1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're obsessed 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: with the jersey launch for the USL's Portland Cherrybombs featuring 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: front of kit sponsor Planned Parenthood Take all of Our money. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: It's Friday, April seventeenth, and on Today Show, Kansas City 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: current midfielder and captain Lolabata joins us to talk surviving 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: the uncertainty of the NWSL's early days, the shaky start 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: for the current this season, her viral Selly's and why 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: she wants air Abouda to get paid. Plus a prime 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: minister plants his flag and a commissioner digs a bigger hole. 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: It's all coming up right after this. Welcome Backslices. Here's 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: what you need to know today. Let's start with soccer. 12 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: The US women's national team plays the last of three 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: friendlies against Japan tonight, kicking off at nine pm Eastern 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: at Dick's Sporting Goods Park in Commerce City, Colorado. Emma 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: Hayes made some pretty big changes to our starting lineup 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: between games one and two in order to give a 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: younger group of players more experience. So we're really curious 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: to see what starting eleven she puts on the Field 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: tonight to the WNBA, it's not just teams who are 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: busy signing players ahead of the season. Earlier this week, 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: NBC announced that Naysmith Hall of Famer Cheryl Miller will 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: join the network as an analyst, joining a studio team 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: that also features Maria Taylor and Sue Byrd. As a player, 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: Miller was a star for USC in the nineteen eighties, 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: leading the Trojans to back to back NCAA titles in 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three and eighty four. When the WNBA launched 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: in ninety six, she served as the Phoenix Mercury's first 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: ever head coach and general manager. Fun fact, Miller also 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: once scored one hundred and five points in a high 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: school game pre three point line baller. Miller isn't the 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: only big name joining a WNBA broadcast team. We've seen 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: lots of new commentators and analysts announced in recent weeks, 33 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: doing large part to the WNBA's new media rights deal 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: that's going to see games air on NBC USA Network, CBS, 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime, in addition to games produced by returning broadcast 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: partners ESPN and Ion. Superslice Joey Maldonado's women's sports spreadsheet 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: with game times and channels is going to be our 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: most visited bookmark. We'll link to that again in the 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: show notes so you can save it if you haven't. 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Speaking to WNBA broadcasts, ESPN announced that Monday's WNBA Draft 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: was the second most watched in league history, with an 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: average of one and a half million people tuned in 43 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: to see the Dallas Wings select Yukon's Azy Fud with 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: the number one pick. This year's broadcast trails only the 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four WNBA Draft, when two point four to 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: five million folks watch the Indiana Fever select Caitlin Clark 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: more Azy News the Friend of the Show, was one 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: of several new players doing introductory pressers over the last 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: day or two. On Thursday, Dallas's newest resident appropriately rocked 50 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: cowboy boots and talked about her excitement for good Texas 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: barbecue and Texmex. Fudd was asked about how her time 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: in college prepared for the league. She said at Yukon quote, 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: you don't skip reps. She was also asked about her 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: relationship with former Yukon teammate Paige Beckers, but team com 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: stepped in before she could answer. Take a listen. 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: Page announced last year on TikTok that y'all were a couple, 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: and I'm wondering if that is still the case, and 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: if so, if y'all have talked to any other couples 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: in the league about how they negotiate that dynamic as 60 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: pro teammates. 61 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: I understand why you have to ask that question, but 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: we're going to respectfully decline from commenting on our players' 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: personal lives the next question. 64 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: Fud was also asked how she hopes to inspire the 65 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: next generation and said, quote, the game is at its 66 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: peak and when you bet on women, you give them 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: a chance. End quote bet on women, yes, ma'am. This week, 68 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: the newest Chicago Sky players also met the media, including 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: UCLA's Gabriella Hakez, trade acquisition for Kia Jackson, and free 70 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: agent signee Skyler Diggins. Speaking at Diggins SKYGM, Jeff Paglioca, 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: who's been getting his fair share of criticism for a 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: couple of years and especially in the days since the 73 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: team traded Angel Reese, shared that Diggins is one person 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: he's going to try to avoid hearing it from. 75 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: I think that when you get into conversations with an 76 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: Azarei Stevens or Skyler Diggins players that you know we 77 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: were able to initially engage with. You know, they need 78 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: to feel confident, you know that we're going to build 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 4: a team around them. You know, I don't want to 80 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: deal with Skyler Diggins every night, right if she doesn't 81 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: have players that she can go to war with. 82 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: Pagliocas seems more than aware of the commentary on social 83 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: media about Skyler whipping the front office and franchise into shape. Now. 84 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: Some folks have commented on the posts about Paglioca's comments 85 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: by saying that when Angel Reese demanded a bet a roster, 86 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: she was publicly reprimanded, and now he's saying he wants 87 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: to put stars around Skyler. Now. I do want to 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: gently push back on that, as the issue with Angel's 89 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: comments were that she publicly called out her teammates is 90 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: not good enough. The public call out was what caused 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: the tension with her teammates and the team, and what 92 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: was criticized not the fact that she wanted to be 93 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: surrounded by more talent to the PWHL, where four teams 94 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: are still in the running for the fourth and final 95 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: playoff spot at this point, Montreal, Boston, and Minnesotda have 96 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: all mathematically clinched, while Seattle has been eliminated. That leaves Ottawa, Toronto, 97 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: New York, and Vancouver in the mix for the final spot. 98 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: With the current point differential, it seems likely it's going 99 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: to come down to Ottawa and Toronto, with both teams 100 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: playing key games this weekend. Ottawa hosts New York on 101 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: Saturday at two pm Eastern, while Toronto travels to Minnesota 102 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: for a game at one thirty pm Eastern on Sunday. Now. 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: Earlier this week, Ottawa earned some pretty solid moral support 104 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: amid their playoff push, with Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney 105 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: and Finland President Alexander Stubb joining Ottawa on the ice 106 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: for a practice. Carney and Stub, both of whom have 107 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: some hockey experience of their own, even joined the players 108 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: for a few drills and got pretty high marks. Charge 109 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: captain Brion Jenner told the Ottawa Citizen quote, they were 110 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: great sports and they did really well on the drills. 