Speaker 1: Hello, New York City. All right, thank you so much. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm out here, really to my wife. Put me up
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Speaker 1: you earned that, you fire. I didn't hear you. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys so much for being here. Hi wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and why Sue is it about you? Guys? You know
Speaker 1: I'm a Jersey girl. Where my Jersey girls, Dad Jersey.
Speaker 1: I'm at my bridging tunnel. Girl. Guys, this is this
Speaker 1: is a true up. Do y'all know that the first
Speaker 1: time the three of us were ever in New York
Speaker 1: together was to do t R L anybody one tree
Speaker 1: year that we saw We went to see a Broadway show.
Speaker 1: We saw Kristen and Adina do Wicked like the original,
Speaker 1: which is it's We were talking about this backstage because
Speaker 1: it feels like such. I don't know, it's it's poetry
Speaker 1: in motion that we went to see altogether a show
Speaker 1: all about female friendship. And here we are creating a
Speaker 1: show for you guys in New York all about female friendship.
Speaker 1: I mean, not that I'm like comparing us to Adina
Speaker 1: and Kristen like all, but it's fine. Well look, okay,
Speaker 1: that's it. Join us for the podcast. Um, this is
Speaker 1: my first time doing stage good Yeah, you look good.
Speaker 1: Down up. You guys are very first Broadway stage show.
Speaker 1: This is us. We don't me real Broadway. We're Downtown girls,
Speaker 1: real Broadway, down town girls. So once a week we
Speaker 1: get together and we get to watch the show, take
Speaker 1: a lap down memory Lane, and record our podcast together.
Speaker 1: So it feels really really special. This is our first
Speaker 1: time out recording with an audience. So thank you guys
Speaker 1: for being a part of our show. Tonight. Can we
Speaker 1: get a big drama queens for everyone listening at home? Okay? Awesome? Um,
Speaker 1: who here is following us on social media. That's cool,
Speaker 1: that feels okay. So you know that we're on this
Speaker 1: RV trip. We didn't look like this on the RV trip. Guys,
Speaker 1: let me tell you, let me girls tell him how
Speaker 1: I went this morning. Well, you're a lunatic when you drive. Listen.
Speaker 1: I have to give you props because she got the
Speaker 1: RV on Friday. I don't know Friday, because we met
Speaker 1: up on Saturday and had one day to practice. And
Speaker 1: today getting across the George Washington Bridge in a thirty
Speaker 1: ft vehicle, y'all, I had to hang out the window
Speaker 1: like this, and I'm so sorry. Please Sophia made friends
Speaker 1: washing the crowd and the flowers just to like throw
Speaker 1: at the passengers WB, like please let us through. You know,
Speaker 1: we only got in a couple fights. But it's good
Speaker 1: if you're going to get in a fight to me
Speaker 1: with this crowd, because it's all fistic count. Soph and
Speaker 1: I were in the back. There's a mattress in the
Speaker 1: back of the r V and the first thing we
Speaker 1: did this morning after we got out of the hotel
Speaker 1: was like crawl into the bed at the back and
Speaker 1: just go to pull the covers up and we went
Speaker 1: to sleep, and then they started up the RV and
Speaker 1: it was like it was like to play that on
Speaker 1: the streets of Boston. It was okay, Well we learned
Speaker 1: is that when you hit a bump that feels normal
Speaker 1: in the front of a vehicle thirty ft long. By
Speaker 1: the time hits the back, it's kind of like an earthquake, airborne,
Speaker 1: fully airborne. The two of us just floating in this match.
Speaker 1: The matches that I have a rear view mirror that
Speaker 1: does zero for me in navigation. I can't see anything
Speaker 1: behind me, but I can see when their bodies catch
Speaker 1: air because you can see the light underneath their bodies.
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll have to set up a camera in
Speaker 1: the van. I really think that's the fun idea. Let's
Speaker 1: do that. Oh my god, are we doing Peyton's webcam
Speaker 1: jokes on you too? Fine? Fine, Okay, So we're all
Speaker 1: about journeys. We're all about trips with your best friends.
Speaker 1: Who is here with their best friends? I love that? Okay,
Speaker 1: tell them what we're doing. Well, so there's this super
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Speaker 1: we love our r V. We're not jealous that perhaps
Speaker 1: two of you in this very audience might be going
Speaker 1: to the Caribbean. That's fine. We're happy for you. Good
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Speaker 1: how are you? I can't see anything, but we know
Speaker 1: you're here. That there's tequila. I too. Are you gonna
Speaker 1: make us a cocktail? I feel like I should make
Speaker 1: something out of it. It appears we have a cocktail.
Speaker 1: Tell them what we're doing. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. Okay, this is actually one
Speaker 1: of my favorites because I love it. I love grapefruit
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Speaker 1: a cheap Caribbean spicy paloma. Okay, wait, where's my microphone?
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's your why Now Joy is putting in
Speaker 1: one of do the announce her voice. She's got to
Speaker 1: find her tools. How many of you just eyeballs made
Speaker 1: the drinks that we make on our show? Anybody? Yeah? Okay?
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Speaker 1: and you can be drinking pineapple juice on the beach
Speaker 1: before you know it. That's what more could you? I
Speaker 1: don't know? Three quarters announce of grap fruit soa well
Speaker 1: juice because if you put soda in there and then
Speaker 1: you shake it, it's gonna be She never measures, and
Speaker 1: wait till you see her shake this. It's going to
Speaker 1: be a disaster. See me shake it, It's a disaster.
Speaker 1: Every time? Where's my jigger? Did they bring you a towel? Tonight.
Speaker 1: Oh they did. It's over there as well. We've got
Speaker 1: a gove it so it's a half an ounce of
Speaker 1: a gove syrup, which feels like that much science, and
Speaker 1: then halipino, which we want shake. So all right, you
Speaker 1: don't want to shake the halopenio? Yeah, front, give her
Speaker 1: a d people encourage our gas. Yes, yes, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get cups for you. Okay, yeah, oh oh you guys
Speaker 1: paid extra for that. All right, here it comes, give it,
Speaker 1: give it. You need your You need to top it off.
