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Speaker 2: Let me get the old vocal cords, like ready to.

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Speaker 1: Go, Will's back. We're ending on a positive note.

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Speaker 3: Happy Friday Falcons fans, Welcome back to the Friday five.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Will McFadden. I'm joined by Tory mcaleney

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Speaker 3: and Taron Walk. I really want to thank you guys

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Speaker 1: You know, and a half or eight depending on the shoe.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, like I I can't film because you did such

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Speaker 3: a great job, Tarreen. Honestly like I enjoyed listening to

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Speaker 3: so we gotta figure that out. I gotta step my

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Speaker 3: I hope everybody enjoyed listening to Taran and Torre already

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Speaker 3: kind of iso without me, But I'm back, so you

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Speaker 3: awesome show. Kind of talking about where the Falcons go after,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the midst of their four game losing streak.

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Speaker 3: A rematch on tap. But as always, we're going to

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Speaker 3: start with our social question of the day, which we

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Speaker 3: for our listening audience here, So let's go give it

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Speaker 3: to us, Jared, all right, which is closest to midnight?

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Speaker 3: Is it A twelve oh one pm, B eleven fifty

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Speaker 3: fifty four PM, three two one D D No, No, no,

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Speaker 3: it's nice.

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Speaker 1: See it's s it's e Yeah, it is easy because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have never seen that before. That was apparently is.

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Speaker 4: It like I'm not on that side of social media?

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Speaker 4: Apparently I'm on I watch a lot of cop uh

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Speaker 4: it's just like it's all my TikTok. And so I

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Speaker 1: No, I know.

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Speaker 2: I watch these.

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Speaker 4: People get arrested and they're really like dumb people getting

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Speaker 3: And so what would be your go to move now

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Would you escape?

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Speaker 2: I know because I am a rule follower through and

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Speaker 2: through she cry, I would cry. I would burst into tears.

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Speaker 1: No lights are on, instant.

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Speaker 2: Tears like there would be no stopping.

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Speaker 1: It's not even her being pulled overry. It's literally two

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Speaker 3: And I'm sobbing because I have you gotten out of

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Speaker 3: I was only going a little over Terran. You seem

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Speaker 1: Quickly about midnight.

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Speaker 1: The vibe change from the first time the Falcons placed

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Speaker 4: honestly one of those things where in terms of what

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Speaker 4: But what Rico Daldell is still doing is I think

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Speaker 4: But he was talking about how essentially the Falcons have

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Speaker 3: So Taren, can you like, let's dig into some of

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Speaker 1: He started talking about the present day Falcons in a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I can get us back on track.

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Speaker 5: And so yeah, okay, which they wrote about anyways, But

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Speaker 4: And then you have Bryce Young and Michael Pennock Junior,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: Well can I I want to, But yeah, go read that.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those things where you look, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Matt Ryan had three four hundred and forty passing yards,

441
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Speaker 4: he had sixteen touchdowns, eleven interceptions, and an eighty seven

442
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Speaker 4: point seven passer rating through eight games in twenty twenty five.

443
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Speaker 4: Mike has eighteen hundred and seven passing yards on trajectory

444
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Speaker 4: to be around where Matt was at the end of

445
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Speaker 4: two thousand and eight, Mike has thrown nine touchdowns only

446
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Speaker 4: three interceptions, was technically as better numbers than what Matt

447
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Speaker 4: put up in his rookie season, and Mike has an

448
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Speaker 4: eighty six point eight passer rating, very close to Matt Ryans.

449
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 4: I know all of this because again, Matt Ryan was

450
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Speaker 4: named the Offensive Rookie of the Year that year after

451
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Speaker 4: the Falcons went eleven and five, they won a lot

452
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Speaker 4: of games, made it to the playoffs, and I think

453
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Speaker 4: that's the difference the team was winning with Matt at

454
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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 2: So I would.

