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Speaker 1: How about that? I think it's entirely possible. And you're right.

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Speaker 1: This is that show where we go back through the

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Speaker 1: That's what we're out here to try and decipher on

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Speaker 1: If you've been here a while now, I would ask

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Speaker 1: Per one set of numbers that I found, they're projected

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Speaker 1: to lose to Iowa State in Utah and finished ten

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Speaker 1: and two. But here's the thing about that of their

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Speaker 1: remaining nine games, seven of them project as one score contests,

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Speaker 1: So it's early sp plus numbers I check. Those seem

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Speaker 1: significantly better on both offense and defense for the Knights

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Speaker 1: as compared to last season. This is schedule looks workable.

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Speaker 1: We've been saying it for a while. Now it's workable.

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Speaker 1: They've got Florida in a couple of weeks. They do

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Speaker 1: probably an open question as to whether that's a Billy

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Speaker 1: Napier Florida at this point given the way things have gone.

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Speaker 1: Just keep your eye on UCF because those numbers are

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Speaker 1: high and they are dynamic and relative to what's going

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Speaker 1: on elsewhere in the conference.

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Speaker 2: Here are the quarterbacks, by the way, that UCF has

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Speaker 2: remaining for its defense to contend with Shador Sanders, some

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Speaker 2: combination of Graham Mertz and DJ Lagway, your guy, Brendan

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Speaker 2: sorosby your guy the bore the best or yeah, the

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Speaker 2: best of all Rocos. Is that what you're calling?

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Speaker 1: That's correct?

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Speaker 2: Rocobacks a resurgent once again. Jake Rhetz, laugh byu or

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Speaker 2: Boy Noah Fafida, Sam Levitt, what had a nice day

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Speaker 2: with Texas State, whatever, Garrett Green, hopefully Cam Rising.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 2: That's a good called ross quarterbacks that this defense has

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Speaker 2: to contend with.

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Speaker 1: That's a good crop. So and this is I think

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Speaker 1: only going to further the point of you can see

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Speaker 1: what you want about projections. Yeah, but whether or not

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Speaker 1: UCF wins those games or loses those games, what the

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Speaker 1: numbers are saying is that they're going to be tight

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Speaker 1: with all of their opponents Licen Snock from here on out,

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Speaker 1: and that makes them a really good TV show for

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Speaker 1: those agree.

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Speaker 2: Well, and especially now that we have the knowledge that

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Speaker 2: they'll they'll come back from twenty one point deficit or whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: absolutely will. Okay, next I have well this will get

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Speaker 2: into in a moment, but like Illinois and Nebraska are

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Speaker 2: both ranked and playing Friday night Friday Night. Illinois was

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Speaker 2: a little bit too sloppy in that first half to

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Speaker 2: make me feel incredible about Illinois COMMA ranked team. But

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Speaker 2: the duo of like that they're winning in a way

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Speaker 2: that is strange for a Brettyloma team to me. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I threw the ball a lot when Bilamo was at Arkansas,

478
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Speaker 2: but offensive line has not been good this year. The

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Speaker 2: running game has not been good this year. Luke Altmeyer

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Speaker 2: has been above average. The duel of Pat Bryant and

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Speaker 2: Zakari Franklin has been very good. I just know how

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Speaker 2: long they're going to be ranked without an offensive line,

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Speaker 2: But good story thus far held Kansas under twenty. I

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Speaker 2: believe three picks. NC State has some issues. Man, I'm

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Speaker 2: worried about them. I kind of don't understand it either. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's one thing if you're just sort of average, it's

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Speaker 2: another if it feels like week in and week out

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Speaker 2: you're on the fringes of losing to bad teams. Teams

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Speaker 2: you should not be worse Western Carolina and this one

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Speaker 2: was Louisiana Tach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I'm not that down on La Tech. I

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Speaker 1: kind of like the general like vibe of the program.

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Speaker 1: I think that maybe headed in a good direction, but

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Speaker 1: they've got some work to do there. If NC State's

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Speaker 1: nearly half as good as we expected, that shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: something we're even talking about in this show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a standard issue. NC State should have at least

498
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Speaker 2: hung around for a chunk of the Tennessee game or

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Speaker 2: scored a chunk during the ten, like there should have

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Speaker 2: been something to indicate NC State is competitive. There have

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Speaker 2: been offensive line issues, especially in the run game. Grayce

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Speaker 2: McCall left the game against Louisiana Tech injured. I think

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Speaker 2: it was like a little bit before halftime. I want

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Speaker 2: to say he even healthy, I don't. It doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: immediately like a great fit for this offense, Like he's

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Speaker 2: not great throwing a deeper ball, and so I don't

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Speaker 2: know where that leaves us with the Wolfpack. CJ. Bailey

508
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Speaker 2: was who came in true freshman, was Jeremiah Smith's quarterback

509
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Speaker 2: in high school. Big kid confirmed that he is six

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Speaker 2: to six time. He's not a five to ten that

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Speaker 2: I'm claiming a six to six. He is a confirmed

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Speaker 2: he's on the thinner side. He's like six six buck eighty,

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Speaker 2: but looks like he could have a higher ceiling. And

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Speaker 2: you don't want to put too much on a true freshman,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. They've struggled running the ball, and

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Speaker 2: that potentially opens up if they're able because they have

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Speaker 2: good receivers that maybe they just need that shot in

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Speaker 2: the arm of somebody new under center and sort of

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Speaker 2: take the lumps that come with it. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: been a struggle this year in ways that I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't think I saw coming.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think even people who cover NC States

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Speaker 1: saw it coming. I mean reading Corey Smith we had

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Speaker 1: on the show this summer, and there's definitely a fair

525
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Speaker 1: amount of confusion as to how it got here. And

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Speaker 1: to your point on Grace and McCall, actually I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you brought that up. I little stocked him alone situation here,

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Speaker 1: because I've got a kind of a spin off of

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Speaker 1: that I'll want to take it, Carl. But it's it's

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Speaker 1: striking to me that there isn't a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: positive talk out there about Grace and McCall thus far.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's been, and hopefully it's explained away by something else,

533
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Speaker 2: because I think he's a talented guy, but it has

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Speaker 2: not been pretty throwing the ball, you know, longer than

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Speaker 2: like eight yards? I have Arkansas's about to be such

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Speaker 2: a good TV show. Whatever happens, We'll hold that thought.