Speaker 1: You gotta top it off with soda and a little jalapeno. Alright,
Speaker 1: make a beautiful because here's here's what's gonna happen. You finished. Listen,
Speaker 1: I need a friend. Are they drinking about here? Who
Speaker 1: has an I D? Okay, no, listen, stop stop it
Speaker 1: right now. We had so much underage drinking on our show.
Speaker 1: We don't condone it. The first person to show me
Speaker 1: their I D gets the drink. Come on, I D you.
Speaker 1: It's you, it's you, she said, Holy, okay, no past
Speaker 1: an address? Okay, what do you want to happen? Or no?
Speaker 1: Pass me there? Okay, I don't Hey, guys, is it
Speaker 1: Ashley or Iris? Ashley Iris is our new best friends. Babe,
Speaker 1: where are you from? You're from New York sate. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna tell anybody your address. Would you have you?
Speaker 1: You are one? She's one, No, she's twenty seven. I
Speaker 1: could do math science. Son. Oh, the changed the New
Speaker 1: York stage, so sl okay, Ashley Iris? You do are
Speaker 1: you kidding? So do you deliver babies? Oh? No, I
Speaker 1: worked on worth of traditional size. You gotta deal with
Speaker 1: a bunch of cranky women. God bless you baby. You
Speaker 1: needed that drink, sharing that drink. Give it up for
Speaker 1: Ashley Iris. Don't take pictures out my dress? All right, ladies? Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you make me a drink? Is it that time?
Speaker 1: Sophia's breaking ice? You need an ice pick. We were
Speaker 1: taking pictures backstage. We realized we all looked like the
Speaker 1: twins from The Shining I don't think we didn't take
Speaker 1: that picture. Yeah, check your feet. So I feel like
Speaker 1: we have such strong female energy in the house today.
Speaker 1: M hm, we should probably bring out some other strong females.
Speaker 1: I think it's time. Are you ready? Ready? Are you ready? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can make more drinks once they're out, more drinks,
Speaker 1: more drinks? Are you starting task to hang out ready,
Speaker 1: Are you okay? You? Gosh, she's working so hard. She's
Speaker 1: like Donna Summer. She works hard for the money, so
Speaker 1: hard for it. Honey. But you look fabulous. You're fabulous
Speaker 1: tonight are me? And look how fabulous these women are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool. Hey, listen, I love the first Daffy's first
Speaker 1: order of business is to fix our skirt to make
Speaker 1: sure that it isn't talked. She says, you're showing your
Speaker 1: everyone backstage. We're like, well, they know us. If we
Speaker 1: had only known, we'd be wearing our puffy dresses too.
Speaker 1: You guys, honestly, you set the bar so so high
Speaker 1: for us because we got to look up to you
Speaker 1: in so many different ways as businesswomen, as actresses, as
Speaker 1: like our mentors. So thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1: Mess I'm sorry, yeah, hair hair you is this that
Speaker 1: I'm cheap Caribbean Paloma girl? Yes? Love it? Business were
Speaker 1: I'm so good for you. A little homage to deaf Scott.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right baby. What did you say, Barbara? What
Speaker 1: did you say? What did a little homage to deb Scott?
Speaker 1: Oh there it is, y'all are cheering loud? I like
Speaker 1: it had you gotten to play a bad girl before? Um,
Speaker 1: dep did start out as a bad girl. She was
Speaker 1: really sort of the voice of reason at first, and
Speaker 1: Daftne and I were just talking about this. I think
Speaker 1: as the writer's got to know who I really was,
Speaker 1: she's sort of, um, I don't know, evolved, evolved that's
Speaker 1: a great word. Um, but became so much more fun,
Speaker 1: Like who wants to be the good girl? It's not
Speaker 1: as fun. And that's true. You've got bad there started bad.
Speaker 1: We kind of swam, yeah we did. Um So I
Speaker 1: was just so happy. So um yeah, started out good,
Speaker 1: went a lot worse and loved every minute of it.
Speaker 1: You had so much fun. I loved watching you work.
Speaker 1: You're just you came in so effortless, and we always
Speaker 1: just respected so much both of you guys. The way
Speaker 1: you came in here. We were blown away by your
Speaker 1: I mean, that was not effortless for me to be
Speaker 1: that bitch. I just want to make a point. Definite's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm so nice guys. Yeah. But then I spent a
Speaker 1: couple of months with that place, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. Um, I can find things to be
Speaker 1: piste off about it. Took a lot of It was
Speaker 1: hard to be mean at first, but um, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad that Victoria did warm up of course with this
Speaker 1: one here, and we had some great storylines. We really did.
Speaker 1: It really did. And because I'm older than these guys,
Speaker 1: I had to watch it recently because I didn't remember
Speaker 1: what the hell happened on the show. We don't remember either.
Speaker 1: We don't. Okay, so as long as you don't ask
Speaker 1: what's your favorite moment? No one asked that. But anyway, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I know, Victoria started out really bitchy
Speaker 1: and it was hard for me in the beginning, and
Speaker 1: you know, I got some direction. Can you even meaner? Meaner?
Speaker 1: And then I was just pissed and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: And then I remember coming to the makeup trailer A
Speaker 1: couple of times were on set. I think Joy was
Speaker 1: there and the makeup trailer and just I'm going to
Speaker 1: show these m effers and I came in on the
Speaker 1: characters anyway, I just end a couple of times they
Speaker 1: would look at me going and I'm like, I'm kidding,
Speaker 1: you know, because I would come on like everybody was
Speaker 1: scared of Daphne, Yeah, except me. Though, because I remember
Speaker 1: I was like, I have this distinct memory of being
Speaker 1: at the craft service table with you, and we were
Speaker 1: at the recording studio. I don't know why I remember this,
Speaker 1: but I remember being there and I heard you make
Speaker 1: a joke. It was some sarcastic remark. I don't remember
Speaker 1: what it was, but it was to a crew member
Speaker 1: who was next to you, and he didn't laugh. And
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, Oh, she's got a dry sense of humor,
Speaker 1: like she's joking. I love this woman. And it was
Speaker 1: like instantly, because I wasn't sure. I hadn't worked with
Speaker 1: you a lot, but I had heard everybody was like
Speaker 1: a little nervous because you were doing this. You were
Speaker 1: being in care to her and doing what they asked
Speaker 1: you to do. So that was really fun. And suddenly
Speaker 1: it shifted everything around and I was like following you
Speaker 1: around like a puppy dog. I feel like I followed
Speaker 1: you everywhere in Welmington. I was always calling you like
Speaker 1: Deepnie could be my friend, Defne, Defne done. I love you.
