Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, try not
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Speaker 1: how does this team stay focused?
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Speaker 2: You want to recap o?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's I want to know what you
Speaker 1: guys did for your bye week to kind of stay
Speaker 1: locked in, rest.
Speaker 3: Relax, but also stay focused because as we all know,
Speaker 3: it's tough. Yeah, being in a bye because you're.
Speaker 2: Like, oh I get to relax, but you really don't.
Speaker 3: Still got four games left? Yeah, yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: And we had that late bye in.
Speaker 5: Thirteen leave thirteen. Yeah, so you want to know what
Speaker 5: we did on a bye? Yeah, what'd you do this
Speaker 5: time around? No backing them.
Speaker 3: I don't playing. I don't need to know.
Speaker 5: I'm an older guy these days, I trust me, I'm
Speaker 5: not partaking in no foolishness. But no, honestly, back in
Speaker 5: them days, it depends you know, I remember, I believe
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken. Thirteen it was like when we needed
Speaker 5: that reset. Was it was a little bit late, was
Speaker 5: a we was beat up a lot. It wasn't a
Speaker 5: little beat up. We was beat up a lot and
Speaker 5: we just needed to kind of get away. I remember twelve.
Speaker 5: Let me go back as early as twenty twelve when
Speaker 5: we had a sort of late by to It wasn't
Speaker 5: like as in week fourteen, late, but it was late
Speaker 5: compared to what we had been through.
Speaker 2: It was perfect time.
Speaker 5: And I believe because I think when we came out
Speaker 5: of that by that was we gave that you know,
Speaker 5: that run to the playoffs and we all fell.
Speaker 3: You can you can.
Speaker 2: See everybody just recharged.
Speaker 5: I mean, I remember, I remember that game at the
Speaker 5: gate against you know, Philly at home. That was the
Speaker 5: game that a lot of people show the highlight with
Speaker 5: me going over the guys back and I remember, he just.
Speaker 2: Know it wasn't one because I only catch that game.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen that catch though, makes you go
Speaker 1: check it out on YouTube. It's one of the sickest
Speaker 1: catches you'll ever see.
Speaker 6: Because you're not a you're not a big guy, but
Speaker 6: you literally like lost his last name happened to be
Speaker 6: just coincidentally, two dudes, And it was literally Robert arm
Speaker 6: punting this thing.
Speaker 1: This is a gett nerdy you guys here, it's a
Speaker 1: dig concept. So there's an outside guy's got a twenty
Speaker 1: yard in and Tanner's the slot guy's got her through.
Speaker 3: And the read on that.
Speaker 2: Is you never throw through, you throw lessons.
Speaker 1: Two men. Yeah it was not two man and Robert
Speaker 1: just watched that thing, so good job Tanner.
Speaker 5: But honestly, remembering that play, remembering that play, cow had
Speaker 5: just like, I don't know what was earlier that week.
Speaker 5: He was like, you guys gotta come out here and
Speaker 5: make a play, you know what I mean, if someone
Speaker 5: needs to make a play, And that's all. It always
Speaker 5: popped back up in my head remembering that was the
Speaker 5: reason why I did what I did on my bye week. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I went away and chat and got you know, first
Speaker 5: time in a loan time, went out of town and
Speaker 5: just kind of reset, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 5: want to see something different, you know, put myself in
Speaker 5: a different you know, I guess you can say environment.
Speaker 5: When it came to the weather, went to the Bahamas,
Speaker 5: came back, I was ready to go, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 2: So that's what I would have done back then.
Speaker 5: Now what I would add to if I had to
Speaker 5: put myself in the shoes of the players today, on
Speaker 5: our team today, I don't think I would have left.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would left.
Speaker 5: Knowing where we're at right now with our season, we're
Speaker 5: we're trending, you know far as you know, playoff, you know,
Speaker 5: birth and everything like that. I would like to have
Speaker 5: a chance to just kind of dive into just whatever
Speaker 5: is telling me, whatever's bothering me, whether it's something that
Speaker 5: I haven't you know, did did right this season throughout
Speaker 5: my game, or whether it's an injury, get on that,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, relax and enjoy the family.
Speaker 4: Well I usually go back to I used to go
Speaker 4: back to my mom how just for some not real food,
Speaker 4: but just soul food. Just like to be back in
Speaker 4: Mississippi where everything, Lord, it's a lot warmer, and just
Speaker 4: to be around my family. That helped me just unplugged
Speaker 4: because it felt normal, It felt like my old normal
Speaker 4: to be around them and listen to them talk trash
Speaker 4: about what happened three days three games ago. This person
Speaker 4: a did thing and it mentally just got me back
Speaker 4: there just to be around my family and doing a
Speaker 4: little bit of nothing.
Speaker 2: Like it's not like I'm going back.
Speaker 3: To Did you train weekend?
Speaker 2: Listen?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: I used to jog, but my feet hurt, all right,
Speaker 2: even hurt. Listen them clicks.
Speaker 4: I worsed in high hills, all right, clicks, clicks, they
Speaker 4: worse a little.
Speaker 2: So I used to go back and just chill.
Speaker 4: And I go back to Mississippi. I chill with my family.
Speaker 4: A couple of days. I drive to the coast of Mississippi.
Speaker 4: Put these feet in some hot sand, just like really nothing.
Speaker 3: Other beaches in Mississippi.
Speaker 4: They're great, by the way, go to Biloxi, tell the
Speaker 4: fred Smooth Centure. The casinos are great. The boulevard is there.
Speaker 4: There's tons of stuff to do. The Mississippi beaches. We
Speaker 4: never get it's a golf beach, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Mexico, yes, it's pretty, so aren't.
Speaker 2: This is where fresh water met South water, so it's
Speaker 2: a little bit more murkier. Didn't in Miami pretty lake year, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like l.
Speaker 3: Did.
Speaker 2: She said we were just.
Speaker 1: Surf Yeah, I mean I was found going going home
Speaker 1: for the bye was so nice, but I also found
Speaker 1: it was a little bit hard to kind of bounce back.
Speaker 2: Minton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I was thinking about twelve because that's what
Speaker 1: you talked about. I went back to see my wife's said,
Speaker 1: we live in California. Yeah, Monterey, California beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh my gosh, it was amazing, but.
Speaker 2: Like Tennessippy beaches compared to Mississippi.
Speaker 3: Yeah, period hit the Pacific Ocean out there.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: But yeah, then coming back here, I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know what just happened. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it made it harder to kind of reset. So
Speaker 1: after twenty twelve, I remember, I was like, I'm never
Speaker 1: going back. Let's stay around, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just hard to like refocus.
Speaker 2: I think too. You know, you got to you know,
Speaker 2: you was much.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think twenty twelve is only what two
Speaker 5: or three years, third year, you know, for you myself,
Speaker 5: I'm talking about year twelve, year thirteen, So I have
Speaker 5: to do something different.
Speaker 2: I've been doing the whole sit down, stay locked in
Speaker 2: and it worked.
Speaker 5: But then at times when you're in those seasons where
Speaker 5: you have that I need to get away, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. So that's why I say, if I
Speaker 5: had to put myself in a player shoes today, you know,
Speaker 5: with what's trending for them, I wouldn't try to get
Speaker 5: I just stay, you know what I mean. I just
Speaker 5: want to go in the house and you can go
Speaker 5: down the street somewhere to a different location, local, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And I wouldn't have got on
Speaker 5: no planes though. I would have just stayed somewhere where
Speaker 5: I can drive and get back. And not only that,
Speaker 5: just kept myself in tune with what's going on. I've
Speaker 5: been watching a lot of football, you know, and I'm
Speaker 5: one of those guys I'm always locked in.
Speaker 2: I'm watching games regardless.
Speaker 5: I'm just one of those football heads, like I'm going
Speaker 5: to watch all regardless of whether I'm playing or not.
