WEBVTT - MNF Breakdown, NBA Preview with Noah Eagle

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz,

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<v Speaker 1>where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sports stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz.

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<v Speaker 3>Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Paps.

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<v Speaker 2>It's NBA season. We are in the hardwood section of

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<v Speaker 2>the DP Show.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we're calling it? The hardwood?

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<v Speaker 2>I call this the basketball portion of the man cave.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of my favorite parts. And you know what

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<v Speaker 2>that means, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>We're in the field house. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of stuff today. NBA, football, Monday Night Football.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, congratulations to the Tampa Rays. Not the

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<v Speaker 5>Devil Rays. Once they shed that name, all they did

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<v Speaker 5>was win. They're going to face the Brewers in the

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<v Speaker 5>World Series. Someone's going to win their first title. But

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<v Speaker 5>coming up later today... Our boy Noah Eagle in 15

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<v Speaker 5>minutes of NBC Sports to get us ready for the

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<v Speaker 5>entire NBA slate tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 2>The NBA is back today on NBC with a historic

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<v Speaker 2>triple header to tip off the new season. Celtics, Pistons

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<v Speaker 2>in the afternoon. Then defending champion Knicks raise a banner

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<v Speaker 2>and host LeBron in the Sixers. Then the Spurs host

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<v Speaker 2>OKC in what we're calling Game 8 of the Western

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<v Speaker 2>Conference Finals. Watch it live on NBC and Peacock. Ball,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you're a Philly guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember when LeBron went to Philly, you were texting

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<v Speaker 5>me like 18 times, all your crew.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you pumped the brakes? Are you more engaged?

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<v Speaker 2>More engaged for the very simple reason that the Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>have fallen apart. The Phillies are out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>The Flyers look terrible. So now we're all about LeBron.

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<v Speaker 2>Find that fountain of youth, baby.

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<v Speaker 4>No pressure on LeBron. All right, let's get to it.

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<v Speaker 5>Monday Night Football last night. We thought this would not

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<v Speaker 5>be a great game, and I'm not sure it was

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<v Speaker 5>a great game.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually, you and I said, watch out for the Commanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a little bit of a bounce back after that

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<v Speaker 2>nightmare ending of the Giants game. And they made it close.

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<v Speaker 2>It turned out to be a great game.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you turn that game off at halftime, let's

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<v Speaker 5>just say you turned it off. You'd be like, wow,

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<v Speaker 5>the Niners are cruising. The Commanders have nothing. They can't

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<v Speaker 5>figure anything out. But that comeback, was that based off

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<v Speaker 5>a real comeback? I don't think so. I think that

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<v Speaker 5>was where The Niners at halftime, they basically said, all right,

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<v Speaker 5>this is an easy one. Let's start easing into it.

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<v Speaker 5>like Usain Bolt pulling up at the 70-meter mark, and

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<v Speaker 5>they let the commanders sneak back in.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not. The Niners, like every other contender in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>has serious problems. You saw it. To me, the moment

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<v Speaker 2>I started to worry about the Diners is when Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Evans caught a ball over the middle, ran out to

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<v Speaker 2>the sideline, and had to stretch when he landed. That's

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<v Speaker 2>like me playing basketball right now, Paul, having to stretch mid-game.

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<v Speaker 5>He's wide receiver old. He didn't take a Zumba class

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<v Speaker 5>in the middle of the thing. He just tried to

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<v Speaker 5>play through an injury.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, but his... The second he went out of

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<v Speaker 2>the game, they fell apart offensively. That's why I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was a real comeback. They've become really reliant on

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Evans.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, but Brock Purdy played well. Christian McCaffrey played well.

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<v Speaker 4>Kittle.

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<v Speaker 5>The defense played pretty well until that third, fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that was one of those games where, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you're injured a little bit, but the commanders were a desperate,

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<v Speaker 5>clawing animal at the end, embarrassed from last week, and

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<v Speaker 5>they put up a good fight. I will say there

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<v Speaker 5>was a moment in the game, I think there's about

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<v Speaker 5>4.15 left. Commanders are driving down. Pinheiro of the Niners

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<v Speaker 5>misses that extra point. So it's only a six-point game.

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<v Speaker 5>And you're like, this is closer than it should be.

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<v Speaker 5>You even texted me like, this is way too close

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<v Speaker 5>of a game for forcing us to stay up.

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<v Speaker 4>But they had a touchdown run. The running back.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy McNichols.

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<v Speaker 5>McNichols, number 26. And an offensive penalty face-masked by their

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<v Speaker 5>offensive lineman took that back. Do the Niners lose that

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<v Speaker 5>game if that touchdown goes through?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, yes. I think they do because, again, the second

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Evans got hurt, the offense fell apart. And the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing, they had all these three and outs at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the game. What was a common ingredient

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<v Speaker 2>in every three and out? They were not handing the

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<v Speaker 2>ball to Christian McCaffrey. I don't know if they were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to save him or he was a little run

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<v Speaker 2>down or they just saw another advantage. Here's the problem

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<v Speaker 2>with the Niners. Brock Purdy, it might be the MVP

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<v Speaker 2>of the NFL. I will give you that. But he

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<v Speaker 2>cannot do it alone. He needs circumstances to be right.

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<v Speaker 2>He needs his receivers healthy. He needs that O-line to

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<v Speaker 2>keep everybody off him. And he needs Christian McCaffrey to

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<v Speaker 2>give him second and five. And that was not happening

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<v Speaker 2>later in the game.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think the Mike Evans thing is a real situation.

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<v Speaker 5>If he's not healthy for the rest of the season,

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<v Speaker 5>he's kind of had a career rebirth. But if you

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<v Speaker 5>look at that, Debo had a bit of a career rebirth.

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<v Speaker 5>But Pearsall being out for the season, that's a bigger hit.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's really on Mike Evans to stay healthy, or

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<v Speaker 5>they don't have a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the thing. There are so many Niners that

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<v Speaker 2>you need to stay healthy, and they are not staying healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Bosa's already hurt. Debo's out. They're an old team. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the Niners, if they're fully constituted, are incredibly talented. But, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>what makes you think that's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 5>They've earned some wiggle room by being 5-0. They can

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<v Speaker 5>afford to let a guy take a week off. They

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<v Speaker 5>can afford a loss here and there. But they built up, math-wise,

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<v Speaker 5>a playoff team.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no. It's mid-October. The season starts after Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>What difference does that make? I'll be dead serious. We

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<v Speaker 2>see this team right now at 6-0. Are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to see the same roster come January?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, maybe not the same roster, but there will

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<v Speaker 5>be a point in the season. Let's say you get

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<v Speaker 5>to week 16, week 17, where you can give some

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<v Speaker 5>guys a week off where you say, maybe we don't

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<v Speaker 5>get home field advantage. But we give Mike Evans a

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<v Speaker 5>week off here then. Nick Bosa eases back.

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<v Speaker 2>A little load management?

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I would load management because you're ahead of the

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<v Speaker 4>game on this season.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you're saying, but you're not that far

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of the game. And the season's so short. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care how much you load manage these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all in their 30s. Trent Williams is the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>guy there. And he somehow stays healthy at left tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kittle is coming off an ACL. There's just so

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<v Speaker 2>many issues right now. McCaffrey's not a young running back.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I had money on the Niners to win

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<v Speaker 2>it all, I would feel good because I didn't expect

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<v Speaker 2>them to be 6-0. But I would not double down

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<v Speaker 2>on that. I think they are right in the mix,

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<v Speaker 2>despite playing better than everyone else. I mean, honestly, look

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<v Speaker 2>at the final score. This is a commander's team that

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<v Speaker 2>lost Terry McLaurin halfway through. I don't even know who

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<v Speaker 2>they're playing a running back. Jaden Daniels and Dan Quinn

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<v Speaker 2>are still having procedural problems. This is not a great

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<v Speaker 2>commander's team, and it was in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get to the commander's side of this.

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<v Speaker 5>The commander's last week had that embarrassing loss versus the

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<v Speaker 5>New York Giants in his time management, clock management. And

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<v Speaker 5>in first half, it happened again. Jaden Daniels, who was

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<v Speaker 5>a fourth down and two, he's rolling right. He throws

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<v Speaker 5>it out of bounds. You're like, why wouldn't he give

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<v Speaker 5>it to his guy to make a play, one of

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<v Speaker 5>his crew to make a play? And it felt like

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<v Speaker 5>same old commanders. We said on this show that the

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<v Speaker 5>commanders don't, you know, if they could put, here's the play,

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<v Speaker 5>fourth and two, rolling right, flag down, but you don't

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<v Speaker 5>give anyone a chance to make a play, we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to suppose that you don't know what's going on. It's

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<v Speaker 5>fourth and two, whatever it may be. But if you're

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<v Speaker 5>the commanders, you needed a statement win tonight to get

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<v Speaker 5>everybody off your back. Did they do enough in the

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<v Speaker 5>second half to cool the criticism of their franchise as

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<v Speaker 5>a whole?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and no. I mean, listen, they were competitive. They

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<v Speaker 2>play hard for Dan Quinn. But that fourth down play, there's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of tentacles. Actually, Dan Quinn talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it after the game and tried to explain why

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<v Speaker 2>he was caught on camera mouthing down. That was fourth down,

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<v Speaker 2>but he at least said there was a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I definitely knew it was fourth down. We were

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<v Speaker 3>going for it.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think what you're referring to, I was probably saying, like,

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<v Speaker 6>with the illegal shift, there's not a penalty to go

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<v Speaker 6>for a field goal. Like it doesn't go like it's

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<v Speaker 6>the turn on downs. Like I think somebody asked me,

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<v Speaker 6>can we kick a field goal?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's interesting. There was an illegal shift. That was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had the same thought. I'm like, does that

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<v Speaker 2>play count? Because it almost felt like it was a non-play.

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<v Speaker 5>I almost threw the BS flag there. And Dan Quinn,

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<v Speaker 5>I think he was a lot of people have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought he was trying to confuse us with semantics

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<v Speaker 5>there in his explanation. I don't think he would admit it.

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<v Speaker 5>If he didn't know his fourth down, I wouldn't, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure that the lip readers out there seem

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<v Speaker 5>to think he said it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the, He said, basically, they said, are they going

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<v Speaker 2>to replay the down because there's a pre-snap penalty? He said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fourth down, so we're out of luck. The truth

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<v Speaker 2>is they should have kicked the field goal because they

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<v Speaker 2>had no play on that fourth and basically two. They

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<v Speaker 2>were kind of aggressive on fourth down. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it made sense. They almost felt in the first half

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<v Speaker 2>like desperate. We need to get back in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they start running ball in the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Dan Quinn personally, but I don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>recovers from that. Do you expect him to be the

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<v Speaker 2>coach next year?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I think if it was the play at halftime,

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<v Speaker 5>if halftime was the game and it went on to

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<v Speaker 5>be a complete blowout, he may have been fired this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 5>We were talking about that in the DP show. If

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to pull the Band-Aid, pull the Band-Aid.

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<v Speaker 2>For who, though? They have two very young coordinators.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, you're just announcing that the job's open first. You're

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<v Speaker 5>just letting the world know that this job is open first.

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<v Speaker 5>You were embarrassed on national TV. Some owners do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at the owner of the Colts the other day.

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<v Speaker 5>She fired her GM because she got embarrassed on national TV.

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<v Speaker 3>And that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But Josh Harris was talking to Dan Quinn before the game.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, he's smart. He doesn't have any assistant

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<v Speaker 2>who can possibly take over in the wildest dreams. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's one thing. but they respect Dan Quinn. They did

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<v Speaker 2>get to the NFL game. I have a feeling symbolically

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<v Speaker 2>they would have given him the season, but they're not

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<v Speaker 2>a good team and they're injured too. So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going anywhere positive.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's get to not so fast helmet stickers off last

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<v Speaker 5>night's game.

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<v Speaker 4>Pearl, you're going first. Who gets the helmet sticker?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going with Mike Evans just about how impactful he was.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he got hurt, but he had three catches

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<v Speaker 2>for 94 yards. He was the key to the game.

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<v Speaker 2>When he went out, the Niners forgot how to play

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<v Speaker 2>offense and He's just so good, and he's perfect for

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<v Speaker 2>Brock Purdy because Brock Purdy likes guys who are big targets. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>anything within five yards of Mike Evans, he is catching.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they give him a week off against Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>if they're smart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they have a bye because he's got Achilles tendonitis,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want that to be anything worse.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, my helmet sticker goes to 49ers safety. Malik Mustafa,

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<v Speaker 5>back-to-back plays late in the game. He drilled the running back.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait till you see this play.

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<v Speaker 4>There he is. He's from Wake Forest. He's a heck

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<v Speaker 4>of a hitter. I'm going to give you my comp

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<v Speaker 4>on this guy, but first of all, he just drills

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<v Speaker 4>the running back on this play.

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<v Speaker 2>Bingo.

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<v Speaker 5>Unbelievable hit. That looked like Steve Atwater back in the day.

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<v Speaker 5>Shoulder to shoulder. And then the next play, they're trying

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<v Speaker 5>to make a, this could have been a touchdown. This

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<v Speaker 5>could have been the game. He hit and poked the

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<v Speaker 5>ball simultaneously, knocked him out of bounds. No go, saved

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<v Speaker 5>a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was great.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's my comp on him?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, who do you got?

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<v Speaker 5>Bob Sanders. Remember the safety from the Colts back in

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<v Speaker 5>the day? He has a Bob Sanders vibe to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were going to go Cam Chancellor.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that big. I don't think he's that big.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a little bigger than Bobby Sanders, but one thing

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<v Speaker 2>about the Niners, they hit with their helmet every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single time. Fred Warner, they famously picked up a call,

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<v Speaker 2>picked up a flag when it was clear helmet-to-helmet, then

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<v Speaker 2>made a make-up call. The next play he came out

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<v Speaker 2>and helmet-to-helmeted somebody. I wonder how the NFL is going

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<v Speaker 2>to view that because I think there's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>four or five fines coming out of that. The Niners

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to say we're going to hit on every

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<v Speaker 2>single play illegally and dare them.

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<v Speaker 3>To call it.

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<v Speaker 4>And Greenlaw is usually the leader of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Warner was using his helmet all game long.

