WEBVTT - Leftover Week 3 Thoughts + SEC Over/Unders & Weekday Picks - College Football

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal ull that.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so

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<v Speaker 2>many players say, well, I want to be happy. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to be happy for a day? Edith Steak, is

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<v Speaker 1>And then and tie me Tuesday, Inn Rubinstein, how are you,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great. I was just thinking as we started, because

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<v Speaker 2>this is sort of a leftovers slash look ahead show,

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<v Speaker 2>that it's sort of the opposite of a letdown look

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<v Speaker 2>ahead sandwich, because we're not let down in any way,

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<v Speaker 2>but the leftover element. I was thinking about what foods

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<v Speaker 2>are better left over. Maybe we can circle back to

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<v Speaker 2>that business term at the end of the episode, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was just thinking about, like chili brownies, those types

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<v Speaker 2>of thing where like the flavor just intensifies overnight and

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<v Speaker 2>so on that note, maybe the solid verbal flavoring tie

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<v Speaker 2>has intensified since Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that? I think it's entirely possible. And you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is that show where we go back through the

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<v Speaker 1>leftover thoughts. We go through a few odds and ends

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<v Speaker 1>that we did not have a chance to address. We

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<v Speaker 1>do take a look forward. We're going to play a game.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a suggestion from the Verballer hood. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a jam packed show here now as we've

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<v Speaker 1>had about two days to let week three percolate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>think it through. What does this mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're out here to try and decipher on

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<v Speaker 1>This is not unlike the Seinfeld episode where George tries

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<v Speaker 1>we will talk momentarily about Verballers dot com and what

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<v Speaker 1>top twelve pole that we want to discuss. But of

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, babe, it has been a very very active

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna, as I said, incorporate some of that

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<v Speaker 1>into today's show without further ado. Though we do have

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<v Speaker 1>a new verbaler top twelve pole. This is something that

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<v Speaker 1>to be a voter. But we have a new poll.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit different. Okay, Texas is now the

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<v Speaker 1>new number one team that kind of echoes what we

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<v Speaker 1>have seen In other polling across the college football ether,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Texas one, Georgia two, Ohio State three, Alabama four.

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee has continued its upward trajectory. They are now the

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<v Speaker 1>new number five team, ahead of Ole Miss and Miszoo.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got six teams, by the way, from the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>that are in this or ball or top twelve poll.

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<v Speaker 1>And then to round things out, we've got Miami at eight, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>your organ ducs at nine. We've got the Penn State

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<v Speaker 1>and Nindee Lyons my alma mater at ten, followed by

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<v Speaker 1>USC and Utah. I don't know if you've got any

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<v Speaker 1>great reaction to that. I will add that the others

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<v Speaker 1>receiving votes is quite interesting because we've got k State

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<v Speaker 1>and Oplaha, which we're both in that category a week ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Also Oklahoma is in there. Also, Nebraska is starting to

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<v Speaker 1>get some love and in others receiving votes. Top twelve

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<v Speaker 1>for Nebraska feels a little rich. At this point, we

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<v Speaker 1>will figure out more. We're going to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois game that's going to be played on Friday night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a rank battle between Nebraska and Illinois. We can

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<v Speaker 1>get to that later on, but nice to see them

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little bit of love here. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any reaction to this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see more before feeling incredible about Utah

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<v Speaker 2>in this moment. And I know it's a cam rising

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<v Speaker 2>injury situation, So yeah, I think Utah should be floating

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<v Speaker 2>in there. Kansas State's win was very nice against Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>so I appreciate them in there. Oklahoma State, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know they've they've laid some lumber tie, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's largely fine. I would probably have USC ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of Penn State in this moment. If this is a

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<v Speaker 2>week to week we have, Yeah, I would put USC

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of Penn State. I might even put USC ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of Oregon with Oregon's early struggles. Struggles, but I understand that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Oregon looked a lot stronger. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. With what USC did against LSU in Week

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<v Speaker 2>one and then shut out Utah State, I know there

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<v Speaker 2>are lingering concerns about their defense. We'll learn a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Michigan week correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct favorite on the road, Favorite on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Five and a half six points, USC favored coming off

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<v Speaker 2>of bye Yeah, I would I would give consideration there

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously Texas making the leap over Georgia. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I would still take Georgia if we were playing on

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<v Speaker 2>a neutral site this coming week after what Georgia did

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<v Speaker 2>against Clemson still in Week one. But I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I get Texas, Texas ascent, especially with arch Manning coming

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<v Speaker 2>in and losing nothing against a struggling UTSA.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you my reaction to this. Yeah, Frankly, my

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<v Speaker 1>reaction in looking at this and seeing how heavy it

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<v Speaker 1>is with SEC and Big ten teams, for sure, it's

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<v Speaker 1>are we going to get to a point where we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the playoff where both the Big twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>the ACC only get one team apiece and it's their

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<v Speaker 1>conference champion, right, which I don't think anybody wants. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want that. The way that this early season polling

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<v Speaker 1>is shaking out, it is screaming that that's a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Way too early to make any projections on that front.

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<v Speaker 1>But if that is the case, and we get one

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<v Speaker 1>G five team in one Big twelve team and one

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<v Speaker 1>ACC team, there's going to be a very very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>discussion later on in the year about which Big ten

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<v Speaker 1>and which SEC teams make it in this great This

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<v Speaker 1>is very very top heavy. Now with respect to the

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<v Speaker 1>top teams in each of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Conferences, I'm circling October twenty fourth in terms of teams

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<v Speaker 2>not in this top twelve yet. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 2>October twenty fourth gives us tie?

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<v Speaker 1>Please tell me?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Pitt hosting Syracuse? I don't know, man, Yeah, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready for the implied a sense of one of

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<v Speaker 2>those teams into our Verballer Top twelve. Maybe follow that

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<v Speaker 2>that week is going to decide big things to me.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about the Syracuse game that's being

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<v Speaker 1>played late in the week.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit later on in this episode is an

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<v Speaker 1>ACC classic. An ACC classic, Yes, between Stanford and Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to preview those weekday games here towards the

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<v Speaker 1>back half of this episode. So that's your Uverballer Top

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<v Speaker 1>twelve pole again. You can sign up to vote atverballers

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Let's get to those leftovers. It's to a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a flashback leftover thoughts from week three, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some games? What are some takes that you

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<v Speaker 1>conjured up as you were thinking back over the last

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours or so to week three? What is

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<v Speaker 1>popping up in your head.

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<v Speaker 2>I just took out the legal pad. I'm showing it

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<v Speaker 2>to the camera that people watching on YouTube can see

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<v Speaker 2>or our live stream on Fox Sports too. Thank you, Ty,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell them.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't tell them. Okay, we've hacked the matrix and we've

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<v Speaker 1>we've broadcasted our pirates signal up there without it.

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<v Speaker 2>How long would it take a Fox Sports executive to

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<v Speaker 2>learn that we have been like paying somebody behind the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes that controls the Fox Sports two feet I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it would be like people like upset that they're bull

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<v Speaker 2>riding or F four racing something like that wasn't being shown,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'd be found out.

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<v Speaker 1>But we could go. We could do that for three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks before being found out.

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<v Speaker 2>If we stream this at three am.

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<v Speaker 1>Three weeks, I give it three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports two three am one, it would be three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>You're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you even get Fox Sports too? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know how to watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no clue. I think it's it's deep on

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<v Speaker 2>cable packages something. If you have a sports package. How

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<v Speaker 2>much could it cost us to pay Fox to air

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<v Speaker 2>this show, not even have them pay us, like to

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<v Speaker 2>buy airtime on Fox Sports two at three am, seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five dollars a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone know anyone at Fox Sports two we could

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<v Speaker 1>technically launder a title for ourselves like TV stars Ty Hilde, Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Rubenstein, Fox Sports two, three am every Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, on my legal pathge, what do you guys in

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<v Speaker 2>my note?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you go?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Is it time to Readjust Arizona thoughts? After last

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<v Speaker 2>week in the wide Open Big twelve, they have a

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<v Speaker 2>buye before Utah and traveling to a resurgent byu Jake

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<v Speaker 2>Rhetz laugh getting it done for the Cougars. South Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>dropped eighty seven points this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about them too, because they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to preview that Thursday game against that state. But I

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<v Speaker 1>believe this hits one of your fantasy things, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely done? Eighty burger? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>You talked about the September eighty burger. Who is going

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<v Speaker 1>to put up the September eighty burger? I believe as

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<v Speaker 1>a context for that and South Alabama they almost got

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<v Speaker 1>the ninety. They scored eighty seven points.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was their first win. I believe, Yes, they

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<v Speaker 2>were gone in two now UNLV is currently ranked. They

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<v Speaker 2>are for the first time I believe ever in either

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<v Speaker 2>poll UNLV football. They have a buye before Fresno and

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<v Speaker 2>the Juggernaut that is the Syracuse Orange.

