WEBVTT - Mind Altering Effects of Simple Money Tricks #320

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and

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<v Speaker 1>that today we're discussing the mind altering effects of simple

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<v Speaker 1>money tricks. Maybe we should have called this with the

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<v Speaker 1>Psychedelic Effects of Handling your Money properly. I know, mind

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<v Speaker 1>altering does sound like we're going down another road, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about anything drug related here, No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just truly implementing some of these tricks is actually can

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<v Speaker 1>have significant effects on your brain and how your brain

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<v Speaker 1>thinks about money. Yeah, exactly. We started thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>episode and we realized we were specifically we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>some of these techniques or tricks that we can implement

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives. But what we realized we're so important

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<v Speaker 1>about these specific ones that we're gonna talk about today

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<v Speaker 1>is the impact that that it can have on our psyche. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it can completely shift the way that we think about money.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you have sort of this shift in the

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<v Speaker 1>like the undercurrent and you know, and how you've used something,

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<v Speaker 1>it can dramatically affect how it is that you go

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<v Speaker 1>about handling something like your money. And so that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna talk about today, buddy, no doubt. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to that, Matt, you just recently

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<v Speaker 1>told me about kind of this revolutionary way to to

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<v Speaker 1>dry out your phone if you dropped in the toilet,

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<v Speaker 1>which almost all of our listeners I'm sure you've done

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<v Speaker 1>at some point or another, or not dropping in the toilet.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about you specifically because you're talking about your

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<v Speaker 1>old phone. How easy, how he would just keep sticking

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<v Speaker 1>the end of it in his mouth. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>even for that, uh, this technique would work. Okay. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great, great thing that came across because

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<v Speaker 1>most people what they do if something like that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets a little wet or whatever people saying

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<v Speaker 1>that they do or tyler sticks in their mouth, they

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<v Speaker 1>put it in a bag of rice and a bowl

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<v Speaker 1>of rice or a bag of rice. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>do exactly. So the problem they work, okay, is if

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<v Speaker 1>it's well, if it's really wet, it can actually cause

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<v Speaker 1>more problems, right like if you've got water coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of like the port where it plugs in and can

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<v Speaker 1>get gooey, cause even more problems. But I came across

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<v Speaker 1>the step and they talked about how you know those

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<v Speaker 1>so when you get like a pair of shoes in

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<v Speaker 1>the mail or like try necks. Oftentimes it will come

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<v Speaker 1>with those those little packs a little silica gel also

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<v Speaker 1>known as desiccant packs. You know what I'm talking about, right, yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, So the kind that you're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>give to your infants, right, do not eat? Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not food, That's what it says on there. But

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<v Speaker 1>somebody was saying, how every time you get one of those,

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<v Speaker 1>take it, throw it in a ziploc bag or another

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<v Speaker 1>airtight container like a mason jar something like that. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then if you ever find yourself in a position

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<v Speaker 1>where you need to dry out your phone, a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of those in a sealed container is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>much much more effective at drawing out the moisture from

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<v Speaker 1>your phone, uh than a bowl or a bag full

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<v Speaker 1>of rice. You can actually buy these on Amazon, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you can spend like eight bucks and you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy like three hundred of those tiny things. Or

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<v Speaker 1>the fact is that we get them for free, and

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<v Speaker 1>so why not just instead of throwing them, you know

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<v Speaker 1>in the trash where it goes to a landfill, just

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<v Speaker 1>take those and save them. Uh. And you're asking what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when they get full of moisture, right, because it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like they would be ineffective. And what you do

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<v Speaker 1>is you take them, you put them on a baking sheet,

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<v Speaker 1>you stick them in your oven at a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty degrees for fifteen minutes and it dries them out,

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<v Speaker 1>so they get dry, let them cool, but then take

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<v Speaker 1>them and put them back in an air tight container

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<v Speaker 1>and then it'll definitely be good to go the next

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<v Speaker 1>time that as he sticks your new phone in his

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<v Speaker 1>mouth and completely use it up, Yeah, well, I'm keeping

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<v Speaker 1>it away from as much as I can. But now

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good tip man, and I think, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>prevents some waste. It allows us to use something that

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<v Speaker 1>we're already getting into our home in a way that's

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<v Speaker 1>more effective than the current way we're trying to do things,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least the current way I'm trying to do things.

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<v Speaker 1>By sticking it in a bag of rice. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. People do that, yeah, and especially with

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<v Speaker 1>young kids, we've had to do that a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>A remote even to like that's another thing that gets

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<v Speaker 1>wet or gets stuck in the mouth, and so there's

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of things like why is this so wet?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a problem here. Yeah, why is this not working? Probably? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he ate it, that's why. So all right, it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to know I'm gonna hold on to some of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's next to know that they're reusable too. I

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<v Speaker 1>like to think of it as sort of like a

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<v Speaker 1>first aid kit for your phone. Yeah, exactly, little emergency pack,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt. All right, let's mention the beer we're having

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<v Speaker 1>on the show today. This one's called Bound by Time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's by Edmund's past Visi Brewery out of Charleston, and

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<v Speaker 1>will give our thoughts on the speer at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the episode, but for now, let's get onto the

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<v Speaker 1>subject at hand. We're talking about the mind altering effects

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<v Speaker 1>of simple money tricks and Matt You know, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>recently about bigger money moves and how those can have

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<v Speaker 1>more of an impact on us financially than a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of small ones, right, like maybe two or three big

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<v Speaker 1>money moves. If you make those, it's probably gonna mean

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<v Speaker 1>more than a hundred smaller money moves at least when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the bottom line, right, or even one

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<v Speaker 1>big move, Yeah, if you pick the right big move,

