1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,239 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian got in the truck and lo and behold 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: the gas gauges on him, and I said, wow, the 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: gas gauge must be broken, because nobody would really drop 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: off a vehicle for a running problem with no gas 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: in it, right, I mean, how dune can people be? 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: It's June, this. 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: The car Doctor. When I talked to the owner a 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: short time later, I said, by the way, I guess 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: the gas gauge is broken. He said, no, it works. Why, 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: I said, well, the gas gauge is on in that 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: says little fuel lights on. He goes, oh, yeah, it's 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: out of gas. You can stop put gas in it 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: for me, right, Yeah, I can do that. I can 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: wash it too if you want. It's just going to 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: cost you. 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 17 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one. 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: This is where car owners the world overturned to for 19 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: in The garage doors are. 22 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Open, but I am here to take your calls. At 23 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and now 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: he running yep, ryam listeners on an Amy and at 25 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: your service, another hour, car Doctor, and let's kick it off. 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Let's let's go to the phones right away. Let's get 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: going because we've got a lot of phone calls this hour. 28 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Let's go to Norman. Is that Norman in Queen's County, 29 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: New York? Norman. Welcome to the car. 30 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 4: Doctor, Sarah. Thanksful, lot Ron. Everyone's got a good I 31 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: got a perplexing problem that everyone should have. Okay, I've 32 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 4: been listening to you since nineteen ninety one. 33 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: Oh, you're making me coming off. 34 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 4: You helped me out with my BMW a short time 35 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 4: ago when you diagnosed its specifically at the fob wasn't 36 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 4: working and we got to fixed up. Now my cause 37 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: coming off. Lease Ron and to buy the car, and 38 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 4: you can buy it back at twenty seven thousand dollars 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: two thousand and two BMW X five text three two 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: twenty two, two, twenty twenty. 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Two, twenty two. 42 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: Guys, Now the question comes in the repay, Well you 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: come well, police, and you have to have the car fixed. 44 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: It is just crazy on prices for anything you want done. 45 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: And at what point do you tell yourself you know 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: something it was I'm seventy three years old. It was 47 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: a good experiment. My wife and I love the car. 48 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: Now let's just go back to a Toyota Wrap four 49 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: that we always like, and we can buy a brand 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: new rout four, or we can take our chances purchase 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 4: the car which has sixteen thousand miles on it. We 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 4: don't do a much traveling. And then you have to 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: put up with the repairs. But when you look at 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 4: the prices, but it cost its thousands of dollars or 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: something that is just like out of we can't afford that. 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: I mean put it that way, and if you buy 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: a maintenance contract on it, you might as well just 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: release the car or drop it and buy a regular car. 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: So you do you know, cars, cars have become a 60 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: lifestyle Norman, and I don't know where this occurred. I 61 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: think in the last twenty years. It was a slow process. 62 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: But as you, as you and everyone else is finding out, 63 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: it's you lease the car and they cover the cost 64 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: of repairs. They cover everything. Right, you had a great 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: three two or two or three year lease whatever the 66 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: term was, and it was a great. Yeah it was 67 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: that was your lifestyle. And now it's time you know, well, Okay, 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: we've got to get another car, and is it going 69 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: to be a BMW again? Needless to say, I would 70 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: venture to guess that to release that BMW is a 71 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: very different deal now than it was three years ago? 72 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: Or are the numbers the same? 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 5: Much more? Much more? 74 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: Because it's surprised and the problem not the problem is 75 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: that nothing's going wrong with the car, right, So as 76 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: you always say, always maintenance, maintenance, maintenance, any new car, 77 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 4: any car. After three years, you got to think about brakes, 78 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: You got to think about fluid changes, you got to 79 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 4: think about transmission. Right, You're thinking about things happen to 80 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: be taken care of. Right, I now it's closing thousands 81 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: of dollars to do that. 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: I think you are on the right beam, my friend. 83 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: I think the idea that you know what you had, 84 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: the social experiment, you had, the lifestyle. It's a nice car. Look, 85 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with the Toyota, nothing wrong with a RAF four. Right, 86 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: it's it's not a terrible hour. 87 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: Just that way into the next thing. Because you always 88 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: help me out with my two thousand and five RAV four. 89 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: Do I go for the hybrid? Like I always heard 90 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: you talk about the Preus being the best hybrid they have, 91 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: But if we want the raw four, do we stick 92 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: with a RAV four hybrid or the regular RAV four 93 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: for a car that's going to last? 94 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: Okay? 95 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: No other words, which one has the best repair history? 96 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: And your your say? 97 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: So I think they both have a good track record, Norman. 98 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: I think both vehicles have the potential to go the distance. 