Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loat glasses alone. The way you look is because it'd
Speaker 1: be people like that you you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like people your whole life? You feel me like that.
Speaker 1: You grew up loving their music, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And and and you really to some level admiring the
Speaker 1: person that they are, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's the trick.
Speaker 1: You You'll really find yourself admiring somebody, especially when they
Speaker 1: hone their craft, you know what I mean, they and
Speaker 1: they talented. You'll be like, yeah, I respect that, and
Speaker 1: then they do something.
Speaker 3: Yeah they just like Bro, why would you do that?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Who who?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: You know how?
Speaker 3: They say you got it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Who you who? Your homies?
Speaker 7: Dude?
Speaker 3: Do niggas be that rich and that popular? Do they home?
Speaker 3: He's not saying nothing.
Speaker 5: Like like hey my nigga, that's trash, like why you
Speaker 5: wearing that hair hat.
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 3: Or why you why you why you painting your your beard?
Speaker 3: Or why you it just be it just be a
Speaker 3: gang and ship man? What up? Bro? Yeah, it'd be
Speaker 3: but the but the acon hat it's crazy.
Speaker 1: And that's my man, like one hundred grand bro, Like
Speaker 1: that's really my guy.
Speaker 5: And it's not a but it looked like you could
Speaker 5: peel it if I seen him. I just want to
Speaker 5: peel it off, Like can I let me feel that?
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: That's why I said we should put him on I
Speaker 1: Love La, because it'd be dope. Like people look at
Speaker 1: certain artists and hip hop like and that's a perfect example.
Speaker 2: That's a hip hop artist, right.
Speaker 1: And normally we on our live streams and you know,
Speaker 1: this is dope to to do the podcast, right, this
Speaker 1: is just the eye udio portion, but it's dope, like
Speaker 1: you know, to really have these conversations to that degree.
Speaker 1: Like where like with Khan, like right where like people
Speaker 1: like he's a hip hop artist, you know.
Speaker 7: I mean, even though he don't rap.
Speaker 1: In the traditional acon is a hip hop artists, you know,
Speaker 1: like he could have an R and B sown, but
Speaker 1: he's a hip hop artist.
Speaker 3: He was a rapper, wasn't he.
Speaker 2: I think at one time he did rap.
Speaker 1: But that's a perfect example of somebody who sings that
Speaker 1: pretty much is a hip hop artist. And like we
Speaker 1: just really try to disregard me and Twine was talking
Speaker 1: about it earlier.
Speaker 7: Shout out to Oni Twine. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: On the podcast, y'all seen him a couple of times
Speaker 1: on the live stream. He really hasn't done the pot
Speaker 1: so it's dope to have him on it on the
Speaker 1: first podcast and no selings, but having him like people,
Speaker 1: I'm telling the homie, I'm like, yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: want to have Acon sing I love la song. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: we could get somebody more current, and I'm like it's
Speaker 1: a kon. Like imagine you could get like like uh
Speaker 1: actual rolls or like one of them big rock stars
Speaker 1: like uh like like uh, what's the dude?
Speaker 7: Uh? Who be dancing?
Speaker 1: They all feel like he danced really well. No, No,
Speaker 1: the rock and roll dude can dance really well. You
Speaker 1: know y'all know Mick Jack, Mick Jagger MC jagger can dance.
Speaker 1: I mean like white white people, white people, yea, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And they feel like Mick Jagger
Speaker 1: got swagged like so, but imagine like some young rock
Speaker 1: group could get Mick Jagger on the sothing like now,
Speaker 1: we don't need to get Mick Jagger.
Speaker 7: We need to get somebody new. It's like, Bro, it's
Speaker 7: Mick Jagger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah. With Mick Jagger current, he's never not current.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm Akon is like Mick Jagara of hip hop.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like you can get a song with
Speaker 1: the Locks, or I mean you can get a song
Speaker 1: with g Rapp, Like these dudes are permanent.
Speaker 2: And now hold on glasses. Now, I agree that that
Speaker 2: that a Kon is very prominent, but he's not as
Speaker 2: quite as prominent as a Mick Jagger like big Jaggers
Speaker 2: and mc jagger got a mc jagger got like a
Speaker 2: fifty almost a sixty piece in the game like and.