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Speaker 2: Let's hold that thought. Let's hold that thought. I have

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Speaker 2: one more thing here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many leftover thoughts you have. I

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Speaker 1: have got one continue. I have one big one left

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to lead to something of a discussion

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Speaker 1: between you and I because we brought this up just

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Speaker 1: privately when we were chatting through things. I think on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: as we were getting ready for the recap show, I

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Speaker 1: went through I looked at twenty four to sevens list

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Speaker 1: of the top transfer quarterbacks from this previous portal cycle.

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Speaker 1: These lists don't mean anything. They don't They're like rankings

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Speaker 1: in week three. Okay, it's going to change a million

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Speaker 1: times over, but it was something to go by. This

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Speaker 1: was the ranking of the top transfer quarterbacks. I looked

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Speaker 1: at it, and then I filtered it out based on

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Speaker 1: guys who are actually starting for their teams. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a really interesting discussion to try and figure out

554
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Speaker 1: truly who is the best transfer quarterback through three weeks

555
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Speaker 1: of the season. Because right now, if you take the

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Speaker 1: top sixteen quarterbacks that are actually starting for their respective schools,

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Speaker 1: here's what it looks like if you filter that list down.

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Speaker 1: Aiden Chiles Okay, hit or miss. So far, cam Ward's

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Speaker 1: been good, cam Woard's been excellent, cam Wore has been great.

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Speaker 1: He's probably the answer A brock Van a Griff, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Malik Murphy, we saw Malik Murphy throw against Northwestern that

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Speaker 1: I thought left a little bit to be desired.

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Speaker 2: Upside, but yeah, not consistent yet.

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Speaker 1: Will Howard maybe the product of his environment, but serviceable right, has.

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Speaker 2: Been more than serviceable right if he is excellent at

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Speaker 2: Ohio State. The early returns indicated.

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Speaker 1: I was very high on Will Howard coming into the season.

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Speaker 1: Riley Leonard's a big old right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to extend grace just because of injury stuff,

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Speaker 2: but continue injury stuff.

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Speaker 1: Good at running the football, definitely has his legs back

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Speaker 1: under him. Yeah, but throwing the ball that's been kind

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Speaker 1: of a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: Tricky.

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Speaker 1: The Kwan Finn at Baylor, yeah, beat up, didn't play

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Speaker 1: last week now, Dylan Gabriel, who was shaky I think

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Speaker 1: before this past week. Yeah, dju not even going to

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Speaker 1: have that discussion. Your guy Kyle McCord, Oh my god, monster,

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Speaker 1: who also has a claim as the answer to this question.

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Speaker 1: Will Rogers has been fine for Washington TVD is hurt,

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Speaker 1: probably done for the year. Brendan Soorsby at Cincinnati I

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Speaker 1: think has been something of a revelation at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: He's been good. Max Brozmer will wait and see at Minnesota. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Grayson McCall had just talked about Grace McCall and then

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Speaker 1: Curtis Rourke, who's been incredible, excellent for Indiana. But that's

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Speaker 1: your top sixteen. Yeah, and so it's striking to me

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Speaker 1: that of those guys, I can bold fase seven of

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Speaker 1: them and say, yeah, these guys have been pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no.

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Speaker 1: More than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's very little to go on, right, Like what's

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Speaker 2: more impressive Dylan Gabriel against Oregon State or cam Ward

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Speaker 2: against Florida. And I guess that's much more of a

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Speaker 2: knock on where Florida is right now as an opponent

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Speaker 2: that their Oregon State ish with how Oregon State has

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Speaker 2: been depleted. Will Howard hasn't played anybody that's the case

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Speaker 2: against him. Tyler Shuck hasn't played anybody that's the case

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Speaker 2: against him. You didn't even bring up Shuck.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't even bring up Shuck in that, And

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Speaker 1: that's sort of the point, right. This is just a

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Speaker 1: larger conversation about do lists mean anything? Do rankings mean anything?

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Speaker 1: Because guys that are not part of that top list.

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Speaker 1: Jordan McLeod at Texas State has been really good. kJ

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Speaker 1: Jefferson at UCF you just talked.

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Speaker 2: About you see, I think he's in that conversation for sure.

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Speaker 1: He should be our guy. Matt Sluka at UNLV has

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Speaker 1: been very very good, if not excellent, at running the football. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Diego Pavia something of a revelation at big Win lost

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Speaker 1: to Georgia State this passage Georgia Eli Holstein at Pitt Hello,

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Speaker 1: he's easily in the top five of this. I agree,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck not in that top grouping. Taylor Green not

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Speaker 1: in that top grouping. These are struggle against u AB,

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Speaker 1: struggled some against you AB, they won, And I think

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Speaker 1: he's He's raw still but obviously very talented. My bigger

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Speaker 1: point here is transfer quarterbacks are a coin flip as

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Speaker 1: to whether or not they're going to work. Transfer quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are really difficult to rank. You can rank them in theory,

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Speaker 1: but when you put them in their system, you either

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Speaker 1: have a Grayson McCall which maybe it doesn't work, or

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Speaker 1: you have a Curtis for work where it's working famously. Right,

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Speaker 1: take these lists with a grain assault, use them as

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Speaker 1: a reference, but do not treat them as gospel, because

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Speaker 1: for sure, there are a lot of guys that are

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Speaker 1: lower on this list. Who are I think outpacing some

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Speaker 1: of the names, some of the bigger names that were

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Speaker 1: much higher at the start of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, next two or three weeks, A lot of these

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Speaker 2: teams have big games. I don't think Oregon does, Organ's

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Speaker 2: on by, but cam Ward I believe has Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 2: He has USF this week, and then Virginia Tech. I believe.

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Speaker 2: I don't have their schedule in front of me. You know,

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Speaker 2: you see F schedule. We just went over pitt schedule.

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Speaker 2: I assume is going to continue to have challenges on

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Speaker 2: it because the a SEC seems wide open. Again, I

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Speaker 2: don't have it in front of me. Yeah, this would

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Speaker 2: be great. And the interesting thing about this conversation too,

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Speaker 2: is with somebody like Eli Holstein or and I'm not

638
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Speaker 2: being goofy here with Kyle McCord, is they come in

639
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Speaker 2: with either a new coordinator or a whole new head

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Speaker 2: coach or whatever, and their presence has been the catalyst

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Speaker 2: and you know, the the engine for change. Right. We

642
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Speaker 2: haven't seen a pit offense in a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: And then Eli Holstein and cade Bell I want to say,

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Speaker 2: come in and Eli Holstein is like the embodiment of

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Speaker 2: the new Pit offense, and Kyle McCord is the embodiment

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Speaker 2: of a much more productive Syracuse offense thus far, So

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Speaker 2: you know that might be a little bit more meaningful.

