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Speaker 1: killer pick. And he made no mistakes like that, and

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Speaker 1: he checked the boxes for the Jets, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's also a team and a fan base that is

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Speaker 1: dying for hope at this position. And they got two

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Speaker 1: good quarterback performances, which is very rare in New York

429
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Speaker 1: and so the Twitter thing probably is part of the pack,

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Speaker 1: but that's Twitter. It was an incredibly encouraging performance from

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald. He looked completely at ease. He yes, things

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Speaker 1: got quiet in the second half, and you and you

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Speaker 1: can that's worth noting. But to me, what I saw

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Speaker 1: in that touchdown drive in particular, UH, is why he

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Speaker 1: took more first team reps today in practice and why

436
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Speaker 1: it seems like he's a favorite for the job now

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Speaker 1: because he does not look again the youngest quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the league right now. He did not look like a

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Speaker 1: guy that was overwhelmed by the moment that drive in

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Speaker 1: the two minute drill. Uh, he was excellent. H. It

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Speaker 1: should have been eight straight completions for a touchdown. Charles

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Speaker 1: Johnson dropped one that should have been a touchdown. Then

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Speaker 1: he threw another touchdown that got wiped out by an

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Speaker 1: O p I and undaunted on third and long. He

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Speaker 1: then bought time and hit Johnson again for the touchdown,

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Speaker 1: so he really would have three touchdowns. Uh. In terms

447
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Speaker 1: of his play, I thought it was a really encouraging

448
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: and I'm that's why the the I think the people,

449
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Speaker 1: especially Jets fans on Twitter, so excited because that's exactly

450
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Speaker 1: what you're hoping to see. He checked. I think the

451
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: plan has all been all along for him to start,

452
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Speaker 1: just based on the their sources that are talking to

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Speaker 1: report in the way that they've talked about Donald. I

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Speaker 1: didn't take a lot away from the game between him

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Speaker 1: and Bridgewater, not positive or negative. He hit the open receivers,

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Speaker 1: they were both protected extremely well. He didn't have to

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Speaker 1: make any crazy throws. They didn't move the ball too well.

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Speaker 1: Was seven drives and they only had more than one

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Speaker 1: first down on one of them, So I didn't It

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Speaker 1: wasn't like a celebration, but the third down, the touchdown

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Speaker 1: on third and long was certainly a nice play. Him

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Speaker 1: stepping up, and you just want to see more. His

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Speaker 1: best work was in the red zone. And I think

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Speaker 1: the thing on Donald that they've said is the positive

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Speaker 1: all along is unflappable mentally. It's not he's not an

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Speaker 1: excitable individual like when you when you see his interviews

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Speaker 1: and stuff, and we shouldn't care about that at this point,

468
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Speaker 1: but it's just sort of a dude that seems like

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Speaker 1: he's pretty much never cowed by the moment, and this

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Speaker 1: would have been a chance to to react that way,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't. I thought, especially with the touchdown stuff. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I would like to see in the next game, or

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Speaker 1: if they can let him spread his wings a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He threw for what five point three yards per toss.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's maybe show give m a chance to

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Speaker 1: go a little vertical. Uh, do a little bit more

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Speaker 1: in the next stuff. He didn't have a chance to

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Speaker 1: show off that arm. That was why I didn't take anything,

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Speaker 1: nothing negative about it. But he had one route that

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Speaker 1: he just missed that that would have changed those numbers.

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Speaker 1: But Bridgewater is the other guy seven of eight eighty

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Speaker 1: five yards. Uh. They scored in both his possessions. And

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Speaker 1: I'm really trying to figure out how they're gonna play

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Speaker 1: this now. McCown is going to be out of the

485
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Speaker 1: equation more or less. I just wonder if if Bridgewater

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Speaker 1: has a real chance at the starting job too, or

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Speaker 1: if they really behind the scenes are ramping up. Well

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Speaker 1: what I would I would say, like, I would rather start.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna unless you're gonna trade Teddy Bridgewater and

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Speaker 1: you want to win games, and this coaching staff needs

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Speaker 1: to win games. If it's not Donald for some reason,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you start Bridgewater over Josh McCown, I guess, but

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Speaker 1: they said everything that they need to say on Sunday

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Speaker 1: and Monday in their practices. He got ten out of

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Speaker 1: twelve first team reps Sam Donald did on Sunday. He

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Speaker 1: got the vast majority on Monday. So this is kind

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Speaker 1: of how you do it. Sam Donald's gonna start this

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Speaker 1: second week game, and barring a total implosion, he's going

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Speaker 1: to start the third game too. And Teddy Bridgewater has

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Speaker 1: never been someone that they particularly care about his long

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Speaker 1: term future because it's it's not their future unless something

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Speaker 1: something wrong happened. So I think they would love Bridgewater

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Speaker 1: to play as his as Donald's back up the next

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Speaker 1: two weeks and play well, and they're praying for a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: fourth or fifth round pick for him or something like that.

