1
00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,000
Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

2
00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:19,960
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

3
00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,799
Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

4
00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:34,880
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, SAT. And now your hosts Isaiah Stanback,

5
00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:41,159
Speaker 1: heck Ma Harrison, Rob phillips and Kyle Yeoman's. It's an

6
00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,159
Speaker 1: offseason edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Ganko from the

7
00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,080
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco and of course the s WBC Mortgage Studio.

8
00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,879
Speaker 1: So glad you're with us, Kyle Yeoman's, heck My Harrison,

9
00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,040
Speaker 1: Isaiah standback, Rob Phillipson. Well, we've got a lot to

10
00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,800
Speaker 1: talk about because Mini Camp, the rookie he took the

11
00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,880
Speaker 1: field for the first time, not with the star on

12
00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,959
Speaker 1: the side of their helmet because they didn't have stars

13
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,800
Speaker 1: yet and they won't until training camp. However, we saw

14
00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,360
Speaker 1: a lot of rookies in action here at the Star

15
00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,840
Speaker 1: in Frisco, and we've got to hit a lot of

16
00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,800
Speaker 1: those coming up. But first off, everybody, have a good weekend.

17
00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:21,280
Speaker 1: Everybody good as talking about good point. Yeah, I just

18
00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,520
Speaker 1: came back on vacation. For those of you not knowing

19
00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,240
Speaker 1: where I was on Twitter, probably they were like, where's

20
00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,320
Speaker 1: this guy? Thank goodness he is not tweted. Yeah, I'm

21
00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:38,120
Speaker 1: sure everyone I asked they were saying, wow, Well, I

22
00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,440
Speaker 1: just want to know where the TikTok video was. If

23
00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,240
Speaker 1: there was never a week to do it, it's on,

24
00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, if you want us disclo as where you were. Now,

25
00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,600
Speaker 1: well I was in Miami, okay, but no, yeah, no

26
00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,960
Speaker 1: TikTok video. I think. Well, we did actually make a

27
00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,360
Speaker 1: TikTok video posted on my Instagram. It was like the

28
00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,120
Speaker 1: vacation one where you like chuck a shot. Yeah. It

29
00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,160
Speaker 1: was fun. H oh yeah, y'all dabbed on the airplane.

30
00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that was it. Cut to South Beach. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

31
00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,440
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Yeah, that was a TikTok video.

32
00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't dancing like it was. That's what I meant

33
00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,480
Speaker 1: a little while ago. But it was good. It was

34
00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,239
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Had had a great week. But

35
00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,320
Speaker 1: I am ready to get back to football and I

36
00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,680
Speaker 1: take city. I feel like the I feel like the outsider.

37
00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,440
Speaker 1: You you remember back in July, Heckma, whenever you were

38
00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,440
Speaker 1: upset for being left out of the party for training camp.

39
00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,000
Speaker 1: You and Isaiah both to me and rob were the insiders.

40
00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,200
Speaker 1: I guess now I feel I feel what you guys

41
00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,480
Speaker 1: felt because I wanted to see these rookies in mini

42
00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,720
Speaker 1: camp and I did my research, I read up and everything.

43
00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,079
Speaker 1: But of course not seeing with your own eyes is

44
00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,880
Speaker 1: definitely tough. So explain it to me, like I wasn't there, Okay,

45
00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,600
Speaker 1: what were your general thoughts of training camp? Pro will

46
00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,040
Speaker 1: start with you, just if you were to explain it

47
00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,720
Speaker 1: to somebody who wasn't there, which you will be doing

48
00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,240
Speaker 1: to me, What were your thoughts of what you saw

49
00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,320
Speaker 1: from the rookies this past week. The tiny, tiny sample

50
00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,680
Speaker 1: size like we're writing the boy for the Cowboys twenty

51
00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,679
Speaker 1: twenty one season, we've written the on the page really

52
00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:09,000
Speaker 1: t Yeah. Yeah, it's very small, very small, but productive

53
00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,639
Speaker 1: and compared to last year, this is a lot. This

54
00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,000
Speaker 1: is miles ahead where the rookies were last year, just

55
00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,320
Speaker 1: to at least put them in the building, show them

56
00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,040
Speaker 1: where things are, show them how we practice, and hey,

57
00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,560
Speaker 1: they got on the field did a little stuff, so

58
00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,240
Speaker 1: it was good. Isah. Yeah, I agree with right man? Um.

59
00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's ricky minicapp So I mean, for

60
00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,359
Speaker 1: the most part, are you're doing is getting a look

61
00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,160
Speaker 1: at your guys. These guys haven't done any real football work.

62
00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,000
Speaker 1: They should be honest. I mean most of these guys

63
00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,960
Speaker 1: have been training for the combine for the last five months. So, um,

64
00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,400
Speaker 1: you know you gotta gotta like, like Rob said, you

65
00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,800
Speaker 1: got a little bite sizes in terms of their athleticism,

66
00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,280
Speaker 1: some of their attributes, but that's about all you got. Idea,

67
00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:52,760
Speaker 1: the nerves. Guys that nerves and just first time being

68
00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,640
Speaker 1: in an NFL facility, you could you could see it

69
00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,800
Speaker 1: on them. You know, I was nervous for them. Um,

70
00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,200
Speaker 1: but I mean you know that that first day gave

71
00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,640
Speaker 1: way to an awesome second day of practice. I think

72
00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,840
Speaker 1: just getting you know, just the initiating and the initial

73
00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,480
Speaker 1: jitters out for these guys, and honestly, man, it just

74
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,040
Speaker 1: felt everything felt so normal again. On Friday, I mean Friday,

75
00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,320
Speaker 1: we come in and a lot of the restrictions are relaxed.

76
00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,120
Speaker 1: You don't have to wear a mask, you know, you

77
00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,480
Speaker 1: don't have to get your temperature taken and all of that.

78
00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean it was really fun. I mean fun to

79
00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,560
Speaker 1: be in the building, fun to get an opportunity to

80
00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,279
Speaker 1: watch these young guys work. But again, I just felt

81
00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,560
Speaker 1: like the nerves were just built up in them. You

82
00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,720
Speaker 1: mentioned that, the nerves and just kind of how it

83
00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,880
Speaker 1: felt fresh. What was the tempo like, because I remember

84
00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,800
Speaker 1: last year for training camp it was much like this

85
00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,880
Speaker 1: where you're itching for something, you're itching to get on

86
00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,279
Speaker 1: the field. Do you think about some of these guys

87
00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,680
Speaker 1: like I'm Michael Parsons and a Kelvin Joseph, they haven't

88
00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,159
Speaker 1: played a lot of football in the last year fifteen

89
00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,520
Speaker 1: months almost. This is their first real action. Like you said,

90
00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,800
Speaker 1: they've been training for combine, they're doing these pro day

91
00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,000
Speaker 1: things and whatnot. No, they're actually out there in pads

92
00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,840
Speaker 1: and they're they're at least the helmets on and running there.

93
00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,600
Speaker 1: But what was the tempo like, heckma, compared to what

94
00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,520
Speaker 1: you've seen in the past, because that's my biggest thing too.

95
00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,840
Speaker 1: It's because you're you're bringing in a new system on defense.

96
00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,000
Speaker 1: You're bringing in Dan Quinn and he's gonna have his

97
00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,360
Speaker 1: paws all over this rookie class. Well, obviously you had

98
00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,080
Speaker 1: the individual drills, individual work stuff like that. I mean

99
00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,200
Speaker 1: they broke the practice was very regimented from the start,

100
00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, breaking down the individual groups. They didn't force

101
00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,719
Speaker 1: him in push him in too hard, you know. I think,

102
00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, the enthusiasm of the

103
00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,880
Speaker 1: coaches was there, bones possible, was all over the field

104
00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,920
Speaker 1: and like you know, literally kid Christmas morning and you

105
00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,880
Speaker 1: could tell with his energy. But yeah, it was just

106
00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,719
Speaker 1: a breaking down from special team groups to individual groups

107
00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,520
Speaker 1: and again just the pace moved really well for a

108
00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,240
Speaker 1: lot of these guys. And Isaiah spoke about this, and

109
00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,600
Speaker 1: and even Burry Church talked about it because I was

110
00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,520
Speaker 1: sitting next to him on Friday. Was just the fact

111
00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,320
Speaker 1: that you know, guys like Quinn Bohannah, he was in

112
00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,400
Speaker 1: a drill with his coach by himself, you know, so

113
00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,160
Speaker 1: there was no one else to take a rep or

114
00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,600
Speaker 1: get a break like that, so you knew he was

115
00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,000
Speaker 1: him getting a little tired. That first day was obviously

116
00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,680
Speaker 1: going to be there because they were taking them through

117
00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,320
Speaker 1: the gauntlet of things that they wanted from technique stands,

118
00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,760
Speaker 1: things like that. So you know, but the tempo was

119
00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,360
Speaker 1: was awesome. I mean, got a good test on the

120
00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,280
Speaker 1: conditioning of those guys too. Yeah, true that I think

121
00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,560
Speaker 1: that was the point I was gonna hit on, was

122
00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,120
Speaker 1: just this conditioning. You know, these guys, I just already

123
00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,279
Speaker 1: alluded to it. They have not been in football shape.

124
00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,200
Speaker 1: They're not in football shape, I would say, pentise. Guys

125
00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,920
Speaker 1: are reading you know, forties and jumping and lifting weights. Um,

126
00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,279
Speaker 1: it's if football is football. Right when you started getting

127
00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,240
Speaker 1: out there and you're reacting to guys, you're putting your

128
00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,680
Speaker 1: foot in the ground, you're changing directions, you're doing special

129
00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,800
Speaker 1: teams coverage drills. You know, you're doing all your position drills.