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Speaker 2: Whereas like Dylan Gabriel, if Dylan Gabriel is vaguely bo Nicks,

649
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Speaker 2: that's a success story, but it's nothing new for Oregon.

650
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: So we'll see, can't wait.

651
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: It is a broader point that we have made the

652
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: last couple of years now, especially as a transfer portal

653
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: has become more of a presence in college football, that

654
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: you cannot assume a big quarterback name is going to

655
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: equal big quarterback output. A lot of these guys I listed,

656
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: even if they're not necessarily in the top grouping of

657
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: what we have seen so far among transfers. Haven't all

658
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: been disasters. That's not the implication, right, They've been fine

659
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: in many cases. But again, you cannot assume as fact

660
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: that somebody stepping into a new position, whether it's because

661
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: of the system around him or the talent around him,

662
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: you just cannot assume that they're going to hit right away.

663
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: It looks like a coin flip. That's what we've been

664
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: saying That's what this amounts to here through three weeks

665
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: of the year, right, that's where I'm at.

666
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: Okay, next, I have well I mentioned the Arkansas thing.

667
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech a nice comfortable win against ODU. They have

668
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: Rutgers and at Miami, so there's a revenge factor against

669
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: Rutgers from last year. By the way, another quarterback we

670
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 2: haven't mentioned is athen caliac Manis Rutgers been solid.

671
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Speaker 1: Been Okay.

672
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: Vandy couldn't hold on against Georgia State. They had to

673
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: come back. They scored late. Georgia State came back with

674
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: a seventy five yard drive with a touchdown fifteen seconds

675
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: left in the game. Andy needed that to get to

676
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: a ball. Hank Brown at Auburn, Yeah, was good. It

677
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: was New Mexico. Auburn doesn't always succeed against teams from

678
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: New Mexico. Hank Brown, welcome to college football. Sawyer Robertson

679
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: was good right for Baylor against Air Force Bryce in

680
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 2: Washington looks like he could be quite fun for Baylor.

681
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: I mentioned Retz laugh twice now it was Wyoming, but

682
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: he looked very good. My final item, Cal ran the

683
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: hell out of the ball against San Diego State doesn't

684
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: have a great defense this year. No, Jada not beat up.

685
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 2: Jvan Thomas, Cadarius Callaway, and Dude performances for Cal.

686
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: And Cal's got Florida State this week.

687
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the late game. That game was happening

688
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: as we were recording. Cal has Florida State. They make

689
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Speaker 2: up one of the eight teams that look very difficult

690
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Speaker 2: all of the sudden for Florida State.

691
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Speaker 1: One of the things that we did this offseason where

692
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Speaker 1: we were updating our Patreon tiers out of for Bowlers

693
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Speaker 1: dot Com, we wanted to give that community an opportunity

694
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Speaker 1: to have more input into what we do on this

695
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: episode as it to look back, as it's one of

696
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: these things each week where we have a chance to

697
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: take a step back and look around college football to

698
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: see what's going on. So we decided we're going to

699
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: take a suggested topic each week and turn it into

700
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Speaker 1: a game. Would you like to play a game of

701
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: over under? Dan?

702
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: I would love to.

703
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: Let's play over or under. That's our girl, Nancy back

704
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: from her vacation. Great introing this segment. This one comes

705
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Speaker 1: to us from verbal or Kyle. Kyle says the SEC

706
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: needs a deeper dive because it seems like there have

707
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: been a lot of underwhelming showings this year. Yeah, our

708
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: game of over under is not what you think. Our

709
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: game is SEC overwhelmed or SEC underwhelmed. I've got seven

710
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: teams here. Oh, I want to talk through these quickly.

711
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: We do not need to spend ten minutes per team.

712
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: But these are teams that have been obviously on the radar,

713
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: they're in the SEC, and in some cases we haven't

714
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: talked a whole lot about them. So it's very simple, Dan,

715
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: I will throw out a team name. You will tell

716
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: me overwhelmed, underwhelmed based on what you've seen so far. Okay,

717
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm ready, easy one to start, Tennessee volunteers. Have you

718
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: been overwhelmed or have you been underwhelmed by?

719
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: Wow? See me personally overwhelmed. Absolutely. I think that's easy,

720
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: very little to complain about.

721
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: If anything. I think we start with an easy one.

722
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: Oklahoma this week.

723
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: Oklahoma is my next team on the list. Okay, but

724
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: they play this week, Yes, they play this week. Okay,

725
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: I've been underwhelmed by Oklahoma so far. Same, I've been underwhelmed,

726
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: And I think the text messages that we received from

727
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma Overballerhood sort of confirmed that, and I read

728
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: one of those off on one of our episodes last week.

729
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: It's striking to me that you get different answers from

730
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: Oklahoma fans as to why the vibes aren't as strong

731
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: as aid Hope. In some cases it's the quarterback. In

732
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: other cases it's the running game, which has not been good.

733
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: Some cases offensive coordinator, it's a coordinator, the play calling

734
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: with Seth Latrell. The fact that it's been all over

735
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: the map like that I do not take as a

736
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: good sign. Now they're home this week against Tennessee. Maybe

737
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: this is their opportunity to kind of get back on

738
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: the straight and narrow. But it sounds like among the

739
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: Oklahoma people that listen to us, the fact that they're

740
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: underwhelmed is meaningful because I feel it too, and they're

741
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: watching the team a lot more closely than I am.

742
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: So I think we're in agreement.

743
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: We're in agreement with being underwhelmed. And I think you're

744
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: right that it speaks to the state of Oklahoma that

745
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: the die hards, the people that watch every single snap

746
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: and read everything that everybody says, whatever, that nobody can

747
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: come to like a consensus top three things that are

748
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: wrong with Oklahoma that like, you would take it pretty

749
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: harshly and personally. If I said, Ty, these are the

750
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: five least favorite part arts of your face and you're like,

751
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, You're counting five parts of my face that

752
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 2: you take issue with, right, That'd be tough. So that's

753
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: that's where we are.

754
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, I think get a little bit of a pass,

755
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: but obviously underwhelmed after the Toledo loss.

756
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't just a loss, it was a comfortable drubbing.