Speaker 5: And I think for these guys, man, that would have
Speaker 5: been good for them just to you know, kind of
Speaker 5: you know, not so reset, because I think that momentum
Speaker 5: they went into the bye with, you want to come
Speaker 5: out of that bye with that same moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think I would have been just on
Speaker 4: mechanic alerk. I'd have been trying to fix whatever the shoulders.
Speaker 4: You know, if it's the need at the time, did.
Speaker 3: You have someone that you want to because ibody I.
Speaker 4: Had a couple of got couple of former trainers that
Speaker 4: God had here, and then like Larry has a lot
Speaker 4: of guys that I'd be like, I just called them
Speaker 4: up and be like, man, my body hurt.
Speaker 2: Can you work on me?
Speaker 4: And so I'll go into mechanic mode at that time,
Speaker 4: trying to make sure I'm good so when we do
Speaker 4: come back. The one thing you know from playing in
Speaker 4: the league, you want to finish good because you never
Speaker 4: know your coaching situation. You never know your situation. So
Speaker 4: I would have been like, let me let let's finish
Speaker 4: what we started. So I just went into repair mode.
Speaker 1: And I will say one of the worst things about
Speaker 1: the buyers when you're hurt, Yeah, you can't leave the building.
Speaker 2: You can't leave. You gotta stay here. I've been him, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know you've been there.
Speaker 3: I've been there a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's like, I hope I'm healthy before the buy. Then
Speaker 3: you're never It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I got a concussion in twenty twelve right before the
Speaker 2: BUYE ain't. Boy, that's the worst. And there was a game.
Speaker 2: I literally got an cussion. We played the.
Speaker 5: The Panthers at Haunts right and I ran an out
Speaker 5: route smash right on our side.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: I remembered it, and it's crazy.
Speaker 5: I got a cushion a gain, but I remember the concussion,
Speaker 5: and I remember.
Speaker 2: Them talking about, Yeah, we're gonna have to keep you here.
Speaker 2: Everything fine. I ain't seeing him, man, you got me
Speaker 2: all missed up.
Speaker 4: I had to stay the year. I fractured my stern them,
Speaker 4: which I can't practice. All I can do is watch
Speaker 4: them and I play in the game every sthing. So
Speaker 4: when we got to the bye week, I was like,
Speaker 4: it ain't like y'all rehab, you know what I'm saying, because.
Speaker 2: They couldn't start politicing right.
Speaker 4: You're like, I feel I'm like, I'm not missing games,
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I'm doing my point.
Speaker 2: Like you can't heal me.
Speaker 4: I don't go into the training room, all right, so
Speaker 4: everything that's happening to me, it won't change if I
Speaker 4: get to go home.
Speaker 2: They're like, nah, you gotta stay here.
Speaker 5: Speaking speaking of being injured on the body, wanted to
Speaker 5: shut the story with you guys, to tell you my
Speaker 5: how bumpy my road was when I first got in
Speaker 5: the league. So remind you my first year, tore my
Speaker 5: knee before I even played the game. Had I had
Speaker 5: a lateral meniscus tear. So it was not like something
Speaker 5: like ACL But you know most Munisicus terars, they.
Speaker 2: Just carved you out.
Speaker 5: Four weeks you're back, which I ought to get my repaired. Yeah,
Speaker 5: tot to the advice of my agent. Shout out to
Speaker 5: Drew Rosenhouse and his brother Jason. Those guys say, Tanna,
Speaker 5: with what you do, how young you are, I would
Speaker 5: rather you get a second opinion.
Speaker 2: I went down to Miami.
Speaker 5: U Reeby was my doctor University in Miami told me, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm not letting you go back without surgery right now.
Speaker 5: We're repairing it. We're not gonna have you carved out.
Speaker 5: So we saved my cartlage. So with all that being said,
Speaker 5: the just was pissed off. I missed like the missed
Speaker 5: all the preseason. Then I missed twelve weeks, came back
Speaker 5: with like at least four weeks left.
Speaker 2: I played to my squad. I mean it was just
Speaker 2: a small thing.
Speaker 5: The next week, as soon as I get off on
Speaker 5: my knee, I tell my car out the gate. I
Speaker 5: still have the defect in my card to the day
Speaker 5: I tour it like nasty. So anyway, long story short,
Speaker 5: that you might were scrapped that year. Right The next
Speaker 5: year is my second year. I start off in training
Speaker 5: camp with a hamstring tweet. You know, it's just tweaked.
Speaker 5: Now it goes to a tear. So I remember playing
Speaker 5: on a week hamstring for like the first three four weeks,
Speaker 5: and then we get a buye. I gotta stay because
Speaker 5: my hamstreen is ailing me like I'm and you hear
Speaker 5: you hear the whole media, I mean the new your media,
Speaker 5: but is he he hasn't showed up, and I stayed.
Speaker 5: I remember praying so much. I remember bringing flying the
Speaker 5: guy in there. I knew we treated that hamstring like
Speaker 5: as if it was like you know, I was on
Speaker 5: my last leg of life, Like hey man, we're going
Speaker 5: to make sure at least when you get off this
Speaker 5: by this hamstring is working. Yeah, get off the Bobby
Speaker 5: play Kansas City Chiefs. I scored my first NFL touchdown
Speaker 5: and it was just I was.
Speaker 2: Just reflect with Dale Carter out there at the time Warfield,
Speaker 2: So that's why I scored on them.
Speaker 5: Forty two Warfield Field. Yeah, that's the one I scored on.
Speaker 5: But del Carter was still playing. Yeah, but he was
Speaker 5: in the Ravens at the time. All right, all right, yeah,
Speaker 5: So just to you know, some of the things that
Speaker 5: we grow through as players and how we have to
Speaker 5: spend these buys. Man, I just I remember being young
Speaker 5: and like almost in tears, like every year, like, man,
Speaker 5: I'm hurt on it.
Speaker 2: I'm never getting home on the back. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: But that's one of these stories when you think about it.
Speaker 5: And when I got to that year twelve, you're thirteen, Like,
Speaker 5: I deserve something because I remember the bumpy start, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I deserve to get away.
Speaker 5: Now I'm able to you know, have a clean bill
Speaker 5: of health and be able to play on the level
Speaker 5: that I want to play on.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So this is the other question I want to
Speaker 1: ask you guys. So everyone goes away for the buy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's in charge of like kind of saying, hey.
Speaker 2: Stay in line, stay in line, and then stay street.
Speaker 1: Tanna said this too, like when we come back, this
Speaker 1: is the level of folks we gotta have. So there's
Speaker 1: two parts like, hey, this.
Speaker 3: Is we're not gonna mess up on the by yeah,
Speaker 3: and then how do we get refocused for the boy
Speaker 3: who's responsible for.
Speaker 5: I want to mention it because I remember our tone setter,
Speaker 5: London Fletcher would always be a guy that get up
Speaker 5: and speak in front of the whole staff and the
Speaker 5: players and like, hey, listen, man, we got to have
Speaker 5: this kind of focus. You know what I mean, You guys,
Speaker 5: get away and enjoy yourself, but at the same time,
Speaker 5: don't be out here doing these things stupid.
Speaker 2: When we get back, man, it's go time.
Speaker 5: I remember London having chance some sentiments as a player,
Speaker 5: but when you got a guy like him on.
Speaker 2: Your team that that do this. Now, we had a
Speaker 2: bunch of guys like him on our team. You name it,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna call some names. I'm gonna be I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be him today. We had Fred Davis', we had
Speaker 2: Fred Smooth's, we had you name it.
Speaker 5: I mean, it was some guys that you know, you
Speaker 5: might say that to these guys, but they gonna do them.
Speaker 5: But longest when they got between the white line. And
Speaker 5: that's one of the things I loved about Coach Gibbs.