111 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: It was super special end quote. Now any chance Carney 112 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: just signs an executive order automatically advancing the Charge to 113 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: the postseason, or is Canada still a functioning country whose 114 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: leader isn't eoing whatever the he please is on a 115 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: daily basis asking for a friend. One final PWHL note 116 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: amid the playoff push, the two top teams in the league, 117 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: number one Montreal and number two Boston, face off tonight 118 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: for the second time in a week. Puck drops at 119 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern at Plos bell in Quebec. Boston will 120 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: be looking to avenge last weekends one nothing lost to 121 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: the victoire in front of more than seventeen thousand fans 122 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: at Boston's TD Garden, while Montreal will look to keep 123 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: control of the number one seed in the playoffs. Don't 124 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: forget that both the NCAA Gymnastics Championships and Love Volleyball 125 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: Championships conclude on Saturday, so be sure to grab the 126 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: links to the schedule and info from our show notes 127 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: and tuned into both all right slices. We need to 128 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: spend a couple of minutes talking about WNBA Commissioner Kathy 129 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Engelbert ahead of Monday night's draft. She held a press conference, 130 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: her first open media availability since last year's WNBA finals, 131 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: and we were so busy talking about all the draft 132 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: picks and the parties and everything else. We haven't got 133 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: to it yet, but in that press so, she did 134 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: announce a couple news items, including that the WNBA is 135 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: aiming to play its first game outside of North America 136 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven. She also raised a lot of 137 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: eyebrows with her answers to a couple questions during the presser. 138 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: We're going to play two clips for you, beginning with 139 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: the question Kathy received about the future of her job. 140 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Take a listen, hi, Kathy. 141 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 5: Madeline Kenney with the New York Posts. Adam Silver was 142 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: as last month about just your future as the commissioner 143 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 5: of the WNBA, and he said he didn't know what 144 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 5: you wanted to do, So I guess I'm just curious, like, 145 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 5: what do you How much do you want to stay 146 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 5: the commissioner of the WNBA. 147 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: How much longer do you anticipate to be in this role? Well, 148 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: thank you, Maddie. I do crack up. 149 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 6: How everybody's focused on me and you should be focused 150 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 6: on the hundreds of amazing women and thousands of women 151 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 6: who run this league outside of myself, our women owners, 152 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 6: our women board of governors, our women gms and women 153 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 6: head coaches, and my whole team of you know, diverse 154 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 6: women and men who are working hard every day to 155 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 6: get the thirtieth season tipped off by May. But I 156 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 6: appreciate that you're focused on me as well. I wonder 157 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 6: whether you would ask that of a man, by the way, 158 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 6: but I realized as women, we we get asked different 159 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 6: questions than men do. 160 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: But look, I'm so. 161 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 6: Proud of this league and we're working out here, you know, 162 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 6: working really hard to make the thirtiest season our best 163 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 6: ever and to continue to to you know, build that 164 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 6: sustainable economic model we know we need for the future. 165 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 6: So nothing else to report, which is probably why Adam 166 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 6: didn't report anything. 167 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: There's there's no story here. 168 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 6: I'm thrilled with our trajectory. I'm filled with the growth, 169 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 6: thrilled with what we've done over the past couple of years, 170 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 6: and really looking forward to the next few years. 171 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: Okay, lots of thoughts on that, but first. Kathy was 172 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: also asked about some of what surprised her most during 173 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: CBA negotiations, and her response was interesting. Probably the main 174 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: moment was housing. 175 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 6: Quite frankly, I didn't know how important and emotional that 176 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 6: was for them because I just assume having two children 177 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 6: in their twenties, that you know, pay for their own housing, 178 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 6: that once they were making these much increased salaries, that 179 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 6: that wasn't something they would need or want, but they 180 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 6: made it very clear it was very important to them. 181 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: It was an emotional issue. So I'd say that was the. 182 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 6: Major issue everything else we wanted for the players. 183 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna need Bianca and Alex to get 184 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: in here, and we're gonna need you to give us 185 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: a minute. Alex Bianca, Hello, Hey, Hello, Okay, so let's 186 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: get into it. First things first. We love an assist 187 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: in the WNBA, but I don't think passing the ball 188 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: to every other woman in the organization was the correct 189 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: response to being asked about her own job. Like the 190 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: disconnect there between how long do you plan on staying 191 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: in this job and do you want to keep being 192 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 1: the commissioner to name a woman was like wild and 193 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: I think like where she ended up was where she 194 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: sort of started. There's no story here. If there is one, 195 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: you'll hear from me. I also don't think it made 196 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: any sense to say if there was something to say, 197 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: Adam would have said it, because what Adam Silver said 198 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: the quote she refers to there was this quote. We 199 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: haven't had those discussions with the WNBA board. This is 200 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: Adam Silver when he was asked if she would still 201 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: be the commissioner after this upcoming season. I would always 202 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: say Kathy's done a fantastic job since she's come to 203 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: the WNBA. Obviously you can see just in the results. 204 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: But I haven't had those discussions recently with Kathy, even 205 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: in terms of her future plans and how long she 206 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: wants to do this. She had a story career before 207 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: she came to the WNBA with Deloitte. But I want 208 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: to say the results speak for themselves. End quote. So 209 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: what he said, in fact was an alley oop. If 210 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: I want to continue the basketball references for the question 211 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: what have you decided? Adam Silver was noncommittal. He didn't 212 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: have an answer for us. He didn't say you were 213 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: sticking around. It actually is a story, So I already 214 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: take back. She shouldn't have said no story here. She 215 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: should have said I understand why there's a question there 216 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not ready to speak on it yet, or 217 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, some other answer. But what she did say, well, 218 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: and I'm letting you guys get to all of this 219 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: before we get to the real problem I had with 220 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: their statement. But let's discuss all that before we get 221 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: to the woman man part. 222 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think she just by saying there's nothing 223 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: to report, there's no story here. I think that's classic 224 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: The Lady doth protest too much, methinks, to invoke Shakespeare. 225 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: I just think whenever you say something like that, it's 226 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 3: like whoa, whoa, whoa. We could have just stopped with 227 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: like you said, Sarah Kathy Engelbert, saying we're working really 228 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: hard to make the thirtieth season our best ever, and 229 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: we're continuing that process. And you know, she could even 230 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: have referred back to what Adam Silver says. You know, 231 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: we hadn't had those conversations yet, but she took this 232 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: somewhere where it did not need to go. And she 233 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: is way too media trained to have answered like this. 234 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 235 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 7: I'm going to even try making a basketball analogy here, 236 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 7: which folks know is rare for me. But I felt 237 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 7: like she was playing full court defense on like a 238 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 7: playground game. 239 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, what is going on? She was picking 240 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: up the press on the inbounds. 