130
00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,480
Speaker 1: Life gets really real. Um. So you know you talk

131
00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,640
Speaker 1: about the nerves. Um, you didn't come back day two

132
00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,920
Speaker 1: and these guys probably I would imagine their bodies probably

133
00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,760
Speaker 1: felt like they had had pads on the day one,

134
00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,320
Speaker 1: just because your body is not used to those type

135
00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,520
Speaker 1: of movements. And you factor in some of the you

136
00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,200
Speaker 1: know guys like big Ball, You're like he was by himself, right,

137
00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,560
Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's like that Christmas gift you get.

138
00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,240
Speaker 1: You know that you got right, you talk about fossil,

139
00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,040
Speaker 1: You got a brand new laptop. You know, I know

140
00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,960
Speaker 1: Kyle got a brand new laptop for Christmas. He gonna

141
00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,080
Speaker 1: pushing every little button trying to see what does what

142
00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,040
Speaker 1: And you're not really gonna dive all the way in

143
00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,120
Speaker 1: on any other features, but you just want to see,

144
00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, what is it really kind of capable of.

145
00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,640
Speaker 1: And that's what the coaches are doing with these guys,

146
00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,280
Speaker 1: right They're saying, hey, let me put him in cover one,

147
00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,600
Speaker 1: let me put him a cover three, let me see

148
00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,760
Speaker 1: what he looks like inside shade, outside shade, but you

149
00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,520
Speaker 1: know inside split. You know, they they just want to

150
00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,480
Speaker 1: see what's what's natural for these guys. Um. So, you know,

151
00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,960
Speaker 1: it was like like Rob Brety said, it was just

152
00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of a taste. Yeah, I mean I

153
00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,240
Speaker 1: would say seventy five eighty percent of it was fundamental too.

154
00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, working on stuff that we've seen

155
00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,640
Speaker 1: in training camp last year, takeaway drills, ball protection drills,

156
00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,040
Speaker 1: things that we've seen the coaching staff do in the past.

157
00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,600
Speaker 1: And to Isaiah's point, think about Micah Parsons and play

158
00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,920
Speaker 1: football at all. Last year he got asked the last

159
00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,480
Speaker 1: time he hit a sled? They did you know the

160
00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,520
Speaker 1: sled drills? And he said, I don't know, probably like

161
00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,840
Speaker 1: before the Cotton Bowl, like a year and a half ago,

162
00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,760
Speaker 1: whatever it was. So, I mean, they're trying to ease

163
00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,119
Speaker 1: guys in and it's interesting how the mini can different

164
00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,960
Speaker 1: coaches do it differently, but how it's evolved over the

165
00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,720
Speaker 1: last few years. I mean, it used to be you

166
00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,320
Speaker 1: were here, it was two days out in the heat.

167
00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where you came from. You could be

168
00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,200
Speaker 1: coming from up north where you're not used to the heat,

169
00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000
Speaker 1: and you're out there, you know, really practicing. And Dez

170
00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,720
Speaker 1: threw up is forty yeah, right right in the middle

171
00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,520
Speaker 1: of practice. So um. And when Garrett as he wound

172
00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,880
Speaker 1: up his tenure here, he really scaled it back to

173
00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,960
Speaker 1: where it was just jog through style stuff for a

174
00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,719
Speaker 1: couple of days. And we actually got to see some

175
00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,280
Speaker 1: some eleven on eleven on Saturday, which was a lot

176
00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,480
Speaker 1: of fun. It was just the taste, but they kind

177
00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,360
Speaker 1: of eased them into that. And the other part of it, too,

178
00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,760
Speaker 1: is to try to get the installation, get them caught

179
00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,440
Speaker 1: up on some of that stuff because the veterans are

180
00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,480
Speaker 1: going to be in on that too once you get

181
00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,160
Speaker 1: to OTAs. You want to get the rookies as caught

182
00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,839
Speaker 1: up as you can. And I feel like just looking

183
00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,120
Speaker 1: at these couple of days of practice, like you said,

184
00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,679
Speaker 1: even though it's just a taste, it's so valuable, so

185
00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,240
Speaker 1: valuable for these guys, because you're mentioning Quentin Bahana getting

186
00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,600
Speaker 1: that one on one coaching, and by one on one,

187
00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean, dan Quinn was in his grill for a

188
00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,320
Speaker 1: good amount of practice. I mean, if you're Quentin Bohanna,

189
00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,320
Speaker 1: you're not going to see that whenever OTAs in mini

190
00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,120
Speaker 1: camp come around generally, I mean, and whenever training camp

191
00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,719
Speaker 1: comes around, you're not going to see a lot of that.

192
00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,400
Speaker 1: He got a lot of coaching that he really needed

193
00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,079
Speaker 1: and he's going to improve upon because he's had that

194
00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,000
Speaker 1: one on one, that one on one attention. Absolutely and

195
00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,240
Speaker 1: there is. And the other part of it is the

196
00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,440
Speaker 1: meetings were still virtual, so they would get done with practice,

197
00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,760
Speaker 1: they'd have to go back to the room and you

198
00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,920
Speaker 1: hop on the zoom and you do the meetings there

199
00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,720
Speaker 1: to go over things. That's what makes the on field

200
00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,280
Speaker 1: so critical is that that virtual component is still there.

201
00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:37,760
Speaker 1: So as much time as you can get on the

202
00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,480
Speaker 1: field with them to take advantage of it. Man, can

203
00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,280
Speaker 1: I just say that Quinn Bohanna is the size of

204
00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,240
Speaker 1: human that if he gets on and elevator with you,

205
00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,400
Speaker 1: you say, oh wow, you back up and look, thank you.

206
00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,439
Speaker 1: You don't take the next one. You don't want, you

207
00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,520
Speaker 1: don't want, you want to stay on the elevator, but

208
00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,640
Speaker 1: you back up. Do you make eye contact? No? No,

209
00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,439
Speaker 1: you look him up and down and you go, Okay,

210
00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,719
Speaker 1: you know that is I'm proportionally big human here, you

211
00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,560
Speaker 1: know he is. I was shocked and really like, I mean,

212
00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,160
Speaker 1: it's like Shack. You know, if you see Shack in

213
00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,240
Speaker 1: the room, it's obviously he's seven twelve, you know. And

214
00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,640
Speaker 1: he saying to yourself, he's like, oh my god, look

215
00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,280
Speaker 1: at the side of this man Bohan in the same way.

216
00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,719
Speaker 1: Is he three twenty seven? No? No, no, what do

217
00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,560
Speaker 1: you think? A lot of these weights are off by

218
00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,120
Speaker 1: the way. We'll get we'll get to that. I'm sure. Yeah. Well,

219
00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,959
Speaker 1: I mean his playing weight was what three sixty three

220
00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,880
Speaker 1: fifty seven during his time in Kentucky. He's probably he's

221
00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,000
Speaker 1: look I think he's smaller than that. But he didn't

222
00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,640
Speaker 1: look out of shape. Cow still he did not but

223
00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,960
Speaker 1: three twenty seven good, he's not three twenty seven spelt

224
00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,920
Speaker 1: three twenty seven. Well, we'll say a very tentative three

225
00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,959
Speaker 1: forty five. I think that's probably about right. Three forty five,

226
00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,840
Speaker 1: three fifty were seeing. But he looked really good, he did.

227
00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,600
Speaker 1: He didn't look like he was out of shape. How

228
00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,319
Speaker 1: did how did Michael Parsons look? Because you said, I

229
00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,160
Speaker 1: mean offer about a year. It probably takes a little

230
00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,160
Speaker 1: bit of time to get into rhythm. What did you

231
00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,559
Speaker 1: see you from the first round pick? You want me

232
00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,439
Speaker 1: to answer this, yeah, I want you to Oh, man,

233
00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:16,360
Speaker 1: you made a noise whenever playmaker. I mean look, first

234
00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,600
Speaker 1: day of practice, first day of mini camp. Obviously everyone

235
00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,760
Speaker 1: had the nerves, and you saw immediately a guy that's

236
00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,080
Speaker 1: been out of practice, out of football shape for a year,

237
00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,360
Speaker 1: start to take his toll on him. After about forty

238
00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,480
Speaker 1: five to an hour, you know, a little bit of

239
00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,480
Speaker 1: little hands on the him. It's a little bending your knees,

240
00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,160
Speaker 1: a little bit real quick. But he came back the

241
00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,600
Speaker 1: second day and literally, man, you could see the burst.

242
00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,800
Speaker 1: Met me sitting next to you. You you said, man,

243
00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,880
Speaker 1: look at how quick his first step, lightning fast. Everything

244
00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,600
Speaker 1: about him screams playmaker. And when you see him in teams,

245
00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,839
Speaker 1: it was like he was playing with his food. It

246
00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,880
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't fair, right offensive line, but trying to

247
00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,800
Speaker 1: get to the second level on him, he's already gone.