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<v Speaker 1>like housing or something like that. Yeah, most definitely, it

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<v Speaker 1>could seriously have a dramatic, outsized impact compared to a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of smaller ones. Yeah, little tricks aren't always gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get us all the way to our money goals. There are, however,

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<v Speaker 1>some small techniques and tricks that we can implement to

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<v Speaker 1>handle money better that I think are going to make

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<v Speaker 1>a big difference over the years. They can change, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>our relationship to money in general. It's not just that

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<v Speaker 1>you'll say five bucks when shopping online today. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>these techniques are actually gonna allow us to read think

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<v Speaker 1>our overall approach to how we save and spend. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the powerful thing. It's not the money that you

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<v Speaker 1>save in the here and now this week. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>change in the way that you treat and think about

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<v Speaker 1>money that's going to have an impact for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of years to come, Yeah, potentially your lifetime. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the biggest argument too, for making some

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<v Speaker 1>of these smaller changes in your life when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to your money is that these these smaller tweaks. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they can be more attainable, right, it can be really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to implement, uh say, a new massive paradigm shifting

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<v Speaker 1>approach to your spending. It's difficult to go cold turkey

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<v Speaker 1>and change your ways on a dime, But by implementing

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<v Speaker 1>some small techniques and tricks, we're able to get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball rolling in. Those positive changes we make now will

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<v Speaker 1>continue to have outsize results down the road. Uh and

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<v Speaker 1>then almost you know, more importantly, you'll begin to view

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<v Speaker 1>your money in a completely new light. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're excited to discuss today. Yeah, all right, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>give a quick example of what this looks like. We're

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that we're not going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode is like the savings app Acorn. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a perfect example of a fintech product that uses

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<v Speaker 1>automation to trick us into saving more money, and that

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<v Speaker 1>works well for a whole lot of folks. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>extra money in their savings because they let Acorns round

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<v Speaker 1>up their purchases and save some money for them on

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<v Speaker 1>their behalf. But if you take Acorns away, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you have left? Well, a user is likely to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to their old ways because that app hasn't fundamentally

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<v Speaker 1>changed how they view their money. It certainly helped facilitate something,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't change anything deep down inside of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, they've essentially received monetary benefits without the mental

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<v Speaker 1>shift that you and I are going to be advocating

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<v Speaker 1>for in this episode. Not that Acorns is bad. Acorns

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<v Speaker 1>is still good, and we think automation is still good,

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<v Speaker 1>but we would say that there's something to take any

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<v Speaker 1>more of an analog approach when it comes to some

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<v Speaker 1>of these money tricks and the psychological benefits that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to that you're gonna see by doing so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes we can become overreliant on technology or

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<v Speaker 1>these apps, which is why, Yeah, an analog or a

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<v Speaker 1>manual approach, however you wanna want to describe it. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are certainly benefits we received from those. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like using GPS versus the old school maps

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<v Speaker 1>we got to use, right, versus knowing how to get

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<v Speaker 1>there exactly. Yeah, Like, and there are places I should

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<v Speaker 1>know how to get to by now, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>If I don't, it's there's some place just like fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>minutes away, and it's because you like, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>pull up the phone. Yeah, but if my phone is

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<v Speaker 1>dead or something like that, I'm out of luck trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to get there, and so I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's that's kind of maybe what we're duplicating

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<v Speaker 1>for here too, is to skip the GPS, figure out

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<v Speaker 1>in the analog world how to actually get to your destination.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's actually your reasons for doing that. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>deeper benefits that we receive. So for that reason, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want this to just be an episode that's about

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<v Speaker 1>the simple techniques that could allow us to spend less

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<v Speaker 1>and save more money. We're also going to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the mind altering effects that some of these simple modifications

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<v Speaker 1>can have on our personal finances. But we are all

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<v Speaker 1>about automation again. You know, we we dedicated an entire

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<v Speaker 1>episode on it, that was episode one, six one, But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it can lead to behaviors that aren't rooted in principle.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, for that reason, we're gonna get a

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<v Speaker 1>little more kind of manual versus uh, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>less automation in this episode because we're we're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>that lasting mindset shift. Yeah, and when you have a

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<v Speaker 1>shift in mindset, you'll see the effects in your saving,

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<v Speaker 1>your spending, in your investment plans. And these are changes

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<v Speaker 1>that I think that anybody can benefit from, whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>just getting started with personal finance, and maybe you're new

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast, or you are getting closer to financial

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<v Speaker 1>independence or closer to retirement, whether you've been handling your

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<v Speaker 1>money well for decades, Implementing a couple of these tricks

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to discuss can have a big impact

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<v Speaker 1>on your relationship with money, whether you're good with money

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<v Speaker 1>already or not. Yeah, and again, you know, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that we're focusing on these smaller changes and how they

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<v Speaker 1>can have a big impact on how it is that

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of view our money overall is because it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of goes back to the psychological payoff, right, And so,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you said, you'll, regardless of where you are

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<v Speaker 1>on your personal finance journey, when you're able to see

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<v Speaker 1>immediate results like that always feels good. You get that

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<v Speaker 1>small dopamine release by accomplishing maybe a relatively minor task,

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<v Speaker 1>But those small tweaks you make can really add up.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the reason why our seven Money Gears starts

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<v Speaker 1>with the simplest task of getting money in the bank

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<v Speaker 1>for an emergency fund. Of course, you get the immediate

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<v Speaker 1>result of a little more financial margin, but then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you know this deeper shift begins to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden you're a saver, which gives

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<v Speaker 1>you the confidence then to move on to the next gear.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about maintaining that momentum. Yeah, And what's great