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, no, not don't know what you look like.
Speaker 1: Not comparing them to right, What I'm saying, what Mick
Speaker 1: Jagger is to rock is what Akon is to hip hop.
Speaker 2: And again I have to disagree, Bro.
Speaker 1: I understand, but but what I'm saying is it's not
Speaker 1: the comparative part that I'm really reaching for. As much
Speaker 1: as he's prominent, he's somebody that you don't pass up
Speaker 1: with when you have, when you have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: work with.
Speaker 4: Period.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, and that part, especially as a as
Speaker 1: a person, what he does with records. I mean his
Speaker 1: ability to make a record special. It's like that don't
Speaker 1: wear off, Like Big Jagger, it don't wear off. Now
Speaker 1: you can look at their own run and say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what, Oh they're not making the biggest records
Speaker 1: on their own. But that's not the point. The point is,
Speaker 1: you can make a great rock record with Nick Jagger today.
Speaker 1: You can make a great rock record with you know,
Speaker 1: actual roles, like you can make a great rock record
Speaker 1: with some of the greatest, Like right now, I want
Speaker 1: to do that song like I was telling you with Segert,
Speaker 1: with Bob Seger like I feel like I can make
Speaker 1: a smash hit record in hip hop with Bob Seger today.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Because if you know what
Speaker 1: you're doing with the record, voices be voices, I can
Speaker 1: make a hit record with Stevie Wonder today. It don't
Speaker 1: matter when Stevie had his last hit record on his own.
Speaker 1: Like if you know, if you have the right record
Speaker 1: for Stevie Wonder, his voice is permanent, it can be
Speaker 1: the number one song in the country of Stevie and
Speaker 1: it's a few artists that have ascended to that level.
Speaker 1: Akon is one of those artists where he's so prominent.
Speaker 1: He was so successful on a mainstream level in pop records.
Speaker 1: His sound is forever like He'll always beat it like
Speaker 1: what it is for people that like that music, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I just feel like in
Speaker 1: hip hop again, when you don't get it. And this
Speaker 1: was a conversation we was having earlier where you think
Speaker 1: you know hip hop because you watch some rap videos.
Speaker 1: You think you know hip hop because you know you
Speaker 1: saw something on Rap City, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: or you heard some songs. It's like you just know
Speaker 1: the letter, you know the letter of hip hop. You
Speaker 1: don't know the spirit of it until you really go
Speaker 1: sit down in the bronx and somebody really give it,
Speaker 1: give you what's going on. And I just feel like
Speaker 1: at this time, no, we don't have that, Like everybody
Speaker 1: just feels like they know what's going on or they
Speaker 1: just disregarded as nothing and it's too powerful to be nothing.
Speaker 1: No Sillings gl Pete is off for today, but he'll
Speaker 1: be back. I got my man Joey Westside one half
Speaker 1: for the La Giants, one third of the one ten
Speaker 1: Super group. I got my brother Twine Matt four one
Speaker 1: four original hip hop, the true owner and innovator of
Speaker 1: the adult contemporary hip hop category. That's going to be
Speaker 1: something in the future. But something was on my mind
Speaker 1: and somebody was asking me something. Right, they was I
Speaker 1: was talking to my young homie. A d ad does.
Speaker 1: Shout out to A d Ad and Pun do the community.
Speaker 1: They are partial owners in the fig munity world, that
Speaker 1: whole galaxy. Ad is really talented them see really dope
Speaker 1: young brother from from Compton. Pun, y'all know that's my
Speaker 1: that's my my heart, that's my man, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like shit, we didn't came up the hardway
Speaker 1: through the business and they got something great going on.
Speaker 1: But we were talking about great barbecue and he was
Speaker 1: talking about a guy named Adam Perry Lang. And I've
Speaker 1: had Adam Perry Lang. Adam, Adam is a dope. He
Speaker 1: can barbecue. You know, a white man get busy, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But he was saying how Compton
Speaker 1: didn't have great barbecue. And he's like, and you know,
Speaker 1: so problem problem shout out to Miami.
Speaker 2: Problem.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ralph Phenomenon, Pun and Ad They all live
Speaker 1: in the Valley, you know what I mean, like kind
Speaker 1: of the suburbs of Los Angeles, the ghetto, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And they was talked about how there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of good barbecue places even though people
Speaker 1: sell barbecue, and I started to explain to.
