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Speaker 1: now go home. The Trump administration wants to give illegal

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Speaker 2: Self deport What a bargain. Of course, not.

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Speaker 1: Every illegal alien will be eligible for that deal, and

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing these alleged gang members who got into a

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Speaker 1: Four of them are now in custody, with a hunt

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Speaker 1: strikes back hard at the Huti terrorists who fired a

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Speaker 2: Used by the Huti terror group.

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Speaker 1: Hey, now that student loan payments are due again, the

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Speaker 1: all had more than a week in Rome to discuss

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Speaker 1: their choices already. American Sunrise Early Edition begins now.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition, the show where faith, freedom,

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Speaker 3: and the values that built this nation takes centers.

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Speaker 1: Your good, thieves and bad deeds. That's how we're gonna

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Speaker 3: Join host Jake Novak as he breaks down the stories

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Speaker 2: He will be letting the public know regularly what we

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Speaker 3: American Sunrise Early Edition with your host, Jake Novak starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition. I'm Jake Novak.

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Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday, Jerry Seinfeld said, the Tuesday has

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Speaker 1: So let's give yourself, ourselves a feel for this day

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Speaker 1: with some of the big stories that have been going

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Speaker 1: our great guest Virginia Allen. She's a senior editor, senior producer,

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Speaker 1: i should say, at the Daily Signal, and the host

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Speaker 1: of their Problematic Women podcast, Very very problematic. I want

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Speaker 1: to get your take first, Virginia on what I think

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Speaker 1: is big news. Listen, you know you keep coming back

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Speaker 4: This, Well, it had to happen. There had to be

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Speaker 2: Or Hey, Virginia, let's shift overseas.

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Speaker 1: You just got back from a working trip to Israel,

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Speaker 1: We now know that the conclave to elect the next

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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Novak Special Welcome to those of you on

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Speaker 1: they rely heavily, heavily on foreign produced productions, stuff that

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Speaker 1: even looks like it might be American produce, but it's

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Speaker 1: actually filmed elsewhere. If you know anything about what's going

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Speaker 1: they have been dealing with massive layoffs.

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Speaker 2: There's been a major cut in use.

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Speaker 1: And because these streamers, for one thing, are dominating the

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Speaker 1: TV shows and TV series and bingeable stuff from overseas

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Speaker 1: or stuff that's even produced in Canada. This is something

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Speaker 1: that might actually help the Hollywood industry, which is so

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Speaker 1: so anti Trump, might actually get a major shot in

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Speaker 1: the arm from President Trump. Not the bosses, not the

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Speaker 1: studio chiefs, but the people who work in this industry.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, that is for people who know

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Speaker 1: anything about a movie crew, those are really the true

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Speaker 1: professionals in Hollywood. You can say what you want about

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Speaker 1: the politics of the people who write and produce those movies,

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Speaker 1: but the people who work on those sets, the people

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Speaker 1: who make the costumes, the people behind the camera, those

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Speaker 1: are blue collar Americans who deserve not to have their

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Speaker 1: jobs taken away by someone in a foreign country. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Now another episode of Jake Novak Unemployable Political Consultant. This

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Speaker 1: one is all about student loans, folks. We just found

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Speaker 1: out that student loans are now being collected again. Delinquent

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Speaker 1: student loans were on a freeze because of COVID for

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Speaker 1: quite some time. Yesterday was the day we started to

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Speaker 1: collect them. Now, when that freeze was in place, we

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Speaker 1: knew about five million of those accounts were in default

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Speaker 1: major default. Now it's more than ten million. We know,

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Speaker 1: and I know some mean Here's where my unemployable political

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Speaker 1: consultancy skills come in. Now again, the reason why I'm

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Speaker 1: unemployable is because I give good advice. I'm convinced that

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Speaker 1: political consultants on both sides of the fence in this

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Speaker 1: country give bad advice, which is why we have so

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Speaker 1: much bad government Anyway, the Republicans have decided a lot

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Speaker 1: of Republicans and conservatives I think are being tremendously misguided

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Speaker 1: and deciding that yesterday's news is a good opportunity to

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Speaker 1: bash current students or recent grads who can't pay their

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Speaker 1: student loans and talk about how stupid they are for

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Speaker 1: taking a major that won't get them a job that

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Speaker 1: will pay them enough money to pay off their loans.