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of these techniques and tricks is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we can implement them as kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>spending and saving rules. That way, during moments of financial temptation,

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<v Speaker 1>which we all have when we're really actually put to

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<v Speaker 1>the test, we don't have to try and decide in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment whether this is a good decision or not

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<v Speaker 1>because we've previously made the decision already. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's really helpful to folks because when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the moment whether or not you're gonna eat dessert, well

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<v Speaker 1>have you? Uh? I mean, you're gonna choose yes, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you've made a decision beforehand, but it smells so good

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<v Speaker 1>exactly that you're not gonna do it. It's helpful to

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<v Speaker 1>have decided how you're gonna respond during moments of clarity,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're setting goals towards the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>versus when you want to buy something in your judgment

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<v Speaker 1>might be clouded. When I'm smell the scent of cookies

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<v Speaker 1>wafting from the kitchen, It's gonna be harder for me

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<v Speaker 1>to say no to that than if I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>written something down previously and I've come to the conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not doing dessert this month, right, Yeah, so true, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to be the scent of fresh baked chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>chip cookies. By the way, I'm not saying I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna say no, yeah exactly, And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm eliminating dessert. I'm just saying, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if if someone theoretically pathetically for for somebody else, Yeah, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of makes me just think of a budget.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The reason you create these categories is so

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't really have to think about it in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. You're kind of reaching the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>month and you're thinking about maybe getting some more take out. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be really easy to convince yourself to get

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<v Speaker 1>more take out if you don't want to cook dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you can look at your restaurants or take

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<v Speaker 1>out category and if you've only got like five bucks left,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna get you very far trying to cook

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<v Speaker 1>some food at home, maybe pull out some leftovers, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about taco bell takeout. Dude, I would totally

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<v Speaker 1>eat taco bell if we had one around us. We're

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of like in this taco bell desert. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever realized that there are no taco bells near us?

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't really thought about that because I wasn't worried

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<v Speaker 1>about it, But now you are, I am exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, uh, in a sense, kind of these techniques

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<v Speaker 1>and these practices are a good way to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>remove some of that mental fatigue that sometimes accompanies making

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<v Speaker 1>these financial decisions. And so, you know, this is why

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<v Speaker 1>we're dedicating an episode to these simple personal finance techniques.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be more effective to completely dominate some of

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<v Speaker 1>these smaller tasks than to just slog away towards an

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming goal like retirement that you know might be thirty

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<v Speaker 1>to forty years away. But then along the way, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>begin to alter how it is that we think about

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<v Speaker 1>our money, you know. And so we'll discuss some of

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<v Speaker 1>these specific techniques of these tricks that you can implement

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<v Speaker 1>in your life right after the break, all right, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about simple money tricks and how they can

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<v Speaker 1>have a mind altering effect. And Matt, let's get straight

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<v Speaker 1>into some of the tricks that we think can be helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these you might have heard of before, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna kind of give a deeper explanation for why

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<v Speaker 1>you think they're important and why you should consider trying

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of these tricks out. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>again because you might say five bucks today. It's because

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<v Speaker 1>it might alter the way you view your money. It

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<v Speaker 1>can change the way you save and spend. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that we think is worth considering is

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<v Speaker 1>instituting a no spend week or even a no spend month.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a technique that can help you reconsider

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<v Speaker 1>your spending through forced absence. At the very least, setting

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<v Speaker 1>aside a week to not purchase a dang thing can

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<v Speaker 1>save you some real money, but that time spent not

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<v Speaker 1>purchasing can lead to questioning the way you think about

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<v Speaker 1>spending money in the first place. And this is good right.

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<v Speaker 1>It raises our awareness level to spending that might have

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<v Speaker 1>become second nature and that needs to be questioned in

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<v Speaker 1>our life. Instituting a period where you are forcing yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to curb all of your spending can really shake things

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<v Speaker 1>up in a meaningful way. Yeah, so that's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point of doing this, right. You know, you can change

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<v Speaker 1>this up and enforce a note, maybe takeout challenge for

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<v Speaker 1>a month straight, no taco bell for at least a month, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no problems taco bell because you know. Or you can

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<v Speaker 1>make yourself drink at home coffee like say, for six

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<v Speaker 1>weeks straight. You know, whatever you choose, forcing yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>change your spending habits reinforces the fact that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to continue to do the things the way that

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<v Speaker 1>you've always been doing them. So in this way, money

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<v Speaker 1>challenges can be a great way to catalyze action and

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<v Speaker 1>ramp up your ability to save. In addition to that,

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<v Speaker 1>you add to a little bit of accountability, maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>friendly competition, and you're definitely gonna be well in your

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<v Speaker 1>way to Yeah, spending less money and saving more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and no spending challenge with a friend like better, I think. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have somebody in your life who is striving

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<v Speaker 1>after the same goals that you are, you're both gonna benefit, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it makes me think of in high school, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a high school government US government class, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and me and my buddy John, we're both in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and neither of us were that great of students, but

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, uh, we we just got into this

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<v Speaker 1>competition to see who could just outperform the other person. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I have never done so well in a class in

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<v Speaker 1>all of high school even college, like in my entire

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<v Speaker 1>life than in the government class. I mean literally, we

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<v Speaker 1>were acing every single pop quiz, every single test. We

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<v Speaker 1>were getting one hundreds. Uh. And like our teacher, she

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<v Speaker 1>thought we were cheating. She thought we had some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of racket going on. But it was just because like him,

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<v Speaker 1>like we were just really competitive. He like lived down

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<v Speaker 1>the street from me as well. And for us, we