757
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: They got beat down. Their performance versus their sp plus

758
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: projection was negative thirty two. Yeah, negative thirty two. They

759
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: were twenty points worse on defense and twelve points worth

760
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: worse on offense. So the fact that they bottomed out

761
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: in the way that they did against Toledo, which is

762
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: not a great offensive team, that's very underwhelming. And this

763
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: is a rebuilding situation. They're not gonna be good this year.

764
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: They're never gonna be good this year, but that one,

765
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: that one left a mark for me. If I'm being real,

766
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I gotta say underwhelmed solely based on that game.

767
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: This is the Nick Saban Louisiana Monroe moment for Jeff

768
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: Levy and Mississippi State. Yeah, Mississippi State underwhelming so far,

769
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: but obviously given the last you know, eighteen months or

770
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: so for Mississippi State, willing to extend some grace, but

771
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: Toledo shouldn't be included in that grace blanket, probably in

772
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: this moment. But yeah, it's been a full roster turnover.

773
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: Continue Texas A and M Dan Texas A and M

774
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: I've been pleasantly slightly overwhelmed by to open your season

775
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: against a noted AIM team and show a good amount

776
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: of fight, especially on defense. I'm not going to say

777
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: that I'm fully overwhelmed by them even after the Florida game,

778
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: just because I think quarterback questions kind of persist, like

779
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: where they're going to be long term in terms of

780
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: Connor Wegman's health, and you know, the upside of Marcel

781
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 2: Reed is obvious, but I don't know. We're what two

782
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: three games into the mic Elco Era, I would say,

783
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, it's a it's not a full gust of overwhelming,

784
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: but it's a gentle overwhelming breeze.

785
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: TI. I was impressed by what they did on the

786
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: road against Florida this past week and that's not to

787
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: say that Florida is any kind of great team. We

788
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: were both on Florida though they were at home. They

789
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: were a four point dog.

790
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: I let my DJ Lagway emotions get the best of me,

791
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: and that happens.

792
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: I tried to filter those out, and I still liked

793
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: Florida's chances in that game. Okay, but A and M just

794
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: sort of blow them out. It really wasn't really wasn't

795
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: a close game.

796
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, feisty defense. I like them.

797
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm slightly overwhelmed as well. Yeah, I think

798
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Speaker 1: I'm in agreement with you. Where do you stand on Auburn?

799
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: I am underwhelmed by Auburn in this moment? Are you

800
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: underwhelmed by Auburn the version that had Peyton Thorn? And

801
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: you feel better now about Hank Brown?

802
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: No? Because it's New Mexico, I don't care. T Mac

803
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: had seven hundred and eighteen yards against New Mexico in

804
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: Week one. I don't know what we consider all due

805
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: respect to Bronco, Mendenhull and the Lobos, I just don't

806
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: know what we can consider a performance against New Mexico

807
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: to be because they played a Cal team that I

808
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 2: think has some fight in them, but I don't think

809
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna win nine or ten games. I think there's

810
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: still gonna be a bowl ish team Cal and if

811
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: they're going with Hank Brown the rest of the way, Okay,

812
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued. I'm definitely intrigued by a Hank Brown Auburn

813
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: team in ways that I wasn't with Peyton Thorn. But

814
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: paint Thorn is also like laid the lumber against terrible teams.

815
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm still a little bit underwhelmed

816
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: because that Cal game at home was an opportunity to say,

817
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: here is the two point zero version of Hugh Freeze's Auburn,

818
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 2: and you know it's Hugh Freeze. I saw some stories.

819
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: I think they was sort of taken out of context,

820
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: a little bit like throwing players under the bus and

821
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: said the coaches called a near perfect game against Cal.

822
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: I don't think the full context was there, but I

823
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: don't know. At home against that team like that was

824
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: a nice opportunity to show up the progress that we

825
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: had been hoping to see from Auburn.

826
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: What strikes me about Auburn stop me when you get

827
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: to a game here on the schedule, I'm ready that

828
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: feels like a gimmey win. Okay, a team that you

829
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: look at and you say, yeah, Auburn is definitely better

830
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: than that team. This week Arkansas. I don't think you

831
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: can say that about Arkansas.

832
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: He said it's Arkansas at home.

833
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: Arkansas at home. Okay, Next week Oklahoma at home. Definitely

834
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Speaker 1: not a gimme.

835
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 2: Not a gimme.

836
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: Week six on the road at Georgia, definitely.

837
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 2: Not not a gimme.

838
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: They're on by week seven, maybe that's the answer. But

839
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: the gate on the road at Missoo, definitely not a gimme.

840
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: Week nine on the road at Kentucky. Kentucky didn't look great,

841
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: but I still don't think that's a gimme. Right, And

842
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: then week ten the answers Vanderbilt, I don't think it's

843
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: a gimme.

844
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: And then maybe it's after what is not against Diego

845
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: Pavia other than lose.

846
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: Maybe then it's week twelve after another buye against Louisiana Monroe.

847
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with Auburn, it's not a question of

848
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: gimme or not a gimme. It's sort of a squint question.

849
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: Can you squint and see wins against dot dot dot?

850
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: Because that's what you're doing right now. With Auburn's offense.

851
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: I could see wins against Arkansas. That's doable. Yeah, I

852
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: don't think they're beating Oklahoma. They're not beating Georgia. I

853
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: don't think they're beating Massoo. I could squint and see

854
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: a win against Kentucky if we get the version of

855
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: Kentucky we saw last week. Sure, and certainly against Vanderbilt.

856
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: But either way, they've already got a loss on the schedule,

857
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: and if you count Oklahoma, Georgia and MISSOO, that's three more.

858
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: They've also got a game late against Alabama that is

859
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: a rivalry. But I think Bama looks head.

860
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: And shoulders above I mean, they were a free play

861
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: from winning that game last year, but yeah, last year

862
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: they were.

863
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: But I think Bama looks head and shoulders above Auburn

864
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: at this point. That game is at Brian Denny this year,

865
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: the A and M later in the year. I don't

866
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: know what version of A and M we're gonna get.

867
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: So this looks like a five lost team to me.

868
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look at the teams are going to stack

869
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: the box against Jarquess Hunter and they're going to force

870
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 2: whoever's that quarterback to beat them, And so now you're saying, Okay,

871
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: what is the evolution what is the development of again

872
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: Peyton Thorne or Hank Brown look like against these teams

873
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: who have now who are now going to start looking

874
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: at Auburn and saying, like, oh man, our schedule is

875
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: really tough, but like we've circled the Auburn game as

876
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: an opportunity because we know that their offense is kind

877
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: of shaky at times, so they're gonna be getting a

878
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 2: lot of best shots too.

