1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the field. 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, a blimp. We're not even in 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: the straded beer of normalcy. All right here we are. 5 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: I need a rocket roll on a Wednesday. It is Wednesday, right, 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: I got in trouble with the days of the week. 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but it's Wednesday. We're 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: ready to roll, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: after another day on the practice field for the Bills 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: as we enter ever closer to the team's second preseason game. 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: And while a thing, it was an interesting practice today, Steve. 12 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: But first I have to talk to you, being a 13 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: fellow dog owner about my daughter. So we had two dogs. 14 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: We unfortunately lost our older dog back in June, and 15 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: my younger dog is the not a very intelligent dog. 16 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: And now that my son's away at college, he was 17 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: this dog was pretty tight with him and she she 18 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: tried to break out of her crate where we put 19 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: her during the day when we're not at home. She 20 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: wasn't in there long. She escaped. She like bent the 21 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: gate that opens for the crate that was intact, but 22 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: the top bar. She had pulled away with her mouth 23 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: somehow squeezed through and you know, was there to creech 24 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: you at the side door when you got home. Did 25 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: she wreck the house? Well, we looked around and there 26 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: was no foul play it appeared except in my son's bedroom. 27 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: His bed was completely disheveled. It looked like the dog 28 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: was trying. She was trying to get into the bed 29 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: and like under the covers or whatever. So I don't 30 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: know if it in a way, it's kind of sweet, 31 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: like I don't know if she was missing him or what. 32 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: But she's probably a little out of sorts with who's 33 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: in the house and who's not in the house now. 34 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to You're a dog veteran, so I'm 35 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: trying to get your your thoughts on this because we 36 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: don't want to break it out of the dang thing. 37 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: First of all, it doesn't seem serious. It's a case 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: of situation anxiety. But for me, I first of all, 39 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I get a new crate that is instructible. I mean 40 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: I can bend it back with it's a metal crate, Like, 41 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I get it. What I would do is 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: if you can bend it back and stuff and then 43 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: get some zip ties and zip it so it won't 44 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: oh all right, and then so she can't get out, 45 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: and then you might try radio. Well, we put the 46 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: radio on. Oh, she actually listens to the show during 47 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: the day. We've got my show. She's my favorite because 48 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: my dog Vern does not listen to the show. Wow, 49 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: come on, if you put the radio on, he's got 50 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: no choice but to listen, right, Yeah, but the house 51 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: is full of people. So oh um, Yeah, that's that's 52 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: rough because you always feel bad for the dog too. Yeah, 53 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't know. Yeah, that's 54 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: that's tough. It's obvious she's missing, missing the big guy. 55 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: But I don't know what, asked Carter, what would he do? 56 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. Like he was his last couple of 57 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: weeks at home, he was, he was letting her sleep 58 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: in the bed and all that stuff. I was like, 59 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: this is a bad road to go down, because I 60 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: told him, I said, don't do that. Number one, because 61 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't want her up on people's beds. Number two, 62 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: I said, you're not gonna be here in two weeks. 63 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: This is not good. Here's and now here's what we 64 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: get out of that. Here's who's left holding the bag. 65 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: Here's here's what you do. Move the dog into his room. 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Just let her have it. Just turn her, give her 67 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: the room, give her the room, come on, be the 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm feeling that. It's not my house. 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't know if I'm feeling that. Give 70 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: her the room, Let her sleep on the put an extra, 71 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: put a put her bed in there, put her bed 72 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: in there, put her bed on his bed and leave. 73 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not doing that. She can have her 74 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: she can have her bed on the floor. He'll come on. 75 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Just put a nice, big, an old, worn out blanket 76 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: on his bed. Let she'll be fine, And that's where 77 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: she'll sleep. And then he can sleep in her bed 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: when he comes. Oh that's interesting. Well you know his 79 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: old bed turns into her bed. Now that's what I mean. Oh, 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yeah, just give her the room, 81 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: all right. I don't think that's gonna fly Tell Tracy, 82 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: I said, I don't think that's gonna fly. On. We'll see. 83 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: That's the that's the right. I am a therapy right there. 84 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: Just give him. As far as our dogs go, the 85 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: family knows me as mister No, yes, because they all 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: you know, if it was up to them, uncle, if 87 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: it was up to them, the dogs would right here. Uncle. Yes, 88 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure give the dog impact on you in your 89 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: life's okay, I'll let you know what the verdict is 90 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: when I run that by everybody on the home front. 91 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: Let me wait, just give them your son's right on 92 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: the whiteboard after the show. What the verdict's gonna be. Yeah, 93 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. H We wanted to get 94 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: to NFL News and notes, and we'll have more on 95 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: this later. So I don't know what to make of 96 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: this anymore. We heard yesterday that Panthers Patriots joint practices 97 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: got way out of hand. There were two fights, players 98 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: got ejected from practice. Today, Day two of joint practices 99 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: between the Panthers and Patriots. Play one of team segments. 100 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey takes the ball first snap, gets tackled out 101 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: of bounds to the ground. I don't know what their 102 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: rules of engagement are over there, but gets tackled out 103 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: of bounds and to the ground. He pops up and 104 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: throws the football at the tackler and after that it's 105 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: on Like Donkey Kong. So one play in and they're 106 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: going at each other again. Yeah, it was described as 107 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: a melee. I think that's a little strong because I 108 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: saw some of the film, a lot of pushing and shoving, 109 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: a couple of phone videos, big crowd of guys, crap, 110 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, spinning around. So according to our good friend 111 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Mike Giardi from NFL Network, who was at the practice, 112 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: he said, Dietrich Wise, the defensive lineman for the Patriots, 113 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: appears to have been ejected from practice, and he said, 114 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: bad look for both teams. So there's that, and I 115 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: mean there is a law of diminishing returns here when 116 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: you have too many of these dust ups, because you're 117 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: wasting everybody's time in terms of getting the work done 118 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: that you want to get done in a competitive setting 119 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: like that. And people say, ah, why there's only three 120 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: fights in how many plays? Two in one practice is 121 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: too many? You know. It's one thing if you have 122 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: some jaw jacking and a little pushing and shoving after 123 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: the play, But when you have guys coming across to 124 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: the opposite sideline and you've got one hundred guys pushing 125 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: and shoving each other, it's just now you've wasted like 126 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: five minutes that you're not going to get back. I mean, 127 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: could you run practice five minutes longer? Maybe? I don't 128 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: know what the union rules say about that. Yeah, that's right. 129 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, but there's the second straight day of this guy. 130 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Yesterday Kenny Robinson got tossed, Christian Wilkerson got tossed, and 131 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: then today Wilkerson got carted off, which led to a 132 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: to this melee with Dietrich Weiss and McCaffrey was a 133 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: little later than that. So somebody got injured in the 134 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: fight or on the play they got the guy got 135 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: the kid that got thrown out yesterday, the wide receiver 136 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: from the Patriots, Christian Wilkerson, got whacked after he fought 137 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: yesterday and got thrown out, so somebody hit him today 138 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: he stayed down. There was a fight after that then center. 139 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: Yet in this yesterday center for the Patriots James Franz 140 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: and Carolina tackle Phil Hoskins. They got tossed yesterday as well. 141 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: So I did see that. Um, yes, multiple guys, and 142 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: I said it yesterday's bad teams. You know, don't bad 143 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: teams do that. They're trying to prove something to themselves, 144 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: and you know, to other the other team as well. 145 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I hear a lot even of Patriots 146 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: media pilot on that. I think there's a big, a 147 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: big mindset in New England right now where they have 148 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: all this to prove. They got to really prove something. 149 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: They went to the playoffs last year with a rookie quarterback, 150 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: but there still seems to be this burden on the 151 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: Patriots to prove they haven't. It hasn't all fallen apart, 152 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And yeah, I don't think 153 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: there's anybody over there who can actually step away and 154 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: see how good that franchise is and has been and 155 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: even is now, even with Mac Jones. They were a 156 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: playoff team last year. Certainly they had issues and their 157 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: rosters not that good and all that. Yet you say, 158 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: whatever you want, their playoff team, okay, and you would 159 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: expect them to be better this year, and you can, 160 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: you can, you know, reign on their draft all you want. 161 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: They got the you know, everybody laughing at that first 162 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: round pick Cole Strange, who should have been maybe a 163 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: third round pick. But nevertheless, there seems to be this 164 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: mindset in New England. They got all kinds of things 165 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: to prove and we heard that, you know, we heard 166 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: all the time about them. But I'm really surprised at 167 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: that by that franchise, that they're coming out and having 168 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: to go through all of this with whoever it is 169 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers, you know, now Panthers. I can 170 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: see they got something to go, They got something going 171 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: on over they gotta it's put up or shut up 172 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: time for them. It's Sam Darnald and and Baker Mayfield 173 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: and whoever else they've got. They're trying to find themselves. 174 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: Matt rule is on thin ice, the thinnest of ice 175 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: in my opinion, So I can see it coming from Carolina. 176 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: But one of the Patriots doing I don't know, I 177 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: don't care it. Meanwhile, you have other joint practices going 178 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: on Vikings and forty nine ers and no issues. Yeah, 179 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: two days if practices, no issues. So I don't know 180 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: what to make of it. But I think that you 181 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta be better than that. I mean, it's 182 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: almost like I understand, emotions run high and sometimes it 183 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: gets the better of you and you do something stupid, 184 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: but after you've seen examples of it, to just the 185 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: day before to start in on it right away. Again, 186 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: I don't know it. It doesn't add up for me, 187 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm with you and I'm don't get me wrong, 188 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean I was. I'm as hyper competitive as the 189 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: next person, but it just seems counterproductive to what you're 190 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: trying to get done there. Meanwhile, at Chiefs camp, it's 191 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: been reported that wide receiver Nicole Hardman has been carted 192 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: off the field. It was due to a reported groin injury. 193 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: The severity is unclear. This is from multiple reports out there, 194 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: but Hardman was able to walk off the field before 195 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: getting on a cart to head into the locker room. 196 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: They're deeming that to be a positive sign. I don't know. 197 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: You can walk with a groin injury a pretty serious one. 198 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: So we'll have to see what comes of that groin injury. 199 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: For a wide receiver, that's that's tough because you're using 200 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: those muscles every time you run around and make a cut, 201 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: are you not. Yeah, So that thing's got to be 202 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: one hundred right before you're running full speed again routes. So, 203 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully for his sake, it's not severe, otherwise 204 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: it might take him a week or two to get right. Yeah, 205 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: you've got the Yeah, that's any kind of leg injury. 