1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Swine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Okay, 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: so I'm very excited about today's podcast because we've got 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Jason I'm gonna I'm gonna say Openheim, Oppenheim, Oppenheim. I'm 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's open him. Is that German? Sounds kind 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: of like it has to be. Yeah, it sounds like 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: something you'd say, Oppenheim open I'm not the mug. What's 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: the mug called? Oh? Shoot, um no, but it's I'm 8 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: kind of hopefully he's not going to because obviously we 9 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: got to ask him about Krishell. We got to ask 10 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: him about you know, Krishell and g Flip. We gotta 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: ask him about the Christine Sistine, which you definitely want 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: to talk to him about. So, I mean, what's his 13 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: vibe do you think they? Do you think he's I 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: think he's going to be like, um, very like politically correct, 15 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like just kind of like 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: play it cool, everybody's good. I mean, he started the 17 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: selling Sunset franchise right like it's because of his brother. Yeah, 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I mean it's his brokerage. That show has 19 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: blown up, it has I love it. I can't me 20 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: to touch the new one. Yeah, I'm not see well, um, 21 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: let's take a break and then let's get him on. 22 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean like I'm so nasty, like I need to shower, 23 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: like I'm just the fact that I was just like 24 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't wear this to the nail san. 25 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: It was just like disgusting. I was like I was 26 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: gonna like I was like I looked at the BOUTI 27 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: shorts on. Hi, how are you well? Nice to meet you. 28 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm Janna, I'm Katherine. How are you? It's Katherine. Um, 29 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: so we are so excited to have you on wine down. Um. Yeah, 30 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: just just super pumped about it. And we're also heading 31 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles this weekend. So I feel like, are 32 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: we in the market? Were in the market? But so 33 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: I moved from Los Angeles what three years ago? Um, 34 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: to Nashville. But I feel like, is there even people 35 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: moving to l A? Because everybody in my community is 36 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: from Los Angeles, Like everybody that I meet is like 37 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: from Yeah, It's like, so is that are you seeing that? 38 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Or just because I feel like even because I lived 39 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: in l A for god fifteen something years maybe, and 40 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things where it's like people 41 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: are always going to be moving there, right, it's like 42 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: one of those cities or now, I think we've seen 43 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: more more people leaving in the last two years, and 44 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: I've seen them ever since I've been here. I've never 45 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: seen this type of of wealth leaving the city for sure. 46 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: And it's in places like you know, Nashville, Miami or 47 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: anywhere in Florida for that matter, their Vegas. Um just 48 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, secondary markets, tertiary markets that you wouldn't have 49 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: thought of Austin, Texas, places like that. They just want 50 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: to get out for so many reasons. I mean so 51 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: many reasons. So does that worry you at all with 52 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: the market and and you know obviously with selling Sunset, 53 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: but like you're gonna do like a selling Nashville and 54 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: then like just like you can have like a home 55 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: base and all these because are you part of the 56 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: new one that they're doing in the c or no, 57 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: yeah you are, okay, So I mean I feel like 58 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: you can like franchise out right to different places. You know, 59 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm a weather guy, so I don't think I could 60 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: ever leave Soca. Mm hmm. I think a lot of 61 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: people are going to be going through like a humid 62 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: time and in my ammy or I don't know enough 63 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: about the Nashville weather, but I'm sure you have some 64 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: rough bunds. And I feel like people are gonna be 65 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: moving back, so we'll see. I mean, you're gonna get 66 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: bit by mosquitoes and don't look at the ankles right now. Yeah, 67 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: I know some people like seasons, so seasons are nice. Listen, 68 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: we had a thunderstorm. I used to remember because I'm 69 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: just from Michigan and I moved to l A And 70 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: I was like, where's the thunderstorms? Like I love a 71 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: good thunderstorm, Like you get some good ones here, you know, Yeah, 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: I get thunderstorm, but I will give up on a 73 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: good thunderstorm for a lot, you know, not having three 74 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: months of thunderstorm right, That's fair? All right, Katherine, fire away, 75 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: because I know you've got some questions. I do. I 76 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: have a ton of questions. Where do we want to start? 