879
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: Last two teams are Arkansas and Missou. Underwhelmed, overwhelmed.

880
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm just whelmed by Arkansas in this moment, if that's okay, Okay,

881
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: I don't know the way that they fell down to

882
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: UAB obviously in a letdown situation after Oklahoma State. I

883
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: believe for the week before and that overt time loss.

884
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 2: I still need to see, like I'm very much overwhelmed

885
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: by Arkansas on the ground. I'm very much overwhelmed by

886
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 2: Arkansas on defense at times like looking improved. I don't know.

887
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: The passing game, to me is still a pretty big

888
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: element of all of this with Arkansas feelings, and I'm

889
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: not there yet I like, you know, Andrew Armstrong so

890
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: a solid receiver. I don't think he's a star, an

891
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: SEC star receiver. But I'm still a little bit whelmed

892
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: after that UAB game.

893
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm overwhelmed by Arkansas, Okay, And you could

894
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 1: probably pick that up from the timber in my voice

895
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: whenever I talk about the Razorbacks this year. Maybe I'm

896
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: too focused on Taylor Green. I just think he's crazy

897
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: talented and he's not a finished product. There is definitely

898
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: a rawness to his game at this point that if

899
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: you're an Arkansas fan, you know your heart's in your

900
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: throat more often than not, knowing this guy's got a

901
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: big mistake in a more an incredible brill. It's kind

902
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: of one or the other. Their postgame win expectancy in

903
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: that Oklahoma Steak game, the one that they lost in overtime,

904
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: they gave it away. Yeah eighty six percent, Yeah eighty

905
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: six percent. So they played well enough to beat So

906
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: doesn't that welm you a little? Welm? I mean I'm

907
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: saying I'm overwhelmed.

908
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: No, I know, I'm saying wellem is like, bring them

909
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: back to like average whelming, not over or under.

910
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: Between between what the defense looked like against UAB and

911
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: how they lost at Oklahoma Steak Game. Yeah, it definitely

912
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: brings them back down to earth. But I the general

913
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: sentiment here is I feel better about them than it

914
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: did in the preseason.

915
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 2: At Auburn A and M at Jerry World, I believe,

916
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: and Tennessee at home are the next three.

917
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: It's not just those games. They've got LSU, They've got all.

918
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: I'm just saying short term.

919
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got Texas, they got Miszoo still in the schedule.

920
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: It's a brutal schedule. Yeah, absolutely brutal.

921
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: Feels like you need a passing game.

922
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: Feels like you need a passing game. So far, so far,

923
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: I've been I've been good with Arkansas, and then the

924
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: last one's mis Zoo.

925
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to say overwhelmed, slightly overwhelmed. They took care

926
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: of business against nobody in particular those first couple weeks.

927
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: They want a clunker against BC. I'm willing to extend

928
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: a certain amount of grace to Missoo given the step

929
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: forward they took last year. I don't know, they adjusted

930
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: really well defensively to Castellanos and BC. So that's something

931
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. It didn't feel like these two teams

932
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: were competitive in the second half of a game, which

933
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: seems important. So yeah, I'm slightly overwhelmed by Miszoo. Like

934
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: I think it's Corey batun Is, the new from South

935
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: Alabama defensive coordinator from Miszoo that I did a really

936
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: nice job adjusting. We Still I would be more whelmed.

937
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: I would have more overwhelming whelming. I don't know. I

938
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: want to see more fun Luther Burden down the field,

939
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 2: Like I want to see kind of a video game

940
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: element to Miszoo that we haven't really seen thus far.

941
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: Of their remaining game. So the remaining nine games, there's

942
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: only one projected loss here that's on the road to Alabama.

943
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: It's such a great schedule, but it is a really

944
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: good schedule.

945
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: For an SEC team.

946
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a very favorable schedule. So do they

947
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: miss well, they I mentioned they played Bama, right, but

948
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: they don't have to play Georgia. They don't have to

949
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: play Tennessee. Where's the Bama game. Bama game is in

950
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: Bryan Denny, so that's tough. Okay, they do not have

951
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: to play teams like LSU. Texas is not on this

952
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: Texas not on the schedule. It's seemingly the best teams

953
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: in the SEC are not in the schedule. Yeah, with

954
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Thelemel right, Noel miss.

955
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: Noel Miss, no Georgia, no Texas. That's great.

956
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: I think I am about where I expected with Miszoo. Okay,

957
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: is where I'm at. But game against Vandy this week

958
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: before bye and then on the road at A and

959
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: M Kyle Field, that'll be an interesting matchup. We'll see.

960
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: You know who they do have. They do have the

961
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: Creator on the road, right, Lenoris. Yeah, they do have

962
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: Lenora sellers in It's not in Miszoo. It's not in Columbia.

963
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: I guess it's Columbia, Columbia. It's in Colombia. It's just

964
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: the other Columbia.

965
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, okay, correct, all the way out into middle

966
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: of November week twelveth.

967
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: Well, it's a great schedule. It's such a good schedule.

968
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: Right in so Verbo at gmail dot com or hit

969
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: us up on social media, leave a comment if you

970
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: can leave a comment somewhere on this podcast, let us

971
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: know where you agree, disagree, are indifferent. But thanks to

972
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: Kyle for sending in that SEC question. He says a

973
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: lot of underwhelming showings this year. We'll see how right

974
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: we are about some of these teams as we get

975
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper into this campaign, Dan, Great, where

976
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: are we going next? Last, but certainly not least, let's

977
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 1: do a little bit of a look ahead for the week.

978
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: There are three games of note on Thursday and Friday

979
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: that we need to discuss here. We've been doing these

980
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: previews a few days early because, as they said an

981
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: episode or two ago, typically when we would do the

982
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: previews for these games as part of the Wednesday or

983
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: Thursday preview episode, we'd have to stack it all the

984
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: way at the back end of the show because we

985
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: didn't want the first thing you heard to go stale

986
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: within twenty four hours. So now we finally it took

987
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: us seventeen years whatever the hell it's been of doing

988
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: this show to figure out, oh, may we should just

989
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: talk about these games earlier. Yeah, so we're talking about

990
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: them earlier. Doing on Tuesday this year. This is kind

991
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: of like our Early Bird special Friday eight pm on Fox.