456
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Speaker 4: Argue that potentially the ire wouldn't be as hot, the

457
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Speaker 4: seat wouldn't be as hot on Mike if the Falcons

458
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Speaker 4: as a collective unit we're putting together wins. Yes, Michael

459
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Speaker 4: Penis needs to be up to be better in certain situations, like, yes,

460
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Speaker 4: he needs to develop. All of those things are one

461
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Speaker 4: hundred percent true. But I don't want people to move

462
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Speaker 4: the goalpost on Michael Pinnix because let's be real, you're

463
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Speaker 4: mad at the coaches right now.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally. I think it's fair because, like, there

465
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Speaker 3: are plenty of times where I it feels like watching

466
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Speaker 3: the game, you're just like, oh man, this may not

467
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Speaker 3: be the best performance from Michael Pennocks, and then you

468
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Speaker 3: kind of look at the box score you want and

469
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Speaker 3: you're like, well, he's got one hundred and seventy two

470
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Speaker 3: yards at halftime. You know, he's got a touchdown pass,

471
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Speaker 3: he's got whatever. And it's like the way that it

472
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Speaker 3: looks doesn't always match up maybe with the final numbers,

473
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Speaker 3: but there's a lot to that. And I think that

474
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Speaker 3: the Carolina game, also the first time around, just the

475
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Speaker 3: way that he performed kind of stuck in a lot

476
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Speaker 3: of people's minds, and maybe that is something that they

477
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Speaker 3: just draw on when thinking about his play. Unfairly maybe,

478
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Speaker 3: but like it is fair because he showed it out there.

479
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Speaker 3: So now he has the chance to kind of redeem

480
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Speaker 3: himself on Sunday and put together a really good rebound performance,

481
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Speaker 3: and I expect him to do that. But let's really

482
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Speaker 3: quickly kind of pivot and talk about what the Falcons

483
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Speaker 3: stand to gain on Sunday with a win, or you know,

484
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Speaker 3: would they drop out of the playoff landscape. So, Taren,

485
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Speaker 3: what does the playoff landscape look like in the NFC

486
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Speaker 3: at this point in time?

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Speaker 2: Give us the lay of the land.

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Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of the lay of the land, I'm going

489
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Speaker 1: to address the NFC like a compass. Oh, never eat

490
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Speaker 1: Soggi waffles. Okay, The Lions lead the North, the Eagles

491
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Speaker 1: lead the East. The Buccaneers lead the South and the

492
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Speaker 1: Seahawks lead the West. Okay, those are your leaders. The

493
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Speaker 1: wild guard picture includes the Rams, Bears and Packers. The

494
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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, Panthers, and Vikings are the top NFC

495
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Speaker 1: bubble teams like right outside looking in, and when you

496
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Speaker 1: look at the NFC South specifically, because that's what matters

497
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Speaker 1: most of the Falcons right now, Bucks, as we know, lead, Panthers,

498
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Speaker 1: as I already said, second, the Falcons are third with

499
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Speaker 1: their three and six record. The Saints are fourth with

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Speaker 1: the two and eight record. Low key closing in or

501
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Speaker 1: the Falcons are falling back, but those records are getting

502
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Speaker 1: closer and closer to each other each time we share

503
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Speaker 1: this little update.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

505
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Speaker 1: So when we talk about the Falcons and Panthers game

506
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Speaker 1: in Week three, no other NFC South teams had played

507
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Speaker 1: each other at that point, just the Falcons and the Buccaneers.

508
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Speaker 1: Like the Falcons were two games into the NFC schedule

509
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Speaker 1: and no one else had played each other. But with

510
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Speaker 1: the greater sampler size sample size, here's all the divisional records.

511
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Speaker 1: Bucks two and oh, Panthers one and one, Falcons zero two,

512
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Speaker 1: Saints one and one. The Falcons have the worst NFC

513
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Speaker 1: South record right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know they they can change that in the

515
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Speaker 3: next two weeks because they've got the Panthers and the Saints,

516
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Speaker 3: you know, on tap. So this this stretch is very important.

517
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Speaker 3: You gave us the lay of the land, Torri, how

518
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Speaker 3: do they navigate it?

