WEBVTT - Infamous OG: Kasey Kahl

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Higgins and Ashley I bring you infamous.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes roses are red flags.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, everybody. It's Tristas Sutter and of course I

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<v Speaker 1>am just half half to a whole of the Almost

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<v Speaker 1>Famous OG podcast. So I'll be talking to Casey Call today.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, if you watched Ali Fedotowski season or Ali

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<v Speaker 1>Manto now, she dated Casey and he is known for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple things that we will definitely get into on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. He's sang a very unique song, he got

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<v Speaker 1>a tattoo. He was dropped off on a glacier, or

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<v Speaker 1>he not dropped off, he was basically said goodbye to

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<v Speaker 1>you on a glacier while Ali and this other guy

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<v Speaker 1>flew away in a helicopter. So I'm sure if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys watched it, these things are bringing back memories as

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<v Speaker 1>I speak. Anyway, I am really excited to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Casey and hear all about how life is for him

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<v Speaker 1>now and want to welcome him to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you so much. It's so good to

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<v Speaker 2>see you. Last time I saw you as in Vegas Homegirl,

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<v Speaker 2>long long, long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I was literally going to say bachelor pad when I

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<v Speaker 1>when I read that you it reminded me because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a brain these days. I mean, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>look at this, Scott. Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, it brought back memories of when we were

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<v Speaker 1>in Vegas and I was watching you guys crawl on

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<v Speaker 1>a big, huge wall.

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<v Speaker 2>That was crazy, and I felt like, man, I could

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<v Speaker 2>have done so much better. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>under that pressure is like, Okay, we're in the final

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<v Speaker 2>three or whatever of the Bachelor Pad and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we got all the tensions going, and You're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to perform. And then Staglano goes and busts

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<v Speaker 2>out the best coolest move and I'm like, why did

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<v Speaker 2>not think of that? Man? I'm like, dang it, God

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<v Speaker 2>he had me. You got my number on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Oh my god, brings back memories.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's good to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you. It's good to see you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to kind of go back to the beginning, very

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<v Speaker 1>beginning for how we met Casey and how it all started.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you hear about the show and how

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<v Speaker 1>did you end up auditioning or getting nominated?

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<v Speaker 2>So ironically it kind of goes back actually to you

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<v Speaker 2>and Ryan. Honest I watched You guys on the initial

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<v Speaker 2>show and it inspired me thinking like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so cool to find love in such a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>grandiose away. Because I'm a cheese ball. I'm a hopeless romantic.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I can't help that's never changed, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my wife gets annoyed by it sometimes, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can't help myself, you know. But I remember watching

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<v Speaker 2>You Guys show and it worked for you guys, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking to myself, you know what that's that's really cute.

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<v Speaker 2>And then fast forward, you know, twenty five, I think

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<v Speaker 2>years old, twenty six. You know, I was single. My

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<v Speaker 2>sister obviously didn't think I can get a date in

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<v Speaker 2>real life, so she applied for me online. And so

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<v Speaker 2>she applied for me to become the Bachelor, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I got cross or phone call, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>did all the casting, all the testings, all the whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and walk the whole you know, that whole dance, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. And sure enough, you know they

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<v Speaker 2>put me on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, crazy, right, how that all works? Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love that we inspired you. That makes

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<v Speaker 1>me so happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, little that I know. I mean it was. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a really interesting dynamic, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, oh yeah, I mean please. It's the most

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<v Speaker 1>untraditional way to meet someone. But it can work out.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it can. It can. It did for y'all, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I love to see. And you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>happy and that's all that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, it can work out. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>it worked out directly for Ryan and I, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it is part of everyone whoever's part of Bachelor Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of all of our paths, and those paths

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<v Speaker 1>lead to your future relationships whatever. Maybe right, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have met your wife had you not gone

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bachelorette. You know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I can assure you this that had I not gone

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bachelor, I would not have learned the things

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<v Speaker 2>that I've learned today in a real marriage and a

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<v Speaker 2>real relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I am. I am so excited that you said that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would love to get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>How deep you want to get to a little bit later?

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<v Speaker 2>Deep you want to get today? Honey?

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<v Speaker 1>I like gause you want.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about if you can ask the right questions today.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the pressure, pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to entice the audience a little bit, little little,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, little enticement.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I love it. Okay, we'll definitely get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you walked into the mansion, and was it

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<v Speaker 1>the mansion that it is now or were you guys

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<v Speaker 1>in a different place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, we were in the original. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>OG's too, you know, we we got to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that big mansion and that big beautiful pool

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<v Speaker 2>and you know all the fun things that came with

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<v Speaker 2>that too. And I think our season was like the

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<v Speaker 2>height of like of where the bachelorette started to become

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<v Speaker 2>really popular. Of the bachelorette, right, it wasn't just the

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<v Speaker 2>bachelor now, that was about the bachelorette that was looking

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<v Speaker 2>for love. And I think that the season was so heightened,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we had so many great dudes on

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<v Speaker 2>that show. I mean, I think that was the coolest

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<v Speaker 2>part is that you know, that actually is how Bachelor

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<v Speaker 2>pad was created because we were so cool and so

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<v Speaker 2>we started doing appearances and started doing fun things, and

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<v Speaker 2>so the production was like, oh dude, you are you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are creating drama in all you guys own little world.

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<v Speaker 2>We need we need to emphasize on that. And so

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<v Speaker 2>cue Bachelor Pad. You know, that's why all the reunions started.

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<v Speaker 2>We just started doing these things. You know, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of crazy how it all worked out, but you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely a union.

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<v Speaker 1>It is crazy, yeah, very much. So okay, so when

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<v Speaker 1>you walked into the mansion, how how are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there anything that surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>You at this point? You know, as I'm going through

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<v Speaker 2>all the production of it, right and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of watching from the outside, kind of evaluating the situation,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'm trying to see, Okay, I got

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<v Speaker 2>I got five guys in my limo boom boom boom.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they competition? Are they a threat? You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of process all these things and then you and

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<v Speaker 2>then the production side comes. Okay, So like Trista, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to say when you first see Ali

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<v Speaker 2>or you know that that's what that's what the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they bait you. You know what I mean, they bait

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<v Speaker 2>They bait you a little bit, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking to myself, you know, I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>an impression, you know, I want I want to come

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<v Speaker 2>out and I want her to know that I'm genuine,

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm authentic, and then yeah, I'm a little cheeseball too.