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<v Speaker 2>Mustafa also uses his helmet, but I don't really want

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<v Speaker 2>to yuck their yums after a big win last night. Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, coming up next, not so fast. I totally

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<v Speaker 2>tear into the AP poll. I have major, major issues.

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<v Speaker 2>And Paul weighs in again on Steve Young. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to want to hear this. Not so fast. Every week

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<v Speaker 2>on Not So Fast, we do the Pub and Grub

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<v Speaker 2>of the Week. This week, the big game, Ohio State

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<v Speaker 2>and Indiana. Paul, you're a Midwestern guy. What do you got?

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<v Speaker 4>Bloomington, Indiana. Been there a bunch. We got a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of recommendations. I have a few of my own. Everyone

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<v Speaker 4>knows Nick's English Hut. When you're there, get the Stromboli Pearl.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a big Stromboli guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the day. I love Stromboli.

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<v Speaker 4>Upstairs Pub.

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<v Speaker 5>Check that out before and during and after the game.

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<v Speaker 5>Crazy Horse, I'm told, has a huge beer selection. Here's

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<v Speaker 5>the bonus tip from Not So Fast. Pork tenderloin sandwiches

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<v Speaker 5>in Central Indiana are They're huge. They're like manhole coverings.

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<v Speaker 5>They're gigantic.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a place down 446 south of town, The Cabin.

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<v Speaker 4>Go to The Cabin to get the best pork tenderloin sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 4>It's debatable. Find out.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait. Help me grow the week.

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<v Speaker 5>Back on Not So Fast, Paxton Perloff, NBC Sports. That's

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<v Speaker 5>Junior Caminero gone, as Dan Patrick would say back in

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<v Speaker 5>the day. He's going to take his time getting around

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<v Speaker 5>the base path.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's no hurry.

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<v Speaker 5>He has no curfew. That looked like a scene out

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<v Speaker 5>of a movie. He's beating his chest, playing with the crowd.

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<v Speaker 5>He didn't win the World Series here.

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<v Speaker 4>Did he, on this hit?

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he won the World Series. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>long trot.

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<v Speaker 2>But, you know, the rule is if you criticize MLB

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<v Speaker 2>players for celebrating or taking too long, then you sound old.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, because you're a hater.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an old fogey. You're a hater.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The bat flip is now perfectly acceptable. The fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the higher the bat flip, the better.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're not telling Junior Caminero what to do. What

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<v Speaker 5>do you think Senior Caminero would think of that play?

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<v Speaker 4>He's probably old school, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that the celebrating is too much personally,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not saying that out loud. I said it

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<v Speaker 2>right now, but I don't really want to be the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who's criticizing players.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd be more like the fist pump guy, probably like

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<v Speaker 5>a calm fist pump.

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<v Speaker 4>But, you know, beating the chest, you can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I'm a Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders guy. Hand the

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<v Speaker 2>ball to the official. Really? Run around the bases like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course I hit a home run. That's what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to celebrate. It's not even celebrating. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just what I do.

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<v Speaker 4>What about pointing to the big man? You think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>You do it quick. I mean, if you are an

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<v Speaker 2>authentic religious person, yes. But, you know, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>see your whole body of work in regards to your

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<v Speaker 2>spirituality before I say whether or not you can point

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<v Speaker 2>to the big man.

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<v Speaker 4>Pauly Palfs was an altar boy. We'll get into that later.

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<v Speaker 4>It's time for warm takes here on Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go first, Pearl. Nice and warm. Getting you ready

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<v Speaker 4>for October. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>The New York Knicks are getting their rings and their

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<v Speaker 5>banner tonight, something I think a lot of people didn't

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<v Speaker 5>think they were going to see. Nobody had them going

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<v Speaker 5>to the NBA Finals last year. The Milwaukee Brewers are

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<v Speaker 5>this close to their first title. They're a feel-good story.

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<v Speaker 5>The Indiana Hoosiers last year, everybody knows they won the title.

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<v Speaker 5>They're the feel-good story of all time in college football.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's a little refreshing these days that the

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<v Speaker 5>favorites in sports aren't winning. The Rams are in a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of a jam.

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<v Speaker 4>The L.A.

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<v Speaker 5>Dodgers didn't win. In the NFL, who knows who's the favorite,

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<v Speaker 5>but baseball, it's usually Yankees, Dodgers. In the NBA, it's

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<v Speaker 5>certain teams, even like Oklahoma City, even though they can

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<v Speaker 5>be feel-good-ish because it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A small market, but it's refreshing. Look at the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 5>You think they can't be a feel-good story because they're

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<v Speaker 5>a huge market? Well, they've been struggling for like 50 years.

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<v Speaker 5>They've been good here and there, but they never got

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<v Speaker 5>over the hump. And they were kind of a likable

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<v Speaker 5>team last year, hardworking, not star-laden. Jalen Brunson supposedly took

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<v Speaker 5>less to help out the team.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a feel-good story.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not sure the reasons this is happening. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to defer to you, Perloff.

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<v Speaker 4>But in college football, you can say NIL. The money

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<v Speaker 4>is spread around. Parody, talent.

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<v Speaker 5>In the NBA, it doesn't feel like teams are being

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<v Speaker 5>built as superpowers anymore, like dream teams, three-man teams, the

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<v Speaker 5>big three type thing. And in baseball, it feels like

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<v Speaker 5>it's a bit of analytics. And the Brewers analytics team

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<v Speaker 5>seems to be winning it for their team because they're

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<v Speaker 5>not winning it by spending.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think this is... It's good for sports to

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<v Speaker 4>have dynasties.

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<v Speaker 5>It's good to have heavyweights like the Golden State Warriors

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever it may be. But it's also refreshing to

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<v Speaker 5>have some teams like the Dodgers, or not the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 5>but the Knicks in there, the Indiana Hoosiers in there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's refreshing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of weird, though, to say a New York team.

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<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what you mean. They were likable, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't really feel like the same thing as the

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana Hoosiers.

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<v Speaker 5>No, not historically, but the Knicks have struggled for so long.

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<v Speaker 5>When they got there, you're like, I can't believe this team.

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<v Speaker 5>Not a team with LeBron James or Kevin Durant or

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<v Speaker 5>some superstar like Giannis is going to get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think you mentioned the Seahawks. I didn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 5>The Seahawks, nobody had them before the season. They dominated

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<v Speaker 5>the whole season, and they did it with not a

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<v Speaker 5>superstar quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. I agree. I think Anna Lakes is one

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<v Speaker 2>place to start. I think the way the financial structure

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<v Speaker 2>of leagues and taxes has a lot to do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll see what baseball does to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers this summer. I mean this winter. Hopefully we will

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<v Speaker 2>have baseball next year. Okay, I'm going to turn to

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<v Speaker 2>college football for my first warm take. Paul, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a blanket statement here. I hate the A people.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always hated AP poll. Why they're doing a pre-season

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<v Speaker 2>AP poll when it's a bunch of 18 to 22

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<v Speaker 2>year olds who are on new teams and they have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea who's good or not. And then basically they

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<v Speaker 2>perpetuate the same mistakes throughout the whole season. Now, my

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<v Speaker 2>biggest issue, Miami number one and BYU number two, is

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<v Speaker 2>that neither of them have really played anyone. I know

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<v Speaker 2>BYU beat Notre Dame, and that's why they're number two.

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<v Speaker 2>But why is Miami number one, Paul? Let me list

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<v Speaker 2>you their wins. Go ahead. They beat Stanford. Academically, that's tough. Football,

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<v Speaker 2>not so much. Florida A &amp; M, that's tough on

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<v Speaker 2>the band front, but not on the field. Now, they

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<v Speaker 2>won at Wake Forest. At the time, we had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea Wake Forest was good. So I'll give them some

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<v Speaker 2>credit for that. But that's their one ranked win. Then

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<v Speaker 2>Central Michigan, Clemson, who's terrible. Then they went to double

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<v Speaker 2>overtime against Florida State, who's not good, and that vaults

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<v Speaker 2>them up to number one. I think the poll always

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<v Speaker 2>overrates records and never looks at the quality of wins.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't care who Texas beat. That's irrelevant. They have

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<v Speaker 2>two losses. So if you look at the top 10,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really much more about avoiding a loss and actually

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<v Speaker 2>beating a good team, which encourages the team to have

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<v Speaker 2>bad scheduling and Oregon will play Portland State instead of

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<v Speaker 2>a real team. All right, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to speak for the AP poll. I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to be AP Paul right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Call me AP Paul. Here's my thing.

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<v Speaker 5>If I was the AP poll and heard your take,

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<v Speaker 5>my response would be, shh, don't tell anybody that we

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<v Speaker 5>don't mean anything, that half the time the people voting

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<v Speaker 5>don't really watch all the games.

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<v Speaker 2>The AP poll is only 65 people.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, but what I'm saying is that the AP poll

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<v Speaker 5>serves one service, for the networks to alert you that

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<v Speaker 5>there's a 1 versus 7 matchup, a 2 versus 8 matchup,

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<v Speaker 5>They want to do this in September. If all of

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<v Speaker 5>a sudden I turn on the TV and I see,

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<v Speaker 5>coming up later today on September 8th is the 2

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<v Speaker 5>seed versus the 5th seed, you know, the 5th ranked team,

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<v Speaker 5>that makes you more likely to lean in and tune

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<v Speaker 5>into that game. They will never get rid of the

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<v Speaker 5>preseason poll, and the networks will never let it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, that makes no sense. It makes a lot of sense. Because,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, if AP said we're not doing a poll,

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<v Speaker 2>then the networks would just use another poll. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the Associated Press. This is the journalism outlet of record.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think AP is the way to serve. Somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>going to do a poll. So it doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 2>it's AP or someone else. AP is pretty informed.

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<v Speaker 4>The AP makes money off this. They get paid to

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<v Speaker 4>do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but so why don't they do it the right way?

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't they do it based on who you beat? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many obvious biases. And then they play out.

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<v Speaker 2>You think they're not important, but then they eventually are

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<v Speaker 2>used in the actual CFP selection committee. No, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that making Miami number one just makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it could be very lazy by AP voters

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<v Speaker 4>by saying, like, They always go with undefeated. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>they always will defer to undefeated.

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<v Speaker 5>Because it's simple and unchallengeable by the average fan.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it makes a huge mess come November when

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to pick the 12-team playoff. It always does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which is good, but it just drives me crazy. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't buy your take that they're doing it just

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<v Speaker 2>for clicks. Because why do the networks do it?

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<v Speaker 4>No, not for clicks.

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<v Speaker 5>It's for networks to promote the upcoming weekend games of.

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<v Speaker 4>like a battle of a two versus a four.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, who's paying the AP to do a poll? You

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<v Speaker 2>think the newspapers are paying AP to have a top

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<v Speaker 2>25 poll? I don't think that it works. You're actually

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<v Speaker 2>ruining it for me by saying that I'm a sucker

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<v Speaker 2>to corporate greed here. You don't think CBS is like, hey, AP,

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<v Speaker 2>here's $ 30, 000. Let's put Ole Miss at number seven.

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<v Speaker 5>I love your response there. It's time for my next

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<v Speaker 5>warm take. Let's calm it down a little bit in here.

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<v Speaker 5>Steve Young has had a hell of a week. The

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<v Speaker 5>other day, he's at the sidelines for BYU when his

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<v Speaker 5>BYU squad beat Notre Dame. Last night, he's at Monday

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<v Speaker 5>Night Football. There was a Ring of Honor thing, and

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<v Speaker 5>there he is with Joe Montana. What a great week

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<v Speaker 5>to be Steve Young. And everyone knows Steve Young.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a Hall of Famer. He's a first ballot Hall

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<v Speaker 4>of Famer.

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<v Speaker 5>But his path to get there, to be a first

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<v Speaker 5>ballot Hall of Famer at quarterback, is the weirdest path

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<v Speaker 5>of all time, right? He was drafted into the USFL out.

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<v Speaker 4>Of College of BYU. So he goes to the BYU,

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<v Speaker 4>he goes to USFL.

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<v Speaker 5>You get no credit for USFL when you're being voted

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<v Speaker 5>for for the Hall of Fame. So that delayed his

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<v Speaker 5>NFL career two years. Then he goes to play for

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<v Speaker 5>the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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<v Speaker 4>They stunk.

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<v Speaker 5>He wasn't much better. They were 3-16 in his two

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<v Speaker 5>years with the Buccaneers. That made his career even worse.

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<v Speaker 5>That means he's in the hole for his career. Then

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<v Speaker 5>he goes to, at age 26, the San Francisco 49ers.

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<v Speaker 5>He sits, barely playing, behind Joe Montana for five seasons.

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<v Speaker 5>That means from age 21... Until age 31, he had

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<v Speaker 5>done nothing positive in his NFL career to get into

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<v Speaker 5>the Hall of Fame. He'd actually made it worse. He

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't called a bust, but he was like this, what

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<v Speaker 5>are we doing with this guy? He's on ice in

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<v Speaker 5>San Francisco. Joe Montana gets hurt. They move on from

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Montana. And at age 31, he takes over the

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<v Speaker 5>San Francisco 49ers. Over the next seven seasons, he's an all-pro,

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<v Speaker 5>not pro bowler, all-pro six times. Led the NFL in

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<v Speaker 5>touchdown passes four times. Led the NFL in completion percentage

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<v Speaker 5>five times. a Super Bowl MVP, and during that time,

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<v Speaker 5>during those eight seasons, he ran for 3,600 yards at quarterback,

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<v Speaker 5>one of the best of all time running the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy is a first ballot Hall of Famer while

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<v Speaker 5>doing nothing in his 20s.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll never see anything like that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Wild.

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<v Speaker 4>Stay with me, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tell people why you're talking about Steve Young.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I'm fascinated by Steve Young.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, also, too, because he affected the outcome of the

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<v Speaker 2>BYU game.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, because he ran on the field first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why you were thinking about Steve Young.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been thinking a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's one of the more underrated athletes, not

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<v Speaker 5>just quarterbacks, in American history. Because when we talk about

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<v Speaker 5>the greatest quarterbacks of all time, His name rarely gets

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<v Speaker 5>brought up because he didn't have the 15-year, he had

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<v Speaker 5>the 9-year career.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, I'm not saying he's a system quarterback, but it

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<v Speaker 2>helped being with Bill Walsh.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course it helped being with Bill Walsh, but he

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<v Speaker 4>maxed out that system.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of an analogy.