99 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: I think it's it's what what are you more comfortable 100 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: and what do you enjoy driving? And I think you've 101 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: got to go drive both vehicles. Look, you're coming out 102 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: of a rocket ship, all right, and you're not exactly 103 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: going to a biplane, but you're you know, you're going 104 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: to a smaller rocket ship. So you know, how much 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: more technology do you want? Or can you give up? 106 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's a whole again. We're back to the 107 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: lifestyle comment. All right, this is going this is gonna 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: be a very different experience for you in the sense 109 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: of although you said you had a Toyota before, so 110 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be totally different. But 111 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, listen, you want to enjoy driving, right, You're 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: you're seventy two. You said seventy two, seventy. 113 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: Three on seventy three, so it's going to be my 114 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: last I. 115 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Know it's your last car. I know everybody gets like 116 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: that I'm creeping up on you. And I don't think 117 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm ever going to say this is my last car. 118 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, the day before I go, I'm going to 119 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: be out looking at cars. But that's just me. I 120 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: think you've got to find something you like and listen. 121 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't drive just to rav for you know, maybe 122 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: you want to go look at Alexis. Maybe you want 123 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: to look at something a little high line there and 124 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, the same Toyota quality, the same Toyota mentality, 125 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: and see where that gets you. Part of the problem 126 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: is right now a lot of people are coming out 127 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: of what I will call expensive car leases BMW Audie 128 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: Mercedes and that car that they leased three years ago 129 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: and they had to put, oh, I'm going to guess, 130 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: three thousand dollars down and they've got a lease payment 131 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: of five point fifty six hundred a month. They're finding 132 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, it's it's it's it's double 133 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: down and nine hundred almost one thousand dollars a month 134 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: depending upon the model. Yeah, you get you know it, 135 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: you know it, and it's crazy. It's it's and what 136 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: are you getting? And you're going to see that change 137 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: as the economy changes, and it will. It's just it's 138 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: just a matter of time. There has to be an 139 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: evolution here. You know, if if dollars are a concern, 140 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: all right, and I'm not saying that we want to 141 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: throw money around, I don't care, you know, I don't 142 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: care how much money you have. You just don't throw 143 00:06:58,839 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: money around. 144 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: You got to show it if you want, you want 145 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: to use common sense? Right, cars for transportation. You know, 146 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: my wife and I had just you know, just what 147 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: are we doing? Very few miles, but good experiment, you know, 148 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: good experiment having it. It felt good, but now it 149 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: feels stupid buying a coffee that much funny. Uh, It's 150 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: like you'd like to spend your money other things in life? 151 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, now do you do you go out and 152 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: lease the raft four? Which is the second part of 153 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: the question that we haven't talked about. 154 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: I buy it, I buy it, buy it? 155 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: Do you buy it? 156 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: Did? 157 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Did you look at the least numbers? 158 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, at least he went for like three hundred and 159 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: fifty dollars a month. But you know something, when you 160 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: rent something wrong. You're you're when you lease something, you're 161 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: renting you don't own, right. And I've always liked owning 162 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: something to say it's mine, right, And I always followed 163 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: your advice. 164 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 5: You just do. 165 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: I change the oil every three thousand miles transmission fluid. 166 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 4: It was once a year. I was going overboard on this, 167 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: the call ass and I'd rather just say it's mine. 168 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: I'm taking good care of it. But at least I'm 169 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: saying it's not rented. And the least I fell into 170 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: because you get googled into saying, hey, look I can 171 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: afford at least right now because the monthly payments are there. 172 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: But you don't own the car. 173 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 5: Did you? 174 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: Did you drive a rap for yet? 175 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well you saw own one? 176 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 6: No? 177 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: No, have you driven? Have you driven a new one? No? 178 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 6: No? 179 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: I just went online and went looking at it and 180 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: I see there. My wife likes it. Also, All right, 181 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: we have to go down and try. It's something that 182 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: we have to get into, but we use you as 183 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 4: our guru and who to go on new advice. 184 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. 185 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: All up ron, all up roun and find out what's happening, 186 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: because you you gave us you gave us very When 187 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: I was listening to you you first came on the radio, 188 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: and I was trying to follow along with you what 189 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 4: you're doing. And I'm not mechanically happy to fix the car, 190 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: but I understand when you're talking about. And I wish 191 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: I could go back to my nineteen seventy a Crown Victoria. 