248
00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,959
Speaker 1: He's at the at the ball carrier. There are a

249
00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,240
Speaker 1: few things that he does. I'm sure that George the

250
00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,760
Speaker 1: defensive assistant, George Edwards will clean up. But again, just

251
00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,199
Speaker 1: all in all, Man, I saw a playmaker and a

252
00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,800
Speaker 1: reason to be excited about this pick. Yeah. No, I mean,

253
00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,640
Speaker 1: first thing, right off the back, he didn't look like

254
00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,800
Speaker 1: he was two forty five. To me, he looked like

255
00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,199
Speaker 1: he was a little bit lighter. That's not to say

256
00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,280
Speaker 1: any anything major, but just looking at his numbers here,

257
00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,640
Speaker 1: he looked a bit a little bit lighter. But to

258
00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,199
Speaker 1: Heckman's point, as we were sitting there watching practice, you

259
00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,360
Speaker 1: could tell when he was uncertain because he looked like

260
00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,559
Speaker 1: kind of I don't want to say average guy. But

261
00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,120
Speaker 1: when he was decisive, you saw. You saw everything that

262
00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,240
Speaker 1: we've talked about leading up to the draft, right You

263
00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,840
Speaker 1: saw that burst, you saw the acceleration, You saw him

264
00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,679
Speaker 1: cover ground. And I know Heckman just talked about how

265
00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,040
Speaker 1: we were sitting there watching practice and there was one

266
00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,480
Speaker 1: time where he shot the gap and I was like,

267
00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,240
Speaker 1: oh crap, Like he got through there in quick, fast,

268
00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,440
Speaker 1: in a hurry. So I know, once he gets more

269
00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,360
Speaker 1: familiarized with this system, once he gets his paths on,

270
00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, it gets around the other guy starts getting

271
00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, good, a good sense of where he fits

272
00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,599
Speaker 1: in in this scheme. I'm gonna be really excited to

273
00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,439
Speaker 1: see this dude, you know, jump off the screen. We

274
00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,920
Speaker 1: need to get him on the show because I think

275
00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,000
Speaker 1: he likes movies. I can tell, and he'd be great

276
00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,640
Speaker 1: for the show because we dropped stupid movies to the time.

277
00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,960
Speaker 1: He said, you know, waterboys, Seaball, get ball. He talked

278
00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,199
Speaker 1: about being the mic linebacker's kind of like being Rambo.

279
00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,199
Speaker 1: He gets run big plays and what he kind of

280
00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,400
Speaker 1: described his role to a certain degree in terms of

281
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,560
Speaker 1: being in the box and then on third down, they're

282
00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,160
Speaker 1: going to find ways to get him to the quarterback.

283
00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,720
Speaker 1: And we saw some of that. We saw him rush

284
00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,560
Speaker 1: off the edge, we saw him getting around Josh Ball

285
00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,599
Speaker 1: off the edge, and he's got a real package of

286
00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,199
Speaker 1: skills that that's why Jerry. We bumped into Jerry after

287
00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,199
Speaker 1: the first practice and he just talked for a few minutes.

288
00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,120
Speaker 1: But he kept talking about pressure with the linebackers and

289
00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,840
Speaker 1: specifically with Parsons, just that part of his skill set

290
00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,359
Speaker 1: is something they can use and maybe make him compliment

291
00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,640
Speaker 1: some of the other linebackers. While we're talking about, Hey,

292
00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,719
Speaker 1: how all these guys are gonna get to play together? Yeah,

293
00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,680
Speaker 1: that was my next question is where did you see

294
00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,040
Speaker 1: him fitting in? And I feel like the answer right

295
00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,880
Speaker 1: now is everywhere. It's good, it's a good part of everywhere.

296
00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,719
Speaker 1: But where would where would you say he looked more comfortable?

297
00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,200
Speaker 1: And and I mean, once again, this is not gonna

298
00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,880
Speaker 1: be week one. We're seeing Michael Parson's pigeonholed here. That's

299
00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,760
Speaker 1: not gonna happen this rookie minicamp here. But where did

300
00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,440
Speaker 1: you see he looked more comfortable? Isaiah? I see him

301
00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,960
Speaker 1: fitting on on on the outside. I know they're working

302
00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,120
Speaker 1: him on at the middle linebacker during m You don't

303
00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,560
Speaker 1: like him as much at the MIC. I don't like

304
00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,840
Speaker 1: him at the mic. I don't want to I don't.

305
00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to put him in that box. I

306
00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,720
Speaker 1: personal wouldn't want to put him in that box. I

307
00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,080
Speaker 1: think he's probably Um the most athletic of the three

308
00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,880
Speaker 1: guys that we're gonna have as staples right between vander

309
00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,280
Speaker 1: Ash and Um and Jalen say, that's a pretty safe Yeah,

310
00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,440
Speaker 1: so I think I think you put pretty safe. I'll

311
00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,360
Speaker 1: put vander Esh in the middle right as we're just talking. Again,

312
00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,840
Speaker 1: we won't know until these guys get out there and

313
00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,440
Speaker 1: start playing together and seeing who who who responds and

314
00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,960
Speaker 1: how how they mesh. But um, just looking on paper

315
00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,840
Speaker 1: and looking at how he how he moved around this

316
00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,040
Speaker 1: past weekend, I would put him at the wheel just

317
00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,120
Speaker 1: and just give him that freedom, um to you know,

318
00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,520
Speaker 1: to come across on the backside. So yeah, athletic, athletic,

319
00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:06,200
Speaker 1: freaky um And dan Quinn has to be salivating knowing

320
00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,920
Speaker 1: how many different ways he can use this guy. Uh,

321
00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,640
Speaker 1: he can travel well. I mean whether it be middle

322
00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,600
Speaker 1: will edge. You saw him in practice when he rushed

323
00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,480
Speaker 1: off the edge. It was unfair. I mean he by

324
00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,880
Speaker 1: the time Josh Ball tried to turn to even kick

325
00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,720
Speaker 1: back out of his stands, he was already gone. And

326
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's not to say much. Obviously, these guys

327
00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,520
Speaker 1: were not in pads or anything like that. Again, the

328
00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,800
Speaker 1: initial burst you see it from him. I'm interested, Yeah,

329
00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see what they do. I mean,

330
00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,040
Speaker 1: working him at the mic. But you know, I think

331
00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,120
Speaker 1: McCarthy reference, you know, getting him comfortable just in the

332
00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,440
Speaker 1: boxing with the week side too. I'm curious with vander

333
00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,960
Speaker 1: Esh could they look at moving vander Esh to the

334
00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,400
Speaker 1: Will where and maybe these positions are more interchangeable than

335
00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm giving. But maybe maybe if you move later to Will,

336
00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,800
Speaker 1: maybe he's a little more covered up and he's not

337
00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,360
Speaker 1: taking as much of a pounding as he's been um

338
00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,880
Speaker 1: and and try to keep him healthier. So I don't know,

339
00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,760
Speaker 1: but I think you guys are right. I mean, I

340
00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,760
Speaker 1: think he can play a few different spots here. Yeah. Yeah,

341
00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,920
Speaker 1: when you even that argument about moving Latent to Will,

342
00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,880
Speaker 1: Jabril Cox comes into that conversation, and then the whole

343
00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:19,040
Speaker 1: dynamic of this argument changes. Man talked about it, Jabril Cox. Yeah,

344
00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get ahead. I know I can hear

345
00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,440
Speaker 1: burning from over here to the left. No, no, because

346
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,720
Speaker 1: we will talk about Cox coming up here in a

347
00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,840
Speaker 1: little bit. But I don't disagree. I think you can

348
00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,280
Speaker 1: look at these players as individuals and say, Okay, they

349
00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,440
Speaker 1: fit best in that spot, But then you look at

350
00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,760
Speaker 1: the whole situation in that linebacker room right now as

351
00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,760
Speaker 1: a whole you're gonna be really you have to find

352
00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,040
Speaker 1: the best fit together because right now you tried to

353
00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,760
Speaker 1: throw a bunch of individuals out there. You tried to

354
00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,520
Speaker 1: throw Jale's man try to throw late and vander as

355
00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,800
Speaker 1: shan Lee. That didn't work for you very well. So

356
00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,680
Speaker 1: it depends on how it's gotta mash man. It's got

357
00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,120
Speaker 1: to mash the right way. And if that takes putting

358
00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,640
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons at the mic linebacker and moving late vander

359
00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,600
Speaker 1: esh over to Will and then interchanging Jabril Cox where

360
00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,720
Speaker 1: he fits in, then maybe that is your best fit.

361
00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,840
Speaker 1: Maybe there is a fit there now. Talking about the secondary,

362
00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,200
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of good things about Israel Mukuamu

363
00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,800
Speaker 1: moving the safety and I think these are reps in

364
00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,359
Speaker 1: days that really would have benefited Reggie Robinson in that

365
00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,960
Speaker 1: move last year from cornerback as a fourth round pick

366
00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,600
Speaker 1: to safety later on in the season. I think these

367
00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,600
Speaker 1: days would have helped out a lot. And the fact

368
00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,880
Speaker 1: that I heard really good things about what Mukuamu brought

369
00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,000
Speaker 1: to the table really excites me about maybe the potential

370
00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,960
Speaker 1: of him coming out and at least getting playing time.

371
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's going to be a starter by

372
00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,159
Speaker 1: any means, but rob what did you see from what

373
00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,800
Speaker 1: Mukuamu said looked like at safety? After playing most of

374
00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,240
Speaker 1: his career at corner they had him back deep something

375
00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,280
Speaker 1: like he said, And I just liked the idea of

376
00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,040
Speaker 1: a corner move into that spot because they just they

377
00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,360
Speaker 1: need more of a ballhawk, a guy that can has

378
00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,760
Speaker 1: those ball skills to go make plays. That's one reason

379
00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,560
Speaker 1: why with dan Quinn's blessing, they signed to Monte Kazee

380
00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,960
Speaker 1: because he's got that. He's a guy that's played corner

381
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,400
Speaker 1: play safety, so I like that. He's got those super

382
00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,239
Speaker 1: long arms like we've heard about in the after see. Um,

383
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,240
Speaker 1: he's intriguing. He's intriguing, and he was in position to

384
00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 1: make a pick on day two. Heck I think it

385
00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,280
Speaker 1: went to Cox, but he was right there. Yeah. Um,

386
00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,560
Speaker 1: I cannot emphasize enough how athletic and ranging this guy is.