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<v Speaker 4>Kurt Warner? Yeah, the start was great, the end was great,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's a wonky career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I'm just saying Kurt Warner got started super late.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't really think of anybody else.

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<v Speaker 4>Warren Moon, maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Warren Moon because he's sort of blackballed from the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>Warren Moon would.

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<v Speaker 5>Be the only comp of a guy who started maybe

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<v Speaker 5>after age 28 and did all his work.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Karl Warren might have been 28. Yeah, could be. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great one. I totally agree. All right, back

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<v Speaker 2>to basketball. Tonight, they're going to raise the banner at

0:21:48.050 --> 0:21:50.670
<v Speaker 2>Madison Square Garden. You're obviously going to get my guy,

0:21:50.690 --> 0:21:55.300
<v Speaker 2>Timothy Chalamet, Ben Siller, Michael Imperioli, Nurse Jackie. Go down

0:21:55.340 --> 0:21:58.679
<v Speaker 2>the list. Enjoy it, New York fans, because this is it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think anyone really cares. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is the most one and done championship I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 2>In the sense that. The Knicks fans are like, we're good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine. You know, it's been over 30 years. Actually, 1973. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost 50 years. It had been forever. Now they're absolutely satisfied.

0:22:17.660 --> 0:22:20.770
<v Speaker 2>The team played in the late June. They're already older.

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<v Speaker 2>There's already an issue with Karl-Anthony Towns' contract. They lost

0:22:24.770 --> 0:22:27.270
<v Speaker 2>Mitchell Robinson. There are so many reasons, I think, that...

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think a lot of people are picking the

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<v Speaker 2>Knicks to repeat, and I don't think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>fans really care. The party is still going on from

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<v Speaker 2>last summer. Knicks fans are completely satisfied. Felt like a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It probably will be a movie. In fact, You have

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<v Speaker 2>the Ben Stiller documentary, and there'll be a fictional movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great. But I don't think anybody needs any more,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think they're getting any more, Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think if you're a 40 or over New York

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<v Speaker 5>Knicks fan, you say, that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's watch some NBA. Let's watch our team. But I'm

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<v Speaker 5>probably not getting another one, and I have to be

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<v Speaker 5>cool with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. You know, we have some crazy Knicks fans in

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<v Speaker 2>the office. Let me ask you a question. If they lose,

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<v Speaker 2>even tonight, game one against the Sixers on NBC, do

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<v Speaker 2>you think they're already going to be a little bitter,

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<v Speaker 2>be like, ah, man, we should be better right now?

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<v Speaker 4>It's all about the age of the person.

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<v Speaker 5>The Knicks fan in the back room you're talking about

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<v Speaker 5>is about 28 years old, 27 years old. And he

0:23:17.060 --> 0:23:19.649
<v Speaker 5>still thinks, this is how life is. You get a

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<v Speaker 5>title every 20 years. You maybe get one in five years.

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<v Speaker 5>Or maybe we go back to back. As a Cub fan,

0:23:25.300 --> 0:23:28.020
<v Speaker 5>in 2017, sure I wanted the Cubs to win the

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<v Speaker 5>World Series on repeat. But it's like, hey, you won

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<v Speaker 5>the lottery last week. You're still playing the lottery.

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<v Speaker 4>You only get one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also, nobody repeats in the NBA anyway. And

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<v Speaker 2>if anybody's going to repeat, you would have thought the

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<v Speaker 2>OKC from last year or maybe the Nuggets with Joker

0:23:42.820 --> 0:23:45.699
<v Speaker 2>or maybe the Celtics. Those teams all seem very poised

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<v Speaker 2>to repeat. Not this team.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Coming up next, we're going to get you all prepped

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<v Speaker 5>for the NBA season with our boy, Noah Eagle of

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<v Speaker 5>NBC Sports.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to hang with us. Right here. Stick around.

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<v Speaker 4>Not so fast. That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to be at the garden, though. That

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<v Speaker 2>being said, tonight would be exciting.

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<v Speaker 4>Noah could probably get us in. Make some calls.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Not So Fast. Perloff and Paps, NBC

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Now and Peacock. And as we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>all show, we are so fired up. NBA is starting,

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<v Speaker 2>of course. The voice of NBA on NBC, Noah Eagle,

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<v Speaker 2>is joining us from San Antonio, 9.30 p.m. Eastern tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thunder at Spurs. Noah, how exciting is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's the best. It's the best.

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<v Speaker 7>We've got three incredible games, certainly throughout the day on

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<v Speaker 7>NBC and Peacock. But our last game here in San Antonio,

0:24:38.109 --> 0:24:40.030
<v Speaker 7>we feel, has a chance to be arguably the best

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<v Speaker 7>on the court. When you've got the Spurs and the Thunder,

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<v Speaker 7>we're calling it Game 8 of the Western Conference Finals.

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<v Speaker 7>It feels like it. You feel the hate walking around

0:24:47.690 --> 0:24:50.030
<v Speaker 7>the town right now. So, yeah, it should be a

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<v Speaker 7>ton of fun.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to start with Wemby. You've seen him in

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<v Speaker 5>person multiple times overseas here. I haven't seen him play

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<v Speaker 5>in person. And I'm curious, the physicality of him when

0:24:59.150 --> 0:25:01.590
<v Speaker 5>you're watching from your vantage point right next to the court,

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<v Speaker 5>how can you describe it to the casual fan?

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost impossible to describe.

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<v Speaker 7>I say that there are only a couple guys who,

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<v Speaker 7>no matter what the price of admission is, they are

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<v Speaker 7>worth paying. I've said that Steph Curry, even just his

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<v Speaker 7>warm-ups and everything that he does, that has always been

0:25:16.990 --> 0:25:20.070
<v Speaker 7>worth whatever the price of admission is. LeBron James, certainly

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<v Speaker 7>in his prime, that was special and unique when he

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<v Speaker 7>was early in his Cleveland days and then Miami and

0:25:25.830 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 7>back in his second stint in Cleveland. I've said Nikola

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<v Speaker 7>Jokic probably has to be on that list. If you

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<v Speaker 7>see him up close, it's so much different than when

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<v Speaker 7>you watch it on TV, and it's special on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>But this guy's at the top of that list.

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<v Speaker 7>He probably trumps all those other ones because when you

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<v Speaker 7>see it, especially when you're close to the court, it

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't look real.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say let's start there.

0:25:45.910 --> 0:25:48.489
<v Speaker 7>It looks like it would be an AI type of

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<v Speaker 7>thing that you just find online.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll send this to my buddies because it's funny. It's not.

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<v Speaker 7>It's serious. And this guy is as serious as it gets.

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<v Speaker 7>He's as competitive as it gets. You feel that competition.

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<v Speaker 7>You feel that vigor towards his opponents emanating through him

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<v Speaker 7>when you're up close with him. And then the movements

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<v Speaker 7>and the athletic ability, I've never seen anything like it.

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<v Speaker 7>The hope is that he can stay healthy for 15

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<v Speaker 7>years and do this at this high level for 15

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<v Speaker 7>years because NBA fans are treated on a nightly basis.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't really understand how the Spurs are built.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they experimented with a three-guard lineup this summer.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they seem very small and wimpy, kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's 7'5. He's going to handle everything inside. I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of worry that he has to do too much because

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<v Speaker 2>he's surrounded by four guards.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what I'll say.

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<v Speaker 7>If there's one guy who can do it, though, it's

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<v Speaker 7>this guy. Watch games that the San Antonio Spurs play defensively.

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<v Speaker 7>Even last season when they had more length out there

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<v Speaker 7>and really the length that they were putting out there

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't anything crazy or different than what they're going to

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:57.340
<v Speaker 7>you know Dylan Harper's he's fairly long Stefan Castle is

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<v Speaker 7>multiple defensively De'Aaron Fox would be one of the the

0:27:00.460 --> 0:27:03.939
<v Speaker 7>smaller aspects of that defense and then Devin Vassell is

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 7>is a physical presence himself but they were putting out

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<v Speaker 7>Julian Champagny last year well he might not be a

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<v Speaker 7>one or a two he's probably a two or three

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<v Speaker 7>And so he's kind of in that same vein. So

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think they lost that much size realistically going

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<v Speaker 7>to the three-guard lineup. But Victor Wimbonyama is such a

0:27:20.590 --> 0:27:25.150
<v Speaker 7>deterring force that when people drive, they see him even

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<v Speaker 7>out of the corner of their eye and they retreat.

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<v Speaker 7>They stop going towards the basket. So I think no

0:27:30.580 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 7>matter who you put out there, as long as he's

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<v Speaker 7>the base and the anchor of that defense, it's kind

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<v Speaker 7>of irrelevant.

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.020
<v Speaker 5>So Noah, we do a thing here on Not So

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 5>Fast and even on the Dan Patrick Show. We have

0:27:38.900 --> 0:27:40.860
<v Speaker 5>a stat we'd love for you to work in. You're

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.330
<v Speaker 5>big time now. It's called Shots.

0:27:43.130 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 4>Discouraged, SD.

0:27:44.090 --> 0:27:47.470
<v Speaker 5>Because Wemba Nyama gets people to bail on a layup,

0:27:47.490 --> 0:27:49.570
<v Speaker 5>and they just dribble through and give it off to someone.

0:27:49.850 --> 0:27:52.010
<v Speaker 5>So if sometime during the season, maybe not tonight, you

0:27:52.030 --> 0:27:54.669
<v Speaker 5>could work in SD, Shots Discouraged, we'd appreciate it.

0:27:54.670 --> 0:27:54.930
<v Speaker 3>SD.

0:27:54.950 --> 0:27:57.010
<v Speaker 5>You don't have to answer now. We understand a lot

0:27:57.030 --> 0:27:58.730
<v Speaker 5>of pressure. I want to get to the East a

0:27:58.750 --> 0:28:01.590
<v Speaker 5>little bit. Jalen Brown goes to the Sixers. LeBron goes

0:28:01.609 --> 0:28:05.500
<v Speaker 5>to the Sixers. It feels like a rebirth of Northeast basketball.

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.699
<v Speaker 5>The Knicks are more than relevant. They won the title.

0:28:07.740 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 5>The Celtics are always good. It's a great time to

0:28:10.020 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 5>be a Northeast NBA fan.

0:28:12.190 --> 0:28:13.389
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely.

0:28:13.730 --> 0:28:15.810
<v Speaker 7>I think those three teams that you mentioned all feel

0:28:15.830 --> 0:28:17.430
<v Speaker 7>like they're going to be in the thick of things.

0:28:17.470 --> 0:28:20.830
<v Speaker 7>Certainly the Knicks essentially running it back with the roster

0:28:20.850 --> 0:28:23.410
<v Speaker 7>that they had last year, adding Andre Drummond to replace

0:28:23.830 --> 0:28:26.790
<v Speaker 7>Mitchell Robinson, who goes to Boston and feels like he's

0:28:26.810 --> 0:28:30.450
<v Speaker 7>a great fit for Joe Mizzoula, just from a personality standpoint.

0:28:30.510 --> 0:28:33.389
<v Speaker 7>Maybe not necessarily in terms of three-point shooting and what

0:28:33.410 --> 0:28:35.510
<v Speaker 7>we've seen from Mizzoula teams and the way they like

0:28:35.530 --> 0:28:38.950
<v Speaker 7>to play offensively, but I think mentality-wise, he and Mizzoula

0:28:38.970 --> 0:28:40.770
<v Speaker 7>are going to click. I think that team's going to

0:28:40.790 --> 0:28:43.500
<v Speaker 7>be really good. It's a really good at minimum regular

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:46.580
<v Speaker 7>season team, a team that easily could end up the

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.959
<v Speaker 7>top team in the Eastern conference, which is a loaded

0:28:49.420 --> 0:28:51.580
<v Speaker 7>Eastern conference this year when it's all said and done.

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 7>And Philadelphia feels like the scariest playoff team, right? I'm

0:28:55.700 --> 0:28:58.310
<v Speaker 7>curious how it looks for the regular season, but so

0:28:58.350 --> 0:29:00.110
<v Speaker 7>long as they're on the dance floor and you've got

0:29:00.150 --> 0:29:02.690
<v Speaker 7>to play them seven games and they are fully healthy,

0:29:03.130 --> 0:29:05.310
<v Speaker 7>they are going to be a scary out for any

0:29:05.390 --> 0:29:08.570
<v Speaker 7>team in the Eastern conference this I'm certainly partial to

0:29:08.590 --> 0:29:10.260
<v Speaker 7>the Brooklyn Nets. They're going to be a lot better too.

0:29:10.670 --> 0:29:12.940
<v Speaker 7>That's the thing in just the Northeast. If you want

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 7>to consider the Wizards kind of in that realm as well,

0:29:16.140 --> 0:29:17.700
<v Speaker 7>they're going to be a ton better. I think they're

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.660
<v Speaker 7>going to be a ton of fun this year. The

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 7>fun thing about the Eastern Conference, I feel like there's

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.460
<v Speaker 7>15 teams in the conference. 14 of them feel like

0:29:25.510 --> 0:29:27.890
<v Speaker 7>they are going to be postseason teams this year.

0:29:28.630 --> 0:29:29.890
<v Speaker 3>Internally, I should say.

0:29:29.950 --> 0:29:32.810
<v Speaker 7>Internally, they believe going into the year, we're going to

0:29:32.830 --> 0:29:35.170
<v Speaker 7>be a playoff team. I'd say Milwaukee's the one team

0:29:35.210 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 7>that probably going into the season doesn't have the expectation

0:29:39.260 --> 0:29:42.459
<v Speaker 7>they're in that retool, rebuild mode. But Brooklyn thinks, hey,

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 7>we're going to be at minimum a play-in team, top

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 7>10 in the Eastern Conference with Julius Randle and Michael

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:52.350
<v Speaker 7>Porter Jr., high-level scorers, high-level ball handlers now with Yegor

0:29:52.370 --> 0:29:57.170
<v Speaker 7>Domen and Mikel Brown, Chicago Bulls. Much improved. They're going

0:29:57.190 --> 0:29:59.990
<v Speaker 7>to be Norman Powell, an all-star last year. Caleb Wilson

0:30:00.270 --> 0:30:02.350
<v Speaker 7>has a chance to be the best player from this draft.