192 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: That was the best car I ever had in my life. 193 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 4: But and that was a corroborated car. 194 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was trained. I was trained as 195 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: a mechanic, you know, And I know what you're saying. 196 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: People say this to me. They like my old school approach, 197 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: but I was trained by old school. You know, You've 198 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: got to remember my dad was an airline mechanic. My 199 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: dad was superintendent maintenance for American airlines during the Second 200 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: World War, worked on a lot of military aircraft. He 201 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: always taught me, you know, this is the procedure. You 202 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: got to follow the procedure. There's steps one through six. 203 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: You don't skip the step four. And Billy, my first 204 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: boss in the gas station that I still to this 205 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: day considered one of the smartest people I ever met. 206 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: He had a genius mentality. You know, Proper maintenance done properly. 207 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: I've said that about Billy, but he just taught me 208 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: procedure and process. My dad was gone at that point, 209 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: but old school mechanics, you know what, it's still nuts 210 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: and bolts. It still takes fluid, takes basics in order 211 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: to operate properly. And that's what I think. I think 212 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: even with the technology today, so you know, and it's 213 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: a lifestyle, right, So you've got to look at that Toyota, 214 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: that RAB four real quick and then I'll let you 215 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: go that that RAV four. You know, the cost to 216 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: operate that RAB four is going to be substantially less 217 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: than BMW anything. And you know, you've got to look 218 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: at that. And chances are that that RAB four will 219 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: last you easily ten years, if not longer, with proper care. 220 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: And that's a good spot to be in. So that's 221 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: good funny. 222 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: I believe what you always say. Maintenance all the way, yep, 223 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: and take good care of it and it'll go forever. 224 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: And I really appreciate the phone call. 225 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, Norman. You have a good rest of 226 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: the day. My best to your wife listening to you 227 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: all the time. Thank you, sir. You'd be well, you know, 228 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: it's it's part of the process to maintain a car. 229 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: You've got to do it right. Maintenance is the key, 230 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: and if you don't maintain it, you know, And it's 231 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: a funny thing. And I do this at the shop 232 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm wrong for doing it, but somebody will 233 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: come in with their new car and as we start 234 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: to work on it, and the relationship evolves, and you know, 235 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: we start to go through things, and you know, they'll 236 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: start to come in the fifteen thousand mile service, the 237 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: thirty thousand mile service, and we start to show them 238 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: pieces and parts that we've replaced and changed. And I said, 239 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: you got to remember, buying a new car has now 240 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: earned you the privilege of throwing it away, one piece 241 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: at a time. But it got you there, It kept 242 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: you safe, it kept you dry, it brought you to work. 243 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: It did what it was supposed to do. And that's 244 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: the purpose of an automobile. Cars are a lifestyle. How 245 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: much lifestyle can you afford? Ah, that's the secret, And 246 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: that's what you have to realize as you approach. It 247 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: can't be emotional when you're looking at a car. It's 248 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: got to be factual and affordable. And that's the bottom line, 249 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: I'm ronning Ay in the Car Doctor. I'll be back 250 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away. 251 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: For the best in car advice, give Ron a call 252 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: eight by five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 253 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron and we're back listeners running any 254 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: of the card Doctor here at your service. Let's let's 255 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: wander over and talk to Don and Virginia. Don. Welcome 256 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir, how can I help Hi? 257 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 5: Ron? Thanks? You and I talked early in November two 258 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 5: thousand and sixty one. Fifty had gotten a whole plethora 259 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 5: of codes thrown. I had thrown some parts at it. 260 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 5: They all sort of revolved around the Eger system and 261 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 5: that type of thing. I did end up replacing the ECM, 262 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: and all of those codes went away for a while. 263 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 5: And then right before we were going on vacation with 264 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 5: a couple other couples, I started getting a storm of 265 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 5: just dispairit codes and so I threw my hands up 266 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 5: and I told my wife, I said, I'm just going 267 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 5: to take it to the dealer, right And she said, 268 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: oh my god, we're not going to be able to eat. 269 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 5: I said, well, we'll see. So I took it to 270 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 5: the dealer where I bought it. I took it on 271 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 5: a Sunday night because I knew they weren't going to 272 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 5: be there, and I dropped it off, left the fold 273 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 5: the what I'd done and all the codes, along with 274 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: screenshots from the scan tool, and they opened it seven 275 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 5: thirty on Monday morning. They called me about nine thirty 276 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: and they said, we know what the problem is. And 277 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 5: I said really, He said, yeah. We put a mechanic 278 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 5: on there. He's been here thirty years. He's worked on 279 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 5: wats of E one fifty chateaus and everything else. You 280 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 5: got a wiring harness problem. And apparently the wiring harness 281 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 5: that wrapped itself around the orifice tube that runs from 282 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 5: the EGR valve down to exauce and it had melted inside, 283 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 5: and so you know, he said, it's not going to 284 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 5: be cheap. He said, it's a lot of time an hour. 285 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 5: So it was about an eight hundred and fifty dollars repair. 