77 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: Let's go Christine, Okay, Christine, Yes, let's talk about Christine. 78 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna get it out of the way. 79 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna get it out of the way, I promise. 80 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: Just where does how are things with you guys? Where 81 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: do y'all stand um, cordial cool. You know, I think 82 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: we're okay. I don't really know, um what the future 83 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: hole and just haven't gotten into it yet. Sure you know, 84 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 1: I'm open, but we haven't got we haven't got there yet, 85 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: So she was kind of I'm a little behind, um, 86 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: so she was kind of catching me up when we 87 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: were getting our nails done earlier. And I'm personally I've 88 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: never really been a fan of Christine's. I don't know 89 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: she um. Her personality is just uh and it's really 90 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: rude for music as I hate when people judge me 91 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: without getting to know me. So but from what I see, 92 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: and I just it's not like a very warm energy 93 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: and seems like a little aggressive at times. And so 94 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: I don't like what you said she did though about 95 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: how she asked someone like she paid someone to not 96 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: work with them, Like I feel like that's like a 97 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: that's a that's a move that's a little not cool 98 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: because it's like, aren't you guys were all part of 99 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess she's leaving now, so right like 100 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: she's she's gone, I believe, so yeah it is, um, 101 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean without getting into the details of that UM 102 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of nuance there that 103 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: that may have not been explicated you know fully to 104 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: the public. But because the truth is, agents provide financial 105 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: incentives to clients all the time for clients not to 106 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: work with other agents, They'll reduce their commission, they'll pay 107 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: pay for staging costs, you know, in order to encourage 108 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: a client to come to them and set up to 109 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: another agent. Uh, what I don't want is that happening 110 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: in in my office. I don't want an agent, you know, 111 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: trying to encourage a client to move from one of 112 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: my agents to another one of my agents. I know 113 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: that it happens out, you know, in the wild, but 114 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't want it to be happening in my own office. 115 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: So we've never had a chance to really talk through 116 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: that yet. Um, you know, I wanna really give everyone 117 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: that benefit of doubt, and I don't want to judge, 118 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: like to hear the facts and the nuance of things, 119 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: as usually shades are greater things. So I'm kind of 120 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: waiting to hear more and to let that play out, 121 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: which is fair. I think that's great. Like I like that. 122 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there are always, like you said, two sides 123 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: to every story, and until you are able to hear 124 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: her side of the story. I think that's only fair 125 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: to hold that. Who's your favorite on the show? Oh 126 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: that's hard. I like Mary. I love Mary, she's so sweet. 127 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: And Emma, I love them all. Emma, I had. Emma 128 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: and Mary are my like I mean obviously like Rich, 129 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: but also Emma and Mary or with my faiths. They 130 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: both came on the wind down to um, can I 131 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: ask you kind of a personal question? You can ask 132 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: whatever you want if I don't answer, okay, Um, so 133 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: I know everyone has asked you pretty much question tonight. 134 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: Are you single? I am? Okay, Yeah, I've been single 135 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: for about two months now. Yeah, um yea very single. 136 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: Nailed my timing. I'm glad I didn't come on well 137 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: just I have two kids though, so that's that was 138 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: the question I was leading into, was the kids. So 139 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: I've got two kids. Um, and I remember from what 140 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: I heard from the things that I read, was that 141 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: you didn't want kids and that's why you and crishall 142 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: ended things. Um is that something where do you think 143 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: back and go man like I like, I know some 144 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: people is like oh like I I maybe would have 145 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: had one because I love that person so much, or 146 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: was that, like, do you have any regrets of of 147 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: that or you just simply don't want That's just not 148 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: something you've ever wanted. That's a there's a lot to 149 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: unpack there. Yeah, I don't know the difference between one 150 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: kid and two kids. I'm almost you know, I don't 151 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: know if that's that's an issue. I think the question 152 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: is is I think at some point I'll be married 153 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: and have kids. I think the question for me is, 154 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: you know, does that need to be now? I'm probably 155 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna even until I'm nineties something. Um, and I feel 156 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: like I've got time. You know, I've got a lot 157 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: of purpose in my life and and I've got a 158 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: lot going on and h And that was difficult with Krishelle. 