1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Second hour of playing Buck kicks off right now. We're 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: gonna have Senator Ran Paul joining us at the bottom 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: about the government shutdown, which I have to say for 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: my own reasons here in DC, I am loving every 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: minute of It's amazing. I feel like I could hop 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: on an electric scooter and just do a little tour 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: of the town and not have to stop anywhere because 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: there's no one on the streets. It's fabulous, you know. 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: I just put a little scarf on, you know, in 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: case it gets Chile on the scooter and I go 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Capitol Building, Georgetown, stop by the White House, High five, 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: Steve Miller. See how everybody's doing. That's the kind of 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: day it is over here. It's wonderful, wonderful. They have 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: all the bureaucrats, you know, jostling together, and you know, 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: making the line at Starbucks one hundred people long. None 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: of that stuff. This government shutdowns pretty nice, pretty nice. 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: So let's dive into politics in California for a minute, 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: shall we, Because a lot of you have seen this. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: It's gone viral, as you know. We have Steve Hilton 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: on to talk about his run for governor in that state. 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, Hey everybody, how you doing. He's turned out 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: he is going to run for president quite obviously, and 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: he has to give up his governor's mansion to whoever 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: the next person to win that contest is going to be. 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: And it's looking right now, at least on the Democrat 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: side of things, it's looking like Katie Porter is the 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: likeliest to win. Now, every state has different rules about 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: how this stuff goes. California, as I understand it, and 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: some of you live there, so you're going to know 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: this better than I do, has like a top two situation. 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: So you have all these people that are going to 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: be running, and then the top two vote getters are 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: going to be in the general election LA ballot in 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: November of twenty twenty six. I think that's right. If 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: it's wrong, my team will tell me in a moment 36 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: and I'll correct it. But I think that's basically how 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: it goes. But Katie Porter is getting a lot of 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: attention she probably did not want right now. In fact, 39 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: the newsweek headline here is Katie Porter's chances of winning 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: California governor election suffer blow. And let's get into why 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: that is. She sat down with a journalist. She sat 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: down with a journalist and had the exchange team. Can 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: I do this? Actually, Producer Mike, Let's let's do a 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: little play pause here, right, So I'm gonna pay it. 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, all right, let's pause for a second 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: here because this is a long one. It's a couple 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: of minutes long. So I want to get in and 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: out of this SoundBite, but I want you to hear 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: the whole thing, because wow, Katie Porter comes across as 50 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: a really nasty and unlikable person and unprofessional. So let's 51 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: start this off. This is a CBS interview with Julie 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: Watts of CBS News California. Come on, it's CBS, and 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: this is communist broadcasting services like this, This is not. 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: This is home team stuff for Porter. But if you 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: ask her real questions, she apparently doesn't. If this is 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: how it goes play, what do you. 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: Say to the forty percent of California voters who you'll 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: need in order to win, who voted for Trump? 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: How would I need them in order to win? 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: Man? 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent 62 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: of the vote, you think you'll get sixty percent? 63 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 5: All everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote 64 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 5: for you. 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: That's what you're in a general election. Yes, if it 66 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: is me versus a Republican, I think that I will 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: win the people who did not vote for Trump. 68 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 5: What if it's you versus another Democrat? 69 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: I don't intend that to be the case. 70 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 5: So how do you not intend that to be the case? 71 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 6: You do? You? 72 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 5: Are you going to ask them not to run? 73 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 6: No? 74 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I 75 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: have the support already in terms of name recognition, and 76 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: so I'm going to do the very best I can 77 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: to make sure that we get through this primary in 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: a really strong position. But let me be clear with you. 79 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I 80 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: have stood on my own two feet and one Republican 81 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: votes before. That's not something every candidate and this race 82 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: can say. If you're from a deep blue area, if 83 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't have 84 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: an experience. 85 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: You just said you don't need those Trump vot So 86 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: you asked me if I needed them to win. 87 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: So you don't feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative. 