0:30:02.590 --> 0:30:05.690
<v Speaker 7>His ceiling is probably the highest. You add pieces to

0:30:05.730 --> 0:30:08.540
<v Speaker 7>all these other teams that weren't necessarily contenders last year.

0:30:08.820 --> 0:30:10.220
<v Speaker 3>I think that's what makes it the most fun.

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.900
<v Speaker 7>But all those teams you mentioned, they expect to be

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 7>at the top, which is exciting for NBA fans to

0:30:15.500 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 7>watch exactly how it plays out.

0:30:16.980 --> 0:30:19.260
<v Speaker 2>No doubt. I know you might have already answered this

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.780
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, but we're doing our surprise teams later

0:30:21.820 --> 0:30:24.820
<v Speaker 2>in the show. Give me an out-of-nowhere team that could

0:30:24.860 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 2>even be a contender. A little sleeper.

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.350
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think that the teams that picked one and

0:30:29.380 --> 0:30:32.650
<v Speaker 7>two in the draft, both Washington and Utah, I would

0:30:32.690 --> 0:30:34.650
<v Speaker 7>expect them to be fully in the thick of things.

0:30:35.050 --> 0:30:37.210
<v Speaker 7>I mentioned Chicago. I think Chicago is the type of

0:30:37.230 --> 0:30:39.250
<v Speaker 7>team that's going to get off to a really quick start.

0:30:39.650 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 7>And the question will be, can they sustain all of

0:30:42.580 --> 0:30:45.700
<v Speaker 7>that through the season? I just think Caleb Wilson is amazing.

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 7>and is going to be one of the best players

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.620
<v Speaker 7>in the league. Again, staying healthy over time is going

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.290
<v Speaker 7>to be the key. But Nick Claxton's a good addition there.

0:30:54.410 --> 0:30:57.410
<v Speaker 7>Norman Powell, Josh Giddey is probably better than people give

0:30:57.450 --> 0:31:00.230
<v Speaker 7>him credit for. Modest Buzella, same type of deal. That

0:31:00.250 --> 0:31:03.350
<v Speaker 7>starting five is intriguing. And Tiago Splitter, I think, is

0:31:03.390 --> 0:31:05.750
<v Speaker 7>an excellent head coach. But the two teams that picked

0:31:05.790 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 7>at the top of the draft, Washington, top six seed

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.540
<v Speaker 7>to me in the Eastern Conference, if everything comes together

0:31:11.580 --> 0:31:12.979
<v Speaker 7>the right way, which I expect it to.

0:31:13.450 --> 0:31:15.390
<v Speaker 3>And Utah, I think, is going to be legitimately good.

0:31:15.710 --> 0:31:19.770
<v Speaker 7>I just think that Darren Peterson is NBA-ready, NBA mentality.

0:31:19.830 --> 0:31:23.540
<v Speaker 7>Lowry Marketing is a legitimate all-star. Keontae George just got

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:28.620
<v Speaker 7>his extension, rightfully so. He's deserved that. Jaron Jackson Jr.,

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 7>former Defensive Player of the Year, a guy who can

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:34.479
<v Speaker 7>go out there and spread the floor. He's multiple offensively.

0:31:34.540 --> 0:31:37.650
<v Speaker 7>He's certainly a beast defensively. The one concern for them

0:31:37.710 --> 0:31:37.990
<v Speaker 7>is going.

0:31:37.910 --> 0:31:38.630
<v Speaker 3>To be rebounding.

0:31:38.670 --> 0:31:40.980
<v Speaker 7>But Will Hardy, their head coach, I think, is finally

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 7>going to get to show just how impressive he is

0:31:43.300 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 7>because he hasn't had the rosters or the direction yet

0:31:46.660 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 7>that he can go out there and really flex his muscles.

0:31:49.030 --> 0:31:50.450
<v Speaker 7>There are a lot of people that thought he'd be

0:31:50.470 --> 0:31:53.230
<v Speaker 7>the next head coach for the Boston Celtics. There are

0:31:53.250 --> 0:31:54.690
<v Speaker 7>a lot of people thought he'd be the next head

0:31:54.730 --> 0:31:57.650
<v Speaker 7>coach for the San Antonio Spurs when Greg Popovich retired.

0:31:57.670 --> 0:32:00.820
<v Speaker 7>He ends up in Utah. He stays on a contract

0:32:00.860 --> 0:32:03.740
<v Speaker 7>extension in Utah. I think he's going to showcase himself

0:32:03.780 --> 0:32:05.820
<v Speaker 7>a lot this year, which is going to put them

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 7>in a good position long term.

0:32:07.450 --> 0:32:09.430
<v Speaker 2>All right, Noah, I know you just came from L.A.

0:32:09.910 --> 0:32:12.270
<v Speaker 2>If you're a Los Angeles sports fan, where do you

0:32:12.330 --> 0:32:16.210
<v Speaker 2>look for hope right now? Because the Dream Team Rams

0:32:16.230 --> 0:32:19.100
<v Speaker 2>are more of a nightmare right now. I don't know

0:32:19.140 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>what the vibe is out there, but if I'm a

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 2>young fan and I need to invest in one team

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 2>to do well, who do I got?

0:32:25.740 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's look at USC. Come on, on NBC.

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:29.020
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.650
<v Speaker 3>For the next two weeks. Yeah, it's a legitimate question.

0:32:33.070 --> 0:32:36.390
<v Speaker 7>UCLA would actually be probably the correct answer. UCLA football

0:32:36.410 --> 0:32:39.050
<v Speaker 7>team right now. undefeated top 10 in the country, and

0:32:39.090 --> 0:32:41.670
<v Speaker 7>Bob Chesney is special. And they have a chance, if

0:32:41.690 --> 0:32:43.250
<v Speaker 7>you look at their schedule, to get to the end

0:32:43.270 --> 0:32:46.390
<v Speaker 7>of the season in that final week against USC without

0:32:46.430 --> 0:32:50.390
<v Speaker 7>a loss. That would be unbelievable. They would be a shoe-in, essentially,

0:32:50.430 --> 0:32:53.850
<v Speaker 7>for the playoff. It's Kurt Cignetti 2.0 all over again.

0:32:54.330 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 7>But in terms of the professional teams, I still do

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 7>have belief in the Rams. I know that Devontae Adams,

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 7>that was unfortunate news, and that does change things a

0:33:02.500 --> 0:33:05.620
<v Speaker 7>little bit offensively. I think Pukunuku is still working himself

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.580
<v Speaker 7>back as well. The Kyron Williams stuff was interesting after

0:33:08.620 --> 0:33:11.180
<v Speaker 7>the game the other day. But you made the move

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.420
<v Speaker 7>to acquire Miles Garrett, expecting you were going to have

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 7>Miles Garrett defensively. And they just haven't. I was there

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.900
<v Speaker 7>in Australia. Even the one game he played, he was

0:33:18.980 --> 0:33:22.060
<v Speaker 7>not anywhere close to himself. It was so obvious. He

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 7>never made a single impactful rush. There was never a

0:33:26.380 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 7>play where I'm like, oh, there was Miles Garrett in

0:33:28.180 --> 0:33:30.740
<v Speaker 7>the backfield. So at some point, he's going to be

0:33:30.790 --> 0:33:33.190
<v Speaker 7>back there. And at some point, Trent McDuffie is going

0:33:33.210 --> 0:33:35.170
<v Speaker 7>to be back. And at some point, this defense is

0:33:35.210 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 7>going to be whole. And you feel like the defense

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.260
<v Speaker 7>gets whole. That's a really challenging unit for offenses to

0:33:41.300 --> 0:33:43.479
<v Speaker 7>go up against. And then the second part of that is,

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 7>even without Devontae Adams, the genius of Sean McVay that

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 7>is now permeated through the rest of the NFL was

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.930
<v Speaker 7>in the 13 personnel stuff, what they've been capable of

0:33:51.990 --> 0:33:54.690
<v Speaker 7>doing with their three tight end looks. They also took

0:33:54.750 --> 0:33:56.750
<v Speaker 7>Max Claire in the second round, and they believe in

0:33:56.790 --> 0:34:00.150
<v Speaker 7>this kid moving forward. At some point, one of these

0:34:00.210 --> 0:34:03.770
<v Speaker 7>tight ends will emerge as the next threat. whether it

0:34:03.850 --> 0:34:06.950
<v Speaker 7>is Terrence Ferguson back on the field becoming the receiving threat,

0:34:07.250 --> 0:34:10.589
<v Speaker 7>Max Clare turning into what they expected him to, or

0:34:10.630 --> 0:34:13.950
<v Speaker 7>the other guys who have just been steady presence, Tyler Higby,

0:34:13.989 --> 0:34:17.370
<v Speaker 7>a Parkinson, Davis Allen, all of those guys do different things.

0:34:17.790 --> 0:34:19.740
<v Speaker 7>So I still kind of would put my hope into

0:34:19.780 --> 0:34:22.299
<v Speaker 7>that if I were an LA sports fan, but it

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.500
<v Speaker 7>is definitely a challenging time, which by the way, I

0:34:25.219 --> 0:34:25.510
<v Speaker 7>get it.

0:34:25.860 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 3>They've had a lot of success recently.

0:34:27.460 --> 0:34:31.380
<v Speaker 7>So maybe, maybe it's just the, the, the scales evening

0:34:31.460 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 7>out a little bit.

0:34:31.980 --> 0:34:33.420
<v Speaker 5>All right, Noah, you got to get ready for work.

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 5>We're going to get you out of here in one minute.

0:34:34.820 --> 0:34:38.030
<v Speaker 5>I want to go back to the Olympics, France versus USA,

0:34:38.170 --> 0:34:42.110
<v Speaker 5>you and Dwayne Wade. Everyone knows the golden dagger final call.

0:34:42.550 --> 0:34:44.509
<v Speaker 5>My favorite call was a different one. I think it

0:34:44.550 --> 0:34:47.330
<v Speaker 5>was the play before the shot before by Steph Curry.

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 5>When he hit it, you just went out and yelled ridiculous.

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:52.060
<v Speaker 4>It's great.

0:34:52.140 --> 0:34:55.300
<v Speaker 5>I love that call Noah, because it's exactly what everybody

0:34:55.340 --> 0:34:55.980
<v Speaker 5>was thinking in my head.

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.219
<v Speaker 4>I was like, that is a ridiculous shot. You don't

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.779
<v Speaker 4>even try that. And you just go, Ridiculous! Sometimes when

0:35:01.820 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 4>you throw that out, do you have to watch back

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:05.219
<v Speaker 4>later to remember what you said?

0:35:06.540 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 7>That one I think was unique because, to your point,

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.129
<v Speaker 7>it was almost like I blacked out a.

0:35:12.070 --> 0:35:13.690
<v Speaker 3>Little bit during that entire stretch.

0:35:13.989 --> 0:35:17.469
<v Speaker 7>The thing is with Steph, I was so lucky because

0:35:17.489 --> 0:35:21.110
<v Speaker 7>I did the Clippers on radio for four years. And

0:35:21.150 --> 0:35:22.910
<v Speaker 7>when you're in the Pacific Division, you get to see

0:35:22.950 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 7>Steph Curry four times a year if he's healthy. But

0:35:25.380 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 7>you see the Warriors four times a year, potentially in

0:35:28.020 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 7>the playoffs as well. And so I had enough experience

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.700
<v Speaker 7>with Steph Curry to know that all.

0:35:33.620 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Bigger shots still coming.

0:35:35.580 --> 0:35:38.739
<v Speaker 7>I just had seen too many of those Steph Curry avalanches.

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 7>I was like, I can't go all in yet. And

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.180
<v Speaker 7>so at that point, I just think I just going

0:35:43.260 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 7>off whatever I was feeling to your point that that's

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 7>how I felt at that exact moment.

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 3>And I just let it rip. So.

0:35:48.810 --> 0:35:50.770
<v Speaker 7>I don't think I recognized it probably to your point

0:35:50.790 --> 0:35:53.300
<v Speaker 7>until afterward, but most of the time I'm pretty aware

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:53.899
<v Speaker 7>of what I'm saying.

0:35:53.980 --> 0:35:58.020
<v Speaker 2>Love the call, bud. Thanks, Noah. Tonight, 9.30 Eastern, Thunder

0:35:58.060 --> 0:36:00.620
<v Speaker 2>at Spurs. Can't wait. Enjoy the beginning of the season.

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:01.379
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you soon.

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.529
<v Speaker 7>Appreciate it, guys. Always great to be on with you.

0:36:04.570 --> 0:36:05.730
<v Speaker 7>And again, congrats on the show.

0:36:05.770 --> 0:36:06.250
<v Speaker 3>It's been great.

0:36:06.450 --> 0:36:07.509
<v Speaker 2>Thanks, buddy. That's fun.

0:36:07.770 --> 0:36:08.970
<v Speaker 4>Great to have Noah on the show.

0:36:09.230 --> 0:36:11.129
<v Speaker 5>But I wanted to go back to that because he

0:36:11.190 --> 0:36:14.030
<v Speaker 5>has now a little bit of announcer immortality. That Steph

0:36:14.090 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 5>Curry last five, six shots. against France in the gold

0:36:17.420 --> 0:36:19.450
<v Speaker 5>medal game. I'll remember that the rest of my life.

0:36:19.489 --> 0:36:22.730
<v Speaker 5>And to get to call that, that gives you broadcaster immortality.

0:36:22.950 --> 0:36:26.669
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's great. Olympics will do that. I mean, yes. Yeah.

0:36:26.790 --> 0:36:29.370
<v Speaker 2>And also he's just incredibly talented. Him and his dad,

0:36:29.489 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 2>a huge, huge fan. All right. I'm also very fired

0:36:32.460 --> 0:36:34.620
<v Speaker 2>up for NBA. We're going to get into some more NBA.

0:36:34.980 --> 0:36:37.900
<v Speaker 2>And we have interesting comments from Louis Riddick on the

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.620
<v Speaker 2>DP show that I think will start a very interesting conversation.

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 2>That's next. Not so fast.