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Speaker 1: That would be a win for them. But Bridgewater doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any guaranteed money in that contract. There's basically a

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Speaker 1: free Like look at Bridgewater, did you did you guys

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Speaker 1: feel the one thing on the falcon side it was

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Speaker 1: one of the most and I don't by design. There's

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Speaker 1: no Matt Ryan and there there's no Julio Jones, and

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not I'm not taking anything away from

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Speaker 1: the jet stand, but the Falcons produced don't are about

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Speaker 1: the final score anything. Falcons produced one of the most

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Speaker 1: uninspiring preseason performances I have ever seen in my entire life.

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Speaker 1: Well that was why I did not show up to

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Speaker 1: that game. Well that was why I was a little

518
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Speaker 1: hard to evaluate the quarterback. There was no path thresh whatsoever,

519
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: and the receivers were wide open. That's fine, you can

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Speaker 1: evaluate their backup quarterback. They need one the Falcons. Hey, Matt,

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00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: match I barely had any incompletions too. If you just

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Speaker 1: look started pretty hot. I don't think they scored any points.

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Speaker 1: Matt win nine for nine. I mean, actually tell you

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Speaker 1: everything you need to know about these games. If you're

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Speaker 1: looking for four yards and third and seven match shops,

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Speaker 1: you're gay. Let's move on. Check in with the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings and Denver Broncos. Oh shoot out at the Mile

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Speaker 1: High Stadium. Win for the Vikings. Everyone's gonna be zoned

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Speaker 1: in on the two new starting quarterbacks. And if you're

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Speaker 1: a Vikings fan, you're feeling good because Kirk Cousins and

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Speaker 1: limited work was four for four and uh threw a

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Speaker 1: touchdown on a slant a Stefon Diggs. But on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the ball case Keenum not looking too

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Speaker 1: sharp and his two drive cameo one of four for

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Speaker 1: five yards Uh Mark Sessler and Uh and the other

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks behind or at least the former first round pick

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00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: behind Keenum Paxton Lynch did not look good either. So

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Speaker 1: if you're somebody that's a little nervous about the Broncos

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Speaker 1: on offense, this game was not gonna leave any fears.

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Speaker 1: I I really wonder if Paxton Lynch has an NFL future,

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Speaker 1: because here you are mining into year three and you're

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00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: seeing no growth, You're seeing regression, and that reminds me

543
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: of another Broncos X Broncos quarterback named Broncos Swiler. I'm

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Speaker 1: very concerned there. I want to give you real quick

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Speaker 1: where we are at this point in time. My five

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Speaker 1: favorite NFL players right now? Yes, let's he number five,

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Speaker 1: and this is because he's his topical. Is Chad Kelly,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos ultra backup. Who is your favorite going to

549
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Speaker 1: make starts? The number five favorite player in the league. Kelly,

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Speaker 1: Yes he is. I've made this prediction last year. I'm

551
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Speaker 1: always a year early with these predictions. Number four, Chad Kelly,

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Speaker 1: number three and two Chad Kelly. And my top favorite

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Speaker 1: player in the NFL right now is Kelly coma chat.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any concerns whatsoever that he winds up

555
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Speaker 1: with his entire body and throws it every time? None whatsoever,

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Speaker 1: Because like clockwork, I'll fall into fascination with the wrong

557
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: quarterback around this time of year. Every year he is frisky.

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Speaker 1: I think he's fun to watch he every time he

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00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: dropped back, He's almost like a video game character every

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Speaker 1: single time, and there is that big wine up. He's

561
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: gutting like he's gutting a quick release. But he made

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00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: great throws in his college stats show that he loves

563
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: to push the ball down the field. He made more

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Speaker 1: plays in that one game than Paxson Lynch has made

565
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Speaker 1: in all of his preseason game. It's it's rare to

566
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Speaker 1: see an NFL quarterback look as uncomfortable just kind of

567
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Speaker 1: with what he's doing as a vocation as Paxton Lynch.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think he's gonna make that team. They'll

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Speaker 1: either cut him or I think they'll trade him for

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Speaker 1: like a conditional seven. Think about that two thousand sixteen

571
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: first round picks could be whom Jerry Jones tried to

572
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: trade up for and said he lost sleep when he

573
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: didn't get him. That's unreal, and then wound up with

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Speaker 1: Dak Pressent. Is this the situation though? And you know,

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00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: I hope Chad Kelly has a nice career, but I

576
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: just had three years in this very studio hearing about

577
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Speaker 1: another Broncos seventh round pick that was apparently really good,

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Speaker 1: but no one gave him the respect he deserves. Do

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Speaker 1: I get three years of Chad Kelly talking this podcast?