992
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: It is a ranked contest between number twenty four Illinois

993
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: and now number twenty two Nebraska. The vibes are strong

994
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: at Nebraska then right now they are very strong. They

995
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: are a nine point favorite in this one. I take

996
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: what you said about Illinois and I commit that to memory.

997
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: I look at this game, though, and I say, oh, man,

998
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: and this is going to be a rock fight. This

999
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: looks like a rock fight to me, where yeah, Dilan

1000
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: Royola looks a little bit more mortal. The Illinois pass

1001
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: defense is significantly better this year than they were last year,

1002
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: and I think better than anything Royola has seen so far.

1003
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: So even if he doesn't go out there and look

1004
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: like he's out of his depth, I still expect less

1005
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: emphasis on the pass and more on the run, because

1006
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: that's where Illinois is gettable. You want to run against

1007
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: Illinois if you can.

1008
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: Yep.

1009
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: That was the concern coming into the year. The stats,

1010
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: for whatever they're worth at this point through three weeks

1011
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: of the year, also support that that's a bit of

1012
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: an issue.

1013
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 2: Yep.

1014
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying rock fight. I think we're talking about field

1015
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: position and time of possession and turnovers and all the

1016
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: big stuff in the Upper Midwest that makes the Big

1017
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: ten the Big ten. Mm HM twenty to thirteen Nebraska.

1018
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm going points here, taking Illinois plus the points, but

1019
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: illinoid to ultimately succumbed to Nebraska on the road.

1020
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: How's the weather going to be in Lincoln, Nebraska? In

1021
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 2: check the weather, hot Ty, It's Friday night.

1022
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: Friday night, eight pm on Fox.

1023
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a high of ninety degrees, I think in Nebraska.

1024
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if that changes anything for you. You know,

1025
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: I was searching for reasons to take those points, and

1026
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 2: I think you're you're not wrong when you talk about

1027
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: it being a struggle at times and field position and

1028
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: you know, lunging for a first down marker on thirty

1029
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: three or something like that, that you know every yard

1030
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: is going to be difficult. I think Illinois might be

1031
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: one of our first LRO teams of the season that

1032
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: first half against Central Michigan. I like the win against Kansas.

1033
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: I do Kansas just also lost to UNLV, did they not?

1034
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: They did?

1035
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: Am I correct? And that result, so we kind of

1036
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: have to downgrade the importance of Illinois's win in that moment.

1037
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: I am a believer in Luke Altmeyer's development and those receivers.

1038
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: There was a great clip of I think it was

1039
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: Pat Bryant blocking his ass off against CMU on a

1040
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: long run. I love seeing stuff like that. That's what

1041
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: makes me upgrade a team. But I think this is

1042
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: just a bad matchup. We saw Nebraska's defensive line was

1043
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: able to do against Colorado's offensive line and really put

1044
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: Doris Sanders in a bind. So I just Nebraska's at home.

1045
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: They haven't played a road game, I don't believe yet.

1046
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: So there is a certain amount of comfort the Nebraska's

1047
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 2: feeling right now. It's been an easy path thus far.

1048
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: Illinois will be more difficult. But ultimately I'm going to

1049
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: say something like twenty seven to seventeen, and Nebraska covers

1050
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 2: barely covers.

1051
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be right around that number. No, I think

1052
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: that's fair to say. I've got it at seven, You've

1053
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: got it at ten.

1054
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1055
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: Also on Friday Night, let's talk about the f animal

1056
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: coming out of hibernation with the Bible. Seven point thirty

1057
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: on ESPN, Stanford versus Syracuse, a classic ACC rivalry, damnastic.

1058
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: Stanford now begins a run of Syracuse, Clemson, Virginia Tech,

1059
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: and Notre Dame on four straight weeks. Not feel good

1060
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: for the Cardinal.

1061
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: No.

1062
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: I looked at this game. I did a brief, brief

1063
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: look at the numbers and the stat profiles, for both

1064
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: these teams, and I just feel like Syracuse is way better.

1065
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: They're at home, it's Friday night, good bit of travel

1066
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: for a Stanford team that I'm not crazy high on.

1067
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: They're still rebuilding, right, this is a game I think

1068
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: that Syracuse should cover.

1069
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: No, I think so. I mean, Syracuse hasn't been fully

1070
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: tested yet as much as we like to have fun

1071
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: with it. And I don't think Stanford is going to

1072
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 2: offer that, but just in terms of what we believe

1073
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: Syracuse to be or not be. But I don't know.

1074
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: The Stanford defense I still think has a ways to go.

1075
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: There's interesting players on this Stanford offense, though, like I think,

1076
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I still think they're behind.

1077
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 2: I'm going to go again.

1078
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: The number is, the number is nine and a half.

1079
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take. I think I'm gonna take

1080
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: Qu's here.

1081
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like we have to.

1082
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Youse and I feel good about it.

1083
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: And again it this is what my grandfather told me,

1084
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: his father told me the father before that it's not

1085
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: truly the fall, it's not truly called football season until

1086
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: we see that Stanford Syracuse ACC matchup.

1087
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: I know so I know here we are. It will

1088
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: be written into the record books forever more. Yeah, the

1089
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: classic ACC matchup between these two schools and last, but

1090
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: certainly not least, GE five game. Talked about South Alabama

1091
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: putting up eighty seven points last week. Yep, this one's

1092
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: on Thursday on ESPN. South Alabama going on the road

1093
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: to boone square off against app State. App States about

1094
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: an eight point favorite.

1095
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 2: Week after an emotional comeback win.

1096
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: Yes there should be points in this game. Yes, there

1097
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: should be points in this game because I don't know

1098
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: I really trust either defense, so I think it's very

1099
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: beneficial looking at this one for app State and Joey Aguiar,

1100
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: I think they're going to put up a ton of

1101
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: yardage through the air, but I also don't know if

1102
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: they can get take in South alabamacause I don't know

1103
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: if they trust their defense either. So I'm long way

1104
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: of saying, give me Upstate minus the number. It's forty

1105
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: two to twenty eight, a bunch of points somewhere in

1106
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: that range. A fun Thursday night game if you're in

1107
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: the market for one.

1108
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you know, a South Alabama Jaguar team

1109
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: that had to sort of start very late. It's major

1110
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: ap away right correct at South Alabama, and so they

1111
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: lose you know, Kane Wamick to Alabama a little bit

1112
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: late in the process. So you know, I still think

1113
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: there's an adjustment period with South Alabama. I think I'm

1114
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: gonna give those points as well. The short week road thing,

1115
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: it's it's kind of nice to pick against that team.