88 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 5: What is your question? 89 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: The question is, oh, well, let's pause there for a second. 90 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Let's pause there for a second because it's about to 91 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: get really good. Everybody, I want to keep you on 92 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: the edge of your seats. Argumentative, argumentative. I got to 93 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: tell you, as a conservative dealing with the media, like 94 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: that's like a like a hiatsu massage, that's not argumentative. Like, 95 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? That's she can't handle that, that's 96 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: getting her all. Oh, oh, you're just hearing the beginning 97 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: of Hurricane Porter unleashed. Here. Things are things are going 98 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: to get worse. Keep playing it. 99 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: It's the same thing I asked everybody that this is 100 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's power graph. 101 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 5: Every other candidate has answered this question. This is not 102 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: and I said, I support it. 103 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: So and the question is what do you say to 104 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump? 105 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you 106 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm 107 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: happy to answer. The question's for the question is you 108 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: haven't written and I'll answer. 109 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: And we've also asked the other ca and that's do 110 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: you think you need any of those forty percent of 111 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: California voters to win? 112 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 5: And you're saying no, you don't. 113 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every 114 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: vote I can. And what I'm saying to you. 115 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 5: Is that, well to those voters, Okay, so you I. 116 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: Don't want to keep doing this, I'm gonna call it. 117 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: Thank you. 118 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, Hey, hit the pause button. Hit the pause button. 119 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: She can't handle that. What exactly is the look is 120 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: there is the reporter maybe or things getting a little 121 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: lost in translation here about the numbers. Looks she's a 122 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: CBS journalist. She's trying to you know, she could be 123 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: doing like sideline reporting for the NFL or something. She 124 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: happens to be here with this politician who cares? Here 125 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: she is, and she's trying to just she's just trying 126 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: to do like a decent job. This is not a gotcha. 127 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: I know, gotcha. Every time I used to go on CNN, 128 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: it was like an ambush and I had to fight 129 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: through it. I know what gotcha is like. This is 130 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: not gotcha. This is trying to just clarify a point. 131 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: But also you can tell Katie Porter has decided Congressowan 132 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: Porter has decided to really you know, sink her teeth 133 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: into this, and uh, I think just comes across as ogrish. 134 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: If you will, I use that term people like that 135 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: one online ogrish as in befitting of an ogre. It's 136 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: not nice, not nice. The way she's acting here a nice? 137 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: Keep playing it. 138 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 5: You're not gonna do the interview with them? Nope, not 139 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 5: like this. 140 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 3: I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single 141 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: question you ask. 142 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: Every other candidate has a I don't care. 143 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: I don't care. I want to have a pleasant, positive 144 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: conversation which you asked me about every issue on this list. 145 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: And if every question you're going to make up a 146 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: follow up question, then we're never going to get there, 147 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: and we're just going to circle around. I have had 148 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: to do this before ever. 149 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: You've never had had an information Okay, but every other 150 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 5: candidate has done this. 151 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: What part of I'm me? I'm running for governor because 152 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: I'm a leader, So I am going to make. 153 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 5: So you're not going to answer questions from reporters. Okay, 154 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 5: why don't we go through? 155 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: I will continue to ask follow up questions because that's 156 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: my job as a journalist, but I will go through 157 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: and ask this and if you don't want to answer, 158 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: you don't want to answer, So nearly every legislative I. 159 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: Don't want to have an unhappy experience for you, and 160 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: I don't want this whole on camera. 161 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either. 162 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: I would love to continue to ask these questions so 163 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels 164 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: about every one of these issues that they care about. 165 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Okay, isn't that amazing? Also notice the manipulation there. I'm 166 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: not a psychiatrist, so I'm not going to say that 167 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: has hints of maybe borderline personality disorder or causing a 168 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: problem and then saying right away that you're not the 169 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: one who wants to cause the problem that you just 170 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: cause you know, I'm not going to diagnose this, but 171 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: I can tell you this, there are people who could 172 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: strikes me as not a good moment for Katie Porter. 173 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: But let's if you want maybe you're saying, you know, 174 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: maybe she had a bad day. Uh, she wants to 175 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: be the governor of the fifth largest economy in the world. 