206 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: Foot injury is a big one for those games. That's 207 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: all they do. They got a run, Yeah, they got 208 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: a run and they gotta feel good about it. Be 209 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: interesting to see how long he's on the shelf with 210 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: that injury. Will wait for more word on that. Seahawks 211 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: quarterback Drew lock Steve, Did you see this? He tested 212 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: positive for COVID and he is going to miss the 213 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Seahawks Thursday night preseason game against the Chicago Bears. So 214 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: he was, So he's in a quarterback competition. For those 215 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: that don't know, Geno Smith started the first preseason game. 216 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: Drew Locke was scheduled to start the second preseason game 217 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. Well that's not going to happen now 218 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: because he's got COVID. So talk about an unfortunate time 219 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: to miss a start during a quarterback competition. Good lord, 220 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: But Locke is out of luck. So Gino Smith will 221 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: start again, just like he did in the preseason openers. So, 222 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean, where do I think that thing's going? Your 223 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: guess is as good as mine, right, Yeah. I don't 224 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: know what to make of that team. I really don't 225 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: there They have a chance to be really bad. Yeah. 226 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: I was perplexed. I saw this is the same Geno 227 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: Smith that got his jaw broken by a teammate because 228 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: he was such a donkey. Yes, I k and him. 229 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: Polly was that player and he eventually became a bill. Yeah, 230 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: he was a bill for a minute. Yeah. And I 231 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: mean that's that. And we've had I've heard they're a 232 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: team in transition, clearly team. I person who was reported 233 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: on that on that team, and I heard him it 234 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: was off the record and not off the record, but 235 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: it was their own observation. They said that the Seahawks 236 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: are it's a bunch of guys. Now, certainly it's a 237 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: football team and all that, but they are disinterested in 238 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: being friends with each other, not at all. They're guys 239 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: who work together. Wow. Um, which is really tough to fathom. 240 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: And that yeah, because I mean I don't think Pete 241 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: Carroll gives off that air, does he? Pezza, No, Pete 242 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: is a pea like Yeah. But that's why I'm surprised 243 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: to hear that there were like, you know, you say, hey, 244 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, like DK metcalf signed a new deal. You 245 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: know you'd think his boys like, hey, all right, and 246 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, good for him. I mean there's 247 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: no Yeah, so they've got it. Knowing that they got it, 248 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: that's a steep hill to climb. Yeah, So Drew Locke 249 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: has a step hill to climb if he's going to 250 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback because he's not going to be 251 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: starting this week due to the fact that he has COVID. 252 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Unfortunate for him, to say the least. Then there's the 253 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: weird story concerning Jimmy Garoppolo. Do you see this? It 254 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: was first reported by the San Francisco Chronicle and has 255 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: since been confirmed by NBC's Chris Simms, where essentially it's 256 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: been reported that in years past, when they get to 257 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: the offseason, Jimmy Garoppolo drops off the radar, gone yea, 258 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: ignores them, doesn't return calls from coaches or teammates, doesn't 259 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: return texts, doesn't respond. Is just he's like Kaiser Sosey 260 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: from the Usual Suspects movie. He's gone. He's just gone 261 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: and nobody can get hold of him, to the point 262 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: where representatives from the team had to drive to his 263 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: house and knock on the door. And Chris Simms essentially 264 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: confirmed it, but it's it's been given a Moniker. It's 265 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: called the Jimmy g Vanishing Act. This offseason, when he 266 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: had to have surgery and then go through rehab to 267 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: get himself right to make himself a trade commodity, was 268 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: the only offseason where he was readily available and reachable 269 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: by phone or in person. So Chris Simms, who does 270 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: a show with Mike Florio on Pro Football on NBC, 271 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: he confirmed this. Steve, he said, a longstanding forty nine 272 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: Ers player confirmed to him he goes off the radar 273 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: all the time. Apparently it's not just the off season. 274 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: Nobody can get in contact with him and that, yes, 275 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: it is true. They've had to physically drive to his house, 276 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: knock on the door and yell hello, are you alive? 277 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: For a quarterback on an NFL team, starting quarterback? Is 278 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: that the weirdest thing you've ever heard? Yes, that's top five. 279 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean for the quarterback because you can't have that. 280 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: That's top five that Not only is that weird for 281 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: anybody who is part of a team and does all that, 282 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: but think about this, most of these guys like Aaron Rodgers. 283 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: Now even Aaron Rodgers, he's a little cryptic. Yeah, yeah, 284 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: but you know what if they're gonna sign an offensive player, 285 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: they pick, he picks up, they pick up from a 286 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: call him yeah, because he wants Aaron. What do you 287 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: think we're thinking about doing this? Is this? You know? Copathetically? 288 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: You don't have a beef with this guy? Right, or 289 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna get you another wide receiver. Here's some film 290 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: on what do you think you know? Because that's they 291 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: do it with Josh? Or he's on the fence, give 292 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: him a call like right, he'll help us seal the 293 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: deal here, right, all of that, most of these quarterbacks, 294 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: it's a sign of respect and a little bit of like, yeah, 295 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: you if I'm gonna be thrown to somebody, better let 296 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: me know who it is before you sign him. I 297 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: want to veted this guy. It seems like he could 298 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: not only could not care less about any of the 299 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: transactions you're gonna do this offseason, didn't care about you. 300 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: He's just ghosting people. But like he ghosts teammates. I 301 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: don't understand, like like what if, like what are your 302 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: linemen is trying to get a hold of you, because 303 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. He wants to go to dinner or 304 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: something where he got a charity. He wants to or that. Yeah, 305 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: and I mean that guy's protecting your rear end every week. 306 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: You're not gonna call him back, like what are you doing? 307 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: How does it go when you finally do get back 308 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: in them, Like training camp starts like hey, we're where 309 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: you've been? Yeah right, Yeah, that's gotta be a little ad. 310 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: No off season fishing or golfing trips, no hanging out 311 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: with your buddies. No know, is that just a maybe 312 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: as a personality flaw. I don't know what it is. 313 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: It's bizarre. It's really bizarre, and I get it, okay, fine, 314 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: but given the environment in which we live, where guys, 315 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, older, weird studiosyncrasies kind of come out at 316 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: some point. Yeah, it makes you kind of think, what 317 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: does he do well? Like where he's got a train, right, 318 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a professional athlete. He's gonna train's gonna 319 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: stay in shape. But what else is he doing? And 320 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: nobody knows about right. Well, So, now now that this 321 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: story has come out, it has led to his fueled 322 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: speculation as to why the forty nine ers have not 323 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: yet traded him because all these other teams are aware 324 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: of this behavior doing their own you know, because they 325 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: vet this stuff. If you're gonna invest in a quarterback, 326 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: you're vetting that guy eight ways to Sunday. Yeah, and 327 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: there's relations they've uncovered this undoubtedly. Certainly there's guys on 328 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers staff. With Kyle Shanahan at his 329 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: age and his stature in the league. He's got guys 330 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: on his staff who have worked with a thousand other 331 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: guys in staffs around the league, and they're all calling 332 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: each other, say what about what's up with Jimmy? He said, 333 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: you know what, guy disappears in the offseason. What do 334 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: you mean disappears? He didn't show up at the facility. 335 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: No, No No, we don't know what he does. We can't 336 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: find We can't find him. He didn't call us, We 337 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: can't call him. He like literally drops off the map. 338 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: And that guy's gonna be the face of your franchise. No, Like, 339 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: what do they do? What they doesn't? Don't they call him? 340 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: Like if they're gonna sign wide outs or anything, we 341 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: can't get hold of him. That's unbelievable. That's different with 342 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: a capital D. Who's going to be interested in that guy? 343 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, if you're a football team, 344 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: even if you need a quarterbacks whoever, whatever team you are, 345 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: do you want to you want to give up assets 346 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: for that? I don't think you do. I mean maybe 347 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: you stomach it if it's like an all world player, 348 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: like if Dan Marino had that personality or just needs 349 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: time away. You might stomach it for what you get 350 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: on the field. But you're not even getting a guy 351 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: that's a prolific passer, Like you know, who's going to 352 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: train for that guy? Certainly, certainly Jimmy's not an elite quarterback. 353 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: He's an also ran at quarterback rights that average he's like, right, okay, 354 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: he's a man. What does it say about us? And 355 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: when I say us, the collective us, everybody who wears 356 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: a logo, a team logo or league logo, or even 357 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: US as a society. Okay, what's it say about us? 358 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: When Deshaun Watson gets like this mega deal and knowing 359 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: all that idiosyncrasies about him, and it's away from the field, 360 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: all that stuff you know on the field, the guy's 361 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: you know, a killer. Off the field, he's a creep 362 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: to say the least. What's it say about the football 363 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: league when nobody wants to trade for Jimmy Garoppolo when 364 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: he's just okay on the field and he's got all 365 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: these like I don't know about he's disappears off the field. 366 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: So one, I mean, they're not that different. I mean 367 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: they are different because Jimmy G's not been a you 368 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm mean, what do we know about these guys? 369 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: One guy was coveted, the other guy is like, everybody's 370 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: like stiff arm him on trade. Dude, that's crazy. You 371 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: would think everyone's stiff arm the Texans for that for 372 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: Deshaun and everybody would love Jimmy G. Because at least 373 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 1: the guys, you know, he shows up and all that. 374 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, just because he likes 375 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: his offseason, everybody's stiff armed him. I wonder if they're 376 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: gonna be able to move him for anything. Well, everybody's 377 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: kind of counting on the fact that they can't. They 378 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: don't want to pay the twenty four million. Yeah, and 379 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: then they'll just clip him and they'll but then see 380 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: if you're then you'll get an opportunity try out somewhere. 381 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: They'll want to interview you, sit you down here. He's 382 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: coming off surgery. What's about this we're hearing about you know, 383 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: you ghost in people. I'd love to if the Cardinals, 384 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: if the Cardinals can put you got to study clause 385 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: in Kyler Murray's thing, the team that you no goes kids. 386 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: You have a no ghost cause you have to answer 387 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: my calls when you have ten minutes to answer my 388 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: text or you're but that's good. But that's you know, 389 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: that's where they're at. I think they're waiting for a team, 390 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: the team to clip him. And but here's the problem 391 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: with that. If you're saying the Seattle Seahawks or one 392 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: of these other teams, or even what the Carolina Panthers 393 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: or one of these other teams, it's looking for a 394 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: quarterback Houston made with Davis Mills. Although they may like 395 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: the kid, you're then when they cut him. Now you're right, 396 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: he's a free agent. You're right back to square one. 397 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna pay the guy ton if you trade for him, 398 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: it's twenty four million. Are you gonna get him for 399 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: twenty four million after the trip after he's cut. When 400 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: you're in when you're in a bidding war with Seattle 401 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: and Carolina and Houston, you know Tennessee well, Nick Kissario 402 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: who's the GM in Houston. He does know Garoppolo from 403 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: their days together in New England, so right, if he 404 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: had not seen that before and now is learning about 405 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: that kind of behavior now, I wonder what he thinks 406 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: if he's even remotely interested in acquiring Garoppolo is a 407 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: veteran backup or something. I don't know. It's wacky. The 408 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: whole thing's weird. So it's gonna be interesting to see 409 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: how that all shakes out. Last NFL news and note, 410 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: and this is a big one, Drwin James and the 411 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: Chargers have agreed on a massive, four year, seventy six 412 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: point four million dollar extension, which averages just over nineteen 413 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: million a year and resets the safety market. The deal 414 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: makes James the highest paid safety in NFL history, twenty 415 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: nine point one million in year one alone, forty two 416 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: million guaranteed. Both of those figures are records for a safety, 417 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: and James is about as versatile a secondary piece as 418 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna find in the league. He can play outside corner, 419 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: he can play he can play either safety position. He 420 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: is a unicorn as a defensive back, and he's just 421 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: entering the prime of his career. So I understand the commitment. 