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<v Speaker 1>The Juggernaut. One thing that I found interesting kind of

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<v Speaker 1>on that point, if I could expand it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN made some headlines because the updated their FPI, which

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<v Speaker 1>I believe they update every week. Per the FPI, these

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<v Speaker 1>are the teams that are most likely to make the

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<v Speaker 1>playoff from the G five, all right, so they update.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a little column that says playoff percentage. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the top five are Boise State one, Memphis two, UNLV three.

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<v Speaker 1>Just pretty high for UNLV given some preseason expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree, I wasn't as high as I should have been, apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>And then NIU and Toledo. I did the MAC preview

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<v Speaker 1>and I was high on both those teams within the

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<v Speaker 1>context of the MAC. In the context of the playoff,

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<v Speaker 1>the MAC has acquitted itself pretty well playing out of

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<v Speaker 1>conference against some of these power opponents. Obviously, NIU is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that people.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to signature G five win thus far.

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<v Speaker 1>And it probably will be the remainder of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>But Toledo beat Mississippi State. I do want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>abou Misissippi State a little bit. We'll get there. Beyond that, though,

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<v Speaker 1>teams like USF and Tulane and Fresno and Coastal, even Army.

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<v Speaker 2>USF has that opportunity this week, right, they have Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>They have Miami this week. Yeah, even Army. These are

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<v Speaker 1>all teams that are ahead of two that we were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty high on that we have not mentioned yet. Liberty

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<v Speaker 1>an app State. Probably app State is lower. They're at

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<v Speaker 1>currently one percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice comeback Land against ECU, fell down sixty nothing I want.

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<v Speaker 1>To say to start they won twenty one nineteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably lower because they lost by forty six to Clemson.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a bad loss. It wouldn't be a bad loss

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<v Speaker 1>if it weren't by forty six to Clemson, but losing

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<v Speaker 1>by forty six to a power conference team is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>going to leave a dent. And Liberty because Liberty doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>play anyone. Liberty is right now at thirty percent three

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<v Speaker 1>point one percent. Will they play app State? Yes they do,

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<v Speaker 1>And that was kind of where I was going with this.

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<v Speaker 1>That game is in week five, Week four this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>so not this weekend, but the weekend after and week

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<v Speaker 1>five it's Liberty and app State in what I think

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<v Speaker 1>amounts to a de facto playing game, not to win anything,

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<v Speaker 1>just to remain in this conversation. Yeah, because whoever loses

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<v Speaker 1>this game, I think is out. That's how I would

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<v Speaker 1>interpret these percentages for whatever they're worth. So, if the

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<v Speaker 1>G five is your thing, and that's something that you're

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<v Speaker 1>curious about now in this playoff era, obviously they're all

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<v Speaker 1>competing to try and get into this thing. That game

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<v Speaker 1>in week five between app State and Liberty is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>taking on the form of a game that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be very, very significant, per that conversation, So just keep

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<v Speaker 1>that in the backs of your minds.

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<v Speaker 2>Two things Boise plays UNLV I think on a Friday night,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty fifth, So that makes that Pitt Syracuse game.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, that's a Thursday night. Or we get

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<v Speaker 2>some spicy acc action that night, so that'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>fun weekend either way. Okay, next thing, Ole Miss immediately

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<v Speaker 2>stomped Wake Forest. Did you see that? Wake Forest then

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<v Speaker 2>immediately canceled next year's return game breaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna yell. I need to conserve my voice

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<v Speaker 1>here if I'm going to make it through this season.

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<v Speaker 1>But y's okay, Yeah, I saw I had somebody right

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<v Speaker 1>to me and say you need to play breaking news

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<v Speaker 1>for that one. So this one's for you, old friend.

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<v Speaker 2>I respect that. I respect that immensely. Leave no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>as to where you stand about this matchup. Here's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing with ole Miss thus far, because we haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of reason to talk about ole Miss. They've

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<v Speaker 2>taken care of business pretty emphatically. They didn't allow a

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown to Wake Forest. So if going into the season

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<v Speaker 2>we said, yeah, I mean, look, they had Walter Nolan.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the big headline name along the defensive line that

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<v Speaker 2>they've added. But it's going to be the defense that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to help to define what ole Miss's ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>is this year, especially after what they weren't able to

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<v Speaker 2>do on defense in the SEC against in their two losses.

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<v Speaker 2>That that becomes more interesting because their defense is good

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<v Speaker 2>enough in this moment. I don't I think they have

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<v Speaker 2>written down here Georgia Southern before Kentucky at South Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>at LSU. So we really aren't going to know anything

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<v Speaker 2>for at least a couple of weeks about what ole

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<v Speaker 2>Miss truly can be. But not allowing a touchdown in

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<v Speaker 2>four quarters to wake Forest not nothing because that game

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<v Speaker 2>was almost immediately in garbage time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not nothing, and again probably too early to start

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<v Speaker 1>unpacking the stat profiles for any of these teams. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to take them all with a grain of salt,

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<v Speaker 1>although I will reference it in some of my leftover thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one rushing defense, Number one success rate allowed right,

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<v Speaker 1>not quite as good against the past. These are opponent adjusted.

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<v Speaker 1>These are those numbers that remove garbage time stats, things

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<v Speaker 1>of that nature. Defense is paced ahead right now of

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<v Speaker 1>where they were a year ago, and I think a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty significant way. So just something to keep an eye

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<v Speaker 1>on with Old Miss, because as you said, they did

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of work in the transfer portal to

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<v Speaker 1>try and beef up that side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I have this under maybe nothing, maybe something. Ollie Gordon

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<v Speaker 2>and the Oklahoma State rushing attack has been very ordinary

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<v Speaker 2>thus far against not great defenses. Interesting we hold him

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<v Speaker 2>to a higher standard. I don't know if he is

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<v Speaker 2>nicked up. I don't know if the offensive line is

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<v Speaker 2>beat up. Whatever it is, maybe nothing, maybe something.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting, especially when taken in concert with what I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in the preseason, which was Oli Gordon's stats

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<v Speaker 1>were through the roof obviously, Yeah, but the line stats

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<v Speaker 1>for Oklahoma State a year ago were not. And the

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<v Speaker 1>implication there is that what Ali Gordon did was by

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<v Speaker 1>virtue of his own talent and not with the line

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<v Speaker 1>giving them all that much support last season. Has something changed,

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<v Speaker 1>as he said, not necessarily against great rushing defenses. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see as they get it more into the meat of

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<v Speaker 1>their schedule. We're going to talk about a banger of

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<v Speaker 1>a game this weekend. I don't think should give us

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of a tell there, but definitely

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<v Speaker 1>something to keep an eye on for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma State. Yeah, Oklahoma State has the passing attack to

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<v Speaker 2>jump out to Leeds, but to win a four quarter game,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully you can do more than just throw the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>You can you have difference that you can play at

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<v Speaker 2>ye and I think they certainly need that. The next

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<v Speaker 2>thing is I watched every snap of Davis Warren in

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<v Speaker 2>the Michigan offense against Arkansas State. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>this season is done for in terms of Michigan, but

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<v Speaker 2>man right side of the offensive line, the center was

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<v Speaker 2>blown off the ball a bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The positive thing is I really like Kalel Mullings. I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that before. I like them even more after watching

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<v Speaker 2>every snap. Davis Warren I don't actually hate that much,

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<v Speaker 2>but he just has those decisions where like we're not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about tipped balls, we're not talking about a receiver

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<v Speaker 2>running the wrong way. He just threw it to Arkansas

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<v Speaker 2>State over and over three. I think three picks in

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<v Speaker 2>that game. Three picks in that game, yeah, Cup, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a couple in the first half and

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<v Speaker 2>then one in the second and Alex Orgy came in

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<v Speaker 2>missed a wide open man deep. I wonder, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you can't really do it on the fly. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about an offensive line that is a mixed bag

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<v Speaker 2>at best. I think Michigan playing hardball ball is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a huge mistake with the personnel on this team,

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<v Speaker 2>and the receivers might be pretty good. It's just I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's the wrong system, Like how would we know

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<v Speaker 2>with these receivers. I think they should be I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if cheesing is the right word, but leaning into

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it takes you know, you got to do it

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<v Speaker 2>in the bye week, like play a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>creative pickleball, a little bit more rpo pickleball, still running

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<v Speaker 2>slants stuff, But like, I don't know, I think Mulling's

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<v Speaker 2>and Donovan Edwards rightfully, so we're gonna get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of attention from defenses. I just I would take this game,

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<v Speaker 2>this team, in this offense away from the lap of

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line. I mean when they're running, well, they're

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<v Speaker 2>using a lot of like fullback and multiple tight ends

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. I don't know. I would say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>how much money could Dan Mullen truly need to come

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<v Speaker 2>in and be a consultant to turn this Michigan offense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd do it for free. He might just like on

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<v Speaker 2>a zoom call once a week with Dan Mullen or

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<v Speaker 2>something whoever's available. So that was my thought after watching that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you had any additional Michigan Arkansas

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<v Speaker 2>State thoughts of USC this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a Michigan State thought please for what that's worth.

