Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Jean Merriman a one hand
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Speaker 1: is Lights Out with Sean Merriman. What's up, guys, Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another Lights Out podcast. Me Sewan Merriman. Got
Speaker 1: a long time friend, um for myself and MM a
Speaker 1: legend uh known as the ice man, Chuck Ladale. Man, Um,
Speaker 1: you know I got a opportunity to meet Chuck will
Speaker 1: get into a funny store and how we met years
Speaker 1: and years ago my rookie year to Pro Bowl and
Speaker 1: in Hawaii. Uh, you're gonna want to listen to this one.
Speaker 1: But just all around, man, just a legend of the sport. Um,
Speaker 1: just so recognizable now that uh you know he's hosting
Speaker 1: the celebrity boxing matches with with Lamarow and he just
Speaker 1: saw him last week. UM, and he'll probably do more
Speaker 1: of that. But man, it's it's always good to grab
Speaker 1: a good conversation with man here Chuck Ladale. So here
Speaker 1: we go, Yo. What I'm doing? Good? Bro? Are you
Speaker 1: back in the crib now? You in l a Yeah,
Speaker 1: all over the place from flying around, Dude, I know
Speaker 1: I've seen that ship how many how many days? I know,
Speaker 1: you text me before you got to the the celebrity
Speaker 1: fight with Lamar Oldham rights? How many days before the fight?
Speaker 1: Did you have to go only for that one? I
Speaker 1: only had to be there for I got the day
Speaker 1: before I went. I went down to uh, Florida. I
Speaker 1: went to the may Weather fight. Oh you did, that's right?
Speaker 1: I seen you? Yeah, yeah, I seen you that. What
Speaker 1: what do you what do you think about that? Man?
Speaker 1: Like the logan actually look halfway decent in person? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I mean they are, honestly, but
Speaker 1: do you do you think do you think a lot
Speaker 1: of this a bunch of bullshit? Or it's like Cary,
Speaker 1: I mean it was just carry members. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: with that had his way with him. He did what
Speaker 1: he wanted. You know, it was I mean it wasn't.
Speaker 1: But I mean, what do you expect me fighting that?
Speaker 1: One of the best defensive boxing all the time, and
Speaker 1: he got boxed for a couple of years. I mean
Speaker 1: he was how he japs? I mean, like, how does that? Like?
Speaker 1: The guys in the m m A community like look
Speaker 1: at that, right, because you see everybody's talking about who's
Speaker 1: getting paid one all these the biggest paid days in
Speaker 1: my life. And you've seen Dana coming out saying certain
Speaker 1: things like, oh, um, well, why don't they announce what
Speaker 1: they're getting paid? Like how does that? And I don't
Speaker 1: want to say real, I want to say real. I
Speaker 1: kind of do want to say real fighters because you
Speaker 1: know that that ship is more of a circus to me,
Speaker 1: But people pay to see circuss How does like real
Speaker 1: guys who really did it for a long time, because
Speaker 1: when y'all started out, nobody's making jack ship, like you know,
Speaker 1: y'all start out, So now you see guys getting paid
Speaker 1: for these circus shows, Like what, what is like the
Speaker 1: total consensus about that? Well, I'm sure everyone. No one's
Speaker 1: real happy about it. I mean, I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of the fighters aren't happy about it. I mean it
Speaker 1: is what it is, man, It's kind of one a
Speaker 1: thing now, like a lot of the um a lot
Speaker 1: of stuffing. Like even a lot of the guys, the
Speaker 1: fighters that are making more money or because of they're
Speaker 1: they're louder than make more important noise how in the public.
Speaker 1: Then it is, But that's how it's always been. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the guys that can bring in the uh, the
Speaker 1: fighters that they're competing in the fans that aren't really
Speaker 1: fight fans that are or they are the casual fans
Speaker 1: and the guys that that making them must see fight.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta I gotta watch that this guy's fighting,
Speaker 1: you know what every you know, it's like that's why
Speaker 1: the big Mayweather fights were big, big paper because everybody
Speaker 1: wanted easy what you wanted to see him lose, you
Speaker 1: want to see him win, but everybody but everybody showed
Speaker 1: up and we'll go watch the fights. The big parties
Speaker 1: where people don't even watch fights, and there big view
Speaker 1: parties or something like people going to watch and watching
Speaker 1: that because it's a you know, and those are the guys,
Speaker 1: you know, they make the more money, make more money.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean. But you know, I think the funniest thing
Speaker 1: is the fans that complain about what the content or
Speaker 1: the fight. I mean that that's what you buy in.
Speaker 1: You're buying, you know, tough man contests. You're buying you know,
Speaker 1: guys that are just they don't know how to fight fighting.