422 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: There By the way, I didn't even realize this. He 423 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: was a hold in at camp. He was not practicing. 424 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: He was there, but he was not practicing. So that 425 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: deal gets done. It's huge. Good for him, and that's 426 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: that's how it's done these days. It's you hold in, 427 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: you don't hold out, right, you go in, you refuse, 428 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: and you're just not gonna play. Hey, listen, I'll be 429 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: here and I'm gonna do this, but I ain't playing. 430 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: Don't even ask me a step on the field. That's 431 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: the way it's done. And good for him. He's that 432 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: You're right, he's a unicorn. You think about all the 433 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: money the Chargers have shelled out Steve twenty million a 434 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: year from Mike Williams, the receiver, the Khalil Mack trade, 435 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: and the contract they inherited their defensive tackle, Sebastian Joseph Day, 436 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: the corner from New England just signed there J C. Jackson. 437 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: They have shelled out a ton of cash all because 438 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is still on his rookie contract. It'd be 439 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: interesting to see how that shifts and challenges. I've heard 440 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: that too, their new coach, and I can't even think 441 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: of the Brandon Staley has said now that their their 442 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: role now, their their goal now, and their kind of 443 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: mindset is to overcome what Chargers teams have always been 444 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: able to overcome. They to rise above the reputation of 445 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: their franchise. Yeah, they've always had great They've had great 446 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: players here there. They've made one super Bowl in their history, 447 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: but they've always been underachieving franchise no matter who was 448 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: playing for him, Dan Fouts, Kellen Winslow, John Jefferson, Phi Ladanian, Tomlinson, 449 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: you could down the list, Billy ray Smith, Billy ray Smith. Yeah. 450 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: So there's a a litany of tremendous great players who 451 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: have played for them, have never won anything. One thing. 452 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: They've gotten to super Bowl in ninety five, I think, Yeah, 453 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: and that's it. They you know, playoffs or even out 454 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: of the question for them. They are perennial mediocre, mediocrity. 455 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: So Brandon Staley has told them, hey man that let's 456 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: not make that us different. And they've certainly spend the 457 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: money where you would think that they shouldn't be. Some 458 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: might be thinking, how does this impact Jordan Poyer in 459 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: his contract situation. I don't believe that it does because 460 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of apples and oranges. You got a young 461 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: player who's entering the prime of his career, and as 462 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: I said, it's kind of a unicorn type safety. That's 463 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: not to take anything away from Jordan Poyer, who was 464 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: second team All Pro last year. He's a fantastic player. 465 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: But I think where Derwin James is in his career 466 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: is much different than where Jordan Poyer is in his career. 467 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: So will it be brought up? Probably? Does it inflate 468 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: the value of the safety position. It unquestionably does, so 469 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: it may help. There may be a ripple effect that 470 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: ultimately helps Jordan Poyer in his negotiation with the Bills, 471 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's going to dramatically shift where 472 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: the two parties might be in terms of more money 473 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: for Buffalo Is veterans safety. But we'll see, We'll have 474 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: to see. We've got some people waiting online at eight 475 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: oh three, five fifty. We'll get to the Twitter question 476 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: in just a second, but let's get to a couple 477 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: of these here, and we lead off with Dave in 478 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: ken Moore. Dave, what do you have for us? You're 479 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: on one Bills Live day? Are you there all right? 480 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: Dave's not there. We'll put him on hold. We'll move 481 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: along and go to George in Cheek Dawaga. George, what 482 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: do you have for us? You're on one bills live. Hey, 483 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: what's up? Oh much? First of all, I just wanted 484 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: to say, Steve, the reason that all the callers believe 485 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: that you should be in the Hall of Fame isn't 486 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: just because we're all Homers and you're one of us. 487 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: It's because you truly changed the position of a special 488 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: teams specialist, and they have I mean, they still mimic 489 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: or try to mirror what you did, and that is 490 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: what is worthy of being in the Hall of Fame. 491 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: You changed the way the game is played. And thanks. 492 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate Georgia. Thanks George, I appreciate it. Not a problem. 493 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: One of the things I wanted to ask is do 494 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: you think, I mean, with day Ball being finally hired away, 495 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: there was I didn't hear one word about Leslie Frasier 496 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: getting interviewed by anybody. Do you think the last thirty 497 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: seconds of the Kansas City game is what cost him 498 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: a job or do you think it was his age? 499 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: I think it probably is a little bit of his age. 500 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: He's in his sixties. Yeah, he's in his early sixties. 501 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the thirteen seconds had as much to 502 00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: do with it as if you're looking for reason. I mean, 503 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: there's possibilities. His age is one thing. Another thing might 504 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: be that while the defense here in Buffalo was ranked 505 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: number one, you know, they they had a schedule, it 506 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: was pretty easy. So yeah, and there's really no good 507 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: reason for it. I mean, Leslie Fraser is a stellar guy. 508 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: Everybody here in this building room more than he's more 509 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: than qualified. I'm not saying that he automatically should be 510 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: rubber stamped a head coach in the National Football League, 511 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: but goodness gracious, you should talk to the guy about 512 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: your spot. I'm trying to think, off the top of 513 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: my head about all the jobs that were filled, and 514 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: how many were filled by offensive coaches. You had Brian 515 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: Dable with the Giants. You had the guy that left 516 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: the ram staff to go coach the Vikings. Offensive coach. 517 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus is Chicago's new coach. He is a defensive coordinator. 518 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson goes to Jacksonville offensive guy. Offensive guy. So 519 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: I think there has been a trend of late to 520 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Hacket in Denver is another one. So the trend 521 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: of late, not just this past year, but in previous years, 522 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: has been to hire a coach with an offensive coaching background, 523 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: and I think it's rooted in the fact that the 524 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: quarterback position is so important that they want to have 525 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: a person at the elbow of that quarterback without the 526 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: risk of losing that coach. And the best way to 527 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: do that is to hire an offensive coordinator as your 528 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: head coach. And we've seen some of that. Josh McDaniels 529 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: goes to Las Vegas as another one, and I think 530 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: it unfairly penalizes defensive coordinators with strong resumes to get 531 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: head coaching jobs because they want to cater to the 532 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: quarterback and keep that smooth running operation in which the 533 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: offense can put up points and the quarterback keeps the 534 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: same system act. I'll say this though, Um, you look 535 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: around and there's a ton of guys that are on 536 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball that that got hired 537 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: in the last year or two or three. Houston with LOVEE. Smith, 538 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: he's a defensive guy. This year, the Jets with Robert 539 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: sala Was who's into his So they are defensive coaches. 540 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: Chicago went with Ebra Flus, Tampa Bay went with Todd Bolls. 541 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: Although they're some of these, they're elevating from within, which 542 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: is a little different scenario. And Dennis Allen with the Saints. 543 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: Dennis Allen with the Saints. Yeah, so those are defensive guys. 544 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know the numbers, but just the optics for me, 545 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: it seems to be leaning. It might only be sixty 546 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: five thirty five, It just seems to be leaning more 547 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: towards the offensive end. And I think it's rooted in 548 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: the fact that people don't want owners who need a 549 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: new head coach and have a quarterback in place, don't 550 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: want a scenario where they have an offensive coordinator who's 551 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: lightening it up with their quarterback and then they lose 552 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: them to a head coaching job, much like the Bills 553 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: did here with Brian dable Um. They're worried about that 554 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: being impacted, and so the way to insulate yourself against 555 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: that is to hire an offensive coordinator to be your 556 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: head coach. We can, we can talk about this, Yeah, continue, 557 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: We got to take a break here. We'll get back 558 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: to more of your phone calls. We're also talking on 559 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: the Twitter poll about the player you need to see 560 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: more of coming up in preseason game number two. Who 561 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: do you need a better evaluation on going forward? Let 562 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: us know at eight fifty eight fifty two, five fifty 563 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: or on the tweet sheet to one Bills Live. We're 564 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: back in a second come back to one Bills Live. 565 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: Chris Brown Steve After a review and prior to practice today, 566 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Leslie Frasier addressed the media. We got some 567 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: of his thoughts on some of the player performances in 568 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: the first preseason game on the defensive side of the ball, 569 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: and we'll get into some of the practice notes from 570 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: today as well after coach Frasier is done. But here 571 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: is Buffalo's defensive coordinator prior to practice today. I'm thinking 572 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: that most of you are probably like we are happy 573 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: to be back in Orchard Park, and guys are working 574 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: hard and glad to be driving home at night. The veterans, 575 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: the rookie is of course, are hotel bound, which is 576 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: not all bad for them, but it is good to 577 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: be back. We have a lot of work he had 578 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: done as we are approaching the regular season, and guys 579 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: are working hard and we look forward to another preseason 580 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: opportunities that's a waiting us so to be a good 581 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: week of work for us. You know, Saint John's Fisher 582 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: was good for the time that we were there. But 583 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: it's good to break camp and come back home as well. 584 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: You know, you look forward to when you break camp 585 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: for a lot of different reasons, and uh, it was 586 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: a good experience up there, but it's good to be home. 587 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: Didn't play. I just wanted to be able to John 588 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: take a good look at the young corners or as 589 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: much as we could. We have a pretty good feel 590 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: for Dane and and and he'll get some work before 591 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: the preseason is done, I'm sure, But we wanted to 592 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: get as many views of our young corners as we 593 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: could and and it will be the same way in 594 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: these final two preseasons and games. We need to get 595 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: a real good evaluation of the two of them and 596 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 1: make a good decision leading up to our season opener. 597 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: Where does that place in terms of you got a 598 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: comfortable feeling for where he is getting over them that 599 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: sliding differently in a competition essentially started to beginning the season. Yeah, 600 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: for sure. You know, he's played games for us. His 601 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: experience matters. Although it's limited in the grand scheme of things. 