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned Michigan State as a surprise three to zero

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<v Speaker 1>team on the recap show, and the opponents have been FAU.

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<v Speaker 1>They were on the road at Maryland. They won that

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<v Speaker 1>game by three. Prairie View this past weekend they shut

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<v Speaker 1>out forty to nothing. Not the toughest sleep. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>week is the week where they start to get into

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<v Speaker 1>more of the meat of that schedule. They've got Boston

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<v Speaker 1>College in their next nine games, their favored to lose

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<v Speaker 1>eight of them. This is where I think we start

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<v Speaker 1>seeing what is what is going on here. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed, though, is on the defensive side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a problem last season. They were given up

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<v Speaker 1>close to twenty nine points a game, twenty eight points

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<v Speaker 1>a game somewhere in that neighborhood. Thus far, we're three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks in. The competition hasn't been great. That number is

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<v Speaker 1>all the way down to eleven point three. So you

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<v Speaker 1>might look at that and say, ah, well, what's scoring defense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a number that can get skewed. Doesn't mean anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd say I agree with that completely. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>we don't use it generally. But then you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the per play numbers, then you look at the opponent

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<v Speaker 1>adjusted numbers. You chop out the garbage time stuff. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I will reiterate what I've been saying all season long.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to give these numbers a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to cook before you can fully trust them,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is still meaningful to look at them and

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<v Speaker 1>see where any team is ranking relative to where they

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<v Speaker 1>were a year ago. They are much much better defensively

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<v Speaker 1>with their defensive success rates, their efficiency is much higher,

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<v Speaker 1>much better against the pass. There's been a really big jump,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically in havoc rate, specifically in converting pressures into sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked about how this was a veteran unit

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. They just need a better organization, They needed

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<v Speaker 1>better numbers. Frankly, I believe we're seeing some indication that

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<v Speaker 1>things are going in a good direction. These numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to regress as they get into the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of their schedules.

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, I mean they have FAU four more times

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<v Speaker 2>this season.

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<v Speaker 1>This is probably gonna be the high water mark for

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. I don't want to be misquoted here, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think it is a positive early indicator

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<v Speaker 1>that Jonathan Smith has them better organized that Joe Rossi,

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<v Speaker 1>their new DCU they brought over from Minnesota, that they

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<v Speaker 1>are finding a way to tap into that veteran leadership

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<v Speaker 1>and just get a lot more out of them. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like maybe the plan is working to some degree.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and look, Joe Rossi speaks Big ten. You know

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<v Speaker 2>he does.

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<v Speaker 1>He does. So that's one thing that I that I

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<v Speaker 1>took away from last week that it wouldn't didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>have much of a chance to unpack. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is you or UCF. Excuse me, Okay, we can maybe

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<v Speaker 1>talk about USF on the Week four recap. I won't

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<v Speaker 1>go there yet, but UCF is three and zero. They

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<v Speaker 1>edged out TCU on the road, really good game. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a good game. Per ESPN's updated FPI, UCF has

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<v Speaker 1>now the best odds of the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I came into the season pretty high on

0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:07.040
<v Speaker 2>the nights ted rufy both standing. We both did made

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<v Speaker 2>nice adjustments in the second half. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>many points they allowed in the second half against TCU.

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<v Speaker 2>They fell down pretty big, but came back very nicely.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty percent is.

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<v Speaker 1>The likelihood that ESPN gives UCF of winning the Big Twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and that puts them ahead of k State, which is

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty five percent, Oklahoma State, about fourteen percent in Utah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is currently at ten So meaningful right now, meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>Per one set of numbers that I found, they're projected

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<v Speaker 1>to lose to Iowa State in Utah and finished ten

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<v Speaker 1>and two. But here's the thing about that of their

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<v Speaker 1>remaining nine games, seven of them project as one score contests,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's early sp plus numbers I check. Those seem

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<v Speaker 1>significantly better on both offense and defense for the Knights

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<v Speaker 1>as compared to last season. This is schedule looks workable.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been saying it for a while. Now it's workable.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got Florida in a couple of weeks. They do

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<v Speaker 1>probably an open question as to whether that's a Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Napier Florida at this point given the way things have gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep your eye on UCF because those numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>high and they are dynamic and relative to what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on elsewhere in the conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are the quarterbacks, by the way, that UCF has

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<v Speaker 2>remaining for its defense to contend with Shador Sanders, some

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<v Speaker 2>combination of Graham Mertz and DJ Lagway, your guy, Brendan

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<v Speaker 2>sorosby your guy the bore the best or yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>best of all Rocos. Is that what you're calling?

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Rocobacks a resurgent once again. Jake Rhetz, laugh byu or

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<v Speaker 2>Boy Noah Fafida, Sam Levitt, what had a nice day

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<v Speaker 2>with Texas State, whatever, Garrett Green, hopefully Cam Rising.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's good.

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.119
<v Speaker 2>That's a good called ross quarterbacks that this defense has

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<v Speaker 2>to contend with.

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 1>That's a good crop. So and this is I think

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 1>only going to further the point of you can see

0:22:56.359 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>what you want about projections. Yeah, but whether or not

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 1>UCF wins those games or loses those games, what the

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>numbers are saying is that they're going to be tight

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.360
<v Speaker 1>with all of their opponents Licen Snock from here on out,

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and that makes them a really good TV show for

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:13.200
<v Speaker 1>those agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and especially now that we have the knowledge that

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:20.159
<v Speaker 2>they'll they'll come back from twenty one point deficit or whatever. Yeah,

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 2>absolutely will. Okay, next I have well this will get

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 2>into in a moment, but like Illinois and Nebraska are

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 2>both ranked and playing Friday night Friday Night. Illinois was

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit too sloppy in that first half to

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:36.199
<v Speaker 2>make me feel incredible about Illinois COMMA ranked team. But

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 2>the duo of like that they're winning in a way

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.880
<v Speaker 2>that is strange for a Brettyloma team to me. I mean,

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I threw the ball a lot when Bilamo was at Arkansas,

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 2>but offensive line has not been good this year. The

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 2>running game has not been good this year. Luke Altmeyer

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 2>has been above average. The duel of Pat Bryant and

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Zakari Franklin has been very good. I just know how

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 2>long they're going to be ranked without an offensive line,

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 2>But good story thus far held Kansas under twenty. I

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 2>believe three picks. NC State has some issues. Man, I'm

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 2>worried about them. I kind of don't understand it either. Yeah,

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 2>it's one thing if you're just sort of average, it's

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.640
<v Speaker 2>another if it feels like week in and week out

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 2>you're on the fringes of losing to bad teams. Teams

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 2>you should not be worse Western Carolina and this one

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 2>was Louisiana Tach.

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, I'm not that down on La Tech. I

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the general like vibe of the program.

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I think that maybe headed in a good direction, but

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.919
<v Speaker 1>they've got some work to do there. If NC State's

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>nearly half as good as we expected, that shouldn't be

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:45.160
<v Speaker 1>something we're even talking about in this show.