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Speaker 1: By the way, hashtag team trev I know, and I'm

581
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: not giving up on Trevi. It was in a tough situation,

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Speaker 1: well publicized seventh round pick at quarterback, like John Elway

583
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: can't pick first rounders at quarterback, but he's gonna nail

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Speaker 1: the seventh round who out of the last four years,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, if if he gets a back,

586
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: if Chad Kelly looks like a decent backup quarter right,

587
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, it's a little early to to

588
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: get too carried away. But if he gets at quarterbacks,

589
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. I'll tell you he was in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Carlson, the rookie drilled a fifty seven yard or

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Speaker 1: ego well and plus Kai as we've as we've learned

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00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: it behind the scenes, it's not one of these guys

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Speaker 1: that's there to help the young kicker. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you're a kicker and there's another kicker based on inside

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Speaker 1: information from someone very close to him that he'll never

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Speaker 1: know who it was, uh, maybe not a type of

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Speaker 1: guy that is going to handle adversity too well. Just

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Speaker 1: you know, keep your ear to the ground, sources that

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Speaker 1: go beyond just your typical insider. Uh yeah, Kai might

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Speaker 1: not handle this to I do like that this this

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Speaker 1: John Elway criticism, which it really you know, peaked I

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Speaker 1: think on this show throughout the off season. It's catching.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Denver post, which is usually kissing up

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Speaker 1: to him after this game, has a headline does John

605
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: always stink at picking quarterbacks? Case Keatum looks like a

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Speaker 1: journeyman in Paxton Lynden. He threw six it was snick

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Speaker 1: six snaps, two of which were handoff. They're already they're

608
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: already like just taking dirt out Case the same people

609
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Speaker 1: were saying, these people people get weird about the preseason

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Speaker 1: for sure. Anything else from this game, I think we

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Speaker 1: always relearn in week one that the past month and

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Speaker 1: a half means so very little. But if you were

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Speaker 1: inclined to believe that the Minnesota Vikings are absolutely loaded,

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00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: this game bolsters that opinion. And Dalvin Cook told Stacy

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00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: Dale's last week it's special around here. You can feel

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Speaker 1: it in the air. I'm just happy to be a

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Speaker 1: part of it. And to me, it's super Bowl or

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00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: bust around that team this year. Gott here a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on you right now. The Bears in first

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Speaker 1: round pick Roquan Smith have agreed to terms. That's breaking news, baby,

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Speaker 1: Oh thank god. And you know this was one of

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Speaker 1: the most frustrating hold ups even if you had no connection,

623
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Speaker 1: if you were in a Bears fan. But imagine if

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Speaker 1: you're a barrasser and he just want his teeth to

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Speaker 1: turn the corner and you got the number eight overall

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Speaker 1: pick and he can't get him in the building, and

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Speaker 1: now he's there. He literally training camp. They broke for

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Speaker 1: training camp on Sunday to go have a joint practice.

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Speaker 1: It was twenty eight days. A long time, but they

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Speaker 1: still have a while before the season starts. Can someone

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Speaker 1: clarify to one little bit of other breaking news, don't

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Speaker 1: ruin this. So the positive day for breaking news traumatic

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Speaker 1: pause Vikings right guard Mike Remer's previously banged up with

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Speaker 1: an ankle injury, has returned to practice. Breaking to let

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Speaker 1: the air out of the balloon there, Old Sizzler, you

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00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: did not know that. You did not know. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even though he was out of you did not know that.

638
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Speaker 1: I'm like mis Tren. I want West to start joining

639
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Speaker 1: in unquestionably breaking news corner. And I always knew I

640
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Speaker 1: had West with this. You don't joke around about news

641
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Speaker 1: not breaking newest item on Rhoda World, all right, but

642
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't make it like breaking. There's something you but

643
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: back to. So that's interesting for the guard situation in Minnesota.

644
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: But uh, he missed all training camp Smith and now

645
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: he's there. That's great. I'm always confused when they say, like, okay,

646
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: they broke for trading camp, but then there's the next

647
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: three weeks, which I understand they were in one place

648
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: that was not Chicago, and now they're going to a

649
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: different place. The media, there's different media rules, for instance

650
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Speaker 1: of how much you can watch practice and whether fans

651
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Speaker 1: are there. That is the difference. But ultimately what's the difference.