Speaker 1: It was always so funny to me that people were
Speaker 1: intimidated by you because we were in love immediately, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, you guys she's really amazing. But
Speaker 1: then people would come do scenes with her and she
Speaker 1: would like turn on the Victoria eyes, the ice face,
Speaker 1: and everyone was like, she's so scary, and I was like,
Speaker 1: she's just a really good actress. Yeah, she's really good.
Speaker 1: She's really good. Because my first interaction with you is
Speaker 1: like you tearing Peyton a new one, like you're just
Speaker 1: like no time for your kid, and it, like, to me,
Speaker 1: felt real. And I've been on the show for years
Speaker 1: and was like, what just happened? Dynamic is shifted, the
Speaker 1: boss is here, and so for you, I mean, we
Speaker 1: grew up watching things that you were in Daphne and
Speaker 1: there was a lot of like, oh my god, she's
Speaker 1: coming here. I couldn't believe we got you. We were
Speaker 1: like just amazed. And so the difference in like when
Speaker 1: you were coming up versus like where we were on
Speaker 1: one Tree Hill, Like what were the differences that you noticed?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, um, oh god, I can't think far back.
Speaker 1: Give her the drink, Give her the drink. Where's your
Speaker 1: cheap Caribbean spice? People to say it was nice, you know,
Speaker 1: and Barbara will agree with me, right, Barbara, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I agree everything. We never did a scene together. It
Speaker 1: just sucks, man. I don't even know if we ran
Speaker 1: into each other in the makeup trailer. We never crossed paths.
Speaker 1: It's just so bizark, like we would have been friends.
Speaker 1: I wish we had just known each other and hung out, Like,
Speaker 1: what would that scene? This crazy? Yeah? What would the
Speaker 1: deb Victoria? What would have happened this? I need that
Speaker 1: spin off? Well, yeah, we were having fun just driving
Speaker 1: over here in the backseat doing videos and my daughter
Speaker 1: daughter was doing the video. She was like, she was
Speaker 1: video tape. She said, oh my god, this you guys
Speaker 1: have to do a show like an older thumb on
Speaker 1: Louise or something. I don't know, like something, because I
Speaker 1: were driving down here and I'm like, everyone posts every
Speaker 1: freaking minute of their life, like we should be posting. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so to hold this someone video us. And then her
Speaker 1: daughter Emily was like, do you want me to do it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You wanna post it? I'm like, do you want me
Speaker 1: to tag her? Do you want to tag the drama
Speaker 1: Queen's ot. I'm like, yeah, do it all edited, do
Speaker 1: it put it on, put it in a story post.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, Well, you're saying is you have
Speaker 1: an influencer assistant who lives with you. It's my social
Speaker 1: media assistant, Emily. Yeah, family, raise your hands were very stressful.
Speaker 1: So Barbara has the privilege of working with her daughter
Speaker 1: right now. And but you, I mean, I have so
Speaker 1: many questions because, first of all, when you came on
Speaker 1: the show, you were a mom to all of us.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this before when you came on,
Speaker 1: but just to reiterate, I mean, Barbara was our first
Speaker 1: like big warm mom hug on this show that we
Speaker 1: could always arms that were always open, that we could
Speaker 1: go to, and I know you had to kind of
Speaker 1: shepherd us. And James was so he was the youngest
Speaker 1: on the show. He was and you're my wish and
Speaker 1: your kids were so young at the time. But now
Speaker 1: that they're older and in the industry, what I mean,
Speaker 1: did that sort of the experience that you had with
Speaker 1: us and with James and you know, all of us
Speaker 1: on that show, did that inform how you have raised
Speaker 1: your daughters in the industry because they work all the
Speaker 1: time and they're lovely people, very well adjusted. We're proud.
Speaker 1: It's amazing, and it's funny that you say we're proud
Speaker 1: because they really grew up on the set of One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill and I had my third while I was
Speaker 1: working and all of you know, because my boobs were
Speaker 1: like triple G and everyone thought I'd had a boom job.
Speaker 1: And that's right when social media kind of started. Like
Speaker 1: during One Tree Hill, you taught me how to send
Speaker 1: a text. I did yes on my flip phone. I
Speaker 1: had a flophone and everyone else was getting iPhones and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm never going to get an iPhone.
Speaker 1: I know, I'd like a little flip phone, but I
Speaker 1: had to like each letter and show. And then Sophia
Speaker 1: put me out. You put me on Twitter, and I
Speaker 1: still don't know my password. No, I don't know it
Speaker 1: even if you better have it in your phone somewhere.
Speaker 1: But and she said watch this, and I said I
Speaker 1: don't need to do that. She doesn't know watch this
Speaker 1: and then she signed me up and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: she's like followers, Like what it was just like overnight.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Oh and you got me on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Remember it's all sitting around. So one of the differences
Speaker 1: is back in the eighties and the nineties, we were
Speaker 1: like knitting and playing back avon and like reading or
Speaker 1: you know, having crushes or something, and then we're on
Speaker 1: this that I remember when we started. It wasn't the beginning,
Speaker 1: but we started to do the phones and do the
Speaker 1: social media, and I'm like, literally, everyone's just sit around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's toid of sad. And so you got me on though,
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, Sophia, what are you doing. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're fighting with the stummas. You you like. My favorite
Speaker 1: thing is when someone on the internet tells me that
Speaker 1: a fact about social science research isn't true, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: watch me reply to you with a thread, with a
Speaker 1: ten tweet thread, and we will send you articles research
Speaker 1: and published papers that have been peer reviewed. Mother, We're
Speaker 1: just gonna say adapt me. They they're here for us,
Speaker 1: they know who we really are. No um but I
Speaker 1: know how I felt the first time I played a
Speaker 1: woman with a teenage daughter and I it is like,
Speaker 1: you show up on set and you're like, WHOA, Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm mom now. Yeah, the first time you
Speaker 1: guys showed up and you're like, oh, these girls I
Speaker 1: can go drinking with our our kids. What was that
Speaker 1: experience like? Because it's not accurately so What I love
Speaker 1: now is that you are in your stage of life
Speaker 1: that we were probably, you know, while we were shooting
Speaker 1: One Tree Hill and you have little ones and getting
Speaker 1: married and I was doing all that during when as
Speaker 1: soon as I got the gig, and so I really
Speaker 1: didn't have teenagers at the time, and I didn't really
Speaker 1: know that the things you were doing were that inappropriate.