Speaker 2: Them why that is.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, we have emerged into a hustle culture, right,
Speaker 1: like social media has pushed this hustle culture.
Speaker 7: And I'm gonna break it down.
Speaker 1: But it's hilarious because it's kind of cool, but it's
Speaker 1: also means you lose quality of things.
Speaker 6: Right like.
Speaker 1: Twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, you know, and before.
Speaker 7: Before you start trying to barbecue.
Speaker 4: Bro, if you would have tried to.
Speaker 1: Open up a barbecue restaurant, everybody, like, you know how
Speaker 1: many people you would have had to please with barbecue
Speaker 1: before you even thought about it, Like your whole neighborhood
Speaker 1: would to have to say for the most part, you
Speaker 1: got great barbecue. They would have had to been fragging
Speaker 1: about your barbecue, and everybody lace exactly, you need to
Speaker 1: open up a barbecue place. Your barbue was amazing. It
Speaker 1: you used to take so much like confidence and I'll
Speaker 1: see where by the way, Yeah, practice and all of
Speaker 1: that before you would even try, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then by that point your recipes would be on point.
Speaker 1: Everything would be a one. You be the man, and
Speaker 1: then the public would say if it's dope, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? That that would be the mentality. Your
Speaker 1: passion had to be an barbecue before you open up
Speaker 1: a barbecue place. Right fast forward twenty twenty four. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to my young homie stage, not the stage stage
Speaker 1: as an artist I work with. He from Reno Valley,
Speaker 1: the Murder. Shout out to my little bro stage course.
Speaker 1: Shout out to my brother Metro. That's my guy, love,
Speaker 1: my mis stage man. Those my guys man, you know
Speaker 1: ma Reno Valley. They really they brought a different pizazz
Speaker 1: to what I do, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: they were hungry for hip hop in a different way.
Speaker 1: So stage cost me. And he's like, yeah, gee, man,
Speaker 1: I'm finna open up a barbecue spot. I'm like, stage
Speaker 1: cause you can't barbecue like I'm not. I'm like, cause
Speaker 1: you've never barbecue, cause like I barbecue once or twice.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't think cause you usually have more experience.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know what, I'm saying, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hire a cook. I mean, he'd be getting busy, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hire some girls. And I'm gonna name it
Speaker 1: Big Daddy, and I'm Big.
Speaker 2: Daddy, like shit stage.
Speaker 1: It's five foot ten, five foot eleven, one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty pounds with pennies.
Speaker 2: In his pocket.
Speaker 7: If he had a pocket full of pennies, he's well.
Speaker 3: Marketing with it, you know how to brand it. He
Speaker 3: gonna brand it himself.
Speaker 1: He said, he's gonna call himself Big Daddy. That's crazy
Speaker 1: Big Daddy's barbecue. And I'm like, so you don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck that you don't know nothing about barbecue. He
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm opening it up. And that's the
Speaker 1: mentality of everybody today with businesses, for all of them,
Speaker 1: every single business They on Instagram and they looking at
Speaker 1: somebody doing something and they like, well, I can do
Speaker 1: that too and make that money.
Speaker 7: That's why everything.
Speaker 1: Today has such low quality, because there is no passion
Speaker 1: in ninety percent of the businesses happening. Twan, that's why
Speaker 1: my young homie who's five eleven, one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: five pounds, okay, wet with timberlings on.
Speaker 3: And that's a big don't million.
Speaker 1: Pennies in his pocket. He's going his name is going
Speaker 1: to be Big Daddy. He's gonna open up a barbecue joint.
Speaker 1: He never barbecued at a picnic.
Speaker 7: But he's big.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 7: Girl, every girl do lashes.
Speaker 3: You only did two people, so girls can't even cook.
Speaker 7: It's bad enough now where everybody got plates and it's like.
Speaker 3: Just plates.
Speaker 1: Poo is a perfect example of this ship with Poogy
Speaker 1: got the pooky plates. He like, it's not a not food,
Speaker 1: it's an experience. I'm like, what experience eating in my car?
Speaker 1: I want to pool my loco. I gave him some
Speaker 1: beats and took some beats and all that from me.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying there's no passion or nothing no more.