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<v Speaker 2>But how do I do all that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And so my grandma always told me to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>make godly choices, and she always said that at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, when you get married, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you got and protect the heart of your future life, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was biblical. That's what I wanted to say

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<v Speaker 2>to this, and you know, it kind of became like

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<v Speaker 2>a line throughout the rest of the of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, kind of a catchphrase that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of took fire to what I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>accomplish with Ali. You know. So it was really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of see, like, Okay, I have to I

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<v Speaker 2>have to plot out what I'm going to do and

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<v Speaker 2>say to try and catch this girl's attention in the

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<v Speaker 2>midst of all this other big production of these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I got to figure out something. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's what I came up with.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, you were good at it. You caught

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<v Speaker 1>her attention and all of ours. Okay, So Bachelor Nation

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<v Speaker 1>fans definitely remember getting our attention caught when you sang

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<v Speaker 1>a song for her in New York on your date

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<v Speaker 1>and after the helicopter ride. And I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>know did you write that song after your helicopter date,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the spur of the moment or ahead of time?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you thinking about it ahead of time? And had

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<v Speaker 1>you ever sung to a woman before.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question, That's a great question, you know. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely cheeseballing. I don't mind. I'm not a singer,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like to you know, I like to be cheesy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I think I made a

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<v Speaker 2>song at the end of the mentel all too you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like it's just be I played

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<v Speaker 2>on it right. So but the reality of that situation

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<v Speaker 2>is I'm not just going to come out and sing

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<v Speaker 2>to a girl on a first date, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I'm not going to do that, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. We're out in the middle of New York.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's kind of going crazy a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, this is where I start to realize

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<v Speaker 2>this is more of a production than it is that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find love, you know. And so we're

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<v Speaker 2>out in the middle of New York and we're hanging out,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'm trying to have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>Ali because it's just us and we're about to go

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<v Speaker 2>in this big, beautiful ship and do this big date.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing I'm like, y oh, this is so cool,

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<v Speaker 2>like just in a conversation, and she wanted nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with me. So I was like, all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's our date, you know, And yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's real, you know. And so at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, I know what time it is, and

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<v Speaker 2>I could realize that I'm not her choice, right, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not her pick, and I'm not going to try and

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<v Speaker 2>convince her to be a pick, you know. I'm like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just have fun with it, right. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>Bachelor producers, as some you may know, you know, they are,

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<v Speaker 2>they're interesting people, and they want drama and they want

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of really drum up things to build drama

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<v Speaker 2>and build the facts. So, you know, we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things, and we discussed some things that

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<v Speaker 2>could happen to be dramatic, and one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>was singing a song. And I said, you want me

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<v Speaker 2>to sing a song to a girl on a date,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we literally I said screw it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, whatever. You know, she don't like me anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so whatever. You know, I'm like, I might as well

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<v Speaker 2>make a fool of myself and at least get some exposure. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I literally jumped up there. I made up

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<v Speaker 2>some song on the whim. On the whim by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>you're laughing because it's this is real. This is I

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<v Speaker 2>finally get to share all this stuff, right, this is

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<v Speaker 2>so much fun because this is real. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>reality of it. I made that song up on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even remember what it was. And if had

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<v Speaker 2>I made that song up today, it would be memed

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere on Instagram. It was yeah, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>so embarrassing, you know. And the way that they cut

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<v Speaker 2>it out too, There was more than just that too,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. It was just they made it look like

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<v Speaker 2>a really awkward moment, and I, you know, I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so that's how that went down.

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<v Speaker 1>So was it awkward for you? You said it, They

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<v Speaker 1>made it look like an awkward moment. Was it awkward

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment, No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I may spent I maybe spent five minutes with Ali,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like, you know, you're laughing

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<v Speaker 2>because you know it's true too. You know there's certain

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<v Speaker 2>things well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm laughing because you're you're shining so much

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<v Speaker 1>light on the situation in terms of in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like the fact that you were like, she's not interested

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<v Speaker 1>in me, so I'm just gonna have fun with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so much perspective on that situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but see, that's the thing is that no one understands.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get deeper too. Wait, it's not over yet, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>We're just getting warmed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Good good, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>In those moments. You know, those were my authentic self.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were just playcated and produced to exemplify

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<v Speaker 2>a certain persona that the production wanted to show. And

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I just went with it, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I had fun. You know, I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on National TV. Am I going to be made

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<v Speaker 2>fun of? Probably? Yeah? Cool? Like, but am I here

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<v Speaker 2>to find love? I really was. I didn't find it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to find it, so I might as

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<v Speaker 2>well enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love your perspective for real. It is so it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's so endearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So you had mentioned that sometimes the like to

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<v Speaker 1>bait you a little bit, and and you said, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like start asking my questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you have an NDA like baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Not anymore? Baby, let's go oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you were you you you said that the

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<v Speaker 1>producers like to bait you know sometimes, So are you

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<v Speaker 1>saying that you were baited a little bit? And then

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<v Speaker 1>you just went along with it. You're like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>she has shown that maybe she's not very interested in me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna have fun with this, and if

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<v Speaker 1>the producers want to bait me, I'm gonna be baited.

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<v Speaker 2>I negotiated my way on multiple more episodes. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, yes, wait a way to whoa whoa whoa? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on you negotiation. Yes, you negotiated. You talked to

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<v Speaker 1>the producers and you said, if I'm do this, this and.

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<v Speaker 2>This wing, yes, facts I could drop. There's so much

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<v Speaker 2>more to We're gonna go down a deep rabbit hole today, girl.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I got a loving da I've been waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for this moment. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>My gosh, you are making me so happy.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, trust me, I know, I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, so what you said, Okay, fine, Well if

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<v Speaker 1>I sing for her, you're gonna put me on more

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<v Speaker 1>shows because, like you mentioned, you wanted a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little not the shirt, not the song, not the song.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're going deeper. I'm just I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get as much out of the song.

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<v Speaker 2>This song. The song is not.

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<v Speaker 1>This song is not very much. The song was okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're good with the song.