0:36:43.530 --> 0:36:45.569
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I remember watching that, and the ball goes in,

0:36:45.670 --> 0:36:48.950
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, he goes, ridiculous. And I was like,

0:36:48.989 --> 0:36:50.790
<v Speaker 4>that's the word. That's the word I wanted to yell out.

0:36:51.410 --> 0:36:52.050
<v Speaker 3>That was great.

0:36:58.230 --> 0:36:58.530
<v Speaker 2>C.J.

0:36:58.590 --> 0:37:01.100
<v Speaker 3>Stroud, Caleb Williams.

0:37:02.100 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Don't do this, Dan. Don't do this to me.

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 8>You know when I do this, there's always the people

0:37:06.820 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 8>who go.

0:37:07.060 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 3>You hate my guy.

0:37:08.020 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 2>You love my guy.

0:37:08.780 --> 0:37:09.739
<v Speaker 3>You hate my guy.

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:14.660
<v Speaker 2>I hate that crap. Come on. Your network does this

0:37:14.780 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>every single day, Lois. I know, and I.

0:37:16.780 --> 0:37:17.900
<v Speaker 8>Hate that too.

0:37:18.450 --> 0:37:19.830
<v Speaker 2>I hate when I get put in that position.

0:37:20.450 --> 0:37:23.730
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, you're right. That's what we do. I like C.J.

0:37:23.810 --> 0:37:28.130
<v Speaker 8>Stroud's demeanor. I like how people react around him. And

0:37:28.170 --> 0:37:30.469
<v Speaker 8>I trust D'Amico so much. And when he talks about

0:37:30.510 --> 0:37:34.109
<v Speaker 8>this kid, he loves him. And I just think that

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 8>those intangible things are the things that lead to a

0:37:37.660 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 8>guy being able to have 10, 15, 20-year careers. And

0:37:41.540 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 8>I think CJ could be one of those guys, and

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.819
<v Speaker 8>he is on it right now. It's not as dramatic

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.500
<v Speaker 8>as all the stuff that Caleb could do, and I

0:37:48.540 --> 0:37:50.879
<v Speaker 8>think that's what, and I love that about him.

0:37:50.900 --> 0:37:55.180
<v Speaker 3>I would pick CJ.

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.930
<v Speaker 5>That is CJ Stroud versus Caleb Williams, Louis Riddick. One

0:37:59.950 --> 0:38:02.009
<v Speaker 5>of my favorite parts about having Louis Riddick on the

0:38:02.030 --> 0:38:04.529
<v Speaker 5>show is Dan asks him questions. He doesn't know what's coming,

0:38:05.230 --> 0:38:08.790
<v Speaker 5>and Louis grinds on them. And we hit Louis right

0:38:08.830 --> 0:38:11.170
<v Speaker 5>at the end with, who would you rather have going forward?

0:38:11.540 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 5>Caleb Williams of the Bears, C.J. Stroud of the Texans.

0:38:15.020 --> 0:38:17.410
<v Speaker 5>And he paused for like eight seconds like he needed

0:38:17.450 --> 0:38:19.549
<v Speaker 5>time to work this one out. What would your answer

0:38:19.570 --> 0:38:20.190
<v Speaker 5>be to this question?

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.610
<v Speaker 2>I would, oh man, it's hard. I would lean Caleb Williams.

0:38:23.730 --> 0:38:26.290
<v Speaker 2>I do worry about Caleb Williams. He's at his best

0:38:26.310 --> 0:38:28.049
<v Speaker 2>when he moves around a lot and he could be

0:38:28.090 --> 0:38:31.230
<v Speaker 2>injury prone. I'm so impressed by C.J. Stroud this year.

0:38:31.270 --> 0:38:33.069
<v Speaker 2>I agree with what Riddick said earlier in the show,

0:38:33.130 --> 0:38:36.870
<v Speaker 2>pay him whatever he wants. But I think I would still,

0:38:37.290 --> 0:38:39.589
<v Speaker 2>ah man, I would lean Caleb, but I think it's

0:38:39.650 --> 0:38:41.810
<v Speaker 2>actually closer than you might have thought coming into the season.

0:38:41.870 --> 0:38:43.469
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that's a good point because if we

0:38:43.570 --> 0:38:46.469
<v Speaker 5>asked this question six weeks ago, C.J. Stroud still had

0:38:46.489 --> 0:38:48.950
<v Speaker 5>the stink of last year's playoff game on him, and

0:38:48.989 --> 0:38:50.930
<v Speaker 5>people would have been like, that's not even a topic.

0:38:51.190 --> 0:38:53.610
<v Speaker 5>And Caleb was rolling in the offseason because he had

0:38:53.650 --> 0:38:55.210
<v Speaker 5>such a good finish to last year.

0:38:55.570 --> 0:38:59.710
<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely. The funny thing is the Texans are not winning. C.J. Stroud,

0:38:59.930 --> 0:39:01.660
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're winning a couple games now.

0:39:01.670 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 4>They're in the mix.

0:39:02.610 --> 0:39:05.029
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea how good Caleb Williams is. I

0:39:05.070 --> 0:39:06.770
<v Speaker 2>really don't. I don't know what his legacy is going

0:39:06.790 --> 0:39:09.029
<v Speaker 2>to be. There still has not been a Chicago Bears

0:39:09.050 --> 0:39:11.110
<v Speaker 2>passer to get 4,000 yards, and I've got to be honest,

0:39:11.270 --> 0:39:12.729
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Caleb's going to be that guy.

0:39:12.770 --> 0:39:14.070
<v Speaker 4>He's not going to get it this year. We're missing

0:39:14.090 --> 0:39:14.569
<v Speaker 4>a couple games.

0:39:15.090 --> 0:39:17.720
<v Speaker 2>And even when they scored 59 points in week one

0:39:17.980 --> 0:39:20.860
<v Speaker 2>against Carolina, it's not like he's putting them 350 yards.

0:39:20.900 --> 0:39:24.460
<v Speaker 2>They are a run first, run second team. So this

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.170
<v Speaker 2>is very interesting. I mean, I think if we put

0:39:26.210 --> 0:39:28.969
<v Speaker 2>a poll out, 80% would say Caleb, but I love

0:39:29.050 --> 0:39:30.740
<v Speaker 2>Riddick's enthusiasm. for C.J. Stroud.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 5>All right, coming up, oh, Grant Hill also on the

0:39:33.739 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 5>Dan Patch show today of NBC Sports talking about the

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:39.540
<v Speaker 5>NBC season coming up. Now, Perloff, he may agree with

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:41.379
<v Speaker 5>you about the Knicks that it might be one and done.

0:39:41.420 --> 0:39:42.950
<v Speaker 5>Here's what Grant Hill had to say about the East.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the East is much, much more challenging. I mean,

0:39:46.980 --> 0:39:49.060
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be a tough, a tough road.

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.500
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Knicks will be there. They're, they're a

0:39:51.540 --> 0:39:55.940
<v Speaker 1>great team. They bring everyone back. You know, I think,

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, Boston's still going to be good. Philadelphia, Miami

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.220
<v Speaker 1>is going to be upgraded with Giannis there.

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:03.910
<v Speaker 4>Indiana.

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.370
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I, I think that team, you know, Halliburton, they,

0:40:07.450 --> 0:40:09.830
<v Speaker 1>you know, he comes back, you, you bring Zubats, like,

0:40:10.710 --> 0:40:14.550
<v Speaker 1>The East is going to be a slugfest. I actually

0:40:14.610 --> 0:40:17.350
<v Speaker 1>think the Knicks, as good as they are and as

0:40:17.370 --> 0:40:20.150
<v Speaker 1>good as they'll be, they're going to have a tougher

0:40:20.230 --> 0:40:21.670
<v Speaker 1>road to the finals.

0:40:23.350 --> 0:40:25.529
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that Grant Hill agrees with me.

0:40:25.590 --> 0:40:26.930
<v Speaker 4>Just two smart guys talking sports.

0:40:26.969 --> 0:40:28.870
<v Speaker 2>Question for you, Paul. How many times do you think

0:40:28.890 --> 0:40:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Grant Hill has been on with Dan?

0:40:31.570 --> 0:40:34.459
<v Speaker 5>Oh, honestly, probably 40. And that's a lot.

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.460
<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking all the way back, remember, wasn't Grant

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Hill in the piano commercial for This Is Sports Center

0:40:39.700 --> 0:40:42.310
<v Speaker 2>and Dan had a tough day and Grant Hill's playing

0:40:42.370 --> 0:40:43.969
<v Speaker 2>piano in the lobby and Dan puts a dollar in

0:40:44.010 --> 0:40:44.330
<v Speaker 2>his jar?

0:40:44.430 --> 0:40:46.770
<v Speaker 5>I think, and Dan would join us to talk about this,

0:40:46.810 --> 0:40:50.490
<v Speaker 5>but The first commercial he did for this at SportsCenter

0:40:50.550 --> 0:40:51.230
<v Speaker 5>was with Grant Hill.

0:40:51.270 --> 0:40:52.359
<v Speaker 4>That was the first one Dan did.

0:40:52.530 --> 0:40:54.460
<v Speaker 2>Wow. And that was great. He did so many great ones.

0:40:54.500 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 2>But Grant Hill is always an A-plus interview. I don't

0:40:57.140 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 2>know about his background today. That was a little sparse.

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 4>A little sparse. But, you know, he's a minimalist.

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.260
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But I keep hearing this thing about the NBA

0:41:04.620 --> 0:41:06.879
<v Speaker 2>that the East is crazy right now. You really don't

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.210
<v Speaker 2>have many off nights if you're playing an Eastern Conference team.

0:41:09.290 --> 0:41:09.930
<v Speaker 4>It's a lot of fun.

0:41:09.969 --> 0:41:12.890
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of refreshed with LeBron going to Philly. You know,

0:41:13.030 --> 0:41:14.410
<v Speaker 5>you grew up back in the day when we were

0:41:14.530 --> 0:41:15.169
<v Speaker 5>real little kids.

0:41:15.190 --> 0:41:15.930
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It was Philly.

0:41:15.950 --> 0:41:16.230
<v Speaker 2>Philly.

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:17.460
<v Speaker 4>And it wasn't really the Knicks.

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.660
<v Speaker 5>It was the Celtics and Philly were the top two

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 5>hammers in the East.

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:21.900
<v Speaker 2>They get to play the Lakers.

0:41:22.060 --> 0:41:24.220
<v Speaker 4>They get to play the Lakers. You'd see Philly on

0:41:25.090 --> 0:41:25.710
<v Speaker 4>TV all the time.

0:41:25.910 --> 0:41:29.790
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but let's talk about Chicago. Toronto is a super

0:41:29.830 --> 0:41:32.109
<v Speaker 2>hot pick, too. There's a lot of teams that haven't

0:41:32.130 --> 0:41:33.620
<v Speaker 2>been good in recent years. Charlotte.

0:41:33.660 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 4>Detroit's been good in the regular season.

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Detroit's been dominant, but I think you can go pretty deep.

0:41:38.780 --> 0:41:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Poor Knicks. I love that the Knicks are the defending champion.

0:41:41.300 --> 0:41:43.800
<v Speaker 2>We're not giving them any love. Again, they were a

0:41:43.820 --> 0:41:44.819
<v Speaker 2>great story.

0:41:45.060 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 5>As we say, I don't need love. I just need

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.990
<v Speaker 5>a parade. All right, let's do some NBA picks. These

0:41:49.030 --> 0:41:50.969
<v Speaker 5>are our picks, Perloff. We've got to get them on

0:41:51.010 --> 0:41:55.050
<v Speaker 5>the record. I'm going to go with most surprising team

0:41:55.170 --> 0:41:56.390
<v Speaker 5>in the NBA. It doesn't mean they're going to win

0:41:56.410 --> 0:41:58.690
<v Speaker 5>the title, just they're going to outdo expectations.

0:41:58.710 --> 0:41:59.230
<v Speaker 4>You want to go first?

0:41:59.430 --> 0:42:02.989
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I have a very surprising team. The Brooklyn Nets,

0:42:03.090 --> 0:42:05.910
<v Speaker 2>and I'll tell you why. They have some talent. Julius

0:42:05.950 --> 0:42:08.339
<v Speaker 2>Randle and Michael Porter Jr., but it's not that. They

0:42:08.380 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 2>do not have their draft pick. They have a swap

0:42:10.580 --> 0:42:13.180
<v Speaker 2>with the Rockets from some old trade. So they have

0:42:13.390 --> 0:42:16.609
<v Speaker 2>no reason to tank. And in the NBA, come late

0:42:16.630 --> 0:42:19.830
<v Speaker 2>in the season, that is a huge advantage if you

0:42:19.870 --> 0:42:22.250
<v Speaker 2>want some Ws. So I think they hang around and

0:42:22.290 --> 0:42:25.690
<v Speaker 2>hang around. And they have a very interesting roster. It

0:42:25.710 --> 0:42:28.310
<v Speaker 2>seems like they're headed in the right direction, which hasn't

0:42:28.510 --> 0:42:30.690
<v Speaker 2>been the case in a long, long time. But I

0:42:30.750 --> 0:42:32.049
<v Speaker 2>think the fact that they don't have a draft pick

0:42:32.110 --> 0:42:34.529
<v Speaker 2>means that they're going to be trying really hard come April.

0:42:34.750 --> 0:42:37.610
<v Speaker 5>I'm going with the Portland Trailblazers, my most surprising team.

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.180
<v Speaker 5>Nobody talks about them off the radar for a while.

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:43.259
<v Speaker 5>You love your guy Donovan Klingin. They're going to win

0:42:43.260 --> 0:42:44.819
<v Speaker 5>52 games and be a little saucy.

0:42:44.820 --> 0:42:46.290
<v Speaker 2>52 games?

0:42:46.510 --> 0:42:47.730
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a big jump for them.

0:42:47.930 --> 0:42:51.790
<v Speaker 2>That's expecting a lot of help from guards who are

0:42:52.210 --> 0:42:53.930
<v Speaker 2>a little bit older. I don't know if I see that.

0:42:53.969 --> 0:42:55.810
<v Speaker 4>Let's go with disappointing. Most disappointing team?