Speaker 2: We live in a microwave age.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 5: What you start selling, you can sell nigga. You can
Speaker 5: just go and may a fry baloney sandwich today. Nigga
Speaker 5: make it look a certain way on Instagram and niggas
Speaker 5: would be back. We grew up eating them motherfuckers. But
Speaker 5: all you need is a good camera show. You show
Speaker 5: the motherfucking blooney nigga turn into that log.
Speaker 1: All you need is a good camera and some partially
Speaker 1: niggas is doing with partially flicks.
Speaker 2: Oh god, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 1: It's the hustle social media convincing people that they could
Speaker 1: look at the.
Speaker 7: Next person and do what they do.
Speaker 2: Bro, you said the sandwich and some partially partially flakes.
Speaker 1: Look at all these plates on Instagram. Everybody's freaking partially flakes.
Speaker 3: That ship Garlic Nigga's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Part and that's what's wrong with music. As with him,
Speaker 2: I know he was getting there. I'm just saying it's true.
Speaker 2: Everybody rapping and don't know how looking at everybody rapping
Speaker 2: do it. I can do it. Everybody rapping.
Speaker 1: And it's not just that though, But that's what's wrong
Speaker 1: with the whole American you know, situations. Yeah, there's nobody.
Speaker 1: There's no passion and ship. When my young five ft
Speaker 1: eleven homie that wear one hundred and twenty five pounds,
Speaker 1: it's going to open up a barbecue joint called Big
Speaker 1: Daddy and he's Big Daddy and he's not big.
Speaker 2: You can't fuck nobody for how they see themselves though
Speaker 2: he don't see hisself like that. He's just a.
Speaker 1: Great marketing guy and he stood he knew some nigga
Speaker 1: named Big Daddy for sure. That nigga sounds like he
Speaker 1: could barbecue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he you got the girls. He niggas gonna be
Speaker 3: pulling out because all you gotta find out niggas bitches
Speaker 3: up there. You know, niggas bitches up there. Food could
Speaker 3: be tracked. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And this is.
Speaker 7: Everything, Bro, that.
Speaker 2: Fries fries, Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Friesna call Cajun fries. Niggas ten dollars for their motherfuckers.
Speaker 7: All you got to do is put some limon pepper
Speaker 7: on it, and niggas is swearing by.
Speaker 5: It, shaking that living pepper on Instagram. That puts so
Speaker 5: much living peppers, Nigga, I start coughing watching it.
Speaker 2: So are we in the lemon pepper wrapped age?
Speaker 7: Is that every is lemon pepper?
Speaker 2: Everything is limon pepper out just hip hop, though.
Speaker 1: Bro, Like I don't wanted to single out the department
Speaker 1: that we're in. You're talking about niggas looking at home.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about nigga's cutting.
Speaker 2: Hair, everybody cutting their now glass nashes.
Speaker 7: Everybody's a comedian.
Speaker 2: But it's nobody's fault.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, bro, now you good go get yours off.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's nobody's fault if you get
Speaker 2: in a bad barber's chair, though, like your barbers are
Speaker 2: to be vetted. I'm a barber's earn trust over time,
Speaker 2: like a barber is not somebody you just you just
Speaker 2: go spend fifty bucks with. You get a line in
Speaker 2: the shade with like just random a random barber, like
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know who does that.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you the hustlers I hate the most.
Speaker 5: I hate a fake ass, deep motivational speaking ass nigga.
Speaker 5: I hate them niggas.
Speaker 2: If you ain't.
Speaker 5: Nig like you, what did you just say? Like you
Speaker 5: really think you just said some nigga that ship was
Speaker 5: so shallow nigga.
Speaker 2: One fish to fish red.
Speaker 5: And then they put the words and niggas will be
Speaker 5: talking and make it look like you really think you
Speaker 5: just said, Like, nigga, what did you.
Speaker 8: Know?
Speaker 3: I hate them niggas.
Speaker 7: What didn't you be posting some of them? I'll be like,
Speaker 7: this is the worst advice ever.
Speaker 5: I hate a fake ass, deep mean nigga. Would wearing
Speaker 5: tony like ship.
Speaker 2: And when were the coldest?
Speaker 5: Would posting they but you can get they think everything deep.
