 1: So this looks like a five lost team to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look at the teams are going to stack
Speaker 2: the box against Jarquess Hunter and they're going to force
Speaker 2: whoever's that quarterback to beat them, And so now you're saying, Okay,
Speaker 2: what is the evolution what is the development of again
Speaker 2: Peyton Thorne or Hank Brown look like against these teams
Speaker 2: who have now who are now going to start looking
Speaker 2: at Auburn and saying, like, oh man, our schedule is
Speaker 2: really tough, but like we've circled the Auburn game as
Speaker 2: an opportunity because we know that their offense is kind
Speaker 2: of shaky at times, so they're gonna be getting a
Speaker 2: lot of best shots too.
Speaker 1: Last two teams are Arkansas and Missou. Underwhelmed, overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: I'm just whelmed by Arkansas in this moment, if that's okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know the way that they fell down to
Speaker 2: UAB obviously in a letdown situation after Oklahoma State. I
Speaker 2: believe for the week before and that overt time loss.
Speaker 2: I still need to see, like I'm very much overwhelmed
Speaker 2: by Arkansas on the ground. I'm very much overwhelmed by
Speaker 2: Arkansas on defense at times like looking improved. I don't know.
Speaker 2: The passing game, to me is still a pretty big
Speaker 2: element of all of this with Arkansas feelings, and I'm
Speaker 2: not there yet I like, you know, Andrew Armstrong so
Speaker 2: a solid receiver. I don't think he's a star, an
Speaker 2: SEC star receiver. But I'm still a little bit whelmed
Speaker 2: after that UAB game.
Speaker 1: I think I'm overwhelmed by Arkansas, Okay, And you could
Speaker 1: probably pick that up from the timber in my voice
Speaker 1: whenever I talk about the Razorbacks this year. Maybe I'm
Speaker 1: too focused on Taylor Green. I just think he's crazy
Speaker 1: talented and he's not a finished product. There is definitely
Speaker 1: a rawness to his game at this point that if
Speaker 1: you're an Arkansas fan, you know your heart's in your
Speaker 1: throat more often than not, knowing this guy's got a
Speaker 1: big mistake in a more an incredible brill. It's kind
Speaker 1: of one or the other. Their postgame win expectancy in
Speaker 1: that Oklahoma Steak game, the one that they lost in overtime,
Speaker 1: they gave it away. Yeah eighty six percent, Yeah eighty
Speaker 1: six percent. So they played well enough to beat So
Speaker 1: doesn't that welm you a little? Welm? I mean I'm
Speaker 1: saying I'm overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: No, I know, I'm saying wellem is like, bring them
Speaker 2: back to like average whelming, not over or under.
Speaker 1: Between between what the defense looked like against UAB and
Speaker 1: how they lost at Oklahoma Steak Game. Yeah, it definitely
Speaker 1: brings them back down to earth. But I the general
Speaker 1: sentiment here is I feel better about them than it
Speaker 1: did in the preseason.
Speaker 2: At Auburn A and M at Jerry World, I believe,
Speaker 2: and Tennessee at home are the next three.
Speaker 1: It's not just those games. They've got LSU, They've got all.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying short term.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got Texas, they got Miszoo still in the schedule.
Speaker 1: It's a brutal schedule. Yeah, absolutely brutal.
Speaker 2: Feels like you need a passing game.
Speaker 1: Feels like you need a passing game. So far, so far,
Speaker 1: I've been I've been good with Arkansas, and then the
Speaker 1: last one's mis Zoo.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say overwhelmed, slightly overwhelmed. They took care
Speaker 2: of business against nobody in particular those first couple weeks.
Speaker 2: They want a clunker against BC. I'm willing to extend
Speaker 2: a certain amount of grace to Missoo given the step
Speaker 2: forward they took last year. I don't know, they adjusted
Speaker 2: really well defensively to Castellanos and BC. So that's something
Speaker 2: I don't know. It didn't feel like these two teams
Speaker 2: were competitive in the second half of a game, which
Speaker 2: seems important. So yeah, I'm slightly overwhelmed by Miszoo. Like
Speaker 2: I think it's Corey batun Is, the new from South
Speaker 2: Alabama defensive coordinator from Miszoo that I did a really
Speaker 2: nice job adjusting. We Still I would be more whelmed.