159 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: You know, I went into that relationship honestly almost probably 160 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: maybe leaning more towards you know, the idea, but maybe 161 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought it through and I had you know, 162 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: Chris Shell didn't pressure me, and she was very honest 163 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: from the beginning about her walks and and just excellent. 164 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: I mean, she's just an excellent woman and was an 165 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: excellent partner and um, you know, and I and I 166 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: do regret that we weren't able to you know, work 167 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: out because I think it, you know, I think she 168 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: would have been great, But I I just have to 169 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: be honest with myself, you know, not to be cliche, 170 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: but I mean I really do. I don't want to 171 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: let society or anyone else, you know, um tell me 172 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: what's best for me. And I just felt like, and 173 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: feel like what's best for me is not having a 174 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: family right now, and maybe that changes in months, years, 175 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean never. I don't pretend to know the future. 176 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't even try to another future. But I think 177 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: I made the right decision. I love that. I mean 178 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: mad respect for that, honestly. For you to be able 179 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: to recognize that and put aside of relationship that you 180 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: were happy in because you weren't ready for something, I 181 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: think that that's great. It was only fair to her honestly, 182 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, and to yourself. I mean, I wish I 183 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: could have understood that before, you know, we fell in 184 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: love and how to go through the difficulty of breaking up. 185 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not trying not to be too 186 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: hard on myself. Sometimes I am, yeah, but I think 187 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where I mean, even like 188 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: when I've re entered the dating world from my divorce 189 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: from last year. It's like in my mind, I was like, no, 190 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: I'm never having a kid again. And I remember when 191 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: I dated someone like well I want a kid, and 192 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, but I but I don't. And then like 193 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: I've already have have two beautiful children. But then my 194 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: friends like, if you meet someone and they really want 195 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: a child, like you will be like, and I've I've 196 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: realized that now. It's like if I meet someone and 197 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: they and I'm really in love with this person, I 198 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: would probably be like, okay, like I'll try. I'll I 199 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: don't really want to, but like I will because you 200 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: love you don't want to lose that person. So I 201 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: don't know. But it's also like honoring yourself to like 202 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: what do you really want and what I really like? 203 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: Even want to track that again too, you know, so 204 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: for your sake, it's like that's not even you don't 205 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: really know that until you get into the relationship anyways. 206 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: So if any they don't beat yourself up with that, 207 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: because it's like, how can you know you don't You 208 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: have to try it on and if it doesn't suit 209 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: you and where you're at in your life, like that's okay. 210 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's the way I see it 211 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: as well. But it just you know, causing pain and 212 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: hardship and you know, uh, lost to someone that you 213 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: love like causing that is difficult, and knowing that that 214 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: you're just se Asian, uh is the cause of that. 215 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: It's difficult, no matter how much you tried to justify it. 216 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: Just it sucks. And then of course my own you 217 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: know pain, it was it was a process that was 218 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: more difficult than than I I I thought as well. 219 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: So I think I'm I think I'm getting my head 220 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: out of my ask though, and I think I'm starting 221 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: to you know, I feel a little bit better here. 222 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: Um So, I think honestly, oddly the reunion episode helped me. 223 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: I think that was a turning point for me. As 224 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: much as I wasn't looking forward to that reunion, Um 225 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: it was. It was oddly cathartic, and I think Chrisselle 226 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: and I are getting to a good place. And I 227 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: think that's kind of, you know, making my heart feel better. 228 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: Because he said he watched it and he was you 229 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: were emotional. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he definitely was. I think 230 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: it was great though, I mean, it seems like it 231 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: was good for you and for her, and it was 232 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, it seemed it seemed great. I wasn't just 233 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: watching it from my it was I mean we were 234 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: able to talk, you know, in between filming and afterwards 235 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: and subsequently, and you know, that was it was a 236 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: really helpful moment for us on screen and you know, 237 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: off screen. I mean, I know a lot of people 238 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: are probably asking about her new relationship. It was that 239 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: kind of like a did she tell you before it 240 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: went public? Or was that kind of a shock? Not 241 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: a shock, but was just like confirmed before that was 242 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: when the first time that was confirmed was then you 243 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: else that too, But um, I had and I thought 244 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: that something was going on, you know, um because she 245 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: had like a party that a lot of us. I 246 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: wasn't invited, but like everyone else was, and it seemed 247 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: like there was something going on. And then I just 248 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: kind of heard rumblings about it. Um. But you know, 249 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I in some ways, I mean it's kind 250 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: of helpful as well. You know, if she was single, Um, 251 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: maybe it'd be more difficult for me right now. I 252 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: honestly think it would be. So in some ways, I 253 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: think it's also a part of that, you know, cathartic. 254 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: You know, uh, resolution, that's a good point, that's true. 255 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: And I want her happy and she she really really 256 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: seems happy, um, and that that makes me feel better 257 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: and it makes me you know, it makes me happy 258 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: for us. So I think all of it honestly has 259 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: been good. So I'm happy with for her and I'm 260 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: I think maybe in some ways it's it's helped me too. 261 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: Is there any piece of you that's still kind of 262 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: struggling with something along those lines of just I mean 263 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: anything right now in your life, like you know that 264 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: you kind of feel like either unresolved or are you 265 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: just that like a really good place. I would say that, 266 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I'm a hundred percent moved on, 267 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, that would be ingenuous to say that. I mean, 268 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: of course there's feelings. I love her and I respect her, 269 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously I'm not with her, so you 270 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: have you know, I think they'll always be regrets about that. Um, 271 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: But I guess what's like, what's the regret that, like, 272 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: what's that piece you're holding onto and welcome to Welcome 273 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: to my couch. I think it's that, you know, it 274 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: was a beautiful relationship and I care about her deeply, 275 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: so you know the fact that I'm don't get to 276 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: experience that connection with her. It is just a loss. 277 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: So it's hard to explain. It doesn't mean that that 278 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: I made the wrong decision, doesn't mean that that I 279 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: that I that I feel like I want to be 280 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: back in that you know, relationship because of the situation, 281 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, the situation about the family. But yeah, you 282 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: can't avoid feeling a little bit of loss there and 283 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, probably even a little bit of what if 284 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's just human nature. I think 285 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: too always and it's like the road not Taking by 286 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: Robert Frost. It's like that you go down one path, 287 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: but you always think about the path that you didn't choose, 288 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: and that's just life. H I wonder what the difference 289 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: between loss and regret though, Like is there, Like I 290 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: think there's definitely a difference. Yeah, because it's good is 291 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: that you wish you had made a different decision. In 292 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: my opinion, loss is just feeling is that you made 293 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: the right decision, But it doesn't mean it was easy, 294 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that you aren't sad because you 295 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: couldn't take the other path. But when you said like 296 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: you would regret. I'm like about like because I just 297 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't use the word regret because I because 298 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: I don't want them like I don't as I'm like, 299 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: now you're friend, I don't want you to hold on 300 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: to regret, like, but if you do, like, let's release it. 301 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think regrets the right word. It's just, 302 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think there's always that that idea of 303 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: the other path and what it would be like I mean, 304 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: oddly enough that that's