387
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,440
Speaker 1: And one of the things that just just jumped off

388
00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,840
Speaker 1: at me. It's just his movement, his ability to cover ground,

389
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,320
Speaker 1: he tracks well, I mean, all of the things that

390
00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,359
Speaker 1: you need. And a safety I said, it's safety. He

391
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,359
Speaker 1: does it well, especially in a single high uh set.

392
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 1: But sitting next to Buried Church, I mean it was

393
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 1: it was really cool to get his input on a

394
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,399
Speaker 1: guy like that just coming from the college ranks to

395
00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,480
Speaker 1: pro moving positions and just how well he moved and

396
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 1: his ability to just set his feet, step back and

397
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,879
Speaker 1: break on balls. I mean, this guy has he's someone

398
00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 1: right now. Is that you got to circle underlying the

399
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 1: highlight of everybody that we watched, he stood out the

400
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 1: most to me. Wow, Yeah, And I think I think

401
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,879
Speaker 1: heck can a little to that. When I when I

402
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,880
Speaker 1: mentioned that at practice the other day, he just kept

403
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 1: showing up every every time I looked up, and I

404
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 1: was like, there he goes again. Yeah, there he goes again.

405
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 1: And he just not only just because of his his

406
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,359
Speaker 1: size and stature obviously six four two twelve, as well

407
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 1: as it would you say to go go go, go

408
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 1: go gadgets. You got to go go gadgets. So you know,

409
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,160
Speaker 1: he got those long arms, but you know, more than anything,

410
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 1: his feet and the confidence that he has in his footwork.

411
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,200
Speaker 1: It's so apparent when you put guys out there, especially

412
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 1: when all the guys are out there fresh and their

413
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,680
Speaker 1: nerves or crazy, you could really tell whose fundamentals are sound.

414
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 1: You could really tell them when they're in that environment.

415
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 1: And he was just as confident and as comfortable as

416
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,119
Speaker 1: anybody else out there. We talked about Parsons being a

417
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 1: little little legitary day one you know we talked about

418
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 1: some of these. You know, we haven't got the Jabril cock. Yeah,

419
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 1: but some of these other guys just a little bit

420
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 1: nervous that I didn'tee not one nerve in Israel. I mean,

421
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 1: his his footwork was good, his hands were good coming

422
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 1: out the drills. I mean they were working those guys

423
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 1: over there and one on one drills and he was

424
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 1: killing it. Man. So he jumped off the page to

425
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 1: me um in a major way. And you know, we

426
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: haven't got to everybody else, but yeah, I like, I

427
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 1: like these dbs that we got. There's I mean in

428
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph, I'm sure played a pretty decent just real quick.

429
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 1: But I'm looking at the notes I had on Mukuamu

430
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 1: cowboys left labeling as a safety and a corner. Of

431
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: course we've seen what they already wanted to do with him. Now,

432
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 1: didn't run do that left hamstring? No issues there? Right, no, No,

433
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 1: So that's a huge plus. Uh, if he plays corner

434
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: or safety, false steps are going to be rampant on film,

435
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: or they are rampant on film. So the fact that

436
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about confidence and you're talking about fluidity with

437
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: his feet, that's positive. Direction. It may not be the

438
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 1: be all end all and he's going to be the

439
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: starter day one watch out, but a developmental guys. Huge, Yeah,

440
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: with with a lot of those physical traits. That's why

441
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: he was graded higher than six round where they gotten that.

442
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 1: They had him significantly higher than that. That's awesome. And

443
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 1: the fact that he's moving positions and he looks as

444
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,119
Speaker 1: fluid as he does, that's that's pretty impressive. We're going

445
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: to talk about Calvin Joseph coming up in our next segment.

446
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 1: We've got some Twitter questions in our mail bag Monday

447
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 1: to hit coming up on the other side, and then

448
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the offensive side of the ball and

449
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: the prospects on that side and how they looked in

450
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: rookie Minicamp. When we return here on Talking Cowboys presented

451
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: by Geico Honey, Big News Gary. Are you okay? Oh?

452
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm not Gary anymore. I'm Jackie Flash. What see? I

453
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: want the latest smartphone, but the best deals are only

454
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: for new customers. So to get a new customer deal,

455
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: I change my name to Jackie Flash. Okay, But the

456
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: best smartphone deals at AT and T are for everyone

457
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: new and existing customers. That's huge. Then guess who's getting

458
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: the deal. Is it Jackie Flash, Jackie Flash. It's not

459
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 1: complicated at at and t our best smartphone deals are

460
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: for everyone. Restrictions apply. Is it att dot com for details?

461
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: There's nothing as unique as our eyes, which is why

462
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: SLOR pioneers ways to make lenses as unique as you.

463
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: Very Lux for super sharp vision, Essential Blue for protect action,

464
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: I'm Krizol for freedom from glare. Three cutting ex solutions

465
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: in a single unique lens. So whatever your needs, insist

466
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: on selor. Visit your local sel or experts and find

467
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 1: a perfect lens for you to see more, Do more,

468
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: sor We're back in a tasty treat that's sweeping air

469
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: waves and taste buds. It's new Doctor Pepper and Cream Soda.

470
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen, Doctor peppe and Cream Soda. Is

471
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: he a new combo? Let's music to my ears? Okay,

472
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: doctor times, music to my ears and mouths New Doctor

473
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: Pepper and Cream Soda. Delics just do the Cowboys way,

474
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 1: where sixteen Hall of Famers and five championships shows us

475
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: what success looks like, Where turkey is always the second

476
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: best part of Thanksgiving Day, where we are all defined

477
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: by one single thing the star where we as fans

478
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: know it's our job to keep the tradition going. Bank

479
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: of America is proud to be the official bank of

480
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and to support the quest of living

481
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: life the Cowboys Way. Copyright twenty twenty Bank of America Corporation.

482
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: To talk in Cowboys, whether you're watching from home or

483
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: you're cheering in the stands. Without lore lenses, you can

484
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: see every exigning play book, an appointment at your local

485
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: or experts and see what esselor can do for you.

486
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: See more, do more, or as always on talking Cowboys

487
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: with our residence. Super Bowl champion Isaiah stand backs today. Yeah,

488
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: he didn't have it. This is the second week in

489
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: a row. There's no sun outside. True, there's a little

490
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: bit of son. You're right, it's pretty. It's been great.

491
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: You never heard the song I wear my sunglasses at night? Ever,

492
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: you know I've heard that. I'm not that cool. Oh yeah,

493
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm not that cow me. I mean, I know you

494
00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: guys ESPN and stuff over there. So I got no glass. Yeah,

495
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: Rob's got to get on that now. But I wear

496
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: myself man, like you know, I mean, come on, it's

497
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: not the difference here. No no, right, I was gonna

498
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: give that one. It was playing in my hand. I

499
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: was like, don't you say it? So mail Bag Monday,

500
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: as always, we've started this a couple of weeks back

501
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 1: on the off season edition of Talking Cowboys. We've got

502
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: our fans on the fifty and stuff in season, we've

503
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: got mail Bag Monday in the off season. And our

504
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: first question comes from Brandon and Isaiah kind of already

505
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: said it in terms of the individuals, but which rookie

506
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: showed out the most in practice bar none, who was

507
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: the one that caught your eye the most? Rob will

508
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: start with you, Parsons. Parsons, he had the whole Bobby

509
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: Bouchet thing going, seaball get ball, super impressive in terms

510
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: of I mean everything we heard about his explosiveness and

511
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: I know it's this tiny sample size and let's see,

512
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: but it was there on display. Heck, yeah, you know,

513
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: I want to I want to go. I have to say, Parsons,

514
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: because he did, you know, do some very impressive things.

515
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: But man, there's there's some other guys on here, man

516
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: that I gotta give some credit. And my man Na

517
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: Shan right, Na Shan right, Well, what did he do? Well?

518
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: We didn't get to talk about him in the first segment. Well,

519
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: I tell you the first day of rookie camp, he

520
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: was the ball in high grass analogy. He was that

521
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: footwork was bad and just again the nerves were probably

522
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: getting to him. But man, once they switched it to

523
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: a team, that was where you saw him shine. And

524
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: they're just certain things that he does innately with his size, hands, positioning,

525
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: all of it. Man, he just looked really well, I

526
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: mean looked good in coverage. And I just gotta say,

527
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: Cowboy fans, for everybody, you know, this is a family show.

528
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: We all are here together, Cowboy Nation. But I want

529
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: to ask y'all, how do you like your words? Serve?

530
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: Do you like it medium? Meetium rare? Because there's gonna

531
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: be some people would catch up on their words for

532
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: what they said. Right, I'm telling you you go out

533
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: to eat that man, because this guy, there is a

534
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 1: lot of people that would end up with catch up

535
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: on our wordsting. Myself, yeah, myself, Yes, I had him very,

536
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: very very low, and and once he was drafted, I

537
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: was very adamant about this and I said, I like

538
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: the player and I like the fit. I don't like

539
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: where they drafted him. But if he turns out and

540
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: he ends up being a baller, then yes, I will

541
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: eat my words. Well, I know I already mentioned that

542
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: I liked Israel in terms of an individual. In terms

543
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: of just overall talent, he looks really good to me.