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Speaker 1: I get it, I understand why that's kind of a

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Speaker 1: fun joke. But if you're a politician, or if you're

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Speaker 1: posting on social media.

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Speaker 2: Why would you do that.

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Speaker 1: The reason why I'm asking is because they're really not

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Speaker 1: the culprits here.

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Speaker 2: Yes they are the dupes, maybe you.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to invest with them, but the culprits of

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Speaker 1: the colleges themselves who have used the governmental rules of

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Speaker 1: guaranteed student loans to price gouge the American people for years.

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Speaker 1: These colleges have been ripping us off, not just the

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Speaker 1: young kids now and the recent grads, but all of us.

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Speaker 2: Aim your fire at them.

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Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why Republicans don't do this

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Speaker 1: the ones in Congress. I mean is because they also

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Speaker 1: want their little kids to go to Harvard and Yale too,

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Speaker 1: even though they bash them sometimes in public. The truth

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Speaker 1: is they don't put their money where their mouths are.

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Speaker 1: With the exception of a couple of people like Josh

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Speaker 1: Hawley and Chuck Grassley who for years been talking about

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Speaker 1: taxing endowments, I support that.

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Speaker 2: Folks.

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Speaker 1: These colleges are ripping us off. Stop making fun of

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Speaker 1: the kids who have to work at Starbucks. Yes, they

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Speaker 1: made a bad decision, but again they were duped. Aim

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Speaker 1: your fire at the right place. If you're a politician

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Speaker 1: listening to me again, you probably won't hire me as

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Speaker 1: a consultant because you apparently only want bad advice. But

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Speaker 1: this is good advice. Focus on the colleges period. Okay,

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Speaker 1: getting back to tariffs. How bad are the tariffs hitting China?

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Speaker 2: Already? Good luck finding out, because it.

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Speaker 1: Turns out that the Beijing regime has simply started to

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Speaker 1: simply stop issuing many economic reports that it used to.

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Speaker 2: They're just not telling us. This is especially true for

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Speaker 2: crucial segments of.

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Speaker 1: Their economy, or any economy, like the real estate market.

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Speaker 1: So watch that very very closely, all right, there's.

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Speaker 2: Been an interesting move in the shoe industry. I want

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Speaker 2: to get you this deal.

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Speaker 1: A private equity firm, it's called three G Capital is

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Speaker 1: buying Sketchers for more than thirty percent more per share

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Speaker 1: than it was trading for just on Friday. That's a

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Speaker 1: nice deal for Sketcher shareholders. Congratulations. The company is going

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Speaker 1: to take Sketchers privates, so you won't be able to

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Speaker 1: buy Sketcher shares on the New York Stock.

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Speaker 2: Exchange anymore in a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Expect more deals like this and privatization, in other words,

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Speaker 1: taking things off of the stock market in response to

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Speaker 1: the tariffs, because there may be some short term pain

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Speaker 1: for companies that stock investors don't want to deal with,

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Speaker 1: and then maybe they'll take it back public when that

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Speaker 1: is over.

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Speaker 2: It might be a work. It might be a good idea.

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Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, start your engine.

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Speaker 1: Viewers who follow the electric car industry know that electric

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Speaker 1: cars are a bigger financial strain on our power grids

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Speaker 1: and roads, a big one. Those cards are heavier, They

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Speaker 1: cause a lot of strain on our bridges and our roads.

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Speaker 1: They make our infrastructure more expensive. So what do House

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Speaker 1: Republicans want to do? They want to add a two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars charge to every EV.

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Speaker 2: Owner's tax bill to help cover the cost.

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Speaker 1: And of course, some greenee groups and Democrat groups have

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Speaker 1: come out with some reports saying that two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty dollars is too much and YadA, YadA, YadA. Look,

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Speaker 1: the EV chargers alone costs a lot of money. We

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Speaker 1: know that the peak Budajete Transportation Administration spend eight billion

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Speaker 1: dollars on some crazy amount small amount of EV chargers.

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Speaker 2: I forgot exactly what the amount was, but it's.