that poem is my favorite poem, 305 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: and it's moved me ever since the first time I 306 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: read it. I have it up on a neon sign 307 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: on my wall because I because life is literally just 308 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: about making looking on two different roads and choosing one 309 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: and always wondering what that other road would have would 310 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: have led to, like a practical geometry life in a way, 311 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: you know, you just keep branching off. Yeah, I know. 312 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: It is interesting because sometimes I think, like in past relationships, 313 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, if I would have just done this, 314 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: like would we would we have worked? Or And I 315 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: honestly think if it's not meant for you, it's not 316 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: going to stay, you know. And that's like where I 317 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: always have to remind myself, like there's some divine thing, 318 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: whether it's God or but I just where it's just 319 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: it's not. If it's meant for me, it will stay 320 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: and we'll work it out. Everything else is like it 321 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: will either God will take him away or like I will. Really, 322 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's just that's just kind of my 323 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: my thoughts with that. Yeah, why is it called a 324 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: wine down? W h I N Well, so good question. 325 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: Um it's not everybody drinks. And yeah, I was because 326 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: at first it started as like a mommy podcast, so wine, 327 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: but I love we love wine. But then it became 328 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: more of like a then so then we just yeah, 329 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: so it's just the story. Well it's a long, long story. Sure, 330 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: it's just mind. It's cool. I just wonder. I like 331 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: it when he interviews you back, Oh he did. I 332 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: was like, I was like, do you mind if I 333 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: get deep with you, you know, and ask you know, 334 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: some hard questions, And he's like, do you do you 335 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: mind if I ask some questions? I was like, sure, 336 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: do you have any do you have any other ones? 337 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: I know you only have a few more minutes. Can 338 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: I okay, I'll ask why you broke up with your 339 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: was it a husband? You only have a few more minutes. 340 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna really need to pick a different question coming 341 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: to l A, so you may just have to explain 342 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: it to me. I guess you were right, charming, little smiled. 343 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this is who you'd have to get past 344 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: if if we're you know, and you don't have to 345 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: get past like you're gonna have to get past nine women, 346 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: so we're oh, that's yeah, I think it'd be way harder. Honestly, yeah, 347 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: I think we've seen this movie before and end. Well, 348 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: but which one the one where we had to go 349 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: past nine girls? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah that didn't work 350 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: my ex Yeah, um okay, questions selling, Uh well, okay, 351 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: she's she's trying to divert. Let's talk about a little. 352 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: I haven't even watched it yet, so I do not 353 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: know anything about it. No one's watched it out for 354 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: was it not even out yet? Well then that's why 355 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: when does it come out? I don't know. I'm just 356 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: guessing like August September, but I'm literally guessing. I don't know. Okay, okay, 357 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: so what is is there a big difference between the two, 358 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: like your agents are. They're a lot different, they say, so, 359 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: there's some similarities, and it's it's another office that I have. UM, 360 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: and it's probably you know, learn number of agents, but 361 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: it's men and women, so probably about half and half. Um. 362 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: And they're they've also seen selling Sunset, so I think 363 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: they're even less you know, and they're just they let 364 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: it all hang out. I haven't watched it, but I 365 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 1: have a feeling it's gonna be very good. Um, just 366 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: based on what I've heard and based on talking to 367 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: Netflix and talking production is going to be really good. 368 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: So I'm excited. I'm actually headed down there in like 369 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: five minutes after we get off. UM. I love those guys. 370 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: I love filming. I really enjoy it. So UM, I 371 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: like Newport. Yeah, I know you have to go. Um, 372 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: but thank you so much for coming on wine down 373 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: and U h with an age. Thanks for your toe alright, 374 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: by bye. Well I had to say I was late. 375 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm sweating. Was it like that old? I mean not 376 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: really kind of towards the beginning, he just when she 377 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: asked if she could ask personal question, He's like, well, 378 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: can I are you single? That kind of like very 379 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: I liked it. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised at all. Oh, 380 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was just playing around, But I mean 381 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: it did kind of like me because I got like, 382 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: I got flustered, really flex because I was I know, 383 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: I was like, um, and he said we were going 384 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: to be in l A before he asked that question. 385 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: Shoot who Well, um, okay, I'm a little flustered. I 386 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: was like, we need to talk about I shouldn't. We're 387 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: done with bald guys. This looks similar. We gotta get out. 388 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, gracious. Um No, he seems really cool. 389 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: He seems like a cool dude. Well, he's a charming guy. Yeah, 390 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't honestly know much about him, sides 391 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: that he dated Crissell and then he like owns the 392 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: so Tim and his twin brother Okay, oh no Openheim 393 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: group Brett and are they identical? Yeah, Oh yeah I do. 394 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know that because I mean I've watched, Like honestly, 395 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: I started this past season because it was just like 396 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: there's so much buzz around it. But I was like, oh, 397 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it a 398 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: listen or watch. Um, And I thought it was really great. 399 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: The pregnant one is my favorite. I don't know her name, Christine. No, No, 400 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: that's the belly out and where's all these like super 401 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: little well Christie. If it's Christine, she's already had her baby. Whatever, 402 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: you're pregnant with the blond Christine and who left? Yeah, 403 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: pregnant on the show. But there's another one. I feel 404 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: like I need to come back and say, like, because 405 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that I said I didn't 406 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: like her, because I feel like I hate it when 407 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: people say that to me, like they don't like me. 408 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: But I just from the show, she always just seem 409 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: like she was kind of nasty to the other girls. 410 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: A lot of people feel that way. Yeah, and she 411 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: may have just been painted that way, you know, but 412 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: if you watch it on mute, you just like her. 413 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: You have to listen. No, I mean again, she's I mean, 414 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: she wasn't my favorite either, but I think that she 415 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: was kind of, like any reality show, kind of put 416 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: in that position and maybe not. I mean, I don't 417 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: know her personally, but it seemed to me she was 418 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: a little bit put in that position as to to 419 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: be the villain for you just have a bunch of 420 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: care bears that's not fun to watch, and the drama, 421 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: And there was definitely moments when she was you could 422 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: tell she had a hard time being vulnerable and dealing 423 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: with the fact that she was losing these friendships. And 424 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: there were moments that she was and I saw glimpses 425 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: of like I can tell she wants these friendships, but 426 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: she's fighting it too, you know what I mean. So 427 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't Yeah, it's not all bad. Well, 428 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: then maybe that was, and so I'm sorry I didn't. 429 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, because I because I get so mad when 430 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: people do that to me, when it's like they don't 431 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: actually they just but again, you're putting yourself out there 432 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: to be Yeah, yeah, it's part of the judge or criticized. Um, 433 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, that's just the That was kind of like 434 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: my first instinct when I watched some but I've only 435 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: watched a few episodes. Maybe I came into at the 436 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: very end where she hasn't been very charming. Well, and 437 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: like Jason said, he hasn't had a chance to even 438 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: sit down and talk to her about that situation with 439 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: the agent, So I think he handled it really well 440 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: and he's not going to sit here and say she's 441 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, wrong, without having hearing her side of the story. 442 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: So interesting, Well, no, I want to finish it. Um, 443 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we've back This is 444 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton. This week on the This is Paris podcast, 445 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: Nikki and I will be joined by Anna delve. You 446 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: may think you know her from Inventing Anna on Netflix. 447 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: Get to know the real Anna? Is she a con 448 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: artist and a fraudster or risk taking entrepreneur and audacious? 449 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: Wanted that Lover her or hate her? We're all curious. 450 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: The real heiress is sit down with the fake heiress 451 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: right now on This is Paris. Listen to This is 452 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: Paris now wherever you listen to podcasts. Okay, so where 453 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: are we at it is? Hey Kristen, Hi, where are 454 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: you at? Late late um to be in? I was 455 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: at home living that mom life, waiting on a sitter, 456 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: aren't we always? We? Sure are ran into Nick yesterday? Great? Yeah, 457 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that. It was really great. 