176 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: You know, maybe we should just say look to the 177 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: record and get a sense says to what is the 178 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: real Katie Porter? 179 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 6: Like? 180 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: You know, anyone can have a bad day, right anyone 181 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: can have a bad day. Maybe you want to. I mean, 182 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't particularly want to take that position on this, 183 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 1: but I want to bring you this story from twenty 184 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: twenty three, Representative Katie Porter scalded ex husband's scalp with 185 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: boiling potatoes. Documents I shall read. The former husband of 186 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Representative Katie Porter said the California Democrat frequently abused him 187 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: verbally this is from The New York Post, and through toys, books, 188 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: and other objects at him during their marriage, even pouring 189 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: scalding hot mashed potatoes on his head during a fight, 190 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: according to divorce records. Matthew Hoffman, who filed for divorce 191 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: from Porter in twenty thirteen, said in a request for 192 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: a restraining order dated April third of that year that 193 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: he was routinely called a bleeping idiot and a ble 194 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: bleeping incompetent by his rage prone spouse, who also shattered 195 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: a glass coffee pot on their kitchen counter in March 196 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: twenty twelve when she felt their house wasn't clean enough. 197 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: She's delightful, delightful. She would not have let me have 198 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: a cell phone because she said, quote, you're too bleeping 199 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: dumb to operate it. 200 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: Wow. 201 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: When she gets angry, I'm quoting here. When she gets angry, 202 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: she will claw and scratch her arms and then say 203 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: to me, look what you made me do again. I 204 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: am not a psychiatrist, but google borderline personality disorder. Uh, 205 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: Google some of what's going on here, the creation of 206 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: the problem and then the pretense ones you've created it 207 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: that you don't want drama. I'm not the one starting 208 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: the fire here. I don't want anyone starting fires when 209 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: you've thrown the gasoline all over the fire you started. Now, 210 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: I know what the Democrats would say here. They'd say, oh, 211 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: but he retracted that, and she ended up. Oh you 212 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: mean that his far more powerful spouse and the very 213 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: serious money interests aligned behind her or able to get 214 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: him to retract something that he had already put it 215 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: in a divorce proceeding because they made him an offer 216 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: probably he couldn't refuse. Yeah, okay, but that did happen. 217 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: So he retracted those things. But he said all those 218 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: things in court documents and they were reported on, which 219 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: I think is interesting. Again, I'm just looking at the 220 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: totality of evidence. Are we gonna say that Katie Porter 221 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: had a bad day, or were we getting a window 222 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: into this member of Congress who wants to be the 223 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: governor of California, and from there probably would see yourself 224 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: as running for president. So I think it's a pretty 225 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: fair game to get into all this. But you may say, Buck, 226 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: divorce proceedings can get ugly. I mean, who among us 227 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: hasn't thrown boiling hot potatoes at somebody in a fit 228 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: of rage at some point, Well all of you, I'm sure, 229 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: But you know we're trying to be generous here. I'm 230 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: trying to take the maximum benefit point of view for 231 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: the ogrish Katie Porter, the bullying Katie Porter here, and 232 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: so that I would then just say, well, clearly she 233 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: would have a lot of people who would come forward 234 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: who have worked with her to speak to what an 235 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: impeccable character she has, what a kind and encouraging boss 236 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: and mentor she is. And for that I bring you 237 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: Politico Katie Porter and the bad boss problem. Oh hold 238 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: on a second, this isn't that at all. This is 239 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: pretty bad quote. Some former staffers have said that she 240 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: is I'm trying to find the quotes here basically deeply 241 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: abusive and nasty and prone to fits of rage and 242 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: temper tantrums, and yeah, it's abusive to staff, has a 243 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: massive staff turnover problem. Sixty five percent of her staff 244 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: turned over during her time there, and everyone basically says, 245 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: at least that has worked for her says that she's 246 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: horrible and really mean. So are we gonna put these 247 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: data points together? I think we should. I think we should. 