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Speaker 1: Like billions of dollars and we didn't even get a

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Speaker 1: large number of EV chargers out of it. That was

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Speaker 1: just the chargers. But again, don't forget the damage to

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Speaker 1: our roads. I know the road seem to be in

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Speaker 1: wardshape lately to me, So I think two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty bucks is a bargain. But we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Now to the latest tariff effects story on the auto industry,

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Speaker 1: electric vehicle manufacturer Rivian now says it plans to invest

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty million dollars to establish a supplier

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Speaker 1: park near its plant in Normal, Illinois, that's Central Illinois. Remember,

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Speaker 1: it isn't just the cars that are made overseas. It's

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Speaker 1: an issue. It's the parts that are made overseas. So

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Speaker 1: more and more companies are not only making the cars

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Speaker 1: the trucks here, but they're going to make some of

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Speaker 1: the supplies here.

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Speaker 2: That could really be a big boost to jobs. Now,

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Speaker 2: remember last week.

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Speaker 1: When I showed you that nude pickup truck from Slate,

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Speaker 1: the truck company backed by Jeff Bezos, also an electric company.

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Speaker 1: They had that's bare boned, stripped down pickup truck that

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Speaker 1: lists for about twenty thousand dollars complete with a crank window.

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Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't have any tech in it. It's just

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Speaker 1: a truck. Well, that news may have spurred Dodge to

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Speaker 1: announce it will offer a more stripped down truck of

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Speaker 1: their own. The RAM fifteen hundred next year will have

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Speaker 1: one Model one trim as they say, for fifty thousand dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: again that's a lot more than twenty grand, but that's

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Speaker 1: a big, big bargain over when you had complaints from

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Speaker 1: some of the buyers about how most of the RAM

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Speaker 1: trucks that are available this year because the supply issues

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Speaker 1: went for at least seventy thousand dollars and that was

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Speaker 1: too much for a lot of them. So this is

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Speaker 1: not just listening to the market as far as competitor,

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Speaker 1: but listening to their own customers. Okay, I don't think

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Speaker 1: the folks at VW are thinking right these days. VW

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Speaker 1: got hit with the US recall recently for some of

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Speaker 1: its twenty twenty five votes. Wag an id buzz vehicles.

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Speaker 1: Those are those electric vehicles that kind of cool. They

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Speaker 1: look like the OLDVW microbus. The seats in the back

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Speaker 1: that were.

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Speaker 2: Too spacious for the two seat belts.

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Speaker 1: They allotted, So they're gonna add another seatbelt, but they're

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Speaker 1: also gonna make the back seat more that middle seat

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Speaker 1: I think it is more cramped. I really just why

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Speaker 1: don't they just add another seatbelt or find something else

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Speaker 1: to do, or make those seats maybe bucket seats. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to do there, But they are really

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Speaker 1: not listening to what the market wants. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be more cramped in the back of an electric

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Speaker 1: vw Okay, coming up, what are the best arguments for

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Speaker 1: yanking the tax free status from Harvard and other schools

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Speaker 1: like it. We're gonna get some answers from a former

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Speaker 1: Harvard law student when American Sunrise Early edition comes right back.

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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, May sixth. There are some of this morning's

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Speaker 1: top stories. Here's a grand now go home. The Trump

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Speaker 1: administration wants to give illegal aliens a thousand bucks and

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Speaker 1: a free plane ticket if they self deport.

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Speaker 2: What a bargain.

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Speaker 1: In the Middle East, Israel strikes back hard at the

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Speaker 1: Huti terrorists who fired a missile into Israel over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Ow and by the way, they attacked the US too.

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Speaker 1: Last night's retaliatory strike involved thirty Israeli fighter jets and

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Speaker 1: focus on a key port used by the terror group

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Speaker 1: again to attack Israel and the United States. Now that

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Speaker 1: the loan payments student loan payments are due again, the

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Speaker 1: number of delinquent accounts is soaring, basically doubling. But who

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Speaker 1: should really shoulder the blame for this mess? Don't blame

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Speaker 1: the kids working at Starbucks. They got duped. And what

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Speaker 1: are the best arguments the Trump team can make to

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Speaker 1: the courts who will inevitably be deciding if the White

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Speaker 1: House can strip Harvard and other schools of their tax

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Speaker 1: free status. American Sunrise Early Edition continues. Now, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the second half hour of American Sunrise Early Edition.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Novak joining you here on a Tuesday, and

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Speaker 1: joining me also is former Harvard law student and campus

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Speaker 1: civil rights activist Ben Todejo. Ben. I'm gonna show you