602 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: But for us, you know, he's ahead of the rookie 603 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: corners that we have and we just needed to be 604 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: able to see them more. And we, like I said, 605 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: we want to see more of them in the next 606 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: couple of ball games as well. But Higher and Christian 607 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: in that first season, I was really impressed with their work. 608 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they both did a really good job. They 609 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: were both targeted and when they had opportunities to make plays, 610 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: they made plays. Um. They were physical, Uh, they got 611 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: their hands on balls, they were good in man coverage 612 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: for the most part, the odes were where they should 613 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: have been in zone. So we were pleased with their 614 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: first outing. UM and now with the practices that we 615 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: have remaining along with the two preseason games, you want 616 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: them just to continue to grow and develop, and we 617 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: got to keep putting them out there and put them 618 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: in a different situations and see how they respond. They 619 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: both respond sort of like nothing's too big for them. 620 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: But as they're a part where you're thinking almost like 621 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: you think you know, but you don't really know yet 622 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: because you know what's coming, how does that work with 623 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: these young guys who have confidence, which is a good thing. 624 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: It's a really good observation that I've had that thought 625 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: in my mind because even though they're doing some good 626 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: things now, I just know when you get to the 627 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: regular season, I mean, there's a big bulls eye on 628 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: a rookie Corner's chest, and you know, you there are 629 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: more things thrown at you, and we're trying to throw 630 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: as much as we can at them this time of 631 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: the year, but there's nothing like, you know, being in 632 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: game situations. And the good thing is they're both very 633 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: confident in their abilities and that show and the way 634 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: they played and this first preseason game and that's a 635 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: big deal at Corner. But you're right, there are some 636 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: things coming that you know, there's no to really assimilate. 637 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: They just have to go out and and and perform 638 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: in those situations. And as I mentioned, we're trying to 639 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: give them as many looks and put them in as 640 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: many different situations as we can. But there's nothing like 641 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: playing on a live game. One thing holding on to 642 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: the halfway to work slowly so great, but you're fantasticated. Yeah, 643 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: Like I said, Joe, it would be great if we 644 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: were to get him. If Nate Brescie, our trainer head trainer. 645 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: Were they come by this morning and say, hey, Davis 646 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 1: is going to be ready to go tomorrow, that would 647 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: be welcome news. But in the meantime, I really got 648 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: to do a good job of getting Christian getting Kyer 649 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: ready along with Dane and and and see what happens 650 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: from there. Um. So we just kind of crossing our 651 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: fingers hoping we'll get to Davis soon. But in the meantime, 652 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: we've got to get get the other guys ready. But 653 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: there's so many pluses to this game, Elena. You know, 654 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: the experience now at this stage of his career, his 655 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: competitive fire, you know, his ability to be able to 656 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: match up on the top receivers in our league. That's 657 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 1: rare to have a guy like that, and the confidence 658 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: that he plays with, the takeaways that he gets for us, 659 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: the big plays to punch outs, the interceptions, and then 660 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: the intangible his leadership. You know, guys follow him, not 661 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: necessarily because of how verbal he is from a leadership standpoint, 662 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: but his example. He's such a hard worker, that's so 663 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: talented that whether you're a linebacker or defensive lineman, you 664 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: see his work ethic, it becomes infectious and you'd like 665 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: to have your better players with that type of work 666 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: ethic and that rubs off onto other guys. And then 667 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: the fact that he's a really good player along with 668 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: all those other things I mentioned, But those are the 669 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: things that are making really good. His competitive fire is supreme. 670 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: It's it's at a different level. I've seen that the 671 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: coaching him as he's talking with Kiers, he's talking with 672 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: Kristen Jamarkus, the different young guys that we have in 673 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 1: the secondary, Um, you know, just trying to work with 674 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: them and be around them in the meetings, uh, watching 675 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: their drill work and giving comments. He's been real positive. 676 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: He's been an encouragement to our other defensive backs and 677 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: his presence I think he helps those guys the fact 678 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: that he's around. So let's see. You commented on the 679 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: rookie corners already, Um, and they're playing zone coverage, but 680 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: just overall, the rookies as a whole transitioning from playing 681 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: moostling man in college to playing a lot more zone 682 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: than the NFL. What were your impressions of the rookies 683 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: after their first preseason game and how tough transition from 684 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: too zone. Yeah, it's it's definitely different, Um, and I 685 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: don't know matter if you could see it with our 686 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: linebackers a little bit, you know, coming from like you mentioned, 687 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: a lot of zone in college and then playing some 688 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: more man concepts here in the pros or vice versas 689 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: some teams in college or heavy man and less zone, 690 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: and you know, we're a little bit of both, but 691 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a big transition playing as much zone 692 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: as we will some weeks, and there's other weeks where 693 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 1: we're going to be heavy man. But for a guy 694 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: to go from spot dropping to a certain area a 695 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: certain area on the field to having a lock up 696 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: on some premiere running backs or premiere wide receivers all 697 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: over the field, that takes some skill and takes some 698 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: work as well, And it's a big transition because of 699 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: the talent level of the people that you're going again, 700 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: so the technique, the fundamentals that are required, and that's 701 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: where we come in as coaches to help them with 702 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: is of the utmost importance. And that's a big transition 703 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: for god coming from college where it's more Sken scheme 704 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: skiing because of a number of hours they can practice 705 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: compared to us, where it's just all football all the time. 706 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: It's a big transition for sure, all right. That's defensive 707 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: coordinator Leslie Frasier addressing the media earlier today. He was 708 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: asked a question about True Davious, and while he said, 709 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, Trudavius's competitive fire is unmatched, it's on another level, 710 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: and people are anxious to know when Trudavious will be 711 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: ready to play Steve. It's clear that there is no 712 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: timetable even for the coaches to have an idea on 713 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: whether they'll have him or not. So not knowing whether 714 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: you'll have True Davious compels Leslie Frasier and his defensive 715 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: staff to play these younger players as much as they 716 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: are because if Trudevious is not ready by week one, 717 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: Dan Jackson is going to be on one side, but 718 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: there's a very good chance kyriem and or Christian Benford 719 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: could be on the other side. Right, So you better 720 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: get him ready, right because the Rams are coming at 721 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: you with Cooper Cup, Alan Robinson and Van Jefferson have 722 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: fun with that. Yeah, they got some guys, So you're 723 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to make some decisions. And I think right now, 724 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: I mean, say, for instance, they play this game on 725 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: Saturday and then all of a sudden Tradevious still isn't practicing, 726 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: which he may may well not be. Then you're starting 727 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: to get to a point where even if he comes 728 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: back and he's one hundred percent healthy, he's got a 729 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: lot of rust to knock off. So yeah, they gotta 730 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: get these guys ready. They're gonna they need as many 731 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 1: good cornerbacks as they can possibly put on the field. 732 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: They got tarn Johnson They've got, and that's They got 733 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: Dane Jackson who have played last year, and that's it. 734 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: The two rookies, it's Benford and Elam You know cam 735 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: lewis okay, he can play, but you know, you gotta 736 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: go into a season with a very young group out 737 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: there if Tavius isn't on the field, and they got 738 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: to be ready for that. But there's just no getting 739 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: arounded some of these guys. They're all gonna have to 740 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: play play well. Break time for us here when we 741 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: come back. Some of your thoughts on the tweet sheet. 742 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: What players on the Bill's roster do you need to 743 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: know more about and see more of in the upcoming 744 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: preseason game. Give us your choices, tell us why we'll 745 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: read them here next on one Bill's Live, stay too 746 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: all right, Welcome back, It's one Bill's Live. Chris Brown, 747 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you and Twitter. Question on the table 748 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: today is basically asking you which Bill's player do you 749 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: need to know more about in the team's next preseason game? 750 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: And why fair question because one preseason game does not 751 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: an evaluation make. And leading us off today is herb 752 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: m tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, 753 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company in the Buffalo Bills, and 754 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: the HERB says, I would like to see more of 755 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard. He had a good game against the Colts 756 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: for the most part. I would like to see how 757 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: he follows it up with this game against the Broncos. 758 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: A lot of the rookies had encouraging performances last week. 759 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: The question now, as we just heard from coach Frasier, 760 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: is can you stack another one on top of that? 761 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 1: It's the consistency factor that has to kick in now 762 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: for these guys. It's the same thing about you know, 763 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: I've been talking a lot to everywhere everywhere I go, 764 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk about matter arizonim and I tell 765 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: them the exact same thing that Leslie Frasier is telling 766 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: us about the DBS. If you're riding this roller coaster, 767 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: you want to slice off the drops, you know the 768 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 1: bottom sloop, you know the cutout the troughs. Yeah, cut 769 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: out the troughs. You don't want to have an eighty 770 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: two yard punk one week and have one eighty two 771 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,479 Speaker 1: yard or a sixty two yard and then a fifteen yard. 772 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: The fifteen yard is unacceptable. You can't go into a 773 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: football game, no, And that's an option. Your bad punch's 774 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: gotta be like forty thirty eight yards. You know, you've 775 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: got to have a chance to go down and cover. 776 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 1: You've got to switch the field. So while matt Aaiza 777 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: had this boomer the other day, you don't want him 778 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: to come out next time and hit one off the 779 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 1: side of his foot net fifteen. Same thing with Elam 780 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: and Benford and Bernard and Spector, all these guys. They 781 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: came out and they played well. There's just like you 782 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 1: and I have been talking about them all training camp. 783 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: But you can't have the bad play where you have 784 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: a brain freeze and all of a sudden, you're the 785 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: guy that you're guarding is running free down the sideline. 786 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: They try and figure out every single way they can 787 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: to put these young players in a spot where they 788 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: have to think, react and play really really fast and hopefully, 789 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: and I said this, hopefully on a plate on a 790 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: defensive call, they maybe run twice, you know what I mean. Yeah, 791 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: something they're not that familiar with. They just let them 792 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: be instinctive and know what they're doing. You got to 793 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: put them under some stress mentally to find out if 794 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: they can handle it, because that's what they're thinking about. 