Speaker 1: I just thought, that's what kids do. I guess that's
Speaker 1: what I have to look forward to, that they're going
Speaker 1: to be sleeping around and drinking a lot when they're
Speaker 1: like fifteen, Like I, I I don't. You would never, Emily,
Speaker 1: you would never. And it wasn't until later when I
Speaker 1: actually had teenagers where I looked back and when that
Speaker 1: was really inappropriate to some of the things that you
Speaker 1: guys were doing. And then my kids watched the show
Speaker 1: because they were too young to watch at the time,
Speaker 1: they watched later and they were like, Mom, you were
Speaker 1: going to work working doing those things. We had no
Speaker 1: idea keep your clothes on. You know. What was the
Speaker 1: storyline that shocked them the most was it deb and
Speaker 1: skills in the Hunt Up. We loved it. There was
Speaker 1: one scene and I have to say, it's the only
Speaker 1: scene I think I've ever shot in my life that
Speaker 1: I've never seen because I couldn't watch it, and it
Speaker 1: was in front of the internet. When I flashed, I
Speaker 1: was a little bit more defined because you know, when
Speaker 1: you're shooting it, you have crew shooting it. So what
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a little bit awkward. And by
Speaker 1: then you know everybody so well, and believe it or not,
Speaker 1: it's almost more awkward to be vulnerable and put in
Speaker 1: front of people you know really well and you've worked
Speaker 1: with for seven years. And uh, it was a little
Speaker 1: bit strange. And that's the only scene seriously to this
Speaker 1: day that I've ever shot in my life that I
Speaker 1: never watched where you're on the billboard. No, I love that.
Speaker 1: I haven't done it yet. We haven't haven't got I
Speaker 1: was online and I just wanted to like sell myself,
Speaker 1: and so I flashed somebody. Yeah, somebody else can probably
Speaker 1: tell the story about we're not there yet. We're in
Speaker 1: season three. Calm down, Um, did you ever do anything
Speaker 1: on the show that you thought was inappropriate? Well, when
Speaker 1: I read the script, remember when I had that I
Speaker 1: took a young lover yea, which is not an issue
Speaker 1: I mean for me, I mean then anyway, I'm married now,
Speaker 1: but then, Yeah, it was odd to read the script where, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I was supposed to do things with him
Speaker 1: that I was like, I haven't done that in like
Speaker 1: fifty Why would I do that now? What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? He's the young ones supposed to be impressing me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like exactly kidding me. Anyway, I've always loved that about you.
Speaker 1: I got so when I at the time that I
Speaker 1: spent with you in Wilmington, I were just it's so
Speaker 1: dear to heart because I remember the confidence that you
Speaker 1: had and it was just so being so young and
Speaker 1: you know, impressionable. If we were in juggling so many
Speaker 1: personalities and things, it's just hard to hold yourself and
Speaker 1: have that confidence, you know. I to answer your question
Speaker 1: and on that joy and to answer your question, Hillary,
Speaker 1: I don't have kids, and I never um when I
Speaker 1: was playing your mom and you guys, I felt close
Speaker 1: and protective. I felt so protective, like you were my
Speaker 1: like my kids, like because because I know that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I was older and so I had been
Speaker 1: through already stuff when I was younger and trying you know,
Speaker 1: you're on set and people trying to get you all
Speaker 1: kinds of crazy, and I was like, you don't even
Speaker 1: pay me enough to not do that. I'm not wrong
Speaker 1: so anyway, But so I did feel protective, um, which
Speaker 1: I think worked for our relationship. It wasn't a motherly
Speaker 1: relationship anyway. It wasn't Larnel them in the beginning. On screen,
Speaker 1: you know, it was really amazing our closeness. I think
Speaker 1: was so fun for me as an actor, in such
Speaker 1: a respite from so much of what we were dealing
Speaker 1: with all the time at work. And as you were
Speaker 1: talking about what it was like when she would come in,
Speaker 1: and it's like I had like a almost like a
Speaker 1: flashback of it in my mind. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if we've ever told you this because you haven't been
Speaker 1: on the show yet. We're only in season three. She's coming,
Speaker 1: don't worry, just um. But when you would come to
Speaker 1: work set was different, mm hmmm. And maybe it's because
Speaker 1: people were scared of Victoria. Maybe it's because people you
Speaker 1: were you were a new grown up and you had
Speaker 1: that protective energy and yeah, I don't know. You know,
Speaker 1: they had pushed you in the wild girl zone and
Speaker 1: we didn't get to see you much like we didn't
Speaker 1: all get to work with you by that point, but
Speaker 1: you you became the mom who was doing mom I
Speaker 1: mean slash business things at work on set, and it
Speaker 1: was different when you were around. I think people were like,
Speaker 1: we really can't and it was so impressive to us.
Speaker 1: It was such a such a thing that you know,
Speaker 1: we've carried through the work we've done, is we've grown up. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm really glad. Yeah, I mean I've I
Speaker 1: have felt in the past when I was younger, very
Speaker 1: vulnerable on sets and very uh you know, and whether
Speaker 1: it's but um, you know, I just felt like young.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's such a vulnerable part of
Speaker 1: the population, young girls more than others, you know. And
Speaker 1: you guys weren't even that young when I came on
Speaker 1: it was season five, but um, you know, God, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna be sixty in two weeks. I'm not bragging. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not bragging. It's mortified. But I was about to
Speaker 1: say something and then I don't even know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So what's my excuse because that happens to me every day. No,
Speaker 1: But anyway, I did feel protective and also, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like I'm im it was too old to go
Speaker 1: and full around and like you better show up, you know,
Speaker 1: the filmmakers and the who's there and stuff and I
Speaker 1: and that's when it's fun for me when people take it.