Speaker 5: And this is something that a lot of people take
Speaker 5: for granted, but coach Gibbs said something earlier, you know,
Speaker 5: when he came back in his second stint of coaching
Speaker 5: to us. He say, look, man, you know people always
Speaker 5: ask me how I did it, and you know when
Speaker 5: it comes to different characters, you know that we have
Speaker 5: on your team, like you have guys that he said, Man,
Speaker 5: I deal with the worst. You know, I had guys
Speaker 5: I want super Bowls with that wouldn't show up some weeks.
Speaker 5: But he said one thing I've always held them to
Speaker 5: when you come to practice, I care less what you
Speaker 5: did at home or did last night. I need you
Speaker 5: to be on the same caliber that you need to
Speaker 5: be on for us to be a successful team. So
Speaker 5: that's what to me always stood out. Man, I don't
Speaker 5: care how much you drunk last night. I don't care
Speaker 5: where you went last night. Because I sometimes partake to
Speaker 5: know them outings. As long as I come to practice
Speaker 5: and have a practice that they know that's on the
Speaker 5: caliber of me as a player.
Speaker 2: They could say less.
Speaker 5: So I do remember having guys stand up like that,
Speaker 5: like in London, and then I do remember looking at
Speaker 5: something the guys, some of the knuckle heads, like let
Speaker 5: me see what he did this bridge? He better come
Speaker 5: with it because we don't gonna win it. Then you
Speaker 5: know you're gonna get you with out.
Speaker 4: I think the head coach also gives that warning, you know,
Speaker 4: right when we play the game and we had a
Speaker 4: meeting the next day, Guys, before y'all scattered to do
Speaker 4: what you gotta do, remember this, protecting this the PARTICI team.
Speaker 4: Protect yourself and understand the season not over just because
Speaker 4: you get a break. Look at it as a weekend.
Speaker 4: A right other than that, come back, be sharp, be ready.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you got your players that stand up and say,
Speaker 4: you know, let's keep it in line. But then I
Speaker 4: just think the head coach always gives that stern warning.
Speaker 5: Almost Mike was good at that, shut up, at getting
Speaker 5: up and telling us stuff like that. But I think too, man,
Speaker 5: it gets to a point where you as an individual, Man,
Speaker 5: I didn't need nothing.
Speaker 2: I didn't need Mike, I didn't need London. Yep.
Speaker 5: It was good to hear that because I knew it
Speaker 5: was a lot of guys that wasn't you know. I
Speaker 5: guess you can say had the foundation or mentally focused
Speaker 5: like myself, But man, I was always glued into what
Speaker 5: we had to do, you know, want the task.
Speaker 2: And even on seasons where it wasn't going well. For
Speaker 2: that's the hardest one. I cared.
Speaker 5: Les's about getting away because I'm like, man, I gotta finish.
Speaker 5: Like what you just said, mentioned earlier folks fail and
Speaker 5: realized you got to think about it. I spent ten
Speaker 5: years here, and through those ten years, I had three
Speaker 5: different coaches I had, I had Gibbs, I had Zon
Speaker 5: my bad four different coaches. I had Gibbs, I had Zon,
Speaker 5: I had Mike shanahand and I had your boy, Jay Gruden.
Speaker 2: So a lot of those years we didn't do well.
Speaker 5: So if you just say we ain't doing well, well,
Speaker 5: let me let me go to California, then you don't come.
Speaker 2: Back next year. You know what I'm saying. You don't
Speaker 2: have that right to come back. You don't hit that opportunity.
Speaker 5: So I was always focused on, regardless of what we
Speaker 5: did as a team, eighty nine can't put bad stuff
Speaker 5: on tape, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And you know some seasons don't always work out your
Speaker 2: way when it comes to numbers.
Speaker 5: But when they turn that tape on and they see
Speaker 5: you flying around and see who's playing, I wanted them
Speaker 5: to always look Okay, we ain't got to look at
Speaker 5: this kid. We're gonna look at the next guy, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So that's how I've always paid
Speaker 5: attention to what I was doing because I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we're playing football, and it's been our childhood game, you know,
Speaker 5: from day one. But it was my job and it
Speaker 5: was something I took serious well. I think also, people
Speaker 5: forget this. It's a big city, little city.
Speaker 1: Just to this.
Speaker 4: I always say this. People always wonder why Green Bay
Speaker 4: is good all the time. Pittsburgh is good all the time,
Speaker 4: and Buffalo is good most of the time. These city
Speaker 4: has these up. I said, these are dead cities like
Speaker 4: these are cities that are very small, and these guys
Speaker 4: are all football. If you live in Green Bay for
Speaker 4: during the season, you have no off the field things
Speaker 4: grabbing at you in the city is not pulling at
Speaker 4: you any of this. They never leave on their breaks.
Speaker 4: They just it's wake up football is go to sleep football.
Speaker 4: And I've always tried to tell people look at these
Speaker 4: small tent town teams and the mentality that these guys
Speaker 4: play with.
Speaker 2: Sunday is the only thing they got Monday through Saturday.
Speaker 2: They have nothing.
Speaker 4: They don't have the nation's capitol, they don't have Miami,
Speaker 4: they don't have Houston. They are singlear focused on only football.
Speaker 4: And that's a that's a plus when it comes to sports.
Speaker 2: You can't bring that fun to you.
Speaker 3: We know that.
Speaker 4: You know, of course you can when you bring that
Speaker 4: fun to you. Think about it. If you fly somebody
Speaker 4: in to Green Bay, y'all.
Speaker 5: Can't where y'all going, They go, right, you better have
Speaker 5: a nice house.
Speaker 4: So the activity of the players and the lifestyles of
Speaker 4: the players are totally different.
Speaker 2: They look forward to the off season.
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, and I think that helps
Speaker 4: them for eighteen eighteen weeks lock in.
Speaker 3: So I think that's one hundred percent right. And I
Speaker 3: think Fred brought up a good point.
Speaker 1: Like for me going to the bye, it was always
Speaker 1: the coach, hey man, protect the team, protect yourself. Remember,
Speaker 1: don't get in the car if you've been drinking, like
Speaker 1: kind of hitting that checklist of things like don't do that.
Speaker 3: And then I really felt like coming back it was
Speaker 3: the player. The players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you have team leaders like obviously
Speaker 1: London Fletcher was a big leader for us, but also
Speaker 1: I think Tanner brought up. May be the most important
Speaker 1: point of all those things is it's about the guys
Speaker 1: on the team. Are they self starters? Are they self motivated?
Speaker 1: Because that's the Those are the guys that you don't
Speaker 1: worry about coming back from the back because they knew
Speaker 1: how to handle their business in the bye. They're going
Speaker 1: to be focused, they want to win these last four games.
Speaker 1: And when you have a team of those types of guys,
Speaker 1: which kind of felt like twenty twelves team a little
Speaker 1: bit like just good dudes, love ball, motivated to come.
Speaker 3: Back, like didn't wait to come back off the back. Yeah,
Speaker 3: then you're gonna be all right, I guess is what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's I think I'm glad you brought
Speaker 1: that up, tenn because to me, that's the most important thing.
Speaker 1: And coming off this buy, we're getting ready for the
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. Yeah, and this team is interesting to
Speaker 1: say the least.
Speaker 3: The feist.
Speaker 2: They don't give up, but they beat up.
Speaker 3: They are beat up. And let's talk about that for
Speaker 3: one second because who that a quarterback from the right?
Speaker 3: Who who's gonna play? Quite literally, who are you right?
Speaker 1: So there's two guys Jake Haynter and Spencer Raler, and
Speaker 1: he just watched all of Hatter stuff because he's number
Speaker 1: one on the jump Shruck and he's only got like
Speaker 1: a couple like thirty attempts this year. Yeah, he got
Speaker 1: He does have a little bit of moxy to him,
Speaker 1: a little bit of competitive advantage. And the thing that
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about, Tanna, and I know you probably
Speaker 1: think about this too, is just because you don't know
Speaker 1: who he is doesn't mean he can't play.
