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Speaker 1: Is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, and the trade deadline has just passed

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Okay, just this minute, just this minute.

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Speaker 1: Things might trickle in while we're live here, though that

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Speaker 1: usually is the case that usually we don't get This

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Speaker 1: is not though the trade deadline and other sports. No,

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Speaker 1: but it's picked up since my childhood or so. I

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Speaker 1: was expecting a lot of action today. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: I was on the edge. I see it all day. Still,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm still kind of hoping. But I thought

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of potential. There was a lot

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Speaker 1: of talk in little action thus far. I mean assuming, well,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine, like if anybody always go to this point, yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably not happen. I mean, within the last half hour

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Speaker 1: we've heard things like Fletcher Cox is not getting traded,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is not getting traded. You know, some of

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Speaker 1: those things get firmed up. I don't know. I just

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Speaker 1: saw so many sellers in the league right now that

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, five of those bad teams might

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Speaker 1: just be moving anybody you want. Um. The Steelers did

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Speaker 1: make a move, trading Melvin Ingram to the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs for a sixth round draft pick. Interestingly enough, Matt,

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Speaker 1: that sixth round pick is a pick that Kansas City

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Speaker 1: gut from Baltimore in the Orlando Brown Tree. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: that's the Ravens six on pick. Okay, I didn't put two,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't know that. I mean, I guess you

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Speaker 1: wanted out. Tomlin has his famous saying. I think he

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Speaker 1: said it about love Bell to the You know, we

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Speaker 1: want contributors and we want uh not hostages. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to hostages is what we don't want to forget what

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Speaker 1: they did want. Contributors are enthusiastic people that want to

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Speaker 1: be here. However, you phrase it much better than we

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Speaker 1: just did to say the least on the spot there,

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Speaker 1: I haven't story. I knew it a minute ago too,

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Speaker 1: and I'll say it later, I'm sure. Um, So I

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Speaker 1: guess you get somewhat of a malcontent out of the building.

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe I was hoping for a little more

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Speaker 1: in a six round pick, to be honest, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just don't for guys like that. I think the

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Speaker 1: original offer was a seventh and some other teams got

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Speaker 1: involved and kids are started up a little bit. Up

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Speaker 1: to a six that's what you're gonna get for a

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Speaker 1: thirty two year old guy that you're writing. You're writing, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna get. I mean, honestly, if I'm

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I'd be happy to get them. They need

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Speaker 1: all the help they can get we can. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we'll talk Chiefs next segment with Power Ranks, and last

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Speaker 1: night their defense is a nightmare. I think Ingram is

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Speaker 1: a good player. I mean, um, I think he was

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Speaker 1: a quality third guy here. Apparently that didn't make him

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Speaker 1: happy enough, and we know all those things. But my

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Speaker 1: logic with you know, the sixth rounder, was what if

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Speaker 1: he held him for the rest of the year and

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Speaker 1: then two years from now or a year from now,

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Speaker 1: you weren't going to get more in a six round

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Speaker 1: draft pick and conpensutory'd be about the same, right, But

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Speaker 1: he's least having the rest of he's not going to

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Speaker 1: sign a contract for twelve million a year or something

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Speaker 1: like that. That's not happening. Those days are done for him,

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Speaker 1: so they probably they probably made out on that deal.

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Speaker 1: I just figured, you know, a six round this year

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Speaker 1: versu a six round. Put it this way, Mike Hilton

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Speaker 1: will let you a six round draft pick. And he

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Speaker 1: signed a four year, four million dollar deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: now that makes sense, I guess. But and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: have dumped a few of those later picks and one

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Speaker 1: more would sure help. Um. I don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: more to say about it. I but I thought he

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Speaker 1: brought my get moved. Um. He's another one to get

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Speaker 1: very little for and in return to, you know, so

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Speaker 1: that's theture of the business. Yeah. When you look at

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Speaker 1: the pass rush edge win rates. Um T J. Watt

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's just he wasn't he wasn't one

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Speaker 1: I think it's a loss just because, yeah, you lose

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Speaker 1: some depth there, but the depth in the rotation, but

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Speaker 1: he hasn't played great lately. What happened was they felt

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Speaker 1: comfortable Sunday was kind of a tryout for Taco Charlton. Yea,

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Speaker 1: give us what Melvin Ingram was giving us. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean when the Taco Taco Charlton actually is a bigger

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Speaker 1: you know, he's he's big. He's six six five pounds.

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Speaker 1: If you wanted to put him in the interior, he's

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Speaker 1: done some of that on some of the some of

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Speaker 1: those hold up a little bit um, you can do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you guys a former first round draft pick. There's some

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Speaker 1: talent there. He just never He's actually drafted two spots

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Speaker 1: ahead of t. J. Watt. Yeah, I guess he was

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Speaker 1: that that edge draft. Yeah, that started with Garrett. There

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Speaker 1: were a lot of people thought Taco Charlton was coming

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Speaker 1: here in I always thought of him as more of

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Speaker 1: that's a fine line. ANYMO doesn't drop those guys very much.

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Speaker 1: And you know he's stout against the run, he's got size.

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Speaker 1: There is ability there. Yeah, by no means like cutting

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Speaker 1: on taco. I'm kind of excited about him, and apparently

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Speaker 1: they are too. I think Ingram, if truly he wanted

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Speaker 1: he should wish what be careful what he wishes for.