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a standard issue. NC State should have at least

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 2>hung around for a chunk of the Tennessee game or

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 2>scored a chunk during the ten, like there should have

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 2>been something to indicate NC State is competitive. There have

0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 2>been offensive line issues, especially in the run game. Grayce

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 2>McCall left the game against Louisiana Tech injured. I think

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 2>it was like a little bit before halftime. I want

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 2>to say he even healthy, I don't. It doesn't seem

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 2>immediately like a great fit for this offense, Like he's

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 2>not great throwing a deeper ball, and so I don't

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>know where that leaves us with the Wolfpack. CJ. Bailey

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>was who came in true freshman, was Jeremiah Smith's quarterback

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 2>in high school. Big kid confirmed that he is six

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 2>to six time. He's not a five to ten that

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm claiming a six to six. He is a confirmed

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>he's on the thinner side. He's like six six buck eighty,

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 2>but looks like he could have a higher ceiling. And

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to put too much on a true freshman,

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know. They've struggled running the ball, and

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 2>that potentially opens up if they're able because they have

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 2>good receivers that maybe they just need that shot in

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the arm of somebody new under center and sort of

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 2>take the lumps that come with it. But yeah, it's

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 2>been a struggle this year in ways that I don't

0:25:58.800 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I saw coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think even people who cover NC States

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>saw it coming. I mean reading Corey Smith we had

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>on the show this summer, and there's definitely a fair

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 1>amount of confusion as to how it got here. And

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to your point on Grace and McCall, actually I'm glad

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you brought that up. I little stocked him alone situation here,

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>because I've got a kind of a spin off of

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that I'll want to take it, Carl. But it's it's

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>striking to me that there isn't a whole lot of

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>positive talk out there about Grace and McCall thus far.

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's been, and hopefully it's explained away by something else,

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>because I think he's a talented guy, but it has

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 2>not been pretty throwing the ball, you know, longer than

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 2>like eight yards? I have Arkansas's about to be such

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 2>a good TV show. Whatever happens, We'll hold that thought.

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Let's hold that thought. Let's hold that thought. I have

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 2>one more thing here.

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many leftover thoughts you have. I

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>have got one continue. I have one big one left

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to lead to something of a discussion

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 1>between you and I because we brought this up just

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>privately when we were chatting through things. I think on Saturday,

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>as we were getting ready for the recap show, I

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>went through I looked at twenty four to sevens list

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>of the top transfer quarterbacks from this previous portal cycle.

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>These lists don't mean anything. They don't They're like rankings

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>in week three. Okay, it's going to change a million

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 1>times over, but it was something to go by. This

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>was the ranking of the top transfer quarterbacks. I looked

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 1>at it, and then I filtered it out based on

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>guys who are actually starting for their teams. I think

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a really interesting discussion to try and figure out

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 1>truly who is the best transfer quarterback through three weeks

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of the season. Because right now, if you take the

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>top sixteen quarterbacks that are actually starting for their respective schools,

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>here's what it looks like if you filter that list down.

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Aiden Chiles Okay, hit or miss. So far, cam Ward's

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>been good, cam Woard's been excellent, cam Wore has been great.

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>He's probably the answer A brock Van a Griff, Yeah,

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Malik Murphy, we saw Malik Murphy throw against Northwestern that

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought left a little bit to be desired.

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Upside, but yeah, not consistent yet.

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Will Howard maybe the product of his environment, but serviceable right, has.

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Been more than serviceable right if he is excellent at

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State. The early returns indicated.

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>I was very high on Will Howard coming into the season.

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Riley Leonard's a big old right now.

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to extend grace just because of injury stuff,

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 2>but continue injury stuff.

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Good at running the football, definitely has his legs back

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>under him. Yeah, but throwing the ball that's been kind

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>of a nightmare.

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Tricky.

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>The Kwan Finn at Baylor, yeah, beat up, didn't play

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>last week now, Dylan Gabriel, who was shaky I think

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>before this past week. Yeah, dju not even going to

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>have that discussion. Your guy Kyle McCord, Oh my god, monster,

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>who also has a claim as the answer to this question.

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Will Rogers has been fine for Washington TVD is hurt,

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>probably done for the year. Brendan Soorsby at Cincinnati I

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>think has been something of a revelation at the quarterback position.

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>He's been good. Max Brozmer will wait and see at Minnesota. Yeah,

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Grayson McCall had just talked about Grace McCall and then

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Curtis Rourke, who's been incredible, excellent for Indiana. But that's

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>your top sixteen. Yeah, and so it's striking to me

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that of those guys, I can bold fase seven of

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>them and say, yeah, these guys have been pretty good.

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but no.

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>More than that.

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's very little to go on, right, Like what's

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>more impressive Dylan Gabriel against Oregon State or cam Ward

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>against Florida. And I guess that's much more of a

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 2>knock on where Florida is right now as an opponent

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 2>that their Oregon State ish with how Oregon State has

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 2>been depleted. Will Howard hasn't played anybody that's the case

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 2>against him. Tyler Shuck hasn't played anybody that's the case

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 2>against him. You didn't even bring up Shuck.

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't even bring up Shuck in that, And

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of the point, right. This is just a

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>larger conversation about do lists mean anything? Do rankings mean anything?

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Because guys that are not part of that top list.

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Jordan McLeod at Texas State has been really good. kJ

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Jefferson at UCF you just talked.

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>About you see, I think he's in that conversation for sure.

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>He should be our guy. Matt Sluka at UNLV has

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>been very very good, if not excellent, at running the football. Yeah,

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Diego Pavia something of a revelation at big Win lost

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to Georgia State this passage Georgia Eli Holstein at Pitt Hello,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>he's easily in the top five of this. I agree,

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Shuck not in that top grouping. Taylor Green not

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>in that top grouping. These are struggle against u AB,

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>struggled some against you AB, they won, And I think

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>he's He's raw still but obviously very talented. My bigger

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>point here is transfer quarterbacks are a coin flip as

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>to whether or not they're going to work. Transfer quarterbacks

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>are really difficult to rank. You can rank them in theory,

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>but when you put them in their system, you either

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>have a Grayson McCall which maybe it doesn't work, or

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you have a Curtis for work where it's working famously. Right,

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>take these lists with a grain assault, use them as

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a reference, but do not treat them as gospel, because

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>for sure, there are a lot of guys that are

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>lower on this list. Who are I think outpacing some

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of the names, some of the bigger names that were

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>much higher at the start of the season.

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, next two or three weeks, A lot of these

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>teams have big games. I don't think Oregon does, Organ's

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>on by, but cam Ward I believe has Virginia Tech.

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 2>He has USF this week, and then Virginia Tech. I believe.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't have their schedule in front of me. You know,

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>you see F schedule. We just went over pitt schedule.

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I assume is going to continue to have challenges on

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>it because the a SEC seems wide open. Again, I

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 2>don't have it in front of me. Yeah, this would

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 2>be great. And the interesting thing about this conversation too,

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 2>is with somebody like Eli Holstein or and I'm not

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>being goofy here with Kyle McCord, is they come in

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 2>with either a new coordinator or a whole new head

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 2>coach or whatever, and their presence has been the catalyst

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the the engine for change. Right. We

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen a pit offense in a couple of years.

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 2>And then Eli Holstein and cade Bell I want to say,

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>come in and Eli Holstein is like the embodiment of

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the new Pit offense, and Kyle McCord is the embodiment

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>of a much more productive Syracuse offense thus far, So

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>you know that might be a little bit more meaningful.

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Whereas like Dylan Gabriel, if Dylan Gabriel is vaguely bo Nicks,

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>that's a success story, but it's nothing new for Oregon.

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see, can't wait.

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>It is a broader point that we have made the

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years now, especially as a transfer portal

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>has become more of a presence in college football, that

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you cannot assume a big quarterback name is going to

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>equal big quarterback output. A lot of these guys I listed,

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>even if they're not necessarily in the top grouping of

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>what we have seen so far among transfers. Haven't all

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>been disasters. That's not the implication, right, They've been fine

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>in many cases. But again, you cannot assume as fact

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that somebody stepping into a new position, whether it's because

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>of the system around him or the talent around him,

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you just cannot assume that they're going to hit right away.

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>It looks like a coin flip. That's what we've been

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>saying That's what this amounts to here through three weeks

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of the year, right, that's where I'm at.

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, next, I have well I mentioned the Arkansas thing.

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Tech a nice comfortable win against ODU. They have

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Rutgers and at Miami, so there's a revenge factor against

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Rutgers from last year. By the way, another quarterback we

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:53.479
<v Speaker 2>haven't mentioned is athen caliac Manis Rutgers been solid.

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Been Okay.

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Vandy couldn't hold on against Georgia State. They had to

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>come back. They scored late. Georgia State came back with

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 2>a seventy five yard drive with a touchdown fifteen seconds

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 2>left in the game. Andy needed that to get to

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 2>a ball. Hank Brown at Auburn, Yeah, was good. It

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 2>was New Mexico. Auburn doesn't always succeed against teams from

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>New Mexico. Hank Brown, welcome to college football. Sawyer Robertson

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 2>was good right for Baylor against Air Force Bryce in

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Washington looks like he could be quite fun for Baylor.