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<v Speaker 1>had this mental shift where these lackluster students all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, we're able to turn a page and we

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<v Speaker 1>became amazing students. And it all came down to how

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<v Speaker 1>it was that we viewed, uh, that specific class. We

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to I'll do the other guy, and it led

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<v Speaker 1>to us being able to do much better in that class. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the effects are real and meaningful when you have like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of friendly competition going on. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good way for people to approach this.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes more fun to You're like, it's not purely

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<v Speaker 1>utility based. I think a competition adds a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun and intrigue to the process. Uh, it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of spicy. Yeah, it does. Some folks to have

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<v Speaker 1>done like a complete no spend year. There's an author,

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Flanders who wrote about her year of not buying

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<v Speaker 1>new stuff in a book called The Year of Less

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<v Speaker 1>matt Our friend Katie Wolke Stanley doesn't buy new stuff

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<v Speaker 1>at all ever. True. I saw her fixing a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of her old Birkenstocks the other day and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like just mad impressed every time, Like with what you

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<v Speaker 1>post on Instagram, scored some of that guerrilla glue in

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<v Speaker 1>there and they go exactly and more power to these folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if you want to give something that big a try,

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<v Speaker 1>go for it. It's intense, but curbing spending for a

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<v Speaker 1>shorter period of time definitely has some advantages to It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be taking on some new lifestyle mantra.

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<v Speaker 1>It really can be just a weaker or a month

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<v Speaker 1>that shows you that you actually do have the willpower

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<v Speaker 1>to resist some of the things that were natural urges

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<v Speaker 1>in your life. Um, you really can avoid some of

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<v Speaker 1>the spending that came so naturally. It's just important to

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<v Speaker 1>prioritize implementing a period of time where you abstain altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that does have effects that go beyond

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<v Speaker 1>just the money you saved during that specific period of time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And similarly, creating sort of this mandatory weight period before

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<v Speaker 1>buying anything new is another way to to curb spending

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Right, you know, there are items that that

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<v Speaker 1>seem like they're totally necessary in the moment, but if

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<v Speaker 1>we have a seventy two hour rule, it can help

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<v Speaker 1>us to truly assess whether or not it's a good purchase.

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<v Speaker 1>Chances are you even forget about that item also together,

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<v Speaker 1>or it will you know, languish in your shopping cart

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<v Speaker 1>at an online store. But you know, if three days

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<v Speaker 1>later you still want or you still need that item,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can finish that purchase at that point. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, this kind of makes me think about

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<v Speaker 1>our episode that we had with Joshua Becker about minimalism.

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<v Speaker 1>This was episode one eight seven. It's not about saving

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<v Speaker 1>a few dollars here and there. It's not about saying that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not spend money for a week, because then if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't make any change, if there's no deeper change

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<v Speaker 1>that happens in your life, well you're gonna make up

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<v Speaker 1>for all that spending two weeks later. It's just like

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<v Speaker 1>the economy that you know, economists are predicting that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be insane. Pentup demand is there because it's

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<v Speaker 1>there exactly. But hopefully this period of time has allowed

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<v Speaker 1>some people to truly look at their lives and say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>travel is the big thing, right uh, that that we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to partake in. But hopefully there will

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of folks who are like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually pretty happy not traveling, Like I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to go on that fancy vacation. And so that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're challenging people to do, you know, with either no

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<v Speaker 1>spend challenges or at least by just delaying their purchase

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<v Speaker 1>for just a little bit. Yea. And in the case

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<v Speaker 1>of our episode with Josh Becker that you mentioned, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more about living more of a minimalistic lifestyle. He's less

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<v Speaker 1>about the money you saved, and he's more about the

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<v Speaker 1>lifestyle you want to live and being proactive and not

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<v Speaker 1>bringing too much junk into your life because it clutters

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<v Speaker 1>things up. And so yeah, maybe that's part of the

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<v Speaker 1>realization too. When you have a seventy two hour rule,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need all this stuff. It's it becomes less

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<v Speaker 1>about the money and it becomes more about doing things intentionally,

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<v Speaker 1>um and not bringing things into your life that are

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna weigh you down. There's there's a host of

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<v Speaker 1>benefits aside from just the monetary benefits. Right, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can change your views around consumption, then I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>got the potential to delay consumeristic tendencies, not for just

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<v Speaker 1>a few days, but for a lifetime to really make

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<v Speaker 1>a lasting change. Let's bring up another one to Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>People should consider the trick of using cash instead of

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<v Speaker 1>plastic when possible. You're you and I are obviously fans

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<v Speaker 1>of responsible credit card use. But since we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>techniques that are gonna help us spend and save better

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<v Speaker 1>as well as change the way we think, using actual

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<v Speaker 1>dollar bills has a legitimate effect on your spending habits.

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<v Speaker 1>Paying with credit cards allows you to score cash back

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<v Speaker 1>and travel rewards, which is great, but studies show that

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<v Speaker 1>it's us painful to swipe your card through the credit

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<v Speaker 1>card reader, or I guess you're not swiping anymore, you're

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<v Speaker 1>inserting with the chip right. But sometimes that the chip

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<v Speaker 1>reader is broken though, and they're like it, just swipe,

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<v Speaker 1>just swipe. But it's it's easier to do that than

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<v Speaker 1>it is to pull money out of your wallet. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels more real in essence when you're pulling cash out

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<v Speaker 1>and feeling that pain is exactly the trick that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to play on your brain. If you're looking to

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<v Speaker 1>curb your spending, you can also do something else, because

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<v Speaker 1>credit card rewards are meaningful and they're good. You can

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<v Speaker 1>keep a check register um with you, But to duck