652
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: They're still just practicing every day. Could I make I

653
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Speaker 1: personal judgment on it. It's still training camp, Training camp

654
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Speaker 1: is continued. You're not bourbon A bourbon A Illinois. Thank god. Well, also,

655
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Speaker 1: we're not watching like fleets of NFL Network people in

656
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Speaker 1: their NFL Network garb and shorts. We don't to watch

657
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of male NFL Network talent in shorts for

658
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Speaker 1: the next year. It is a distinct break, and I

659
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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Bourbon A Mayor, you know, Denise McVeigh just

660
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Speaker 1: crashed their car into the side of the road, and yeah,

661
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: like she's listening at this show. She's got enough issues

662
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Speaker 1: on her hand in bourbon A bot if Aaron Donald

663
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: commissed all of the camp in the first game, is

664
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Speaker 1: still wins Defensive Player of the Year award. I would

665
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: think Rokwan Smith can miss camp and still win Defensive

666
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Leader. Yeah, so all right, that's us.

667
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: I guess thirteenth as well. I mean, he's got he's

668
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: got three weeks the biggest offset drama since what Joey Bosa,

669
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: since Sam Arnold deciding that he needed to, you know,

670
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: get all caught up with this going hiking thing two days.

671
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: That was two days al right, Like Joey Bosa that

672
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: was legitimately, remember their statements being released by both sides.

673
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: This one was the Chargers. That might have cost the

674
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: Chargers a playoff spot because they basically didn't have the

675
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: real Bosa for three or four weeks. They missed it

676
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: by one game and he was a house on five.

677
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: But didn't bo Jackson have to re enter the draft?

678
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: Didn't he sit out the entire season? Well, we're discussing

679
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: the Bucks took him right and then then the Raiders

680
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: took him. Totally different scenario because we're talking more like

681
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: the offset, lengthier holdout, a lengthier holdout. I want to

682
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Speaker 1: hear more about bourbon Ay and what. Don't get me

683
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Speaker 1: started on that place. I know, I know where it's

684
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Speaker 1: coming from. Really, you want to share too many morning

685
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Speaker 1: shifts where he's just watching people at bourbon A on

686
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Speaker 1: our air. I feel like it's no, that's that was

687
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Speaker 1: that um amplified it. That is not the court. Okay,

688
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: the way it's pronounced that amplified. Are you gonna see

689
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Speaker 1: is this? Will we eventually learned on this podcast? Will

690
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Speaker 1: we learn when the mics are offered. Will we just

691
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Speaker 1: never know what I'll have to assess. I mean it's

692
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Speaker 1: it's sensitive, not towards me, towards bourbon at Wow. Alright,

693
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Speaker 1: moving on one more game to talk about. Yes, those

694
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers and the Arizona Cardinals, and yes, another

695
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: rookie debut Josh Rosen uh for the Cardinals. Uh. And

696
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: he also Greg showed some signs why he's a dude

697
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Speaker 1: to be reckoned with, even though he didn't get much

698
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Speaker 1: attention because the box score wasn't great and he was

699
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Speaker 1: under pressure the whole time. He made about three throws

700
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Speaker 1: in this game that just got you excited to be

701
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: watching some Josh Rosen action during the season. What a

702
00:38:53,600 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: right here? This is like spicy beef jerky, You're beach

703
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: house throw with the ball like that? I mean, yeah,

704
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Speaker 1: Rod Wolfley, he's back in mid season for him work. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was a great out route to Uh to your

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Speaker 1: boy Tate Uh or no, not great? This is like

707
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Speaker 1: spicy beef jerky. Aren't your porch your beach house? Throw

708
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Speaker 1: with the ball like that? Are we suggesting some hi?

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Speaker 1: I think it's saying. I think it's saying. It's it's

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Speaker 1: perfect and I'm with him, nothing better than eating a

711
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: little spicy beef jerky. I'm with you, Ron Wolfley. And

712
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Speaker 1: then he thought for a second that means it was

713
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Speaker 1: a great throw eating the beef. But it's not even

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Speaker 1: good enough. I want to be eating it on my porch,

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Speaker 1: and not to be any old porch, my beach house.

716
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: That's like three levels up. How good that he did

717
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Speaker 1: keep adding to the scenario, which I'm just like, it's

718
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Speaker 1: the good life, okay, that I have no idea same game. Well,

719
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Speaker 1: I mean he is. He's been sitting all off season,

720
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Speaker 1: these things up in the mind. Somebody also shot me

721
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Speaker 1: a tweet he said something in the opening seconds of

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Speaker 1: the telecast. Some guys go out there they playing like

723
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Speaker 1: a bloated circle and other guys playing like a party triangle,

724
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Speaker 1: and Jeremy Cash it's a party triangle. I love it.