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<v Speaker 2>Song was cool. It was. I made that up. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>make up another one right now for you, right now, trusted,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I don't even care. Can

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<v Speaker 2>we till the end of the episode. I got it

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<v Speaker 2>getting back in the mood, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, done and done. We'll do it at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be the little icing on the top of the cake. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So next comes, or and maybe not next because it

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<v Speaker 1>has been a while since I watched the show. But next,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like the moments that you are remembered for,

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<v Speaker 1>was the tattoo moment, right, Okay, So you mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>your grandma. I love that you brought in that your

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<v Speaker 1>grandma always told you to find someone who will guard

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<v Speaker 1>and protect your heart, and that had always been a

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<v Speaker 1>thing for you. So it wasn't something like you came

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<v Speaker 1>onto the show thinking, oh, I want to be kitchy

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, have a little time.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's pause out because the back to the first

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<v Speaker 2>night when I said that I was gonna when I

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<v Speaker 2>said I'm going to guard and protect your heart, every

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<v Speaker 2>producer on that show, this is when I knew that

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<v Speaker 2>this was more than just that. Every producer on that

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<v Speaker 2>show came up to me and said, Hey, go tell

0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the guys you're going to guarden and protect her heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Go tell that. I go. Go that guy's here for

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong reasons. Justin Rigo rate it are, he's here

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<v Speaker 2>for the wrong reasons. Go tell him he's here for

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong reasons, and go punk him and go say

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna guard and protect her heart. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it was happening at that point, right, I'm like, Okay,

0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.800
<v Speaker 2>you guys are really pushing me to say this, and

0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm not crazy and I'm not stupid, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. So again I'm like, I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>here to enjoy myself and I'm going to go with it,

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<v Speaker 2>which goes hand in hand. And it actually is what

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<v Speaker 2>really got me pretty far in Bachelor Pad too, because

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<v Speaker 2>I played the producers at their own game when they

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<v Speaker 2>try to put Jake Paboka, my girlfriend's X, on my show,

0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and I said, that's not what I wanted, and they

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<v Speaker 2>did that anyways, So there's hole much like, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much more to this that we can go down, but

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<v Speaker 2>we can go back to the tattoo and stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>that's fun too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we will for sure go back to the tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>But you just mentioned your girlfriend's ex. So you were

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<v Speaker 1>dating Vienna at the time of Bachelor Pad. Oh okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was.

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<v Speaker 2>On there and so yeah, and they and they were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to they were trying to get me off the

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<v Speaker 2>show as fast as they could because they wanted Jake

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<v Speaker 2>and Vienna to have this like type of thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this on the war board, and so when

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that they were trying to gun for me

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<v Speaker 2>off the show, I rallied the rest of the cast

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew for a second that I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to give I wasn't get voted.

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<v Speaker 1>Off Okay, wait a second, what is a reward board?

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<v Speaker 1>Reward board a war war board room?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, this is a production room where they actually have

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<v Speaker 2>storylines and things that are in the background, where they

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<v Speaker 2>can see where they're how they're trying to draw out

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<v Speaker 2>the story and what they're trying to accomplish. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's real too, by the way, in case you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait a second, I did know that, but but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been around for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh girl, I know. That's why I love you, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's me interested, dude, this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is gonna be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so a war board. How did you see this?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this like an accidental viewing or what did they

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<v Speaker 1>bring you in the room? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I walked into the wrong room at the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>time at the right time for me, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>saw everything and I was like, oh wow, wow, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm not supposed to be here. Okay, that's because

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<v Speaker 2>they had, like they had like their finals all planned

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<v Speaker 2>out and everything, like, they have a storyboard that's aligned

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<v Speaker 2>with all that for sure. Well, and the producer's job

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<v Speaker 2>is to produce that story right, just like of course, of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course, yeah, of course, yes. I mean I have always.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I have always had good relationships

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<v Speaker 1>with the producers.

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<v Speaker 2>Because because you're the girl.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because I understand that this is their job. I

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<v Speaker 1>can be friends with them too, but I am able

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<v Speaker 1>to separate that in a way because I know that

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<v Speaker 1>they are they're doing their job.

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<v Speaker 2>Let may I ask you you've been You've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>this for a long time, Hunt, I'm sure you've seen

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<v Speaker 2>some tragic things, and I'm sure you've seen some things

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<v Speaker 2>that probably have gone, you know, unspoken about, and things

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<v Speaker 2>that you've seen on other episodes and other scenes and

0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.520
<v Speaker 2>other other seasons were like whoa Like that kind of

0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.640
<v Speaker 2>sucks for that person. You know, they're placating on that

0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.760
<v Speaker 2>person's emotions, they're playking on that person's credibility, you know

0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:54.680
<v Speaker 2>where they they can do that to you. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>where I really wanted to be vulnerable here, you know,

0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and be honest here. You know, some of the things

0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.080
<v Speaker 2>that happened on that show were hurtful, and I've lost

0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.600
<v Speaker 2>friends from this show that I can go into a deeper, deeper,

0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.199
<v Speaker 2>deeper dive if we really want to go down that,

0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, and and for me at the end of

0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the day, you know, I still suffer PTSD from certain

0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.040
<v Speaker 2>things that I have to read about myself or things

0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.560
<v Speaker 2>that happened to me, or that people speculate or judge

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<v Speaker 2>me on. You have to remember you want to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to today one Trista. I was so excited when

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<v Speaker 2>I was on this show. I had I had a

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<v Speaker 2>watch party. I had a watch party with my entire

0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.240
<v Speaker 2>friends and family at a beach house. I invited everyone

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<v Speaker 2>that I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>This.

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<v Speaker 2>The first episode went went great, but one of the

0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:38.800
<v Speaker 2>producers called me and told me and said, hey, just

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, there's going to be something a little

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<v Speaker 2>weird at the end of that season, but don't overreact.

0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.520
<v Speaker 2>It's just for dramatic effect. At the end of that.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of that at the end of that

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<v Speaker 2>first episode, in front of all of my friends and family,

0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.320
<v Speaker 2>they did a show all of what to expect to come.

0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.360
<v Speaker 2>They showed an ambulance picked me up, and they put

0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.639
<v Speaker 2>bandages on my wrist like I slit my wrist, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was suicidal over some girl. And that was in

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<v Speaker 2>front of my entire family. They didn't know that it

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<v Speaker 2>was a tattoo. You know, what I mean, there's certain

0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.639
<v Speaker 2>things that they didn't play kidd on. They do that

0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.760
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of people. That hurts a lot of people,

0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.119
<v Speaker 2>and that's not cool. And when you do that, it

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.160
<v Speaker 2>takes a toll on a lot of people psychologically and mentally,

0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:18.919
<v Speaker 2>and some people don't know how to deal with that

0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.280
<v Speaker 2>or compartmentalize that. And I think that's a really other

0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:26.159
<v Speaker 2>light that needs to be Shawn shine on. Because you know,

0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:30.199
<v Speaker 2>we all watched the show Unreal that I call it

0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.879
<v Speaker 2>a documentary because we know that all those things, the

0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.880
<v Speaker 2>relationships with producers and cast members, I watched, it happened.

0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I watched all these things. Now that show happened for

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<v Speaker 2>a reason. Unreal is as real as the Bacher gets.