Speaker 2: No, it's dangerous for a defensive player. Let me tell
Speaker 2: you something.
Speaker 4: When I see a guy, did I always tell people
Speaker 4: is they be like, are you scared of Randy Moss
Speaker 4: more than you're scared of the other? I said, I'm
Speaker 4: scared of the other dude because I've been studying Randy
Speaker 4: all week. This other dude, I don't got no notes
Speaker 4: on him. I got no notes on him. I don't
Speaker 4: know his strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: And he also shouldn't be afraid of me because he
Speaker 4: playing on house money almost And when you get a
Speaker 4: guy that ruins should not go what's my game playing
Speaker 4: against him? I have no game playing against him? And
Speaker 4: that becomes the problem in itself, and it.
Speaker 1: Is one start a couple of big time throws, light
Speaker 1: windows like stuff that you want to see from a
Speaker 1: veteran backup quarterback. Again, not the most talent to arm,
Speaker 1: but confident, trying to get the reason why. Yes, And
Speaker 1: I think again, like it's it's tough because I think
Speaker 1: about the Dallas Cowboy game, you know, and Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: We can get Cooper Rush, but if if we don't
Speaker 1: handle what we're supposed to handle, we don't score points offensively,
Speaker 1: we let them stay in a conservative game.
Speaker 2: PLO.
Speaker 1: They've Nott Alvin Kamara. Their offensive line's playing well. The
Speaker 1: Titans are playing where they can run the football. We
Speaker 1: can check down Charlie down the field.
Speaker 4: Their defense plays some ball too. Now they might give
Speaker 4: up points, but they play some ball. They got the
Speaker 4: honey Badger they got over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah you got linebacker Davis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah to Mario Davis. Player.
Speaker 1: But I think, like that's something you always talking about,
Speaker 1: is it doesn't matter who's out there. They're professional players
Speaker 1: and if the game hits right, you could lose the game.
Speaker 5: And that's why I'm always big on just handling your business.
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying, Like if you handling your business.
Speaker 5: We care less about the opponent. That was one of
Speaker 5: my logics to why I didn't watch film on the
Speaker 5: individual cornerbacks that I was up against, like I care.
Speaker 5: I used to watch the tape and did won't even
Speaker 5: look at the cone. I'm looking at the safeties. I'm
Speaker 5: looking at the whole defense. I care less of how
Speaker 5: that coner played. Because if I'm doing me and I'm
Speaker 5: reading coverages, then I don't have to worry about you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. You know what that guy can
Speaker 5: do well or not. And when you have a guy
Speaker 5: like Jake coming in here is Jake hater hater, You
Speaker 5: got a guy like this coming in here fresh, He's
Speaker 5: definitely playing with house money. I mean, whatever I do,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be. It's gonna give us a chance. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go out here and willing and I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do fearless. I'm gonna that's one of those guys. You
Speaker 5: gotta punch him in the mouth. Quit you make sure
Speaker 5: that story. You're gonna fight out it. Don't even think
Speaker 5: you coming in here with that. Yeah, boy, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And you're gonna be at his home,
Speaker 5: so you gonna be he gonna have those guys rallying
Speaker 5: behind him. They gonna get up for the game. But
Speaker 5: don't come out there. I know you're gonna get that
Speaker 5: one off.
Speaker 3: Get that one.
Speaker 7: They will call me out here, like where are they going?
Speaker 7: I'm thinking he was at the bar and I had
Speaker 7: a little drink in my hand. Don't come out that hairsteff,
Speaker 7: let me put that. Let me come out there wanting
Speaker 7: better at the context.
Speaker 5: Don't come out that half step and think just because
Speaker 5: of this guy that you didn't have that much film
Speaker 5: on here.
Speaker 2: He's gonna come on and lay down it said, he'll
Speaker 2: pro to.
Speaker 4: I always tell people that if they own this roster,
Speaker 4: they are parted at one percent. And I call it
Speaker 4: the Brian the Byron left Wich. All right, because we
Speaker 4: heard that story. Listen you wanna talk about learning and
Speaker 4: listen that day Listen, I started break dass little beers
Speaker 4: because they were carrying being Roethlisberg off thee, you know, being.
Speaker 2: Throwing that thing. And they got Wallace at this time,
Speaker 2: ab they got some guy. So I look at London
Speaker 2: and I'm like, thumbs up, I get.
Speaker 3: That we got this coach.
Speaker 4: We about the Dama Nate coaching everybody, So up tenty grade,
Speaker 4: we're seeing everybody.
Speaker 2: Left, which led us up for three hundred. He let
Speaker 2: us up for three hundred and ran us off the field.
Speaker 3: Blame you.
Speaker 2: Get up in the deepens of mean to.
Speaker 1: Say this was don't mean right here, my fault failas Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so again we don't take anybody for granted, nobody,
Speaker 1: but they are a little banged to bet receiver ye
Speaker 1: chrys olive may or may not play right. Their other
Speaker 1: kind of explosive weapon number twenty two. Every s he
Speaker 1: out right, he's been out And so one of the
Speaker 1: things about this offense is here when you watch them
Speaker 1: over the course of the season, they do find ways
Speaker 1: to get explosives.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so the guy for them is a guy that
Speaker 1: was on their practice squad to start there, Marquez Valdez
Speaker 1: Scanaling is in there kind of making explosive plays.
Speaker 3: But again, like when that's your main piece, it's probably
Speaker 3: not the best.
Speaker 4: He's more of a scratch the field guy and what
Speaker 4: he does, what he's doing, Yeah, And.
Speaker 3: They find ways to be explosive that way, So they're
Speaker 3: still dangerous.
Speaker 4: Ama Kamarra makes them dangerous. He is a one man,
Speaker 4: Rick and crew. We know what this guy could do.
Speaker 4: Come on, we to see this guy's go five six
Speaker 4: toeschdowns in the game, like he can break a gag
Speaker 4: wide opening.
Speaker 2: Going into that. Don't nobody, it's a great point. This
Speaker 2: is a a hard place to play.
Speaker 3: It's a far trip in New Orleans, and that's.
Speaker 2: A city that can eat up players. I keep telling
Speaker 2: people the city has something to speaking experience. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm just come on, you got your job because Richmond
Speaker 2: ate me up.
Speaker 3: New Orleans.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, So the city is
Speaker 2: a weapon. Also the twelfth Man. That what we call it,
Speaker 2: the twelfth Man. Think about this a.
Speaker 4: City like Las Vegas just got a hockey team three
Speaker 4: years ago. They've been in the championship two of the
Speaker 4: three years. You don't think Vegas is chewing some players
Speaker 4: up and spinning them out like Miami has always chewed
Speaker 4: players up and spit them out. And now you also
Speaker 4: moved two teams to l A. It's some places that
Speaker 4: will devour you the twelfth Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm really glad you brought up Alvin Kamorrow
Speaker 1: Fred because their offensive line is young, but they're big
Speaker 1: and they're pretty physical, like they kind of mashed on
Speaker 1: people a little bit. And one of the things that
Speaker 1: the commanders have had a hard time with is stop
Speaker 1: stopping the run consistently, right, And so obviously you can
Speaker 1: allocate more reces that resources there. Hopefully Marshawn Lattimore is playing,
Speaker 1: you play a little more manus put people down in there.
Speaker 1: And again that's not a one to one correler, but
Speaker 1: it is helpful. But if you the other thing I
Speaker 1: kind of think about too, is is if you can
Speaker 1: get up on this team and they can't run the football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you take the basically are out of the game.
Speaker 4: But they still throwing it to him like, they still
Speaker 4: throwing it out.
Speaker 3: But I would rather them.