241 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 7: Yes, at the airport, as you would say, But honestly, 242 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 7: her response was like a prime example of I think 243 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 7: the part of her job that she is the worst at, 244 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 7: which is the people connection part of it. And I 245 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 7: kind of feel bad because Kathy has in a lot 246 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 7: of ways accomplished a lot in her time as commissioner, 247 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 7: and when she says stuff like this, it almost makes 248 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 7: me wonder how she accomplished so much during her time 249 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 7: as commissioner. And then I start thinking about the diverse 250 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 7: group of men and women in her office that she's 251 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 7: referring to and wondering how much work they're putting in. 252 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: I think, also, what's kind of fascinating about it is 253 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: and we'll get to the man versus women is you 254 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: just made me think of, like, she doesn't have soft skills, 255 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: and we're used to women having soft skills and then 256 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: maybe not judging men for not having those. Were like, 257 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: he's a business guy, he got the business done right, 258 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: and then with women, we expect both the business to 259 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: be done and the soft skills to be there. But 260 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: I think that's why in the past we've talked about 261 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: thetent for having a commissioner that feels like they understand 262 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: and connect with the players, and then having a CFO 263 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: or a CEO or somebody who manages the business and 264 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: the finance side, because it just doesn't feel right in 265 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: this league to have someone standing up there representing this 266 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: diverse group of women and constantly stepping in it and 267 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: not feeling like someone that can respond to questions in 268 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: this way or in interact in a way, which I 269 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: think the second question is going to get us to 270 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: even more. But before that, y'all, would you ask a 271 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: man this question? I love that Madeline Kenny was like, 272 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: I would, yeah. 273 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: And for all of us who have been in those 274 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 3: press conferences, you know they sometimes rip the mic right 275 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: out of your hand, and she was like, I'm holding 276 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: this mic in case I need to respond, and it 277 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: made it so great. 278 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Madeline was like, no, no, no, no, let me make 279 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: sure I am still on the mic. When I say 280 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: I would ask this question. That was insane to me. 281 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: I yes, women get asked all sorts of questions. They 282 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: didn't ask, are you able to balance being a mom 283 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: and being WNBA commissioner? They didn't ask you feel like 284 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: you're emotionally stable during your period when you're the WNBA commissioner. 285 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: They didn't ask is your brain big enough for you 286 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: to be the WNBA commissioner. None of this was coded, 287 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: none of this was misogynist. This was a legitimate question 288 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: for a beleaguered leader who had been questioned throughout the 289 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: last year plus about her ability to lead, and after 290 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: Nafisa Collier's exit interview commentary, this is about the most 291 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: obvious question you can ask of someone, particularly since we 292 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: all sort of agreed they're not going to get rid 293 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: of her during negotiations, and most of us agree she 294 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: has done a lot of great things for this league 295 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: and seen it through a time of tremendous exponential growth. 296 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: So the question is a valid one. The question is 297 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: in no way gendered, and I can't stand when people 298 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: take the teeth out of those moments that are deserving 299 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: of that response by applying it in times. 300 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: When they're not exactly She's doing some harm here, one 301 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: hundred percent. 302 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: Speaking of doing harm, let's get to the second question 303 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: about housing now. The most gracious part of me wants 304 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: to say that as the commentary was coming out about 305 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: ongoing negotiations and they talked about housing still being a 306 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: big issue, I personally momentarily thought, yeah, if these players 307 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: are making a minimum of three hundred thousand dollars. That's 308 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: enough money to pay for your own housing, right. But 309 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: the difference between the average person, say, I don't know 310 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Kathy's two twenty something year old children that she invokes, 311 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: and a WNBA player is the fact that their season 312 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: requires a short lease that might be broken, whether due 313 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: to trade, whether due to not sticking on a roster, 314 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: whether to this due to the season just ending. And 315 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: so it is a different financial situation than the average person. 316 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that there aren't people out there 317 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: who make far less than what they're making, who are 318 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: struggling to find housing that won't feel some type of 319 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: way about this, But that's a larger conversation about being 320 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: a p ffasional athlete, and you know what's afforded to 321 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: those folks. And I do think it's really necessary to 322 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: remind people of the difficulty in acquiring a lease that's 323 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: shorter than a year, or breaking it even after a 324 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: year if you end up paying for a bunch of months, 325 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: you don't use it for when you live elsewhere. And 326 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: I think that being missing not only that context seeming 327 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: to be missing from her answer, but then the response 328 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: she gave whether or not she agrees with their decision 329 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: to keep fighting for it. To say it in that 330 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: way felt like absolutely zero connection to the folks that 331 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: she's communicating with and the way that they might have 332 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: grown up differently than someone who is the child of 333 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: a Deloitte exec turned professional league commissioner. 334 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 7: We've talked a lot on this show about how much 335 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 7: respect we have when people talk about how their minds 336 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 7: have been changed, and so at the very beginning of 337 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 7: that answer, Kathy's talking about something that her mind was 338 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 7: changed on. But the reaction to include her kids just 339 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 7: show such privilege and lack of awareness. The thing I 340 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 7: come back to is there's a difference between a big 341 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 7: contract and stability, and right now the league still lacks stability. 342 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: A lot of these. 343 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 7: Contracts aren't guaranteed, meaning that players could make only a 344 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 7: couple thousand dollars depending on how long they stick. And 345 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 7: then finally, the difference in markets, you know, trying to 346 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 7: get housing in Dallas versus New York, the Bay Area 347 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 7: versus Indiana, like major difference here, but the salary is 348 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 7: the same regardless. 349 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: And speaking of gendered questions and gendered language, I hate 350 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: that she called this an emotional issue. She could have 351 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: used a different word. She could have said, this was 352 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: an important issue. This was something that it became very clear, 353 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: was close to the player's hearts, if you want to 354 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: get at that emotional element. But to say that, you 355 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 3: know these women, this was a very emotional issue for them, 356 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: that word is not especially in light of the comment 357 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: that we just talked about. It just further a lack 358 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: of touch and an out of touch perspective that is 359 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 3: really harmful. 360 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: And I do want to also point out, because Alex 361 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: you made me think of this, it's not just the 362 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: stability within the moment and the season that you're in, 363 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: but long term, if you have an athlete that comes 364 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: from a family that doesn't have means, they get into 365 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: the league and they have a three or four year career, 366 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: that's the amount of time they're making this quote unquote 367 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 1: big bucks, which it is. This is big money, This 368 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: is good money, but for the rest of their lives. 