0:42:56.070 --> 0:42:57.630
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to go with the LA Lakers because the

0:42:57.690 --> 0:43:00.430
<v Speaker 5>coverage rarely matches the production. I just don't think they

0:43:00.469 --> 0:43:02.790
<v Speaker 5>did a lot to improve themselves. They've got new players.

0:43:03.170 --> 0:43:04.969
<v Speaker 5>I don't think they've got great players. And it's going

0:43:04.989 --> 0:43:07.180
<v Speaker 5>to be Luka putting up a lot of action. And

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 5>not much help again. It seems like a rinse and

0:43:09.460 --> 0:43:10.140
<v Speaker 5>repeat type situation.

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, Walker Kessler in the middle maybe do

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:14.910
<v Speaker 2>a couple things. I'm going to go my most disappointing teams.

0:43:14.930 --> 0:43:16.430
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go a little taller. How about the

0:43:16.469 --> 0:43:19.670
<v Speaker 2>San Antonio Spurs? Wow. It's not like the Super Bowl

0:43:19.730 --> 0:43:22.150
<v Speaker 2>where if you lose, you have a jinx. But I

0:43:22.230 --> 0:43:24.030
<v Speaker 2>don't think the Spurs are quite.

0:43:25.489 --> 0:43:26.690
<v Speaker 2>On the brink of a title. I think they were

0:43:26.710 --> 0:43:28.870
<v Speaker 2>a little ahead of their skis in last year's finals.

0:43:28.930 --> 0:43:29.169
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:43:29.550 --> 0:43:31.750
<v Speaker 2>Here's my issue. I keep saying it. Wemby is not

0:43:31.790 --> 0:43:34.660
<v Speaker 2>getting enough help inside, so he's got to do everything.

0:43:34.739 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I feel like he'll wear down throughout the season. Keeping

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.420
<v Speaker 2>him healthy for 82 games, then several rounds of the playoffs,

0:43:40.460 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 2>that seems like a pipe dream to me.

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:41.739
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.100
<v Speaker 5>It's time for our MVPs. My MVP is a guy

0:43:44.140 --> 0:43:46.660
<v Speaker 5>who you said is going to disappoint, Victor Wemby.

0:43:46.700 --> 0:43:48.800
<v Speaker 4>The media wants to give it to him. It's his year.

0:43:48.820 --> 0:43:50.890
<v Speaker 5>All he has to do is play 70 games and

0:43:50.910 --> 0:43:53.489
<v Speaker 5>get the stats. Everybody else has won one. SGA has

0:43:53.510 --> 0:43:55.569
<v Speaker 5>won a couple. Everyone else has won one or more.

0:43:55.969 --> 0:43:58.350
<v Speaker 5>It's destiny for him this year if he stays healthy.

0:43:58.370 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 4>Your MVP?

0:43:59.260 --> 0:44:02.540
<v Speaker 2>Luka Doncic, because it's a narrative award. LeBron leaves and

0:44:02.580 --> 0:44:04.420
<v Speaker 2>Luka steps up his game. I think they're going to

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 2>be better without LeBron milling around the team. And Luka,

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:08.859
<v Speaker 2>we've seen him win with nobody, Paul.

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 4>He does have an opportunity.

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:12.700
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's gone well over 50 wins with the worst teams.

0:44:12.739 --> 0:44:15.529
<v Speaker 4>All right, I'll go first. Our NBA Finals prediction. I'm

0:44:15.590 --> 0:44:20.910
<v Speaker 4>going 76ers. Over Oklahoma City in full seven games. Oh, wow.

0:44:20.950 --> 0:44:24.510
<v Speaker 4>I'm taking your Sixers before you can take your Sixers, Perloff. Hijacked.

0:44:25.340 --> 0:44:27.780
<v Speaker 2>I'm going a little more obvious. I'm going to Oklahoma

0:44:27.820 --> 0:44:29.900
<v Speaker 2>City Thunder. In fact, if they were healthy, if Jalen

0:44:29.940 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Williams was healthy last year, they would have won last year.

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:32.180
<v Speaker 3>True.

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 2>They're the best team in the NBA.

0:44:33.180 --> 0:44:37.259
<v Speaker 5>All right, coming up next, constructive criticism and, oh, Noah

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.299
<v Speaker 5>Eagle will be joining us from San Antonio, getting you

0:44:39.340 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 5>ready for the NBA season.

0:44:40.860 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Stick around.

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:42.180
<v Speaker 4>Not so fast.

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.029
<v Speaker 2>I think we have a big debate going on Luka Doncic.

0:44:46.070 --> 0:44:49.690
<v Speaker 2>How good are the Lakers? I think with Luka playing well, healthy,

0:44:49.710 --> 0:44:50.850
<v Speaker 2>and in good shape, they're going to be fine.

0:44:50.870 --> 0:44:52.290
<v Speaker 4>And my Sixers now. They're my Sixers.

0:44:52.610 --> 0:44:55.790
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can have them. Think that team's going to

0:44:55.810 --> 0:44:56.189
<v Speaker 2>stay healthy?

0:44:56.210 --> 0:44:56.549
<v Speaker 4>Come on.

0:44:57.170 --> 0:44:59.500
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Paul Paps. So we did something last week called Done

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:04.739
<v Speaker 2>or Done Done. Was that the name of the segment?

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:06.620
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because the team could be done. Like, oh, man,

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:07.020
<v Speaker 4>they're done.

0:45:07.060 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 5>But you have to declare them done done, which means,

0:45:09.739 --> 0:45:13.290
<v Speaker 5>by definition, they cannot and will not make the NFL playoffs.

0:45:13.750 --> 0:45:18.330
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's start. We're declaring the Chargers and the Commanders done-done.

0:45:18.430 --> 0:45:20.570
<v Speaker 5>Now, last week we were in between on the Chargers

0:45:20.590 --> 0:45:24.010
<v Speaker 5>because you said Chargers were done-done, and I said just done,

0:45:24.090 --> 0:45:26.549
<v Speaker 5>so that puts them in that purgatory area. I am

0:45:26.590 --> 0:45:28.339
<v Speaker 5>now ready to agree with you that the Chargers are

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:29.620
<v Speaker 5>done-done and not making the playoffs.

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know about the Commanders because I think

0:45:32.260 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 2>anybody who can play any form of organized football could

0:45:35.100 --> 0:45:37.460
<v Speaker 2>win the NFC East. So I don't think the Commanders

0:45:37.500 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 2>make the done-done list.

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.060
<v Speaker 5>No, I don't think the Commanders make that list because

0:45:41.100 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 5>of the— not so much them— but the division around them.

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:47.379
<v Speaker 5>It's still a weirdly winnable, but I don't think they're

0:45:47.460 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 5>a threatening team in any way, and the second half

0:45:49.300 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 5>last night didn't help a lot.

0:45:50.340 --> 0:45:53.500
<v Speaker 2>No, they seem disorganized, too. That really bothers me. Sometimes

0:45:53.620 --> 0:45:56.540
<v Speaker 2>key plays are false starts, or they barely got the

0:45:56.580 --> 0:46:00.229
<v Speaker 2>play in. Okay, LA Rams belong on a done-done list?

0:46:00.650 --> 0:46:02.690
<v Speaker 5>I'm surprised we even put them on this list. I

0:46:02.750 --> 0:46:04.969
<v Speaker 5>know at 2-4 you should be on the list. Is

0:46:05.010 --> 0:46:07.150
<v Speaker 5>this insulting for them to even be on the list?

0:46:07.710 --> 0:46:10.350
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think so, but there are a lot of problems.

0:46:10.469 --> 0:46:13.690
<v Speaker 2>Devontae Adams out for several weeks with a hamstring. What

0:46:13.730 --> 0:46:15.219
<v Speaker 2>is it, a ruptured hamstring?

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:20.009
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that sounds like there's strained, sprained hamstrings. torn, ruptured.

0:46:20.070 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 4>Ruptured is the one you don't want.

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 2>But the defensive line is also huge problems there. Think

0:46:24.940 --> 0:46:27.100
<v Speaker 2>about it. Aaron Donald came to play with guys like

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.340
<v Speaker 2>Puna Ford and Miles Garrett, and none of them are

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:32.240
<v Speaker 2>on the field. It's just Aaron Donald. That's really disappointing.

0:46:32.260 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>But no way are they done done. And they are

0:46:34.460 --> 0:46:35.399
<v Speaker 2>going to get some guys back.

0:46:35.420 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 5>And we're not those hot take guys that declare a

0:46:37.219 --> 0:46:39.190
<v Speaker 5>team's done, and then when they win three in a row, say, up.

0:46:39.540 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Hey, look, they're back. Once you're done, done, you're done.

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.859
<v Speaker 2>Would you use a draft pick to trade for a receiver, say,

0:46:43.930 --> 0:46:46.890
<v Speaker 2>Brian Thomas Jr. from Jacksonville or Rashad Bateman in Baltimore?

0:46:46.969 --> 0:46:48.450
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, because that's what the Rams do.

0:46:48.489 --> 0:46:51.850
<v Speaker 5>They only value draft picks in, like, The one draft

0:46:51.870 --> 0:46:53.830
<v Speaker 5>pick they had this year, they even used that on

0:46:53.850 --> 0:46:56.710
<v Speaker 5>the future. They used their draft picks for now, or

0:46:56.730 --> 0:46:58.469
<v Speaker 5>they went with Ty Simpson out of Alabama.

0:46:58.670 --> 0:47:00.350
<v Speaker 4>They don't look at the draft like normal teams look

0:47:00.370 --> 0:47:01.230
<v Speaker 4>at the draft.

0:47:01.710 --> 0:47:05.049
<v Speaker 2>The Eagles, obviously we just learned that Jalen Hurts is

0:47:05.140 --> 0:47:06.939
<v Speaker 2>likely out for the season with a blood clot issue.

0:47:06.980 --> 0:47:07.819
<v Speaker 2>Are they done done?

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.500
<v Speaker 5>I think they're too decent of a team generally with

0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:13.070
<v Speaker 5>the talent on both sides of the ball. Tanner McKee

0:47:13.110 --> 0:47:14.650
<v Speaker 5>I don't think will be bad. I think he'll be

0:47:14.730 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 5>probably like a C-plus, B-minus type quarterback for them. He's

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 5>been there a while, Tanner McKee. More of a drop-back guy.

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 5>I think they're going to be, I wouldn't say fine

0:47:22.420 --> 0:47:25.020
<v Speaker 5>because that's too complimentary, but that division. I think the

0:47:25.140 --> 0:47:26.660
<v Speaker 5>team they've got to get past is the New York Giants.

0:47:26.900 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 5>They've been the most consistent, weirdly.

0:47:28.460 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, actually, I pulled up the odds. The Cowboys are

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 2>the slight favorite, and the Giants right behind them. The

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:35.900
<v Speaker 2>Eagles are last. That is just done, done. Put it

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:39.859
<v Speaker 2>in all caps. Stamp it on there. Really? Yeah. I mean,

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:41.930
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. Even if Jalen Hurts was still the quarterback,

0:47:41.950 --> 0:47:45.410
<v Speaker 2>when Lane Johnson retired, they cannot win without their all-world

0:47:45.469 --> 0:47:45.930
<v Speaker 2>right tackle.

0:47:46.030 --> 0:47:47.950
<v Speaker 5>I think your done, done is based on them being

0:47:47.969 --> 0:47:50.830
<v Speaker 5>a threatening team. You're saying even if they somehow weirdly

0:47:50.870 --> 0:47:51.529
<v Speaker 5>snuck in the playoffs.

0:47:51.590 --> 0:47:52.910
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's it. I don't think that's in

0:47:52.950 --> 0:47:56.049
<v Speaker 2>play anymore. First of all, there's so many injuries. Right

0:47:56.070 --> 0:47:58.689
<v Speaker 2>now their defense is keeping them in games. But Tanner

0:47:58.710 --> 0:48:02.330
<v Speaker 2>McKee was fine. If you want to argue against me,

0:48:02.350 --> 0:48:04.549
<v Speaker 2>you're right. The division is terrible, but I don't know

0:48:04.590 --> 0:48:05.930
<v Speaker 2>how Tanner McKee does anything.

0:48:05.969 --> 0:48:07.509
<v Speaker 5>I'd like to take a 20 on this division. The

0:48:07.550 --> 0:48:10.280
<v Speaker 5>Cowboys are going to regret this season more than any season.

0:48:10.530 --> 0:48:12.739
<v Speaker 5>I know the Cowboys won seven each of the past

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 5>two years, and I know they don't have a great defense,

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.060
<v Speaker 5>but they should have offensive their way to a 500

0:48:18.060 --> 0:48:20.100
<v Speaker 5>record at this point. And if they somehow don't make

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:22.580
<v Speaker 5>the playoffs... in this weak, you know what, division.

0:48:22.820 --> 0:48:23.219
<v Speaker 2>Oh, man.

0:48:23.340 --> 0:48:24.540
<v Speaker 4>It's embarrassing.

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:26.380
<v Speaker 2>You think Brian Schottenheimer gets fired if they don't make

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:29.569
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs? I do, because that means they have five wins.

0:48:29.930 --> 0:48:32.029
<v Speaker 4>I probably would, because Jerry Jones does not seem like

0:48:32.070 --> 0:48:34.529
<v Speaker 4>a patient guy under normal circumstances. I don't think he's

0:48:34.550 --> 0:48:35.969
<v Speaker 4>getting any younger. I just did the math.

0:48:36.850 --> 0:48:38.940
<v Speaker 5>He has no relationship with Brian Schottenheimer to keep him.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing about what they do, the problem with Dallas is,

0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:43.299
<v Speaker 5>I know we can do a big deep dive, is

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.100
<v Speaker 5>they hire people who could be bossed around. They don't

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.140
<v Speaker 5>hire alpha dogs since they got Parcells in there.

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:50.859
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good point. You know, Jerry Jones has

0:48:50.940 --> 0:48:53.819
<v Speaker 2>not won another Bill Parcells. I heard a rumor that

0:48:53.900 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 2>he brought in Parcells so he could get a new

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.899
<v Speaker 2>stadium built and win some games. And then the second

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 2>the stadium was greenlit, he said goodbye. Okay, lastly on

0:49:01.300 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 2>this list, our producer Scott Messina, not us, put the

0:49:04.820 --> 0:49:07.580
<v Speaker 2>Raiders as a potential Dun Dun team. Weren't they the

0:49:07.620 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 2>feel-good team of the league just two weeks ago?