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<v Speaker 1>the amount out of your bank account every time you

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<v Speaker 1>make a purchase with a credit card, at least you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing something physical to acknowledge that money is actually leaving

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<v Speaker 1>your account. You're you're seeing your bank account balance dwindle

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<v Speaker 1>every time you make a purchase, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>another good way to to reinforce and feel kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the pain of spending in the moment. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>write it out by hand like in an old school

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<v Speaker 1>uh checkbook register, but that's exactly what I do when

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<v Speaker 1>I manually reconcile my credit cards on Excel. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's lots of services out there where you

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<v Speaker 1>can link up your finances, you know, with your credit cards,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, have it all automated, but the actual

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<v Speaker 1>process of me inserting it and and typing it out

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing that, like, oh, actually that that date night

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<v Speaker 1>was really expensive, but has an impact on the next

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<v Speaker 1>date night we take. You know, it'll be we talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll have to drive across town. Though they get

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<v Speaker 1>that being in rice Burrito, which is, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the cheapest and most calorie dents item they sell good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I think it's the healthiest too. Maybe not,

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<v Speaker 1>though I don't know. I'm honestly probably compared to It's

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<v Speaker 1>like for the Dorino's locals taco you know, is this

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<v Speaker 1>a taco or is am I just like a bag

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<v Speaker 1>of chips, but like bag of Dorito's. Man, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a way to help you make a better decision

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<v Speaker 1>when you are making a bigger or an out of

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<v Speaker 1>the ordinary purchase. An effective way to determine whether you

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<v Speaker 1>can afford that item or not. A good question to

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<v Speaker 1>ask yourself is can I also put the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>this purchase in an I ra A And if the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is no, then we're suggesting that you might want

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<v Speaker 1>to forego that purchase until you can. Yeah. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>give an example to drive that one home. Matt. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you're looking to buy uh some air pods for

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred bucks. I think that that's what they cost Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>roughly two h bucks. Well, only go through with that

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<v Speaker 1>purchase if you're willing to stalk away another two into

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<v Speaker 1>an investment account. So that's a total of four h

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<v Speaker 1>bucks coming out of your savings. It can provide a

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<v Speaker 1>more realistic view of your actual financial health. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do both, then you probably shouldn't be doing either.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a technique I think to balance spending

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<v Speaker 1>and investing for your future at the same time. I

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<v Speaker 1>found this to be a really helpful trick that helps

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<v Speaker 1>maybe inhibit my desire for the new or bigger, more

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<v Speaker 1>expensive things, because I'm like, man, if I'm gonna do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I'm gonna put some I'm gonna put the

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<v Speaker 1>equal amount of money away for my future. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm just not ready to do either, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I am ready to do both. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>it can be a helpful way to at least think

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<v Speaker 1>about those bigger purchases. And if you implement something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>what's great about that is that that's an example of

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<v Speaker 1>one of those rules. Right. It's not something that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to think about. It's just something that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to execute on. I'm not saying that it's easy, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you've subscribed to that rule and you know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that you want, you continue to do. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no sort of deciding, you know, how you're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's like I'm either gonna do it or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna do it. But then, of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>long lasting implications of this too is not just the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to save a little bit of money now, but

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<v Speaker 1>it it does help you to rethink your purchases. It's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>am I only gonna put money away towards uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know this sort of special thing, this one off, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the ordinary expense? Or am I instead going

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<v Speaker 1>to prioritize investing for the long haul. Just like with

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<v Speaker 1>all these techniques, we're trying to introduce ways for you

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<v Speaker 1>to reframe how it is that you're thinking about your money. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the same is true too for recurring expenses.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you cut a recurring expense, increase your

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<v Speaker 1>retirement contributions by that same dollar amount. Uh. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about luring your cell phone bill or shopping

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 1>with insurance providers to get a lower rate, But don't

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<v Speaker 1>just absorb about money into your life and start spending it.

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 1>A great technique here is to ramp up what you're

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<v Speaker 1>saving for retirement and to push those savings directly into

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<v Speaker 1>a retirement account. You know. And and and so, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go from a seventy five dollar a month

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<v Speaker 1>down to a twenty dollar cell phone plane, which is

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<v Speaker 1>totally it, Like that's totally possible. Uh, take that fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five and then funnel it into your wrath I ra A. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to reframe some of these expenses. Right, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not just saving fifty five dollars, you're in fact saving

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<v Speaker 1>over one dollars. Like you need to see that my

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 1>net worth is going to increase by two times that

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<v Speaker 1>amount that I'm saving because I'm going to take that

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<v Speaker 1>money and invest it. It's not just about saving, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about creating a positive return as well for sure. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's talk about another trick I think that

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<v Speaker 1>can help us when when it comes to how we

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<v Speaker 1>think about our money. And another technique that you can

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<v Speaker 1>employ is to set up a completely separate checking or

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<v Speaker 1>saving account for a specific goal, like saving for a

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<v Speaker 1>down payment on a house. By essentially creating a fence

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:43.399
<v Speaker 1>around that money, by siloming it off into you know,

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 1>another institution, you're also creating a mental barrier that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep you from tapping that money for other reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>At the very least, you can use something like savings

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:55.159
<v Speaker 1>buckets within your current checking or savings account ally has

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<v Speaker 1>just an awesome buckets feature if you have an account there,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is something to the fact of you go

0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.879
<v Speaker 1>in there and you're like, well, that money set aside

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<v Speaker 1>for my vacation this year, that's gonna be really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that we can fully fund that.