544
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: But when it when it comes to the team, two

545
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: separate entities. Right when you come to the team, that's

546
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: when you see the competitiveness come out. Everybody didn't have

547
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: pads on. But like my guy Heck said, we sat

548
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: there and watched. I know everybody knows street Fighter, but

549
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: this dude Nash right, is I Honda because he had

550
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: them hands favorite comparison. He was putting these hands on them. Okay,

551
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: e Honda straight hands to the chest. And I know

552
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: we had an argument about this last week week before,

553
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: about you know, right after the draft, about how they

554
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: were going to utilize him and how you know, regardless

555
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: of how some people felt all they shouldn't have came

556
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: up and drafted him. As I mentioned, how they plan

557
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: on utilizing him in this defense on the fit that

558
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: he needs, that that they that they need. He fits

559
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: it perfectly because he's six four, he's coming up, he's competitive,

560
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: he's physical, and he all he needs to do is

561
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: get his hands on you for half a second, and

562
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks off him, the quarterbacks off that side, right

563
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: and if if the quarterback has four seconds to throw

564
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: the ball, shame on us, Shame on the entire defense.

565
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: But he is long and he's competitive, and I'm telling you, man,

566
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: he put his hands on everybody in the drills, and

567
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: he put his hands on some of these rooky receivers.

568
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: Is clamps, clamps, physical clamps. I mean it was it

569
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: was bad. Yeah, no, he had he has all of it.

570
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: I mean and again going back to the you know

571
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: draft experts that said that, look, he could have been

572
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: someone that should have dropped a lot lower in the draft.

573
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: He displayed as far as the system when they went man,

574
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: I mean, he was nose to nose with guys and

575
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: wanted it. Yeah, exactly, very physical at the line of scrimmage.

576
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: Even when they went zone. His ability to sit on

577
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: routes turned. I mean, hip work second day looked a

578
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: lot better. You see him in some individual drills. You'll

579
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: say whoa, whoa when it doesn't look too good. I

580
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: even said the same thing. I was like, oh, man,

581
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: Nation and you under pressure, brother, but when it came

582
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: to team, you just saw it, you know. He it's

583
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 1: like the light came on. Yeah, he's got a bit

584
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: of a magnifying glass on him because of where he

585
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: was taken. And that'll continue into training camp and Twitter

586
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: stuff too, that too, the things that popped up on

587
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: Twitter that night when he you know, he said, uh,

588
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: he said, I'm a more athletic version of Richard Sherman.

589
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: And it got Richard Sherman's attention with a gift that night.

590
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: And so it's good. No, I mean, it's fine. And

591
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: then he came out and he actually sent a DM

592
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: to rich and apologized. So that's all underneath and and

593
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, maybe that's part of it, you know, because

594
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: he did say that, And I like the confidence of

595
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: this class. Come on, if you don't have to do

596
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: you got that position, come on, now you got to.

597
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: But but again, what they're asking him to do, he's

598
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: perfect forward and everybody who had who has something to

599
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: say about them, come up to get him. You guys

600
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: don't understand football. And I think that's what he meant too.

601
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily the case. I would like

602
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: to I will, I will come back to your disagreement

603
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: because as six four defensive back, a six four cornerback

604
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: coming up in this system with dan Quinn, knowing dan

605
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: Quinn's history and playing man to man covers, knowing dan

606
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: Quinn's history of his front seven getting home and alleviating

607
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: his cornerbacks from having to play defense for that long,

608
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: he fits perfectly. Now, you don't need a shut down

609
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: corner in dan Quinn's system. Would you take one? App

610
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: so free, sately, But do you need one? No? No, no, no, no,

611
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not disagreeing with that. I think that

612
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense and I completely agree. But

613
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: you're saying that like if they went up and drafted

614
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: him and they had their value so high on a

615
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: player there that you don't know football. I think it's

616
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: the opposite, I guess, because it's more about the draft.

617
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: It's more about the draft and where you can get

618
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: guys because there, yeah, well listen here for a second.

619
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: The fit there is yes, because you keep interrupting me. Heckum.

620
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: So whenever you have that value there on your board

621
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: and you draft your board the right way, that's a

622
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: good thing. And they did that, So I don't disagree

623
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: with them. Taking Nashan right because he fit the scheme,

624
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: he fit their value. The only thing is that their

625
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: value of Nashan right was up here or the value

626
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: of every other team on nash Right. We didn't know,

627
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: but I do know. But that's exactly to my point, though,

628
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: what does he mean to you? It doesn't matter what

629
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: he means anybody else. I'm just because because if you

630
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: picked Tom Brady out of college, guess what. Tom Brady's

631
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: not that valuable to me. Michael vicksmore valuable to me

632
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: because the type of offense I plan on right. So

633
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what their capabilities are, It matters what

634
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: their capabilities are in your system. Well, you're you're saying

635
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: that they could have just waited because nobody else was

636
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: going to pick him till you don't know that. I agree.

637
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: You don't know that other teams had him rated as

638
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: a priority, which is probably the reason they took him

639
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: where they did, because they probably had something in their

640
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: ear saying Okay, he may not be there the next

641
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: time we come, or their board says we have a

642
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: third round grade on him, and stick we don't care.

643
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: We don't care what we don't care. Stick to your board.

644
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm I'm not combating the overarching pick

645
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: of Nashan Ryan. I'm combating when you said saying you

646
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: don't know football, the arguments. My argument today, I let

647
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: me retract that you don't know football statement. But but

648
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: let me let me let me hit a nerve I

649
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: did when I when I say, when I made that statement,

650
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: I was insinuating that you don't that most people who

651
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: believe that he was taking too high don't understand how

652
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: defense is it or just systems in general. Right, the

653
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: three phases of his game are formulated. So as I

654
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: talk about dan Quinn, listen up, you're you know, rob

655
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: out of everybody up here, I'm drafting Rob p Why

656
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: why draft to Rob you out everybody up here? Because

657
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: guess what, I don't need I don't need a safety,

658
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, like like you know, like

659
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: my guy Kyle, I don't need I don't need a

660
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: linebacker like my guy Heck. I need I need Rob

661
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: Pe because Rod PE's tall, he got long arm, and

662
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: guess what all I need him to do. I don't

663
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: need him necessarily cover the whole time, you know why,

664
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: because he's gonna have help over the top. What I

665
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: need him to do is get his hands on this

666
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: guy for the next for the next half second, one second,

667
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: just long enough to stay there. And if the quarterback

668
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: does decide to get throw the ball up there, guess

669
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: what he's so long he's in. He's in the wingspans

670
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: coverage away from this guy. The quarterback would be dog

671
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: on if he throws the ball up to somebody who's

672
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: six four, because he can. He has great balls. Deals

673
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: I'd get a great jam on then before I break.

674
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: All right, But yeah, so so I'm sorry if I

675
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: strugg enough there. But but people need to understand it's

676
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: people are valuable as valuable as you're willing to spend

677
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: on it. Right. So if I'm selling you my dog

678
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: on phone right now, guess what. You're not a Samsung guy.

679
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: You're an iPhone guy, So this doesn't it's not that

680
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: valuable to you, right. But if I find the Samsung

681
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: family member, guess what, they're gonna want this over your product.

682
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: So it's all about what you are to me, right,

683
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: what you are to mean, It doesn't matter about this

684
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: whole rating. Go get your guy. If it's all subjective

685
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: and you talk about drafting players and that's why these

686
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: guys get paid the big bucks to go out and

687
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: find guys that's gonna fit the system. And Nationwright fits perfectly.

688
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: He is a glitchy corner, meaning he will take and

689
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: he's aggressive, and he will take an opportunity to undercut.

690
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: He understands where help side is he He's aware, right

691
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: of all of those things you've seen tape on him

692
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: in college. And obviously with all of these guys, there's

693
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: there's the highlights in the low lights, and if I

694
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: go to his low lights, and maybe he has something

695
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: to learn from all of that a lot, right, that's

696
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: a lot. But but when you talk about his highlights,

697
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: what does he do well? He will jam you to

698
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: the gatoray buckets at the line of the scrimmage if

699
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: he gets his hands on you. So he fits perfectly

700
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: to what we do. And I'm excited. And the same

701
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: thing with that with our smaller guy, right, Joseph aggressive. Right,

702
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: he's not as long. But guess what, you got him

703
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: because you want him to cover. Maybe when you get

704
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: your best, the best receiver that steps on the field,

705
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: you want him to stick him. Yeah, right, that's why

706
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: you got him. He's a smaller guy. He's more a

707
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: lot more reactive, a lot quicker, and he's gonna be

708
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: right there, kind of sticky in your hit pocket type

709
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: of guy. That's not that's not what Nashan is. Nashan

710
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: has get my hands on you. If you throw a

711
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: ball up, I'm gonna make you pay for And he's

712
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: different than all the other corners and guys in the

713
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: secondary that you have. Anyways, it's a change of pace

714
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: and a lot of people really quickly here, rob But

715
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: going back to what your point was a little bit earlier,

716
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: of people upset about that pick and how it doesn't

717
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: fit and blah blah blah. A lot of people, at

718
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: least around this organization, they haven't had five top one

719
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: hundred picks, or at least four I guess, or what

720
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: was it, and it's being five. Yeah. So usually you

721
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: have that first round, second round, third round, and in

722
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: the third round you're picking a talented player that you

723
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: know is going to be a baller. You're not going

724
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: to pick a prospect. But he was the fifth selection

725
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: of this draft class, so you have more leeway of

726
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: picking a guy like Nashan right who you feel that

727
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: highly on. And even though you may think it's a

728
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: little bit of a risky take that pick at ninety

729
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: nine because he's a top one hundred player. Feel Like,

730
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people, not just in Cowboys,

731
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: running every other world out there, right, every team are

732
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: more concerned with just getting talent. Remember, they're more concerned

733
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: with getting talent than getting the right person for the scheme.