0:49:09.660 --> 0:49:11.140
<v Speaker 4>They almost won the game the other day.

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:12.819
<v Speaker 5>I know they've lost a few in a row, but

0:49:13.150 --> 0:49:15.729
<v Speaker 5>Dundon is in that division, it's tough.

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I would say I can't go Dundon on them.

0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:21.800
<v Speaker 5>I will say, though, that Kirk Cousins in about three

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 5>weeks or four weeks will be Dundon because once they're

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:27.840
<v Speaker 5>out of striking distance of the playoffs, they're going to

0:49:27.900 --> 0:49:30.100
<v Speaker 5>pivot to Mendoza around week 10.

0:49:30.100 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 2>What about a trade? How about Kirk Cousins going somewhere

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:33.800
<v Speaker 2>else who needs a quarterback?

0:49:33.910 --> 0:49:35.970
<v Speaker 4>Well, you need an injury. What you need is an injury.

0:49:36.010 --> 0:49:37.989
<v Speaker 4>But I love this. Actually, this is a great take

0:49:38.030 --> 0:49:38.290
<v Speaker 4>by you.

0:49:38.670 --> 0:49:42.430
<v Speaker 5>If some contender... somehow needs a quarterback three weeks from now.

0:49:42.710 --> 0:49:44.509
<v Speaker 5>Let's say Josh Allen got banged up hard.

0:49:44.690 --> 0:49:46.979
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what? What about the Eagles?

0:49:48.670 --> 0:49:51.290
<v Speaker 4>Man, like a one-year, a nine-game rental?

0:49:51.469 --> 0:49:55.180
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a nine-game rental. It rarely works, but we've seen

0:49:55.219 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 2>teams try it before to switch gears mid-season.

0:49:57.500 --> 0:49:59.700
<v Speaker 4>There's a Kohl's in Philadelphia. Kirk Cousins would look great.

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 2>There are many Kohl's. All right, I don't know if

0:50:02.700 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 2>we really add to the list. The Chargers are definitely done-done,

0:50:05.460 --> 0:50:07.420
<v Speaker 2>but everyone else is sort of hanging around for at

0:50:07.460 --> 0:50:07.970
<v Speaker 2>least one of us.

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.310
<v Speaker 4>We had Saints in Purgatory last year. Saints are.

0:50:10.989 --> 0:50:12.430
<v Speaker 2>They won, though.

0:50:12.489 --> 0:50:12.629
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:50:12.850 --> 0:50:14.550
<v Speaker 2>Same thing. They have such an easy division.

0:50:14.590 --> 0:50:14.710
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:50:14.730 --> 0:50:16.870
<v Speaker 5>You can not like the Saints, but agree they're not

0:50:16.989 --> 0:50:18.950
<v Speaker 5>done done because the division's easy.

0:50:19.370 --> 0:50:22.990
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're probably right. All right. Well, hopefully the Eagles

0:50:23.050 --> 0:50:25.739
<v Speaker 2>are not done, done, done, which means not just done,

0:50:25.780 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 2>but done for the next several years because it is

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:30.900
<v Speaker 2>not going well. All right. Coming up next, we're going

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:34.610
<v Speaker 2>to go to constructive criticism. You know what, BYU fans,

0:50:34.660 --> 0:50:36.580
<v Speaker 2>leave my guy Paul Paps alone. We're going to get

0:50:36.620 --> 0:50:37.620
<v Speaker 2>in that not so fast.

0:50:37.660 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 4>Bring it, BYU. We're all friends here. I love BYU.

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:44.180
<v Speaker 2>I do, yeah. We love BYU. Provo is gorgeous.

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:44.660
<v Speaker 3>Gorgeous.

0:50:45.420 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Can't really drink there.

0:50:46.590 --> 0:50:48.370
<v Speaker 4>No, you can if you find some people, you know.

0:50:49.010 --> 0:50:50.370
<v Speaker 4>You've got to find a hookup.

0:50:50.390 --> 0:50:53.790
<v Speaker 2>You've got to. Welcome back to Not So Fast. Andrew Perloff,

0:50:53.830 --> 0:50:57.430
<v Speaker 2>Paul Paps, NBC Sports Now. And Peacock. All right, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's still fallout from last night's Monday

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Night Football game. The Niners hold off the Commanders. I'm

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 2>not so sure about the Niners. The Commanders are what

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 2>they are.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, I got to tell you, I'm quite surprised

0:51:08.980 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 5>that you don't think last night was a good night

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:13.980
<v Speaker 5>for an injured, banged up 49ers team.

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:14.660
<v Speaker 4>They're at home.

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:16.859
<v Speaker 2>They should blow out the Commanders. They should have won

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:17.310
<v Speaker 2>that game 38-7.

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 5>It did feel like a step off the gas at halftime.

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 5>At halftime, they're probably calling, making plans, getting ready for

0:51:23.180 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 5>a late dinner.

0:51:24.260 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 2>But don't you think it was more when Mike Evans

0:51:26.100 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 2>got hurt, the Niners lost their offensive mojo?

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.009
<v Speaker 5>But he's not hurt-hurt, he's hurt. He's not out six

0:51:32.030 --> 0:51:35.109
<v Speaker 5>to eight weeks hurt. McCaffrey's healthy. I think the bigger

0:51:35.150 --> 0:51:38.250
<v Speaker 5>picture is how Brock Purdy is playing relaxes everything. When

0:51:38.290 --> 0:51:40.489
<v Speaker 5>he got that big contract a couple years ago, people

0:51:40.510 --> 0:51:43.250
<v Speaker 5>were like, you're going to give this guy 255 or

0:51:43.270 --> 0:51:46.450
<v Speaker 5>whatever it was? And nobody asks that anymore because the

0:51:46.469 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 5>guy doesn't get sacked. He's been sacked six times in

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:50.220
<v Speaker 5>six games.

0:51:50.660 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 4>I think that's one a game. I just did the math.

0:51:52.100 --> 0:51:53.540
<v Speaker 4>That's light. He barely gets touched.

0:51:54.010 --> 0:51:57.420
<v Speaker 5>I think they're in a fantastic situation, and the benefit

0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:00.800
<v Speaker 5>for them is the Rams are struggling, and the Seahawks

0:52:00.900 --> 0:52:03.060
<v Speaker 5>look like they can't run the ball, and that doesn't look.

0:52:02.980 --> 0:52:03.919
<v Speaker 4>Fixable, those two things.

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I agree with that.

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:07.410
<v Speaker 5>And I'm not saying the 49ers are great. I'm saying

0:52:07.450 --> 0:52:09.430
<v Speaker 5>by default they could have home field advantage.

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:12.910
<v Speaker 2>Is Purdy, I don't want to say system quarterback, but

0:52:12.989 --> 0:52:15.370
<v Speaker 2>he's great when those pieces around him are great. He

0:52:15.410 --> 0:52:18.069
<v Speaker 2>needs McCaffrey to run the ball. He needs a big

0:52:18.110 --> 0:52:21.109
<v Speaker 2>target like Mike Evans. He needs Kittle healthy. If all

0:52:21.150 --> 0:52:23.290
<v Speaker 2>those guys go away, Purdy's not the kind of quarterback

0:52:23.310 --> 0:52:24.670
<v Speaker 2>who can do it alone. He's not Josh Allen.

0:52:24.690 --> 0:52:26.969
<v Speaker 5>He does not wow you like Josh Allen with the physicality.

0:52:27.030 --> 0:52:28.739
<v Speaker 5>He does have a little wiggle. I wouldn't say he's

0:52:28.780 --> 0:52:31.180
<v Speaker 5>a great runner. It's more like he gets downfield. He's

0:52:31.219 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 5>not scared to take on a little contact. So Brock Purdy, again,

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 5>he's not the roll left, throw right, 80 yards across

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.770
<v Speaker 5>his body guy. He's not a highlight guy, but he's

0:52:40.810 --> 0:52:42.310
<v Speaker 5>got a little bit of that, I hate to say

0:52:42.350 --> 0:52:45.529
<v Speaker 5>gritty and guttiness, but that gritty toughness. And he's got

0:52:45.710 --> 0:52:48.180
<v Speaker 5>all the tools to like an 8. He's not a

0:52:48.180 --> 0:52:48.570
<v Speaker 5>10 anywhere.

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 2>And he knows when to run. Yes. He's very frustrating

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 2>if you're playing against him or you bat against him

0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:56.060
<v Speaker 2>because he will always get the first down with his legs.

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:58.900
<v Speaker 2>I just think, Paul, six games. It's a long season.

0:52:58.940 --> 0:53:00.839
<v Speaker 2>And you see the injuries sort of mounting up for them.

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:03.739
<v Speaker 2>And if he doesn't have the pieces around him, forget MVP.

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:04.060
<v Speaker 3>Sure.

0:53:04.219 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I think they could be in much different shape come December.

0:53:06.300 --> 0:53:08.290
<v Speaker 5>You mentioned the Rams trading for someone. How about the

0:53:08.390 --> 0:53:11.310
<v Speaker 5>49ers making a trade for the trade deadline? Defender or

0:53:11.350 --> 0:53:11.870
<v Speaker 5>wide receiver?

0:53:12.610 --> 0:53:15.370
<v Speaker 2>Definitely not defense. They have all these young guys who

0:53:15.410 --> 0:53:18.509
<v Speaker 2>have stepped up and will be fine. Even without Nick Bosa,

0:53:18.530 --> 0:53:19.100
<v Speaker 2>they look dominant.

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:20.660
<v Speaker 4>But they need at least one receiver.

0:53:21.219 --> 0:53:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No.

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:22.219
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:53:22.260 --> 0:53:26.220
<v Speaker 2>So they're getting Stribling, the rookie, back. They're getting Debo.

0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:30.620
<v Speaker 2>Debo is coming back. Mike Evans, I worry about. Christian

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Kirk is coming back.

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 5>But again, we talk about playing while you're hot or

0:53:35.020 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 5>making a move while you're hot.

0:53:36.780 --> 0:53:38.920
<v Speaker 4>They didn't expect to be 6-0. It's almost like.

0:53:39.469 --> 0:53:42.420
<v Speaker 5>A baseball team being above 500 right around the trade deadline,

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:43.300
<v Speaker 5>let's press the gas.

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 2>So the guy whose name is out there is Brian

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:48.989
<v Speaker 2>Thomas Jr. Jacksonville had an amazing rookie season, but he

0:53:49.030 --> 0:53:51.489
<v Speaker 2>had seven drops as a rookie, 10 last year, and

0:53:51.510 --> 0:53:53.569
<v Speaker 2>he already has three this year. Are you sure that's

0:53:53.590 --> 0:53:55.460
<v Speaker 2>the element you want to add? The other thing about

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:59.320
<v Speaker 2>these Niners, maybe this is me just speculating, they seem

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:02.940
<v Speaker 2>very cohesive. They're all buddies, especially the defense. The defense

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:05.420
<v Speaker 2>is really unified. I don't know if you want to

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:06.500
<v Speaker 2>bring in an outside guy.

0:54:06.780 --> 0:54:07.620
<v Speaker 4>No, I know that.

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:09.470
<v Speaker 5>You don't want to bring in a guy who drops passes.

0:54:09.750 --> 0:54:12.830
<v Speaker 5>But Houston brought in Marvin Harrison Jr., who had done nothing.

0:54:13.170 --> 0:54:15.210
<v Speaker 5>But they said to themselves, we've got to spark this

0:54:15.250 --> 0:54:16.830
<v Speaker 5>up a little bit because we're having a bad September.

0:54:17.230 --> 0:54:19.650
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes a move for the move's sake is the move.

0:54:19.750 --> 0:54:21.280
<v Speaker 2>But if you're 6-0, why would you make a move

0:54:21.300 --> 0:54:21.939
<v Speaker 2>for the move's sake?

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 4>Because, I would say the injuries.

0:54:24.020 --> 0:54:26.100
<v Speaker 5>Because the age of Debo and the age of Mike Evans,

0:54:26.500 --> 0:54:28.719
<v Speaker 5>one of the two probably will not be available in

0:54:28.739 --> 0:54:29.340
<v Speaker 5>deep January.

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:30.980
<v Speaker 2>But what is the issue we always talk about with

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:34.540
<v Speaker 2>the Niners? The big issue. Probably the primary issue coming

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:34.980
<v Speaker 2>into every season.

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:36.020
<v Speaker 4>The electric plant next door?

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:41.140
<v Speaker 2>You got me. No, Christian McCaffrey's usage. Yes. We always say,

0:54:41.430 --> 0:54:43.650
<v Speaker 2>do not wear down your bell cow because he is

0:54:43.670 --> 0:54:44.710
<v Speaker 2>the best player on this team.

0:54:44.750 --> 0:54:47.069
<v Speaker 4>And I like the draft pick of Kalen Black out

0:54:47.090 --> 0:54:47.470
<v Speaker 4>of Indiana.

0:54:47.510 --> 0:54:48.649
<v Speaker 2>Where was he last night, though?

0:54:48.710 --> 0:54:50.529
<v Speaker 5>He only carried the ball about five times. I thought

0:54:50.550 --> 0:54:52.879
<v Speaker 5>they would get more. All right, let's go to... Fun

0:54:52.900 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 5>game last night. Let's get to a little constructive criticism.

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.589
<v Speaker 5>Your feedback, your thoughts, your commentary. Heard from a lot

0:54:58.630 --> 0:55:00.149
<v Speaker 5>of BYU fans. We'll get to you in a second.

0:55:00.170 --> 0:55:02.250
<v Speaker 4>Here we go, Pearl. Constructive criticism time.

0:55:02.770 --> 0:55:03.340
<v Speaker 2>Let's go with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, this is the little boy who won, who's grandmother.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, look at that.

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<v Speaker 4>This is from Dan Casper. We know this guy. He's

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<v Speaker 4>a fan of the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Paul Paps, thanks for the shout out on Not

0:55:17.739 --> 0:55:20.900
<v Speaker 5>So Fast about my kiddo Hudson and his World Series tickets.

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<v Speaker 4>What a week this guy's having.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, which is bigger to him, being on Not

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 5>So Fast, featured, or going to the World Series?