Speaker 1: You guys taught us. You guys both taught us that
Speaker 1: because I remember all the times and MOI were too.
Speaker 1: I mean we looked up to you guys so much
Speaker 1: in professionalism and just trying to figure out the ropes
Speaker 1: of what are we doing. I mean I had I
Speaker 1: had probably been in the business the longest out of
Speaker 1: the three of us, because I started when I was
Speaker 1: like twelve. But I hadn't been an environment where, especially
Speaker 1: when you're a kid actor, you don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are really teaching you things and talking
Speaker 1: you through things. Um, which is why so many of
Speaker 1: them like go crazy. Um. But thank god I ended
Speaker 1: up on a show with women like you guys who
Speaker 1: it was just it was just in our space all
Speaker 1: the time to look at you and emulate and understand
Speaker 1: what professionalism looks like, and what a history of a
Speaker 1: career looks like, and what the expectation of uh, the
Speaker 1: performance on set should be like, not performance by actors,
Speaker 1: but how everyone is behaved, the behavior on set should
Speaker 1: It's so funny that you say that, because I think
Speaker 1: we looked up to you, if not more, I mean,
Speaker 1: the three of you were stellar in every way. Um.
Speaker 1: I learned so much from you guys, as I started
Speaker 1: getting emotional right now, I mean seriously so much. I
Speaker 1: mean not just like how to do Twitter. Like you
Speaker 1: guys were so impressive. And I have three daughters and
Speaker 1: I it's just the way I look at you now
Speaker 1: is sort of how I look at my three daughters.
Speaker 1: And I'm just so proud of all of you. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, what you're doing. And my twenty year old
Speaker 1: daughter said tonight, they have so much energy, Like where
Speaker 1: do they get it? It's just you are so impressive,
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of you, and I was then, and
Speaker 1: I'm even more. We need you guys in the RV.
Speaker 1: You want to you want to come with us? Who's driving? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who is driving? Hillary Jeffrey's backstage telling us that you
Speaker 1: were driving, and he was a little concerned, jeff to look.
Speaker 1: She she did. She is a really good driver. Actually
Speaker 1: I was just kidding before. She's but she was great,
Speaker 1: very cautious, hire a private driver the day before our
Speaker 1: tour started because he didn't trust me to drive the RV.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say that I won this fight.
Speaker 1: We just put a natch in the calum. You know
Speaker 1: who's responsible for the RV? Of it all our next guest.
Speaker 1: You guys, this man showed up at my farm drives
Speaker 1: an r V And if this thing gone could do it,
Speaker 1: I could definitely do it. Please give it up for Taylor? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what up New York? Do you want him to sing? God?
Speaker 1: Did I say? Says? But these ladies do some drinking,
Speaker 1: I think? Are you guys? Let me know if you
Speaker 1: need to hear anything loud or just be like we're
Speaker 1: the wheels running fast down the one eighteen. They ever
Speaker 1: kiss a sweeter with something nicketine and little white lightning
Speaker 1: underneath my seat? Oh yeah, sun's going down like a
Speaker 1: sinking stone. A dog's barking in the distance on the
Speaker 1: dorma bone. You got that look on your face like
Speaker 1: something's gonna go wrong. Oh yeah, oh yeah, at you look.
Speaker 1: It's so good in that cot in dress. It's just
Speaker 1: snow telling what I do next for my face? Showing
Speaker 1: a sharp bit fun. Stay away from my tuggar. I'm
Speaker 1: a loading gun. Stay away from my trigger. I'm a
Speaker 1: loading I'm a moving target. Baby. No one's gotten through me.
Speaker 1: Worth the shot. It was something that you want forget. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta find up crying. You got a righty order
Speaker 1: the text, but alone to swim. You gotta want to
Speaker 1: get away. There's don't turning back on. I'm ready. Don't
Speaker 1: want to await on my trigger. I'm a loaded god.
Speaker 1: Await from my trigger. I'm a loaded god. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't even say that. Sean Mike himself so embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I'm a load man. Squeeze me, honey, Yeah, well, cock
Speaker 1: me mama shooting, we'll shooting, man, sugar, I'm gonna moving
Speaker 1: talking baby. No one's gotten through me. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: stop me coning Worth a shot. It was something that
Speaker 1: you want forget. Yeah, yeah, I'll be gret Well, baby,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be your next time to after all the
Speaker 1: things I'm gonna do, do you. I don't have to
Speaker 1: round the basis shout, I hit home, run, stay away
Speaker 1: from the darling. I'm a loaded gun. Away from my trigger.
Speaker 1: I'm a loaded gun. Here it comes down fire for
Speaker 1: three to one, say away from my trigger. I'm a
Speaker 1: loaded gun. Oh man, thank you guys. Okay, ain't talk
Speaker 1: like that. You're somebody's dad, tyler you guys. He's saying
Speaker 1: that song last night in Boston and somebody screamed out, yeah, daddy,
Speaker 1: and we all went okay, not no, but oh god,
Speaker 1: oh my, oh my, oh my? All right? Can I
Speaker 1: do another one? Are you guys? Hang on? What's up?
Speaker 1: Is that a request? I'm doing it? Oh? Yes, soon? Well?
Speaker 1: The stars gool dancing away left dancing and my what
Speaker 1: issue in anger? Well, that's in Out on seven Street,
Speaker 1: deaths in through the underground. Death's a little marrier? Are yah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I am happy? Now? Where do you? Where do you go?
Speaker 1: In your blue? Where do you go when you lonely?
Speaker 1: I follow you? When starts go where the sat well?
Speaker 1: Laughing with your pretty mouth, then with your pretty mouth,
Speaker 1: laughing with your broken, laughing with your broken, been with
Speaker 1: your love time in a lot of bar. Yeah, where
Speaker 1: do you go? Where you lonely? Where do you go?