734
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: A lot of people are very scarred by that, and

735
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: that flipped the spot process here though, Like they're worried

736
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: that they don't have the talent and that they've draped.

737
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: And I only agree, and that's what I'm saying. That's

738
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: when you go out there and you get yourself a defense.

739
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: According you're like dan Quinn, you can throw a lot

740
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: of that stuff out the window because having a roster

741
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: just just fully talented, that doesn't mean nothing. We're not

742
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: in a game of football. We're not talking about basketball.

743
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: We're not talking about basketball. We're one of one or

744
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: two people could take over the whole game. We're talking

745
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: about people who fit systems right. Chemistry basically, Yeah, we're

746
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: talking about it something that requires you playing hip to

747
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: hip what you're what's your boy next to you? And

748
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: guess what If he doesn't do you do his job

749
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: and he doesn't do it to the highest level, the

750
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: whole team doesn't be they're not successful. And there are

751
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in Canton that fell into the

752
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: right scheme. Yeah. Absolutely, that played exactly to what they

753
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: do physically and mentally well as players. They couldn't have

754
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: been more lucky to be in the systems that they

755
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: were in. And I just feel like, and just going

756
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: to Joseph, one of the things I loved about watching

757
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: him is just his recovery speed. I think you know

758
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: a lot of cornerbacks again when you talked about Nation, right,

759
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that right, you know, you get by him.

760
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: He you know, even though he's a long strider, still

761
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: the speed isn't there the same as it is with

762
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: so powerful up front. Absolutely, and Joseph just has the

763
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: he can play those mind games that corners play where

764
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: you think he's not there and the ball is in

765
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: the air. He's right there. He's the past. You mentioned

766
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: his Mukamu's feet, That's what I noticed with Joseph. Yeah,

767
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: He's very fluid in terms of in those agility drills.

768
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: That's the thing I was I was really watching right

769
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: in those drills to see how fluid he was, change

770
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: the direction all that, because look, there there's a reason

771
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 1: why there aren't many six four corners in the league

772
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: because it's it's a hard position to play at that height,

773
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: you know. And and hey, Chris Rochard was here with

774
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: in the past with a similar philosophy bring in taller corners,

775
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: Chris Westry. They tried that, And so it doesn't always

776
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: work just because you're that size. But I just didn't

777
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: we didn't notice that he is more fluid than you

778
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: might think at that size. And you mentioned the ability

779
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: to press and be physical. He does have some trace

780
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: that you think maybe we can work with this and

781
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: maybe he can develop into a sault corner here. Man,

782
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: if Dan Quinn and this defense don't look better this year,

783
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of issues. That's I mean,

784
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: this is your last eight God, I hope. So I

785
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: mean we could go out there and maybe put Heckman

786
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: the nose, tackle Isaiah and I as safety. Yeah, we

787
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: can figure it out. Um. Offense, Yeah, let's let's turn

788
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: let's turn our attention a little bit to the offense.

789
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the offense in the next segment,

790
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: but the final question of mail bag Monday, offense and

791
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: defensive lines. How do you guys think think they shaped

792
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: up when you got to watch them on the field, Rob, Well,

793
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: they were from where I stood outside. They were at

794
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: the far end, so I didn't get a great look

795
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: at him until team drills. Um, but I'm interested in

796
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: certain guys for sure. Yeah, we talked about Bohannah and

797
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: he looks the part, and I think I think he's

798
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: got a chance to because of his unique skill set,

799
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: earn a job here and maybe he gets some snaps

800
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: now can he be The issue with him is can

801
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: he be a three down player? Does he provide enough

802
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: pass rush ability to give you that or did they

803
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: not care and just say, hey, for our scheme, we

804
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: need a guy in first and second now to come

805
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: in and stop the run. So maybe he's got a

806
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: chance to do that. Um Farniak their late round, seventh

807
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: round pick. Very interesting to see what they do with

808
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: him because he's played everywhere on offensive line, tackle, guard,

809
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: and center, and he was taking some snaps at center

810
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: over the weekend. So that's as a late round guy

811
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: in terms of value. Will McClay says, you got to

812
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: be able to do at least two things. He does

813
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: three four things. So he's an interesting guy to watch

814
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: as well. Where where did he take the majority of

815
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: his snaps? Center? Center? Wow, I think that's their their

816
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: their plan for him, at least for now. Interesting Okay, yeah,

817
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: Diggza also diggi zua to me, he you look at

818
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: his measurable as you think. Man, he looks a lot

819
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: bigger than you know than what they say is six

820
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: six one six two to seventy two eighty something like that, yeah,

821
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: two eighty two, but very explosive. One of the things

822
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: that I was able to recognize from him is just

823
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: his explosiveness and when he was working individually with Dan Quinn,

824
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: able to mirror mirror what he was being taught, I mean,

825
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of just teaching the mechanics

826
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: of getting in your stands, coming out of your stands,

827
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, what you do hand motion, hand in fighting,

828
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: things like that, And when going back and forth with Quinn,

829
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: I thought that was really intriguing, just the way that

830
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: Quinn was so hands on with him and his teaching techniques.

831
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: And you can't help but his enthusiasm is just contagious

832
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: and you could tell that those defensive linemen were just

833
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: taking it all in because, like you said, once two

834
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: of days and the veterans come in, they won't get

835
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: that one on one. But when you get that now,

836
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: especially in the minicamp situation like they had, man, it

837
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: was just really cool to see his interaction. Asked Quinn

838
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: at the draft or you're gonna be hands on, because

839
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: that's one thing honestly with Mike Nolan, you didn't really

840
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: see and and and what you hear about Dan Quinn

841
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: as he is a teacher. And he said, yes, I

842
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: will be and I'll be damned if he didn't take

843
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: a couple reps and nose tackle in practice after Bohannah

844
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: kind of tweaked his shoulder for a second there and

845
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: got back in. There's good, good footage of Dan Quinn

846
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: working with Oh Diggi Zhua there. Now, Oh Digi Zoo

847
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: makes me scared for my guy Bradley and I and

848
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: his job because last year they took the late round,

849
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: later round and draft pick and they had shorter arms

850
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: at the edge lot and a little bit slower and

851
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 1: then get Diggi Zoa just have these massive arms, eighty

852
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: four inch wingspan and then he also has this, like

853
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: you said, the explosiveness. I mean his shuttle his broad

854
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: jump were both higher in the class than anybody. I mean,

855
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: Chauncey Golston is a guy right there too. He is

856
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: the long I mean his arms. It's like he's scratching

857
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: his ankle standing in the Allies. Big guy. He's got

858
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: some long arms and he's just a big guy. They

859
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: had him lined up like in a wide nine, and

860
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: just his how easy he was in and out of

861
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: his stands. You could tell man guys like Bradley and

862
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: not a lot of those draft picks from last year,

863
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: the pressure is going to be on them. Yeah, the

864
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: competition is going to be there. I'm excited to see

865
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: Golston in person too, because I liked him on tape

866
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: a lot and he was one of those guys and

867
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier, but he stuck out while I

868
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: was watching other IOWA players, and usually that You're like, Okay,

869
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: what is this guy doing? What was he doing? So

870
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him in person. I'm a jealous

871
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: you guys got to But also the offense, I'm jealous you.

872
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's from the beach for a week. I could

873
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, look at that. I got a little tent. Yeah,

874
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: you want to see if we could get the watching

875
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: a little tangerine? Get this on the on the camera

876
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: right here on a nope, maybe there we go. Bam,

877
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: look at that? Is that what you were? What? Good? Lord? Yes,

878
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: it's nuts man outside of the very yeah. Right, oh gosh,

879
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: it was terrible. All right, we're gonna take our second break.

880
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're talking about the offense. What

881
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: did the offense rookies show during minicamp? When we return

882
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: on talking Cowboys. Hi, I'm Clint Tillison with you United

883
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: aggin Turf. When there's work to be done, a real

884
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: workhorse can make all the difference, like the Range Boss package.

885
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: Our fifty seventy five E John Deere seventy five horsepower

886
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: tractor features a bell, spear and loader and starts at

887
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 1: three sixty nine per month. And the price you see

888
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: is the price you'll pay. No surprises. It works like

889
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: a horse, so you don't have to visit United Agginturf

890
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: dot Com offers February first, twenty twenty one. Restrictions applying

891
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: see dealer for details. Now let's get to work, honey,

892
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: big news. Gary, Are you okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore.

893
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm Jackie Flash. What see? I want the latest smartphone.

894
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: But the best deals are only for new customers. So

895
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: to get a new customer deal, I changed my name

896
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: to it Jackie Flash. Okay, But the best smartphone deals

897
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: at AT and TA for everyone, new and existing customers.

898
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: That's huge. Then guess who's getting a deal. Is it

899
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: Jackie Flash, Jackie Flash. It's not complicated at AT and

900
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 1: t our best smartphone deals are for everyone. Restrictions apply.

901
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: Is it att dot com for details? Want to use

902
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: what the pros use? How about the official men's skincare

903
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: brand of the Dallas Cowboys, Jack Black. Right now you

904
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: can get the Jack Black Starter, a curated collection of

905
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys locker room favorites, for just ten bucks with free shipping.