795 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: They just want to know where the floor is on 796 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: these guys. Where is it. Is it just a mediocre 797 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: play or is it where they go off the air 798 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: and they're in the wrong spot and you've given up 799 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: the explosive play. That's kind of what that's where he's at. 800 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: That might be what was most encouraging to hear about 801 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir's performance from coach Dorsey when he addressed the 802 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: media the other day on the heels of the first 803 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,959 Speaker 1: preseason game. He said, we line Khalil up just about 804 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: everywhere in the formation. Over the course of that game. 805 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: He did not have a single mental bust, no mental 806 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: errors or Emmy's as the coaches call them. For Shakir 807 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: that's impressive. It'll be interesting to see how the evaluation 808 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: changes because right now at this stage, you're not really 809 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: doing any game planning, as you know, Steve, they're just 810 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: letting those guys go out and play. Here the play 811 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: call on the huddle or read the offense whatever, and 812 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: then react. Does the mental processing change when there's a 813 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: game plan in place, not really just studying the opponent, 814 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more, probably more well rehearsed with 815 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: what plays are going to be called. Yeah, you got 816 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 1: a heads up as to what kind is on the menu, 817 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: and and a little bit I'm sure they do a 818 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: little bit of this, like you'll get at least like, hey, 819 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: remember last week we were doing this and this, because 820 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: we're not doing any of that this week, so you 821 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: can kind of take that off your menu. That's kind 822 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: of a plus. It's as much what you're not going 823 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: to do and why. Also you have an understanding as 824 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 1: to a deeper and a game plan setting. You know 825 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: why you're doing it because they you know, this is 826 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: the weakness of their defense, This is where their defense 827 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: is vulnerable. This is where we're going to attack it. 828 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: This is where our matchups are the best. So we're 829 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: gonna take that matchup and put it where they're vulnerable. 830 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: That kind of thing. You get that reasoning behind the 831 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: play calls. But you know, and on defense, same thing. 832 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: When we're lined up, we know where they need to 833 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: attack us, we know where we're weak. You know, let's 834 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: watch out for our man. You know, they're just the 835 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: other side of the coin. But game planning really streamlines 836 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 1: the process during the week. That's why you know during 837 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: the week you got you got a routine, you get 838 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,959 Speaker 1: it all in, and you're ready on game day because 839 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: you feel like you got a whole menu a place. 840 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: But I think the big thing in at this point 841 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: in history for the NFL, it's because the guys have 842 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: an understanding of what that other team is. That's that's 843 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: the the light years ahead of where they were back 844 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 1: in the sixties and seventies where these guys are now. Question, 845 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 1: they just have a better understanding of the other guy. 846 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but when we return, 847 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna find out what the hell is going on 848 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: at the Panthers Patriots joint practices. The last couple of days. 849 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: Fight Scalore here to tell us more about it. In 850 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: the second hour the show will be pay Stots, writer 851 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: for the Athletic, Chad Graf. He joins us. Next, you're 852 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live, presented by Collot of Health. It's 853 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been 854 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 1: all all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was 855 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you, state Steve 856 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the strated beer of normalcy. 857 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 1: All right here we are our number two on a Wednesday, 858 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: Chris brown Steed task me with you and happy to 859 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: be joined now by the man who sat ringside today 860 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: at UFC two eighty up there in Foxborough for Patriots 861 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: Panthers joint practices Day two. It's Patriots writer for the Athletic, 862 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 1: Chad Graft joining us on the line. Chad, were you 863 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: able to steer clear of the violence today? I was. 864 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that every fan was. If that was 865 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: UFC two forty eight, that was an eventful one. I'm 866 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 1: not sure what the undercard was. Maybe that was yesterday's brawl, 867 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: but it was it was another crazy day for them. 868 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: Matt's hilater said, you know, look where football players not 869 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: m m a player, not MMA fighters. And then you 870 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: watch that video that you're seeing right now on the screen, 871 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: and perhaps the fan in the front row who got 872 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: hit might beg to differ. So this was the first 873 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: play today, right, like McCaffrey got hit out of bounds 874 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 1: or something. Right, So they did some warm ups and 875 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 1: then they started off the day with special teams with kickoff, 876 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: which seems like perhaps an odd thing to start off 877 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: with since kickoff is a full speed drill. Apparently it 878 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: was not intended to be a full speed, full contact 879 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: kickoff drill. And yet one day after for the fights 880 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 1: broke out involving Panther's safety Kenny Robinson and Patriots wide 881 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: receiver Christian Wilkerson. Those two happened to be on kickoff 882 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: and Robinson comes running down the field Allegedly this part's 883 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: a little bit unclear, but supposedly hits Wilkerson from the 884 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: side in an injury that looked pretty bad. Wilkerson was 885 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: down for a while. We're still not sure how he's doing, 886 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: but Panther's safety Kenny Robinson kind of stood over him 887 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: taunted a little bit, and that's where Patriots players really 888 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: took exception with that, so they kind of stopped the 889 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 1: drill after that big scofflay. All right, you know what, 890 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 1: we're done with this, We're moving on from special teams. 891 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: Let's go to eleven on eleven And then the very 892 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 1: next play is the one where Christian McCaffrey gets hit 893 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: maybe out of bounds, maybe right before he's about to 894 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: go out of bounds, kind of right on the line. 895 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: Given everything that just happened, though, tempers were already high. 896 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: And then that's where the big punches were thrown. Two 897 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: fights basically in two minutes, and at that point both 898 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: coaches had to gather their teams and try to calm 899 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: things down and try to somehow get the practice back 900 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: on the rails. But what led to them? What are 901 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: the mindsets of both these clubs that you know, it 902 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: seems to be pervasive all the way down the roster 903 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: where you know, there's a little chippiness, that guys are 904 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: on edge, guys don't want to be embarrassed on the field. Guys, 905 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: what do you think is behind these two teams having it? 906 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: Because we just heard that the Niners and the Minnesota 907 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 1: Vikings had two days of it and they didn't have 908 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 1: a single scuffle. Um, what leads to this? What do 909 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: you think, what's your friends in Minnesota and all was 910 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: fine out there for their joint practices, but it basically 911 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: started yesterday as the Panthers defenders were taught and told, hey, 912 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: really get after it during these drills, even if you 913 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: can't tackle, make sure you're trying to strip the ball away. 914 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,760 Speaker 1: So that was what they did, and some Patriots players 915 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: took exception of that. I'm like, come on, man, this 916 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: drill is over, stuck trying to rip the ball out 917 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 1: of my hands, and if you do, stop celebrating like 918 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: this was a fumble. This drill is basically over. So 919 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: you get some chippiness from that. Then eventually it boils 920 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,879 Speaker 1: over with one guy throwing a football in the other 921 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: guy's face, some pushing, some shoving. That all set the 922 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 1: scene for today. So yesterday there were three players kicked out. 923 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: Today they kick out you know, the guy who levels 924 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: the big hit during kickoff, and then a couple more 925 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: players on the ensuing play. So after that things finally 926 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: slowed down. But I also think that it's noteworthy that 927 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: a lot of those involved were on the roster bubble, 928 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: and these are guys who are trying to make an 929 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: impact and perhaps in the case of Kenny Robinson just 930 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: took things a little bit too far in what Matt 931 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: Rule called a drill that was not supposed to be 932 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 1: full contact, full speed. And then Matt Rule afterward said 933 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,720 Speaker 1: he's not ruling out cutting Kenny Robinson over this because 934 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: of these actions. So, and you kind of gave a 935 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: little bit of a idea of it there. What have 936 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 1: been where have the coaches kind of come down on 937 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: this when they've been asked about it? Belichick and Rule, 938 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 1: so they go back a little bit farther than I 939 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: think I initially realized. Just because Belichick has some connections 940 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: to Temple that Rule used to be the coach there, 941 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: They've got some mutual friends. So that's how this kind 942 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: of started. And they agreed before these joint practices, hey, 943 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: anything that sort of resembles a fight, we're going to 944 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: kick people out over. And then I think they got 945 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: a lot more than what they had expected. In training camping. 946 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 1: In some joint practices, it's not uncommon for pushing and 947 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: shoving or jawing or sidelines celebrating, But what we saw 948 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: the last two days was far and away different from that, 949 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 1: to the point where practice had to be stopped for 950 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 1: a bit today, So just kind of a surreal time 951 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: here in Foxborough. And you know, I haven't covered this 952 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 1: team nearly as long as others, but a lot of 953 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: people said this was as far as the joint practices 954 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: have gone under the Bill Belichick era. Who is at 955 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 1: this current moment as we move along, are there any 956 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: rookies or this draft class of the Patriots have anybody's shining? 957 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: Who's up, who's down, and who's calling plays? That last 958 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: one is the million dollar question that I'm not sure 959 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,879 Speaker 1: we're going to know until Week one at Miami, but 960 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: I think it's probably going to be Matt Patricia. Even 961 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: though Joe Judge called the majority of plays in the 962 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 1: preseason opener that was mostly with the third string, Matt 963 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: Patricia called the plays for the second straight and has 964 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: called plays pretty much throughout training camp, including today. He 965 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: also holds the title of offensive line coach, so perhaps 966 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 1: it was noteworthy that during seven on seven drills when 967 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 1: the offensive line went for drills against the Panthers's defensive line, 968 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 1: Patricia stayed over by Mac Jones and the quarterbacks and 969 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: was the one calling him plays. So at this point, 970 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: be very surprised if it's not him, which is going 971 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: to be a fascinating story to follow, just because he 972 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: goes from the guy who was, you know, at least 973 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: deemed as a defensive whiz, the mad scientist who was 974 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: Belichick's right hand man, to the failed head coaching stint 975 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: in Detroit that left Lyons players popping champagne when he 976 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: was fired, to now coming back and essentially being the 977 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: de facto offensive coordinator. I think that's going to be 978 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: a fascinating storyline to follow throughout the season. And then 979 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: when you talk about the rookies and ask about them, 980 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: Tayguan Thornton, the wide receiver, the second round pick with 981 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: the crazy fast forty time. He's a guy who I 982 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: think has really improved throughout camp and kind of refined 983 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: his route running so that he's more than just a 984 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 1: speed guy, more than just a downfield guy. And it'll 985 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how he fits in this mix 986 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: of Patriots wide receivers, where I think you could argue 987 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of decent wide receivers Kendrick Bourne, DeVante Parker, 988 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers, Nelson Agole or but perhaps not a true 989 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 1: number one. So it's going to be interesting to see 990 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: where he fits in that mix. Can you do you 991 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: have a sense, Chad as to the fan concern over 992 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: the change at offensive coordinator, especially in light of the 993 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: fact that you know, I know Matt Patricia spent a 994 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: brief time on the offensive side of the ball in 995 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: his coaching career, but I mean, most guys that get 996 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: promoted to this job have a heavy and lengthy background 997 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball and ascend into 998 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: a role like this. It's