Speaker 3: The just no, you don't get to what they be thinking.
Speaker 7: The coldest huss is the dudes that's working them.
Speaker 1: A house in the first If he don't buy you
Speaker 1: a house in the first two weeks, he don't feel
Speaker 1: the correct way was the I.
Speaker 3: Was cheating on his wife. He got caught cheating. But
Speaker 3: they was on that nigga he was to him.
Speaker 7: Uh his name is dereckt It.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the nigga with the small T shirts in the
Speaker 5: front seat. Hey man, he was working the niggas. He
Speaker 5: didn't he cater to them. Boy, all you have to
Speaker 5: do is say something bad about the nigga got him.
Speaker 5: You niggas they hated Kevin Samine.
Speaker 7: But yeah, Kevin Simons is to go in and they
Speaker 7: just asked him his opinion.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: He wanted him to win.
Speaker 5: This other nigga was like he fit the lie of y'all,
Speaker 5: Like he just gonna diss all niggas and y'all had
Speaker 5: him and then he got caught cheating on his wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Kevin Samuel was as different was it.
Speaker 7: He was.
Speaker 2: He was informative and he was funny. He had a
Speaker 2: good he had a good thing. He had a good
Speaker 2: thing going there.
Speaker 3: Man, he really did. Man rect in peace to the
Speaker 3: to the Godfather.
Speaker 1: Man, I just don't need it, man, that the hustle
Speaker 1: culture is just getting worse and worse, and I'm just
Speaker 1: watching it happen and I'm like, damn, man, it's like
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be no quality nothing.
Speaker 3: She's gonna be all Yankees, barbecue nigga.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we do have people out here that's
Speaker 2: making quality, though, and so those are the people that
Speaker 2: we salute and we are happy to be amongst them
Speaker 2: because you're making quality. I'm making quality. I'm sure that brother, Brother,
Speaker 2: what's your name again, King Joey west Side, Man, Joe
Speaker 2: what's side? Pleasure to meet you, ty mac Bro. But yeah, classes,
Speaker 2: you don't run with nothing. You don't run with you
Speaker 2: don't run with bums. You don't run with motherfuckers that
Speaker 2: don't handle their business. So I know west Side is
Speaker 2: handling his business. So we just got to continue to
Speaker 2: fight because it's not gonna be exactly how we wanted
Speaker 2: at anytime. We just got to balance it out. But
Speaker 2: it's a lot of garbage out there. It's a lot
Speaker 2: of people that should tell their friends and not the rap.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of ship that should be going on
Speaker 2: out there, but it's not, and so we have to
Speaker 2: continue to fight.
Speaker 7: You know what's funny, I'm not mad at people rapping,
Speaker 7: but at least like learn about it, right, I could
Speaker 7: get you don't have to learn about it.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a Michael Wave age. Nobody care about learning
Speaker 2: ship right now.
Speaker 3: Learn nothing you They will tell you you don't know
Speaker 3: what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Fucking on a bag right now. Fucking ain't think about
Speaker 2: learning shit.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a million view. I think million views
Speaker 3: is a million dollars.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants me to get a trigger. Everybody wants me
Speaker 1: to get a trigger. Uh So, if you if you barbecue,
Speaker 1: if uq, there's a grill called a tragger, okay, And
Speaker 1: what's hilarious to me is with the tragger, you set
Speaker 1: the wood chips in and it's automatic on how it smoke.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, nah, I kind of like the fire pit.
Speaker 1: I like smoking my ship and maintaining my fire by hand. Now,
Speaker 1: it is a very time consuming effort, right, but the
Speaker 1: smoke you get from actually truly maintaining with chunks of
Speaker 1: apple wood versus chips is different. That's right, and that's
Speaker 1: what I think is missing. Everybody just feels like it's money.
Speaker 1: They anything. I'm telling you, the chefs on the streets,
Speaker 1: it's just money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is right now. In a Michael
Speaker 2: Wave age bro I mean, so it's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: what do you expect when the masses socially are like
Speaker 2: telling people you got to have a thousand income streams,
Speaker 2: which I don't know, not knock nobody like have as
Speaker 2: many income streams as you need to have food, clothing,
Speaker 2: and shelter. Right, but right now everything is just so microwave.