Speaker 1: You know, you're watching a rappers like a basketball player. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, guys don't fight. YouTube start fighting another YouTube
Speaker 1: starting that's what that's what it is. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: showing some some real fighters in there. But you know
Speaker 1: that just makes it. They're trying to make it more
Speaker 1: pell a circus. Yeah. You know how what I always
Speaker 1: say they kind of compare that you're too is like
Speaker 1: when you're driving on the highway in this traffic, right,
Speaker 1: so you get up there, you're trying to find out
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on this traffic and you
Speaker 1: look and you see there as an accident on the
Speaker 1: opposite side of the damn freeway and you're like, hold on,
Speaker 1: why is everybody slowing down to look at that? That
Speaker 1: that's what that's what's going on out hit in my opinion,
Speaker 1: Like it's a damn accident that you said everybody you
Speaker 1: said the week in a pay per view, everybody's sitting
Speaker 1: up and saying, we're not gonna buy it. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna buy that garbage. We're not gonna buy and you
Speaker 1: look at it and there's one point five million pay
Speaker 1: per views, right, so like, no matter what people say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not watching that garbage. And then before you know it,
Speaker 1: they're slop stopping down and they're looking at the damn
Speaker 1: traffic looking at the accident on the opposite side of
Speaker 1: the Hogway. It has nothing to make it up going
Speaker 1: to people. Okay, I'm gonnanna check it out. But then
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what you're that's what you're buying.
Speaker 1: You know, don't complain about advertising is gonna have these,
Speaker 1: you know, like the trailer one. I mean, there are
Speaker 1: too many news things and Snoop was getting high and
Speaker 1: what like you understand, can you repeat that statement and
Speaker 1: tell me why you're surprised, Like it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it is what it is, you know, it's entertainment,
Speaker 1: I mean, and a place for everything. I mean, but
Speaker 1: if you want real fights, go buy a UFC card.
Speaker 1: Go uh you know, go buy a Canello card. You
Speaker 1: know what, I'll again that card. I think I went.
Speaker 1: I went to watch the Canelo fight, and I think
Speaker 1: that on the main main card, the closest fighter in
Speaker 1: the odds of the main card was four to one.
Speaker 1: It was like, that was the closest fight. I think
Speaker 1: his was eight to one. He's an eight to one favorite.
Speaker 1: But that but that but you know what, that's why
Speaker 1: m m A. Over the last two decades has surpassed
Speaker 1: boxing because of that bullshit right there. But what you
Speaker 1: just said is why when you were you're talking to
Speaker 1: m m A, you're going to fight the best, right
Speaker 1: It's very few times, especially when you get up to
Speaker 1: the UFC, a ship, hell, even Bella to ar, at
Speaker 1: some point you're you're going to see that much of
Speaker 1: a mismatch where a guy gonna get in there just
Speaker 1: totally better, totally outclass. You're gonna get in there with
Speaker 1: a damn rookie. There's just not gonna happen. And that's
Speaker 1: what's killed boxing over the last two decades because of
Speaker 1: what you just said in my opin, right, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's what I didn't think too. That's one of the
Speaker 1: things that's a hard part when you're talking about people
Speaker 1: complain about the UFC and you know, having too much
Speaker 1: control and having too much that's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why you see the best fighting the best, because at
Speaker 1: some point they have to be if you get up
Speaker 1: to that level you're fighting, you gotta fight tough guys,
Speaker 1: and they're all they're on all on the one one umbrella.
Speaker 1: Makes it a lot easier to make the fights right
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Speaker 1: listen live. You know, before you came on my my
Speaker 1: producer he asked me, said, uh, he said, you know, Chucky.
Speaker 1: I said, yet, men, Chuck go back a long time,
Speaker 1: and so I don't know. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: remember how we met a long time ago in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: I think that was our first time hanging out at
Speaker 1: the at the pole at the Pro Bowl. So I'm
Speaker 1: at I'm at the damn pool. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've been my rookie year second
Speaker 1: ye I don't remember what year it was, might have
Speaker 1: been two thousand and five, and I'm sitting here. I'm
Speaker 1: at the pool drinking super super duper my ties all day.
Speaker 1: I mean I've had like nine or two of them things.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there, I'm drinking it, and then I
Speaker 1: go out and Little john this host and I think
Speaker 1: the club that night. So I get up there and
Speaker 1: I'm having shots or whatever. Little Johnson. Now I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm totally out of my damn wits right. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I man, I'm first time down in Hawaii. My family's
Speaker 1: down there. I'm seeing Peyton Man and all these songs.