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Speaker 1: some dueling headlines here because I want you to dig

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Speaker 1: into this for us.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 1: The first headline is playing up Harvard President Alan Garber's

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Speaker 1: claim that President Trump cannot cannot legally rescind the school's

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Speaker 1: tax free status. Okay, that's headline number one.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The other one is from two legal scholars who say

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Speaker 1: it is absolutely legal to take away that tax free

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Speaker 1: status and it's morally sound. By the way, walk us

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Speaker 1: through some of this, Ben, because of course, this is

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Speaker 1: the big one. This is more than just taking away

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Speaker 1: funding for a year or a billion here, a billion there.

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Speaker 1: This would be taxing a fifty three billion dollar account,

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Speaker 1: which you know, you know how it goes in America.

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Speaker 2: That means half right. I mean, this would be the

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Speaker 2: big one. This would be a huge deal.

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Speaker 9: Sure, So you know, I think, first I'm inclined to

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Speaker 9: take the position of two lawyers who are experts in

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Speaker 9: this sort of law over spokespeople at Harvard.

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Speaker 7: But we know that there's precedent for this.

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Speaker 9: In Bob Jones University Versity, United States, we saw that

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Speaker 9: the government could revoke tax exempt status from a university

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Speaker 9: when fundamental public policy was breached, and in that case

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Speaker 9: it was you know, even supported by religion, at least

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Speaker 9: from the perspective of the university. In this case, Harvard

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Speaker 9: doesn't even have you know, that defense to stand on.

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Speaker 9: So there's clear precedent for tax exemptions being revoked and

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Speaker 9: from universities, and in matters relating to discrimination.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ben, you of course, were one of the

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Speaker 1: victims of discrimination at Harvard University.

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Speaker 2: You've been more open.

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Speaker 1: At you know, you were kind of keeping it a

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Speaker 1: little close to the desk for obvious reasons, I think

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Speaker 1: legal and also privacy reason. But you had this experience yourself.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, again, I don't know if you were

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Speaker 1: listening in the last segment. I call myself Jake Novak

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Speaker 1: unemployable political consultant because I give good advice and no

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Speaker 1: one listens to good advice. Here's some good advice for

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Speaker 1: those of you listening in the offices of Congress and

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Speaker 1: in the White House. Put Ben could get him front

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Speaker 1: and center at a press conference to talk about what happened.

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Speaker 1: Give us a little bit of the synopsis of some

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Speaker 1: of the claims that you have against Harvard personally.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, we recently saw this week, rather last week,

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Speaker 9: that Harvard released this internal and Semitism task Force report

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Speaker 9: that was over three hundred pages, and we learned a

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Speaker 9: lot of information that wasn't public at the time or

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Speaker 9: public prior to that, about really profoundly disturbing instances of

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Speaker 9: ant semitism in the curriculum in social settings with administrators.

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Speaker 9: But what was also disturbing to many of us who

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Speaker 9: are at Harvard or who were at Harvard, is that

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Speaker 9: there are many other story is that we're aware of

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Speaker 9: that were not in the report. Shabas Kestenbaum situation was

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Speaker 9: not in the report. What happened with the car center

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Speaker 9: at Harvard Kennedy School is not in the report. And

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Speaker 9: some of the things that I saw on experience at

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Speaker 9: Harvard Law School and things that happened at Harvard Law

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Speaker 9: School prior to when I was there, were not in

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Speaker 9: the report. We know we had an administrator at Harvard

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Speaker 9: Law School who, when swastikas were drawn on desks, even

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Speaker 9: after being asked by Jewish students to call it a swastika,

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Speaker 9: which it was and to condemn it, refused to call

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Speaker 9: it a swastika, would only call it a symbol of

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Speaker 9: hatred and actually said, well, swastika's could be against many

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Speaker 9: kinds of people.

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Speaker 7: How do we know that it was about Jews?

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Speaker 9: This was an administrator at Harvard Law School. We know

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Speaker 9: there was an instance at Harvard Law School when an

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Speaker 9: Israeli Knesctant member came.

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Speaker 7: To speak at Harvard Law School and was referred to live.