0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:46.080
<v Speaker 2>It's as real as it gets the things that watch it.

0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Where it came from somewhere. And honestly, I related with

0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.280
<v Speaker 2>so much stuff on that show, like on a deep level,

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Like I really, I tell people, you're gonna know what

0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the Bacher's like watch Unreal. That was my experience. I

0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.439
<v Speaker 2>chose to take the high road and have fun and

0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.399
<v Speaker 2>enjoy it to the best that I could. But I

0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.600
<v Speaker 2>didn't know that I was being manipulated and gaslated to

0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.120
<v Speaker 2>look crazy, to sing songs, to get a tattoo. I'd

0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:10.879
<v Speaker 2>never get a tattoo for a girl. Everyone comes up

0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:12.320
<v Speaker 2>to me, you know what. They asked me, Hey, I

0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.320
<v Speaker 2>want to see Ali's name. I never got Ali's name

0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.240
<v Speaker 2>on my arm. It's a garden and protect hard badge,

0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.199
<v Speaker 2>that's all. That's what this is. It's biblical for my grandma.

0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I even said that on the show. I said, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I got this tattoo to represent my belief

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<v Speaker 2>and guarding protect the future wife in my life. Do

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's you? No, they didn't play that part,

0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:33.320
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. They just wanted to play

0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.399
<v Speaker 2>what they wanted to play to make me look foolish,

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and they did that, you know. And I think it's

0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:40.760
<v Speaker 2>been a long ten years to be able to be

0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.960
<v Speaker 2>open and honest about those moments that were taking advantage

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.240
<v Speaker 2>of my cheesiness. And my hope is romanticness, right. I

0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:48.960
<v Speaker 2>love big. I have a huge heart. I do a

0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:50.959
<v Speaker 2>lot of things for my community, like I you know,

0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm a big in the wellness and health and that's

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:55.960
<v Speaker 2>that's my whole goals is to help with autism with

0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:59.119
<v Speaker 2>my son, Like I have goals and bigger dreams, and

0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:01.560
<v Speaker 2>it took a long time to get to where I

0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:03.240
<v Speaker 2>am met today, to let go of a lot of

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 2>things that happened to me over the course of being

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<v Speaker 2>on TV, being on the Bachelorette, being on the Bachelor,

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.280
<v Speaker 2>pat you know, having a relationship, being under scrutiny with Vienna,

0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:15.880
<v Speaker 2>my entire relationship being imploded online, you know, on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been through some things that people will

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<v Speaker 2>never understand, and I'll never forget the first episode that

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<v Speaker 2>I was embarrassed in front of my family when they

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<v Speaker 2>made it look like I was cutting myself. How terrible

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<v Speaker 2>is that? Who does that? And then when I called

0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.040
<v Speaker 2>the producer and I want to say his name so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I called him and said, why would you do that

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<v Speaker 2>to me? Why would you make it look like I'm crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm gonna kill myself. Do you know what kind

0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 2>of message that sends to other people? You're literally affirming suicide.

0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Shame on you. He said, Oh, no, that's not what

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 2>it is, Casey, No, we would never do that. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you just trust me. It's all gonna be okay. You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna really look good in this situation. You're gonna come

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<v Speaker 2>off looking like a crystal clear great person. That's what

0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:00.320
<v Speaker 2>they did to me. The tattoo was my negotiation because

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to stay longer so I can get more exposure,

0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.640
<v Speaker 2>so I could eventually someday use this as a platform

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<v Speaker 2>for stuff like autism, so I can use it for

0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.679
<v Speaker 2>a good for a better, better, better being, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for for a better world, you know, not for gas

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<v Speaker 2>line and manipulation and things like that, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I did. I literally told them, you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to get this tattoo. Cool, they took me to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to tell you all the other of

0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:23.919
<v Speaker 2>the other things that came into it, but yes, a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that diego was me staying longer and being

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<v Speaker 2>able to go to Iceland and be able to make

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<v Speaker 2>it that long. There's no way that Ali wanted me

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<v Speaker 2>to stay and I stayed. You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>She'll tell you there's no way. I mean. I came

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<v Speaker 2>off so cheesy, and because that was I was being

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<v Speaker 2>encouraged to say I want to guard and protect your

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<v Speaker 2>heart so much, I came off as unauthentic and that's

0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.320
<v Speaker 2>not who I am. And so Ali didn't get to

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<v Speaker 2>even see the real real version of me, which sucks too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, But I feel like my global worldview

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<v Speaker 1>is that everything happens for a reason. And I assume,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into this, that you're you have a

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<v Speaker 1>very happy life with your wife and your kids, and

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and you wouldn't want to change anything and do anything

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<v Speaker 1>different because you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It all goes back to what I said that being

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<v Speaker 2>on this show taught me an education of how to

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<v Speaker 2>be a good man, to be a good dad, to

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.399
<v Speaker 2>be a good husband, you know, and to and to

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<v Speaker 2>and to lead my family, to lead like Jesus and

0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:25.400
<v Speaker 2>guide my family to a good, happy marriage, a good

0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 2>happy life, and to raise my son and to raise

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.480
<v Speaker 2>my new beautiful daughter. You know. That's that's all that

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I care about in this world. And that's all that

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever wanted, you know. And going through that experience,

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 2>it taught me like there there is a lot of

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.879
<v Speaker 2>other craziness in this world. And and and no matter

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<v Speaker 2>what happens, no matter what I go through, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>what I do, you have to be authentic. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to exaggerate, you don't need to play kate things,

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 2>you don't need to be something you're not. You don't

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 2>need to be somebody you're not. And I really tried

0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 2>to be someone that I wasn't going through that show,

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:59.320
<v Speaker 2>and it transpired throughout Bachelor Pad, I even through dating Vienna.

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, we had a great relationship when it was

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<v Speaker 2>just us, but outside of that, it was just it

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 2>was just dirty. It was just exposed. Everything was you know,

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>on highlights, you know, and that's not something that I'm

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 2>good with, you know. And the best thing that I

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.879
<v Speaker 2>did was finally part ways and we separated and she

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:17.439
<v Speaker 2>got to go home and heal, and I got to

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.879
<v Speaker 2>go home and heal, you know, from the show, you know,

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>from traumas of the being on TV and the production

0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 2>and the mind manipulation that happens on there. I mean,

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 2>there's just so much, you know, you don't know what's

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 2>real and what's not.