1116
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: If we believe in app State as a quality team,

1117
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to give the points.

1118
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: So the schedule for the week ahead, just in terms

1119
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: of the solid verbal.

1120
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: It's a fun one, this skit for us and for

1121
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: week four in general.

1122
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what it looks like for us is we

1123
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: dropped the recap episodes midnight on Saturdays. But before we

1124
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: get to that point, we got the preview episode that

1125
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: drops to the feed on Thursday. We've got Big ten Break,

1126
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: which has been going really well and is a ton

1127
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: of fun, that drops to our YouTube channel on Friday

1128
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: nine am is when you could watch that. But bigger picture,

1129
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: just in terms of the verbowler hood, Dan week four

1130
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: definitely better than Week three, and there are a handful

1131
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: of matchups that I think we bubble to the surface

1132
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: here and look at and say Yeah, these are games

1133
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: that are going to tell us a lot about the

1134
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: teams involved. We've got NC State at Clemson. Clemson's a

1135
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: heavy favorite in that game by seventeen. Yeah, but we

1136
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: will definitely know a lot more about NC State on

1137
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: the back side of this one. You mentioned USC at

1138
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: Michigan before USC right now time of recording, we're doing

1139
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: this recording Monday afternoon, five and a half point road

1140
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: favorite in the Big House four PM on Fox A

1141
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: Big twelve showdown between Utah and Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State

1142
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: favored by two and a half points? Is Cam rising

1143
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: back for that one? Is that the assumption? I hope?

1144
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: So what do you say? That number? Is the Utah

1145
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: game two and a half.

1146
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: In favor of Oklahoma State and they're at home.

1147
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, the USC game up to a

1148
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: six and a half six and a half now at

1149
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 2: some books in this moment.

1150
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So we got the Utah Oklahoma State game, which

1151
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: is going to be very significant for the Big twelve season,

1152
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: and then Tennessee at Oklahoma.

1153
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: You have this down Oklahoma minus seven on the document,

1154
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: which gave me a second.

1155
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: I think I meant to put plus seven. It's Tennessee

1156
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: minus seven, Oklahoma plus seven at home Okay seven thirty

1157
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: on ABC.

1158
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: Oklahoma has a moment to show that it can grow.

1159
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: Now Tennessee has a moment because they've already proven it

1160
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: against NC State. I don't know this is I hope

1161
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: it's not ugly, that's all I am pointing to. I

1162
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: hope Oklahoma is able to Maybe it was a look

1163
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: ahead spot against Tulane, but I kind of doubt it.

1164
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: So I hope for Oklahoma that we get something new

1165
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: from this offense.

1166
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: And very quickly. Just some other matchups that I think

1167
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: are interesting and meaningful. Florida is only a four and

1168
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: a half point road favored against Mississippi State, which says

1169
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: a lot about where the book makers have Florida right now.

1170
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: That number should be bigger given the state of Mississippi State.

1171
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: The fact that it isn't is I think pretty damning

1172
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: for billion Napier. I agree they lose this game, they

1173
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: go into a bye week after this. If they lose

1174
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: this game, it's over.

1175
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: I think.

1176
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: So it may already be over.

1177
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean, given the context of Mississippi State losing to Toledo,

1178
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: you can't lose to the team that lost to the

1179
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: team right in that case Toledo. So I think vibes

1180
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: are down bad.

1181
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: Vibes are really bad. And like I said, it may

1182
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: already be over for Napier right, but certainly if they

1183
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: don't win that game, that would be very problematic.

1184
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: We should after this show record a Billy Napier has

1185
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: been let go just so we can get at the

1186
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: algorithm like that tie.

1187
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably the first one to go, not an

1188
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: if this season. We also have Auburn at Arkansaw. We

1189
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: mentioned that one before. That'll be interesting. Yeah, three point

1190
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: thirty on the ACC network, rock right now, getting four

1191
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: and a half on the road A Virginia Tech. That

1192
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: might be my lock of the year right now. Wow,

1193
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Virginia Tech's that good. I was real

1194
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: high in Virginia Tech, mostly as a byproduct of Kiren

1195
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: drones in the schedule, and so far, I think they

1196
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: have underwhelmed.

1197
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: But doesn't Virginia Tech potentially fall into their not who

1198
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: they are in their worst day, They're not who they

1199
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: are on their best day.

1200
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just haven't been overwhelmed by

1201
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: any of their first couple showings so far. I don't

1202
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: know if you're not good. Okay, so I'm already in

1203
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: at Rutgers plus five and a half. That numbers already

1204
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: come down. Wouldn't surprise me if it continued going down.

1205
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: What else we got here? We got Miami, Ohio at

1206
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame another MAC game. Oh god, we'll see what

1207
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: happens there.

1208
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: Look, Notre Dame has been nothing if not competitive against

1209
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: the Mac this season.

1210
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: Correct, thank you now. Georgia Tech at Louisville should be fun.

1211
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: Should tell us a lot about Louisville. I desperately wanted

1212
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: to talk more about Louisville as part of this episode.

1213
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: I did not feel we had much to go on.

1214
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: They've only played two games, so Georgia Tech can score.

1215
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: We'll see what the defense looks like for Louisville at home.

1216
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: We'll see what Tyler Shuck looks like against Georgia Tech.

1217
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: That'll be a meaningful game, I think, just to help

1218
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: us suss out where the ACC's at. The Skillet game

1219
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: TCU minus two and a half at SMU. I think

1220
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm really heavy on TCU there.

1221
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: Okay, coming off of a kind of an ugly gack

1222
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: against UCF. But Kevin Jennings new quarterback, full time starter

1223
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: at SMU rivalry game on the CW. That's how I

1224
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: been calling.

1225
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: That one, I believe, So five pm. And then just

1226
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: to round things out very quickly, some other games, just

1227
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: to be mindful of, we'll preview a bunch of these

1228
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: on the Thursday show. I'm ready. Iowa at Minnesota's the

1229
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: seven thirty NBC game on Saturday night, Great Miami at

1230
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: USF at seven pm, m Spicy, Spicy. We called this

1231
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 1: game out many moons ago.

1232
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: Yep.

1233
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: Michigan State at Boston College. I put it on here

1234
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: just because I talked a lot about Michigan State eight

1235
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: and Boston College is interesting. Yeah, Michigan State at Boston College,

1236
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: Baylor at Colorado. It's only about a one point spread

1237
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: something like that in favor of Colorado.