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Speaker 9: At a speaking event by a Harvard Law School student

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Speaker 9: as being smelly repeatedly this is what he asked her,

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Speaker 9: live and in front of a large crowd, and when

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Speaker 9: this ended up on YouTube, Harvard Law School cut out

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Speaker 9: his remarks as if they had never happened, while simultaneously

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Speaker 9: accusing Jewish students of cyber bullying. So the Jewish students

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Speaker 9: were the ones engaged in cyber bullying or associated with

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Speaker 9: it according to Harvard Law School, while the student who

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Speaker 9: called an Israeli Kant member smelly was protected by the university.

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Speaker 9: And then, of course, there was my personal situation Harvard

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Speaker 9: Law School, where I dealt with an administrator there who,

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Speaker 9: shortly after I helped run something called the Israel Summit

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Speaker 9: at Harvard, tried to prevent me from continuing my studies

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Speaker 9: at Harvard Law School by lying on Harvard letterhead that

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Speaker 9: she signed claiming that I had said I didn't want

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Speaker 9: to take some of my take home final exams, and

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Speaker 9: then telling me on Harvard Law School letterhead that I

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Speaker 9: should go on a nondisciplinary leave of absence and that

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Speaker 9: I couldn't tell anyone that I was on the leave

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Speaker 9: of absence, that I had to petition to return to

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Speaker 9: the law school and then refuse to give me paperwork

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Speaker 9: that all students are entitled to receive called a demcertification

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Speaker 9: in order to transfer to any other law school.

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Speaker 7: Refuse to give this to me outright, even.

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Speaker 9: Though all students, current or former angels or devils are

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Speaker 9: entitled to it, so that I couldn't proceed with my

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Speaker 9: law school studies at any other law school in the country. Essentially,

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Speaker 9: this is the sort of absurd behavior that Jewish students

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Speaker 9: at Harvard Law School and other Jewish students throughout Harvard

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Speaker 9: were made to endear. And we know that Harvard hasn't

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Speaker 9: really stopped this. As we speak, Harvard is still fighting

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Speaker 9: Shabas Kestendam's law lawsuit. Shabas kesten Dam was a Jewish

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Speaker 9: student at Harvard at their Divinity school, which is really

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Speaker 9: one of the hotbeds of antisemitism at Harvard, And as

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Speaker 9: we speak, Harvard is still spending money fighting Shavist custom

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Speaker 9: Doown's lawsuit instead of ending it. Yet they simultaneously say

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Speaker 9: they're committed committed to combating antisemitism. How can they be

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Speaker 9: committed to combating antisemitism while they're still fighting Jewish students

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Speaker 9: in court.

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Speaker 2: And how can they.

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Speaker 9: Claim to need the federal government's money when the money

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Speaker 9: that they get they turn around to use to fight

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Speaker 9: lawsuits against Jewish students.

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Speaker 7: This is outrageous.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and Shavis Kustenbaum has been a guest on

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Speaker 1: this program. By the way, Ben, this has also been

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Speaker 1: the first time you've joined us since the sixteen year

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Speaker 1: undergrad the man who can't finish college most of Modawi

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Speaker 1: was released from detention. And we also just learned that

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Speaker 1: he boasted at a New York gun shop about.

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Speaker 2: How he had killed Jews with guns in the past.

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Speaker 1: You know, any any any any other person says that

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Speaker 1: in a gun shop, you know, they get they kick

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Speaker 1: them out, believe me, and they get into a lot

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Speaker 1: more trouble. What are your thoughts about the fact that

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Speaker 1: this guy has been released now he's on a fact,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like he's on a fast track to citizenship.

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Speaker 1: And they tried to make an angel out of this guy.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I think his whole family are terrorists.

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Speaker 1: I mean actual members of terrorist groups who have killed

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Speaker 1: and been killed while trying to kill civilians. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the person, yet another person they're trying to

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Speaker 1: turn into a hero in this country, along with killmer Garcia.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy.

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Speaker 7: It is crazy, Jake.

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Speaker 9: This is a particularly disturbing situation with most of Madawi.

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Speaker 9: We know that he was reported to the FBI well

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Speaker 9: before he was detained because he went to a gun

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Speaker 9: show and a gun store and said he liked to

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Speaker 9: kill Jews. Let me repeat that most of Madawi went

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Speaker 9: to a gun store and a gun show on two

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Speaker 9: occasions told people he.

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Speaker 7: Liked to kill Jews. Fast forward to.