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes, going back to the tattoo, I am so enjoying

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 1>talking to you because I feel like it's just seriously,

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like so much of the show is, you know,

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>just what we're seeing and we're told certain things. And

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I've always thought you can't put words in someone's mouth,

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>but obviously you can show, you know, you take things

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 1>out of context whatever, or not into the entire story. Yeah,

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 1>and it seems like the entire story wasn't shown for

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 1>you because the garden protect your Heart was something that

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>your grandma taught you from a very it seems like

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>from a very young age. It's not something that you

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, I'm gonna say this for Ali just to

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's not out of the blue, and you've

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>got a tattoo because it was special to you. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you just chose to do it in that moment? Can

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 1>you take me to the moment of like when the

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>tattooed conversation came up? And how because because in my

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>experience on the show, it's not like you can leave

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and go like have little mini adventures, you know.

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah right.

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, right, So tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So yeah, so you know, at this point

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 2>of the show, I blow my date right with with Ali.

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, I sing tour right. So the story goes

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 2>and so now, yeah, producer, who is pretty pretty much

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.639
<v Speaker 2>as signed to me at this point, you know, starts

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 2>telling me you need to make a big splash, man,

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>we got to do something special. I'm looking at him like,

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I know what you're doing. Just tell me what you

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>think I should do like that. That's how the conversation

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.120
<v Speaker 2>went after a couple of shots of you know, whiskey

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 2>as usual. You know what I mean. There's no im

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.719
<v Speaker 2>without a drink, right, I mean, there's no such thing

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 2>as an im without a drink. So I mean we

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 2>made that it was for me.

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>There was for me, but that you were.

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Smarter than I was. Yeah, I was. I was the nerd,

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, that was trying to be the cool guy,

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 2>you know to the producers, you know, and they placated that,

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, they knew what to do

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 2>with that. So, you know, he tells me, what if

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 2>you got a tattoo. Mind, you have no tattoos at

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 2>this point, zero tattoos. Frowned upon by my grandma, frowned

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 2>upon by my mom, no tattoos. I'm never getting a

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>tattooed type of guy. So I'm sending them thinking to myself,

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 2>like I'm going to get a tattoo. I would never

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 2>get a tattoo. Okay, well, listen, here's the deal. I

0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 2>believe that I'm going to guard and protect the heart

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 2>of my future wife, and it's not Ali, but someone

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 2>else out there. Might be watching this and they might

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.120
<v Speaker 2>think my cheesiness is cute, and that woman will appreciate

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 2>my tattoo. And that's why I got that tattoo. So

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I said, Okay, I'm going to get the tattoo, but

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 2>under a couple of conditions. Number one, you're gonna go out.

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna I don't, I can't. I don't want to

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 2>say most other things. But they took me to a

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 2>really nice steak dinner. They treated me to all kinds

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 2>of nice and great things. They took me to multiple

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 2>places in Manhattan, New York. You know what I mean. Like,

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm out there, I'm doing the dang things.

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>This is just you, not any of the others.

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Me and my producer. Okay, this is me and my producer.

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Did was anyone else doing? Having little dates? Not dates obviously,

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>but okay, just get all stuck in the room.

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I was stuck in the hotel and I'm out doing this,

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I say, I and I and I

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 2>do not get voted off. And I said, I specifically

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 2>use that as a bargaining chip. I said, you can.

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 2>You can tell her however she wants to do it.

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 2>You can make it dramatic, but I do not get

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:07.680
<v Speaker 2>voted off tonight. Yeah deal, whoa I mean because it

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 2>means everything to me and my wife. Now my wife's

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 2>in my anniversary date is on my tattoo.

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that you added that.

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 2>Ah.

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I was just going to ask you, how do you feel?

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Because it's not like it's on your back, it's on

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>your wrist, so you see it all the time. How

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 1>do you You've mentioned PTSD, but when you look at

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it now you've been able to change it into something

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, super positive.

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Again, this memory will always be of me and mine

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 2>and my grandma and my mom and my wife and

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 2>all the things that mean special and close and dear

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 2>to my heart. That's all that this is. This will

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 2>always be a remembrance of that. There's no name, there's

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 2>no anything. It's always been this. It's never changed. Okay again,

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 2>it's always been a learning experience of saying, if I'm

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 2>going to do this, I'm going to enjoy it and

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try and take the best positive experience

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 2>from this that I can. And so that's what was

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 2>presented to me, and I said, Okay, it's rock and roll.

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I think I can put a tattoo on for my

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 2>future wife someday, and you know, and then we had

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 2>and then I had. Then we had to negotiate how

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I was going to present it to Ali right and

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 2>how I was going to show her that the tattoo,

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And I said, I didn't

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 2>want to do it. I actually didn't even want to

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 2>talk about it. I never brought it up. I tried

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 2>to hide it until we got to the glacier. And

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 2>once we got to that glacier, yeah, she goes, so

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I heard you got a tattoo. I was like, oh,

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>of course, of course, and they I wasn't even going

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 2>to show her. So then I finally said okay. So

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 2>then I rolled my sleeve and I say, yeah, I go,

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I did. I got a tattoo. And you know, I

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 2>did it because I want to guard and protect the

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>heart of my future wife, whoever that may be, someday.

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>And that was our conversation. And I knew at that

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 2>point that I was going to get left on that

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>glacier so dramatically, and so I just I just I

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>just went with it. And I stood there in the

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>middle of that iceberg, knowing that I was going to

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>look so silly. I was looking at the helicopter and

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>all I could think about was I gotta seriously ride

0:28:59.000 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the snowmobile back.

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, That's what I was gonna ask you too.

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>How do you get out of there? And how long

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>were you standing there, like just just by yourself.

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>You know as well as I do? No less than

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:15.239
<v Speaker 2>five seconds? You know what I mean? It was It

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 2>was for dramatic effect. I'm musting. They're watching the helicopter

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 2>go off, and I'm just pissed because I'm not taking

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the helicopter back. That's that's all I could think about,

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 2>because I get car sickness. Right I'm thinking, I gotta

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>go through all these mountains and glaciers on a freaking

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>snowmobile right now, I'm gonna get sick and then they're

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna put that on camera and they're gonna do something

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 2>with that too, you know.

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>What. The Actually I would feel the opposite. I would

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like the helicopter would give me motion sickness, not

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the snowmobile.

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Convenience and time, Get me the heck out of get

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 2>me back to the hotel. And by the way, by

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the way, one other one in my handlers that night,

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>so we were in Iceland, and I mean, I'm no,

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm going home. The next day we go out, we

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>go out to the club. I mean, Iceland is full

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 2>of beautiful people. By word, I got all these girls

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>coming up to me. I mean it is hilarious because

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even supposed to be in public and I'm

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>literally in Iceland partying with Iceland just people. Like it

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 2>was probably the most by myself with my handler and

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 2>we're just drinking out there. This is the night I get,

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I get left in Iceland. I'm just out partying, like

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 2>this was my last night. Like, no sadness, you know,

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like a heartbreak and didn't get me becazos.