Speaker 2: I would have more overwhelming whelming. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: want to see more fun Luther Burden down the field,
Speaker 2: Like I want to see kind of a video game
Speaker 2: element to Miszoo that we haven't really seen thus far.
Speaker 1: Of their remaining game. So the remaining nine games, there's
Speaker 1: only one projected loss here that's on the road to Alabama.
Speaker 1: It's such a great schedule, but it is a really
Speaker 1: good schedule.
Speaker 2: For an SEC team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a very favorable schedule. So do they
Speaker 1: miss well, they I mentioned they played Bama, right, but
Speaker 1: they don't have to play Georgia. They don't have to
Speaker 1: play Tennessee. Where's the Bama game. Bama game is in
Speaker 1: Bryan Denny, so that's tough. Okay, they do not have
Speaker 1: to play teams like LSU. Texas is not on this
Speaker 1: Texas not on the schedule. It's seemingly the best teams
Speaker 1: in the SEC are not in the schedule. Yeah, with
Speaker 1: Thelemel right, Noel miss.
Speaker 2: Noel Miss, no Georgia, no Texas. That's great.
Speaker 1: I think I am about where I expected with Miszoo. Okay,
Speaker 1: is where I'm at. But game against Vandy this week
Speaker 1: before bye and then on the road at A and
Speaker 1: M Kyle Field, that'll be an interesting matchup. We'll see.
Speaker 2: You know who they do have. They do have the
Speaker 2: Creator on the road, right, Lenoris. Yeah, they do have
Speaker 2: Lenora sellers in It's not in Miszoo. It's not in Columbia.
Speaker 2: I guess it's Columbia, Columbia. It's in Colombia. It's just
Speaker 2: the other Columbia.
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, okay, correct, all the way out into middle
Speaker 1: of November week twelveth.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a great schedule. It's such a good schedule.
Speaker 1: Right in so Verbo at gmail dot com or hit
Speaker 1: us up on social media, leave a comment if you
Speaker 1: can leave a comment somewhere on this podcast, let us
Speaker 1: know where you agree, disagree, are indifferent. But thanks to
Speaker 1: Kyle for sending in that SEC question. He says a
Speaker 1: lot of underwhelming showings this year. We'll see how right
Speaker 1: we are about some of these teams as we get
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper into this campaign, Dan, Great, where
Speaker 1: are we going next? Last, but certainly not least, let's
Speaker 1: do a little bit of a look ahead for the week.
Speaker 1: There are three games of note on Thursday and Friday
Speaker 1: that we need to discuss here. We've been doing these
Speaker 1: previews a few days early because, as they said an
Speaker 1: episode or two ago, typically when we would do the
Speaker 1: previews for these games as part of the Wednesday or
Speaker 1: Thursday preview episode, we'd have to stack it all the
Speaker 1: way at the back end of the show because we
Speaker 1: didn't want the first thing you heard to go stale
Speaker 1: within twenty four hours. So now we finally it took
Speaker 1: us seventeen years whatever the hell it's been of doing
Speaker 1: this show to figure out, oh, may we should just
Speaker 1: talk about these games earlier. Yeah, so we're talking about
Speaker 1: them earlier. Doing on Tuesday this year. This is kind
Speaker 1: of like our Early Bird special Friday eight pm on Fox.
Speaker 1: It is a ranked contest between number twenty four Illinois
Speaker 1: and now number twenty two Nebraska. The vibes are strong
Speaker 1: at Nebraska then right now they are very strong. They
Speaker 1: are a nine point favorite in this one. I take
Speaker 1: what you said about Illinois and I commit that to memory.
Speaker 1: I look at this game, though, and I say, oh, man,
Speaker 1: and this is going to be a rock fight. This
Speaker 1: looks like a rock fight to me, where yeah, Dilan
Speaker 1: Royola looks a little bit more mortal. The Illinois pass
Speaker 1: defense is significantly better this year than they were last year,
Speaker 1: and I think better than anything Royola has seen so far.