286 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 5: But they went in, traced it out, repaired it. Because 287 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 5: you can't find the wiring harness, aren't it Obviously for 288 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 5: that not a problem since the one on a two 289 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 5: thousand miles vacation, no problem in the mountains, no codes, 290 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 5: it's doing fine. So I guess the bulk of that 291 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: is that the lesson learned is that sometimes when you 292 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 5: weigh over your head, you got to take it somewhere 293 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 5: where there's experience and they've worked on these things for 294 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 5: a long time. 295 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: Well there's that, and there's also you know, you can't 296 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: beat yourself up right. You don't know, all right. You 297 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: don't know if where the wiring harness rubbed through, if 298 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: it short circuited, because you know, if it's rubbing against 299 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: the metal tube it's ground, right. You don't know what 300 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: part of the horns. You don't know if you damage 301 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: the PCM either, all right, you know, I go back 302 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: to the day. I'll date myself here. Eighty eight Chevrolet 303 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: J body cars. I think it was with the two 304 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: point eight leter, the flat aluminum top intake manifold set up. 305 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: They would actually the ignition coils were mounted on top 306 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: of the ignition module, so the coil would spike, it 307 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: would overload the module. The module was tied by wiring 308 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: back to the PCM, so the coil would take out 309 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: the module would take out the PCM. You'd end up 310 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: putting three parts in the car to fix it. You know, 311 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: everything is interconnected. Heck, we had a couple of GMS 312 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: back in the day. We could I could tell you 313 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: this story with Fords too. Gms are just on my 314 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: mind today for some reason that you know, you would 315 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: have bad alternators, and a bad GM alternator on certain 316 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: models would actually overload the system and damage any of 317 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: the processors on the vehicle, so you would put multiple parts. 318 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: It looked like you were guessing, but in fact you 319 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: were just running down the problem. So you know, would 320 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: it could have? Should have? Do you still have the 321 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: old PCM? 322 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 5: I do? 323 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so guess what now you got to back up right, 324 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know it's and I would hang on 325 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: to that because you know, if you're planning on keeping this, 326 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: this was a camper or something, right this or this. 327 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: Was a well no, it it was so it was 328 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 5: factory with captain chairs that didn't have any modifications like 329 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 5: a rebuilder or something like that, right, right, so we 330 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 5: at it. 331 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: It's a little fancy. It's not just a regular van, 332 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: is my right? Right? Yeah, so you know what, not 333 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: a work van. Now you got to spare PCM. I 334 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be ashamed of exactly. I wouldn't be ashamed of 335 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: that at all. 336 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 5: One other quick question. Sure, I've got to change the 337 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 5: plugs on this. It's the plugs have about one hundred 338 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 5: and twenty thousand on it. And as part of all 339 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: this stuff, before I went in and changed the number 340 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 5: five because that was showing misfires, the plug was not 341 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 5: in great shape. So my question is this, And looking 342 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 5: through Mitchell's and other places, the response is you probably 343 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 5: want to take the fuel rail loose from the brackets 344 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: in order to be able to get the tools down 345 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 5: in to do the to get the plugs out, because 346 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 5: the fuel rails sit right on top of the seal 347 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 5: the cool on plugs. Is there anything I should be 348 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: afraid of? Is this? 349 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 6: Is this? 350 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: Is this a four to six or a five four? 351 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember five four five four to four? 352 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 5: No, two valve for a cylinder, So I don't have 353 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,239 Speaker 5: to worry about the plugs being stuck. 354 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: Right, No, I think you're going to find that. I 355 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: think you're gonna find you're going to loosen the rail 356 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: and just kind of ease it out of the way. Uh, 357 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, do you have do you have a heated 358 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: garage so it's warm? 359 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 5: I do? 360 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: Okay, So you know, I would park it in there overnight, 361 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: get it good and warm, and just take your time. 362 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 5: I would. 363 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: I would drop a little P B blaster down the 364 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: hall and you know, just on the just on the 365 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: chance that the plugs are stuck, and just kind of 366 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: work their way carefully. And as long as you're doing 367 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: plugs at this age in mileage, you probably ought to 368 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: consider the coil. Yeah, change the coils, you know, I would. 369 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: And you know, if we're going to do this, let's 370 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: do it once. Let's get motocraft stuff, you know, let's 371 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: let's let's just let's just be done with it. You know, 372 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: we don't want to go through this twice. And obviously, 373 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: just the issue is you have to. 374 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 5: You know, you change the four front ones from the 375 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 5: front of the car, and then you have to take 376 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 5: the doghouse off right and change the four rearuins on 377 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 5: your back right reaching out through. 