369 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: They then have to pivot to something after having devoted 370 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: their time and energy and effort and skills to this 371 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: very short lived thing. So the fact that they might 372 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: not want to blow all that money on a contract, 373 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: including wasting months of a lease that they're not using 374 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: is financially smart for folks who also might be being 375 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: asked to support families or give money back to folks 376 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: back home. Like, there's a lot more to this, and again, 377 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: I think it just speaks to your point, to the privilege. 378 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: This is going to be fascinating to watch the reactions 379 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: to Kathy. I think she's very lucky that there's so 380 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: much focus being put on free agent moves. There's so 381 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: much excitement for the start of the season, the basketball starts. 382 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: We focus way more on that when we're not in 383 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: a CBA negotiation. So I don't think she did herself 384 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: any favors. Let's just say that we're gonna take a 385 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: break when we come back. It's the Sellly Queen herself. 386 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: Lolabanta joining US now. She's a midfielder and captain for 387 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Current and has earned five caps for 388 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: the US women's national team. A Stanford grad, she helped 389 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: the Cardinal to the twenty eleven national title and earned 390 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: a degree in engineering. Okay Smarty pants a Calle native 391 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: with Hawaiian roots via her mom. She scuba, She golf, 392 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: She plays paddle. Emma Hayes called her a little gem. 393 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: She taught me how to do her famous fake hammy 394 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: injury turned twerk Selly at a wedding. It's lolabanta hi loo. 395 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 8: Hello gets me every time. All these good things that 396 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 8: are said about me. 397 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: Well they're all true. I'm so excited to chat with 398 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: you. You're technically supposed to be on a break international break 399 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: for the NWSL, but it's not been too much of 400 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: a break because your Casey current team was playing in 401 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: the Teal Rising Cup, which is a four team tournament. 402 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: You beat Brazil's SC Paul Mara six to one to 403 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: lift the shield. Do you like having a game in 404 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: the midst of all the practices or would you prefer 405 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: more rest during the break. 406 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 8: I obviously am one of the older players, so I 407 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 8: absolutely want a break, but we do get days off. 408 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 8: But one thing I have loved is having these games 409 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 8: against international teams. It's really good for the experience, especially 410 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 8: too because we're going to be playing Conka Calf Champions 411 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 8: League this year, so getting experience like that right now 412 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 8: for younger players as well is so fun. And then 413 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 8: obviously I'm saying it's great because we lifted the trophy 414 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 8: at the end of it. 415 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always fun to win stuff. Have you gotten 416 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: the chance to do any non soccer life stuff the 417 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: last week or so? 418 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 8: Uh? Well, now that the seasons are changing, I have 419 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 8: summarized my house a lot of like watering the plants, 420 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 8: getting the yard work going, getting seeds to garden. My 421 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 8: husband's family has stayed with us, which has been great 422 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 8: to get family time. So a lot of laundry, of 423 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 8: doing all the sheets and all that. But I am 424 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 8: definitely known for enjoying life off the field, just as 425 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 8: I do as much on the field, So I know 426 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 8: how to find that balance. 427 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: Lola Banta, she's just like us. The weather changes and 428 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: she gets all cute about her house and her garden 429 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: and her flowers. I love it. We also have really 430 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: loved watching you have such great success with the Kansas 431 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: City Current, captaining the team to the shield and record 432 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: time last season. But it's been a real journey for you, 433 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: including being on three teams that folded Skyblue FC Kansas 434 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: City the first iteration of the Utah Royals. That's really tough. 435 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: I first have to ask, like, is it you're a curse? 436 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 8: I'm like, am, I'm the common denominator? Am I? 437 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: The problem might be might be no but for real, like, 438 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: how hard is it to stay committed to this career 439 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: when there's such instability? Oof? 440 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 8: What a great question. And I think you know because 441 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 8: I've been in the league for so long and have 442 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 8: so many of these highs and lows, people continue to 443 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 8: ask me a question along those lines. But it's because 444 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 8: this game is continuing to grow. Like just alone watching 445 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 8: Kansas City Current. When we came here, we didn't even 446 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 8: when we when they brought us back here, we didn't 447 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 8: even have a team name yet, we didn't have a facility, 448 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 8: we didn't have a stadium, and just in that little time, 449 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 8: we were able to accomplish all that. Win a Shield, 450 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 8: become one of the biggest organizations in the league known worldwide, 451 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 8: attracted these international players and myself too. I'm experiencing a 452 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 8: lot of success and still growing in the game. So 453 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 8: that's why I continue to do it. Believe me, it 454 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 8: ends a lot of days with headaches and sore muscles, 455 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 8: and that's why I got these bags under my eyes. 456 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, non interview Sarah here. We had some technical 457 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: difficulties with Low in her computer, but we have re 458 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: established connection with her on her phone. Audio video might 459 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: look a little bit different, but still good. Okay, I 460 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: want to go back to the beginning then, to one 461 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: of those teams that folded because you were drafted by 462 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: sky Blue in twenty fifteen. You played six games and 463 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: then you got cut, and I'm wondering, when you look back, 464 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: with the distance that you now have, what do you 465 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: think went wrong? Was it that you weren't ready? The 466 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: team was a mess, just wasn't a good fit. 467 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 8: I would say kind of all the above. That was 468 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 8: one of the organizations that struggled, honestly for a while 469 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 8: and until they kind of had their name change to Gotham. 470 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 8: Now they were struggling, and then they went in. You know, 471 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 8: they went in one two and these sold championships. I think, 472 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 8: I mean, they're balling out now. They're a team that 473 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 8: competes every single year. But also, don't get me wrong, 474 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 8: I didn't think I should be a starter getting all 475 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 8: these minutes. I knew going in that it was going 476 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 8: to be a very hard transition, and I think I 477 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 8: needed that set back in that reality check that it's 478 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 8: not going to be a walk in the park. It's 479 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 8: not college anymore. So I actually just went refocused, got 480 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 8: as fit as I could and have been with the 481 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 8: Kansas City organization since. Yeah. 482 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: I mean you battled through the starts and stops of 483 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: the teams that foolded and ended up on this team, 484 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: helping them become one of the preeminent teams in the league. 485 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: You've been there since twenty twenty one. You've gotten to 486 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: see success and do it on a team that has 487 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: a purpose built stadium, amazing facilities, great steady leadership. Like 488 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: how much does it mean to you specifically more so 489 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: than maybe some of the other players in the league 490 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: to see the both of the NWSL over the last 491 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: ten years. 