Speaker 2: Nobody is concerned with's slowing down and completing the process
Speaker 2: and doing things the right way and the right way.
Speaker 2: Though at the end of the day still the right
Speaker 2: way is subjective because your right way, like west side,
Speaker 2: what west side is right way? My right way, Seventh
Speaker 2: Street right way may all be different, right, so oh
Speaker 2: it's only one right way, Okay, we'll see either way.
Speaker 1: Either way, you have to find somebody passionate. So like
Speaker 1: there are some rappers who get further, Like if you
Speaker 1: listen to Beans tell his story, shout out to Beans,
Speaker 1: who's unnatural, but he was somebody who didn't even trip
Speaker 1: off rapping. But it's different when you get in the
Speaker 1: studio with Kanye West, Who's passion is there, so you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Get better records.
Speaker 1: Like when I first got in the game, I didn't
Speaker 1: really have a pass and like I was developing a
Speaker 1: passion for it. I didn't have one, but Acon had
Speaker 1: a passion. DJ Tump had a passion. So I was
Speaker 1: able to get my first hit record from two guys
Speaker 1: who had a passion and they was really into this.
Speaker 1: You know, feat hit Neck first, it was all the
Speaker 1: way down. So you have to find people passion it
Speaker 1: in whichever arena to truly make it work.
Speaker 2: You can listen.
Speaker 1: I always say, I tell Joey this all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, if you have to exchange your time
Speaker 1: for money, you getting beat, You getting beat?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Let's say if you got a job twying, you go
Speaker 1: to work and they pay you a thousand dollars a day,
Speaker 1: you gotta be there for eight hours, right?
Speaker 7: That seemed like a good gig?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 1: A one hundred and twenty five dollars an hour? One
Speaker 1: hundred hour, eight hours? A thousand feel like.
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 1: I mean you you're making good money. It's great money, right.
Speaker 1: That'd be you know, roughly twenty two thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1: What if you was gonna die in eight hours, would
Speaker 1: that same money.
Speaker 2: Be worth it?
Speaker 1: Like if you went to work at two and you
Speaker 1: got off at ten and then you was gonna die
Speaker 1: at eleven, that thousand dollars be worth it? No, because
Speaker 1: you would take that eight or nine hours you had
Speaker 1: left alive and do things that are worth it. I
Speaker 1: always tell Joey, if you exchange your time for money,
Speaker 1: you always getting beat. People ask me about concerts and
Speaker 1: doing concerts. I got a concert in Seattle coming up
Speaker 1: this week. They couldn't pay me what my time is worth.
Speaker 1: They couldn't pay me what my time, like your time
Speaker 1: is worth. Let's say put a price on your time
Speaker 1: based off of if this was your last time being
Speaker 1: able to be here. If eight hours, that's what your
Speaker 1: time is worth. What you would do if you knew
Speaker 1: you had an hour hour after that time? Maybe for
Speaker 1: five million you could leave your kids five million, and
Speaker 1: then that is worth it. But think about that when
Speaker 1: you're doing it right, There's two things you could do.
Speaker 1: You could keep spending your time stealing fruit off the trees,
Speaker 1: or you could take your time and plant the seeds
Speaker 1: and cultivate them. So every year, every season, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, you got an orchard to always get
Speaker 1: fruit and eat front. That's how I really look at it.
Speaker 1: I'm certainly sound like oh man, but I really get
Speaker 1: it at this point.
Speaker 2: I get why.
Speaker 3: It's like wisdom, man, maturation.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: It is what it is, the truth. I can't deny that.
Speaker 7: But what is your time worth? If you had eight
Speaker 7: hours left twine.
Speaker 1: And one hour after that, what would you have to
Speaker 1: pay that's fair? What would you be comfortable if you
Speaker 1: have to leave your seed money, your family money? How
Speaker 1: much money is worth it? You had eight hours left,
Speaker 1: you have to go do this job, You had to
Speaker 1: exchange your time for money, then you got one hour
Speaker 1: after that. How much money is it worth? How much
Speaker 1: do you need to be able to leave your family?
Speaker 2: How much?
Speaker 7: That's what your time is worth?
Speaker 2: I think concept.