Speaker 1: Where your blue? Where do you go when you lonely?
Speaker 1: I follow you, follow you, I will follow you by
Speaker 1: when you lonely? Where do you go blue? Where do
Speaker 1: you go? When you lonely? I follow you, follow you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: when the stars go? Where the stars go? When the
Speaker 1: stars go? When the stars go? Where do you go
Speaker 1: when you're lonely? Where do you go? When the stars
Speaker 1: go blue? You guys are killing Tyler. Tyler, have a
Speaker 1: seat listen. I can't be the only person that thinks
Speaker 1: that maybe Hayley should have spent a little bit more
Speaker 1: time with Chris Keller. You guys are saying that now.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of I got a lot of
Speaker 1: crap for it at the time, though, what what when
Speaker 1: do stars go? Like? Just bear with me, When does
Speaker 1: stars actually go blue? What is this song about? Can
Speaker 1: we just stop? I mean, we've all loved this song. First,
Speaker 1: have we ever stopped and be like, what is this
Speaker 1: song talking about? What talking about? Is it like dawn?
Speaker 1: Are the stars blue about? What's the science? Sophia? I
Speaker 1: do believe you. I realized when you first asked the question,
Speaker 1: I was going to say something, and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's actual, it's a joke. I'm just gonna wait. I
Speaker 1: do believe it is. When the dawn breaks joy and
Speaker 1: the stars fade into a bright blue sky to a
Speaker 1: bright blue guy. Thank you Okay. So it's funny about
Speaker 1: staying up all night. Yeah, up all night, probably because
Speaker 1: you've been making out and then the stars go bloom
Speaker 1: and you'd think in the last fifteen years, I would
Speaker 1: have thought of that or googled it whatever. Google. Okay, Um, Tyler,
Speaker 1: you were surrounded by Queen's right now. Uh being the
Speaker 1: bad boy on our show? Did you ever get to
Speaker 1: experience Barbara or Daphne? Did you guys have scenes together?
Speaker 1: I'm just you, guys did. I'm just wondering why deb
Speaker 1: Scott never crossed your path and she didn't last long
Speaker 1: enough as you were up there staying and I was like,
Speaker 1: why didn't that ever happen? Why didn't When I was
Speaker 1: hearing you talk about how when they started making you
Speaker 1: bad it was more fun, I felt the exact same way.
Speaker 1: I feel like they started doing that to me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it's so much, so much more fun. Though.
Speaker 1: When I was on the show, it was one of
Speaker 1: the first times I started getting recognized all the time,
Speaker 1: and I thought that would be cool one day if
Speaker 1: I was like famous enough to get recognized. It wasn't
Speaker 1: because everybody was like hi. I'd be like hi, and
Speaker 1: maybe like why did you take Hayley on tour? And
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, my name is Tyler, who
Speaker 1: are you? But all the time that's what I got.
Speaker 1: It was so crazy, just pure rage. Do you still
Speaker 1: get recognized for the show all the time, all the time,
Speaker 1: all the time. But I have to say a lot
Speaker 1: of dudes to me about Chris Keller, so many they
Speaker 1: all say they're like Chris Keller because they know like that,
Speaker 1: you know, their girlfriend made him watch it, and just
Speaker 1: like you, guys say they're like whatever, and then they're
Speaker 1: like this Chris Keeler guys kind of like being funny
Speaker 1: or what. I don't know. I don't know with all
Speaker 1: the things that they want to do. Yes, I guess,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you're their dream model. They're like, man,
Speaker 1: if I could only get away with that, Wait, because
Speaker 1: you hooked up with Brooke, you kissed Hayley? You you
Speaker 1: want yeah real quick? Um? No, you had a good
Speaker 1: track record, congratulations, yeahs and ladders of one. I was
Speaker 1: even in bed with Chad at one point on the show.
Speaker 1: That's right, Chris Keller really got a r Tyler. The
Speaker 1: last time you played a One Tree Hill concert in
Speaker 1: New York City. He told us this story the other night,
Speaker 1: and he's like, remember that show in New York and
Speaker 1: it was the coolest And we all realized, like, no, Tyler,
Speaker 1: we weren't at that show. At least tell us about
Speaker 1: the coolest show ever. You guys at the One Tree
Speaker 1: Hill tour in like two thousand and five, by any chance,
Speaker 1: nobody or somebody, it's amazing. Yeah, But honestly, that is
Speaker 1: one of the most interesting things about this show is
Speaker 1: that there were so many people at that live show
Speaker 1: we did in two thousand five, and hardly any of
Speaker 1: you guys were there. So it's like, there are so
Speaker 1: many chans that just rewatched the show in turnover, and
Speaker 1: as I going tour, I see younger and younger people
Speaker 1: coming to. It's crazy how many people keep getting well,
Speaker 1: how many people here first generation fans? Okay, how many
Speaker 1: people here are second generation fans? That's really nice. Well,
Speaker 1: we did for for a second gen's if in case
Speaker 1: you didn't know, Tyler and I went on tour with
Speaker 1: Gavin Degaras and Michelle Branch and the records, and we
Speaker 1: did when Hayley went on tour, we actually went on tour.
Speaker 1: We did a thirty five city tour somewhere. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to drive to three five cities. It's okay,
Speaker 1: we'll hire a private driver. Jeff, you need to get
Speaker 1: your commercial license and get a tour contract. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna take some questions from you guys right now. Oh,
Speaker 1: where's Danielle? You guys, when you hear us on the podcast,
Speaker 1: Sophia tell him who we're looking for? Guys. You know
Speaker 1: sometimes on the pod when we're like, what when was that?
Speaker 1: Who directed this? And then there's like a ping bug
Speaker 1: and then we have an answer. It's because Danielle gives
Speaker 1: it to us. She plays, and tonight she has a
Speaker 1: mic for y'all, so we can do a Q and
Speaker 1: A and hear you. Okay, where are we looking? Who's
Speaker 1: got microphones out there? Do we have someone with a mic? Oh? Okay? Hi? Hi?