458 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: I just want to compliment you guys again on your maturity. 459 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. Really great. He actually sent 460 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: me a really sweet message the other day, likely very sweet, 461 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: like just so thankful for how you're handling this with 462 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: such grace and like it was really sweet, usually sweet, 463 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: so I'm thankful for that. There's that I feel like 464 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: you had kind of like one of those first single 465 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: mama weekends where it was just and I was I 466 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: was kind of talking to Pam. We went for a 467 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: walk before I workout, and she to Catherine, I was like, no, 468 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: but I was like, I think she'd finally had that 469 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: moment where it's like right after the dust and then 470 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: you're like, you have to do all of it by yourself, 471 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: and it's a lot, because you came over to my 472 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: house on Sunday and you just looked like you've been 473 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: like just sat on the coups. She's like, are you 474 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: sad today? And I was like, well, first of all, 475 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: I did tell her this, like for people honestly like you, 476 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: not to put your husband down or pay them or whatever. 477 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: You know that their husband's travel a lot, they're used 478 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: to doing y'all are used to doing a lot on 479 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: your own. Yeah, but I've always had help, you know. 480 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: I mean, we've always been very you know, we all 481 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: were pretty fifty fifties take care of the kids. So 482 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: this was kind of like my first five days just 483 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: being the kids, and it was just like one thing 484 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: after another, like just going wrong. It was like little things, 485 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, and then the dog and diarrhea all over 486 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: the bedroom and just like you when I got crying, 487 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, dropped a bottle of whiskey and it shattered everywhere. 488 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: You know. It's just like one thing after another, and 489 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, just sit down to breathe, 490 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: that's fine. Did you cry, um, because I remember my 491 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: first like I'm trying to think, I think I cried. 492 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: I cried a little bit. Yeah, I did cry a 493 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: little bit after one of them. I don't even remember 494 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: at this point. It was a blur. It was probably 495 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: after the dog. If I had it, it was I 496 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: don't want to project my feelings onto you. Yeah, so yeah, 497 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: it was definitely kind of that first, but it wasn't 498 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: you know. It was also at the same time like reassuring. 499 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: It's like, I know I can do this on my own, 500 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: you know, And I know I can. It's just and 501 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: I never really had to, yeah, And it's just an adjustment. 502 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: And honestly, he's still helpful, and you know, he's taken 503 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: the kids to school, some even all my days and 504 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: so that's all good. I'm trying to figure out what 505 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: is easier verse harder in this situation because we kind 506 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: of had a little thing the other day. Can we 507 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: talk about that because I'm just because it's like and 508 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: I started to think about I'm like, man, what would 509 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: have been? Because obviously in my situation with with my ex, 510 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: it was now that people had to pick a side, 511 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: but I think everyone chose two. I mean, we chose you, um, 512 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: But in this situation, it's it's tough, right because he 513 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: didn't cheat on you, and he was you know, he 514 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: wasn't bad to you, and but he's now he's you know, 515 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: he's your ex. So it's like, but he's still our friend. 516 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: And so the other day, um, I had um Josh 517 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: Beach and um some che Grimes over and we were 518 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: hanging out and Josh was like, hey, Nick's gonna pop over. 519 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: Is that cool? And I'm like yeah, like yeah, but 520 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: but I would have never like and I wanted her 521 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: know like that, what did Josh know? But I mean, 522 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: like I just think he's like, you know, we're all friends, like, 523 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: and so it just kind of in my mind, I'm like, oh, shoot, 524 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: like I don't want Katherine to think that. I was like, hey, Nick, 525 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: come on over, like because I've hung out with Nick 526 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: and one on one since the divorce, but never to 527 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: like a pool party, you know what I mean. Like, 528 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: so it's like I didn't want but then it's like that, 529 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: like and then I knew that hurt you, and so 530 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: trying to find that balance and like, man, it's it 531 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: almost easier if it was just like pick a side. Well, 532 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, even though it's hard, and I told you, 533 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: I think one is I didn't know what was happening. 