almost like Matt Patricia kind 999 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: of got dropped out of the sky, even though he's 1000 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 1: familiar to Patriots fans, to run this position with only 1001 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: a second year quarterback. Is there a sense of concern 1002 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: from the Patriots fan base that you have on this? 1003 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: For sure? It's definitely a bizarre situation. As you mentioned, 1004 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: there's kind of a way in a linear track that 1005 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: these things go. You're a running backs coach, and then 1006 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 1: a tight end coach, and then an offensive line coach, 1007 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: and then a quarterback coach, and eventually you work your 1008 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: way up to that position. Of course, that's not exactly 1009 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 1: what is happening, and I think the major concern comes 1010 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 1: from Mac Jones showed in year one that he has 1011 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,479 Speaker 1: the potential to be a franchise quarterback. I think it's 1012 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: probably safe to say that he was the best rookie quarterback, 1013 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: which would have surprised a lot of people given the 1014 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that were taken in front of him. And yet 1015 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: the last thing that you want to do is mess 1016 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 1: with that or mess that up going into year two 1017 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: when all of these other quarterbacks Joe Burrow included recently 1018 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 1: going back to Patrick Mahomes even though he didn't play 1019 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: year one, a lot of those great quarterbacks really take 1020 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: the next step, as you guys, and home in Buffalo 1021 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: once year or two comes around, and so it's got 1022 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: to be at least a little bit nerve racking that 1023 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: the year Mac Jones is supposed to take that next step. 1024 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: He's got a mostly defensive guy potentially calling plays and 1025 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: a guy Joe Judge who spent a lot of time 1026 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: on special teams as his quarterbacks coach. So it's for 1027 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 1: sure at least a little bit uneasy. We've heard reports 1028 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's been a thing coming out 1029 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: of training camp at the offensive struggle off, you know, mightily, 1030 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 1: is that overblown or is there something really for them 1031 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: to be worried about and does it stem from the 1032 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: players a roster or does it stem from this uncertainty 1033 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: who's calling plays. I think it's got to start with 1034 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 1: this scheme and the play calling and how things are going. 1035 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: I think that they would probably tell you it's overblown, 1036 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: that they are trying some different things out and perhaps 1037 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: tweaking some things, and this is too early to make 1038 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: judgments or to cause concern. I think I would probably disagree. 1039 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 1: I think this is a fair time to wonder how 1040 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: this is going to work out and what's going on. 1041 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: I think the offensive line, the personnel is there. They're 1042 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: just kind of figuring their way through this scheme change 1043 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: and this change and how they're going to run block. 1044 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 1: But I think it's fair to be concerned about the 1045 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: wide receivers. We mentioned the depth that they have, yet 1046 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, probably the lack of a true number one receiver, 1047 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,479 Speaker 1: and then you know there's just the issue of how 1048 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 1: this is going to work with mac Jones and what 1049 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: is the downfield passing going to be like and is 1050 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: it best for his career to be surrounded in this situation. 1051 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: So you know, at this point in mid August, they 1052 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 1: would say it's overblown, but I think it's a story 1053 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: that is fair to discuss. And we're thinking about what 1054 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 1: about the situation at corner Chad. You've got some guys 1055 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 1: there that have now been lost for the season, veteran players. 1056 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: They may not have been lock, you know, lock surefire starters, 1057 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: but they were going to probably play a role of 1058 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: some kind in the secondary. And now Juwan Williams and 1059 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler are both on ir done for the year. 1060 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: Why don't you pick up the pieces for us at 1061 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: cornerback in terms of what they have left to work 1062 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 1: with there? Less concerned there actually, even though that is 1063 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 1: a position that enter training camp with a lot of 1064 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: unknowns and you know, fairly some worry, and yet they've 1065 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: done very well through camp and really had a great 1066 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 1: couple of days against Carolina. Perhaps you could argue that's 1067 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: because of the quarterbacks in Carolina and the roster and 1068 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: just the situation there. But having said all of that, 1069 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: Jalen Mills is having a great, great camp, put together 1070 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: two really good days in these joint practices, and it 1071 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: looks like he could kind of ascend into that role 1072 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 1: of a true number one cornerback that the Patriots have 1073 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: been so fortunate to have with jac Jackson last year 1074 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: and Gilmore before that, so that spot looks pretty secure. 1075 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Opposite him, Jonathan Jones is playing well, They've got a 1076 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 1: rookie and Marcus Jones who's playing well. Their safety depth 1077 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: is very good, So surprisingly, this is not something I 1078 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 1: would have guessed to say, maybe three weeks ago. But 1079 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a ton of cern right now 1080 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 1: about the secondary. Yeah, how about their total defense? It 1081 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: do they deserve a little bit more consideration than people 1082 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: have been willing to give them. They looked very slow, 1083 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: very old late last year, particularly in Week sixteen matchup 1084 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 1: with the Bills and in the wildcard playoff. I mean, 1085 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 1: they just seem to hit the end of the road 1086 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,959 Speaker 1: really quickly. Last year. They certainly did, and I think 1087 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: it's been an interesting to kind of figure out how 1088 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: to balance the offensive struggles of is the offense struggling 1089 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: because they're going through the scheme change and trying to 1090 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: figure out how things are going to work and where 1091 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 1: mac Jones's reeds are and how to run block in 1092 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 1: this scheme, or is it that the defense legitimately is 1093 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: that much quicker and faster and has sideline speed now, 1094 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 1: and the secondary is good and the pass rush is better. 1095 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of a tough thing to balance. I will 1096 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: say that they had an incredible day against the Panthers yesterday. 1097 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: I keep coming back to the caveat that this is 1098 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, and so who knows just how much 1099 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 1: stock to put into that. But they do look I 1100 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: think faster and better. And I think there's reason to 1101 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 1: be a little bit optimistic about where New England's defense 1102 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: is at right now. The offensive line has four of 1103 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 1: five players returning from last year. It's basically just the 1104 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: rookie right, Cole Strange, that's the new guy in the 1105 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: front five there. But yet we hear all these disappointing 1106 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: reports from people you know covering the beat, like yourself, 1107 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,479 Speaker 1: that the offense can't execute a play, they can't run 1108 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: block against their own defense. Mac is under all kinds 1109 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: of duress. He's chucking balls away to avoid sacks. What 1110 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: is this accurate? Like? What are we Is this every 1111 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: day or is this just a bad day or two? 1112 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 1: What are what are we dealing with here? Because people 1113 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 1: were ready to call the Dante Scarnecki a hot line 1114 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 1: last week, he certainly were and It's weird because it's 1115 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: kind of the opposite of the cornerback situation, where there 1116 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 1: there is a lot of concern going in about that 1117 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: position and so far, so good on that front, and 1118 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 1: yet it's kind of the opposite on the offensive line. 1119 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: I still think given the personnel, it's just going to 1120 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 1: take a little bit of time as they switch to 1121 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 1: this zone rushing scheme that we've seen, you know, follow 1122 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 1: the Kubiaks and the Shanahans and so many teams try 1123 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 1: to implement. I think it'll take some time. I'm not 1124 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,919 Speaker 1: super concerned about them, just because of the personnel that's there. 1125 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 1: I think that they probably deserve a little bit benefit 1126 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 1: of the doubt. But if this is still going on 1127 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 1: next week and the week after that, then at that 1128 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 1: point it's probably time to start worrying as that Dolphins 1129 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: game starts creeping up the calendar. And I know that 1130 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: you just made a switch from the Minnesota Vikings beat 1131 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 1: over to the New England Beat. What he can you 1132 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: tell us about the Vikings and this new coach, Kevin 1133 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 1: O'Connell and year one with their franchise. I've been super 1134 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 1: super impressed by Kevin O'Connell. You know he's one of 1135 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 1: Sean McVay is understudies, and I think with that comes 1136 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of scrutiny or at a level of doubt, 1137 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: like is this guy just riding the coattails of the 1138 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 1: latest hot coach? And yet it's been very impressive to 1139 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 1: see what he's done with that offense so far. It's 1140 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 1: an offense that these AFC East teams are all going 1141 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 1: to see and one that has the potential even given 1142 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: the questions, Even given you the fact that Kirk Cousins 1143 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 1: probably is in the top ten quarterback they still boast 1144 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, Adam fieland Dalvin Cook. You combine all of 1145 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 1: that with the offense that helped the Rams win the 1146 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, and I think that the Vikings 1147 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 1: could be a pretty sneaky team in terms of putting 1148 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 1: together a top ten offense and being a team that 1149 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: is right in the mix for one of those wildcard spots. 1150 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 1: I still think they're a level behind Green Bay in 1151 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: that division, but I've been super impressed by Kevin O'Connell 1152 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: so far. Chad, thanks very much for the time, We 1153 01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Good luck steering clear of fisticuffs that might 1154 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,800 Speaker 1: be flying your way to back off of the sidelines 1155 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 1: over there. All right, I know you guys actually have 1156 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 1: an overview vantage point there. You're not anywhere near the 1157 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 1: sidelines most of the time, right right. I still think 1158 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 1: I may need to bring boxing gloves next time. For now, 1159 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: we're safe so far. All right, good enough, Thanks Chad. 1160 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 1: We'll catch up with you down the line. Thanks guys, 1161 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: targ deal later. All right. That's Patriots reporter for the 1162 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: Athletic Chad Graph joining us breaking down some of the 1163 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: extracurricular activities that have been happening at the joint practices 1164 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 1: between Patriots and Panthers. Apparently it's been an extracurricular extravaganza. 1165 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, it's a this has got it. I mean, 1166 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Phone videos on Twitter that you can 1167 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 1: see this whole right, But this spills into the first 1168 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 1: row with the fans. I mean, apparently one of the 1169 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 1: fans got hurt. You're digging with You're dealing with big 1170 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: humans here, and a lot of weight is literally being 1171 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: thrown around. You know, you're an average size human being. 1172 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: You gotta get the heck out of the best part 1173 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 1: about it is we watch it. We're watching a video 1174 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 1: now for those of you on radio, and there's just 1175 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: like there's people, you know, staff members like just stand 1176 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: there like, you know, twenty five feet away. There's like 1177 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 1: literally one hundred guys in a in a ball swinging 1178 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 1: and fighting and pushing and shoving, and there's just favorite 1179 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 1: you know, it's like you're like on the street just watching. 