248 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't think we can do the benefit of the 249 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: doubt thing anymore. Between the scalding hot potatoes thrown at 250 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: her ex, the staffers who say that she is a 251 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: brutish and nasty woman, and now this berating of a 252 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: reporter for nothing, I mean it was. It was a 253 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: nothing burger and she was not having it. So I 254 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: just think that everybody in California should know. And my 255 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: broader lesson on this is somehow the really nasty people 256 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: in politics, I mean, the really nasty people in politics 257 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: are always Democrats. I'm not saying there aren't people on 258 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: the Republican side that can be a little slimy and 259 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: you know not. But if you're talking about somebody who's 260 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: really in a you know, an abusive son of a 261 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: gun situation, you know, Democrats there's a reason for that. 262 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: I know They want to say it's a both sides thing, 263 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: but it's not a both sides thing. And in fact, 264 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: most of the Republicans that I know on the hill, 265 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: and I know many of their staffers, their staffers all 266 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: say they're fantastic people and they really look up to them. 267 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: That's very common, very common. I don't I'm in I 268 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: don't hear that. I hear stuff about the Democrats. Oh 269 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: you're like buck Well. Who else I don't know. Maybe 270 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Amy Klobershar of a senate as Senate fame who is 271 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: famous for eating her salad with a comb and throwing 272 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: things at staffers. Yeah, true stories. Those are the allegations, 273 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: at least allegations throwing things at staffers, eating salad with 274 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: a comb. You know, do you have any I don't 275 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: know any Republicans who eat salad with a comb and 276 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: throw and throw things at their staffers. I'm just saying 277 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: I do not know of that happening. So if you do, 278 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: please call in and tell me. All right, Look, Israel 279 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: represents the only true democracy in the Middle East. They've 280 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: been a steady ally of the US since nineteen forty eight, 281 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: particularly when we needed friends in that part of the world. 282 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: Israel is also home to the Jewish people, same people 283 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: with a rich history that has benefited Christians alike for 284 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: centuries of the Christian faith. You likely had a Bible 285 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: lesson er who that tells the story of the Jewish people, 286 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: and you read or heard the words emphasizing the care 287 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: and protection of looking after those that are Jewish, God's 288 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: chosen people. Many Christians in America are standing with Israel 289 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: this month by participating in a growing movement created by 290 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. It's called Flags 291 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: of Fellowship. This countrywide effort, the Flags of Fellowship, unites 292 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: churches across America planning over one million Israeli flags across 293 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: our land show the world that Israel is not alone. 294 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: To get more information about how you can join the 295 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: Flags of Fellowship movement, visit IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ 296 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: dot org. You don't know what you don't know, right, 297 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: but you should. On this Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Hi, 298 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: welcome back in here to Clay and Buck and we 299 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: got some calls coming in. Let's get to them. Uh. 300 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: First up on the list, Mike in Waco, Texas. What's 301 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: going on Mike, Yeah, Hey, thank you. 302 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 7: I just wanted to say that you said earlier that 303 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 7: that candidate for governor California called out that reporter got 304 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 7: testy with her for no reason, and I'd like to 305 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 7: submit to you that there was a reason, and the 306 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 7: reason was that that reporter dared to question her and 307 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 7: press her for a logical answer. Just like with when 308 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 7: you say that it's not possible for a man to 309 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 7: become a woman or a woman to become a man, 310 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 7: people react sometimes like as if you're hateful by simply 311 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 7: asking the question, or. 312 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: Mike, I will, I will accept your your editor you're 313 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: adendum here. I think that's just a matter of speaking. 314 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: I meant that there's no you know, there's like no 315 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: grounds for her to freak out, But you're correct. The 316 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: grounds for her freak out are the questions. So so 317 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: I think I think that's a fair a fair edition. 318 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: So thank you. I agree. Note or comment taken Girard 319 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: in Louisiana. What's going on, Girard? 320 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: I'm doing fine? How are you? Buck? 321 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm having a great day here in a 322 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: very wide open government shutdown d C. It's the loveliest 323 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: DC I can remember. Honestly, but go ahead sounds great. 