Speaker 1: I would rather that version of this offense where and again,
Speaker 1: this to me is the sign of like not a
Speaker 1: very healthy offense. Your number one ball carrier is Alvin Kamara,
Speaker 1: which makes sense because he's just starting running back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Your number one receiver in terms of targets is who
Speaker 1: and yards. So again those are not really good indications
Speaker 1: of a healthy offense. I want to take him out
Speaker 1: of this game. Right, Let's get what's an Jake Hayner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, throwing the ball a time. Let's have him have
Speaker 3: fifty attempts.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a winning formula for the Commanders
Speaker 1: because even though I think he's in the one he's
Speaker 1: had this year, he played.
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, like he's still here's a backup for a reason.
Speaker 1: I mean, no go ahead, And so I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: maybe the most important element for us defensively is offensively
Speaker 1: scoring points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just getting the game floor one together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we have to get into a rhythm
Speaker 5: offensively out the gate. I think that's going to be,
Speaker 5: to me, the biggest challenge, but at the same time
Speaker 5: something that we can do because if we get to
Speaker 5: doing what we do best running the ball, you know,
Speaker 5: behind b Rob hitting some of our layups that we
Speaker 5: do and put points on the board. Now they come out,
Speaker 5: they're gonna press, They're gonna try to run the ball,
Speaker 5: because you don't want to put the ball in Jake
Speaker 5: hands out the gate and have him sitting back there
Speaker 5: Willy and Dilly in trying to throw the ball up
Speaker 5: and down the field. You want Kamara to be a
Speaker 5: heavy dose to Kamara. Their first fifteen script places Kamar
Speaker 5: probably getting ten touches. Yeah, even saying like he's he
Speaker 5: probably going to have that kind of a you know
Speaker 5: e runs and once we get up and show them
Speaker 5: that we a here to play on game with him
Speaker 5: and now they have to go out there and do
Speaker 5: something else. It should be one of those games where
Speaker 5: we say, as long as offensively we get to we
Speaker 5: get into a rhythm, move the ball, score not getting
Speaker 5: the reds on and you know, stud of go out
Speaker 5: there and put a touchdown instead of you know, field goals.
Speaker 5: We'll have him in our hands because now they're going
Speaker 5: to try to go out there and try.
Speaker 4: To you know, there's two reasons I feel good about
Speaker 4: Kamar with this with this group. I want to introduce
Speaker 4: him to Bobby Wagner and Frankie.
Speaker 3: I think formally formal introduction, just just.
Speaker 2: You know, hello.
Speaker 4: I want to induce myself right Dale to right Dale.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, those two guys give me.
Speaker 4: I feel good if you say he go the matchup.
Speaker 4: These linebackers get this guy.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: The one thing we know about the ount, he can
Speaker 2: run one of the fastest.
Speaker 1: Take over a game powerful this on Gosh, what's your
Speaker 1: Get loud podcasts about how he's got a reputation of
Speaker 1: having these games where he scores four times too.
Speaker 4: And he does it all differ away, like he's the
Speaker 4: first back I ever seen that's a slasher with.
Speaker 2: True power, Like this dude could could pull a car,
Speaker 2: like he is powerful. Half of the time he's not
Speaker 2: even running, he's just a gall skipping.
Speaker 5: He's setting up people and like, you know how the
Speaker 5: Burst set it down, Like yeah, you know how they
Speaker 5: have the little thing with the cats in Detroit Sonic
Speaker 5: and the other dude, so what, so what is Kamar?
Speaker 2: He's every bit of all, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He brings the power and he got the slash.
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. He's kind of in the same category.
Speaker 3: And people don't talking about.
Speaker 1: Yes and again and even Christian McCaffrey like those kind
Speaker 1: of true yeah facts.
Speaker 3: I mean he's still no one talks about him that way,
Speaker 3: but he is that guy.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I think the other three, even though King Henry is
Speaker 2: that dude.
Speaker 4: I just think Saquan McCaffrey and Camara has the true
Speaker 4: receiving point that Henry doesn't have, making them the most
Speaker 4: complete out of the three.
Speaker 2: And nobody talks about this.
Speaker 4: All three of them, guys pass block all three so
Speaker 4: they don't have to come out and if you'll see
Speaker 4: a lot of the Ravens taking King Henry out of
Speaker 4: certain situations with these guys still on the field.
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing too is when you
Speaker 1: watch the Giants game, the Giants knew that they want
Speaker 1: to run the football, they want Kamara to be involved,
Speaker 1: and they're getting, you know, to their jam front, so
Speaker 1: you know, three defensive taxles covering guard center.
Speaker 3: And so what does Joe what Junior do?
Speaker 1: Does he say, Hey, We're going to play our normal
Speaker 1: defense versus you guys say keep everything in front, limit
Speaker 1: the explosive play and let our offense kind of win
Speaker 1: this game for us. Or does he get in the
Speaker 1: heavier box structures which they've done at times this year
Speaker 1: versus Pittsburgh is when that comes to mind.
Speaker 3: But like what is the what is the solution to
Speaker 3: stopping the run? And like how do you walk that line?
Speaker 4: Because they have had a lot of success to show
Speaker 4: and these teams are kind of muddled together, Like think
Speaker 4: about it, we have a brain child here that we
Speaker 4: could pick with Marshaun Latama.
Speaker 2: He knows everybody on the roster.
Speaker 3: That's a great point all right, and.
Speaker 4: Guess what they have some of the similar things over
Speaker 4: there with chasing another some people over there that can
Speaker 4: leak information.
Speaker 2: Uh, this guy does this, well, they really like to
Speaker 2: do this. Tomoraw don't like this.
Speaker 4: So so we have some some some battling internal that
Speaker 4: you know, guys are going to give more information than
Speaker 4: you usually have on a person that's not a Division four.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But I think also what it's all gonna ball down
Speaker 5: to is just man like I say, we can we
Speaker 5: can put all that into context and say this is
Speaker 5: what we have, that's what they have.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't do what you gotta do.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: This is a team.
Speaker 5: This is one of those games where it can be
Speaker 5: on any out any other sports outlet.
Speaker 2: Saying this can be a trap. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because you're supposed to beat these guys.
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. You can't look at none
Speaker 5: of these trap All these are playoffs. Every game that
Speaker 5: you in after this by it's a playoff caliber game,
Speaker 5: whether the team is good or not. And think about it,
Speaker 5: everybody's gonna give you that best shot anyway regardless, You
Speaker 5: know what I mean. Your new kid on the brother there,
Speaker 5: four and nine, two and ten. You know what I mean,
Speaker 5: They're going to give you their best, So you got
Speaker 5: to go out there with that mentality.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And uh so, you know, we talked about the defense
Speaker 1: quite a bit there and what they have to do
Speaker 1: versus this Saints offense offensively. I think, again, this defense
Speaker 1: is good, they're not great. They're a little soft in
Speaker 1: the middle. I think we'll be able to run the football.
Speaker 1: And when this team, the Commanders can run the football
Speaker 1: to be, it's it's who it's who they want to be. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know so I think like that's something I'd keep
Speaker 1: an eye on. Is is b Rob effective early and often?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? How is the interior of this offensive line playing?
Speaker 1: Because quite frankly, their interior defensive line over the course
Speaker 1: of the season, they've got some good athletes have not
Speaker 1: played well in terms of stopping.
Speaker 5: The know, we got over there, I got there. Well,
Speaker 5: now we traded him, we got we gotta pick for.
Speaker 1: Big John John Ridgeway, we got which way. Just to
Speaker 1: give you some context, is so let me just say
Speaker 1: this PFF is not the end all, be all for grades. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they do not have a player on the interior defensive
Speaker 1: line who's grading above forty eight percent.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying pff.
Speaker 2: They're not always great, but that's a that's a Usually.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you're aiming with a broken sight.
Speaker 1: It gives you a pretty good MS. Tilson was going
Speaker 1: up and so Brazi.
Speaker 3: I watched his stuff.