1180 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 1: My favorite thing is the equipment guy that come runs 1181 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 1: over and then grabs the ball bag away. But we 1182 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 1: don't want anybody tripping over the ball bag. And I'm 1183 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: not gonna get I'm not gonna get you know, blamed 1184 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: for this. I'm the ball boy. I'm getting this bag 1185 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 1: of balls out of here, so no player trips over 1186 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 1: and gets hurt. Here comes here comes gotta get get 1187 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: it out of there, Get out of there, but don't 1188 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,160 Speaker 1: don't go Yeah, and then I can picture myself in 1189 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 1: this whole scenario, what I would have done, What would 1190 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 1: Steve do? What would Steve would go over? I'd be 1191 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: right there around where number thirty is there on that 1192 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,640 Speaker 1: you'd come up to the edge and make sure that 1193 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,799 Speaker 1: you didn't get sucked into the vortex. I would stand 1194 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 1: there back away, make sure that whoever was standing around 1195 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: here had the exact same jersey on that I did, 1196 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 1: and I would stay there. Would you say anything, Hey, guys, 1197 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 1: come on, knock it off. I would not say anything. No, No, 1198 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 1: that's not Kelly used to Kelly used to egg it on, 1199 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 1: going yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go on. Come on. He's 1200 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,639 Speaker 1: standing over there, you know, with Ted Urcher Broda drinking 1201 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 1: a glass of water. But it's I've told you. I 1202 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 1: came into the league. It was the steroid error in 1203 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 1: the NFL. And there were guys, you know, offensive line 1204 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 1: when we're two ninety with thirty six inch waists, there's 1205 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: six to five. I mean, there were bodybuilders and Royd 1206 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 1: rage was a real thing they called it. Guys had 1207 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 1: fuses that were so small, incredible hulk exactly. And if 1208 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: you didn't have like six more guys that were also juicing. 1209 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 1: With two guys who were juicing get into a fight, 1210 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,639 Speaker 1: it was a death match because you couldn't separate them. Yeah, 1211 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,440 Speaker 1: nobody was strong enough. It's not anybody who wasn't juicing. Yeah, 1212 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,760 Speaker 1: so you had to have like you hadn't have like 1213 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,559 Speaker 1: ten of those guys who have two of them got 1214 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: into a fight, the other eight could pull them apart 1215 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 1: because if he didn't pull them apart, they pull each 1216 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: other apart. Yeah, and it was real. I mean it 1217 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 1: was like, you know, it was a deathmatch, and it 1218 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 1: would last for you know, ten or fifteen seconds, and 1219 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,680 Speaker 1: they pull them apart, and they'd get a couple of 1220 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,760 Speaker 1: breaths in him and then they'd let him go, and 1221 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 1: then it was like, you know, then the next period, 1222 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,840 Speaker 1: those guys are taking a knee side by side, going hey, 1223 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: my bad. Yeah, no worries. You know, did you ever 1224 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:34,320 Speaker 1: experience a scenario where a bad injury was the result 1225 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 1: of one Not that I remember, Not that I remember, 1226 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,960 Speaker 1: because I because you see these guys push, see fingers 1227 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: getting busted, next getting busted, or even like somebody's shoulder 1228 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 1: getting yanked the wrong way. Yeah, but that but man, 1229 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 1: back in back in the day, I mean, it would 1230 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 1: take a massive amount of energy to even dent one 1231 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 1: of those guys. Yeah, you know unless the only time 1232 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 1: where I think coaches really get worried is when you 1233 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: either have a guy punching a helmet, which you know 1234 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,680 Speaker 1: you can break your hand pretty easy to doing that, 1235 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 1: or when the helmets come off and gets start to 1236 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 1: get used as weapons. That's when you really got to 1237 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 1: get concerned. Well, you get hit in the head with 1238 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,720 Speaker 1: a helmet, without a helmet on your own head. The 1239 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,759 Speaker 1: dangerous thing is when it happens, when when it happens 1240 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: out in space, when it happens down in the trenches 1241 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: where there's sixteen guys standing around, guys are right, there's 1242 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,519 Speaker 1: there's no room to operate in and you're you've got 1243 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 1: all of those guys grabbing you before that stuff gets going. 1244 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 1: But it is an absolutely intense scene in there, and 1245 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 1: you can feel it, you can feel the emotion. And 1246 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 1: then you know, like in these things now nowadays, you 1247 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 1: see it rage, right so that they start to pull 1248 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 1: him apart or whatever. And you're trying to help a 1249 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 1: guy get pull a guy apart, and then somebody doesn't 1250 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,200 Speaker 1: like what you're doing because you've got you're grabbing, you're 1251 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 1: helping a guy with the wrong jersey on or whatever, 1252 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 1: and then then he gets mad at you and you 1253 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 1: then you know, then he hits you whatever. You know, 1254 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:04,080 Speaker 1: it just escalates, like we're seeing in this Patriot Carolina film. 1255 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's and he's right, Um, Chad was right. 1256 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 1: A lot of these guys that happens to our roster 1257 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 1: bubble guys, and they're and they're young because they believe 1258 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 1: every play is going to get them cut. I've told 1259 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 1: you that story before. You know how you ride that 1260 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 1: roller coaster mentally you have a bad rep. You think 1261 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 1: that's going to end your football career, and you don't 1262 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 1: want to happen, and you get mad at it. You know, 1263 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 1: you you act out because of it. So when they 1264 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 1: get over the fact that they realize it it's not 1265 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 1: going to be just one bad REP that does it 1266 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 1: to you, you can you kind of stop fighting later 1267 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,439 Speaker 1: in life. It's I mean, I understand why it happens, 1268 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 1: it's just crazy when you see it happen again and 1269 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,000 Speaker 1: again and again, especially in those joint practice this was 1270 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:49,719 Speaker 1: this sounds smacks of retaliation from yesterday. Yeah too well, 1271 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: and then the opening kickoff, Yeah, that was what the 1272 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 1: two guys that got thrown out yesterday. We're on kickoff 1273 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,600 Speaker 1: kickoff return. One guy's got an assignment, he's laying. The 1274 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 1: guy goes out of his lane, goes over and wax. 1275 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 1: The guy's got an agenda. It's retaliation. So that's that's 1276 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: unacceptable as well. Right. Some updates from Bill's practice that 1277 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,440 Speaker 1: we wanted to pass along to you from today involve 1278 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:21,839 Speaker 1: the following not participating in practice today. Tim Settle, Kingsley Jonathan, 1279 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:28,000 Speaker 1: the undrafted rookie defensive end, Micah Hyde, Spencer Brown. So 1280 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:32,639 Speaker 1: Tim Settle is dealing with a calf problem, Kingsley Jonathan 1281 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,879 Speaker 1: dealing with an ankle issue, and Micah Hyde and Spencer 1282 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Brown fortunately both of them just dealing with general soreness. 1283 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 1: Both of those players could be back as early as 1284 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: tomorrow in practice. And we saw Spencer Brown walking around 1285 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,839 Speaker 1: the sidelines today, didn't really look like he was suffering 1286 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 1: from anything significant. And Micah Hyde was actually working with 1287 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 1: trainers on the side, presumably to get some of that 1288 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,519 Speaker 1: soreness out of his body. Sometimes, as you get that 1289 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,559 Speaker 1: build up of lactic acid and you have soreness, sometimes 1290 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 1: the best way to get it out is to move 1291 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 1: around and get the blood flow going again, and he 1292 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 1: was doing some of that on the side with the 1293 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:13,240 Speaker 1: strength and conditioning staff. So hopefully we will see them 1294 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 1: back out on the practice field tomorrow. We have to 1295 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: take a break here when we get back more of 1296 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the tweet sheet concerning who you need 1297 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 1: to see more of to get a better feel for 1298 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 1: on this Bill's roster. We asked you that on the 1299 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 1: tweet sheet, but also at eight O three oh five 1300 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 1: fifty open lines for you there. If you want to 1301 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,680 Speaker 1: chime in on the phones, Althowise hit us up at 1302 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,880 Speaker 1: one Bills Live. We'll get through those tweet sheet comments 1303 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 1: next here on one Bial's Live, presented by Colloid to Health. 1304 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, we're back here on 1305 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 1: one Bills Live and want to get right to the 1306 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 1: tweet sheet where we have been asking you who do 1307 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,640 Speaker 1: you need to see more of? As we get closer 1308 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:11,000 Speaker 1: to preseason game number two. We only had our first 1309 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 1: initial exposure in a game setting to the roster as 1310 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 1: it's currently constituted in preseason game one against the Colts 1311 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 1: last week. Which Bill's player do you need to know 1312 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 1: more about and see more of this coming weekend? So 1313 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,080 Speaker 1: we go to the tweet sheet here and who am 1314 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 1: I up to here? I believe it now? We did 1315 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 1: herb so JT says Keenum. His first performance was horrible 1316 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 1: and scary to think he will back up Alan Heaven 1317 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: Forbiddy gets injured. Barkley played great and as one of 1318 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 1: Josh's buddies. He still got it. Also, need to see 1319 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,840 Speaker 1: something from Oj Howard didn't see much of him in 1320 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:56,559 Speaker 1: the first preseason game. Let's start with Keenum Steve first 1321 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 1: and foremost. There were a number of factors that can 1322 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 1: attributed to the offensive performance when Keenam was in the game, 1323 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:08,640 Speaker 1: right And I don't think anything negative that happened in 1324 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 1: the first preseason game is going to change the team's 1325 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 1: quarterback depth chart right now. No, I mean, I know 1326 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:17,960 Speaker 1: what people say. He had one bad throw. It was 1327 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: answered the one turnover with a bad back shoulder, but 1328 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 1: the tipped interception off Crowder's hands, Kumero's fumble on turnovers, 1329 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: and there was one later and I can't remember what 1330 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,519 Speaker 1: it was besides the back shoulders that was tipped pass 1331 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 1: off Crowder's answer an interception, Well that was early. That 1332 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,680 Speaker 1: was the first one, I think. But anyway, that, um, 1333 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm not down on Keenum, and I know people are 1334 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,000 Speaker 1: down on him, thought he, you know, played bad. I thought, 1335 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I didn't think it was. It was all 1336 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,240 Speaker 1: totally him. Certainly the play we're looking at right now 1337 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,640 Speaker 1: with the tipped off Crowder and all that, and I 1338 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: realized it's only practice, but in all fairness, he's had 1339 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,479 Speaker 1: some very good practices here through the course of training camp. 1340 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: Oh beautiful. Had a beautiful throw today, dropped it over 1341 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 1: the shoulder of Duke Johnson down the sideline on an 1342 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 1: anticipatory throw and I mean SYNCD it up beautifully and 1343 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson ran right under it. He's made a handful 1344 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,120 Speaker 1: of those kinds of throws. Yeah, don't pant. I guess 1345 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,720 Speaker 1: my thought. We don't panic about Keenham. Yeah, he's a 1346 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 1: good QB. He's gonna be fine, and the guys around him. 1347 01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,479 Speaker 1: When you get him with the first offensive line, you 1348 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 1: get him with the number one wide receivers. Although crowdy, 1349 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:32,200 Speaker 1: you could make the case could be that, yeah, it's 1350 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 1: gonna look better. I'm I'm okay with him. Barkley did 1351 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,320 Speaker 1: play great. We do have to remember it was against 1352 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 1: third teamers, and right, I think Barkeley would excel against 1353 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 1: most third string guys in the NFL because I think 1354 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,599 Speaker 1: he's better than that. But I don't see the quarterback 1355 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,920 Speaker 1: pecking order changing anytime soon. As for O. J. Howard, 1356 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 1: he did play a lot in that first game. I 1357 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,040 Speaker 1: think the whole first half, as a matter of fact, 1358 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 1: last week. I think that here's where I kind of 1359 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 1: come down on OJ Howard. I wonder because this is 1360 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,000 Speaker 1: the first time he's on a different roster than the 1361 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,320 Speaker 1: one he was drafted to in Tampa, and I wonder 1362 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:20,160 Speaker 1: if the acclamation period for him might take a little 1363 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,799 Speaker 1: bit longer. I'm not trying to give him a pass 1364 01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 1: because plays in the passing game have been few and 1365 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 1: far between, and I think there was an expectation that 1366 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 1: he would be performing at a level on par with 1367 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,559 Speaker 1: Dawson Knox, and I just don't think his time in 1368 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,720 Speaker 1: the offense has been sufficient enough for him to be 1369 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 1: anything close to that. He's got to put it together too, 1370 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. There's a responsibility on his part 1371 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,760 Speaker 1: to make more of an impact as well. But I'm 1372 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 1: willing to wait on it a little bit longer before 1373 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 1: I passed judgment, which is why I think he's a 1374 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 1: guy that we probably do need to see more of us, 1375 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Right Yeah, Um, there's no question that's Dawson Knox and 1376 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,479 Speaker 1: then the rest of the guys, um Knox. If there's 1377 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 1: a tight end on the field, it's gonna be Dawson 1378 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,800 Speaker 1: Knox first. I think it's going to remain that way 1379 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,360 Speaker 1: even after training camp breaks. I don't think, um, you know, 1380 