Speaker 1: These lights are so bright? Hi guys. Hi, what's your name?
Speaker 1: My name is hades Hi. Hi. So nervous, don't be nervous.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry. Don't cry. Don't mention it. I'm gonna cry, cry, cry,
Speaker 1: cry crying. Don't don't feel embarrassed. I cried last night
Speaker 1: at the show. In Boston. Everything is Sophia not cry.
Speaker 1: I know not. They are surprised me the mom God,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be me in a side and I'm gonna cry. Okay.
Speaker 1: So my question is for like each of your individual characters,
Speaker 1: do you guys have like a favorite like kind of
Speaker 1: like turning port or like, um kind of direction that
Speaker 1: your character took that you were really kind of in
Speaker 1: love with versus you know, some of the things you
Speaker 1: have to do. That's a great question, interesting question. We
Speaker 1: never get that one. I love that your favorite turning point, Well,
Speaker 1: we know what Barber's is. Which episode did it for you, Barb?
Speaker 1: I have to say from my turning point when they
Speaker 1: started writing the whole war of the world, were of
Speaker 1: the war, the roses, all of the fun Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why were it? Yeah? For sure? Um with Paul, that's
Speaker 1: when everything turned for me. And I never wanted to
Speaker 1: go back. I never wanted to be good again. I
Speaker 1: wanted to like sleep with young boys and drink a
Speaker 1: lot and do a lot of drugs and that young
Speaker 1: I didn't, but my character and I just seriously, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to get you know, worse and worse and
Speaker 1: worse instead of better and better, and that was my
Speaker 1: complete so I never want to play a good did
Speaker 1: you have attorney point? Oh? You know what my turning
Speaker 1: point was. I was so happy when you know Victoria,
Speaker 1: which was so hard in the beginning. She was so hard.
Speaker 1: There was no heart, no heart, and I just kept
Speaker 1: having to, you know, tell myself that there she was
Speaker 1: all career and people who don't show emotion and don't
Speaker 1: make themselves vulnerable and don't interact with people and don't
Speaker 1: get involved are very terrified of it because it's very
Speaker 1: scary to do that. So when when she comes to
Speaker 1: this town and like it's nothing but the fields, all
Speaker 1: like everyone's fucking grinds, upset about stuff and failing, was
Speaker 1: just like okay. And then when she finally, you know,
Speaker 1: becomes a real mom. I think when we started to
Speaker 1: do that totally felt more real when I was, you know,
Speaker 1: supporting you and maybe with the with the with the
Speaker 1: babies that you want to have. But I think it
Speaker 1: happened even before that when we gave the company back
Speaker 1: to each other. A few times, I'm like, no, you
Speaker 1: have it. I want you with my daughter. I know
Speaker 1: you have it. I want you with my mom. So
Speaker 1: we were like, okay, you know that was that was
Speaker 1: a great turning point. That's wait did Chris Keller advertise? I?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm the hero of One Tree Hill.
Speaker 1: Now people coach me all the time. They're like, are
Speaker 1: you the guy that saved this? Yes, you saved One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill? Okay? No, I like, I think I saved
Speaker 1: Nathan's life, but by by accidentally killing somebody and running
Speaker 1: away screaming. But that counts that point, It counts my my.
Speaker 1: My favorite turning point probably was when Haley came back
Speaker 1: from the tour and Nathan was not ready to get
Speaker 1: back together with her. Just as an actor, that was
Speaker 1: probably the most fun I had diving into Hayley, because
Speaker 1: I think everything after that point either she was really
Speaker 1: depressed and angry, or she was like happy and just
Speaker 1: fine and kind of ether servicing someone else's storyline or
Speaker 1: just you know, maintaining the piece so that other people
Speaker 1: could have drama. But I really remember that time being
Speaker 1: fun to just play with. Yeah, like, what about you guys?
Speaker 1: They did so much stuff to be like, what didn't
Speaker 1: they do? Um? Did Pat never get perky? Like? Like
Speaker 1: once when we all commented on it, we watched the
Speaker 1: podcast We're Like God. Payden was really happy in this episode. Yes,
Speaker 1: whoa which one was it? Oh? Shame? Thank you. Brian
Speaker 1: Greenberg was once I really loved because there was so
Speaker 1: much in the first seasons where I'd get a script
Speaker 1: and be like, I have to do what's like? Please?
Speaker 1: No more? And and then this, you know, girl who
Speaker 1: was constantly trying to figure out if she was valuable
Speaker 1: based on the opinions of other people, started to value herself.
Speaker 1: She leaned into her own creativity. She literally said in
Speaker 1: the script she stopped letting boys define her, and I like,
Speaker 1: I think most of us needed to see that, And
Speaker 1: it was really cool to be on that journey with
Speaker 1: Brooke while I was on my own version of that
Speaker 1: journey of figuring out who I was not just being
Speaker 1: like a good friend, a good daughter, a good worker,
Speaker 1: good on set, no my lines, and everybody else was
Speaker 1: like please God. And then I was like, actually, I
Speaker 1: have an opinion. You want to hear about it? Now
Speaker 1: it's your whole job, Sophia. That was a great question.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Another one one more, Let's do another you guys,
Speaker 1: who was the gay? Just start talking? Talk? Hi? Hi? Oh,
Speaker 1: she's just gonna yell girl, go for you. We like
Speaker 1: bold to ourselves. You are characters. Could you both whatever
Speaker 1: you feel more comfortable? Hi, Hi, whatever you feel more comfortable.
Speaker 1: For those podcasts listeners at home, she our lovely friends
Speaker 1: here just asked what our advice would be to our
Speaker 1: younger characters are younger our younger selves. Yeah, we've answered
Speaker 1: this a couple of times, and so if you have
Speaker 1: missed this answer, it is pleasure. We spent so much
Speaker 1: time crying about stuff and worrying about stuff and fretting
Speaker 1: about stuff. Follow pleasure, Find fun, fine friendship, kiss whoever
Speaker 1: the hell you want to kiss, get weird, make up
Speaker 1: terrible stories so that where you're old people, you've got
Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. And by the way, when you're
Speaker 1: pursuing that pleasure, ignore anyone who wants to shame you
Speaker 1: for it. Anyone who shames your joy goes in the
Speaker 1: trash can. Like, if we're not having fun on this
Speaker 1: crazy planet, what are we doing? Go have a good time.