725
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Speaker 1: Is he leading into this a little bit. I think

726
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Speaker 1: he knows that going a little psychedelic with the thoughts

727
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: has gotten him some Twitter pop. But I think that's

728
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Speaker 1: who he is. I just think I think he's not

729
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Speaker 1: planning these out. In fact, I think this is coming

730
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Speaker 1: from This is just who he is. It was the

731
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Speaker 1: one last year. Wasn't he talking about making sun on

732
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Speaker 1: a sun like making a snow angel or something? And

733
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Speaker 1: I think it did it win or came? Yeah? I

734
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Speaker 1: think it um if not, maybe the yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say. Rosen had to have been having

736
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Speaker 1: U c l A flashbacks though, because they protected him

737
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Speaker 1: so poorly. So that's why the couple of plays that

738
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Speaker 1: he made, he had to evade pressure. Uh. And they

739
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: did announce on Monday. I found interesting they're gonna give

740
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Speaker 1: him more first team reps in the next preseason games.

741
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford will start, but Rosen will get more with

742
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Speaker 1: the starters. It's it's funny. That's something you do if

743
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Speaker 1: you're not like a hundred percent sure exactly how that

744
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Speaker 1: this is gonna go. It is interesting that I think

745
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: it's been under the radar, but they're trying to get

746
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: Rosen as prepared as possible, and they might use them

747
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: earlier than people. It's funny how disparate the opinions were

748
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: of this game and Josh Rosen, because Kent Summers from

749
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Republic saying that he came out not looking

750
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: like the most NFL ready quarterback, was rather critical of him.

751
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Speaker 1: But watching free rushers every well, right, watching watching his

752
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: throws number one, I thought he made he made a

753
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: couple of beautiful throws. But Wes you wrote a story

754
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: on August six titled it was a little throwaway news

755
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: piece called Cardinals lose Veterans center a Q Shipley to

756
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Speaker 1: torn A c l Suddenly you've got to potentially put

757
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: Mason Cole, your third rounder in there to start. And

758
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: it was Daniel Munner that I thought totally left Josh

759
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Rosen out to dry with some terrible snaps which we

760
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: which didn't seem to be brought up at times with

761
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: some of this. I don't think the shotgun snap is

762
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Munner's forte. He's working on it. Good to see

763
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: David Johnson back only two runs and they both looked strong,

764
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, put him away until the season starts.

765
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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford, who didn't do any running in his the

766
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: conditioning at the beginning of training camp and he basically

767
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: handed the ball off except for one throw in this game.

768
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they are like really announcing that they are

769
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Speaker 1: going to treat this man with you know, kid gloves,

770
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: with the bubble rap, and I get that, but when

771
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Speaker 1: the game start, there is gonna be no restrictions on

772
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Speaker 1: what people can do to Sam Bradford and domin Can

773
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Speaker 1: Sue told us that a couple of weeks ago. I

774
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Speaker 1: just I remain as even if he's healthy and he's,

775
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, right now maybe in line to be the starter,

776
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: there's nothing that we're seeing or anything that's gonna lead

777
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: should lead anyone to believe that this is a gonna

778
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: end with Rosen playing a lot because Bradford's body isn't

779
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: built for the game, we shall see. Can't disagree. I

780
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: can see Ron Wolfley, by the way, being good friends

781
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: with Bill Walton and going to like a ton of

782
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: grateful dead shows together. Like one other thing from this game.

783
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: Jason Rhet didn't play for the Chargers last year, and

784
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: they still had a top ten defense. They look even

785
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: faster this year with those three rookies. I really like

786
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I know Dan doesn't like um compliments directed

787
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: towards the Chargers, but I still like this. Tam Now,

788
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: You're right positivity Derwin James is. I think they're very

789
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: excited about This is year two of Gus Bradley's system,

790
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: and they I think they have the best pass rush

791
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: duo in the league, and they have a very deep secondary.

792
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's about That's exactly what you're looking for.