324 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: My question was that Katie Porter kept referring to the 325 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: fact that if you keep asking follow up questions, we'll 326 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: never get through all your questions. It seems to me 327 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 4: that she is intimating that she had a copy of 328 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: all the questions ahead of time. 329 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: That could be could be. I mean, I don't I 330 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: assume that she just you know that that's you could 331 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: be right. I wouldn't jump there necessarily because she can 332 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: assume that there's other questions that she's going to ask 333 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: her where they submitted in advance. Maybe, but I think 334 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: that I could tie in. Thank you Gerard for calling in. 335 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: I can tie in your comment with Mike's comment. Which 336 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: is the problem here is that questions are being asked 337 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: and followed up on, and Katie Porter expects a CBS 338 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: affiliate journalist to just sit there and do dictation from 339 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: the likely Democrat candidate for governor after the primary is over. 340 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, so there's the outrage comes from what are 341 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: you doing? You're not supposed to do this a little 342 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: bit like the Dasha Burns lady who actually was the 343 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: one who said the thing about the Pandora's box. Remember 344 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: she wasn't she the one who reported on Fetterman, who 345 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: actually has been doing great for a Democrat. But I 346 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: think she said that she talked to Fetterman and he 347 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: seemed a little not all there, and everyone went completely 348 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: insane on her, and it was clear that he was 349 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: not all there. But you're not allowed to say that 350 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: was the point. So the most obvious it's like the 351 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: Biden thing, the most obvious observation is not allowed if 352 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: it goes against what the part he dictates. 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Senator Paul Away, appreciate you making time for 377 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: us today. 378 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: No problem, Thanks for having me. 379 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: Government shutdown so far. I got to say it's pretty 380 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: nice walking around the streets of DC. I know that's 381 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: a very basic view of things, but government seems to 382 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: be working reasonably well for a so called shutdown. What 383 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: is as you see it, at issue today? Why have 384 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: we seen no progress in the Schumer shutdown negotiations. 385 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 4: Well, I think the great irony of this situation is 386 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: that every Democrat in the Senate and every Democrat versually 387 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: in the House as well, voted for these spending levels 388 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 4: in December of last year. So this continuing resolution has 389 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: spending levels that were actually set under Biden. These are 390 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 4: the Biden spending levels, and every Democrat has previously voted 391 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: for them. The reason they're not voting for them now, 392 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: at least according to the Democrats, is well, we want 393 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 4: to renew these temporary Obamacare subsidies. Well, that's moving the 394 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 4: goalpost because these people have all voted for the spending 395 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: bill before and it doesn't include the Obamacare subsidies, never 396 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: has And the reason the Obamacare subsidies are expiring is 397 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 4: because that's the law that the Democrats wrote. They wrote 398 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: them to be temporary because they were trying to cram 399 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: a lot of spending into a reconciliation bill and the 400 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: only way they could do it was to make things temporary. So, really, 401 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 4: this is all on the Democrats, and eventually they will 402 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: fold and they will vote to reopen the government. 403 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: Now, why are the If you could dig into this 404 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: a bit Senator Paul Why are these subsidies for Obamacare 405 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: both so important to Democrats and so necessary. 406 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: Well, you know, the argument with Obamacare when it started, 407 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 4: you know, background twenty ten, was that it was going 408 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: to keep healthcare insurance prices from going up and make 409 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 4: health care more affordable. It turns out if you look 410 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: at healthcare and darns prices, they've gone up ever since. 411 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: There's been no slowdown in the increase in healthcare prices. 412 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 4: In fact, when you subsidize something, you're increasing the demand 413 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 4: for it. You actually are, in all likelihood increasing the 414 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: price of things. But they haven't been successful. These Obamacare 415 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 4: subsidies aren't really going for the poor. They're actually going 416 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 4: to relatively rich people now. And like I say, they 417 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: were brought in by the Democrats during the pandemic. They 418 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: were said to be, oh, well, people are having a 419 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 4: tough time to the pandemic. We're going to give them 420 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 4: extra money. The real problem, though, that nobody discusses around here, 421 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: is there is no money to give these people. I mean, 422 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 4: the money literally has to be borrowed from China or 423 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 4: printed up by the Federal Reserve. We're two trillion dollars 424 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 4: short with the current levels of welfare and warfare frankly, 425 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 4: and we're two dollars short a year. Where's the money 426 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 4: come from. It's the best to be borrowed. 427 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, well with gold that I think four thousand dollars 428 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: an ounce now, I mean, I think people are starting 429 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: to see that the printing press is very much in use, unfortunately. 430 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: And I wanted to know if you could also look 431 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: into or explain to us a little bit, Senator Paul, 432 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: the argument over whether some of this funding or whatever 433 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: the portion may be, makes it to subsidize care for illegals. 