1238
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: I think it's another Sawyer Robertson game, I believe for Baylor. Okay,

1239
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: and Cal at Florida State. Florida State favored by one

1240
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: and a half points.

1241
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: Who at home at home?

1242
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: I mean Cal's already gone to Auburn, yeah, and won

1243
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: it like it would so Florida State's favored.

1244
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: You said one and a half points? Is the is

1245
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: the line right now.

1246
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: Oh well, here's what you do need to know for

1247
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: whatever it means. Last year, I believe DJU absolutely lit

1248
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: up Cal at Oregon State at Oregon State, different coach,

1249
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: different team, different everything. So I don't know, maybe there's

1250
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: something there. But if you're talking about a quarterback who

1251
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: has struggled for a team whose vibes are down, one

1252
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: of the last people i'd like game planning against my

1253
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: team with Justin Wilcox, who just throws ghosts into defense

1254
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 2: at his best throws a lot of ghosts into those

1255
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: passing lanes. The other game here that I'll call out

1256
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: and then we'll call it a show, please, Bowling Green

1257
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: at Texas A and m Okay, So, Bowling Green fought.

1258
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: Penn State in Beaver Stadium. M hmm, only lost that one,

1259
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: I think by a touchdown. Bowling Green was a team

1260
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: I called out in the preseason when he did the

1261
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: MAC preview. I think Bowling States or Bowling Green, excuse me,

1262
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: is a pretty good team. That's not to say they're

1263
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: going to go into Kyle Field and win. I do

1264
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 1: think they'll fight. The point spread, right, how is twenty

1265
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: two points? I would probably air on the side of

1266
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: Bowling Green, even though it's in Kyle Field, right, it's

1267
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: not particularly a look ahead situation for a team like

1268
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: Texas A and M who got Arkansas the following week.

1269
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of a sandwich situation though, right,

1270
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,479
Speaker 1: But it kind of is right. It's not a full

1271
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: blown look ahead or let down, but it's it's innocuous

1272
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: looking enough that you could definitely construct an argument for

1273
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: a fourteen point Texas A and.

1274
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: M way right a cover right. I think Mike Elcho

1275
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: is too good a coach, and there's too much on

1276
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: this A and M team to feel a big threat,

1277
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: especially after Bowling Green gave Penn State all it could

1278
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: handle for two or three quarters. Yep, so or the

1279
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: entire game? Really?

1280
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: So, is something right, something to keep your eye on. Sure,

1281
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: as we talk about those late games that maybe get

1282
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle, we probably won't have time to

1283
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: do the full preview of that one. But I don't know.

1284
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: Just just bear that game in mind, Okay.

1285
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: Bearing it in mind?

1286
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: Tie? That is all I have, boys and girls?

1287
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 2: So what's your answer for my original question?

1288
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: Then? What's what was the original question?

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Speaker 2: What leftover food is actually better left over than fresh?

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Speaker 1: Pad tie is really good leftover.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do cold or do you reheat it? I do

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Speaker 2: the reheat. There are some elements of cold, like Thai food,

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Speaker 2: Chinese food that is so good.

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Speaker 1: I would pad Thai comes to mind first. I would

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Speaker 1: also say that reheated chili, Yeah, it's really good.

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Speaker 2: Give that those flavors time to mix around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, depending how you reheat the pizza.

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Speaker 2: No, pizza is not one hundred and answer at all,

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Speaker 2: but can I respect you? It's all the same.

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Speaker 1: If you do it in the oven, it can be

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Speaker 1: just as good the day after. I think it's one

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Speaker 1: of your worst takes ever. Okay, it's fine, it's fine,

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Speaker 1: it's okay. You disagree for different people. Yeah, I had

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Speaker 1: another thought. I'm blanking. What's your well?

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Speaker 2: I mentioned brownies right, like they're a pan of hot

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Speaker 2: brownies is delicious. Of course, brownies are better cold. They're

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Speaker 2: way better cold. You give well, I'm saying they're they're

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Speaker 2: delicious all the same, Like they're still good, but you

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Speaker 2: give them. I don't know where you store your brownies

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Speaker 2: of whether it's like a tupperware or you just put

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Speaker 2: a you know, a thing of foil over the pan

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Speaker 2: and set it aside or put it in a cold oven.

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Speaker 2: However you store your your left like it's so much

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Speaker 2: better that next day.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's not even cool. I put him in the fridge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chili, I think is probably like the Apex answer here,

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Speaker 2: chili's great warmed up. Well, I'm not even saying that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's so much better when it has

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Speaker 2: time to sit even longer. So yeah, I agree, that's

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Speaker 2: my answer. I love a good like second third day chili.

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Speaker 1: So what is the ask from our forbawler Hood. The

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01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: ask is tell one friend.

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Speaker 2: Tell one friend pillow Talk, regular talk, when you're in

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Speaker 2: a dentist.

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Speaker 1: Chair, whatever it is, one tell one friend.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell a pillow Talk story gone wrong on

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Speaker 2: our Thursday bonus show for Verballers at verballers dot com.

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Speaker 1: Gone wrong does it? Does it involve trying to recommend

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Speaker 1: our podcast?

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Speaker 2: No? Good, it does not. It has nothing. It's fully

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01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 2: g rated to be but pillow Talk. I actually have

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Speaker 2: a couple of pillow Talks gone wrong.

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Speaker 1: This guy? All right, pillow Talk Thursday coming your way,

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Speaker 1: head for baller Time, Go and go and sign up

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Speaker 1: and check it out. We will have a new run

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Speaker 1: the board game set up for this coming week. We

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Speaker 1: have yet to announce the prize. We'll do that on

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Speaker 1: the Thursday episode. But game's been going great. People have

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Speaker 1: really been into it. We've had more entries this year

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Speaker 1: than ever before. Every week play for fabulous prizes. That

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Speaker 1: is the way this works. Go to play rundboard dot

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Speaker 1: com for details. Any paid tier on our Patreon, whether

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01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: you're a certified or a Premium for Baller, you get

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Speaker 1: access to the game, play for the prizes, play against

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01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: for Ballhood and against Dan and I and all the

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Speaker 1: people that help the.

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Speaker 2: Show place would love to have you, but behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: for myself, Tie Hildebrand, thanks for downloading, for listening, playing

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Speaker 1: along at home, for supporting the show, for telling one

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01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: friend talk y'all on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Say solid peace.