519
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So let me get the old vocal cords, like, ready.

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Speaker 1: To go my favorite thing and talk about numbers.

521
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Speaker 2: I'm about to go on a monologue.

522
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Speaker 3: Right the light. Let's let's put the studio spylight on touring.

523
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Speaker 1: That was so sweet, Dan, I'm ready for the numbers.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 4: So looking at the New York Times Playoff simulator, which

526
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Speaker 4: is a great tool. I think everyone should go and

527
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Speaker 4: check it out. It's very helpful, I think even for

528
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Speaker 4: us too, as we're trying to figure out how lay information.

529
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Speaker 4: The Falcons have just a five percent chance to make

530
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Speaker 4: the playoffs right now as everything stands with them being

531
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Speaker 4: three and six. If they go four and four the

532
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Speaker 4: rest of the way, even with wins against all three

533
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Speaker 4: NFC South opponents, that's not going to be enough. Given

534
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Speaker 4: the current trends of how things are looking. That would

535
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Speaker 4: put them at seven and ten on the year and

536
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Speaker 4: with less than a one percent shot at the postseason.

537
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Speaker 4: So that's that's if you lose all of your non

538
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Speaker 4: NFC South remaining games, that's that's where we're at. If

539
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Speaker 4: you add wins to that, however, over the Jets and

540
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals, the record will jump to nine and eight,

541
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Speaker 4: but it'll only get to get you to about a

542
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Speaker 4: thirty thirty two percent chance of making the postseason, so again,

543
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Speaker 4: still not good enough.

544
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Speaker 2: The real needle movers.

545
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Speaker 4: For you is the Rams game and in the Seahawks game.

546
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Speaker 4: So let's say the Falcons win nearly all of the

547
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Speaker 4: games I have previously mentioned. If you lose to both

548
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Speaker 4: the Rams and the Seahawks and still win those other games,

549
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Speaker 4: you're done, which is like, that's that's why them being

550
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Speaker 4: three and six right now is a real It's not

551
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Speaker 4: a death sentence, but it's not good. Split the Rams

552
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Speaker 4: and the Seahawks beat everybody else, you climb to about

553
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 4: eighty three percent chance. But all of this ultimately means that, yes,

554
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Speaker 4: the Falcons have to win and continue to win and

555
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Speaker 4: continue to win some more in order.

556
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Speaker 2: To keep hopes alive. You're to that point in the season.

557
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the wild card picture is not a friendly one

558
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Speaker 3: for Atlanta at this point in time. I mean, the

559
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Speaker 3: NFC is I think better than the AFC. Point Like,

560
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Speaker 3: the AFC has been a stronger conference a lot due

561
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Speaker 3: to the quarterback play in that conference, But I think

562
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Speaker 3: this year the NFC has been awesome. Yeah, and that's

563
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Speaker 3: where it may come down to. Its still the division

564
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: being in play. Like Tampa Bay losing last week, Carolina

565
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Speaker 3: losing last week, that helps, and Tampa's dealing with some injuries.

566
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Speaker 3: If those kind of ultimately creep up and hamper them

567
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Speaker 3: down the stretch when they have a tougher schedule, then

568
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Speaker 3: maybe the division is still in play for Atlanta and

569
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Speaker 3: that is always going to be their best right path

570
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Speaker 3: to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the easiest one in theory.

572
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anything else that we want to touch on with

573
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Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers game in particular before we kind of

574
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Speaker 3: pivot to our final topic.

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Speaker 2: You gotta win it.

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Speaker 4: I have nothing else to say but that if you

577
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Speaker 4: do not win again, it goes back to my main point,

578
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Speaker 4: like if you do not win that game, Like I'm

579
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Speaker 4: not saying your season is done, but it's it's a

580
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Speaker 4: it's getting to the point of being on ice.

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Speaker 1: I think she covered it all.

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Speaker 3: Right. Well, then let's let's move on to our final

583
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Speaker 3: topic for today's show. Just want to kind of give

584
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a shout out to the rookie class.