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Speaker 1: Because I thought he was best early in the season

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Speaker 1: as a fresh, rotational guy. And the more he played,

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Speaker 1: the more he don't say got exposed, but the more

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Speaker 1: You know again, I think that when you look at

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Speaker 1: getting a sixth round pick for that guy, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: for a fifth rounder. This year he was a fifth,

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Speaker 1: so they traded a future fourth. Um they and maybe,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe louder Milk fills some of that role

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Speaker 1: know people are still he's not playing. He's a depth

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Speaker 1: You know, in week twelve, if Joe Hayden misses a

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Speaker 1: that they made the trade for a Kello Weatherspoon. He's

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Speaker 1: a free agent after the year though, right correct now

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Speaker 1: he you might get something in return for in terms,

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Speaker 1: sure if you don't play him between now and the season,

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Speaker 1: and I bet you can sign him at your price.

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Speaker 1: And there's that, you know what I mean, If you

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Speaker 1: bringing Hayden back at thirty two, you know, we'd like

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Speaker 1: to bring it back here. You've had a year in

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Speaker 1: the system. Now maybe you like it here, maybe you don't,

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Speaker 1: but we, you know, we we'd like to have you

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Speaker 1: be part of the system here. Yeah. Yeah. Um, do

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Speaker 1: you think the biggest thing prohibiting him is just special

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Speaker 1: special teams? Yeah? Justin Lanes is a better special teams player.

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Speaker 1: He's a core special teamer. Yeah. I mean in terms

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Speaker 1: of staff counts, it's on special teams. There's only a

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Speaker 1: handful of guys have been on the field more than Lane,

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Speaker 1: so they count on him and Ampere your two gunners.

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Speaker 1: If Witherspoon was better, he would be on the field,

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Speaker 1: if Hayden were to go down this week, or you know,

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Speaker 1: to be part of the would be active. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: then whether or not he plays over Lane, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's figure that out. Yeah, that probably battled out, but

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Speaker 1: that for you know, I asked um Tarrell Austin about

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Speaker 1: better be a damn good special teams player. Absolutely to

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Speaker 1: It's almost like a fifth wide receiver or third running back,

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Speaker 1: like their main job is special teams and maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: if he's not a if he's not an accomplished special

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're unhappy with that trade. If

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Speaker 1: it back and take the pick? Maybe, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: know corners with his dimensions and his traits are valuable.

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Speaker 1: So having another one in the building for what there's

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Speaker 1: more games or whatever is has value. Yeah. Again, if

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Speaker 1: term answer to things happen um teams that are healthy

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Speaker 1: right now. It might not be three ye, So but

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Speaker 1: you're right about Taco. I mean it's a really good

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Speaker 1: uh opportunity for him to revive his career younger. There

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Speaker 1: is ability there, physical guy, so maybe he's a long

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Speaker 1: term three yeah. Um. And so the trades that went

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Speaker 1: down were Dan Brown to the Chiefs, Laurent Daverney Tardiff

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Speaker 1: with Laverne Tardiff. I mean he was a starting guard

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Speaker 1: three targets. He's got thirty three catches, so sixty two

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Speaker 1: Robinson's got forty four targets. He's caught twenty six. That's

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Speaker 1: a fifty nine point one percent completion percentage. He's played

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Speaker 1: ever just over five targets again, five and a half

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Speaker 1: targets a game. Cole Commet has thirty six targets twenty

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Speaker 1: passes for nine yards of catch. Marque's Goodwin Levin for uh,

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Speaker 1: he's just speed, yeah. Damian Williams running back Levin for fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Khalil Herbert, who's been starting now has nine nine catches

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Speaker 1: think Cole committz got a nice future ahead of him.

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Speaker 1: And they play a lot of double tight end sets.

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Speaker 1: Not as much as the Browns, but you see a

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Speaker 1: big play guy, good after the catch. We know who

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Speaker 1: that's a real problem, especially if it's on an anticipatory thrower.

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Speaker 1: Here's the big thing, Matt, you look really scares you.

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Speaker 1: Mooney is a sixty eight yard catch. Take that out

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Speaker 1: Robinson has a twenty eight yard catch. He's averaging ten

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Speaker 1: point four yards a catch. Yeah, it's pretty um commit

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Speaker 1: As a twenty two yard catch, he only has a

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Speaker 1: You know, this is not an offense that challenges you

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Speaker 1: at all. No, And as we were talking about before,

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Speaker 1: mean turnovers and sacks and things like that. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, as the Steelers found that last year.

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Speaker 1: When you throw everything within five to eight yards of

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Speaker 1: body takes a beating too. Um um. Doing my working

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Speaker 1: It's a good number. I mean it's not the top

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Speaker 1: that's a very respectable number. Chase clay Pools at one

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Speaker 1: mean that's Allen Robinson. I mean that's criminal, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so basically, he's catching a pass one set

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Speaker 1: I mean for I mean he's getting he's averaging ten

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Speaker 1: So essentially, for every ten pass routes he runs. He

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Speaker 1: not a big play or a game changing play. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a little worried that maybe it's only

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Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. But anyways, let's take a break.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. It is Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: That means it is Power Ranking days. We'll take a

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Speaker 1: look at that when we come back. I would have

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Speaker 1: hated to do Power rankings this week. My goodness. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned my my podcast partner, and I decided tomorrow we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do a FC Power Rags. That's the worst. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's between like two and twelve. You can kind of

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Speaker 1: shake them all up. Yeah, I don't know who to

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Speaker 1: put too. Yeah, I have no idea either, But we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that right after this. He has Mett Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. You're on listening to the drive here

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