Speaker 1: You little John. I mean, I'm I'm seeing this ship
Speaker 1: the first time, so I see you. And by this time,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm already on clos I'm already out of here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've been drinking all day by the
Speaker 1: pool and the sun. I'm already out of here. And
Speaker 1: somewhere in my in my stupid mind, young dumb mind,
Speaker 1: I decided to come up and kind of grab you
Speaker 1: and like play around. I don't know if you remember
Speaker 1: we played just playing playing around in the middle of
Speaker 1: the club, in the middle of the club. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember, but the security the security
Speaker 1: guards has circled us up and let us pumble around
Speaker 1: a little bit and play around in the middle of
Speaker 1: the damn club. Yeah, we made that very nervous. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think the security one just wanted to tell.
Speaker 1: Neither one of us were like, Okay, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: see what happens and hopefully nothing, hopefully we stops good.
Speaker 1: I just I remember falling I remember falling down to
Speaker 1: this because I didn't have any legs upon them at
Speaker 1: that point. I remember us falling down to the seat
Speaker 1: it was on, on the couch of the seat and
Speaker 1: just started laughing. Dude, Honestly, that was probably one of
Speaker 1: the last things I remember. Catching the taxi back to
Speaker 1: my room. I don't even know if I ever told you,
Speaker 1: but I missed practice. I missed practice the next day.
Speaker 1: So I got I got to my room and I
Speaker 1: forget to set my alarm clock and I just passed
Speaker 1: up and I go to sleep. When I wake up,
Speaker 1: the sun is beaming in my room, and I said,
Speaker 1: oh shit. I got up and I darted out the
Speaker 1: room to practice. As I'm running out of the hotel,
Speaker 1: they're walking in from practice. So I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're gonna send my eyes home. They're gonnay,
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna send me home. I'm going down.
Speaker 1: I went back down to the pool. I had me another.
Speaker 1: I had me another my time because I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have I'm having me one more before they send
Speaker 1: my ays home. And they never did because it was
Speaker 1: the last practice before the actual game, so they wouldn't.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have been able to replace me then anyway,
Speaker 1: But I still tell I still tell people today that
Speaker 1: was one of the funnest times I've ever had in
Speaker 1: my in my damn entire life. Oh yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was always fun going out there. I was out there.
Speaker 1: Low always invited me out the first the first time
Speaker 1: I came out there. You know, he had he had
Speaker 1: said up like I land, I landed, I'm drinking. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to catch up because I know I'm picked meeting
Speaker 1: that meet up with drinking, right, So I'm on the
Speaker 1: plane drinking and I land and he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta fight set up. It's you and me was
Speaker 1: Pepper Johnson, and there's another person on the beach. It's
Speaker 1: a tag team for twenty grand I got yours. I
Speaker 1: gotta get you covered. Like what, okay, because I'm fighting
Speaker 1: on the beach. At least I got Low with me
Speaker 1: and I had little the American restaurant, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if they knew that, but but so when they
Speaker 1: got there and there and then man, we didn't think
Speaker 1: he was really coming without your lying. They started laughing.
Speaker 1: We all started laughing and joking about but did you
Speaker 1: did you show up. What did you show up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I showed up. I got there. I was just saying
Speaker 1: I was planning. I got He called me when I
Speaker 1: was on the ground, Land on the ground, I just okay,
Speaker 1: I'll be ye, come here, I come. Where are we
Speaker 1: going time? I guess fighting on the beach whatever. Dude,
Speaker 1: Low Low almost got me into the same ship. He
Speaker 1: almost he almost got me to fight James lights Out
Speaker 1: Tony same same deal. So Low Low on the locker room,
Speaker 1: you know. And I always knew Lorenzo there was you know,
Speaker 1: full back, you know, before I got there, just tremendous, fullback,
Speaker 1: hell of a player. But I had no idea about
Speaker 1: this wrestling in in in college, I had no idea.
Speaker 1: So and when I got there my rookie year, when
Speaker 1: a lot of guys started doing with rookie hazen and stuff,
Speaker 1: I started to play back with Low and I noticed.
Speaker 1: I said hold on, hell, and Low took me to
Speaker 1: the ground and I said, oh ship, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's when I found out that Low wrestling. I had
Speaker 1: no idea American. He was an all American everyway man.
Speaker 1: He that was the junior year. He didn't he didn't
Speaker 1: finish senior because because in football. But yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to actually, you know, with lights out with the league,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get more football former football players, especially
Speaker 1: if you get cut, early done or injured or something
Speaker 1: like that and you're not playing anymore, like I'm not.