378 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, yeah, so listen, it might be easier 379 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: depending upon how the chairs are ruck. Didn't put it 380 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: in there. It might be easier to take the chairs out. 381 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 5: That's a good idea, because I've had those out before 382 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 5: to do some work on them. 383 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: So all right, okay, so you know that might help 384 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: you too. All right, good luck to you. 385 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 5: Listen. 386 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad it worked out for you, all right, 387 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: and the kid. I appreciate you getting back to us, 388 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: all right, sir. Thanks Ron, You're very welcome. 389 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: To be well. 390 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 1: I'm running Indy in the card Doctor. We're back right 391 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away. Contrasts welcome back listeners Running 392 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: Ani in the car Doctor. Let's let's go on over. 393 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: Let's go talk to Bill in Sussex County, New Jersey. 394 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 5: Bill. 395 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, Sir, how can. 396 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 5: I help hi? 397 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 6: Ron, Thanks for taking the call time listener from w TBq. 398 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 399 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 6: Trying to help out my sister who was in Chicago. 400 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 6: She sent me a picture of a tire from her 401 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 6: Audi that has some curve rash on it, and basically 402 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 6: there's a chunk or gouge that's been taken out of 403 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 6: the sidewall. It's if I had to guess, it would 404 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 6: probably be about an inch and a half long and 405 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 6: maybe a quarter of an inch deep. So I told 406 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 6: her to take it to the local tire shop to 407 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 6: get an evaluation. They looked at it and their opinion 408 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 6: was that the tire did exactly what it was supposed 409 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 6: to do, that there's no steel belt showing, and that 410 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 6: for the time being, it was okay to leave it 411 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 6: as it is. I kind of err on the side 412 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 6: of caution, and I think I know what the answer is, 413 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 6: but I wanted to get your thoughts on it as well. 414 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: So good and it's a good question, and I'm glad 415 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: you called. 416 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 5: Then. 417 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, that side wall of the tire, this being 418 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: an audi this is probably what we call a low 419 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: profile tire, you know, Yeah, it has a short height 420 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: to the ground, so to speak. Well, you know, the 421 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: tire shop is right. The side casing of the tire 422 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: did exactly its job. It protected the tire in the 423 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: sense of something going through the steel belt, which is 424 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: now even though it's not hanging out, it's it's much 425 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: more exposed than it normally would be. You know, this 426 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: is the best example I can give everybody to think about. 427 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: Is you ever skin your elbow and you don't bleed, 428 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: but you get that you take away the top layer 429 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: of skin and you get that tender portion of your 430 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: skin underneath, and now it's a little you know, and 431 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: it hurts a little bit. When you're rest on your 432 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: elbow and then all of a sudden you start bleeding 433 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: because you kind of poked through. You know, she's taken 434 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: away that outer layer. So there's there's if something were 435 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: to and that's a pretty good gash, right that size 436 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: that you that you had mentioned, you know, if something 437 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: were to come up in the road, Now, where's the 438 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: side casing that's going to deflect? And you know Bill 439 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: that I always say, the road is a very unforgiving place, 440 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, and especially in an Audi, especially a low 441 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: profile tire. You know, I know it's going to be 442 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: a two hundred dollars tire or two hundred and fifty 443 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: dollars tire, But what's her life worth? What's the car worth? 444 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: What's not getting stuck on the side of the road 445 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: or an accident worth? And I think i'd have to 446 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: vote with you because I know what you're thinking. I'd 447 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: put a tire on the car. I wouldn't hesitate, especially. 448 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 6: If you're going to be going on a long trip. 449 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah, absolutely listen and yes, but even if 450 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: she was going to just you know, I don't care 451 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: if she's a three mile a day commuter. You know, 452 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: everybody says, well, I only go three miles a day. 453 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: Just make the brakes work good enough. You know, a 454 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: little kid rolls out on a bicycle right in front 455 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: of you, two blocks from your house. There's no saying 456 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: where that accident's going to happen. And I think it's 457 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: in her best interest. You know that tire, Yes, if 458 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: that tire was just used, you know, does she make 459 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: that tire the spare? But then now she's got an 460 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: unreliable spare in the car, and it probably wouldn't fit 461 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: because she probably has a space saver or some other 462 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: depending upon the year, AUDI some other low profile so 463 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: to speak, or low use tire. You know, there's so 464 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: many ways they create spares today. I think you go 465 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: out and buy a spare, and if it tore the 466 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: chunk out, depending upon how many miles are on it, 467 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: I'd probably shoot the alignment too. 468 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 6: I was thinking of that too. Yeah, And I did 469 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 6: suggest to her that she should probably buy two tires 470 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 6: since that's an all wheel drive vehicle. 