Speaker 1: So I just I just look at this just culture
Speaker 1: going on, and you know, people will ask me like
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you're listening to this, Like let's say,
Speaker 1: if it's back to hip hop or music, they like
Speaker 1: what you're listening to I'm like, I'm gonna listen to
Speaker 1: a good song. I don't know if it's enough passion
Speaker 1: in people making an album what I'm saying, But some
Speaker 1: of the songs you get lucky and you don't need passion.
Speaker 1: Like if somebody cooking that ain't really a great cook,
Speaker 1: maybe that one time they get the meal right there,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat that meal, but I'm not finna be
Speaker 1: coming back up here every week, right What I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that's a really great place called the Bonbfish Tacos, Like
Speaker 1: you could tell when people put their love into what
Speaker 1: they do and they come out with something really incredible.
Speaker 1: In and Out is like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like in and out food ain't incredibly great, it's consistently
Speaker 1: what it is, burger that got just enough taste, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's gonna be fresh, and.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what people pay for, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: It ain't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's as good as five guys, but
Speaker 1: to people, five guys can be a bit inconveniencing people.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest business too, convenience.
Speaker 2: Like I was up last night.
Speaker 1: Watching probably for like two three hours watching about the
Speaker 1: Panama Canal, right, and how to say thirty three days,
Speaker 1: United States of America spent roughly what we considered billions
Speaker 1: of dollars today to blow fifty miles fifty miles of
Speaker 1: a route through Panama. You know what, I mean, to
Speaker 1: build this canal and all this stuff just because they
Speaker 1: didn't want to go around. I think it's Chili. They
Speaker 1: didn't want to go beneath Chili to come around thirty
Speaker 1: three days. Convenience like Uber is doing well, Amazon is
Speaker 1: doing well. Drive throughs are doing well. Like I'll go
Speaker 1: to a drive through, bro, and the drive through will
Speaker 1: be to the street that in and out right to
Speaker 1: one When I was going in and out, often the
Speaker 1: drive through will be to the street. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: all the way out the property onto the street. If
Speaker 1: you go through an in and out, Joe, you know
Speaker 1: that shit be on the street. I pulled my car
Speaker 1: in and I just walked in. It was one person
Speaker 1: in line with three registers open. Yeah, the car that
Speaker 1: I would have been behind when I first pulled in.
Speaker 1: I used to pay attention to shit like this. I
Speaker 1: went parked, ordered my food, got my food, left, and
Speaker 1: when I was pulling out. The car that I would
Speaker 1: have been behind was just now turning into the drive.
Speaker 2: Through it of a place called Culver's that's here in Milwaukee,
Speaker 2: that's here in Wisconsin through it's spreading out through the Midwest.
Speaker 2: That's how that that those are good. It's good food,
Speaker 2: it's good service. But like you said, we're in that
Speaker 2: microwave age. Everybody wants to y'all how we lazy? Is
Speaker 2: that what you're saying glasses were lazy?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Is that or is that one of the factors?
Speaker 3: And I think it's it's a factor the convenience period.
Speaker 2: You know, Convenience make people lazy, absolutely, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like they ain't even writing.
Speaker 3: They don't even take notes like that down in school
Speaker 3: no more.
Speaker 5: It's just tablets and computers, and y'all don't even think
Speaker 5: people write in cursive no.
Speaker 7: More, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's lazy as much as efficiency, right,
Speaker 1: it's efficiency too, It's like can you get more for
Speaker 1: your time?
Speaker 2: But I think the pursuit of.
Speaker 1: Convenience, it can go right past efficient to where you
Speaker 1: start to lose quality.
Speaker 2: That's my issue.
Speaker 1: Like I do think humanity can use more efficiency. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, something it don't gotta be. Is
Speaker 1: like the Panama Canal is a perfect example of making
Speaker 1: life a little bit more efficiency from efficient, from getting
Speaker 1: from an Atlantic ocean to the specific ocean right to
Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean versus taking an extra month and some
Speaker 1: change to go around Cape Horn.
Speaker 2: Right, but.
Speaker 1: They making it wider, They're trying to make it to
Speaker 1: where oil tankers can go. Some of you motherfuckers need
Speaker 1: to just take the long route, some of this dangerous
Speaker 1: to where it's like an oil tanker that's bringing that
Speaker 1: type of oil with them.
Speaker 7: Far as got you go the long.