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>And you pull money out of there to buy some

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of disposable product now or a new item of

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 1>clothing because their pods exactly, you're you're taking money from

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<v Speaker 1>that vacation that you really want to go on, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it feels like you're robbing yourself almost in another

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<v Speaker 1>area of life, and you actually kind of want to

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<v Speaker 1>feel that I think, I think if you do set

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<v Speaker 1>things up in that way, that's exactly the effect that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going for with this money trick. Is you want

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<v Speaker 1>to feel like that money is named for something specific,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't want to ruin your ability to enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>that future thing you're saving for in order to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for something right now. Yeah, And so by naming your money,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully there's this lasting, lifelong shift that's that's taking place, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that you are approaching your money with a plan.

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>By giving it a name, it means you have a

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<v Speaker 1>plan for it, right, And so if you were to,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, if you were to take from that,

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you're basically going against your plan and so hopefully you

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<v Speaker 1>would feel some cognitive dissonance at the very least. Right,

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm robbing myself like, like, wait a minute, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a plan, but what happened to it? And so we

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<v Speaker 1>think that by just doing this simple thing, it would

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to allow you to to be more effective

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<v Speaker 1>at reaching your financial goals. Yeah, by naming your money,

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it makes it much more likely that you're actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to reach those more important, further off goals that you

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 1>have set for yourself, and oftentimes those are the more

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful goals, those are the those are the goals that

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 1>actually resonate with us. That's why we called them out,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we dedicated a bucket to it in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. And we are in most cases not going

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<v Speaker 1>to rob ourselves of that future goal and destination just

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<v Speaker 1>for something small and trifling, uh, in the meantime, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and and so, yeah, I think naming the money helps

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<v Speaker 1>us realize that's what we're doing, whereas that is what

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>we're doing when we haven't named our money. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>harder to visualize that, it's harder to realize that. So

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<v Speaker 1>siloing your money can actually have a really big impact

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<v Speaker 1>on your ability to keep going after those bigger goals

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<v Speaker 1>that you have. Yeah, so you said siloing and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about naming our money. It actually makes me think

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<v Speaker 1>of like a farm. Yeah, it kind of does. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like on a farm, like you hear stories about when

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<v Speaker 1>there's kids and they like name the chickens or they

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<v Speaker 1>name like, I don't know, the pigs or the cows

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.400
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. It makes it a little bit

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>harder to actually butcher them and use them for what

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>they're being produced for, because there's more of an attachment

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and so aside from your dietary preferences, when

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you have money that has a name on it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more precious, right, It's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more sacred. You want to make sure that you are

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<v Speaker 1>being very intentional, like when the time does come to

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<v Speaker 1>tap that resource for whatever it's being you know, set

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<v Speaker 1>aside for you want to make sure that it counts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bacon is great, but it's different if it's Wilbur. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just don't want to do that. This is

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<v Speaker 1>coming from somebody who knows nothing about farms, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like when you name something, it has

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<v Speaker 1>more meaning. And so that's what we're talking about you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just thinking about Chlott's web like legit, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Wilbur had a name. He and Fern loved him. That's

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a great story. But yeah, Matt, we've got a few

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>more mental tricks to get to that are gonna help

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>people implement solid money habits for decades to come. Let's

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>get to a couple more of those right after this

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<v Speaker 1>break al right, we are back in. Let's go ahead. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some actions to take that will lead to,

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, some more mental shifts that will help you

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<v Speaker 1>to spend and save better and just to have a

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>better relationship towards money in general. Uh. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>these that we want to recommend for folks to do

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<v Speaker 1>is to when it comes to financial meetings or talks

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<v Speaker 1>that you might have with a significant other, make sure

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that you're having those meetings with your favorite beverage in hand.

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 1>This is something that we've taken to heart. And every

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<v Speaker 1>time you and I sit down and talk about money,

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna crack open a craft beer. It's what we do.

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>And it's not that I wouldn't want to talk about

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>money anyway with you, buddy, but having a beer at

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it just makes me all that more

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>uh jazzed about doing it. It It makes us look forward

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>to it exactly. Yeah. You so you know, of course,

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>you want to do all the boring and necessary stuff

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>like you know, having it on the counter. So you

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<v Speaker 1>stick with having these meetings regularly jointly if you have

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a significant other, but make a plan to share an

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>excellent beer or a bottle of wine while having your

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<v Speaker 1>regular budget meeting, or just not a coke with coffee.

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I had one of those recently. Not very good. Really.

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:05.919
<v Speaker 1>It's like a brand new thing, that coke. But if

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't like like alcohol or drink alcohol, you should,

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, find another beverage that you like, but just coffee. Yeah,

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>so is it called coke with coffee? Because way back

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 1>in the day in college it was called coke black. Yeah,

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>now it's called coke with coffee, I think, and black

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>with a K. It wasn't great. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah,

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I know you love your coke, so but do get

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<v Speaker 1>whatever beverage it is that's going to make you excited

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>about that meeting, right, and you know you could even

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>like play a board game or watch an episode of

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 1>your favorite show afterwards. Sticking to a budget like that

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>can be painful enough as it is, so at the

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>very least, you can make your money conversations and planning

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>meetings a lot more fun. Just this one act creates

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>a real change in perspective to how most people view

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>money conversations. Man, I think we've talked about this before,

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>but we're trying to get our kids to clean up

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 1>if you make the game, then it changes the whole

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>dynamic of cleanup. But if you make it a race,

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.919
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna try to beat each other out, exactly. I mean,

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>there's all sorts of ways to make boring, routine things

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot more fun. And I think it's the same

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>thing with a budget meeting. And yeah, the right beverage

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>can set the right tone for it. Maybe even lad

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:11.239
<v Speaker 1>of candle who knows, yeah, exactly, make it romantic. That's fine. Uh.