471 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: Right. Well, and now now the question comes up, right, 472 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: and this is I know where this is going to go, 473 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: because now the question comes up, how much tread has 474 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: left on the other tires. 475 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 6: Yes, So. 476 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: You know, the industry says certain cars subarrus are susceptible 477 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: to it, certain models of Jeep are susceptible to it. 478 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: You know, Audi's seem to be a little less fussy. 479 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: But I don't want to temp tempt the devil. You know, 480 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: if I'm looking at tread depth and if the current 481 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: tread depth on the car is you know, less than 482 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: five thirty seconds, which is more than fifty percent worn, 483 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: And she's going to put two fresh tires up front 484 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: if she's gonna do some serious driving. You know, how 485 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: old are the tires are they? You know, four or 486 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: five years old. You know, those tires are going to 487 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: be date coated in four or five years. They'll be 488 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: out of the realm in another two years where you're 489 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: not supposed to be writing on them. So again, what's 490 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: the value of her safety at high speed, all kinds 491 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: of weather, Nothing handles like a fresh set of tires, 492 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: And I think it's just kind of goes with the 493 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: territory of what she's driving. 494 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 6: All right, that's great advice. I appreciate it. 495 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: You know, I can't say it any other way. The 496 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: biggest concern I have is, you know, her. I'll tell 497 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: you the story this way. We had a jeep in 498 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: the shop just recently and the new customer and where 499 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: he was going, they'd been doing all his service work 500 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: and all the lug nuts were swollen. Now jeeps have 501 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: a problem that the lug nut is capped, so there's 502 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: a there's a hard steel body underneath this tiny aluminum cap. 503 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: And if you constantly air gun them on and off, 504 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: impact hammer them on and off, event those lug nuts 505 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: will start to splinter and shred, and then moisture gets in. 506 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: And now the moisture turns into rust, and the rust 507 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: and there's a bulge, and now you can't fit the 508 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: nineteen millimeters socking on it. You have to have a 509 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: nineteen and a half or some other odd ball size 510 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: in order to get the lugnuts off. So you know, 511 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: Rich brought it in. We got all the lugnuts off, 512 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: but in looking at the wheels, the wheels on this jeep, 513 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: you could see that they were getting beat up. And 514 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: when we talked about it, it's partially it's the last shot. 515 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: They were kind of animals, for lack of a way 516 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: to say it, but it was kind of interesting to 517 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: see just how these wheels themselves had picked up debris, 518 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of junk on the road, and 519 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, it catches your eye and you have to 520 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: realize you may not hear it, see it, or feel it, 521 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: but to have an exposed wound in that tire. I 522 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: looked at Rich's wheels on his jeep and we did 523 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: get the lugnuts off. By the way. I took a 524 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: little bit of persuasion. Some day, I'll tell you guys 525 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: this story about how we had to get out the 526 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: three quarter inch breaker bar that's two feet long and 527 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: literally stand on it to break some of the lugnuts loose. 528 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: They were so overtight. You know, it's it's what's what's 529 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: the safety. I've never met anybody standing on the side 530 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: of the road with a flat that they knew was marginal. Going. Boy, 531 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm so glad I saved money that I could get 532 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: stuck here, and you know, wait for the tow truck. 533 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: It just doesn't work like that. So by all means, 534 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: get her, get her, get her a tire, two tires, 535 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: four tires, you know what. Take it, take it as 536 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: a warning sign and do an alignment, and then you 537 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: drive in peace and quiet and and the knowledge of safety. 538 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 6: Right, and I'm happy that tire buying is easier than 539 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 6: picking out oil or getting a forty light bulb in 540 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 6: the local hardware store. 541 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely absolutely Bill. 542 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 6: So all right, sir, you'd be weare happy New year, 543 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 6: Happy and healthy new year to everyone. 544 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, Bill, and thanks for being part of the 545 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: car Doctor family. You'd be well. You You're very welcome. 546 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm Ronning Andy and the car Doctor. We'll be back 547 00:25:51,880 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away, welcome back. Listeners running 548 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: ending in the Car Doctor. Let's get back to the phones. 549 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: Let's go over to Jerry out there. And I think 550 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: it's is it Las Vegas, Jerry? Or what part of 551 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: the vat are you from? 552 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: No, I'm retired in Las Vegas. I'm from the East 553 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: Coast directionally born in New York. But yeah, I'm retired. 