Speaker 1: So even if he doesn't go out there and look
Speaker 1: like he's out of his depth, I still expect less
Speaker 1: emphasis on the pass and more on the run, because
Speaker 1: that's where Illinois is gettable. You want to run against
Speaker 1: Illinois if you can.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: That was the concern coming into the year. The stats,
Speaker 1: for whatever they're worth at this point through three weeks
Speaker 1: of the year, also support that that's a bit of
Speaker 1: an issue.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: I'm saying rock fight. I think we're talking about field
Speaker 1: position and time of possession and turnovers and all the
Speaker 1: big stuff in the Upper Midwest that makes the Big
Speaker 1: ten the Big ten. Mm HM twenty to thirteen Nebraska.
Speaker 1: I'm going points here, taking Illinois plus the points, but
Speaker 1: illinoid to ultimately succumbed to Nebraska on the road.
Speaker 2: How's the weather going to be in Lincoln, Nebraska? In
Speaker 2: check the weather, hot Ty, It's Friday night.
Speaker 1: Friday night, eight pm on Fox.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a high of ninety degrees, I think in Nebraska.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that changes anything for you. You know,
Speaker 2: I was searching for reasons to take those points, and
Speaker 2: I think you're you're not wrong when you talk about
Speaker 2: it being a struggle at times and field position and
Speaker 2: you know, lunging for a first down marker on thirty
Speaker 2: three or something like that, that you know every yard
Speaker 2: is going to be difficult. I think Illinois might be
Speaker 2: one of our first LRO teams of the season that
Speaker 2: first half against Central Michigan. I like the win against Kansas.
Speaker 2: I do Kansas just also lost to UNLV, did they not?
Speaker 1: They did?
Speaker 2: Am I correct? And that result, so we kind of
Speaker 2: have to downgrade the importance of Illinois's win in that moment.
Speaker 2: I am a believer in Luke Altmeyer's development and those receivers.
Speaker 2: There was a great clip of I think it was
Speaker 2: Pat Bryant blocking his ass off against CMU on a
Speaker 2: long run. I love seeing stuff like that. That's what
Speaker 2: makes me upgrade a team. But I think this is
Speaker 2: just a bad matchup. We saw Nebraska's defensive line was
Speaker 2: able to do against Colorado's offensive line and really put
Speaker 2: Doris Sanders in a bind. So I just Nebraska's at home.
Speaker 2: They haven't played a road game, I don't believe yet.
Speaker 2: So there is a certain amount of comfort the Nebraska's
Speaker 2: feeling right now. It's been an easy path thus far.
Speaker 2: Illinois will be more difficult. But ultimately I'm going to
Speaker 2: say something like twenty seven to seventeen, and Nebraska covers
Speaker 2: barely covers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be right around that number. No, I think
Speaker 1: that's fair to say. I've got it at seven, You've
Speaker 1: got it at ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also on Friday Night, let's talk about the f animal
Speaker 1: coming out of hibernation with the Bible. Seven point thirty
Speaker 1: on ESPN, Stanford versus Syracuse, a classic ACC rivalry, damnastic.
Speaker 1: Stanford now begins a run of Syracuse, Clemson, Virginia Tech,
Speaker 1: and Notre Dame on four straight weeks. Not feel good
Speaker 1: for the Cardinal.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I looked at this game. I did a brief, brief
Speaker 1: look at the numbers and the stat profiles, for both
Speaker 1: these teams, and I just feel like Syracuse is way better.
Speaker 1: They're at home, it's Friday night, good bit of travel
Speaker 1: for a Stanford team that I'm not crazy high on.
Speaker 1: They're still rebuilding, right, this is a game I think
Speaker 1: that Syracuse should cover.
Speaker 2: No, I think so. I mean, Syracuse hasn't been fully
Speaker 2: tested yet as much as we like to have fun
Speaker 2: with it. And I don't think Stanford is going to
Speaker 2: offer that, but just in terms of what we believe
Speaker 2: Syracuse to be or not be. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: The Stanford defense I still think has a ways to go.
Speaker 2: There's interesting players on this Stanford offense, though, like I think,
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I still think they're behind.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go again.
Speaker 1: The number is, the number is nine and a half.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take. I think I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: Qu's here.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like we have to.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Youse and I feel good about it.
Speaker 2: And again it this is what my grandfather told me,
Speaker 2: his father told me the father before that it's not
Speaker 2: truly the fall, it's not truly called football season until
Speaker 2: we see that Stanford Syracuse ACC matchup.