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.679
<v Speaker 1>And then, like, paying most of your bills automatically is

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a great idea right where we're all about automation, but

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>putting all of your bills on auto pay might not

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>be the best idea. And I'll tell you why. That's

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>because we often don't pay attention to the bills that

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>change based on our usage. I'm specifically talking about monthly

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>utility bills. One bill that Matt I personally don't put

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>on autopilot is my power bill. I refuse to do

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 1>budget billing, even though they always prompt me for it,

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and I don't put it on auto pay either. I

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>want to feel the pain. I want to see how

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>large my bill is, and then I want to take

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>forty five seconds to actually pay it. Just this physical

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>act has a real effect on like my interactions with

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the thermostat, my choice to put on a jacket instead

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>of turn up the heat, all that kind of stuff. Man,

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>So I got my long John's on right now, man, right, Yeah, exactly.

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>But there's something about like the smooth out nature of

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.959
<v Speaker 1>budget billing and and having it on automatic pilot, having

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>those payments um just come out of your account automatically,

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>where if you're one step removed from the actual money

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>it's costing you. And so this is one instance where

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<v Speaker 1>I say no way to automation, and I'm going to

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>pay that one every single month because I want to

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>see what I'm using and I want to feel it viscerally,

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and and there is a direct impact in my behavior

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>because of it. Yeah. Of sometimes things like budget billing

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>or relying over relying on an app or something like

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>that can desensitize us either to what we're spending or

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>it can completely remove some of those benefits that we

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>would receive by looking at the price. Right And one

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>of the benefits in this case too, is just using

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>less energy overall. Another trick that we want to recommend

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>for folks to consider is to think of the sticker

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>price in terms of hours of work to buy something

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that you're interested in buying, right, and so this one

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>requires you to know your hourly rate. We did an

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>entire episode on this, This is episode nine. Uh. Knowing

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>your hourly rate is crucial to be able to do

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the quick math. But thinking of a purchase, say as

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe half of your work day, that might put things

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>in starker terms. You know, you're gonna ask yourself, do

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I really want that gadget or you know, or that

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>new clothing item if it takes that much effort for

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>me to actually receive it. You know, we talked about

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the dining scream, paying and cash and paying with the

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>credit card. Paying with the credit card is easy, easier, Right,

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>it feels you don't feel that you're being parted with

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>your money in the same way. Well, you feel even

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>more like you're being parted with your money when you

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>think about it in terms of how many hours of

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>work it took you to be able to buy that item. Right,

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>And so maybe you're gonna think twice about that sweet

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>backpack because you're like, dang it, that's three and a

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>half hours of work and it's not worth that's it

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>sounds like it's worth eighty bucks, but it's not worth

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>three and a half hours of your life, And so

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, thinking about it in those terms can

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>be helpful. On that note to Matt, the stranger test

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>is another technique to help curb consumption. We talked recently

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>with Lisa Rowan and she had a book on money

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>hacks that was episode three or seven. Imagine a stranger

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>handing you cash instead of the item or attempting to purchase.

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>That can provide health framing that can be instrumental in

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>curbing impulse purchases. So like, do you want the eighty

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>dollar backpack or do you want eighty bucks? And usually

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.239
<v Speaker 1>almost always I'm gonna take the cash, and so that

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>means that I shouldn't buy the item, And that is

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>just one more helpful trick in helping us curb spending

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and rethink our relationship towards money in general. Yeah, of

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>course you're gonna save that eighty bucks right there on

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the spot, like in that one instance, right, but by

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, by doing that over and over, I think

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the lasting benefit that you receive is the ability to

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>see money for what it's actually worth versus something that

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>we just exchange for stuff that we then exchange for

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>our time. Uh and then that's the rest of your life.

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right. You know, we generally just become a little

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>more skeptical about using our money. We're more judicious, you know,

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>before we just like tossing out there on any random

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>thing that crosses our instagramn Yeah. What other way that

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>we want to shift how it does that people think

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>about their money is we want to encourage folks to

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>uh stop saving for retirement instead save for your future self.

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, semantics are at play here a little bit.

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>But one of the biggest hurdles that that I think

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>keeps people from investing enough for retirement is that they

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>do a poor job at connecting what feels like sacrifice

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>now to the benefits that they would receive from that

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>money down the road, right, And so saving for retirement

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it almost feels like a tax or even this expense

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>with very little upside because we don't receive anything right now.

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Part of me is like, am I actually ever really

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>going to get that old? I mean, I know that

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I am, but but it's hard to imagine, hard to

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>make that connection. I completely know I I agree. You know,

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have massive brinkles one of these days, but like,

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not quite there yet. I mean I got

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>a few the backs on the eyes for sure, but

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>with time of uh and so instead, you know, we

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>want individuals to imagine like that they are saving for

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>their future selves. You know, it's it's not like this

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>separate person. It's not somebody else that you're saving money for.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>It's who you are right now, just a little bit older,

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna happen sooner than you think. You know,

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about the face app you're able to I

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's still out there, uh, put out

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>there by the Russians, right, but the ability to use

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>these different apps to take a selfie and to make

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>yourself look you know, fifty years older is amazing. That alone,

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.479
<v Speaker 1>right there can can be the visual shock that you

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>need to get yourself to do the right thing. Yeah.

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I think there was like a Fidelity study or something

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that where they did that with people who are saving

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>for their their retirement who were younger, and it really

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>did have an impact on how much they decided to

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>put away for the future because they're like, oh, that's

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>what I'm gona look like in thirty forty years, And

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I need to start saving for that dude because or

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that gal like whoever. It is, like, I need to

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>start thinking about my future self and postponing it is

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>only hurting that person who is going to be me someday. Yeah,

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's probably why too. The older we get, the

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>more likely we artistated, because we're closer to being those

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>people were like, oh, actually I am getting kind of old.