492 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 8: Absolutely, I and don't get me wrong, I definitely remind 493 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 8: those young ones that they have no idea and they 494 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 8: got it so good, especially even just the players that 495 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 8: have been on this team for the last two years, 496 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 8: for example, like Alex Feiffer and Claire hut and two 497 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 8: of our youngest players we had in the last two years. 498 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 8: They came in and we were crushing the league, scoring, 499 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 8: breaking all these records, making the playoffs easily, And I 500 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 8: was like, you guys, it was not like this, Like 501 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 8: the year before we didn't even make playoffs. We were 502 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 8: all probably even like second to last place. Or even 503 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 8: last I don't know, but we struggled and I'm glad 504 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 8: they have that because that is what we continue to 505 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 8: show up for that next generation, and I hope they 506 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 8: continue to raise the bar as well. But yeah, I 507 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 8: definitely am telling them stories and they always are like, 508 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 8: oh the low lower. 509 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: Well interesting, like you're very open about struggles about finances, 510 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: about all the things and your journey throughout the league. 511 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: You were part of this very fun reality show the 512 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: off Season a couple of years ago, a bunch of 513 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: NWSL players training living together in Miami, getting stuck in 514 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: elevators and such, and in one episode you went on 515 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: a pretty lengthy sort of rant about being underpaid. And 516 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: I watched that and then later saw you get this 517 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: bag and I thought that monologue on the show probably 518 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: helped you get a better contract. Do you think that's 519 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: how it went down? 520 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 8: I think, well, I would hope so, because when I'm savings, 521 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 8: I hope someone's listening, because if not, I've just losing 522 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 8: my breath over nothing. But it I don't think it 523 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 8: just helped me. I think it helped a lot of 524 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 8: players in the league, because at that time I had 525 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 8: not been called into the national team, and when you're not, 526 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 8: you're almost disrespected in terms of pay. No matter the 527 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 8: years that you put in, they will never go above 528 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 8: a certain amount. And so I think me advocating, I 529 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 8: mean to the world, that thing was everywhere. It helped 530 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 8: start a conversation, I think for a lot of players, 531 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 8: and I'm glad that did because at the end of 532 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 8: the day, I don't care if the person next to 533 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 8: me is getting paid more than me. I want that. 534 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 8: I want everyone to get paid. I want the pay 535 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 8: to go up across the league. I would just also 536 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 8: like a cut of it as well. 537 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you've talked about that. You've said openly 538 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: like you want other people to get the best deal, 539 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: and you're not worried if money goes to someone else. 540 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: You're just committed to sharing contract information, spreading the well, 541 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: talking openly about financials. Where do you think that generosity, 542 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: that desire to sort of change the stigma about talking 543 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: about money comes from. 544 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 8: I think you know, in the very beginning of the league, 545 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 8: a lot of people were embarrassed in a shame like rightly, 546 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 8: so I know the first year I was not openly 547 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 8: telling people, but I would tell some people, and my 548 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 8: first full salary for the year was seven five hundred dollars, 549 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 8: and so when people would ask me that, I'm like, yeah, 550 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 8: I'm having oatmeal five times a day because that's all 551 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 8: I can afford right now. But this is a sport 552 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 8: I love, so I'm going to sacrifice and do that. 553 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 8: And people need to know and have these conversations because 554 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 8: they would never know that. They would never know that 555 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 8: we need to fight for a players association and all 556 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 8: these rights in a CBA, a collective bargaining agreement, and 557 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 8: people have to be vulnerable in order to change and 558 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 8: grow the sport well. 559 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: And I think especially early years of women's professional sports, 560 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: it felt like it delegitimized the work and the talent 561 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: to have such low salaries. And I know sometimes even 562 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: leagues wouldn't publish the amount that someone got fined because 563 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: if the fine was like two hundred dollars, it just 564 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: revealed how little you could find people you weren't paying. 565 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: I actually got fined within the first two weeks of 566 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: being an owner of the Chicago Red Stars, and my 567 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: fine was two hundred dollars, and I was like, well, 568 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: at least if I'm getting fined, they're not charging me much. 569 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the finds have gone up 570 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: since then, but yeah, I mean I think it's because 571 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: it feels like it's then some sort of value of 572 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: the quality and talent, and that was not the case, 573 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: and so it is hard to talk about when salaries 574 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: are so low now that they're going up, though, it's 575 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: just as important to make sure that everyone is moving 576 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: with the league and not being left behind because they're 577 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: too embarrassed to ask, like, am I getting paid what 578 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm worth? Speaking of the reality show, I'm wondering it's 579 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: been a little while. I've been waiting for season two. 580 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: Is it happening? And if it came along, would you 581 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: want to do it again? 582 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 8: I'm saying absolutely, I would do it again another season. 583 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 8: I don't know. If it's happening, I would love for 584 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 8: it too. I had a great time Midge versus one 585 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 8: of my good friends. I love her. If you ever 586 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 8: wanted on on his conversation and go to that girl. 587 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 8: I've learned so much from her and I want to 588 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 8: follow her everywhere. She's a pioneer in this new realm 589 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 8: of reality TV and sports for women, and I can't 590 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 8: wait to see where she goes with it, but I 591 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 8: also want her to bring me along for all that 592 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 8: I have to be her plus one. I have so 593 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 8: much fun every time I do stuff like that with her. 594 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: Do you watch reality shows differently now that you've been 595 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: on it, Like, do you see people through a different lens? 596 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 8: I would say so. My husband and I mainly watch 597 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 8: like documentaries, so we're not the biggest reality TV. But 598 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 8: like the all the Netflix sports ones, for sure, I 599 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 8: can be like, they're in the heat of the moment 600 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 8: getting filmed and I'm like, I know why they were 601 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 8: reacting like that on Formula One. At least ours was 602 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 8: chill in Miami. 