Speaker 1: I know so I know here we are. It will
Speaker 1: be written into the record books forever more. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: classic ACC matchup between these two schools and last, but
Speaker 1: certainly not least, GE five game. Talked about South Alabama
Speaker 1: putting up eighty seven points last week. Yep, this one's
Speaker 1: on Thursday on ESPN. South Alabama going on the road
Speaker 1: to boone square off against app State. App States about
Speaker 1: an eight point favorite.
Speaker 2: Week after an emotional comeback win.
Speaker 1: Yes there should be points in this game. Yes, there
Speaker 1: should be points in this game because I don't know
Speaker 1: I really trust either defense, so I think it's very
Speaker 1: beneficial looking at this one for app State and Joey Aguiar,
Speaker 1: I think they're going to put up a ton of
Speaker 1: yardage through the air, but I also don't know if
Speaker 1: they can get take in South alabamacause I don't know
Speaker 1: if they trust their defense either. So I'm long way
Speaker 1: of saying, give me Upstate minus the number. It's forty
Speaker 1: two to twenty eight, a bunch of points somewhere in
Speaker 1: that range. A fun Thursday night game if you're in
Speaker 1: the market for one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you know, a South Alabama Jaguar team
Speaker 2: that had to sort of start very late. It's major
Speaker 2: ap away right correct at South Alabama, and so they
Speaker 2: lose you know, Kane Wamick to Alabama a little bit
Speaker 2: late in the process. So you know, I still think
Speaker 2: there's an adjustment period with South Alabama. I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give those points as well. The short week road thing,
Speaker 2: it's it's kind of nice to pick against that team.
Speaker 2: If we believe in app State as a quality team,
Speaker 2: I'm going to give the points.
Speaker 1: So the schedule for the week ahead, just in terms
Speaker 1: of the solid verbal.
Speaker 2: It's a fun one, this skit for us and for
Speaker 2: week four in general.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what it looks like for us is we
Speaker 1: dropped the recap episodes midnight on Saturdays. But before we
Speaker 1: get to that point, we got the preview episode that
Speaker 1: drops to the feed on Thursday. We've got Big ten Break,
Speaker 1: which has been going really well and is a ton
Speaker 1: of fun, that drops to our YouTube channel on Friday
Speaker 1: nine am is when you could watch that. But bigger picture,
Speaker 1: just in terms of the verbowler hood, Dan week four
Speaker 1: definitely better than Week three, and there are a handful
Speaker 1: of matchups that I think we bubble to the surface
Speaker 1: here and look at and say Yeah, these are games
Speaker 1: that are going to tell us a lot about the
Speaker 1: teams involved. We've got NC State at Clemson. Clemson's a
Speaker 1: heavy favorite in that game by seventeen. Yeah, but we
Speaker 1: will definitely know a lot more about NC State on
Speaker 1: the back side of this one. You mentioned USC at
Speaker 1: Michigan before USC right now time of recording, we're doing
Speaker 1: this recording Monday afternoon, five and a half point road
Speaker 1: favorite in the Big House four PM on Fox A
Speaker 1: Big twelve showdown between Utah and Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State
Speaker 1: favored by two and a half points? Is Cam rising
Speaker 1: back for that one? Is that the assumption? I hope?
Speaker 2: So what do you say? That number? Is the Utah
Speaker 2: game two and a half.
Speaker 1: In favor of Oklahoma State and they're at home.
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, the USC game up to a
Speaker 2: six and a half six and a half now at
Speaker 2: some books in this moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we got the Utah Oklahoma State game, which
Speaker 1: is going to be very significant for the Big twelve season,
Speaker 1: and then Tennessee at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: You have this down Oklahoma minus seven on the document,
Speaker 2: which gave me a second.
Speaker 1: I think I meant to put plus seven. It's Tennessee
Speaker 1: minus seven, Oklahoma plus seven at home Okay seven thirty
Speaker 1: on ABC.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma has a moment to show that it can grow.
Speaker 2: Now Tennessee has a moment because they've already proven it
Speaker 2: against NC State. I don't know this is I hope
Speaker 2: it's not ugly, that's all I am pointing to. I
Speaker 2: hope Oklahoma is able to Maybe it was a look
Speaker 2: ahead spot against Tulane, but I kind of doubt it.
Speaker 2: So I hope for Oklahoma that we get something new
Speaker 2: from this offense.