585
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Speaker 3: They're doing well, if they're doing amazing, Like this is

586
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Speaker 3: kind of the group that we when we were sitting

587
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Speaker 3: here kind of reflecting on the draft at the end

588
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Speaker 3: of April and looking at the hall, it was like,

589
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Speaker 3: all right, well, we know what we hope they can be,

590
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Speaker 3: but can they become that? And I kind of feel

591
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Speaker 3: like they are right now on the closer end of

592
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Speaker 3: like the top level of what we should have expected

593
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Speaker 3: from them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, we said going into the draft the Falcons needed

596
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Speaker 4: four five defensive starters yep out of the draft class

597
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Speaker 4: in order to feel good about where you were in

598
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Speaker 4: terms of your depth and talent defensively, and they absolutely

599
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Speaker 4: found that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, Terry, you want to catch us up on

601
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Speaker 3: how well they have performed this year.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Ed rusher Jalen Walker, who's drafted fifteenth overall. He

603
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Speaker 1: has played in seven games, made twenty five tackles for sacks,

604
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Speaker 1: two force fumbles, one fumbel recovery, and one pass breakup.

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Speaker 4: He's playing very well right now since coming back from

606
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Speaker 4: that groin injury that I think kind of lingered for

607
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 4: him a bit, and I love watching him play, but

608
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Speaker 4: I also love watching him play with James Pierce Junior.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of funny, you should mention the addresser. James

610
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Speaker 1: Pierce Junior was drafted twenty sixth overall. Has played in

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Speaker 1: nine games. He has made nine tackles, one and a

612
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Speaker 1: half sacks, one forced fumble, fumble recovery, and pass breakup.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I.

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Speaker 2: Can get I give a little tidbit. I just wanted

615
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Speaker 2: to say that about Jayleen Godogs.

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Speaker 1: You know, rewind quickto Jalen. He did win Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the Week honor last week from PEPSI. We're going to

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Speaker 1: say arrival, arrival, arrival.

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Speaker 3: Since we're playing Carolina this week, can we not mention

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Speaker 3: their names? Yeah, let's keep that attdge friendly.

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Speaker 1: We are Coca Cola Carolina things. Oh yeah, yeah, okay.

622
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Speaker 1: Xavier Watts drafted and drafted close, drafted in the third round.

623
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Speaker 1: Nine starts in nine games, so he's the only rookie

624
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Speaker 1: as start every game. He's played in fifty six tackles,

625
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Speaker 1: two interceptions, four pass breakups. He won NFL Rookie of

626
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Speaker 1: the Month for September. No sponsor involved. Billy Bowman, junior,

627
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick, one start in five games, twenty two tackles,

628
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Speaker 1: half a sack, one interception, one force fumble, two pass breakups.

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Speaker 1: Want to give him a little shout out right now, though,

630
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Speaker 1: because safety Jesse Bates the third, a veteran and captain,

631
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Speaker 1: named Billy as someone who has kind of like surprisingly

632
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Speaker 1: stepped up during this tough skid and been vocal.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: I love that, especially today.

635
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's especially considering that Billy missed four games coming

636
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Speaker 4: out of the bye because of a hamstring injury.

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Speaker 1: Apparently the hamstring injury has given him like perspective. Oh

638
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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, go Billy, go Billy.

639
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like Grady Jarrett said the same kind

640
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: of thing when he missed time. It's like, you do

641
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: get that chance to sip back. It's a little bit

642
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Speaker 3: like listening to the last couple of shows with you two.

643
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: I will cycle man. Wow. Yeah, I'm seeing things from

644
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: a new light. Yeah. But the Billy thing is awesome.

645
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: It helps, I think make clear why exactly they identified

646
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Speaker 3: these four guys as the ones that wanted to bring in. Jalen.