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned Retz laugh twice now it was Wyoming, but

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 2>he looked very good. My final item, Cal ran the

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>hell out of the ball against San Diego State doesn't

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 2>have a great defense this year. No, Jada not beat up.

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Jvan Thomas, Cadarius Callaway, and Dude performances for Cal.

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>And Cal's got Florida State this week.

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the late game. That game was happening

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>as we were recording. Cal has Florida State. They make

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>up one of the eight teams that look very difficult

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>all of the sudden for Florida State.

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that we did this offseason where

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 1>we were updating our Patreon tiers out of for Bowlers

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 1>dot Com, we wanted to give that community an opportunity

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>to have more input into what we do on this

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>episode as it to look back, as it's one of

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>these things each week where we have a chance to

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>take a step back and look around college football to

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>see what's going on. So we decided we're going to

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>take a suggested topic each week and turn it into

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 1>a game. Would you like to play a game of

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>over under? Dan?

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I would love to.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's play over or under. That's our girl, Nancy back

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>from her vacation. Great introing this segment. This one comes

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to us from verbal or Kyle. Kyle says the SEC

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>needs a deeper dive because it seems like there have

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>been a lot of underwhelming showings this year. Yeah, our

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>game of over under is not what you think. Our

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>game is SEC overwhelmed or SEC underwhelmed. I've got seven

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>teams here. Oh, I want to talk through these quickly.

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>We do not need to spend ten minutes per team.

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>But these are teams that have been obviously on the radar,

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>they're in the SEC, and in some cases we haven't

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>talked a whole lot about them. So it's very simple, Dan,

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I will throw out a team name. You will tell

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>me overwhelmed, underwhelmed based on what you've seen so far. Okay,

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, easy one to start, Tennessee volunteers. Have you

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>been overwhelmed or have you been underwhelmed by?

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow? See me personally overwhelmed. Absolutely. I think that's easy,

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 2>very little to complain about.

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>If anything. I think we start with an easy one.

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma this week.

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma is my next team on the list. Okay, but

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.720
<v Speaker 1>they play this week, Yes, they play this week. Okay,

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I've been underwhelmed by Oklahoma so far. Same, I've been underwhelmed,

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think the text messages that we received from

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 1>the Oklahoma Overballerhood sort of confirmed that, and I read

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>one of those off on one of our episodes last week.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>It's striking to me that you get different answers from

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma fans as to why the vibes aren't as strong

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>as aid Hope. In some cases it's the quarterback. In

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 1>other cases it's the running game, which has not been good.

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Some cases offensive coordinator, it's a coordinator, the play calling

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>with Seth Latrell. The fact that it's been all over

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the map like that I do not take as a

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 1>good sign. Now they're home this week against Tennessee. Maybe

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 1>this is their opportunity to kind of get back on

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the straight and narrow. But it sounds like among the

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma people that listen to us, the fact that they're

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>underwhelmed is meaningful because I feel it too, and they're

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>watching the team a lot more closely than I am.

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:36.240
<v Speaker 1>So I think we're in agreement.

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 2>We're in agreement with being underwhelmed. And I think you're

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 2>right that it speaks to the state of Oklahoma that

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 2>the die hards, the people that watch every single snap

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 2>and read everything that everybody says, whatever, that nobody can

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 2>come to like a consensus top three things that are

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 2>wrong with Oklahoma that like, you would take it pretty

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 2>harshly and personally. If I said, Ty, these are the

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 2>five least favorite part arts of your face and you're like,

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, You're counting five parts of my face that

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 2>you take issue with, right, That'd be tough. So that's

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>that's where we are.

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi State, I think get a little bit of a pass,

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 1>but obviously underwhelmed after the Toledo loss.

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just a loss, it was a comfortable drubbing.

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 1>They got beat down. Their performance versus their sp plus

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>projection was negative thirty two. Yeah, negative thirty two. They

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>were twenty points worse on defense and twelve points worth

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>worse on offense. So the fact that they bottomed out

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 1>in the way that they did against Toledo, which is

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>not a great offensive team, that's very underwhelming. And this

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>is a rebuilding situation. They're not gonna be good this year.

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>They're never gonna be good this year, but that one,

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that one left a mark for me. If I'm being real,

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say underwhelmed solely based on that game.

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 2>This is the Nick Saban Louisiana Monroe moment for Jeff

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Levy and Mississippi State. Yeah, Mississippi State underwhelming so far,

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 2>but obviously given the last you know, eighteen months or

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 2>so for Mississippi State, willing to extend some grace, but

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Toledo shouldn't be included in that grace blanket, probably in

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 2>this moment. But yeah, it's been a full roster turnover.

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Continue Texas A and M Dan Texas A and M

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I've been pleasantly slightly overwhelmed by to open your season

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 2>against a noted AIM team and show a good amount

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>of fight, especially on defense. I'm not going to say

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 2>that I'm fully overwhelmed by them even after the Florida game,

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 2>just because I think quarterback questions kind of persist, like

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 2>where they're going to be long term in terms of

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Connor Wegman's health, and you know, the upside of Marcel

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.439
<v Speaker 2>Reed is obvious, but I don't know. We're what two

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 2>three games into the mic Elco Era, I would say,

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm yeah, it's a it's not a full gust of overwhelming,

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 2>but it's a gentle overwhelming breeze.

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 1>TI. I was impressed by what they did on the

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>road against Florida this past week and that's not to

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 1>say that Florida is any kind of great team. We

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>were both on Florida though they were at home. They

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>were a four point dog.

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I let my DJ Lagway emotions get the best of me,

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 2>and that happens.

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I tried to filter those out, and I still liked

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Florida's chances in that game. Okay, but A and M just

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.439
<v Speaker 1>sort of blow them out. It really wasn't really wasn't

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a close game.

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, feisty defense. I like them.

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm slightly overwhelmed as well. Yeah, I think

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm in agreement with you. Where do you stand on Auburn?

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I am underwhelmed by Auburn in this moment? Are you

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 1>underwhelmed by Auburn the version that had Peyton Thorn? And

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel better now about Hank Brown?

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 2>No? Because it's New Mexico, I don't care. T Mac

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 2>had seven hundred and eighteen yards against New Mexico in

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Week one. I don't know what we consider all due

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 2>respect to Bronco, Mendenhull and the Lobos, I just don't

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 2>know what we can consider a performance against New Mexico

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>to be because they played a Cal team that I

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.399
<v Speaker 2>think has some fight in them, but I don't think

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna win nine or ten games. I think there's

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 2>still gonna be a bowl ish team Cal and if

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>they're going with Hank Brown the rest of the way, Okay,

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm intrigued. I'm definitely intrigued by a Hank Brown Auburn

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 2>team in ways that I wasn't with Peyton Thorn. But

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 2>paint Thorn is also like laid the lumber against terrible teams.

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I'm still a little bit underwhelmed

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:40.320
<v Speaker 2>because that Cal game at home was an opportunity to say,

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 2>here is the two point zero version of Hugh Freeze's Auburn,

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 2>and you know it's Hugh Freeze. I saw some stories.

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I think they was sort of taken out of context,

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 2>a little bit like throwing players under the bus and

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 2>said the coaches called a near perfect game against Cal.

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the full context was there, but I

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know. At home against that team like that was

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 2>a nice opportunity to show up the progress that we

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.240
<v Speaker 2>had been hoping to see from Auburn.

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 1>What strikes me about Auburn stop me when you get

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 1>to a game here on the schedule, I'm ready that

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>feels like a gimmey win. Okay, a team that you

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.439
<v Speaker 1>look at and you say, yeah, Auburn is definitely better

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>than that team. This week Arkansas. I don't think you

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>can say that about Arkansas.

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 2>He said it's Arkansas at home.

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas at home. Okay, Next week Oklahoma at home. Definitely

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>not a gimme.

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:29.919
<v Speaker 2>Not a gimme.

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Week six on the road at Georgia, definitely.

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Not not a gimme.

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>They're on by week seven, maybe that's the answer. But

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the gate on the road at Missoo, definitely not a gimme.

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Week nine on the road at Kentucky. Kentucky didn't look great,

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>but I still don't think that's a gimme. Right, And

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>then week ten the answers Vanderbilt, I don't think it's

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 1>a gimme.

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 2>And then maybe it's after what is not against Diego

0:42:58.200 --> 0:42:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Pavia other than lose.

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe then it's week twelve after another buye against Louisiana Monroe.