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<v Speaker 4>Your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>It depends if the Brewers win. No, obviously going to

0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:34.300
<v Speaker 2>the World Series. But first of all, he's still smiling.

0:55:34.620 --> 0:55:37.450
<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable. He has not stopped smiling since those tickets

0:55:37.489 --> 0:55:39.290
<v Speaker 2>came through. He almost makes me want to root for

0:55:39.310 --> 0:55:41.390
<v Speaker 2>the Brewers. Can you picture his face if they lose?

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe you even brought that up. You can't

0:55:43.510 --> 0:55:44.830
<v Speaker 4>say that. The little guy's watching.

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<v Speaker 2>One team's got to lose, Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>You go to school, eat your vegetables, the brewers are

0:55:49.940 --> 0:55:50.460
<v Speaker 4>going to be fine.

0:55:50.500 --> 0:55:53.719
<v Speaker 5>Don't listen to that mean Mr. Andrew Perloff there. All right,

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<v Speaker 5>let's get to the next one.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, now Joe Montana walked out. There was a Ring

0:55:58.410 --> 0:56:00.710
<v Speaker 5>of Honor thing going on, so all the Niners were back.

0:56:01.170 --> 0:56:03.830
<v Speaker 5>Joe Montana did a quick interview before the game, and

0:56:03.969 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 5>he had this shirt on, which was, you know, I

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:10.399
<v Speaker 5>would say questionable, risque, whatever word you want to use.

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:13.379
<v Speaker 5>And I tweeted out, Amongst the great things about being

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 5>Joe Montana is you can wear whatever the hell shirt

0:56:15.219 --> 0:56:16.750
<v Speaker 5>you want to wear because you're Joe Montana, you got

0:56:16.770 --> 0:56:17.229
<v Speaker 5>four rings.

0:56:17.630 --> 0:56:20.270
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. But this might be fashionable and we might not

0:56:20.310 --> 0:56:22.430
<v Speaker 2>know about it. You know how Hawaiian shirts came back

0:56:22.489 --> 0:56:25.969
<v Speaker 2>about eight years ago? This might be cool and it's

0:56:26.010 --> 0:56:26.890
<v Speaker 2>just above our head.

0:56:27.390 --> 0:56:27.549
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:56:27.650 --> 0:56:29.410
<v Speaker 4>Like a Bay Area thing? Yeah.

0:56:29.969 --> 0:56:31.690
<v Speaker 2>Kind of California.

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<v Speaker 5>From Eric Jensen, when people refer to you as Joe Montana,

0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:36.339
<v Speaker 5>one word, you can wear any damn thing you want.

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:38.580
<v Speaker 5>That's correct. That's actually correct. Good job by you, Eric.

0:56:39.020 --> 0:56:42.009
<v Speaker 5>And let's get one more from Will Dowdy. This one

0:56:42.050 --> 0:56:44.989
<v Speaker 5>was definitely not recommended by a stylist. That sounds like

0:56:45.030 --> 0:56:46.870
<v Speaker 5>he's making fun of Joe Montana. We don't do that.

0:56:46.989 --> 0:56:49.150
<v Speaker 2>No, that's not allowed. But I've got to tell you,

0:56:49.590 --> 0:56:51.830
<v Speaker 2>they did a team photo. I think they were honoring

0:56:51.870 --> 0:56:54.330
<v Speaker 2>Keenan Turner last night. And the retired players have a

0:56:54.410 --> 0:56:56.430
<v Speaker 2>wide range of looks. Some guys let it go. Some

0:56:56.450 --> 0:57:00.820
<v Speaker 2>guys are still in great shape and wearing sleeveless denim cutoffs.

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:03.259
<v Speaker 2>Other guys just look like they haven't played football in

0:57:03.260 --> 0:57:03.759
<v Speaker 2>100 years.

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<v Speaker 5>Best name in NFL history, Joe Montana.

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:08.379
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just perfect. It sounds like a name.

0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Joe Cool.

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:09.700
<v Speaker 4>Joe Cool.

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 5>You give a quarterback in a movie. Like Johnny Utah

0:57:12.500 --> 0:57:13.720
<v Speaker 5>was based off Joe Montana.

0:57:14.260 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Of course.

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.140
<v Speaker 2>You know, Paul, you with this alliterate, or I don't

0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:19.720
<v Speaker 2>know what you call it when something actually does what

0:57:19.740 --> 0:57:21.610
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like. You thought Mike Quick was the greatest

0:57:21.630 --> 0:57:23.050
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver because his name was Quick.

0:57:23.070 --> 0:57:23.610
<v Speaker 4>It's a great name.

0:57:23.950 --> 0:57:26.230
<v Speaker 2>What was the linebacker for Ohio State who had a name?

0:57:27.290 --> 0:57:30.290
<v Speaker 5>There was Andy Katzenroyer, but you're thinking Michael Stonebreaker, the

0:57:30.310 --> 0:57:31.590
<v Speaker 5>middle linebacker for Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 4>Good pull by you.

0:57:32.380 --> 0:57:33.900
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you wanted to vote for him in the Heisman

0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 2>because you loved his name so much. So, of course,

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:37.680
<v Speaker 2>you're going to go, is that the ultimate name? But

0:57:38.060 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 2>to me, it also depends on what you do. Tom

0:57:40.060 --> 0:57:42.620
<v Speaker 2>Brady is not a name unto itself, but now it

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:44.500
<v Speaker 2>evokes so much just by saying Tom Brady.

0:57:44.540 --> 0:57:46.980
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Tom Brady sounds like my accountant, Tom Brady. He

0:57:47.020 --> 0:57:49.580
<v Speaker 5>really knows what he's talking about. How about best sports

0:57:49.620 --> 0:57:51.580
<v Speaker 5>name for what you do, Usain Bolt?

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:53.180
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good.

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:55.430
<v Speaker 4>You couldn't design a better name than Usain Bolt.

0:57:55.790 --> 0:57:58.010
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm trying to think. If your last name was

0:57:58.130 --> 0:57:59.470
<v Speaker 2>Duncan Basketball.

0:57:59.490 --> 0:58:01.850
<v Speaker 4>There's... Tim Duncan, but he didn't dunk that much. He

0:58:01.890 --> 0:58:03.370
<v Speaker 4>was more of a crisp, one-handed runner.

0:58:03.870 --> 0:58:08.370
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or a bank shot. Wow. All right, a couple.

0:58:08.220 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 5>More NFL questions before we get done. The Rams have issues.

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 5>We're not talking about the Seattle Seahawks. Seattle's on national

0:58:14.260 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 5>TV coming up next week. Do they trade for a

0:58:16.900 --> 0:58:18.400
<v Speaker 5>running back, or do they hold Sir.

0:58:19.100 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 4>I know. You've been jonesing on this one. Does Seattle

0:58:21.580 --> 0:58:22.420
<v Speaker 4>trade for a running back?

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:26.610
<v Speaker 2>That'd be admitting an offseason mistake because they let Kenneth

0:58:26.650 --> 0:58:30.090
<v Speaker 2>Walker go. They actually paid wide receiver Rashid Shahid. If

0:58:30.130 --> 0:58:32.510
<v Speaker 2>they traded for a running back now, it almost puts

0:58:32.530 --> 0:58:35.490
<v Speaker 2>too much of a spotlight on probably the biggest mistake

0:58:35.510 --> 0:58:38.890
<v Speaker 2>of the offseason, letting Ken Walker go. to Kansas City. Now,

0:58:38.950 --> 0:58:41.450
<v Speaker 2>Jadarian Price is coming back. Zach Charbonnet is coming back

0:58:41.590 --> 0:58:44.940
<v Speaker 2>off an injury. So I think Seattle's okay in that department,

0:58:45.300 --> 0:58:47.780
<v Speaker 2>but man, are they regretting letting Walker out the door.

0:58:47.940 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 5>Okay, what about a couple other teams? Like, let's go

0:58:49.940 --> 0:58:53.720
<v Speaker 5>to the NFC North. Chicago Bears, good offense. Caleb Williams back.

0:58:53.780 --> 0:58:56.580
<v Speaker 5>They're good on offense. They have almost no threatening people

0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 5>on defense.

0:58:57.100 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what happened?

0:58:57.860 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I thought the defense was going to be improved.

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:01.240
<v Speaker 5>No, they lost a few guys last year, and they

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:04.110
<v Speaker 5>lived off takeaways last year. Do you see any defensive

0:59:04.150 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 5>players in the play? Like years ago, Khalil Mack was

0:59:06.700 --> 0:59:07.220
<v Speaker 5>a trade bait.

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:10.620
<v Speaker 2>Wow, yeah, you know, obviously a team that is struggling

0:59:10.660 --> 0:59:14.230
<v Speaker 2>is the Philadelphia Eagles. They actually have a couple defensive

0:59:14.270 --> 0:59:16.430
<v Speaker 2>linemen that might be extra. If you need a tackle,

0:59:16.450 --> 0:59:17.050
<v Speaker 2>they got one.

0:59:17.210 --> 0:59:19.450
<v Speaker 5>And the Eagles, you still think, are selling a little bit,

0:59:19.490 --> 0:59:21.950
<v Speaker 5>or started, not... Not a fire sale, but an early

0:59:22.010 --> 0:59:23.110
<v Speaker 5>fire sale with Cam Juergens.

0:59:23.220 --> 0:59:26.020
<v Speaker 2>Right. Former Georgia pass rusher Nolan Smith can be had.

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:28.940
<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing, come trade deadline, especially with a

0:59:29.020 --> 0:59:32.280
<v Speaker 2>pass rusher, nobody's training a guy who's really playing well.

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:34.580
<v Speaker 2>What about Max Crosby?

0:59:34.660 --> 0:59:36.920
<v Speaker 5>The Max Crosby situation, I still, from year to year,

0:59:37.100 --> 0:59:40.220
<v Speaker 5>he was traded. He was going to Baltimore, then somehow

0:59:40.260 --> 0:59:42.450
<v Speaker 5>he didn't pass his physical. I still think that's fishy.

0:59:42.590 --> 0:59:44.910
<v Speaker 2>Well, they limit his number of snaps, which to me

0:59:44.970 --> 0:59:47.530
<v Speaker 2>says that he's not 100% healthy. Now, I don't think

0:59:47.550 --> 0:59:49.930
<v Speaker 2>that's necessarily why Baltimore said no to the trade.

0:59:49.990 --> 0:59:50.189
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:59:50.510 --> 0:59:52.870
<v Speaker 2>But if you're a team that needs a pass rusher,

0:59:53.670 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Max Crosby will teach the young guys how to win. Well,

0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:59.020
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily win, but he'll teach them how to play hard.

0:59:59.060 --> 1:00:00.600
<v Speaker 4>How to play well on a team that doesn't win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the thing you've got to learn out there. All right,

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<v Speaker 5>it's time for the feel good. Let's get you out

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<v Speaker 5>of here feeling good today.

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<v Speaker 4>Ready to go? Here's our feel good on Not So

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<v Speaker 4>Fast for a Tuesday. Look at these guys. Tampa Bay Rays. Yee-haw.

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<v Speaker 5>A little pop fly, anticlimactic, and we're going to the

1:00:20.540 --> 1:00:23.430
<v Speaker 5>World Series. Now, Perloff, the Rays have not been around

1:00:23.470 --> 1:00:25.610
<v Speaker 5>that long, but they used to be the Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 5>Devil Rays. When they were the Devil Rays, they didn't

1:00:28.890 --> 1:00:30.630
<v Speaker 5>make the playoffs even once in their history.

1:00:30.970 --> 1:00:32.990
<v Speaker 4>They removed the Devil. They got the Devil out of town.

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<v Speaker 5>Next thing you know, they make the World Series the

1:00:35.070 --> 1:00:38.050
<v Speaker 5>following year, and they've made the playoffs, I think, nine

1:00:38.190 --> 1:00:39.770
<v Speaker 5>or ten times, including this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Coincidence? Not so fast.

1:00:42.180 --> 1:00:45.570
<v Speaker 2>So when they played the Phillies in 07 with Evan Longoria,

1:00:45.950 --> 1:00:46.910
<v Speaker 2>that was just the Rays?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, just the Rays.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I think that is the key to their entire success.

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<v Speaker 2>Not analytics, not the players. It's the fact that they

1:00:53.950 --> 1:00:55.030
<v Speaker 2>got devil out of their name.

1:00:55.090 --> 1:00:57.210
<v Speaker 5>But then the Duke Blue Devils never got rid of

1:00:57.250 --> 1:00:58.770
<v Speaker 5>the devil and dominated for decades.

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<v Speaker 3>Your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the last couple of years they've come up

1:01:01.870 --> 1:01:02.310
<v Speaker 2>short ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Should they remove the devil and start playing some big basketball?

1:01:04.510 --> 1:01:05.990
<v Speaker 2>Right. I mean, if they keep going out on the

1:01:06.010 --> 1:01:09.230
<v Speaker 2>Elite Eight, then I think they should consider that. There

1:01:09.270 --> 1:01:09.470
<v Speaker 2>you go.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything else football-wise before we wrap up? Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 5>Baseball-wise, we got basketball tonight. Are your 76ers, here's what

1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:18.700
<v Speaker 5>I think is going to happen. I think your 76ers

1:01:18.720 --> 1:01:21.980
<v Speaker 5>are going to win big tonight, set expectations way too high,

1:01:22.380 --> 1:01:24.460
<v Speaker 5>then lose like two of the next three and everyone

1:01:24.500 --> 1:01:25.620
<v Speaker 5>jumps off the bandwagon.

1:01:26.300 --> 1:01:29.020
<v Speaker 2>I see it more as an early season dominance and

1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:30.120
<v Speaker 2>then late season injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 5>They're going to win tonight and then go on a

1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:34.120
<v Speaker 5>little bit of a spill and everyone's going to get

1:01:34.160 --> 1:01:34.640
<v Speaker 5>off the bandwagon.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't forget, tune in to the Dan Patch Show tomorrow

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<v Speaker 5>right here on NBC Sports. Then come hang with us

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<v Speaker 5>on Not So Fast. Enjoy the basketball at NBC. Come

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<v Speaker 5>hang with us after.

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<v Speaker 3>Take it easy.