647
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Speaker 3: Walker has also been getting a lot of praise from

648
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Speaker 3: the coaching staff this week about his leadership, which was

649
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: something obviously we talked about in the draft process, but

650
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Speaker 3: to see it here in Atlanta, coming to Fruition is

651
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Speaker 3: really exciting. But I know a lot of people also

652
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Speaker 3: were scratching their head worried about the moving up to

653
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Speaker 3: go get James Pierce Junior again giving up next year's

654
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Speaker 3: first round pick. At this point, I kind of feel

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Speaker 3: like it was a pretty good goal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I I do too.

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Speaker 4: I thought that it was a good move at the

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Speaker 4: time too. I didn't understand the overwhelming anger anger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of consensus was like this was a bad.

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Speaker 2: Move, right, this is a bad move. It was bad trade.

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Speaker 4: It didn't it doesn't make any sense, Like why James

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Speaker 4: Pearce Junior. It was all of that, And I think, like,

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Speaker 4: but I I'm sitting here right now kind of feeling.

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Speaker 1: Like, Okay, you got your past right.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the thing is, like.

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Speaker 4: I understand like that the team doesn't have a first

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Speaker 4: round draft pick next year.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I think, honestly, I think it's okay.

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Speaker 4: I also think that's okay too, because I don't think

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Speaker 4: that you're gonna see a team that's gonna give up

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Speaker 4: down the stretch to like potentially have a higher draft pick.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter for the Falcons. It's like, yeah, you

673
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: need to. I think you'll see a team that's fighting

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Speaker 4: to the finish.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that. I don't know if that will

676
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Speaker 2: amount to wins.

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Speaker 4: I will say that, but this defense is gonna at

678
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: least do enough to keep you in games, and James

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Speaker 4: Pierce Junior is a.

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Speaker 2: Part of that.

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Speaker 4: I still believe that the twenty twenty five draft class

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Speaker 4: is one of the best draft classes of Terry font

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Speaker 4: Knows's career as a GM here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I think that that.

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Speaker 4: Is a number one, and I think it's a very

686
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 4: easy number one. I know people are mad about again

687
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 4: not having it, But what if you didn't have James

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Speaker 4: Bruce Junior, Like, what if you went into twenty twenty

689
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Speaker 4: six with a first round pick and got something someone

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Speaker 4: who didn't amount to much. Meanwhile, you have You see,

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Speaker 4: right now, the evidence is in front of you what

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Speaker 4: James Pearce Junior is doing for you.

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Speaker 2: He's producing for you.

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Speaker 4: You have two edge rushers that in back to back

695
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: weeks have made game changing plays.

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Speaker 3: So I think about what you just said, old, right,

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00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: think about what you just said. You have two edge rushers,

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Speaker 3: two of them, not just one two right, two, You

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00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: have made game changing plays in back to back weeks.

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Speaker 2: Right, correct.

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Speaker 4: And I'd argue, if the Falcons got Jay Walk and JPJ.

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Speaker 3: In Jaywalk, we're already Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think of my dad, Jeffrey Walk shut out to

704
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: the og J Walk right. Yeah, But no, I said,

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Speaker 4: I think if like you would have gotten Jalen Walker

706
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Speaker 4: and James Pearce Junior in back to back drafts instead

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Speaker 4: of the like, then I don't think I think people

708
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 4: would have said had nothing to say about that. I

709
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: think people would have been pumped about that, the fact that, like,

710
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 4: so you got them in one Like again, you're using

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00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 4: a future first round pick now because you believe at

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00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: the time of drafting that this was a team that

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00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: was ready to win. Now obviously they haven't won a

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Speaker 4: game in four weeks, so like, I get that kind

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Speaker 4: of goes out the window a little bit. Like does

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Speaker 4: it suck to to not have a first round draft

717
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: pick next year? Yes, of course I have to do

718
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: mock drafts. I'm gonna hate not being able.

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Speaker 2: To talk about the Falcons that your weeks and weeks.

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Speaker 4: But I also think it would suck not having James

721
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Speaker 4: Pierce Junior on this roster, so you can't have it all.

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Speaker 4: And I do believe the Falcons did what they thought

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Speaker 4: was best to win at now. It's not James for

724
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Speaker 4: Pierce Junior's fault that the Falcons aren't winning right now.