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Speaker 9: Being athended by ICE and now released. I think it's

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Speaker 9: important to note that this is not a president being

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Speaker 9: set with regards to ICE being required to release people

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Speaker 9: from ICE attention. In fact, what happened here is most

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Speaker 9: of Madawi happened to get an immediate order from the

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Speaker 9: court when he was first apprehended, saying that he could

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Speaker 9: not leave, he could not be removed from Vermont, and

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Speaker 9: at that time he was not yet in an ICE

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Speaker 9: detention facility in Vermont.

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Speaker 7: It appears that he was in a state detention facility.

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Speaker 9: In Vermont, and so fast forward to very recently, when

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Speaker 9: the judge considered whether to release him, she was able

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Speaker 9: to issue such an order because he was not in

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Speaker 9: an ice detention facility. If he were, she would really

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Speaker 9: not have had much room to be able to request

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Speaker 9: or demand that he be released from ICE attention because

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Speaker 9: it's well established the heavieas Corpus. Petitions for release from

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Speaker 9: detention from ICE detention facilities really are only to be

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Speaker 9: granted in cases of severe health conditions of the detainee,

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Speaker 9: a situation that wasn't meant here.

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Speaker 7: So I think while it's unfortunate that he was released,

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Speaker 7: we should.

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Speaker 9: Take some solace in the fact that this is not

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Speaker 9: presidential with regard to iceed attentions more broadly, because in

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Speaker 9: this case it actually wasn't an ice attention.

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Speaker 7: It was a state attention, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you know, again, kind of get some of

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Speaker 1: that procedural stuff in place. That's fantastic. Sept Benbdejo, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. It's important for us

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Speaker 1: to check in with you regularly. I wish that weren't

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Speaker 1: the case, not because I love having you on, but

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Speaker 1: I wish we could get some kind of closure here

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Speaker 1: with Harvard and some of these other schools, And really

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Speaker 1: because as much as we might like to see these

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Speaker 1: schools fail, some people might like that. I would like

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Speaker 1: to see them just have come under new management. That's

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Speaker 1: really what I'm looking for. I have a great rest

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Speaker 1: of your week, Ben, you too, all right, coming up,

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Speaker 1: illegal aliens, We've got a deal for you, David Rody

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Speaker 1: and I will explain the bargain of a lifetime when

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Speaker 1: American Sunrise Early Edition comes right back. Ho hum, another

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Speaker 1: beautiful morning in Miami, Florida. Yeah, stop rubbing it in

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Speaker 1: here in New York. It's just rainy and gloomy like

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Speaker 1: a few days in a row now, So stop rubbing

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Speaker 1: it in control room.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I understand why welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition.

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Speaker 2: I call this the get a grand and then get

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Speaker 2: out plan.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I have to honestly say, the reason why I'm going

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Speaker 1: to bring in David Brody to talk about this now

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Speaker 1: in this particular subject, is because not only do I

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Speaker 1: think this is a political story, but I also think this.

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Speaker 2: Is a news media story.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why even the mainstream media, the left

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Speaker 1: wing media, isn't making this the lead story. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the board of the Board of the Border Deportations has

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Speaker 1: been all over the news on all sides of the fence.

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Speaker 1: The fact that the now that Trump administration is going

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Speaker 1: to get this plan, going to offer illegal aliens a

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Speaker 1: thousand bucks in a plane ticket if they self deport.

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Speaker 1: I really think it should be the lead story kind

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Speaker 1: of everywhere, at least really near the top, especially because

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Speaker 1: when you take a look at the math, David, apparently

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Speaker 1: it costs if you try to detain, arrest and deport

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Speaker 1: these folks. I got the order wrong. Arrest, detain and

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Speaker 1: deport these folks. If we do it, it's seventeen grand that's

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Speaker 1: the average cost. So to me, this is a very

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Speaker 1: big deal. If you love or hate the issue, I

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Speaker 1: think this should be much more front and center. The

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Speaker 1: border actually decided our last election, frankly, so to me,

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Speaker 1: this is a big deal.

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Speaker 8: No, I think you're right.

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Speaker 10: The problem is the media is all obsessed with deportation

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Speaker 10: or just believing not deportation issue, immigration issues. When it

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Speaker 10: comes to due process and all the legalities, you know

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Speaker 10: they care about that.