793
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: You just need the Chargers DNA that it's that has

794
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: that we are tired up at this point. I think

795
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: their fans obviously are is this. We cannot close out games,

796
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: and no matter even if we brought, you know, a

797
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: twenty three year old made in the lab like version

798
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: of Sebastian Janikowski, we would still somehow lose four kick

799
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: four games on the last second kick every season to

800
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: that point. Like even what you were saying earlier, Greg,

801
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Speaker 1: because you're a Charger stand too. It's like, well, if

802
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: only Joey Bosa came back one week earlier. It's like, listen,

803
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: these guys make their own luck, and they're the Chargers

804
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: for a reason, and maybe this will be the air changes,

805
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: that's all. You don't believe that, I don't, But you

806
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: don't have any roster Gino. Gino looked pretty decent. What

807
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: are they going to do. Looks like Gina's gonna win

808
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: that backup job over Cardel Jones, which his career would

809
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: be basically be over. Now. You can't, honestly, Greg, you

810
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: don't still you don't still carry this torch for Gino Smith.

811
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Speaker 1: I've had to have released. I think he's better than

812
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: people think. And if he had a chance in a

813
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: in a great situation like the Chargers, he'd played pretty well.

814
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: Aren't there at this point so many other quarterbacks to

815
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 1: be interested in than Gino Smith? Why not be lloyal?

816
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: Should be? You know, well, it's loyal, hasn't He still

817
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: hasn't really played since that one four game stretch that

818
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: I liked he played last year. I thought he looked

819
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: pretty good one that game. He did play better than

820
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Cardinal Jones. But the book on Gino Smith, and believe

821
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: me on this, is that he's a turnover machine. I

822
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: believe he threw a pick and a fumble, uh in

823
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: limited action this week. Generally not, It's generally not to

824
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: the player's favor when he's been for four years. Because

825
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: Gino Smith, come on, give me a Gino Smith in

826
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: the locker room. Is someone that you know teammates have

827
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: not warmed up. Two coaches don't warm up. I mean

828
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: that matters if you're a quarterback on the right side

829
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Speaker 1: of history. Greg. They've wound up on Gino Smith and

830
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: have not warmed up now missed kicks for the Chargers

831
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Speaker 1: sturgis one for one A GUYO hit a couple of

832
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Speaker 1: extra points bang, which should not be or in that

833
00:45:53,760 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: game you say one for one? Um? All right? The

834
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: best part of that is not only not only uh

835
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: did he make that comment? I would just assume the

836
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: play by play guy who's been hearing this for years

837
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: usually lets these goes go. But after that it was like, wait,

838
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: what well? And that and that was were you and

839
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: I recovering the game that night? Dan, We had come

840
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: back and do a Thursday night wrap up And I

841
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: only happen to hear that because I was listening to

842
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: the radio broadcast on my phone and I had to

843
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: do a double take. What did this guy just say?

844
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: And then when the minute I got to where we

845
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Speaker 1: had a beer beforehand and we gotta die the same?

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00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: All right? That is the recap all the Week one

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. Confidence rating entering week two the

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Speaker 1: preseason or this week depends how you want to look

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00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: at it, Uh Mark, Why don't I start it? Ties

889
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: into something that we already talked about? Um in the

890
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: another segment we did what was the segment where it

891
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,440
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892
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: What no, what no one else is talking about, but

893
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: they should be that segment I I I said that

894
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: I thought the Brown the Broncos were closer to a

895
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: four win outfit than a playoff team. And uh, I'm

896
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: not gonna get too excited about Week one of the preseason.

897
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: But again, Paxton Lynch a complete wash out. As we

898
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: just talked about Chad Kelly. Everybody get all excited about

899
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: John always Skill taking seventh round quarterbacks. I'm just not

900
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna do it. And that leaves Case Keenum. Is he

901
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: the right guy? Uh? Is he gonna have the same

902
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: type of seasons season? We'll see about that. But if

903
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm a fan and I'm a columnist at the Denver Post,

904
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: and I'm freaking out right now, I would put the

905
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: confidence level surrounding the Broncos quarterback room at a oh

906
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: three point one uh entering week to the pre season,

907
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: just because this doesn't feel right, This doesn't pass the

908
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: smell test three point one. I mean, this is the

909
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: ultimate sample size ridiculousness. If Case Keenum, you know, completed

910
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: a twenty yard pass instead of missing one and no

911
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: one would care is four throws? Don't don't hit me

912
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: with that because I'm not facing just on the preseason game.

913
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: I was ahead of this before the game, and I'm

914
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: sticking with it. Greg three point one. I mean this

915
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: quarterback room put the last year's quarterback room put the

916
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: defense in such a fixed week after week. You have

917
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: to think that if you get any version of Case

918
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: Kingdom even close to last year, and he's on a

919
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: much different offense, and it's that's probably where the regression

920
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: is going to come from. The surrounding characters. But can

921
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: you possibly produce as many bone headed turnovers in opposing

922
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: terror in your own territory as you did last year

923
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: for that defense? I think it's got to be better.