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Speaker 3: No, the defense is keeping them in games. Like we

726
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: talked about it, the story.

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Speaker 1: Has been holding that in. It seems like she was like,

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Speaker 1: let me get up on this box and preach why

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Speaker 1: JPJ should be here.

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Speaker 4: I'm I will not hear any more about the JPJ

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Speaker 4: trade slander.

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Speaker 2: I will not hear it.

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Speaker 3: The other reason why I think it's just impactful, right

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Speaker 3: is when you look at we talked a lot last

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Speaker 3: year after kind of Michael Pennick Junior's three games and

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00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: what he accomplished with Bajan and Drake, and the window

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00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: for Atlanta's like offense on these rookie contracts, well, that

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00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: window is naturally going to be closing over the next

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Speaker 3: couple of years as the rookie contracts come to an end. However,

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Speaker 3: it didn't take you four drafts to kind of compile

741
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Speaker 3: this young talent on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: You got that in one hit. So now when you

743
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Speaker 3: look at kind of the offseason and contracts and salary

744
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 3: cap and everything, like, I think there's such a benefit

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Speaker 3: in having these four guys at key positions on your

746
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Speaker 3: defense on rookie contracts. And we talked about that first

747
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: round pick. Two of them have that fifth year option,

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Speaker 3: and they're the two most valuable positions on the defensive

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Speaker 3: side of the ball. So I think that this rookie

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Speaker 3: class on defense is truly special. I don't want to

751
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: lose sight of that, even though again they're in the

752
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: mids half four game losing streak. Like, we can be

753
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: able to do both. We can all contain multitudes, we

754
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: can be better, and we can say, yes, they got

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00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: to be better on the field, and yeah, this class

756
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: is kicking button.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing is, I think like everybody works in

758
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: these absolutes, and like, I don't really feel like there

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00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: are absolutes. I think that there are two sides to

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00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 4: every coin. I think that two things can be true

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00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: at the same time, and this is like this conversation

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00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: is an epitome of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this well's back.

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Speaker 1: We're ending on a positive note.

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Speaker 3: There we go, bringing the optimism back. But yeah, let's

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Speaker 3: let's go ahead and wrap it there. Everybody please check

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00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: out the pregame show on YouTube. It goes up an

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00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: hour before kickoff. Kickoff is at one pm inside of

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Speaker 3: Mercedes Benz Stadium. The Falcons will try to avenge. They're

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Speaker 3: thirty to nothing lost and they they gotta do it right.

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Speaker 3: It is crunch time here. We are already at that

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Speaker 3: that point of the season, So open it up. Any

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Speaker 3: final things to say before we get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Taren Tarn is running a marathon.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Terren's running a marathon.

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Speaker 4: So everyone cheer Terran, aren't because it's she's been training

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Speaker 4: a lot for this. She even trained while we were

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Speaker 4: in Germany.

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Speaker 1: I ran nine miles in Berlin.

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00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then then we did a hold.

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Speaker 3: Or kilometers miles?

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Speaker 1: This is my homeland, I don't know America.

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Speaker 3: Kilometers is that though?

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to change my settings on my garment.

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Speaker 1: But how many ten k is? Six miles?

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Speaker 3: Five? All right?

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Speaker 1: About thirteen six seventy nine, so it's about thirteen K.

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Speaker 3: There you go. Okay, thirteen k, Well that is what

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Speaker 3: our show.

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Speaker 1: You're wrong.

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00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: Someone's gonna be like, no, it's not.

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Speaker 1: We learned Tory and I aren't good at math. We're

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00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: on the spot. No we're not. I need pen and paper.

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Speaker 3: Well then yeah, let's go ahead and not do any

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Speaker 3: more math on this show. But thank you guys so

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00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: much for listening. Please spread the word, like subscribe to

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Speaker 3: all of that, and we will see you after the

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Speaker 3: game four Falcons final whistle. We'll see you next week

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Speaker 3: Falcons Audible and Friday five one more time. So until then, everybody,

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Speaker 3: take care