Speaker 2: He he won that game.
Speaker 1: He's an athlete, but you his path level is terrible.
Speaker 1: And you can lean on that man and you can
Speaker 1: put him in the fetchers right well.
Speaker 4: Be honest is known to wind battles like that, to
Speaker 4: watch them doors are loose. Let them loose in New Orleans,
Speaker 4: and let's see, can we make them go to the
Speaker 4: grocery store.
Speaker 2: We acquire those bags and put them right back over
Speaker 2: their head. People don't remember the ants when people in
Speaker 2: the Saints used to wear the bag over their head.
Speaker 2: I remember, you grew up now. I grew up that
Speaker 2: most definitely.
Speaker 4: Plus I got uncles, this Saints fan, and he was
Speaker 4: like text me the other day, do I need to
Speaker 4: pull my bag out?
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, sir, that big cop, yeah, mercy man.
Speaker 1: And I forgot to say this at the top. So
Speaker 1: this is a bad job by me and master job
Speaker 1: bad job. We have a bake off coming up. Fred
Speaker 1: we do for Christmas and Zach Selby. It wasn't even
Speaker 1: really like a bake off. It was just like Fred one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: most definitely. And so now we've got in Turn not
Speaker 1: in Turn producer and her forget Loud. She's doing the
Speaker 1: show and she ding she beat you last time.
Speaker 2: We set it up for that to happen because we
Speaker 2: wanted somebody to get a victory.
Speaker 3: What did you guys make? I don't even remember. Maybe
Speaker 3: y'all made the was it lemon cake?
Speaker 2: Y'all made the other kind of cake?
Speaker 5: The cake that at and we talked about it other
Speaker 5: there as some particular steakhouse that.
Speaker 2: You like to go, Oh, buttercake? Did we do buttercake?
Speaker 2: Yeahdy and butter cake.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying she kind of she kind of took
Speaker 3: a beat you.
Speaker 2: I like to her, Oh that's fine.
Speaker 3: They ain't the first time somebody that took it to
Speaker 3: but what So we're doing a Christmas bakeoff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing a spree at this time.
Speaker 4: So we're doing like you could do a cookie, you
Speaker 4: can do a cake, you can do an extra dessert.
Speaker 2: So it's really like a platter.
Speaker 3: So it's like making multiple things.
Speaker 2: I'm making multiple things. You understand. The elf on the
Speaker 2: shelf is what I'm going by. The elf in the
Speaker 2: sheelf in the kitchen, that's where I be at.
Speaker 3: And you you were teasing. You were kind of like saying, hell,
Speaker 3: I'm going to bring out my my hey game, I'm
Speaker 3: going to bring out.
Speaker 2: What is that devil strawberry?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm bringing out these devil strawberries. Really, it's like
Speaker 4: it's it's like strawberries with like cheesecake feeling. So when
Speaker 4: I bring these things out to play, all right, these
Speaker 4: secret weapons I got and you know in my arsenal,
Speaker 4: I cannot wait for this bake off. I live for competition.
Speaker 4: I live for this, like my kids not live. They
Speaker 4: know when Christmas come, dadd is just extra extra. I
Speaker 4: like to make the I like to make the dessert taste.
Speaker 4: I like to make the dessert table look like overwhelming
Speaker 4: for a kid, like I want to make their senses
Speaker 4: and taste buds just go out.
Speaker 2: They don't. I like them to look at it and say, Dad,
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm finna eat. So I like
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: When this happens, this is just a little peel behind
Speaker 3: the veil. You say something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason has a comment, the microphone comes to his face.
Speaker 2: It's always happy. No, I'm not hating.
Speaker 8: I just wanted to say, Anna's snow push over.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're I mean, I'm not going to lose
Speaker 2: to a Colorado again.
Speaker 8: He lost the first time, So I'm just saying, this
Speaker 8: isn't a Zach Soelny situation.
Speaker 2: Hey, first of all, that ain't the first time I
Speaker 2: have lost. So you lose to come back and win
Speaker 2: my loss if you don't learn from it, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
Speaker 4: What I learned is I took up for granted the
Speaker 4: first time because I was like, she's a millennial, she
Speaker 4: can't cook.
Speaker 2: I took her lightly, all right.
Speaker 4: So now that I know that her family has taught
Speaker 4: her some bacon skills, now I would dust off the
Speaker 4: Book of Smooth and I would go on the tech.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm going to do for this holiday.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm really look forward to it because I'm the
Speaker 8: real winner here. So I'm I'm rooting for a good matchup.
Speaker 8: It's gonna be a heavyweight matchup. This is gonna be
Speaker 8: on our Christmas Day episode Christmas. Everybody is gonna be
Speaker 8: celebrating Christmas. But we're doing a podcast now. Listen, so
Speaker 8: when you're traveling or whatever, tune in here the Bakeoff.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be ash and peck and I got some
Speaker 4: stuff that you probably ain't never seen that I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Show people, Like what, don't you worry about it.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna give your heads up, but you can
Speaker 4: go tell you Anna, he's gonna go do it what
Speaker 4: I would say, like, you're going to tell her certain things.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna doing this.
Speaker 4: Fine, just because you try to mock it, you can't
Speaker 4: do it at the level, then I'm gonna do it
Speaker 4: all right.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do a little bit audible here. He
Speaker 1: just talked about food. Now we're gonna talk about a segment.
Speaker 1: We got risk It for the Biscuit and that's food
Speaker 1: Risk Marshall mclite. That was pretty close, I think, especially
Speaker 1: with I say your voice is not yes, you know agency,
Speaker 1: your partner in risk and People's strategies. What does that mean?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we are thankful that they're sponsoring
Speaker 1: this segment. And so let's talk playoff push from we got.
Speaker 3: I think this is the thing.
Speaker 4: Risk it a biscuit. They give me a biscuit, Now
Speaker 4: give me a biscuit. It's nothing for me to risk
Speaker 4: right there. I think we're rolling into the play need
Speaker 4: to win. I want to win all of them. I'm
Speaker 4: not wondering people that I like to do subtractions, taking
Speaker 4: one game at a time and try to win all
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 2: Control your own destiny.
Speaker 4: Like, the worst thing you can do is be a
Speaker 4: team at the customer of the playoffs and you need
Speaker 4: another team to lose. You don't want to put yourself
Speaker 4: right there. If we can't get no higher than the
Speaker 4: six seeds.
Speaker 2: So be it. But control what you can control.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I look at, you know, some of the opportunities
Speaker 5: that we have right now going forward and kind of
Speaker 5: put me back into the college football things that's been
Speaker 5: transpiring with all these teams that can control their own
Speaker 5: destiny and then they sitting there waiting till about what
Speaker 5: you know, I should be in the playoffs? Yeah, but no,
Speaker 5: all you have to do is win. Yeah, and if
Speaker 5: you're good enough to beat those teams and do that.
Speaker 5: So when it comes to what we have going for ourselves,
Speaker 5: that's all about it. One game at a time. Right now,
Speaker 5: the most important thing is us going iss, you get
Speaker 5: that one, taking care of me, move on to the
Speaker 5: next one. Playoffs is down the line. We know it's
Speaker 5: it's near, but we play play smel it, and I
Speaker 5: can taste it. At the same time, as a player,
Speaker 5: you always got up for those games going into the
Speaker 5: players because you knew if I don't handle these, I
Speaker 5: can't get there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And I think that's something that you guys,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate doing the show with you, is as
Speaker 1: former players, like, it's so important.
Speaker 3: Now it's a couple of things. One win the next one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's.
Speaker 1: Playoff football right now, right now, now, right now, there's
Speaker 1: no compromise in so I.
Speaker 3: Know everyone wants to talk about, Oh what about Philly?
Speaker 3: What about We don't care what about Dallas.