Speaker 1: I definitely would have told myself to just relax a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, like life is just a bullet cheer. Alright,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I don't know why I sing all
Speaker 1: the time now, But Hayley needed to relax. I think
Speaker 1: I needed to relax. But also like, don't be so afraid.
Speaker 1: I was so afraid when I was young. I was
Speaker 1: so afraid of not doing everything exactly the right way.
Speaker 1: And like it came from a really good place. I
Speaker 1: really wanted to please, uh my, my coworkers, but my
Speaker 1: boss is God. Like I just wanted to do everything
Speaker 1: the right way. And you know, life is messy. It's
Speaker 1: so messy, and you have to keep a humble heart
Speaker 1: and don't be so focused on yourself. I would have
Speaker 1: told myself, serve more. Focus on how you can be
Speaker 1: of service. Focus on you know, what you can do
Speaker 1: in the in the lives of the people around you,
Speaker 1: and you'll find your way. But um, I think we're
Speaker 1: in a culture of so much self focus, and it
Speaker 1: really does make a huge difference in your ability to
Speaker 1: have gratitude when you just are looking at the community
Speaker 1: around you and seeing ways that you can serve. So
Speaker 1: I just to be honest, that's what I have told
Speaker 1: my sarcomas. I can't follow that, no, but you literally
Speaker 1: have three daughters. Okay. So when I booked One Tree
Speaker 1: Hill and I came in a little bit later than
Speaker 1: everybody else, um episode three or something. I knew that
Speaker 1: this was golden and this was exactly what I wanted.
Speaker 1: I was raising my kids in the most beautiful city
Speaker 1: we love. Have you all been to right school? Beach
Speaker 1: of you all? But it's my home, it's my heart.
Speaker 1: And I promised myself that every day I would go
Speaker 1: to work, I would touch my trailer in a certain place,
Speaker 1: touch my trailer, and that would be my gratefulness towards
Speaker 1: this job and what it brought to me. And it's
Speaker 1: still bringing to me every day and all of you guys,
Speaker 1: And so every single day I was grateful, grateful, grateful,
Speaker 1: every day grateful. And why I'm telling you this is
Speaker 1: I would tell my younger self, you should be more grateful.
Speaker 1: But I was grateful. I knew I was in something
Speaker 1: special and I appreciated it every single day. I felt
Speaker 1: that for me. If I felt it, I love that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. What a great I would have I would
Speaker 1: have done more of the show. At the time I was.
Speaker 1: I was, I was touring a lot and I didn't know,
Speaker 1: Like initially I went on the show just like promote
Speaker 1: a single or something, and then they asked if I
Speaker 1: could do more episodes, and I was obsessed with it
Speaker 1: in my label whatever. But if I had to do
Speaker 1: it over again, I would have done every single episode
Speaker 1: they'd offered me because it was some of the best
Speaker 1: times in my life and I wish I had more
Speaker 1: of them. I really do. And then you would have
Speaker 1: gotten to kiss Barbara. Hello, don't shame us, don't Joe. Daphne,
Speaker 1: you had it all figured out as a young person.
Speaker 1: Did you have it all figured out? She kind of did.
Speaker 1: She's like, do I ever have thought I did? And
Speaker 1: so I would go with that, But inside I felt
Speaker 1: a lot of not worthy enough, not worthy enough, not
Speaker 1: good enough, you know, divorced, family, moved around a lot, etcetera, etcetera,
Speaker 1: came to Hollywood, knew nobody. So I think I would
Speaker 1: tell my younger self, first of all, I've learned, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I love her. Whatever you can, I love you,
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you, it's okay, like a
Speaker 1: good mom, Like be the good mom. That's what I
Speaker 1: would have done to her, as opposed to abandon her
Speaker 1: and say, oh my god, I can't believe you, did
Speaker 1: you know, like shame her kind of the little micro
Speaker 1: aggressions that we talk about I we do to ourselves
Speaker 1: a lot, and I think I would say, nope, you know,
Speaker 1: support her. It's okay, messed up, not a big deal,
Speaker 1: because I get that from my marriage now and um
Speaker 1: from him, and he just taught me a whole new
Speaker 1: way to wow, it's not such a big deal, you know.
Speaker 1: So whereas when I was young, I was trying to
Speaker 1: appear that I knew everything, so but inside it was
Speaker 1: a different story. So that's what I would do, for sure.
Speaker 1: And I wish you did do more. And I wish said,
Speaker 1: you know, well, I was like that, I will remember that,
Speaker 1: but you just said for so long. It's such a
Speaker 1: really succinct, beautiful way to put that. And you know,
Speaker 1: the other thing I would say, which reminds me of
Speaker 1: this podcast, Um, my mom was a preacher, so I
Speaker 1: could do that. You know. I'm kind of like have
Speaker 1: a little bit of her, but I would, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say that. Honestly. I've been listening to this podcast
Speaker 1: and going back and watching the show, and I get
Speaker 1: why the fans love it, and but it was a
Speaker 1: seed and you guys have turned this into this whole
Speaker 1: other animal and it's who you are, and it's your
Speaker 1: authenticity and it's what you as alchemists, turned what happened
Speaker 1: to you in life into this and it's blooming and
Speaker 1: growing and we're all so attracted to it. I'm so
Speaker 1: attracted to them. And no, it's you now, it's you. Now.
Speaker 1: You can't lie to yourself. He hates to cry. We
Speaker 1: need to plant a tree now. I think listen here.
Speaker 1: All that is the whole mantra of our show. Nice
Speaker 1: to the little animal inside of yourself. So we are
Speaker 1: so grateful that you guys have joined us for this
Speaker 1: taping of Drama Queens. Thank you so so much. How
Speaker 1: many of you are going out with your friends after this?
Speaker 1: You guys going out your party? All right? I want
Speaker 1: you to go get weird, go be queens tonight. You
Speaker 1: love you guys. Let's get Thank you allay, Hey, thanks
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