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Then it's just less effective. Right, So the earlier we

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>started so much more effective, So we have to kind

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of get that visual representation of what we're gonna look like.

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>You and I did that, and uh, you know, decent

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:53.479
<v Speaker 1>looking old, but I look like I mean, there's more

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>like eighty five year old, like those guys were old.

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But if I look that good when I'm eight five,

0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be happy, Yeah, for sure. And it's amazing.

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I think how just like a little sleight of hand

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>can make us feel like someone has powers that are

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.959
<v Speaker 1>in this world. I'm talking about like magicians, right, like

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.240
<v Speaker 1>David Blaine. I mean, that guy does some incredible stuff

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's not like he actually has magical powers that

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>are from another universe. Man, I still don't know how

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>he floats. Yeah, I don't either, but it's incredible, right,

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>invitation trick is pretty good. I think the same kind

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>of thing can be true of our personal finances though,

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Like you can go David Blaine on your finances. These

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>tricks and techniques aren't mind blowing when you look at

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>them on the surface. It's like having no spend month. Okay, cool,

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>great tip, Matt and Joel. I mean, it's it's not

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 1>something that that we're not the first people to have

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>ever thought of that, right, But if you implement just

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>a couple of these, it can make a major difference

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>over time and how you think about money in general

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and your perspective on this stuff. It's not about the

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>money that you don't spend on that one purchase or

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.879
<v Speaker 1>the one no spend month that you implement. It's about

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>completely changing the way you view money altogether with a

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>few simple tricks and techniques that are gonna have a

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.439
<v Speaker 1>positive impact on you for years and years to come.

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>And so, yeah, I don't know how David Blaine floats,

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 1>but I do know how you can change the way

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>you think about money, And it really is through using

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>some of these techniques, trying some of these things out,

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>implementing them into your life and seeing how they work out,

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>seeing if it does gradually start to change the way

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you think about saving, spending, and investing. Yeah, you could

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>not agree more. And here's the thing too, there are

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>tons of tricks out there that we didn't mention, right,

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and so if there are things that you are implementing

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>in your life, ask yourself. You know, obviously there's probably

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be a monetary benefit that you're receiving right now,

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>but then go another level deeper, like either ask yourself

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>why it is that you're doing this, or ask yourself

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 1>what is the other additional mental benefit that you are

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>receiving by doing that, and hopefully you will find that

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 1>there's something else that could lead to lasting change for

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life, not just within that one

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:47.959
<v Speaker 1>purchase or that one ability to to save a little

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>bit more money, no doubt. Matt, Like, as we were

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of coming to this episode thinking about how we

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>were gonna talk about this topic, you and I decided

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that it was important to get a little more meta,

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>go a little deeper when it comes to some of

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>these money tricks like that they are on the surface simple,

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>but but at their route they have a long lasting,

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>deep impact. And I know they have. They've had that

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>on us. Man. Like my my thinking about money, although

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>it might be weird, it might be like crazy to

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.479
<v Speaker 1>some people, it is in large part because I've tried

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>some of these tricks. I've implemented them in my life,

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, Man, I think about the stuff differently,

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>like it has every time I spend. It feels different. Yeah,

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that's because, right, you know, these simple financial moves and

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.760
<v Speaker 1>these things that we can do, these tricks, they're anchored

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>to like these deeper financial truths, and those are the

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>truths that we want to point people to for sure. Man.

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, let's come back to the beer that

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>we had on the show, because obviously having a beverage

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>in hand while you're talking about money makes it much better.

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Today on the show, we had a beer called Bound

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 1>by Time. It's by Edmund's past. Matt, what were your

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on this? I p a it was so very good.

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>My first sip all I could think of was canned

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>pineapple juice. I don't know why. I think it quickly

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>faded after that, but I was really thirsty, and sometimes

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>when you sit down and you have a beer and

0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 1>you're pretty thirsty, it tastes different to you. I feel

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>like it tastes even better when you're a little dehydrated.

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not the best thing from a health perspective, but uh,

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, right around on the bike a little bit.

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I did some of that today. I didn't replace those

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>fluids with my hot water that's over there in my thermos.

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Did with a beer instead, did it with a beer instead.

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>But it was really good, man. Yeah, I'm glad this

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>was one you and I got to enjoy edmunds Os.

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 1>They they were just making some really good stuff. Yeah,

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to having more by them, Like we

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>just started getting their stuff in Atlanta, and this one

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>was really good, man. It was really smooth. I didn't

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>necessarily get massive pineapple flavors out of it. It tasted

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>like a really good I p A that just had

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>just an incredible smoothness to it. I don't know how

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>else to describe it. Almost like it had lactose in it,

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think it does, right. Yeah, Yeah, I

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>think it's It's honestly probably an I p A that

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 1>almost anybody could get behind because it's not super bitter,

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not super juicy, it's not super piney, it doesn't

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>have any of just like a great smooth drinking I

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>p A. Yeah, for sure, very flavorful, but still just

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>incredibly smoothness delivery too. So yeah, clad we got to

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>have this one together. But that's gonna do it for

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>this episode. For folks who want show notes for this episode,

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>just go to our website at how to money dot com.

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:03.920
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0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:05.239
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0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.879
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0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.040
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0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.280
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0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.279
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0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.759
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0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>something like that. And as always, thanks in advance. All right, man,

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.919
<v Speaker 1>So until next time, best friends, best friends Out.