603 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: We got to take a break more with low right 604 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: after this. You know, last year was a dream regular 605 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: season for the Current, but a loss to got them 606 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: in the Semis and died the hopes for the double double, 607 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: the Shield Championship double. You know, looking back with a 608 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: little distance on it now, can you say what went 609 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: wrong in that game? And at the end of the season, Yeah. 610 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 8: I mean there's there's not just one answer to what happened, right, 611 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 8: There was a lot of things happening, But at the 612 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 8: end of the day, I would say GoF them has 613 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 8: a lot of players who have experience in gamesmanship and 614 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 8: know how to manage big moments like that. I think 615 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 8: a lot of them have been it like they like 616 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 8: I said, they want it before, they've gone from eight 617 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 8: to lift the trophy, and so they know how to 618 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 8: be in those moments. And I would say, maybe we 619 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 8: were just a little innocent in that aspect. And yeah, 620 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 8: at the end of the day, I think the more 621 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 8: experienced team one because it I don't think it had 622 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 8: anything to do with game plan or grit Like bull 623 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 8: teams were good. It was a pretty even game, so 624 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 8: I think at the end of the day, that's maybe 625 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 8: what helped them push it over the edge and win 626 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 8: that game. 627 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously would have helped if Tim Washewingo was there. 628 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: That's always tough to lose one of your best players. 629 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 8: But I'm all the big ballers. 630 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Cooper to Michelle Cooper, you know I am 631 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: cluing in though, And you said gamesmanship and you said 632 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: maybe your team was a little innocent, So that sounds 633 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: to me more like are you talking about and Katrick Berger, 634 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: are you talking about looking for penalties? Like what do 635 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: you mean by games? 636 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 8: No? No, no, I I think there's there's certain there's 637 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 8: certain things in soccer that you don't necessarily get taught. 638 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 8: It's you learn it by playing games. And usually a 639 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 8: lot of times it is like you mentioned Burger, she 640 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 8: is one of the best at it. She can know 641 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 8: when she needs to get the ball and put her 642 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 8: team on a counter attack. She also knows when to 643 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 8: put her foot on the ball and just you know. 644 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: Maybe her whole body exactly. 645 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 8: For maybe called the coach out and talk with her 646 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 8: out there. But those are certain things that's that's the 647 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 8: management of a game that some players they just have 648 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 8: that in them, and I think they have a few 649 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 8: you know on it as well. But then they also 650 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 8: have players that Jaden Shaw can make something out of nothing. 651 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 8: So that's where I say they they had all the 652 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 8: pieces that you kind of usually need for a championship team. 653 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: Well, now you have even more experience, so you'll go 654 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: in with some of those tricks in your book. When 655 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: this season started, how much did y'all talk about how 656 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: last season ended and you know, thinking about unfinished business? 657 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you know it was. There were a 658 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 8: lot of different conversations being had and there was a 659 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 8: lot of turnover in our club as well. So it 660 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 8: was almost like, all right, we have to have this 661 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 8: one conversation and then we have to put it behind 662 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 8: us because this is a new year. We can't change 663 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 8: anything about that moment. We hopefully learned from that and 664 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 8: now we got to start the new year fresh. 665 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: You have a new coach, Chris Armis. How's that transition been? 666 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 8: Oh, I mean, I think the guy wants to put 667 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 8: on a jersey and be out there with us like 668 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 8: he's he he's so excited, so it's hard not to 669 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 8: match that energy every day. 670 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: What kind of coaches he like? What vibes does he bring? 671 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 8: He brings the energy like this, and he and I play, 672 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 8: or he played. He's no longer playing, but he played 673 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 8: my position. And so I think he loves to come 674 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 8: and talk to me about how he sees things. And 675 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 8: I can feel that he literally wants to put his 676 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 8: boots on, pull up his socks and get out there, 677 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 8: and so I think it's easy for him to communicate 678 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 8: what he wants us to do. So yeah, he's very, 679 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 8: very involved, very high energy. You're a good guy. 680 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: You found so much success under vladco and Danovsky, and 681 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: he was a huge part of helping communicate with Emma 682 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: Hayes that you were deserving of those caps up at 683 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: the national team. He's still in the building. He's now 684 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: the sporting director for the club. Do you still go 685 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: to him for advice or for a coach up or 686 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: do you feel like you could if you wanted to? 687 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 8: Oh? Absolutely, And don't get me wrong, he's still around 688 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 8: so I don't even have to ask. He let me. 689 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: Solicited device. 690 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 8: Yes, And it's funny. I feel like I can answer 691 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 8: with him a little more now because he's not the 692 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 8: head coach and I'll make a comment to him and 693 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 8: I'll be like, you don't get to say that to me. 694 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 8: You're not controlling the starting lineup. 695 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: Video my dad anymore. 696 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 8: Coach exactly. I'm like, go go do whatever your title 697 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 8: your job is now. 698 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: Are we still going to get any bets between him 699 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: and Tema though, because I want some more bets. I 700 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: want her to be stepping up and almost immediately pulling 701 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: off whatever he challenged her too, because that's how it 702 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: happened last time. 703 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 8: It is and the that's the greatest thing I think 704 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 8: that I've seen out of black dudes, Like he just 705 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 8: knows how to get even more out of Temla because 706 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 8: it's hard to ask for more from her. Right She's 707 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 8: the fastest, she works the hardest, she scores the most goals. Like, 708 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 8: she's just the best person in the locker room. I 709 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 8: was even telling her today, I was like, Tilly, you 710 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 8: need to speak up a little more. You're funny. So 711 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 8: she does it all. And if there's one thing black 712 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 8: is going to do, it's going to raise the bar 713 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 8: on people's skill levels. And he truly has with her. 714 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 8: So I'm I don't even know what he's gonna ask 715 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 8: of her, but I know she would want to do 716 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 8: it for him. 717 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if the listeners have suggestions of things that 718 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: Timba has not yet accomplished, we can send him on 719 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: over to the current. Does it feel like sometimes it's 720 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: hard to replace someone who's had great success like black Go, 721 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: especially if they are still in the building. Does it 722 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: feel like they're working together. Does it feel like there's 723 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: a pretty clear line between what Chris is trying to 724 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: do and what black Co's role is. 725 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 8: Yeah? Absolutely, I think too. You know, they when Chris 726 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 8: was being hired, they were having conversations before and then 727 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 8: when Chris came in, he was like I'm here because 728 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 8: that guy brought me, and so they already had that 729 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 8: instant partnership and that's cool, right. You don't want to 730 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 8: divide in the facility at all. We can't be having 731 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 8: divides in our own homes. So they immediately wanted to 732 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 8: work together. And a lot of the processes we do 733 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 8: are black list processes he put in with the team 734 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 8: the last couple of years, and Chris is obviously put 735 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 8: his own twist on it, but he's there doing it 736 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 8: as well. So we're coming together for sure. 737 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: Kind Of a slow start to the season. Two wins, 738 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: three losses, plenty of time to move up the table. 