906
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: The starter includes four Jackflack skincare favorites, plus a full

907
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: sized and tense therapy lip bomb. Go to get Jack

908
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: Black dot com slash Cowboys and use the code word

909
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: team JB. That's get Jack Black dot com slash Cowboys.

910
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: The Jack Black Starter ten bucks, free shipping since eighteen

911
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: sixty five. Stetson hats are American maid with pride right

912
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: here in Texas, and Stepson is proud to be on

913
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: the field with America's team. Want to show your Texas

914
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: and Team pride two? You can by purchasing your own Stepson.

915
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: You can look just like how the flag guys do

916
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: on field at every home game. Stetson Hats the official

917
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: crown of all self respecting Cowboys and your favorite foot

918
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: old team. Get yours today at shop dot Dallas Cowboys

919
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: dot com or at Stetson dot com to talk in Cowboys.

920
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, heck buh what your wife has a different

921
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: assignment for me this week? What? Dallas Cowboys Football and

922
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Dance Youth Camps are back this summer

923
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: for athletes and dancers of all skill levels. Two and

924
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: three day camps are available at at and T Stadium

925
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: in the Star in Frisco. Sponsor limited register today at

926
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com Slash Academy. Just go ahead and

927
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: tell us. And it's like a symphony in my head. Kyle,

928
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: you can't even argue with that nod. You shooting discouragement

929
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: on It's like, well, it was funny. In the emails,

930
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: she like made it very specific She was like, make

931
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: sure you read this one because I know every day

932
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: it was good job though, that was a good one.

933
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: He just go mute, like the heck he did? Yeah?

934
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: Just look just deflation. Hey man, that's that's seventeen years

935
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: of marriages. Nicki's the best. Shout out to Nikki. I

936
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: know she's probably upstairs. All right. What about the offense, gentlemen,

937
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: because there's a lot to talk about in terms of

938
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: pressure for the offensive players. Because defense it's a different

939
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: type of pressure. Offense, you're trying to make the team.

940
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: Defense you have to contribute in immediately, so it's a

941
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: different type of pressure. Who stood out among the rookies,

942
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: good or bad? Isaiah? We're gonna start with you, my friend.

943
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really excited about these offensive alignement. Uh,

944
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: there's a reason why he's he's he's okay, I'm just

945
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and say it. So he's early. It's

946
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: very early, Ricky bacap nerves, right, guys have been training

947
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: for the combine. Guys aren't really in football. Um, there

948
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: is a receiver that we drafted. Who your guy? There's

949
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: only one guy that was my guy. I was not

950
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: super Please run the film Okay, I wasn't. I'm not

951
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: high on Noah Brown either, okay either well like Brown

952
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: anyways out of Stanford. UM large gentleman, six four two

953
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: undred and twenty two pounds is what it says on

954
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: a paper. Very large. Um. I don't believe that he

955
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: came in at two hundred and twenty two pounds. He's heavier.

956
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: I think he came in heavier than two hundred and

957
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: twenty two pounds. Um. If he's not heavier than twenty

958
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty two pounds, he he ran like

959
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: he was heavier. Um. Again, all I can I can

960
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: say right now is what I saw right Um. He

961
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: did not look very fluent to me. Wow. Um. He

962
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: did not appear to be a fifth a guy competing

963
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: for a fourth or fifth string. Uh, you know, fourth

964
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: or fifth on the depth chart at the resistent position. Um.

965
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: In order to in order to be competing at that spot,

966
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: you have to be able to do special teams. And

967
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: I was explaining the heck man, I was watching practice.

968
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: You know, those special teams periods really exposed guy's ability

969
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: to burst, sink your hips, get in and out of

970
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: your brakes, adjust to you know, change directions. And I

971
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: didn't see that mobility out of semi. Now he has

972
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: a lot of weeks to get ready for camp and

973
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: maybe he comes back and shows something different. Maybe he's

974
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: a different player with pads on as well. But just

975
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: from what I saw this weekend, I was not very impressed.

976
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: There was another gentleman that they brought in to compete

977
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: with him, Brennan eagles all the Texas guys. I liked

978
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: him really. When I compared both of those guys together,

979
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: those guys are pretty much the same height, same size,

980
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: same same weight. Brennan had much better feet. I think

981
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: Simi's faster, just top line speed, trade ahead speed. I

982
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: do agree with that. But Brennan in and out of

983
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: his brakes was a lot more fluent and natural, and

984
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: also in special teams drills, he was a lot more

985
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: natural and seemingly wanted to be in those drills versus Simmi.

986
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: I didn't get that vibe. Where did t J. Vasher,

987
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: the Texas tech Wide receiver fit into that conversation? Another

988
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: big body guys. They're all big. I mean, you could

989
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: tell they're targeting a specific type of player, and it's

990
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: a big, stout receiver and for Hoko, Eagles, Fashier all

991
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: fit that category and it's going to be an extra

992
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: competition between them three. And then also Noah Brown. That's

993
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: why we talked about Nolah Brown was because that's the

994
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: guy they're trying to replace there. But where do you

995
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: where do you see heck out of those three guys

996
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: for Hoko, Vasher and Eagles, did you have the same

997
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: kind of observation that Isaiah did? Uh? Yeah, I did.

998
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: And you know Eagles from Texas just was his movements

999
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: more athletic? You know, his athleticism was there. And you

1000
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: talk about the special teams just breaking down readjustin opening

1001
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: your hips, things like that, it just seems like he

1002
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: had a better grasp on those things. Talk about t

1003
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 1: J Vassar big six six, I know, but again, even

1004
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: for his size and the way that he was coming

1005
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: in and out of routes, didn't look like he was

1006
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: stiff or you know that big at all. A guy

1007
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: that I had you know stars next. His name is

1008
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: brand Smith six one, two hundred and eighteen pounds from Iowa.

1009
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: He's a guy they really liked. Oh yeah, I mean,

1010
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: but but looked really good. Yeah, real smaller though, right, Yeah,

1011
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: smaller guy. Yeah, smaller guy. He's still to watch. Smaller yeah,

1012
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: smaller to eighteen. But you know ran, you know, athleticism, speed,

1013
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: all of that stuff was there. But going back to Fork,

1014
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, position wise, you're looking

1015
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: at him as an h back, tight end style of

1016
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: a guy. Don't know anything about him from a blocking standpoint.

1017
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: I kept looking at my papers saying that, you know,

1018
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: he's a deep threat at Stanford. You know, maybe the

1019
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: pack twelp that you played in was excuse me, it's

1020
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: not twelve. It's a little different back twelve. Now it's twelve.

1021
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: So they added two more. Okay, my bad, But either way,

1022
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: it was a lot different back when you play a

1023
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: different name, the deep threats are a little a little

1024
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: bit off man. Yeah, I mean you're right. I mean

1025
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: he's not like a earner down in the field, but

1026
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: he I think he did average like fifteen yards of

1027
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: catch for them, and people when you talk to people

1028
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: about him, he was clutched too for them, like when

1029
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: they in big games and when they needed big plays.

1030
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: He just kind of has that it factor like he

1031
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: would go make a play for him. Now I'm going

1032
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: to defer to the wide receiver of the show Isaac

1033
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: because Isaiah knows exactly what he's talking about. But I

1034
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: will say about him, he's an older prospect. I think

1035
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: he's twenty four. He had a religious mission that he

1036
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: took and then he finished up at Stanford. But he

1037
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: only played like twenty two games at Stanford, so he

1038
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: hasn't a fresh Yeah, he hadn't played a whole lot

1039
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: of college. And I actually asked him because of what

1040
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: we talked about during press, said, you know, what do

1041
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: you need to work on? And he said, I was

1042
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: a deep threat guy in college, but I need to

1043
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: round out my game, getting in out of my brakes.

1044
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: He talked about being he's basically raw. So I think

1045
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: they view him as a guy that's you know, I

1046
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to compete to be in

1047
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: the rotation year one, but they see that potential if

1048
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: he can make the team as a special teams guy.

1049
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: And that's that. And that's where the conversation and kind

1050
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: of led when Heck but I were sitting there because

1051
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: we understand that he's raw. He's young him and he's

1052
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: young in terms of actual experience. Um, he has a

1053
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 1: lot to work on because when they went to team,

1054
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: and it was exposed now and they went the team.

1055
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: It was it was really exposed when Nashan Wright came

1056
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: and lined up. Heck Man and I both sat up

1057
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: and said, okay, here we go. You know, six four

1058
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: verse six four, let's go and all you hear that

1059
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: hands on the chest. And he did it one time

1060
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: and he didn't get off the ball. And then they

1061
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: came back the next time and they lined up again,

1062
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: and then you could tell he was like, I'm big,

1063
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm strong. All I know how to do was go forward.

1064
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: And it reminded me of myself when I first got here.

1065
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: I didn't even know a dog on thing about receiver, right.

1066
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to get off the ball. I

1067
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: didn't know how to, you know, get somebody's hands off me.

1068
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: So all I try to resort to revert to was

1069
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: just pure brute strength strength. And that didn't work either,

1070
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: because Nashan just threw him into the ground and the

1071
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: quarterback through the ball and guess what, it's the next down.

1072
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: So he again, it's early, Um, he has a lot

1073
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: of time to get ready. I'm sure he'll learn from

1074
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: the Vets, He'll learn from the coaches, I'm sure the

1075
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: film will be you know, highly highly reviewed. Um, but

1076
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: he has a long way to go to to feel

1077
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: that void of what they're trying to, you know, use

1078
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: to replace Nora Brown. I don't I don't ask right now,

1079
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: which is again a long ways away. Noah Brown's leaps

1080
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: and bounds about where he's at. They played each other

1081
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: in college, right. Yeah, Well, I was about to say

1082
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: that that's kind of surprising for me to hear because

1083
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: some of the tape that we looked at with Nashan,

1084
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: right was him getting burnt by Semi Phoko in the

1085
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: in state Tampa. You know what, he must have really

1086
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: nah took that personal because cats don't forget, especially don't forget.