924
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: It's Courtland Sutton gonna improve the team. People seem to

925
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: like him as Royce Freeman gonna improve the team. Made

926
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: a couple of plays the other night. We're not going

927
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: to know until the regular season. To me, it's all

928
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: about the offensive line. Protected you say the quarterback room,

929
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: I would still take Trevor. I would take Trevor Simeon

930
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: on the Vikings over like Case Keenum on the Broncos.

931
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: It's like you you think about the surroundings, like if

932
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Simeon had to play for the Vikings, I think they'll

933
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: do fine. So it's more about the surroundings than it

934
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: is just case keen three point one, Mark, you're up

935
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: all right. I was gonna go Vikings, but I think

936
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: West summed up the Vikings really well in the last

937
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: chat we had, so I am going to well, it's

938
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: just redundant. We get the Vikings. The Vikings are soaring

939
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: towards anything less than an NFC title game. Probably at

940
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: home would be disappointed. I don't like that. If I'm

941
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: a thinker, that'd be nervous too. But you have to

942
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: at some point this is what you want. You want

943
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: to be that team, and now you gotta slay the Dragons.

944
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: There is a Eagles, rams you know, Packers. There's good teams.

945
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: Maybe the ninety nine season after they did the fifteen

946
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: and one and blew the Gary Anderson game. Could you

947
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: look at the Vikings team and say there there have

948
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: been this man, the expectations were this high? Well, I

949
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: would say this, I'd say real quick with them. One thing,

950
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: you're getting Dalvin Cook back and you haven't lost anything,

951
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: and you maybe and you potentially quarterback. So I created

952
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: on the defensive line with Sheldon Richard have a first

953
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: round cornerback that they really like that might actually end

954
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: up playing great coaching staff usually, but my confidence level

955
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: has risen on a team called the Bengals from Cincinnati.

956
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: This was mine too, was it? I took your vikings?

957
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: Is well? What a revenge move by Zessler kids and

958
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: cousins falling upon I think spinning about this, I've got

959
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: it back about this. I'll pause on this though. I'll

960
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: let you know to get out of here. It's the

961
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: whole a f C. North. I think the whole a

962
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: f C. North is on the upswing. Right now, we

963
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: are going to talk about the Breads, talk about talking

964
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: about them at all. They're the team I think is

965
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: probably still going to be a four or five win team.

966
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: It's the I don't know if Joe Flacco is gonna

967
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: be Kenny Stable or two. Here, let settle down with that.

968
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: He's still Joe Flacco and he's not gonna have a

969
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: breakout season at age thirty three or whatever. But every

970
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: one of these teams outside of Cleveland, I could see

971
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: all of them in the playoffs. Cincinnati is the team.

972
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: I did not think that about two months ago. I

973
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: just thought it's another Andy Dalton situation where even if

974
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: you get the best version of many Dalton are gonna

975
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: find a way to go nine and seven or eight

976
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: and eight and get bumped from this. But I really think,

977
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: and it's based a little bit on what we saw

978
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: in the preseason game, that Joe Mixon is ready to

979
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: be the lead dude. You've got a lot happening at

980
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I think you have more speed on that team.

981
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: West had your comment, well, I would say that. I

982
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: would say right now now, I just I don't want to.

983
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: I feel I entered the off season at the same

984
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: like three point one that Dan feels about the Broncos offense.

985
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: That's how I felt about the Bengals offense in January,

986
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: and every month it's just gone higher to the point

987
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: where I give the Bengals offense about a seven point

988
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: four Right now on my confidence scale, I'll go about

989
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: seven seven six. What was that? Dan is just writing?

990
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: Just set the note to me? Should we bail on

991
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: this set? I think it's going so poor, it's fun. Well,

992
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: let's let's keep Let's definitely keep it. It's keep it going,

993
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: it's fun. We're just talking about football. I'll go next, Well,

994
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: I think West is up. Okay, go ahead? Wait do

995
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: you want to go though? Go ahead? Hey? What the hell?

996
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean? What's the order? What does it matter? Well? Typically, yes,

997
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: the order I go Mark. It's a liberating feeling being

998
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: in the middle of a disaster because you can't really

999
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: mess it up more the Tennessee Titans. I was at

1000
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: about an eight in terms of the confidence scale coming

1001
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: into the preseason, and right now I'm at a five

1002
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: point seven in the confident scale. Very under the radar.

1003
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: They've just kind of a weird camp that just a

1004
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: lot of things are just kind of adding up. Corey

1005
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: Davis has been in and out of practice, missed the

1006
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: preseason open. He's out there now, so that's not a

1007
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: huge issue. But Richard Matthews has not practiced at all.