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing with Auburn, it's not a question of

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 2>gimme or not a gimme. It's sort of a squint question.

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Can you squint and see wins against dot dot dot?

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Because that's what you're doing right now. With Auburn's offense.

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I could see wins against Arkansas. That's doable. Yeah, I

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're beating Oklahoma. They're not beating Georgia. I

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.319
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're beating Massoo. I could squint and see

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 2>a win against Kentucky if we get the version of

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky we saw last week. Sure, and certainly against Vanderbilt.

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>But either way, they've already got a loss on the schedule,

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and if you count Oklahoma, Georgia and MISSOO, that's three more.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>They've also got a game late against Alabama that is

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a rivalry. But I think Bama looks head.

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>And shoulders above I mean, they were a free play

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 2>from winning that game last year, but yeah, last year

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 2>they were.

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.280
<v Speaker 1>But I think Bama looks head and shoulders above Auburn

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>at this point. That game is at Brian Denny this year,

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the A and M later in the year. I don't

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>know what version of A and M we're gonna get.

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So this looks like a five lost team to me.

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and look at the teams are going to stack

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 2>the box against Jarquess Hunter and they're going to force

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:17.280
<v Speaker 2>whoever's that quarterback to beat them, And so now you're saying, Okay,

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 2>what is the evolution what is the development of again

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Peyton Thorne or Hank Brown look like against these teams

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 2>who have now who are now going to start looking

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 2>at Auburn and saying, like, oh man, our schedule is

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 2>really tough, but like we've circled the Auburn game as

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity because we know that their offense is kind

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 2>of shaky at times, so they're gonna be getting a

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:36.839
<v Speaker 2>lot of best shots too.

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Last two teams are Arkansas and Missou. Underwhelmed, overwhelmed.

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just whelmed by Arkansas in this moment, if that's okay, Okay,

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the way that they fell down to

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 2>UAB obviously in a letdown situation after Oklahoma State. I

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 2>believe for the week before and that overt time loss.

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I still need to see, like I'm very much overwhelmed

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 2>by Arkansas on the ground. I'm very much overwhelmed by

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Arkansas on defense at times like looking improved. I don't know.

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 2>The passing game, to me is still a pretty big

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.839
<v Speaker 2>element of all of this with Arkansas feelings, and I'm

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 2>not there yet I like, you know, Andrew Armstrong so

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 2>a solid receiver. I don't think he's a star, an

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 2>SEC star receiver. But I'm still a little bit whelmed

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 2>after that UAB game.

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm overwhelmed by Arkansas, Okay, And you could

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.479
<v Speaker 1>probably pick that up from the timber in my voice

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 1>whenever I talk about the Razorbacks this year. Maybe I'm

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>too focused on Taylor Green. I just think he's crazy

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.800
<v Speaker 1>talented and he's not a finished product. There is definitely

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a rawness to his game at this point that if

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you're an Arkansas fan, you know your heart's in your

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>throat more often than not, knowing this guy's got a

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 1>big mistake in a more an incredible brill. It's kind

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of one or the other. Their postgame win expectancy in

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 1>that Oklahoma Steak game, the one that they lost in overtime,

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>they gave it away. Yeah eighty six percent, Yeah eighty

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 1>six percent. So they played well enough to beat So

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't that welm you a little? Welm? I mean I'm

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:15.839
<v Speaker 1>saying I'm overwhelmed.

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 2>No, I know, I'm saying wellem is like, bring them

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 2>back to like average whelming, not over or under.

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Between between what the defense looked like against UAB and

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.240
<v Speaker 1>how they lost at Oklahoma Steak Game. Yeah, it definitely

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>brings them back down to earth. But I the general

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 1>sentiment here is I feel better about them than it

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 1>did in the preseason.

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 2>At Auburn A and M at Jerry World, I believe,

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 2>and Tennessee at home are the next three.

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.359
<v Speaker 1>It's not just those games. They've got LSU, They've got all.

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying short term.

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got Texas, they got Miszoo still in the schedule.

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a brutal schedule. Yeah, absolutely brutal.

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Feels like you need a passing game.

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Feels like you need a passing game. So far, so far,

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been good with Arkansas, and then the

0:46:58.880 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>last one's mis Zoo.

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say overwhelmed, slightly overwhelmed. They took care

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 2>of business against nobody in particular those first couple weeks.

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 2>They want a clunker against BC. I'm willing to extend

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a certain amount of grace to Missoo given the step

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:24.320
<v Speaker 2>forward they took last year. I don't know, they adjusted

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 2>really well defensively to Castellanos and BC. So that's something

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It didn't feel like these two teams

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 2>were competitive in the second half of a game, which

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 2>seems important. So yeah, I'm slightly overwhelmed by Miszoo. Like

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's Corey batun Is, the new from South

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Alabama defensive coordinator from Miszoo that I did a really

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 2>nice job adjusting. We Still I would be more whelmed.

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I would have more overwhelming whelming. I don't know. I

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>want to see more fun Luther Burden down the field,

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.919
<v Speaker 2>Like I want to see kind of a video game

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 2>element to Miszoo that we haven't really seen thus far.

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Of their remaining game. So the remaining nine games, there's

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 1>only one projected loss here that's on the road to Alabama.

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:06.879
<v Speaker 1>It's such a great schedule, but it is a really

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>good schedule.

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 2>For an SEC team.

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a very favorable schedule. So do they

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 1>miss well, they I mentioned they played Bama, right, but

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to play Georgia. They don't have to

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>play Tennessee. Where's the Bama game. Bama game is in

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Bryan Denny, so that's tough. Okay, they do not have

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to play teams like LSU. Texas is not on this

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Texas not on the schedule. It's seemingly the best teams

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>in the SEC are not in the schedule. Yeah, with

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Thelemel right, Noel miss.

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Noel Miss, no Georgia, no Texas. That's great.

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I am about where I expected with Miszoo. Okay,

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 1>is where I'm at. But game against Vandy this week

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 1>before bye and then on the road at A and

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:56.399
<v Speaker 1>M Kyle Field, that'll be an interesting matchup. We'll see.

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 2>You know who they do have. They do have the

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Creator on the road, right, Lenoris. Yeah, they do have

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Lenora sellers in It's not in Miszoo. It's not in Columbia.

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's Columbia, Columbia. It's in Colombia. It's just

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the other Columbia.

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Correct, Yeah, okay, correct, all the way out into middle

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 1>of November week twelveth.

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a great schedule. It's such a good schedule.

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Right in so Verbo at gmail dot com or hit

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>us up on social media, leave a comment if you

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 1>can leave a comment somewhere on this podcast, let us

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>know where you agree, disagree, are indifferent. But thanks to

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Kyle for sending in that SEC question. He says a

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of underwhelming showings this year. We'll see how right

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>we are about some of these teams as we get

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit deeper into this campaign, Dan, Great, where

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:47.320
<v Speaker 1>are we going next? Last, but certainly not least, let's

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:52.959
<v Speaker 1>do a little bit of a look ahead for the week.

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>There are three games of note on Thursday and Friday

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that we need to discuss here. We've been doing these

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:04.839
<v Speaker 1>previews a few days early because, as they said an

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 1>episode or two ago, typically when we would do the

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>previews for these games as part of the Wednesday or

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Thursday preview episode, we'd have to stack it all the

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 1>way at the back end of the show because we

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't want the first thing you heard to go stale

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>within twenty four hours. So now we finally it took

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>us seventeen years whatever the hell it's been of doing

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:27.200
<v Speaker 1>this show to figure out, oh, may we should just

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about these games earlier. Yeah, so we're talking about

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 1>them earlier. Doing on Tuesday this year. This is kind

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of like our Early Bird special Friday eight pm on Fox.

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.920
<v Speaker 1>It is a ranked contest between number twenty four Illinois

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and now number twenty two Nebraska. The vibes are strong

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 1>at Nebraska then right now they are very strong. They

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 1>are a nine point favorite in this one. I take

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>what you said about Illinois and I commit that to memory.

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I look at this game, though, and I say, oh, man,

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and this is going to be a rock fight. This

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 1>looks like a rock fight to me, where yeah, Dilan

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 1>Royola looks a little bit more mortal. The Illinois pass

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:12.879
<v Speaker 1>defense is significantly better this year than they were last year,

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 1>and I think better than anything Royola has seen so far.

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 1>So even if he doesn't go out there and look

0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:21.839
<v Speaker 1>like he's out of his depth, I still expect less

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>emphasis on the pass and more on the run, because

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that's where Illinois is gettable. You want to run against

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Illinois if you can.