Speaker 1: You gotta win this one, yeah, right, And I think
Speaker 1: it probably takes two games to win this thing out,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But imagine how hot and
Speaker 1: how exciting this team would be if you hit this
Speaker 1: thing undefeated or on a three game winning street or whatever.
Speaker 2: And they just showed us they can do this.
Speaker 4: They showed us, they can screen together wins and you're
Speaker 4: talking about a team that, let's be honest, they have
Speaker 4: been looking to live tired. So that Bye week, get
Speaker 4: your reinvigorated, and you get to do what I think
Speaker 4: people don't really hold into account. You get to sit
Speaker 4: home and watch your peers for the first time this
Speaker 4: year and say, mmm, because we all have internal things
Speaker 4: going on with Tannel, I want more yours, diner receivil,
Speaker 4: I want more picks than these guys. So now I
Speaker 4: get to see him watch you with no bias now,
Speaker 4: and I think that clears your head as a playerf no.
Speaker 1: And I also think, like thinking back to when I
Speaker 1: was playing and when we were playing, one of the
Speaker 1: worst things was when you watch the team and the
Speaker 1: playoffs that you know, you knew you were better than.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the way incredibly frustrating.
Speaker 1: And so I think the awesome thing about this right
Speaker 1: now is you said this, right we control our own
Speaker 1: destiny and it's all there for us. We just got
Speaker 1: to handle what we got to handle and get this
Speaker 1: thing done.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So this is another question that I think is really
Speaker 1: interesting is should the team, should the coaches? Should we
Speaker 1: be more aggressive knowing that we're pushing for the playoff.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I don't think you need
Speaker 5: to go out and do something that you didn't do
Speaker 5: going into the you know world throughout the throughout our season.
Speaker 5: I think we haven't shown that we're gonna go out
Speaker 5: here and do something that's not us play the game
Speaker 5: that you know how to play, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, I think what we have going, what we have.
Speaker 5: Going offensively, defensively, and special teams wise, is you know,
Speaker 5: these guys playing unises. These guys go out there and
Speaker 5: we talk about complementar in football, Like, I don't need
Speaker 5: one side to go do something that's not that's going
Speaker 5: to be living up to the identity of how we
Speaker 5: played this game, you know up to this point.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. If you have a.
Speaker 5: Situation where you say fourth and one, this is on
Speaker 5: the line, we either going to kick this field go
Speaker 5: or take it, then that's up to them to decide.
Speaker 5: But I feel like you don't have to go out
Speaker 5: there and show something or be somebody that you're not.
Speaker 4: I think it's like when I'm on the highway and
Speaker 4: I see a dodge, I see a Tesla, because they
Speaker 4: always try to show you how fast they Kaye is right,
Speaker 4: I'm all gased. No break to all gas, no breaks
Speaker 4: right now, pedal to the middle, ain't no saving nothing.
Speaker 4: I want full speed ahead. I want you to be
Speaker 4: I want to play callers to be at the top
Speaker 4: of their game. I want my quarterback like you have
Speaker 4: grown through this season, my receivers. I want everybody crossing
Speaker 4: the t's dot in their eyes. Everything is up for
Speaker 4: grabs right now. It ain't nothing I'm holding back. The
Speaker 4: whole playbook is open. I'm full speed ahead, all gas,
Speaker 4: no breaks, Give me a biscuit.
Speaker 5: With that being said, dude, my question, I'm not saying
Speaker 5: you can be all I'm not saying we're not all
Speaker 5: gassed with playing how we've been playing. I'm just saying
Speaker 5: you don't want to put yourself in a situation where
Speaker 5: I'm doing something too much that's going to cost me
Speaker 5: to win instead of me just totally understand what the game.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, like I went back and
Speaker 1: for a project we're going to do for the Command
Speaker 1: Center show, like Jaden's progression is.
Speaker 3: Going to be on the show.
Speaker 1: That's for a video breakdown and one of the things
Speaker 1: is you go through all the plays and you see
Speaker 1: how aggressive they were versus Cincinnati and all these fourth
Speaker 1: down decisions earlier in the year. And one of the
Speaker 1: things is like, I'm not saying we need to get
Speaker 1: back to that, but use the bye week as an
Speaker 1: opportunity to say scout self, chock so self, Scott, and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, we could we can take advantage of
Speaker 1: this because of Jade and Daniels. Yea there, And again, like,
Speaker 1: our fourth down percentage is amazingly high this year. It's
Speaker 1: eighty six point six seven percent. We're tied for first
Speaker 1: the NFL with Buffalo and they got Josh Allen, Right,
Speaker 1: so can we weaponize that? Can we I'm not saying
Speaker 1: we go Dan Campbell where it's like we're going for
Speaker 1: every fourth down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, oh, we're going for it.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that, but let's like look at
Speaker 1: our list, look at our sheet, and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's be all gas in terms of our preparation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and when that moment comes up, no breaks, let's hit it.
Speaker 1: Let's go hit that thing out of the park. So
Speaker 1: I think that's one that's really easy. And then also
Speaker 1: I love what Fred said too, because it's that their
Speaker 1: situational aggressiveness. But as a play caller, like and it's
Speaker 1: you don't want to go sell the farm, but you
Speaker 1: want to make sure like hey, like were pushing the envelope.
Speaker 2: Here, ritting some things up. Yeah, I'm showing you this
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna give you this.
Speaker 5: I think too, you know, defensively, just from the stake
Speaker 5: of having a different cone out there that probably can
Speaker 5: do something different than what we had. We might see
Speaker 5: something different a little bit that's going to make us
Speaker 5: scratch ahead and say whether if this being is this
Speaker 5: being aggressive or not? Because I think when you have that,
Speaker 5: I can call a different game, a different game, different game,
Speaker 5: And so I.
Speaker 1: Think that's gonna Again. We're excited for the playoffs, can't
Speaker 1: wait to watch this team. But in the meantime, we
Speaker 1: got to take care of us and that's going to
Speaker 1: lead us.
Speaker 2: To hell yeah and hell hell no exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay, So in this game, the first one of our
Speaker 1: playoff push, Yeah, the defense does not allow more than
Speaker 1: twenty points.
Speaker 4: I guess yes, hell yeah, they don't. They don't allow
Speaker 4: them to score over twenty. I should I be saying,
Speaker 4: hell now, No, you're.
Speaker 3: Saying defenses does not allow more than twenty points.
Speaker 2: That would be a hell yes, hell yes they will.
Speaker 4: I just think with the quarterback situation and with the
Speaker 4: wide receiver a situation, let's just simplify who to stop
Speaker 4: winn and where. With our offense being very defensive, I
Speaker 4: will say, hell, yes, we can hold the Saints under
Speaker 4: twenty points.
Speaker 3: Heh yeah, hell yeah, he yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. So I totally agree.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because I think
Speaker 1: we're going to be able to run the football offensively,
Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to score a lot of points.
Speaker 3: We're going to put them in a bad spot.
Speaker 1: And like Fred said, they got a quarterback who I
Speaker 1: think has some ability, but they're banged abit receiver and
Speaker 1: they really want to be offensively what Kyle Shannon is.
Speaker 1: They want to run the ball early and open up plays,
Speaker 1: open up play action. But if you can kind of
Speaker 1: slow them down and force them to do a lot
Speaker 1: of drop back stuff, that ain't who they are. That
Speaker 1: ain't who they want to be. And so I think
Speaker 1: I think if if if the game flow goes according
Speaker 1: to play, they get support from the offense, I think
Speaker 1: they're not holding to ten. I think I think that's
Speaker 1: that kind of day for the defense. All Right, second one,
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin grives another touchdown.
Speaker 2: Hell yell, yes, cause we got your best ConA on
Speaker 2: our team.
Speaker 3: Listen to me.
Speaker 4: The guy that was gonna stop him, he's over the
Speaker 4: Ohio State mate. All right, people forget that these guys
Speaker 4: play the college. Yeah, so if anybody can, it's a
Speaker 4: guy that used to practice with you every day.