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,720 Speaker 1: Sweeney or Oj Howard for that matter, has done enough 1381 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,120 Speaker 1: to even give you an inkling. And now it's it's 1382 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 1: the point where art Is Sweeney, Knox, Gillian or Quinton 1383 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,719 Speaker 1: Morris has actually made more plays than any of them. 1384 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 1: So is it as one of those guys or two 1385 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:43,040 Speaker 1: of those guys good enough to give the Bills some 1386 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 1: thoughts about running twelve personnel or two tight or twenty 1387 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,800 Speaker 1: two personnel or anything. Well, they only carry three tight 1388 01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 1: ends on the active roster last year. If you're gonna 1389 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 1: run significantly more twelve personnel, you're probably need more than three, right, 1390 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,760 Speaker 1: even if you have Gilliam as a fallback. If you 1391 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,160 Speaker 1: count him, you need three tight ends and Gilliam you'd 1392 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,600 Speaker 1: be fine. Yeah, But I don't think they've gotten to 1393 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 1: the point where two tight end set is high on 1394 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 1: the priority list for that. I think you might see 1395 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 1: a slight uptick in the amount of snaps that they 1396 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 1: use twelve personnel in comparison to last year, but I 1397 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,840 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be anything significant. Maybe it's 1398 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,839 Speaker 1: a two or three percent increase five at the most, 1399 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't either. You got too 1400 01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,800 Speaker 1: much receiver talent. Why would you go to that. That's 1401 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: the point. I think we had this idea that with 1402 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 1: OJ Howard and maybe Sweeney spreading his wings a little 1403 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 1: bit this year, that they would be able to go 1404 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 1: two tight end sets and then spread it out as well. 1405 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 1: Get spread them out, beat them wide with those two 1406 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 1: guys with Diggs and Davis and those two tight ends, 1407 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 1: spread them out and put James Cook out there or 1408 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 1: whatever whoever. Throw it out of that formation and throw 1409 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 1: it really effectively so as to change the defensive personnel. 1410 01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,559 Speaker 1: And if they did change it, you spread them out 1411 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,439 Speaker 1: and bring them back in tight and then run out 1412 01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:04,639 Speaker 1: of it behind two big tight ends. Yeah. I don't 1413 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,000 Speaker 1: see that happening. Yeah. At this point, which brings us 1414 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,320 Speaker 1: to Steve's comment on the tweetchieve my choice is the 1415 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 1: entire tight end room behind Dawson Knox. To me, this 1416 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,599 Speaker 1: is the most perplexing position group by far. I thought 1417 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,960 Speaker 1: OJ Howard was going to be the guy, without a doubt, 1418 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 1: but he's been invisible for the most part according to 1419 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,599 Speaker 1: reports from practice. Who is going to step it up? Well, 1420 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,320 Speaker 1: As you said, Steve, the guy that's flashed the most 1421 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,080 Speaker 1: after Dawson Knox has been Quintin Morris, the former undrafted 1422 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 1: rookie from last year. And here's the key as far 1423 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:38,360 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. He's a former receiver that was converted 1424 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 1: to the tight end position. He has natural hands in 1425 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,880 Speaker 1: the passing game, and they've shown up from time to time. 1426 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean not every day like Dawson Knox, but I 1427 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 1: think of the other guys on the roster at tight end, 1428 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,280 Speaker 1: he's flashed the most in the passing I think Quinton 1429 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,559 Speaker 1: is one of those guys that is a quintessential poster 1430 01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:01,880 Speaker 1: child for the development team. He's better than he was 1431 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:06,759 Speaker 1: last year, way better, and if he continues in this track, 1432 01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 1: he's going to surpass a couple of the other guys, 1433 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:16,320 Speaker 1: Sweeney and maybe maybe Oj. So he's intriguing to intriguing 1434 01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 1: to me because he's got wide receiver skills and it's 1435 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 1: a throwing league. Yeah, I'm I'm with you that the 1436 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:30,599 Speaker 1: tight end room is very, very intriguing for this preseason. 1437 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 1: I want to see if these guys can do. I 1438 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:33,720 Speaker 1: want to see a guy, you know, get some like 1439 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,760 Speaker 1: an Oj Howard or Tommy Sweeney, somebody besides Dawson Knox, 1440 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 1: who we kind of feel like we know about some 1441 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,840 Speaker 1: of the other guys. Let's see what they got. Give 1442 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,880 Speaker 1: him some opportunities, give him some targets in this game, 1443 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,320 Speaker 1: see how they respond and whether they can be a 1444 01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 1: game changers. I don't think we know that yet about 1445 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 1: any of them. Yeah, other than Knox, right, I get 1446 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:56,439 Speaker 1: what you're saying. This one. Let me see here, this 1447 01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 1: is this person liked it who tweeted Chris says, Jamison 1448 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 1: Crowder Hodgens is playing great Kumero outstanding special teamer. If 1449 01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 1: McKenzie starts in the slot, Shakier can back up, may 1450 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,760 Speaker 1: not need Crowder, which may allow us to keep third 1451 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,680 Speaker 1: tight end instead of six wide receivers go bills. I 1452 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,679 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I don't see anyway that Jamison Crowder 1453 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:23,760 Speaker 1: is not on this roster. He is a proven veteran performer, 1454 01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:30,320 Speaker 1: and for me, in a year where you are going 1455 01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:35,280 Speaker 1: for the whole Enchilada, you need as many capable veteran 1456 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:39,240 Speaker 1: players as you can find, and Jamison Crowder is that 1457 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,600 Speaker 1: in a big way. And so even if Isaiah McKenzie 1458 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:48,679 Speaker 1: is the quote unquote starter in the slot, that doesn't 1459 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,800 Speaker 1: mean Jamison Crowder is off this roster in any way, 1460 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,720 Speaker 1: shape or form as I see it. And let's not 1461 01:23:54,800 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 1: forget this. Isaiah McKenzie is diminutive in stature, knock on wood. 1462 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 1: He's been a very available player, very healthy player, but 1463 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,679 Speaker 1: he's never had a role this large in an offense. 1464 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:16,639 Speaker 1: Seventeen games is a long season. A guy of similar stature, 1465 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,360 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley could not get through a seventeen game season 1466 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:24,120 Speaker 1: without getting nicked up in both twenty twenty and twenty 1467 01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,200 Speaker 1: twenty one because it was Isaiah McKenzie filling in for 1468 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,679 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley in a very important Week sixteen game against 1469 01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots. And he answered, so, if you lose McKenzie 1470 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:39,240 Speaker 1: for two weeks, I love Shakier, but give me the 1471 01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,639 Speaker 1: veteran and a must have situation in the regular season, 1472 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,599 Speaker 1: maybe in an important division game or two. Maybe maybe 1473 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir can you know, can earn that trust? Yeah, 1474 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,080 Speaker 1: during the season. Look, I love Shakir, but we're going 1475 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,320 Speaker 1: for the whole banana this year, right, So I mean, 1476 01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm with you, and give me a veteran if he's 1477 01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 1: that important, you know, keep all three of those guys. Yes, 1478 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,240 Speaker 1: And there's nothing that says Crowder can't slide outside in 1479 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,240 Speaker 1: a pinch as well, or you know, switch places with 1480 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:14,840 Speaker 1: Davis and Digs or whoever. But Shakir, and we've done 1481 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 1: this before. We did it with Christian Wade for a 1482 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,480 Speaker 1: couple of years. You know, it comes in, it splashes 1483 01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,640 Speaker 1: in the preseason. Let's let's give it a chance. And 1484 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,000 Speaker 1: Christian weighs the perfect example of a guy who came 1485 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,320 Speaker 1: out and made a big splash in the preseason games, 1486 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,320 Speaker 1: but it didn't translate off the field into practices and 1487 01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,880 Speaker 1: the preparation and his understanding of what was really going 1488 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:38,600 Speaker 1: on because it was a rugby player. Yeah, all the 1489 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,960 Speaker 1: same stuff. We don't know about Shakir yet or even 1490 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,800 Speaker 1: Crowder or any of these guys. So, but Crowder is 1491 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,679 Speaker 1: a proven performer at this level. He's got one season 1492 01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 1: in his entire career where he hasn't had at least 1493 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,679 Speaker 1: fifty receptions. You can't ignore that kind of proven production 1494 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:57,120 Speaker 1: on bad teams. Yeah, Washington in the Jets, guy produced 1495 01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,080 Speaker 1: on bad teams. Put him in a good offense. It 1496 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:05,759 Speaker 1: could flourish here, Yeah, he could. And it's right. I'm 1497 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,759 Speaker 1: interested to see how much and probably a significant amount 1498 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,519 Speaker 1: how much the Bills do give, how much credit they 1499 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,200 Speaker 1: give him for what he's done, not only for the 1500 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,320 Speaker 1: Jet but against them, and sell their defense. They've seen 1501 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 1: him play against themselves. That's big. Crowder probably gets a 1502 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 1: little bit of benefit from that if you're the Bills, because, 1503 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:24,920 Speaker 1: let's face it, a lot of these guys they got 1504 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,120 Speaker 1: to come in and earn it. Saffold, Kesson, Berry, all 1505 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,680 Speaker 1: of these players from other teams, these free agents. They 1506 01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 1: got to say, Okay, let's see Tim Settle, let's see play. 1507 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,000 Speaker 1: But Crowder has been killing us for years against us. 1508 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,160 Speaker 1: Now they've seen Saffold play against him a couple of 1509 01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,720 Speaker 1: times once a year in the last few years. That 1510 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,439 Speaker 1: kind of stuff happens, and that does go a long way. 1511 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,840 Speaker 1: But Crowder is a guy the Bills tried to get 1512 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,200 Speaker 1: three years ago before he signed with the Jets, so 1513 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,599 Speaker 1: they know him. They tried to get Crowder before they 1514 01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,640 Speaker 1: signed Beasley. That's right. I just think about that for 1515 01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,240 Speaker 1: a second. Right we have to take a break. When 1516 01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,640 Speaker 1: we come back, some of your final thoughts on the 1517 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 1: tweet each sheet, along with your advice for me regarding 1518 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,800 Speaker 1: my escape dog who won't stay in her crate and 1519 01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:11,479 Speaker 1: instead finds my son's bed far more comfortable. We'll address 1520 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,559 Speaker 1: those suggestions along with the final thoughts on the tweet sheet. 1521 01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:30,280 Speaker 1: Next here on One Bill's Live, Stay tuned. Welcome back 1522 01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 1: to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve task me with 1523 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,360 Speaker 1: you and one other thing I'll say about the slot 1524 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:39,240 Speaker 1: receiver thing and the whole Crowder debate with Isaiah. Look, 1525 01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,439 Speaker 1: it looks as though Isaiah does have a good grip 1526 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 1: on the top slot receiver rule. But we had an 1527 01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,880 Speaker 1: interesting conversation on our podcast Bills by the Numbers with 1528 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:55,560 Speaker 1: Bill's Receivers coach Chad Hall, and we proposed this to him, 1529 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,200 Speaker 1: which and the question was, could you see the slot 1530 01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 1: receiver position being a aired role? And he said, yeah, 1531 01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,120 Speaker 1: it could happen. Yeah, I mean he didn't say it's 1532 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 1: definitely happening, but he didn't rule it out as a possibility. Well, 1533 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:14,479 Speaker 1: it's a seventeen game season. Yeah, yeah, that's and you 1534 01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,240 Speaker 1: don't ever want to be without one of those guys 1535 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 1: in today's NFL. Those guys are so crucial and like 1536 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,160 Speaker 1: it used to be, you know, good tight end as 1537 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,519 Speaker 1: a young quarterback's best friend or running game as a 1538 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:27,000 Speaker 1: bet quarterback's best friend. Slot receivers with the way they 1539 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 1: run their offenses. Now the guy comes off the ball 1540 01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:31,880 Speaker 1: and just looks for a place to get open. He 1541 01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:36,080 Speaker 1: goes there. Yeah, it's his read. So and the quarterback 1542 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 1: reads the same thing. So it's very easy throw. And 1543 01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 1: a guy with a guy like Josh and his arm 1544 01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,040 Speaker 1: he's bank puts it right on him. It's a completion. 1545 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,360 Speaker 1: Let's go. You gotta have one of those guys on 1546 01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 1: the field, and you know that right now they've got 1547 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,040 Speaker 1: three pretty good ones. And with Shakier playing like he's playing, 1548 01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,439 Speaker 1: no question. Some of the advice that you pass along 1549 01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,759 Speaker 1: regarding my escape dog who won't stay in or crazing instead, 1550 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,800 Speaker 1: it's my son's bed better west Side Tom Thanks you 1551 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,680 Speaker 1: said put something of my son's in the cage with 1552 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 1: the dog. Give me the roothing. And then Jeremy says 1553 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,960 Speaker 1: about your dog who misses your son, My wife suggests 1554 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,439 Speaker 1: placing an article of clothing in your son's crate to 1555 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,799 Speaker 1: help make him feel better. We will try that. Thanks 1556 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 1: for the advice, Stevie Johnson on the show tomorrow. We'll 1557 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,799 Speaker 1: see it one