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 1>That was the concern coming into the year. The stats,

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 1>for whatever they're worth at this point through three weeks

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of the year, also support that that's a bit of

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>an issue.

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying rock fight. I think we're talking about field

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>position and time of possession and turnovers and all the

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 1>big stuff in the Upper Midwest that makes the Big

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>ten the Big ten. Mm HM twenty to thirteen Nebraska.

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm going points here, taking Illinois plus the points, but

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 1>illinoid to ultimately succumbed to Nebraska on the road.

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.120
<v Speaker 2>How's the weather going to be in Lincoln, Nebraska? In

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.240
<v Speaker 2>check the weather, hot Ty, It's Friday night.

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Friday night, eight pm on Fox.

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:08.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing a high of ninety degrees, I think in Nebraska.

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that changes anything for you. You know,

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I was searching for reasons to take those points, and

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I think you're you're not wrong when you talk about

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.439
<v Speaker 2>it being a struggle at times and field position and

0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:24.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, lunging for a first down marker on thirty

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:26.799
<v Speaker 2>three or something like that, that you know every yard

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 2>is going to be difficult. I think Illinois might be

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 2>one of our first LRO teams of the season that

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 2>first half against Central Michigan. I like the win against Kansas.

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I do Kansas just also lost to UNLV, did they not?

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:40.880
<v Speaker 1>They did?

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Am I correct? And that result, so we kind of

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 2>have to downgrade the importance of Illinois's win in that moment.

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I am a believer in Luke Altmeyer's development and those receivers.

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 2>There was a great clip of I think it was

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Pat Bryant blocking his ass off against CMU on a

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 2>long run. I love seeing stuff like that. That's what

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 2>makes me upgrade a team. But I think this is

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 2>just a bad matchup. We saw Nebraska's defensive line was

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 2>able to do against Colorado's offensive line and really put

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Doris Sanders in a bind. So I just Nebraska's at home.

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 2>They haven't played a road game, I don't believe yet.

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 2>So there is a certain amount of comfort the Nebraska's

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:15.879
<v Speaker 2>feeling right now. It's been an easy path thus far.

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Illinois will be more difficult. But ultimately I'm going to

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:22.840
<v Speaker 2>say something like twenty seven to seventeen, and Nebraska covers

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:23.720
<v Speaker 2>barely covers.

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll be right around that number. No, I think

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that's fair to say. I've got it at seven, You've

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:28.640
<v Speaker 1>got it at ten.

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Also on Friday Night, let's talk about the f animal

0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 1>coming out of hibernation with the Bible. Seven point thirty

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 1>on ESPN, Stanford versus Syracuse, a classic ACC rivalry, damnastic.

0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Stanford now begins a run of Syracuse, Clemson, Virginia Tech,

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and Notre Dame on four straight weeks. Not feel good

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 1>for the Cardinal.

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I looked at this game. I did a brief, brief

0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:58.799
<v Speaker 1>look at the numbers and the stat profiles, for both

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>these teams, and I just feel like Syracuse is way better.

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:06.400
<v Speaker 1>They're at home, it's Friday night, good bit of travel

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 1>for a Stanford team that I'm not crazy high on.

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:11.759
<v Speaker 1>They're still rebuilding, right, this is a game I think

0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:12.879
<v Speaker 1>that Syracuse should cover.

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:18.320
<v Speaker 2>No, I think so. I mean, Syracuse hasn't been fully

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:20.759
<v Speaker 2>tested yet as much as we like to have fun

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:22.400
<v Speaker 2>with it. And I don't think Stanford is going to

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:24.240
<v Speaker 2>offer that, but just in terms of what we believe

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Syracuse to be or not be. But I don't know.

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:29.799
<v Speaker 2>The Stanford defense I still think has a ways to go.

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 2>There's interesting players on this Stanford offense, though, like I think,

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know. I still think they're behind.

0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:37.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go again.

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.520
<v Speaker 1>The number is, the number is nine and a half.

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm gonna take. I think I'm gonna take

0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Qu's here.

0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like we have to.

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take Youse and I feel good about it.

0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 2>And again it this is what my grandfather told me,

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:56.600
<v Speaker 2>his father told me the father before that it's not

0:54:56.920 --> 0:55:01.560
<v Speaker 2>truly the fall, it's not truly called football season until

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 2>we see that Stanford Syracuse ACC matchup.

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I know so I know here we are. It will

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.719
<v Speaker 1>be written into the record books forever more. Yeah, the

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 1>classic ACC matchup between these two schools and last, but

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 1>certainly not least, GE five game. Talked about South Alabama

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:23.319
<v Speaker 1>putting up eighty seven points last week. Yep, this one's

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:27.399
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday on ESPN. South Alabama going on the road

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to boone square off against app State. App States about

0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>an eight point favorite.

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:36.879
<v Speaker 2>Week after an emotional comeback win.

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes there should be points in this game. Yes, there

0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:43.920
<v Speaker 1>should be points in this game because I don't know

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I really trust either defense, so I think it's very

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:54.400
<v Speaker 1>beneficial looking at this one for app State and Joey Aguiar,

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to put up a ton of

0:55:56.960 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>yardage through the air, but I also don't know if

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 1>they can get take in South alabamacause I don't know

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 1>if they trust their defense either. So I'm long way

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>of saying, give me Upstate minus the number. It's forty

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 1>two to twenty eight, a bunch of points somewhere in

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that range. A fun Thursday night game if you're in

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:12.319
<v Speaker 1>the market for one.

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's you know, a South Alabama Jaguar team

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 2>that had to sort of start very late. It's major

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.759
<v Speaker 2>ap away right correct at South Alabama, and so they

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 2>lose you know, Kane Wamick to Alabama a little bit

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 2>late in the process. So you know, I still think

0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 2>there's an adjustment period with South Alabama. I think I'm

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna give those points as well. The short week road thing,

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 2>it's it's kind of nice to pick against that team.

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 2>If we believe in app State as a quality team,

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give the points.

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:41.879
<v Speaker 1>So the schedule for the week ahead, just in terms

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:42.960
<v Speaker 1>of the solid verbal.

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a fun one, this skit for us and for

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:46.000
<v Speaker 2>week four in general.

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what what it looks like for us is we

0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:52.839
<v Speaker 1>dropped the recap episodes midnight on Saturdays. But before we

0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:56.360
<v Speaker 1>get to that point, we got the preview episode that

0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:59.839
<v Speaker 1>drops to the feed on Thursday. We've got Big ten Break,

0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 1>which has been going really well and is a ton

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:04.800
<v Speaker 1>of fun, that drops to our YouTube channel on Friday

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:08.440
<v Speaker 1>nine am is when you could watch that. But bigger picture,

0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:11.319
<v Speaker 1>just in terms of the verbowler hood, Dan week four

0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:14.880
<v Speaker 1>definitely better than Week three, and there are a handful

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:16.880
<v Speaker 1>of matchups that I think we bubble to the surface

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:19.640
<v Speaker 1>here and look at and say Yeah, these are games

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that are going to tell us a lot about the

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 1>teams involved. We've got NC State at Clemson. Clemson's a

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:28.040
<v Speaker 1>heavy favorite in that game by seventeen. Yeah, but we

0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 1>will definitely know a lot more about NC State on

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the back side of this one. You mentioned USC at

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Michigan before USC right now time of recording, we're doing

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>this recording Monday afternoon, five and a half point road

0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 1>favorite in the Big House four PM on Fox A

0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Big twelve showdown between Utah and Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State

0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 1>favored by two and a half points? Is Cam rising

0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:55.240
<v Speaker 1>back for that one? Is that the assumption? I hope?

0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 2>So what do you say? That number? Is the Utah

0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:57.960
<v Speaker 2>game two and a half.

0:57:57.720 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 1>In favor of Oklahoma State and they're at home.

0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Which, by the way, the USC game up to a

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 2>six and a half six and a half now at

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:04.959
<v Speaker 2>some books in this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So we got the Utah Oklahoma State game, which

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>is going to be very significant for the Big twelve season,

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and then Tennessee at Oklahoma.

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:15.440
<v Speaker 2>You have this down Oklahoma minus seven on the document,

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 2>which gave me a second.

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I think I meant to put plus seven. It's Tennessee

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 1>minus seven, Oklahoma plus seven at home Okay seven thirty

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 1>on ABC.

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma has a moment to show that it can grow.