739 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: What do you need to work on the most? What 740 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: needs to improve to put more wins on the board. 741 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think my biggest win right now would be 742 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 8: getting a shut out. You know, even in this till 743 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 8: Rising Cup, we were still getting goals scored on us. 744 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 8: So that that's something we as a group have agreed 745 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 8: upon that we need to be better at. And one 746 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 8: thing Chris wants us to do is keep the ball 747 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 8: more and that is my favorite thing ever. I love 748 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 8: having the ball, I hate chasing the ball. So it's 749 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 8: been something we've been working on in this international break, 750 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 8: and I'm excited to see us actually implement it in 751 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 8: the season again. 752 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like a bye in the NFL, 753 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: like it came at a good time for your team, Like, okay, 754 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: tough start, get our shit together, get back out there 755 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: after the international break. I saw I report this week 756 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: that the NWSL is working on a program for league 757 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: wide cleat and goalkeeper glove exposure agreements, basically forcing players 758 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: that are wearing non partner sponsorship deals to cover up 759 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: their brand logos and matches pay fines if they don't. 760 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: Do you think this is going to keep players from 761 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 1: signing with other brands or players probably just dutifully cover 762 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: the logos and wear what they feel good in. 763 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 8: I think players have to look good, feel good, and 764 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 8: they will then play good. I think one of the 765 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 8: biggest examples is Kayla Sharples. You know, she's started wearing 766 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 8: this new cleat that has she's been crushing in, Like 767 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 8: there's been no better advocate I think for that cleat 768 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 8: than Kayla right now. She's been so successful since she's 769 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 8: worn those so and there's a reason why she's wearing 770 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 8: She didn't just wear them because the style but now 771 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,959 Speaker 8: that she's rocking them and there is a reason why 772 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 8: it's just so good that it's also teel. But yeah, players, 773 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 8: players should not have to just be in one that's 774 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 8: that's what the jerseys or right, that's the uniform. Then 775 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 8: you can wear your head bands, your cleats and all that, 776 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 8: but the league wants that. I'm just like, just just 777 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 8: pay us more than right. 778 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna say so, shout out to Katock's cleats, 779 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: which I know Kayla is a sponsor for, and they're 780 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: specifically designed to reduce injuries and female athletes, particularly acl 781 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: and ankle and we're here for that as much as 782 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: possibly can help. But it does feel like a financial 783 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: stream to the league that might then prevent that same 784 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: stream to the players, either because they won't be getting 785 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: individual sponsorship deals if the money's going to the league 786 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: to ensure that that's what they're wearing, or they might 787 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: not be able to get that financial little boost from 788 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: a different company if they don't feel like their logos 789 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: will actually be out there. So that'll be interesting to 790 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: see what happens with that. Speaking of Kayla Sharples, it 791 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: was at her nuptials that you taught me your viral 792 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: sally m to work not as good as yours, not surprisingly, 793 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: but I'm not the only one who's copied it. Travis 794 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: Kelcey among the other famous pro athletes who saw your 795 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: celebration and decided to copy it. How did you come 796 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: up with that? And how many games did you have 797 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: to wait before scoring so that you could bust it out? 798 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, I think I came up with that 799 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 8: because I one, when I'm in the locker room, I'm absurd, 800 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 8: Like you guys think I'm absurd here in the locker room, 801 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 8: I'm another beef. And so I was just like, come on, 802 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 8: you guys, like we need to start celebrating our goals. 803 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 8: We we were not having the year before, we weren't 804 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 8: having the best of years, so it was like, how 805 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 8: can we you know, how can we really bring the 806 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 8: ner joy yet? And so other players were scoring, So 807 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 8: I initially started coming up with celebrations for other players. 808 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 8: I'm like, you got to do this, you got to 809 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 8: do this, and they're like, yeah, but what about you? 810 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 8: And I go, ugh, I as a six, like older 811 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 8: I've gotten the more I've dropped in the lineup, like 812 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 8: on the field, so I'm like a defensive player this year, 813 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 8: and I'm like, well, if I score, I'll do this, 814 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 8: and then like I'll tork and everybody was like, no way, no, 815 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 8: you won't, and I go, you guys don't know me then, 816 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 8: because I will absolutely. So the one game that I 817 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 8: actually said I was gonna do it, I it was 818 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 8: in San Diego and there's one only one PK I've 819 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 8: ever missed in the league, and I was I think 820 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 8: it was because I was already thinking about doing this celebration. Ye, 821 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 8: but keeper saves it and I was like, oh my god, 822 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 8: I have to focus next time. And so that next 823 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 8: game it happened again. I was like I'm not missing this. 824 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 8: I'm not missing this, and I made it. And I 825 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 8: think when you see that, I was truly just about 826 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 8: to be so hyped. And then I was like, oh my. 827 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: God, remember yes, Yeah, oh my god, definitely said it. Yeah, 828 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: what's the next selly in the chamber? What do we 829 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: got cook it up for? Next goal? 830 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 8: Oh? Well, speaking of Kayla Sharples, her and I came 831 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 8: up with one. And there's actually a USA woman's rugby 832 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 8: game in our stadium tomorrow, and so Kayla and I 833 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 8: when we went to visit the rugby team and see 834 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 8: them at practice. We gave them our so if they 835 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 8: do it, we'll have to come up with another one, 836 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 8: which I'll like you. But yes, that's that's the next one. 837 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 8: And then after that, I don't know, because our attack 838 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 8: right now and our team is so good, I don't 839 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 8: know if I'll be up there at all. 840 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: Anyway, Well, we saw you do the baby, the casey 841 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,479 Speaker 1: Babay rocking the baby. Maybe we should give you. Maybe 842 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: instead of demanding the temwa chief even greater heights that 843 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: we can't even think of, we should just start giving 844 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: you seally ideas. 845 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 8: For her, please, I will, I will take them all. Something. 846 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 8: It's really hard to get her to do some seals. 847 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 8: I think there was two that I've gotten her to do, 848 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 8: and one it just happened to be where she blew 849 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 8: out the candles for her birthday. But again, she's so humble. 850 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 8: Her and Debina like the best players in the world 851 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 8: and so humble. 852 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: What's that like? Yeah, couldn't be me, It couldn't be TV. 853 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 1: After a peekg I mean, I would have so many 854 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: sellis in the chamber just ready, like way too many, 855 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: like an inordinate amount for the amount of goals I 856 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: would ever score, but they would be ready just in case. 857 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: You know, you are very funny, very outspoken. You like 858 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: to have fun. You and your hobby former sport in 859 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: Kansas City player Roger Spinoza. You teased a new addition 860 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: to the household last year. You posted a cute little 861 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: pick of the two of you with a one plus 862 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: one equals three. You posted a little bun in the 863 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: oven photo. Everyone got all excited, but psych it was 864 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: a dog. Uh, it was a mego. I love a pity. 865 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: I have pities, So tell me everything about Amigo. 