534 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: I think that was a little tough. And we're all 535 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: still a family on Life three sixty and I just 536 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: see that he's here, so it's like, oh man. And 537 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: then I saw that like Beach was here, and I 538 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: was like, man, I haven't heard from them, you know, 539 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: which is fine. He's closer to them, and again, I 540 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: want him to have those relationships. But I think that 541 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: I definitely had a moment of like, man, like my 542 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: friends are all hanging out and he's over there. I'm not, 543 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, but I don't want that. It's just also 544 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: kind of hard. I don't know, it's like this middle 545 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: like I don't want that, Like I want him and 546 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: Josh to be friends. Um, I want y'all to be friends. 547 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: You know. I think it's but you did ask, you know, 548 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: on the front end if it was okay if you 549 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: talk to him and stuff and myself of course, like 550 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: I want all my friends to talk to him. But yeah, 551 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: it does feel a little bit different, I think with 552 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: the hanging out situation. But that's also something I think 553 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: I just want to get past. I mean, that's where 554 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm at now, you know, I think that it's you know, 555 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: it's hard. I don't know, it's a hard situation. I 556 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: don't expect anyone to pick sides at all. Um, but 557 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: part of me is like, maybe he could have his 558 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: friends over here and I could have my friends over here. 559 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: So but we'll see, we'll figure out the groove. Yeah, 560 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: there's not an easy answer, honestly. Grief and gratitude at one. Yeah. Yeah, 561 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: And and I'm getting a tattoo of it on my hand. 562 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: Do you guys want to get a tattoo in Chicago 563 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: to sure? Will you? I got a little jealous. I'm 564 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I don't like that word. But you 565 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: guys are need tattoos and l a and oh, that's like, 566 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: let's do it. It's like a Michigan girl favorite pastime. 567 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't have any of them. Show you regret from 568 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: two thousands. There it is a butterfly. That's what I'm 569 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: getting right here when my dates are removed on my arm. 570 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: I just have one key advice to you, and that 571 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: is to judge your artist based on what his work 572 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: looks like and not what he looks like. Oh, my 573 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: eighteen year old mistake. Joey was awfully you. He pasted on, 574 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: but he looked like Joey Jo got a tramp stamp. 575 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: Give a tramp stamp? Am I forty or am my forty? 576 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: It's a product of my generation is Oh, it's horrible. 577 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: And every time every time my husband I are in 578 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: the shower, was like, tell me again, one, what is 579 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: it again? Let me see? Okay, I hang on, hang on, 580 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: I gotta give you a coup. I need to get else. 581 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: I didn't the other night of her wine. Do we 582 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: not remember this? No? I don't remember a lot from 583 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: that night. First it was stars and they were pink 584 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: and yellow and they meant something. I remember it being deep, 585 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: but I can't we don't remember. I don't remember. I 586 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: mean like people had lost. But I think because the 587 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: loss then was so I don't want to say like juvenile, 588 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: but I think it was like your high school swetheart. No, yeah, 589 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: shout out to Matthews. Um. Anyways, then I had a 590 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: colored in because I thought that would like to clean 591 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: it up. And so now with that being said, you 592 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: can look at my drum really something sramer. Oh my god, 593 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: it's a little smudgy. Why is the heart that star 594 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: is so close to that star? Well, I don't think 595 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: it used to be, but I think the skin has 596 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: gotten a little. I think the stars were like a 597 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: full I can't I can't really tell you. It's back there. 598 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: It's all behind me now, it's really back there. So anyways, 599 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: highwaisted who votes for highwaisted? This girl? Oh goodness gracious? 600 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well that's that ending it like this? Um yeah, 601 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: this is the end. We're ending, so um, happy ending, 602 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: Happy ladies and gentlemen. Christen Breast find us in Chicago. Um, 603 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be fun, it's gonna be great. Yeah, 604 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna get tattoos. Yeah, let's do it. Okay, alright, 605 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: guess bye