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Now Tennessee has a moment because they've already proven it

0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:33.200
<v Speaker 2>against NC State. I don't know this is I hope

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 2>it's not ugly, that's all I am pointing to. I

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:38.240
<v Speaker 2>hope Oklahoma is able to Maybe it was a look

0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 2>ahead spot against Tulane, but I kind of doubt it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope for Oklahoma that we get something new

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 2>from this offense.

0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 1>And very quickly. Just some other matchups that I think

0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:53.080
<v Speaker 1>are interesting and meaningful. Florida is only a four and

0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a half point road favored against Mississippi State, which says

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about where the book makers have Florida right now.

0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:06.919
<v Speaker 1>That number should be bigger given the state of Mississippi State.

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.480
<v Speaker 1>The fact that it isn't is I think pretty damning

0:59:10.480 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 1>for billion Napier. I agree they lose this game, they

0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 1>go into a bye week after this. If they lose

0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:18.760
<v Speaker 1>this game, it's over.

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I think.

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 1>So it may already be over.

0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:24.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, given the context of Mississippi State losing to Toledo,

0:59:24.120 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you can't lose to the team that lost to the

0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:32.400
<v Speaker 2>team right in that case Toledo. So I think vibes

0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 2>are down bad.

0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Vibes are really bad. And like I said, it may

0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>already be over for Napier right, but certainly if they

0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 1>don't win that game, that would be very problematic.

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:45.640
<v Speaker 2>We should after this show record a Billy Napier has

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 2>been let go just so we can get at the

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:49.080
<v Speaker 2>algorithm like that tie.

0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's probably the first one to go, not an

0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:55.800
<v Speaker 1>if this season. We also have Auburn at Arkansaw. We

0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:58.400
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that one before. That'll be interesting. Yeah, three point

0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:01.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty on the ACC network, rock right now, getting four

1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and a half on the road A Virginia Tech. That

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<v Speaker 1>might be my lock of the year right now. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Virginia Tech's that good. I was real

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<v Speaker 1>high in Virginia Tech, mostly as a byproduct of Kiren

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<v Speaker 1>drones in the schedule, and so far, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>have underwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 2>But doesn't Virginia Tech potentially fall into their not who

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<v Speaker 2>they are in their worst day, They're not who they

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<v Speaker 2>are on their best day.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, I just haven't been overwhelmed by

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<v Speaker 1>any of their first couple showings so far. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're not good. Okay, so I'm already in

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<v Speaker 1>at Rutgers plus five and a half. That numbers already

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<v Speaker 1>come down. Wouldn't surprise me if it continued going down.

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<v Speaker 1>What else we got here? We got Miami, Ohio at

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame another MAC game. Oh god, we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens there.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, Notre Dame has been nothing if not competitive against

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<v Speaker 2>the Mac this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, thank you now. Georgia Tech at Louisville should be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Should tell us a lot about Louisville. I desperately wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk more about Louisville as part of this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not feel we had much to go on.

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<v Speaker 1>They've only played two games, so Georgia Tech can score.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what the defense looks like for Louisville at home.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what Tyler Shuck looks like against Georgia Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be a meaningful game, I think, just to help

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<v Speaker 1>us suss out where the ACC's at. The Skillet game

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<v Speaker 1>TCU minus two and a half at SMU. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really heavy on TCU there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, coming off of a kind of an ugly gack

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<v Speaker 2>against UCF. But Kevin Jennings new quarterback, full time starter

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<v Speaker 2>at SMU rivalry game on the CW. That's how I

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<v Speaker 2>been calling.

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<v Speaker 1>That one, I believe, So five pm. And then just

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<v Speaker 1>to round things out very quickly, some other games, just

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<v Speaker 1>to be mindful of, we'll preview a bunch of these

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<v Speaker 1>on the Thursday show. I'm ready. Iowa at Minnesota's the

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<v Speaker 1>seven thirty NBC game on Saturday night, Great Miami at

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<v Speaker 1>USF at seven pm, m Spicy, Spicy. We called this

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<v Speaker 1>game out many moons ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan State at Boston College. I put it on here

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<v Speaker 1>just because I talked a lot about Michigan State eight

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<v Speaker 1>and Boston College is interesting. Yeah, Michigan State at Boston College,

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<v Speaker 1>Baylor at Colorado. It's only about a one point spread

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<v Speaker 1>something like that in favor of Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's another Sawyer Robertson game, I believe for Baylor. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and Cal at Florida State. Florida State favored by one

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<v Speaker 2>and a half points.

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<v Speaker 1>Who at home at home?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Cal's already gone to Auburn, yeah, and won

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<v Speaker 2>it like it would so Florida State's favored.

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<v Speaker 1>You said one and a half points? Is the is

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<v Speaker 1>the line right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, here's what you do need to know for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it means. Last year, I believe DJU absolutely lit

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<v Speaker 2>up Cal at Oregon State at Oregon State, different coach,

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<v Speaker 2>different team, different everything. So I don't know, maybe there's

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<v Speaker 2>something there. But if you're talking about a quarterback who

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<v Speaker 2>has struggled for a team whose vibes are down, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the last people i'd like game planning against my

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<v Speaker 2>team with Justin Wilcox, who just throws ghosts into defense

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<v Speaker 2>at his best throws a lot of ghosts into those

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<v Speaker 2>passing lanes. The other game here that I'll call out

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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll call it a show, please, Bowling Green

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<v Speaker 2>at Texas A and m Okay, So, Bowling Green fought.

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State in Beaver Stadium. M hmm, only lost that one,

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<v Speaker 1>I think by a touchdown. Bowling Green was a team

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<v Speaker 1>I called out in the preseason when he did the

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<v Speaker 1>MAC preview. I think Bowling States or Bowling Green, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty good team. That's not to say they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go into Kyle Field and win. I do

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<v Speaker 1>think they'll fight. The point spread, right, how is twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two points? I would probably air on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>Bowling Green, even though it's in Kyle Field, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not particularly a look ahead situation for a team like

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<v Speaker 1>Texas A and M who got Arkansas the following week.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's kind of a sandwich situation though, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it kind of is right. It's not a full

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<v Speaker 1>blown look ahead or let down, but it's it's innocuous

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<v Speaker 1>looking enough that you could definitely construct an argument for

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<v Speaker 1>a fourteen point Texas A and.

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<v Speaker 2>M way right a cover right. I think Mike Elcho

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<v Speaker 2>is too good a coach, and there's too much on

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<v Speaker 2>this A and M team to feel a big threat,

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<v Speaker 2>especially after Bowling Green gave Penn State all it could

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<v Speaker 2>handle for two or three quarters. Yep, so or the

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<v Speaker 2>entire game? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>So, is something right, something to keep your eye on. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>as we talk about those late games that maybe get

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<v Speaker 1>lost in the shuffle, we probably won't have time to

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<v Speaker 1>do the full preview of that one. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Just just bear that game in mind, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Bearing it in mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Tie? That is all I have, boys and girls?

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<v Speaker 2>So what's your answer for my original question?

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<v Speaker 1>Then? What's what was the original question?

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<v Speaker 2>What leftover food is actually better left over than fresh?

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<v Speaker 1>Pad tie is really good leftover.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do cold or do you reheat it? I do

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<v Speaker 2>the reheat. There are some elements of cold, like Thai food,

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese food that is so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I would pad Thai comes to mind first. I would

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<v Speaker 1>also say that reheated chili, Yeah, it's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Give that those flavors time to mix around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, depending how you reheat the pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>No, pizza is not one hundred and answer at all,

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<v Speaker 2>but can I respect you? It's all the same.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do it in the oven, it can be

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<v Speaker 1>just as good the day after. I think it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of your worst takes ever. Okay, it's fine, it's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay. You disagree for different people. Yeah, I had

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<v Speaker 1>another thought. I'm blanking. What's your well?

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned brownies right, like they're a pan of hot

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<v Speaker 2>brownies is delicious. Of course, brownies are better cold. They're

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<v Speaker 2>way better cold. You give well, I'm saying they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>delicious all the same, Like they're still good, but you

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<v Speaker 2>give them. I don't know where you store your brownies

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<v Speaker 2>of whether it's like a tupperware or you just put

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, a thing of foil over the pan

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<v Speaker 2>and set it aside or put it in a cold oven.

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<v Speaker 2>However you store your your left like it's so much

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<v Speaker 2>better that next day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's not even cool. I put him in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Chili, I think is probably like the Apex answer here,

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<v Speaker 2>chili's great warmed up. Well, I'm not even saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying it's so much better when it has

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<v Speaker 2>time to sit even longer. So yeah, I agree, that's

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<v Speaker 2>my answer. I love a good like second third day chili.

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