554 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: Gotcha. Good for you? So what's going on? How can 555 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: I help? 556 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: Well, A couple of quick things. Number one, I'm sixty five, 557 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: graduated high school in seventy six, and I've always worked 558 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: on my own car, basic stuff, changing on and everything, 559 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: and I've always kept vehicles ten plus years. Well, in 560 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, I basically went to the RAM dealer 561 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: and built my dream truck because this gentry Eco diesel 562 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: had great reviews and looked good, and I wanted a 563 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: diesel for the field economy and towing. My RV received 564 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: the truck in March twenty twenty two. All was good 565 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: at first, and then all of a sudden, when diesel 566 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: was a buck fifty more than gas, I took my 567 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: old Nissan pickup truck. It went cross country came back 568 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: a month later. So the diesel sat for months, all 569 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: of a sudden, bang bang bang, engine codes, engine codes wrong, wrong, 570 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: long dealer for weeks at a time because they're short 571 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: diesel technicians. EGR went out turbo problems, an absolute nightmare, 572 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: and especially sitting for months and months and months. I've 573 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: got the bills in front of me. Obviously I didn't 574 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: pay them because it's under warranty. But it's over eleven 575 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: thousand dollars pairs. 576 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. What that tells me is not only do they 577 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: not have any diesel texts, the texts that are working 578 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: on it are clueless. But you know, I guess it's 579 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: easy to criticize from my seat here. It's in the 580 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: safety of the studio. But I got to tell you 581 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: it's you know, you hang one part two parts as 582 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: an educated guests. After that, it's time to call in 583 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: the zone rep and start talking to somebody and saying, hey, 584 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: what's going on? Where we're going with this? That was 585 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: probably I'm going to guess Jerry at seventy or eighty 586 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. 587 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: Vehicle sixty five? Yeah, okay, all right, a lot of money, yeah, 588 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: a lot, a lot of money. And I paid cash 589 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: for it because I'm retired and I've saved my money. 590 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 5: So I was. 591 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: I was going on a trip to meet an old 592 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: Marine Corps buddy I hadn't seen in years, and all 593 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: of a sudden, the whole emission system went crap again. 594 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: So I wrote, I wrote a personal letter to to 595 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 2: fight Fiat Chrysler. No response. So I went and got 596 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: one of these Lemon law lawyers online and they said, oh, 597 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: you got a great case, you got a great case, 598 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: you got a great case. Well, let me tell you 599 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: the Lemon law lawyer guys, especially some of these guys 600 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 2: online are a total rip off themselves. And I can 601 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: get into that if you want. But long story short, 602 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: every time I brought it back with something wrong. So 603 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving weekend, I just I took the plunge and I 604 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: just traded it in and I took a beating and 605 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: I got a Toyota. So I got a twenty twenty 606 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: three Toyota, right and and and it was just and 607 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: when the ram ran nice, it ran fantastic. But I 608 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: don't know if you've had experience with these eco diesels, 609 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: but I've heard other guys who've had these disaster stories 610 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 2: with the turbos and the emissions and everything. 611 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a fan of diesel in general in 612 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: that application for a lot of reasons. Number one, Chrysler's involved, 613 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: and you know, the older ones when it was the 614 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: comings back in, you know, the older the what was it, 615 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: the three's or the ninety eight's going way back, that 616 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: seemed to be a better diesel. The newer one, the 617 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: more electronics they hang on it, it seems like the 618 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: more difficult it is to properly maintain it and get 619 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: some kind of decent power out of it. And there's 620 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: a lot of limitations. But that be said, you know, 621 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: we still work on them, we still see them. They're 622 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: just not my favorite in the whole world. I still 623 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: think what happened with you is and you know, let 624 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: me point out the next time if you decide to 625 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: take the plunge again. I don't think you will, but 626 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: just in case, you know the question I always ask 627 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: when I'm buying something weird, I want to know who's 628 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: going to work on it? Hey, do you have a 629 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: tech trained in this? And surprisingly, I'm surprised the dealership 630 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: was able to sell it to you and not have 631 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: a certified tech. You know, the way General Motors works, 632 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: for example, is they've got to have a certified Corvette 633 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: tech on hand before they can sell a Corvette. If 634 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: they don't have a guy that can fix it, they 635 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: can't sell it. And I believe the other car companies 636 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: do the same thing. So I'm not sure where the 637 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: bump in the road became in that you couldn't get 638 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: this solved, And I guess it's just a reflection on 639 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: the dealer really, because if they wanted to fix it, 640 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: they could. You know, there is a culture when you 641 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: buy a vehicle, Jerry, and I think you know that 642 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: now in terms of you know, you just got an 643 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: example of how Chrysler or how Ram, Dodge, Fiat whoever 644 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: they are you know, handles customer service and handles problems 645 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: like that, you'll be happy with the Toyota. I can 646 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 1: tell you that, absolutely, right. And it's a different culture, right, 647 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: it was very different, the different buying experience totally. 