Speaker 1: And very quickly. Just some other matchups that I think
Speaker 1: are interesting and meaningful. Florida is only a four and
Speaker 1: a half point road favored against Mississippi State, which says
Speaker 1: a lot about where the book makers have Florida right now.
Speaker 1: That number should be bigger given the state of Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: The fact that it isn't is I think pretty damning
Speaker 1: for billion Napier. I agree they lose this game, they
Speaker 1: go into a bye week after this. If they lose
Speaker 1: this game, it's over.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: So it may already be over.
Speaker 2: I mean, given the context of Mississippi State losing to Toledo,
Speaker 2: you can't lose to the team that lost to the
Speaker 2: team right in that case Toledo. So I think vibes
Speaker 2: are down bad.
Speaker 1: Vibes are really bad. And like I said, it may
Speaker 1: already be over for Napier right, but certainly if they
Speaker 1: don't win that game, that would be very problematic.
Speaker 2: We should after this show record a Billy Napier has
Speaker 2: been let go just so we can get at the
Speaker 2: algorithm like that tie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably the first one to go, not an
Speaker 1: if this season. We also have Auburn at Arkansaw. We
Speaker 1: mentioned that one before. That'll be interesting. Yeah, three point
Speaker 1: thirty on the ACC network, rock right now, getting four
Speaker 1: and a half on the road A Virginia Tech. That
Speaker 1: might be my lock of the year right now. Wow,
Speaker 1: I don't think Virginia Tech's that good. I was real
Speaker 1: high in Virginia Tech, mostly as a byproduct of Kiren
Speaker 1: drones in the schedule, and so far, I think they
Speaker 1: have underwhelmed.
Speaker 2: But doesn't Virginia Tech potentially fall into their not who
Speaker 2: they are in their worst day, They're not who they
Speaker 2: are on their best day.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just haven't been overwhelmed by
Speaker 1: any of their first couple showings so far. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're not good. Okay, so I'm already in
Speaker 1: at Rutgers plus five and a half. That numbers already
Speaker 1: come down. Wouldn't surprise me if it continued going down.
Speaker 1: What else we got here? We got Miami, Ohio at
Speaker 1: Notre Dame another MAC game. Oh god, we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens there.
Speaker 2: Look, Notre Dame has been nothing if not competitive against
Speaker 2: the Mac this season.
Speaker 1: Correct, thank you now. Georgia Tech at Louisville should be fun.
Speaker 1: Should tell us a lot about Louisville. I desperately wanted
Speaker 1: to talk more about Louisville as part of this episode.
Speaker 1: I did not feel we had much to go on.
Speaker 1: They've only played two games, so Georgia Tech can score.
Speaker 1: We'll see what the defense looks like for Louisville at home.
Speaker 1: We'll see what Tyler Shuck looks like against Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1: That'll be a meaningful game, I think, just to help
Speaker 1: us suss out where the ACC's at. The Skillet game
Speaker 1: TCU minus two and a half at SMU. I think
Speaker 1: I'm really heavy on TCU there.
Speaker 2: Okay, coming off of a kind of an ugly gack
Speaker 2: against UCF. But Kevin Jennings new quarterback, full time starter
Speaker 2: at SMU rivalry game on the CW. That's how I
Speaker 2: been calling.
Speaker 1: That one, I believe, So five pm. And then just
Speaker 1: to round things out very quickly, some other games, just
Speaker 1: to be mindful of, we'll preview a bunch of these
Speaker 1: on the Thursday show. I'm ready. Iowa at Minnesota's the
Speaker 1: seven thirty NBC game on Saturday night, Great Miami at
Speaker 1: USF at seven pm, m Spicy, Spicy. We called this
Speaker 1: game out many moons ago.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Michigan State at Boston College. I put it on here
Speaker 1: just because I talked a lot about Michigan State eight
Speaker 1: and Boston College is interesting. Yeah, Michigan State at Boston College,
Speaker 1: Baylor at Colorado. It's only about a one point spread
Speaker 1: something like that in favor of Colorado.
Speaker 2: I think it's another Sawyer Robertson game, I believe for Baylor. Okay,
Speaker 2: and Cal at Florida State. Florida State favored by one
Speaker 2: and a half points.
Speaker 1: Who at home at home?
Speaker 2: I mean Cal's already gone to Auburn, yeah, and won
Speaker 2: it like it would so Florida State's favored.