434 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: You're an MD as well as a senator, so you 435 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: have a particular insight into this. What is the truth 436 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: of that. 437 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: Well, it's confusing in the sense that we do have 438 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: many laws that say welfare is not supposed to go 439 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: to illegal aliens, But we also have laws that say 440 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: illegal aliens aren't supposed to vote either, and we know 441 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 4: for a fact that illegal aliens are The most recent 442 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 4: prominent case of them voting was a guy that was 443 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: that superintendent from Des Moines who was here in the 444 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: country illegally and registered to vote and voting in Maryland 445 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 4: and had been for some time. So we know that 446 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 4: the states, particularly the Democrat states, are very loud actules 447 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: California and others. They just don't really police the situation all. 448 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: So we do know that illegal people illegally in the 449 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 4: country are voting. We also know that they're receiving healthcare 450 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: as well. So in legislation then previously passed by Republicans, 451 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 4: language was explicitly put in to say it cannot and 452 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 4: should not happen. And the Democrats are trying to repeal 453 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 4: that language now and try to make it such that 454 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: states could make the decision to give welfare and voting 455 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 4: privileges to illegal aliens. 456 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: Senator Paul this isn't the first. I think this is 457 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: the eleventh shutdown, right, but this isn't your first rodeo 458 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: with this. And I think in the past what has 459 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: been at least a narrative the media pounds, whether it's 460 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: really fair or true or not, is Oh, the Republicans 461 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: are being blamed. This is going to hurt Republicans politically. 462 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not seeing that. And I don't think whatever 463 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: data that can be trusted on this, to the degree 464 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: it can be trusted, shows that what is the you 465 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: see it for the Democrats I'll speak to specifically if 466 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: you can speak to maybe on just the Senate side. 467 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: What is their calculation here? Why have they decided that 468 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: this is the hill they want to fight on. 469 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: I think they're miscalculated. They also, I think the Republicans 470 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: have not hit them hard enough yet. I mean the Republicans, 471 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: I'm about the only one I hear reminding people that 472 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 4: the Democrats all voted for the spending levels nine months ago. 473 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: They're the exact same spending levels. The one reason Republicans 474 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 4: don't bring this up is Republicans used to be critical 475 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 4: of the Biden spending levels, but now the Republicans are 476 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 4: all voting for the spending levels. That's why I'm really 477 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: the only Republican voting against not only the Democrats spending levels, 478 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: but voting against the Republican levels because they incurred a 479 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 4: deficit this year of about two trillion and are projected 480 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 4: to incourage usit next year of about two point one trillion. 481 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: So I think both parties are terrible in the deficit. 482 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: I'm voting against both the Republican and the Democrat plan 483 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 4: because the one thing that is bipartisan up here is 484 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 4: spending money. We don't have We're. 485 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: Going to be at forty trillion then in this debt 486 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: really soon, and you know, Elon Musk came in with 487 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: Doge and there seemed to be this moment in time, 488 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: Senator where there was at least the beginnings of a 489 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: willingness to do something about this. It does not look 490 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: like that has really come to fruition. Maybe that's putting 491 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: it too gently that we're even trying to turn the 492 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: spending curve around. Do you think that there will be 493 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: I know the White House has spoken about this, some 494 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: substantial trimming of federal employees that will occur during the shutdown. 495 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: How does that work? 496 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: You know, dose did a lot of good things. I 497 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: was a big supporter Elon Musk and the thing to 498 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: be brought to government. We did end up voting on 499 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 4: two recision packages or one, but then they did one 500 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: as a pocket recision and so about twelve billion and 501 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 4: four and aid was reduced. You know, I've been championing 502 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: reductions in foreign aid need for a decade here and 503 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: introduced over thirty five bills to do it. This is 504 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 4: the first time we've done it since I'm here. But 505 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: the problem is the continuing resolution that Republicans have put 506 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: forward spends at the currently appropriated levels for four and AID. 507 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: That doesn't include the twelve billion dollars in cuts. So basically, 508 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: if they pass the continuing Resolution that Republicans want everybody 509 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 4: to vote for now, it'll let the four and AID 510 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 4: back in it. And so if you want to get 511 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 4: rid of four and eight again, we will have to 512 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 4: do the same thing again next year. So taking away 513 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: the twelve billion that didn't become the new baseline, it's 514 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 4: not a