648 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you I wanted the twenty 649 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: twenty three because I'm tired because they this year they're 650 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: going to turbos and everything. I'm sick at turbos. I'm 651 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: sick of too much junk on there. I wanted to 652 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: naspa it naturally aspirated, you know, basic stuff that I 653 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: could work on. 654 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep, yep. 655 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, And let me can I make a quick 656 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: comment about these Lemon lawyer guys for sures on the 657 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: ear if they ever choose to go to one. In 658 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: the fine print, you know, you think you think you 659 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: sign on with a lawyer because the lawyer is gonna 660 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: look after you, look after you, He's going to be 661 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: on your side. Well, in the fine print of what 662 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: I signed, it said, if you receive an offer from 663 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: Fiat Chrysler and you do not accept it, you have 664 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: to pay the lawyer fees. Well, I'm thinking, fine, okay, 665 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: you know, get it to get an offer. Well, I 666 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: think these guys work with them. Chrysler came back with 667 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: this low ball offer and I went to the lawyer Mark, I'm. 668 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 6: Not taking this. 669 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: Let's go to court. He goes, well, we're not sure, 670 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and they started dancing around. 671 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: Basically, all of. 672 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: A sudden, it became your your fault, and what did 673 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: you do wrong? Yep, I get it, Jerry, I really do. Hey, Jerry, 674 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: sit tight, stay on the line, let me pull over, 675 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: take a pause for the cause, and we'll come back 676 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: to you. Don't go away. I'm running Ny and the 677 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: car doctor. We'll be back right after this. Welcome back 678 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: listeners were kind of winding down the hour here, Jerry 679 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: from Las Vegas. You're still there, Yes, sir, so I'm sorry, Jerry, 680 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean to cut you off. Tell us some you know, 681 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: I'll give you a little bit of on air therapy here. 682 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: So the Lemon law lawyers aren't exactly why they're cracked 683 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: up to be a fair statement exactly. 684 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: And it's state by state. You got to look at 685 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: your state. Some states are stronger than others. Nevada's in between. 686 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: But you really got to read the five print with 687 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: these guys because I think they'll put the screws to 688 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: you if they get the chance, right. 689 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: Right, right, right, So well, Jerry, listen, I appreciate you 690 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: calling in my spies. Tell me that you are is it? 691 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: Is it a how do you say it when you're 692 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: no longer in the Marine Corps active duty? Are you 693 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: a retired marine? You're on an ex marine? There's no 694 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: such thing as an ex marine. 695 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: Right well, I did thirty years, so I'm a retired marine. 696 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: It lets me sit on my buttet. Can I do 697 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: a quick shout out because my local garage guys exactly 698 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: like you. It's Dad's garage or North Rango in Las Vegas, 699 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: sures the same way you do. 700 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Jerry, It's been a pleasure, sir, and thank you 701 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: for your service. 702 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: No thanks, love the show. You take care, you. 703 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: Take good care. I'm ron an any and the car doctor, 704 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: you know, and poor Jerry right he's he he ended up, 705 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, going in and I wish I had found 706 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: him sooner in that, you know, I could have I 707 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: could have helped him, you know, maybe we could have 708 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: diagnosed it together. Part of the problem is, all right, 709 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, you go into a dealership under warranty. Warranty 710 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's getting fixed. It just means that it's 711 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: going to be looked at for free, all right. And 712 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: I still stand on the premise and my my, my 713 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: saying that I've set over the years that a repair 714 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: shop is only as good as the people in it. 715 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: The sign on the door doesn't mean anything. And you know, 716 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: when you're buying, oh, I don't know. When you're you're 717 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: buying a four cylinder Toyota camera, it's a pretty safe 718 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: bet they've got a guy that can work on that. 719 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: But if you're buying an Eco diesel from your Ram dealership, 720 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: you're buying a Corvette from your Chevrolet dealership, or you know, 721 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: back in the day, you're buying something, do you have 722 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: a guy that can fix this? Is he any good? 723 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: How old is he? Is he going to retire in 724 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: the next two weeks? You know, these are all great questions, 725 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: all things you want to know, because it's all gonna 726 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: come down to sooner or later, that vehicle is gonna 727 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: have to get serviced and you're gonna need that person 728 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: in order to properly, you know, enjoy and get a 729 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: life cycle out of it. If the dealer is your guy. 730 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: If the dealer's going to be the one to work 731 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: on it. And you know, unfortunately Jerry had a bad 732 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: round of luck. But he'll like that Toyota. And I 733 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: get what he's saying. He's talking about his new Toyota. 734 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: He wanted a twenty three because in twenty four Toyota 735 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: also is going to all turbo chargers, or a lot 736 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: of turbo chargers. And you know, I questioned that as well. 737 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: I'm not a big turbot charger fan. I think it's 738 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: it's some extra work. You don't necessarily need it all 739 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: the time. But we'll see. You know what, Toko charger 740 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: technology has come a long way and we'll have to 741 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: learn from embrace it. Hey, that's about it for now, 742 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: till the next time, I'm ronning Ady and the card 743 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: Doctor reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 744 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 4: Let's see it.