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I already knew what was going to happen, you know

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So it wasn't like YA was sad

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 2>or anything. Yeah I was. I was sad that the

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>opportunity passed me by to actually really have a good,

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 2>valid conversation with Ali, because if she got to meet

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 2>the real me, I think that she would have been

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>things could have been different on that show. But again,

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>like you said, everything happens for a reason, and I like,

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I love that all the things I learned from that

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 2>because I know how to be a good husband.

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, it might have taken me a long time,

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, But at this point of

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 2>my life, I know how to be a good dad,

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I know how to be a good husband. I know'd

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 2>be a good business owner. I know how to be

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>a good person. And I think going through all those

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>things helped me understand through trauma of my own that

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to be somebody that I'm not. I

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be this big TV persona. You know

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>what the greatest part of my day is today that

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>when I walk outside, I don't get recognized as the

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 2>bachelor Kay anymore. In my own hometown. I get recognized

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 2>as the dad that's advocating for autism for his son.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>That's what I get recognized for. And that means more

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>to me than I can even explain to you.

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine. I yes, that that is amazing.

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you talked to Allie or run into her since

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the show?

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>So it's you know, I really wanted to have a

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>conversation with her after the whole thing is Me and

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Roberto were tight. I talked to Roberto rout Lampton's my

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>boy Chris.

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>We just had Chris Lampton on, actually we did, we did.

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I still reach out talked to him sometimes. He's a

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 2>great dad, great man. That's another really good guy. Again.

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Our season had so many good dudes on that show,

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 2>like you know, like Frank from Craig Roberto, I mean,

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>just great people. You know. I still follow all these guys,

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, love it. But that's but that was the

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 2>cool part of being a part of the show is

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the relations ships that I did build and people that

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 2>knew knew who I was deep to my core, you know,

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 2>and and accepted me for that because I wasn't always

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, authentic, you know what I mean. I was

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 2>always trying to be something that I wasn't for some

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 2>unknown reason, you know. And I think, I think, I think,

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 2>if I'm being honest, it was a lot of the production.

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, it really gave me the ego. They made me,

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 2>they pumped up my my ego, and they made me

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 2>feel like I was going to be bigger than what

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, and I really wasn't. I was

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>just a normal dude that was looking for love on

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>a TV show and didn't.

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Last you know, yeah, right right, But you you didn't

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>answer the question did did you have you run into

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Eli or.

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 2>With the guy. So when I was with Vienna, we

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 2>we actually did an appearance in San Diego and Kipton

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>and Tenley were there, and uh, you know, Kipton was

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 2>always my boy, and I always loved Tenley. Actually I

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 2>actually went on the show for Tenley I love. Ironically,

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I went on the show thinking it was Tenley the

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 2>whole time. Really, I got Ali and ended up with Vienna.

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 2>That is that is literally the truth. That is crazy. Yeah,

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 2>so crazy.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>So you saw her in San Diego.

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 2>We saw her in San Diego with Kipton and Tinley.

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I said, what up? I wanted up? I wanted to

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>try and spark a conversation, but she wasn't having it. Again,

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I also feel like production can manipulate

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>certain things and making you even think that someone is

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 2>what they aren't either, you know what I mean. And

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 2>placating my emotions and my cheesiness to make me sing

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a song and to make me do these things to

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Ali obviously seems very unauthentic to her, So she probably

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 2>thought that I was just an unauthentic dude. So I

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>don't blame her for not talking to me, I really

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 2>just want to have a conversation to get some truth.

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to understand, like, hey, so, like, what was

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the reality of that for you? I was more curious

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>about her side of things, you know, because when we

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 2>were trying to have conversations, we didn't get to have

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 2>even five minutes alone. We were in a bar, when

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 2>we were waiting in the middle of freaking New York

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>dive bar where no one else is. She's got her producer,

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 2>She's sitting on the other side of the bar. I'm

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the bar, and we can't

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>talk to each other because we're not supposed to save

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 2>it for the cameras. I'm like, this is like, oh,

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't come on. Yeah, you know, and that's hard.

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 2>That's hard to build a relationship or even a friendship,

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 2>you know with that. So again I don't blame Ali.

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>She she wasn't really nice to me, But again, she

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 2>probably thinks a certain way about me, and I can't

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 2>blame her for that.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Okay, So you went on Bachelor Pad. Did

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 1>the producers ever talk to you about I'm assuming no,

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>considering what you've what you've told me today, But did

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>they ever talk to you about being a bachelor.

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Of course, Oh of course that was that was a

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 2>dangling care Oh my god, what do you How do

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 2>you think they got me to I do some of

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 2>the things that I wanted to do.

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I see, I see, And.

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that that's enticed to a lot of other

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 2>other people too. Oh you know this, we'll offer the

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 2>bachelor as a carrot and then we'll see what he's

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>going to do for it, or we're gonna see how

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna react, or we're gonna see the ratings, you

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, which I would have blew the

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 2>ratings off the roof if I was a bachelor. Let's

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 2>just be honest, Just be honest. I'd be cheesy. I'd

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 2>have been super dramatic, you know what. I've been in

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>a super fun at that point in my life. But

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, ironically, I I they did. But I was

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>already with Vienna at that point, because like I said,

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>we started like me and a couple of the boys,

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>like I had gea come out. Gee, I had friends.

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 2>I had people from the show. I had so many

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 2>friends that were so close to me, and we did

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 2>appearances and we did fun shows. We just traveled and

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>we started doing like reunions, and then the Bachelor Nation

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.280
<v Speaker 2>they saw that and they wanted more of that because

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 2>they saw a group of people that weren't selected but

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 2>are still trying to find love. You know, well, it's

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 2>just a bunch of hookups anyways at that point of

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 2>everyone's life, you know, me, it was just a bunch

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 2>of reunion hookups and it was fun. But that is

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 2>where I eventually met Vienna. And you know, I met

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Vienna in New York, and you know, it was an

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 2>instant for me. You know, I really was drawn to

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 2>her because of her persona. Yeah, you know, she just

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 2>had this this strong confidence about her. But that night

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 2>she was broken and I definitely am a healer, fix

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 2>your type person, and I saw that she was hurting

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 2>and I just wanted to help her. And so we

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>had like a conversation for like five hours at night,

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then she invited me to come out

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 2>to LA the next weekend and we didn't spend another

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 2>day apart for a little bit until the show. Yeah,

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 2>and then the show is when everything just kind of

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>went crazy. You know that that that in itself was

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 2>a whole unique experience because I knew what to expect

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 2>this time, so I prepared myself.