1008
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: No one has said why he's hurt. He's a key

1009
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: part of that team. He hasn't been out there. Jack

1010
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: Conklin is coming off of a very serious injury. He

1011
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: has not practiced one bit. Who knows if he's going

1012
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: to be ready. Those are two key starters and offense

1013
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: for Sean Evans. Everyone was really excited he's going to

1014
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: help change their defense. He hasn't practiced since the second

1015
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: or third day at camp. Brian A. Rackbo has not

1016
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: practiced since the second or third day at camp. Jonathan Cyprian.

1017
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: Their safety is out for the season, and so these

1018
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: are four or five kind of key guys and it's

1019
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: a new staff and you just add him up. My

1020
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: confidence level going down. Let me answ you this, what

1021
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: is your confidence level that Corey Davis will play all

1022
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: sixteen games? Three point nine? That might be too high.

1023
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: Three point nine. He hasn't been a healthy, healthy pro

1024
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: or or in college for that matter, Dan, Marcus Mariota

1025
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: stay healthy. That's a good question. Dan, Your confidence level

1026
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: in this segment hasn't risen with Gregg's promising entry right there.

1027
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: Let's see when I started, I would say it was

1028
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: like at a two point three, and then it went

1029
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: down to about one point nine, and then it went

1030
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: to Greg and it's up to like a two. Yeah. Wait,

1031
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: now this is an upcoming column from you, so that

1032
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: does not I'll throw one out there. This is from

1033
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: Greg's excellent Winners Losers column of Week one of the preseason.

1034
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: A tweet from Armando Salgaro of the Miami Hairs can

1035
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: only help that Davian Howard, but the Dolphins cornerback has

1036
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: stolen DeVante parker soul. My confidence is Avian Howard because

1037
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: I watched him shut people down late last season emerging

1038
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: as a number one cornerback. Is it about an eight

1039
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: point eight right now? My confidence in DeVante Parker is

1040
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: it about a one point m? I like that. That's good,

1041
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 1: Like that's good for the Dolphins and also absolutely terrible

1042
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins, like they need Parker to become the

1043
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: breakout guy. It's one of those things too, that's been

1044
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: day after day, like every single training camp recap. It's

1045
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: like DeVante Parker another tough day, whereas Avian Howard just

1046
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: destroyed him. I have a feeling Toavie and Howard would

1047
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: be doing that to any of the Dolphins receivers. Put

1048
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: Albert Wilson on the field a little more. Wasn't with

1049
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: the starters at all? Dollars put him on the field.

1050
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: Um final confidence grade for this seg wow. Coincidentally, same

1051
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: as a confidence in the Broncos quarterback Roun with three

1052
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: point one. This segment will not be brought back. I

1053
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: mean it was, it was short though, you know, if

1054
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: if it's not it's not, especially for the listeners fast

1055
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Speaker 1: forwarding for it. Um, all right, we will be back

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Speaker 1: Wednesday with another episode, thanks of course to ice Cube.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, great star uh in the building. The most

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Speaker 1: famous person ever on this podcast, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the second most famous rapper on the show ever.

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Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, Little Debbie might still have the crown.

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Speaker 1: But ice Cube, thank you to him for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on when to stay with Yes, Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, I can't believe I didn't mention it sooner Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: The return of the Around the NFL podcast Fantasy Extravaganza

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Speaker 1: that will be on Wednesday, where we share all the

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Speaker 1: nuggets and a return. I know everybody wants this. Get

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Speaker 1: back on that fantasy corner. Mark Sessler at the corner, Uh,

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Speaker 1: just spitting info. Rough neighborhood out there. Rough, it's getting worse.

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Speaker 1: It's not getting nicer, it's getting uglier. The neighborhood and

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Speaker 1: than the scientists in the lab, including the brick by

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Speaker 1: Brick founders of Rhoda World Weston and Greg will Well,

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Speaker 1: you can't put me. I didn't build that place brick

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Speaker 1: by Brick. That was Greg on his own the legend

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Speaker 1: is taking on its own life, you know at this point.

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Speaker 1: Uh so we'll have all our fantasy because we know

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Speaker 1: the you should be drafting in the next week or two,

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Speaker 1: so we will have you hooked up there. Or you don't,

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Speaker 1: maybe try a season without fantasy football, maybe some a

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Speaker 1: new hobby, save that for the fantasy corner. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Stan Hanson signing about four Quiet Storm of the Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the Old Boss and uh ice Cube, ice Cube, Bitcoin

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Speaker 1: Famous Rapper and the Bitcoin Princess behind the Glass till Wednesday,