866 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 8: Amigo. And so Amigo was a gift from my birthday 867 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 8: gift last year from my husband and it's because he 868 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 8: started coaching and he was never going to be around, Like, 869 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 8: I don't see that man anymore. I don't know where 870 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 8: he is coaching line could never be for me because 871 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 8: oh my god, those hours are insane. So he was like, hey, 872 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 8: just so you know, we're getting a dog today, and 873 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 8: I was like, you're lying, just dropped everything. I'm like, 874 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 8: I'm going and I'm I'm ready wherever it is him. 875 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 8: We're pulling up in this little chunky like when I'm 876 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 8: telling you this dog is so chunky. We pull up 877 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 8: and the lady's like, this is the last dog and 878 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 8: his name is Chunk. I was like, oh my god, 879 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 8: Like I was like, I have to keep is like 880 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 8: that has to be his name. But we had already 881 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 8: come up with the name on the way because we 882 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 8: used to have an English bulldog. His name was too low. Okay, yeah, 883 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 8: we like had to keep it along the Latino names, 884 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 8: and we came up with Amigo. And he's just a funny, 885 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 8: dorky now massive dog, Like he's a year old and 886 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 8: he's still just as floppy, just as happy. Oh it 887 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 8: makes me laugh. 888 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: I love it. I do. Like, I mean, we like 889 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: your husband, so we're not gonna shame him for being 890 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: gone all the time and being the one who surprised 891 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: you with the dog. Okay, we're getting a dog by 892 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: the way. Seeah, good luck with the potty training and 893 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: picking up the hoop and all the other things. You know, 894 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: you did get some sponsorship deals with Migo too, though, 895 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: so I guess you know, shout shouts of the dog 896 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: for getting that bag. So final question, since you just 897 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: mentioned the coaching thing, wouldn't be yours? Back to the 898 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 1: engineering degree Stanford Engineering no less. So when your soccer 899 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: career is over, do you see yourself like staying in 900 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: the sport with broadcasting or something, or do you want 901 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 1: to get back into whatever drew you to that engineering major. 902 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 8: I think both. I think that would be the best 903 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 8: balance for me. I absolutely want to remain in sports 904 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 8: like this has been my life. This is what has 905 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 8: always brought me joy. There's community in sport, and so 906 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 8: I will continue to do stuff with that. I mean 907 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 8: we actually, my husband and I also just in one 908 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 8: of our friends here open a little indoor facilities where 909 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 8: we can coach low income kids, and that I can coach. 910 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 8: I can't coach like top notch competitive sports because I 911 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 8: know I'm gonna be just like Chris. I'm gonna be 912 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 8: out on the field. I want to be tackling and 913 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 8: I I just can't do that, probably at that age, 914 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 8: whenever it gets to that. But I definitely want to 915 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 8: remain in sports. Broadcast is fine because I love highlighting 916 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 8: this league, I love highlighting the International League, so that 917 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 8: would definitely be ideal. But in engineering, I don't know 918 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 8: if I'll get back into engineering. That's a lot of 919 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 8: school again. 920 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, You are a natural at being on camera. 921 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: You are a light that really lights up every room. 922 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: So you got a bright future ahead of you after soccer, 923 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: but we want to enjoy watching you for a long 924 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: time before then and wishing you the best of success 925 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. 926 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 8: Oh you just making me feel so good. Thank you. 927 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: Thanks again to Low for taking the time to hang 928 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: out with us, and don't forget you can now watch 929 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: full length Good Game interviews on the Iheartwomen's Sports YouTube channel, 930 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 1: so be sure to subscribe. We got to take another 931 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: break when we come back. There's hope in the numbers. 932 00:46:53,800 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: Stick around. Welcome back, Slices. We love that you're listening, 933 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: but we want you to get in the game every 934 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: day too, So here's our good game play of the day. 935 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: Keep sending us your takeaways from WNBA free agency and 936 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,919 Speaker 1: the draft. We want to hear what you're thinking about 937 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 1: your team and other teams, like Super Slice and Good Games. 938 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: Chief Accessibility Officer Amanda Vallo, who's not sure what she's 939 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: seeing from the Portland fire so far, she wrote us 940 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 1: in part quote Iana Martin Carrion, who how am I 941 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: supposed to get up for a draft? In stash, They 942 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: also rostered a spot for injured Nika Mule, a lead 943 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: guard who will be sitting out a year, and hired 944 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: head coach Alex Samara, whose constraints let approach is heady 945 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: and takes time to learn. With the new CBA and 946 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: speed with which everything came together. I want to be 947 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 1: a firefan, but it feels like being handed a flaming 948 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: pile of poo. Please get someone on the squad with 949 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: a little name recognition. We can rally and get behind 950 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: end quote. All right, Amanda, I've got three words for you, 951 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 1: Golden State Valkyries. Go back and see what folks were 952 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: saying about the Bays expansion team around this time last year. 953 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: Who are these players? Why didn't more stars choose to come? 954 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: What's the plan? And the plan apparently was to become 955 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: the first WNBA expansion team to make the postseason in 956 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: their first year. Now, I'm not saying that that's going 957 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: to happen with Portland. I'm just saying, let's not invoke 958 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: flaming pooh until and unless the Portland Fires record demands it. 959 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: Thanks for writing in, though, everyone else, please write in 960 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: or call in and tell us what you're thinking about 961 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: the WNBA teams heading into the season. We always love 962 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: to hear from you. 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Going 970 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,439 Speaker 1: back in league history, anytime a team has had back 971 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 1: to back number one picks in the WNBA Draft, that 972 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 1: team has gone on to win a title within three years. 973 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: The Seattle Storm did it first, winning in two thousand 974 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: and four after drafting number one picks Lauren Jackson and 975 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 1: Sue Byrd in two thousand and one and two thousand 976 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: and two, respectively. The Storm then did it again in 977 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen after drafting Jewel Lloyd and Ranna Stewart in 978 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen and sixteen. Las Vegas entered the mix in 979 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two after selecting three straight number one picks 980 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 1: Kelsey Plumb in twenty seventeen, Asia Wilson in twenty eighteen, 981 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: and Jackie Young in twenty nineteen. Now, Fever and Wings 982 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 1: fans are hoping their teams make good on this pattern, 983 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: with Indiana boasting back to back number ones in Eliah 984 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: Boston and Caitlin Clark, and Dallas putting its hopes on 985 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: Pagebeckers and Asy Fud. Only time will tell, But Fever, 986 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: you're on the clock. Now it's your turn. Y'all rate 987 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: and review. Thanks for listening, See you next week. 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