lower baseline for four and AID. They're going 515 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: back to the original one with this continuing Resolution. So 516 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: it's another reason not to be too excited about what 517 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 4: the Republicans have put forward, is that we're going to 518 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: start all over again with the things that Doge put 519 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: forward and the recision packages. We have to do it 520 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 4: again next year. 521 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: Do you think there's any realistic scenario where there's a 522 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: willingness on the Republican side to make what has to 523 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: happen for real cuts to be I mean, I feel 524 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: like we've been talking about this, you have, I have 525 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: a lot of everybody listening now talking about this, going 526 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: back to the origins of the Tea Party. So this 527 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: is looking like what fifteen years of When are we 528 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: going to make cuts? The debt is too high. The 529 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: debt is too high. We just discussed that it's going 530 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: to be at forty trillion dollars. When do we decide 531 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: to do something about this or is it just a 532 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: waste of discussion at this point because we haven't suffered 533 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: the economic fallout from our profligate spending, so no one's 534 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: going to do anything about it. 535 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: Well, the lay of the land is this, there are 536 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 4: no Democrats that will vote to cut one penny of 537 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 4: one dollar of federal spending. On the Republican side, there's 538 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: a lot of lip service. But when I presented my 539 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 4: Penny Plan budget, which would balance over five years. I 540 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 4: did this two weeks ago, thirty six Republicans supported it. 541 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: Now that's the high water mark, that's the most I've 542 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 4: gotten before. But it also means that I think about 543 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: sixteen Republicans do not support it. These sixteen Republicans all 544 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: and are the leaders of the spending committees, the appropriations committees, 545 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 4: and so there isn't a desire among them really to 546 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 4: cut spending. And so until we have a Republican majority 547 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: and a majority of those Republicans are willing to cut, 548 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: we don't get anywhere. It also doesn't help when people say, well, 549 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 4: we're not going to look at Social Security or Medicare 550 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: and Medicaid. We'll do it sometime in two or three 551 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 4: years from now. We'll make the date in the future. 552 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 4: All of these things, when you take them off limits 553 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: and you don't do anything to food stamps, if you 554 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 4: take all of these entitlements at the table, you really 555 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 4: there isn't enough waste in fraud to cut to actually 556 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 4: balance the budget. 557 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: Well, what do we have to do? I mean, is 558 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: this turning into the entitlements discussion again, which nobody wants 559 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: to touch. 560 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: It's about elections. You need more hardcore people. I think 561 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: the people out there, you know that I meet as 562 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: I travel a country, they are ready to cut spending. 563 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 4: They are ready for more significant cuts, and they're ready 564 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 4: for somebody who introduce a balanced budget. So I think 565 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: if my penny planned budget were surveyed among the public, 566 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 4: among the Republican public, I think you'd get ninety percent 567 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: of the vote, you know, But up here I'm getting 568 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: about sixty percent of the Republicans for it. So really, 569 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: the Republicans up here are all getting the message they 570 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: need to get the message that the debt is a 571 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: real problem and it's time to start cutting spending. But 572 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 4: a lot of them haven't got that message yet. 573 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: How long do you think this shutdown is going to last? 574 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: And is it a big deal to you? Whether it 575 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: goes for another day or another two weeks, does it 576 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: really make much difference? How do you see that? 577 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: The rumor is that the Democrats have a left wing 578 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 4: socialist rally in DC this weekend, and they're afraid of 579 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: their left wing. They're afraid of the socialists, and so 580 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 4: they have to show they're putting up a fight for 581 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: the Obama the free stuff, the Obamacare free subsidies. So 582 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 4: the rumor is they will fight through the weekend and 583 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: then give in next week. They'll give in because there'll 584 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: be some sort of public public promise that will negotiate 585 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 4: on the subsidies. And frankly, there probably are fifteen Republicans 586 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 4: that will vote to increase or keep the Bioblcare subsidies. 587 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: They don't care that it has to be borrowed, they 588 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 4: don't care that it's more big government. So what will 589 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 4: happen is all the Democrats will be for that fifteen 590 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: or twenty Republicans will vote with them, and big government 591 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: always wins. But I think the public's getting increasingly frustrated 592 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 4: with it. So there's going to be a time at 593 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 4: which the public is going to say, let's, you know, 594 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: let's throw some of the bums out. 595 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: Why do we need subsidies if Obamacare makes healthcare cheaper? 