Speaker 1: You said one and a half points? Is the is
Speaker 1: the line right now.
Speaker 2: Oh well, here's what you do need to know for
Speaker 2: whatever it means. Last year, I believe DJU absolutely lit
Speaker 2: up Cal at Oregon State at Oregon State, different coach,
Speaker 2: different team, different everything. So I don't know, maybe there's
Speaker 2: something there. But if you're talking about a quarterback who
Speaker 2: has struggled for a team whose vibes are down, one
Speaker 2: of the last people i'd like game planning against my
Speaker 2: team with Justin Wilcox, who just throws ghosts into defense
Speaker 2: at his best throws a lot of ghosts into those
Speaker 2: passing lanes. The other game here that I'll call out
Speaker 2: and then we'll call it a show, please, Bowling Green
Speaker 2: at Texas A and m Okay, So, Bowling Green fought.
Speaker 1: Penn State in Beaver Stadium. M hmm, only lost that one,
Speaker 1: I think by a touchdown. Bowling Green was a team
Speaker 1: I called out in the preseason when he did the
Speaker 1: MAC preview. I think Bowling States or Bowling Green, excuse me,
Speaker 1: is a pretty good team. That's not to say they're
Speaker 1: going to go into Kyle Field and win. I do
Speaker 1: think they'll fight. The point spread, right, how is twenty
Speaker 1: two points? I would probably air on the side of
Speaker 1: Bowling Green, even though it's in Kyle Field, right, it's
Speaker 1: not particularly a look ahead situation for a team like
Speaker 1: Texas A and M who got Arkansas the following week.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of a sandwich situation though, right,
Speaker 1: But it kind of is right. It's not a full
Speaker 1: blown look ahead or let down, but it's it's innocuous
Speaker 1: looking enough that you could definitely construct an argument for
Speaker 1: a fourteen point Texas A and.
Speaker 2: M way right a cover right. I think Mike Elcho
Speaker 2: is too good a coach, and there's too much on
Speaker 2: this A and M team to feel a big threat,
Speaker 2: especially after Bowling Green gave Penn State all it could
Speaker 2: handle for two or three quarters. Yep, so or the
Speaker 2: entire game? Really?
Speaker 1: So, is something right, something to keep your eye on. Sure,
Speaker 1: as we talk about those late games that maybe get
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle, we probably won't have time to
Speaker 1: do the full preview of that one. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just just bear that game in mind, Okay.
Speaker 2: Bearing it in mind?
Speaker 1: Tie? That is all I have, boys and girls?
Speaker 2: So what's your answer for my original question?
Speaker 1: Then? What's what was the original question?
Speaker 2: What leftover food is actually better left over than fresh?
Speaker 1: Pad tie is really good leftover.
Speaker 2: Okay, do cold or do you reheat it? I do
Speaker 2: the reheat. There are some elements of cold, like Thai food,
Speaker 2: Chinese food that is so good.
Speaker 1: I would pad Thai comes to mind first. I would
Speaker 1: also say that reheated chili, Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 2: Give that those flavors time to mix around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, depending how you reheat the pizza.
Speaker 2: No, pizza is not one hundred and answer at all,
Speaker 2: but can I respect you? It's all the same.
Speaker 1: If you do it in the oven, it can be
Speaker 1: just as good the day after. I think it's one
Speaker 1: of your worst takes ever. Okay, it's fine, it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's okay. You disagree for different people. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: another thought. I'm blanking. What's your well?
Speaker 2: I mentioned brownies right, like they're a pan of hot
Speaker 2: brownies is delicious. Of course, brownies are better cold. They're
Speaker 2: way better cold. You give well, I'm saying they're they're
Speaker 2: delicious all the same, Like they're still good, but you
Speaker 2: give them. I don't know where you store your brownies
Speaker 2: of whether it's like a tupperware or you just put
Speaker 2: a you know, a thing of foil over the pan
Speaker 2: and set it aside or put it in a cold oven.
Speaker 2: However you store your your left like it's so much
Speaker 2: better that next day.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not even cool. I put him in the fridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chili, I think is probably like the Apex answer here,
Speaker 2: chili's great warmed up. Well, I'm not even saying that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's so much better when it has
Speaker 2: time to sit even longer. So yeah, I agree, that's
Speaker 2: my answer. I love a good like second third day chili.
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