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Speaker 8: Why because it's anti Trump.

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Speaker 10: And when it comes to deportation, no, that's different. Actually

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Speaker 10: cleaning up what's going on here in New York in America,

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Speaker 10: that's completely different.

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Speaker 8: Then they don't want any part of that.

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Speaker 10: But you know it's interesting you talk about the math,

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Speaker 10: because the math does make sense from that perspective in

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Speaker 10: terms of being less of a cost to the taxpayer.

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Speaker 10: But beyond all of that, specifically, I mean, look, a

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Speaker 10: thousand dollars, what's that going to get you?

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Speaker 8: Let's just say in Guatemala.

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Speaker 10: Well, because I have no life, I did research this.

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Speaker 8: Morning at six twenty in the morning to see what

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Speaker 8: it was like, how much a thousand dollars or get

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Speaker 8: you in Guatemala.

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Speaker 10: I mean, that's going to get you at least a

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Speaker 10: couple months in terms of a budget, in terms of

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Speaker 10: you know, family of four, you can get rent and

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Speaker 10: you can get groceries and other things for at least

881
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Speaker 10: a couple months.

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Speaker 8: And that's just one thousand dollars. So, Jake, I haven't seen.

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Speaker 10: The specific proposal, or excuse me, the specific details. So

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Speaker 10: is that one thousand dollars an individual? Does that mean

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Speaker 10: children as well or other adults? In other words, if

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Speaker 10: it's a family four, is that four thousand dollars? I

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Speaker 10: don't know, But either way, let's say it is four

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Speaker 10: thousand dollars. I mean that could take care of you

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Speaker 10: for almost a year. It's about fifty six hundred dollars

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Speaker 10: to live in Guatemala for the year as an average

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Speaker 10: family income. So you know, this would be a pretty

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Speaker 10: pretty strong incentive.

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Speaker 8: To do it. It's kind of weird.

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Speaker 10: I don't know, it's kind of weird to think about where,

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Speaker 10: you know, they came over here illegally and now we're

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Speaker 10: paying them to leave. I don't like that part of it.

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Speaker 10: That really just doesn't sit well with me. But then again,

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump, you know, he sees the big He sees

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Speaker 10: the world as like one big spreadsheet. You know, it's

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Speaker 10: one big Excel spreadsheet, and he's looking at the numbers

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Speaker 10: and going, well, look cost effectively, let's look at this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, why the heck will you do that? No, we

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Speaker 8: could save some money.

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Speaker 10: You know, same thing with their Jerusalem moving the embassy

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Speaker 10: to Jerusalem, right, Oh, I got a great deal. The

906
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Speaker 10: square footage was phenomenal. It's that type of mentality, Jake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's important. And again, you know you mentioned

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Speaker 1: it also the due process thing. If people are self deporting,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're not even including David the costs of

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Speaker 1: having to fight this in the courts forever with all

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Speaker 1: these activist judges. This will get them around that process

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Speaker 1: and they say listen, no thanks, no thanks to liberal

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Speaker 1: lawyers and Aclia, you know, and ad Acli you.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna leave.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that's a huge part of it also,

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Speaker 1: And when they see those large numbers, because by the way,

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Speaker 1: even without the thousand dollars, when the opportunities dry up

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Speaker 1: in this country, illegal aliens leave. That happens in every

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Speaker 1: recession in this country. It happens even in good times.

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Speaker 1: If some of the industries are doing a better job

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Speaker 1: of e verify. This is nothing new, and this will

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Speaker 1: help hopefully. And again I agree with you. It seems

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Speaker 1: really very unethic. Oh, they're giving money away. I get it,

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Speaker 1: it's not great, but they're giving these people more than

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Speaker 1: that in debit cards and all the blue cities anyway,

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Speaker 1: and they give them another debit card after a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 10: And if it's and let's remember, if it's about the taxpayers,

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Speaker 10: the taxpayers are actually saving money in this process. So

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Speaker 10: if that's the ultimate goal will be the people, which

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Speaker 10: it is, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, two more hours coming up of American Sunrise,

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Speaker 1: the Big Show with David and the crew. I'm Jake

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Speaker 1: Novac I'll see you tomorrow. That'll be a Wednesday, I remember.

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Speaker 1: No mail in ballots for Pope. Don't even try at California,

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Speaker 1: don't even try it.