Speaker 2: But oh you gave him to us.
Speaker 4: So now your best chance to slow down Our best
Speaker 4: weapon is got on Berkeley and Gog Hell yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Gets you know when you know you know how this
Speaker 2: game is.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can put a cloud on a guy
Speaker 5: like Terry, but I think going forward much have done
Speaker 5: which is a teams have done that plenty of times.
Speaker 5: But going forward, if we want our best effort on offense,
Speaker 5: you have to go through seventeen.
Speaker 2: He's shown you time and time again.
Speaker 5: When our offense is hitting on that high note, like
Speaker 5: that that Whitney Houston high note.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: We're there's some kind of way seventeam is involved in
Speaker 5: our offense. I can stop the cloud by simply moving
Speaker 5: him into the slope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we know we haven't done a job of
Speaker 2: moving that time.
Speaker 3: They did last week.
Speaker 1: And Tanner brings him a great point versus Malik Neighbors
Speaker 1: last week.
Speaker 3: That's what they did.
Speaker 1: They clouded him run out corner and safe you have
Speaker 1: over top and that makes it tough to throw the
Speaker 1: ball over there.
Speaker 3: But if that does happen, that's Terry helping you out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Different, then it's too.
Speaker 4: Like I told, there's two ways to beat that cloud,
Speaker 4: and just move him inside and motion him across the
Speaker 4: formation and it really makes him have to.
Speaker 2: Talk or change his position taking you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We've done that and I'm not a smart man, but
Speaker 1: it's just a simple man. Yeah, and you know what
Speaker 1: happens when you play cloud coverage?
Speaker 3: Got less guys in the box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm running it.
Speaker 1: Let's saying, b rob Man, you got these defensive are
Speaker 1: good athletes, but they can't sit the run. Let's get
Speaker 1: you out of that cloud. Let's help Terry out. And
Speaker 1: when they do get out of the cloud, which they do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an explosive I.
Speaker 5: Honestly believe too, you know, and I know this is
Speaker 5: getting you know, off topic a little bit with fast
Speaker 5: with the fast surface and just knowing how their run
Speaker 5: stop is run defense is.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a nice day for be Robb.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put that out there.
Speaker 4: Well, I can see be robbing honey Badger having some
Speaker 4: collisions and yeah, but I got my money on be
Speaker 4: rob to finish.
Speaker 2: That honey bag ninety pounds. That what I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: But in the box, Yeah, but you don't want you
Speaker 2: don't want that.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they're gonna be able to cut
Speaker 1: through him like butter because they do have people. Warner,
Speaker 1: the guy from Ohio State linebacker good playing well in
Speaker 1: Damaro Davis and those.
Speaker 3: Guys have been doing it for decades. They've been bing.
Speaker 3: But I do I just feel, man, and if you
Speaker 3: can run the ball, it's gonna open up the whole offense.
Speaker 3: And I do think even if.
Speaker 1: Terry doesn't score, we saw last week how getting him
Speaker 1: involved in critical situations, thrown down, red zone, backed up situations,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be super productive and super.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw a loop. I'm gonna throw something at
Speaker 4: you right quick. I think it's time for McCaffrey to
Speaker 4: get his first touchdown. I think it happens in New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Wow, this is this is a friend, Fred Audible, this
Speaker 3: all I'm route.
Speaker 2: Run to your local casinos and put it all on
Speaker 2: the line. Risk Yeah, don't put the house on risk
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 3: I mean he was close. What was that against Allison?
Speaker 2: Stay getting closed? But see, I just think you know,
Speaker 2: we don't take but one play to get you really
Speaker 2: over it? That humph. And if they're going to pay
Speaker 2: as much attention.
Speaker 4: To Terry as they paid to elite neighbors, somebody's gonna
Speaker 4: sneak out there. It won't be know a Brown because
Speaker 4: everybody knows who know what Brown is Like, he's a
Speaker 4: part of their offense. But a guy like McCaffrey I
Speaker 4: can slip through there and make some plays.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna get his first touchdown,
Speaker 1: but I'm excited him. Ben soning the same thing. Kind
Speaker 1: of that, that that fourth element of the offense. It
Speaker 1: could be effective and productive. But don't forget about it.
Speaker 1: I got now ur he'd been killing it.
Speaker 3: Dude, I said the fourth elements, so we got terror.
Speaker 2: Said fourth film. In my bad, I didn't hear a
Speaker 2: fourth I'm not about the Yeah, I didn't hit a fourth.
Speaker 3: It's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like you got a cricket and they
Speaker 2: forget about it.
Speaker 3: This is it sounds like a cricket to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah kind of talking. You know, I go fishing a
Speaker 2: lot with creeks. I you ever, God damn move on.
Speaker 3: You want to do the want?
Speaker 2: I was not fishing on the bank that talking to him,
Speaker 2: Chris something that he does. So you about to sacrifice,
Speaker 2: so like you can't fish?
Speaker 3: He wanted, he wanted to go on a side question.
Speaker 3: You're done, is done?
Speaker 5: Let's get He's gonna be saying I need you when
Speaker 5: I go fishing, because you know when you talk horse
Speaker 5: the fish coming to the water.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you now, I'm such a good fisherman.
Speaker 4: When I walked past the water and the fish no
Speaker 4: one present, they just jump out the water commit suicide.
Speaker 2: I don't even bring a poem when I fish, I
Speaker 2: just bring them bucket. Oh god, this dude.
Speaker 1: There are things that for peeling the curtain back that
Speaker 1: Fred does rehearse ahead of time, like little bits sound.
Speaker 1: He's never rehearsed that. I've been around him, heard that before.
Speaker 1: It just comes out, and it's so surprising when it's
Speaker 1: original and new. It's just like you might who you
Speaker 1: heard someone told you that before.
Speaker 2: No, listen, my uncle said, you are blessed fish. I
Speaker 2: gotta go meet that uncle because I think a lot
Speaker 2: of the material.
Speaker 3: From that to the whole thing.
Speaker 2: My uncle was like meeting the gold fishing like, where's
Speaker 2: your pole?
Speaker 4: No, he's still here, and get what I don't need
Speaker 4: no pole, that's your uncle said, No, did what I say?
Speaker 2: My uncle got his pole? Came pole and is real?
Speaker 3: I bet you, I bet you uncle.
Speaker 2: No, I meet that uncle when I walk out there.
Speaker 4: It's like, listen, they understand that Todd Tom Sawyer, third
Speaker 4: cousin of Hunkerberry find here.
Speaker 2: Your materials is so old.
Speaker 5: I can bet it's somebody in your family that you
Speaker 5: just sat there and soaked up everything.
Speaker 2: He said. It came the character somebody gave you, gave
Speaker 2: you that that material. Man, you got too much juice.
Speaker 4: When they seem she in coming, they see hooking beer
Speaker 4: coming for fishing hooking beer.
Speaker 2: That's how young you are. You know you know who
Speaker 2: Tom saw you hooking? Beery fishing out?
Speaker 1: Man, Come on, dude, you chill out do you not
Speaker 1: know who these people are. Yes, there are literary people
Speaker 1: written in a novel by Mark Twain. Come on, chill out,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, but is he known for fishing?
Speaker 1: You need everything, baby, all right, before we get too
Speaker 1: far off.
Speaker 4: That I am Daniel Boone Award in the twenty three
Speaker 4: years in a wol Daniel Boone. Yeah, I'm wanted a
Speaker 4: Daniel Boone Award like I've won it consecutively thirty three years.
Speaker 2: Look, yeah, letting me know we will finish.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank you so much, friend, Tanna, than
Speaker 3: keep us on bringing it. Did do that? Did I
Speaker 3: do that?
Speaker 2: You brought up fishing.
Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for today's show. Thanks so much
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