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 1>You had experience. How did it go crazy?

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Number one, my producer told me verbatim, Jake will not

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 2>be on the show, and I said, I know that, Yeah,

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm bachelor pad and because that's that was Vienna's ex right,

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 2>And I was still like very very you know, close

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>to the date of time and everything. So I didn't

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 2>really think too much of it at first. I didn't care.

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't want the drama of it, you know,

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 2>And I don't I didn't like that. I knew what

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 2>they were going to do if they did bring him

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 2>on the show. Well, of course, day one, there comes

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Jake Pavelka, you know what I mean. And I've already

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.919
<v Speaker 2>heard things, right, They've already put things in my head

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 2>like he's angry to her, he's Maddie. They've shown me video,

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>They've made me hate Jake at this point, you know

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. And and and I think Vienna actually

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 2>had experienced some certain things. I don't know. I don't

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>to talk for her, but it was insinuated to me

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 2>that there that he was just a bad guy. But

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't. He wasn't. Again, This was all produced in

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 2>my head to create that drama the second I see him,

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, to build up that animosity for me. And so,

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, he comes on the show and I'm upset,

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm angry. I'm like, okay, of course, and and our

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 2>confrontation are are hostile, which they didn't even need to

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 2>be because I'm not a hostile guy, you know, And

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>so they placated that. But then I but then I

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>instantly came back to reality and I realized what was

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>going on. And so then I said, Okay, I need

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 2>to be friends with all these people, because these people

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>are good people and they're not gonna they're not gonna

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 2>gaslight me, manipulate me. They're here to They're here to

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 2>play a game and win some money and win some

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 2>challenges and have some fun and maybe find love doing

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 2>that too. And I ended up becoming really really close

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 2>friends with all of those people, especially Chia. And that's

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 2>a whole different conversation. But you know, everyone on that show,

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 2>from Michelle money Uh to all the guys I mean,

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Peter Stan, I mean, it's just crazy because I still

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 2>follow everyone from the Bachelor Pad and that was such

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 2>a close group regardless of the drama that happened on

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 2>that show. We were a close group. Bachelor Pad two

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 2>was a season to never forget. And I say that

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 2>because of the emotions of raw, real friendships that were

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 2>built on that show. And I say that because a

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of the friendships were also manipulated and misconstrued and

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.879
<v Speaker 2>trying to create drama within the actual show to make

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.760
<v Speaker 2>it a dramatic show, you know what I mean. Like everyone,

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>it's funny because everyone came to me and told me, Hey,

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>production is really trying to get us to vote for you, Casey,

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 2>and I laughed. I'm like, I knew that this was

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:13.760
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. They want to get Jake and viennap

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 2>by themselves. They want they want to get Jake back,

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 2>and that's going to create more of a storyline than

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>me being on the show for the entirety of the show.

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 2>And I saw the war they wanted me off see

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.240
<v Speaker 2>episode one, and I didn't let that happen. And thankfully,

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>because of the amazing people on that show that voted

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>for Jake and did not vote for me, you know,

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>kept me on that show. And I think that's the

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>real reason why I was able to stay on that show.

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>So the Bachelor Pad was an incredible experience with the

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 2>relationships that I built and the people that were on

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 2>there are very special people to me and they will.

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget that show. And yeah, that was real

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 2>because I was able to kind of be myself with

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 2>them and I didn't care about production because I felt

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.879
<v Speaker 2>like the Bachelor Pad cast, the people there, they had

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 2>my best interests, unlike the production.

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'd love to hear about life now. Uh, you

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>are happily married with two cutie pie kiddos. Yes, tell

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:18.879
<v Speaker 1>me about your family, life, your business, your nonprofit, all

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>all of the above.

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, absolutely so. I'm married to my wife, Amanda.

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 2>She is incredible. She tolerates all the things, you know

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. She puts up with my craziness and

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and my passion, you know, because I'm a passionate guy,

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 2>and she she you know, she loves my cheesiness to

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 2>an extent I can only I can only pour it

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>on so much. But you know, she's been amazing to

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 2>me and an amazing partner in my business, and the

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 2>things that I see from her every day as a

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 2>mom just make me fall in love with her more

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 2>and more every single day. The way that she is

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 2>with my son, the way that she's with my daughter,

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's very special, especially because my my son,

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 2>he's five year old and he has non verbal autism.

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 2>So my wife and I, we actually own a wellness

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.840
<v Speaker 2>facility UH in Clovis, California, where we do you know

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 2>one this treatments anything from you know them sell peptide therapy,

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, IV therapy, vitamin therapy, very holistic approach. You know,

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 2>we diagnostically test people with with DEXA scans and blood

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 2>work so we can understand the body. We want to

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 2>value your body as an entirety, right. We want to

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 2>see what is defficient and if you're lacking vitamins or

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 2>minerals or nutrients, and we want to replace that naturally, okay,

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 2>And we can do that with all kinds of different things,

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 2>variations of vitamins and nutrients, injections, ivs and different things

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 2>like that, regenerative therapy, stem cell things like that that

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 2>we want to optimize our health and body. And so

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 2>we took that same approach and we are taking that

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 2>same approach for my nonprofit for autism. It's called Echos

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 2>for Autism ECHOS for Autism is a facility that actually

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 2>tests and neurologically, bio biologically feedback, gets biofeedback on these

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 2>babies to understand what is going on with their body

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 2>and how we can help heal them and how we

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 2>can eliminate inflammation from the brain and body that has

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 2>been incurred by environmental factors and much other things that

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 2>I can get into on a whole different day, but

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 2>right now we are actually seeing in credible results with

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 2>our autistic babies, and it's unbelievable because you know, no

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 2>one is really treating it the way that we are

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.720
<v Speaker 2>are approaching it with testing and finding the biological approach

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:12.879
<v Speaker 2>to understanding how we can how we can alleviate these

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 2>symptoms in the brain, and we are seeing incredible results.

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 2>One of my specialist everyone that's actually volunteering for my

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>nonprofit that actually all have kids with autism, one of

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>my specialists actually had a nonverbal child and that's now

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 2>speaking at seven years old. So we are onto some

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 2>groundbreaking and revolutionary things and I'm just very excited for

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 2>that because ACOS for Autism, I think is going to

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 2>revolutionize healthcare.

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:39.720
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Could you share the websites. Please.