1087
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: They don't care pass or not. They don't care as

1088
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: the opportunity to embarrass you. Yeah, so I mean, you know, hey,

1089
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: maybe he turns it around, but just again, this is

1090
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: just our first eyes on him, and uh, I was

1091
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: that I wasn't impressed there. I'm trying to find the

1092
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: stats on what happened that game specifically, because I never

1093
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: looked at the stats. I was just looking at the film. Um,

1094
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 1: what about the quarterbacks? We got to see a little

1095
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: bit of I mean there were two guys there with JT.

1096
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: Barrett of course out of Ohio state than Brady Davis.

1097
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: Any possibility that we will defer to the quarterback slash

1098
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: receiver ten fastest man in the Pac ten Yeah, so respectfully,

1099
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: respectfully when we put that out there, Brady Davis, no, no,

1100
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: no chance. Um. JT. Barrett had to swag, and he

1101
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: had a lot of swag. And um, he could tell

1102
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: he's athletic, but he has a very low release, a

1103
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: very low release. Um. He meaning that he drop, he drops,

1104
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: he drops. Well, Brady Davis has like a Byron Leftwich

1105
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: type release. I mean it's long, windy, but he doesn't

1106
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: have the velocity that comes out like Byron Leftwich. So

1107
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: he sailed a lot of balls, even just an individual drills.

1108
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: He didn't look confident when he had a lot of

1109
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: a lot of intricate footwork, he didn't look confident in

1110
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: that either. So I'll put Brady Davis to the side. Um.

1111
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: J JT. Barrett obviously a lot more athletic. Um, but

1112
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: again I'm not sure based upon what I saw about

1113
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: his accuracy. Um, And you know he has a swag,

1114
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: he has athleticism him, he has every reason to be

1115
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: feeling good because he can run away and run himself

1116
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: out of situations. But um, he has to really work

1117
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: on their release. And we saw it. We saw an

1118
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: individual drills. You know, he was selling stuff where there's

1119
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: no dbs, you know, just because his elbows dropped and

1120
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: you could see him. I was telling I was telling, heck,

1121
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: he has to get his release up. And then what

1122
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: do you see him doing? He was at the word

1123
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: try trying to work and get his arm. Stuff that

1124
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: you that you got to work on before you show

1125
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: up for camp. Many by the way, sidme six receptions

1126
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: one hundred yards versus Nashan right in that Stanford ballers. Yeah,

1127
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: maybe he's just a gamer. Does that go into Sorry, Rob,

1128
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: go for it. No, that was I agree with you, guys.

1129
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was gonna ask you does

1130
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: that go into camps like this? And it may not,

1131
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: because it's the pros. It's you either figure it out

1132
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: in practice or you don't. But do you take stock

1133
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: if you go back and you go and talk to

1134
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: the Stanford coaching staff, you say, send me just a

1135
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: pure gamer? Or is he not a good practice guy?

1136
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: Because we've had guys here that are not good practice. Yeah,

1137
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: does that factor in at all of where they value

1138
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: specific players, especially some of these project guys or is

1139
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: it more of just show up and ball out? I

1140
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: hope I hope that they don't take take consider rational

1141
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to you gotta practice. Mean, you

1142
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: practice a lot more than you play. That's anybody you practice,

1143
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: unless you Randy Moss at the end of your career,

1144
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: you practice a lot more than than you play. So

1145
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to come out and show what

1146
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: you're capable of doing. Um And unless you're just that

1147
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: guy that's getting paid that much money, you don't have

1148
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: to show anything in practice, but everybody else you gotta

1149
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: show it. And when you're fighting for a number four,

1150
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: number five receiver position, you better show it, and you

1151
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: better show it on special teams. And you know you

1152
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: have to show that urgency as well. You gotta want

1153
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: to be on special teams. You can't let your you know,

1154
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: coach Fossil be out there running around more hype than

1155
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: you are. You gotta be that dude when you know

1156
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: that you're scraping the bring trying to get that last spot,

1157
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: you better be dog on hype. Now, you know when

1158
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: you're doing those coverage drills, whether you have pads on

1159
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: or not, you better be hyped like that used to

1160
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: be some of the most exciting parts of practice for

1161
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: me because I knew that's how I was making the

1162
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: dog on team. It was gonna be on special teams.

1163
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: So guess what I needed to click tight with the

1164
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: special team's coach. I needed him to see me. I knew,

1165
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: whether we're watching pads or no pads, I need to

1166
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: jump off the film. And some of these guys you

1167
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: saw it. Some of these guys you didn't. You could

1168
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: tell by their approach that some guys understood that versus

1169
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: some guys did it. Maybe it's because they got Some

1170
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: guys got drafted and they just feel that confident that

1171
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna be here. Hopefully they needed they need to

1172
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: change their mindset. If that's the case, well, if the

1173
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: bar for hype is fossil, then you better drink some.

1174
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: I have here in my notes. I have in my

1175
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: notes for Hoko should be welded to the hip of

1176
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: bones fossil. That's the only way you know he's got it.

1177
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: He's got to pick that up. But in defense of

1178
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, man they were playing in a wind tunnel.

1179
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: That Friday and Saturday was probably two of the windiest

1180
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: days here with the storms approaching. Maybe, but I mean, man,

1181
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to give him an excuse. It was

1182
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: and I like, we were up on a deck and

1183
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: it felt like everest, you know, up top in terms

1184
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: of the wind, But I don't know if it was

1185
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: the same on the field. But you're right. And the

1186
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: other thing too, is in terms of the talent disparity.

1187
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there are three drafted guys on

1188
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: offense that we're out there out of thirty one and

1189
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: the rest were you talked about. We talked about all

1190
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: the defensive guys they draft. That was the emphasis in

1191
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: the draft. You saw that when they did do the

1192
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: team stuff. You know, you saw and usually at this

1193
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: time of year and we get into training camp, it's

1194
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: more of a defensive has an advantage early anyway, Sure

1195
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: and quickly. Uh Josh ball Um six eight, big guy,

1196
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, had a good for US day, second day

1197
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: and team not so much. But again he was in

1198
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: situations where he was man man up on and it's

1199
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: hard for X. It's hard to get a beat on offensive,

1200
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: defensive alignment with no pans exactly. It's just impossible. That's

1201
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: kind of one thing I was about to say. And two,

1202
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean you think about it with with Ball and Farniak.

1203
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are going up against Gholston, Digizoo,

1204
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: going again. They're going up against other draft picks rep

1205
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: after rep after rep. Whereas the rotation isn't necessarily the same.

1206
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: On the other side, you're going up against a drafted

1207
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: player than an undrafted undrafted drafted player. It just kind

1208
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: of changes up back and forth. So I can see

1209
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: how it could be really tough to and even in

1210
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: training camp, it's hard to show exactly what an offensive

1211
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: line looks like. Last year when we were talking about

1212
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line, it was like, Okay, they don't necessarily

1213
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: look great, but they're also not healthy, and then of

1214
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: course they never really ended up getting healthy, so it

1215
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: was hard to kind of get that feel. But overall,

1216
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: thumbs up their thumbs down of many many camps this year,

1217
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good. We were in the building, Kyle, what

1218
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: are you talking about? You said you were up on

1219
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: a on a on a balcony. Were you over across

1220
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: the way? Yeah, the media was city was parched up. Yeah, yeah,

1221
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean Peg and I were in a porter potties

1222
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: basically on top with some binocular better than I did.

1223
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: Good thing you had the sunglasses on that time. Now

1224
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: we were inside a porter potty. I didn't eat them.

1225
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: Oh gross. Yeah, talk about bubble guts, that's exactly what

1226
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: that is. Uh So, what's next, Rob, what's on the

1227
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: schedule coming up for the next couple of weeks, because

1228
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: we got a little bit of a break, right, Yeah, well, yeah,

1229
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: they're in phase two right now, so on the field stuff,

1230
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: but not you know, offense defense yet OTAs in a week. Yeah,

1231
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: and I think they're on schedule for six of them.

1232
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: You can have as many as ten, six and then

1233
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: the mini camp. And I wonder if they're only doing

1234
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: six for now on schedule just because they got to

1235
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: go to camp early. So you want them to guys

1236
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: to get off their feet half a few weeks off

1237
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: before they do it. So we'll see. But hey, we're

1238
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: going to see the Vets here pretty soon. Any news

1239
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: on Oxnard and or Frisco. Jerry says it's on track

1240
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: for Oxtard, of course, that's what he said over the weekend.

1241
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: Kind of what we all have to go buy it.

1242
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: Isn't it not final yet? But yeah, you just listen

1243
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: to that guy talking about whichever one he went on one,

1244
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Jerry. Yeah, hopefully we do end up

1245
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,959
Speaker 1: doing that. Man, we would have a lot of people

1246
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: to catch up to on at Oxnard if that's the case.

1247
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: So that should be a ton of fun. But that's

1248
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: it for us here on Talking Cowboys. Hope you learned

1249
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: something and enjoyed the last where it was a ton

1250
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: of fun for us here from inside the Star for

1251
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand Back, heck My Harrison, Chris Beam

1252
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: in the backup, Kyle Yeoman saying so long, We'll see

1253
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: you next week on Talking Cowboys. This has been a

1254
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys

1255
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: Football Club.