Speaker 1: I can't really use Greg Greg Hardy as an example,
Speaker 1: but you know, he he got he had his flashes
Speaker 1: where he looked you know, he looked pretty decent. Do
Speaker 1: you see more like former athletes from other sports transition
Speaker 1: in the MMM some time? So well, I mean there's
Speaker 1: always that possibility. I always telling you to give me
Speaker 1: a guy with athletic ability. It's mentally tough. You know,
Speaker 1: I can teach them how to fight. You know, it
Speaker 1: just takes time. It's not a hard thing for a
Speaker 1: lot of those guys. It's like trying to cross over, right,
Speaker 1: and you know they come from Okay, now I'm fighting,
Speaker 1: now I'm in the UFC. Uh. You know, now they're
Speaker 1: fighting top end. You know you're coming straight from the
Speaker 1: you know, they don't get the teeth sweat, you know,
Speaker 1: in the lower lower leagues. First, you know, they gotta
Speaker 1: get a few get a few warm up fights. You know,
Speaker 1: give him, bring him bring him along to get has
Speaker 1: some time to teach him and get him getting to
Speaker 1: fight some some work their way up. Not not that
Speaker 1: not have to touch some to the world. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: a good athlete. Here go. These guys have been fighting,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's what I said. But that's the difference.
Speaker 1: Like I'm um, yeah, I'm probably gonna go train again
Speaker 1: in a little bit and I'll and I'll get in
Speaker 1: there and I'm like, you know, get some work, man.
Speaker 1: But you know, at the same time, nobody's trying to
Speaker 1: knock each other heads off, right, So I'll get you know,
Speaker 1: on the Friday or Wednesday, Friday, I'll go, get me
Speaker 1: three or four rounds and you know whatever, just some
Speaker 1: light work moving around. But man, it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a different animal. It's a different animal. And anybody to
Speaker 1: walk in. I love to see these guys you're just
Speaker 1: walking able to chest out and you know, try to
Speaker 1: be Jim heroes heroes and go and get their asked,
Speaker 1: you know, knocked off, because they don't understand that these
Speaker 1: guys have been doing it for a long time, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, doing this for a long time.
Speaker 1: So I try to get these guys, you know, improper
Speaker 1: training camps. Um, you know, get them, get them some
Speaker 1: amateur fights. I got two or three guys right now.
Speaker 1: It's undefeated to you know, play in the NFL amateur
Speaker 1: fights at three and no amateur and they got a
Speaker 1: chance to be pretty good. You gotta go through that process.
Speaker 1: Man's you just get like you said, get putting putting
Speaker 1: there with the wolves. You're asking for it, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, and you can and you can end
Speaker 1: the guy earlier that might might have been good down
Speaker 1: the road, you know, that might that with a little time.
Speaker 1: You still that little You've had some time. A lot
Speaker 1: of those guys retired young, you know, and you still
Speaker 1: have time to especially if they got some kind of
Speaker 1: background and wrestling or something from their background. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not time to teach them what's next. Man. So
Speaker 1: I know you you had the celebrity you know, referee thing.
Speaker 1: And you know it's funny because when I get a
Speaker 1: chance to go out with you, I see how people
Speaker 1: react when they see you and you're like that. So
Speaker 1: it's that if I'm you, man, I would just be
Speaker 1: going to collect checks doing stuff like that, because you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's no you know, you are. They see you and
Speaker 1: they love you wherever we go, like are you are
Speaker 1: you gonna get one to doing that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of a one off thing. We'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta do it. What what what what
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I like appearance. I like going
Speaker 1: out and seeing fans. It's like being out there and
Speaker 1: like getting out and I always like tough man type stuff.
Speaker 1: That's always always been kind of funny and fun to
Speaker 1: be there the referee and let those guys get out
Speaker 1: and then get to talk to him, convince them to
Speaker 1: keep going and do it do the things. It's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Um. But yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: got my podcast, Icebreakers podcast I'm doing now and then
Speaker 1: I do I'm doing a few other other things for
Speaker 1: YouTube show thing I'm working on. But other than that,
Speaker 1: just just kinda I'll still do. I still I like
Speaker 1: doing their parents like I do do a lot of them.
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously that that kind of slowed down
Speaker 1: during the pandemic a little bit because you know a
Speaker 1: lot of things I did cat you know, they have
Speaker 1: to be even a lot of people show them to
Speaker 1: make it worth their while. So but uh, now everything
Speaker 1: is getting back started, back up. I'm in real bid
Speaker 1: has been traveling a lot, doing a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Cool man. Hey, well look I appreciate it, man, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on for a minute. Thank you for happy man. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Let me know when. Um what if you
Speaker 1: guys want to set up for the you for your podcast,
Speaker 1: we'll do it, all right. Sounds great, man, We'll get
Speaker 1: you on there. Yeah, I'm up here in Vegas now, man,
Speaker 1: so you know, let me know all right. Sounds good,
Speaker 1: All right, bro. Appreciate thanks guys for listening to another
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Speaker 1: damn profol guys. Um, I was having a good time.
Speaker 1: A lot of my ties, Little John, Chuck Lindale, what
Speaker 1: can vote wrong? Huh um? Anyway else great times. Uh So,
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