596 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: That seems to be a conundrum. 597 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 4: Center. Yeah. One of the things we could do, and 598 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 4: I've proposed this for years now, I proposed that we'd 599 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: let people consumers, people who buy health insurance, let them 600 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: bargain collectively. What I mean by that is, if you 601 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 4: belong to Costco, there are forty four million members of Costco. 602 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 4: If Costco were to buy your insurance for you, my 603 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 4: guess is Costco can get a better price than you 604 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 4: can individually. 605 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: If my wife could buy her insurance from Costco, by 606 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: the way, it would have happened yesterday if she loves Costco. 607 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: So keep going. 608 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: And the rule that's keeping us from doing this is 609 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: a federal rule that says you can buy insurance with 610 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 4: a group if you all have to be in the 611 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: same employment. You have to be ditch stickers or carpenters 612 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 4: or welders. You can buy your insurance together, but you 613 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 4: can't be in multiple different employment, which is a really 614 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 4: dumb rule. And last Trump administration, I got him to 615 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 4: do an executive order. It was challenged in court. But 616 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 4: I have a bill that would do this. It would 617 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: change what's called the Arissa law and would let anybody 618 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: wants to join any group buy insurance. 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Check 665 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: it out today. 666 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 4: News and politics, but also a little comic relief. 667 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: Clay Travis at Buck Sexton. Find them on the free 668 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back 669 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: in here to Clay and Buck, and we're gonna be 670 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: talking to Senator Ron Johnson about the weaponization of law, 671 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: the DOJ stuff, the testimony by Attorney General Bondi up 672 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. Also some very interesting statistics coming out 673 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: from FBI Director Patel, so we shall dive into that momentarily. 674 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: So make sure you stick around with us. And let's 675 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: see we have DD Jim from Rockland County who listens 676 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: on WOOR radio. What's up play it? 677 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 6: As far as superheroes go, nobody beats Superman because he's 678 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 6: the only one who has truly super human powers. 679 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: The Hulk just gets mad and big. 680 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 6: Everybody else needs some kind of gadget to protect them. 681 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 6: The only thing that takes Superman down is Kryptonite. And 682 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 6: I don't think Kryptonite is just laying around that you 683 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 6: can get on Amazon. Well maybe Amazon. That's what makes 684 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 6: Superman the best, very in. 685 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: Depth analysis to our superhero analogy here. I have to 686 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: say we're going way beyond my knowledge here, although I 687 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: feel like he's not giving Hulk his fair due. Rather 688 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: a burly fellow, the Hulk, you know what I mean, 689 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: very very muscular. Let's get call Brian in North Carolina. 690 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: What's up, Brian? 691 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 8: Hey Buck, I was just listening to your call with 692 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 8: Ram Paul, and it kind of ticked me off in 693 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 8: a way because I've been thinking about this for years 694 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 8: upon years about insurance. You know, you're discussing about group 695 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 8: group insurance and so on, and how if you go 696 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 8: to Costco you'd be able to get you know, the 697 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 8: cheaper policies because or not to your cheaper policies, but 698 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 8: to be able to get policies that would provide you 699 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 8: with cheaper medical coverage because you're in a quote group. 700 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 8: That whole argument to me seems outdated. Okay, that made 701 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 8: sense sixty years ago, years ago before we had computers. 702 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 8: So the whole idea back then was we sell them 703 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 8: in groups. You know, we'll sell insurance to it to 704 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 8: a business because oh, they may have two thousand people, 705 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 8: and I can get two thousand people signed up and 706 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 8: then we'll admit. It'll make administration of the policies easier. Well, 707 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 8: today there's a thing called the computer, and you can 708 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 8: get online and if I wanted to, I could go 709 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 8: to Anthem or Blue Cross, brou Shield, but I could 710 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 8: sign up and buy their insurance policies, but I would 711 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 8: have to pay the individual prices. 712 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: In my mind, well, this is where insurance is a 713 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: is inherently. I'm sorry we're at the end here, Brian, 714 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: but thank you for calling. In insurance, just like on 715 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: your house, there's a cost sharing component to it, and 716 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: in healthcare that gets very complicated very quickly, because how 717 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: old are you, how healthy are you? You need younger, 718 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: healthier people to subsidize the older, sicker people, or else 719 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: you don't have insurance, right, This is the question, This 720 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: is the problem, This is the crux of the matter.