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So ACOS for Autism AKOS the lever the number

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 2>four Autism dot org. You can definitely donate on there

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 2>because it's all the all the proceeds go to the

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 2>treatments of our kids. I do not charge the families.

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Everything that I do, I do complimentary because I know

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 2>how hard it is on these families. So all of

0:42:57.920 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 2>this is covered by us. And all the families that

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm here get tested and treated for free. So pretty amazing.

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>There you can go to ACOS for Autism dot org.

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>We are looking for sponsors, donors, investors. We have so

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 2>much look forward to and to scale out. We are

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 2>so far ahead of the game. I will real quick say,

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Akos it means cure.

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, thank you for saying that. I didn't

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>know where that came from.

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 2>So so you're my age, you're what thirty nine to

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 2>forty ish right, Trista Smarlo.

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I love you.

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I love you too. So since we looks and that's

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>that's that's we're always forever claiming. Do you remember the

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 2>movie The Cure? It was with Jared Jared Renfro and

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 2>another boy, and it's about a boy that's dying from cancer. Okay,

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 2>and he's he's being made fun of, he's being bullied,

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 2>he's being picked on at school. And so the neighbor

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 2>sees him, I buy the fence in the backyard one day,

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 2>and he goes over to talk to him and he says, hey,

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 2>so what's going on? And he finds out that this

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 2>young boy is dying from cancer. So this his new

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 2>friend is now goes off and he starts finding all

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 2>these plants, these potions, these powders. He's searching in magazines.

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 2>He's trying to find mixed mustard and oils and things

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 2>to try and find a cure for this for his

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 2>new friend, so that he can he can live a

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>good life with his new friend. Well, they go through

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of obstacles and trials and tribulations throughout throughout

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 2>the years. Well the boy only had three months, but

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 2>he ends up living three years. He still dies, But

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 2>the moral of the story is that that boy gave

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 2>him that cure, and he gave him an unconditional love

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 2>and an unconditional friendship that gave him a better quality

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 2>of life. Now, I know that people mock at the

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 2>name cure, but a cure doesn't have to come from

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 2>a needle, it doesn't have to come from a poison,

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:40.439
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have to come from anything else. It could

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 2>come from unconditional love from a strong dad that wants

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 2>to help heal his son. And that is all that

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I am trying to do for our community of autistic babies.

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 2>And it can and it will be done. And so

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 2>that's why I named it Echoes for Autism.

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're going to bring it up to back to

0:44:55.640 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 1>some laughter and joy. There's joy that's not joy and

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing. Okay, you said you would sing me

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 1>a song.

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, oh man, I really put myself on

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>the spot there.

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you said, you said, you said, so you can

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.959
<v Speaker 1>choose any topic. Maybe Bachelor Pad because you had such

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 1>great time there and we are a bachelor related podcast.

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Why do we go there? Can you sing me a

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>song about Bachelor Pad?

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Wow, okay, yeah, this is going to be awkward,

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Or or even better, could you sing a song about

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>being an og like a theme song for the almost

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>famous Ogs?

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, let me let me think about that. Let's see.

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay, you're not on the spot at all.

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I know. I'm like, how do I need a melody?

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 2>I need like a beat or something, you know what

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean? I need like, oh god, I am not

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.399
<v Speaker 2>bad person. Yeah I know. I see I'm not beat box.

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know. See now we're put on the spot here.

0:45:58.680 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 2>This is what happens when you just got to go

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 2>win something, you know. Let's see here, all right, so

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 2>we'll just wing something, all right. So I don't even know.

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.720
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sitting here saying on the show was trist

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 2>to Sutter wishing I had a piece of toast and

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 2>garlic butter, because when I'm on the show, like a

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 2>oh gee, I don't know what to sing because my

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>name is Casey. I guess I didn't know it. I

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 2>don't even know I'm singing a song like I'm singing

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>to my daughter. I don't even know.

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:32.959
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I love it.

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 2>You got me all red like, because I got people

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:36.800
<v Speaker 2>in here staring at me too, right now. So you

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 2>got me really on the spot, right, I got you. Yeah.

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I got executive director of my nonprofits. She's helping me

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 2>run all at my studio, and she's over here dying

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 2>laughing at me right now, dude, like this is Yeah,

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 2>she's not even making an eye contact because I'm sweating,

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.280
<v Speaker 2>though I'm profusely sweating.

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry that we've made you sweat, but you

0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>are the best.

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 2>You know. I don't care. It's it is what it is.

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>And if I actually thought of the song, I probably

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 2>could have came up with a better melody. But it's, hey, don't.

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I don't care exactly. I feel like

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.839
<v Speaker 1>as I get older, you just get to the point

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 1>where you're like, I just don't care, like you know what,

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you can believe what you want to believe about me.

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to live my life for me, and I

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>love that you're doing that. Well.

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 2>It took this show to learn that right, and it

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:27.319
<v Speaker 2>took a lot, you know, because when and when that

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.319
<v Speaker 2>stuff did come out, you know, about my show and

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.879
<v Speaker 2>about the stuff that I had bandages and certain things

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that were alluded to things that weren't actual truth. You know,

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I got a lot of speculation. I got a lot

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:39.919
<v Speaker 2>of nasty messages, I got a lot of online hate,

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, I got a lot of speculation. I always

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 2>questioned myself, looking over my shoulder, is that person laughing

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 2>at me? Is that person laughing at me is that

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 2>person making fun of my song? You know, that was

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.439
<v Speaker 2>a hard part of my life to compartmentalize ultimately until

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I realized, I don't care. I don't care what they say,

0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what they think, because at the end

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:01.320
<v Speaker 2>of the day, I'm going to help people get healthy.

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna help people get well. I'm gonna help people

0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 2>with autism. I'm gonna help my child, I'm gonna help

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:08.359
<v Speaker 2>my my daughter, I'm gonna help my wife, I'm gonna

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 2>help myself, I'm gonna help my family. And if anyone

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 2>has anything to say about that authenticity, then I really

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 2>don't care.

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Love it. Thank you, Casey, Thank you. This has been

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.520
<v Speaker 1>so enlightening. I loved reconnecting with you. I'm so happy

0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 1>for you and your happiness. Thank you, Thank you for sharing.

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being on the Almost Famous Og podcast.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 2>No thanks for having me. I enjoyed it. And thank

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:31.799
<v Speaker 2>you for always being authentic as you. You are one

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:34.839
<v Speaker 2>of the few ogs that truly are always who you are,

0:48:34.880 --> 0:49:00.120
<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate you for that. Trista, thank you, Thank you,