Speaker 2: Way, brother, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you making enough money to where it's okay if
Speaker 1: it takes you an extra month to get here with
Speaker 1: the gas.
Speaker 3: How you're risking other shit just because you want to
Speaker 3: be convenient.
Speaker 2: Because the potential of if something went wrong with you
Speaker 2: going through there, oh my god, like that, the irrepair,
Speaker 2: the irreparable damage that would do to that canal. It's
Speaker 2: not like if you're out in the open ocean, right,
Speaker 2: It's it doesn't like it with an open ocean is
Speaker 2: the clean even though it'll never be completely cleaned up,
Speaker 2: it'll be a lot easy, a lot much better than
Speaker 2: you polluting that canal. And now they got to deal
Speaker 2: with that ship for like decades and ship or who
Speaker 2: knows how long. That's like dropping a bomb. That's like
Speaker 2: what they did with Herosia or Nagasaki. If some ship
Speaker 2: like that popped off in a canal like that, like
Speaker 2: they still suffering, like you still got generations.
Speaker 7: Of six arms and nine fingers, like that ship is,
Speaker 7: Like so I do, I do.
Speaker 1: There's a space of that's about efficiency versus quality, right,
Speaker 1: And it's like a spectrum of colors, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And it goes from you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2: Let's say.
Speaker 7: Yellow to red, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's in the middle orange. Don't forget
Speaker 1: my colors because I ain't. I'm a numbers guy. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying there is a space for humanity to get
Speaker 1: more efficient. There is a space for humanity to get
Speaker 1: more efficient.
Speaker 7: But I think we pass it up.
Speaker 1: Refine bread passes it up, ultra pasteurized milk passes it up.
Speaker 1: Like I get it, Like when they first decided to
Speaker 1: pasteurize milk, when Lewis Pasture had the idea of like well,
Speaker 1: if you heat it up to ninety degrees, you burn
Speaker 1: off a lot of the bacteria that kills the milk
Speaker 1: quick and you get an extra You get more time
Speaker 1: with it, you know what I mean, and it becomes
Speaker 1: healthier and sure, shit, reedy ass motherfucking governments was like,
Speaker 1: know what, but if we heated till one eighty, this
Speaker 1: shit was shut on the shelves for two months and
Speaker 1: not go bad. It's like, because it ain't milk, it
Speaker 1: ain't no longer alive. Yeah, stripped all the vitamins and
Speaker 1: minerals off of it, and now it's just white substance.
Speaker 1: Like remember how they used to say, like orange drink,
Speaker 1: Like they weren't even shoes.
Speaker 7: They be like orange drink.
Speaker 3: Like craft singles that ain't cheese.
Speaker 1: I think we as humanity, right, it makes sense for
Speaker 1: us to pursue an efficient life so we can have
Speaker 1: more time with our family, no more time to help humanity,
Speaker 1: you know, more time to do right in existing. But
Speaker 1: I think immediately we skip past it, like even making
Speaker 1: this album, right that I'm making this one ten album,
Speaker 1: It's like I'm not telling everybody I'm making them work together.
Speaker 1: I'm just making everybody work together. One song that have
Speaker 1: four or five produced is only you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because you have to team up. Like That's one thing
Speaker 1: Black music used to understand a lot. Black music really
Speaker 1: understood teaming up.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: It definitely made the challenge of doing things more efficient.
Speaker 1: It was dope to watch a bunch of brothers in sync.
Speaker 1: Nothing beats one person more than a movement. Only thing
Speaker 1: better than one rich nigga is three rich niggas, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I think we understood that.
Speaker 1: But then because of social media, social media has turned
Speaker 1: this whole generation into me me, me me, people with
Speaker 1: no talent trying to get engagement. They just want people
Speaker 1: to follow them, and they don't even they haven't never
Speaker 1: took time to develop. Because every human has something special
Speaker 1: about them, right, but they haven't even took time to
Speaker 1: figure out what's special about.
Speaker 2: Them or develop it.
Speaker 7: Just look at the girls. Look at the pictures the
Speaker 7: girls wear.
Speaker 1: You'll see girls wearing these tights, right, and they don't
Speaker 1: even have the body for it yet, or maybe they
Speaker 1: have too much body for it.
Speaker 7: I mean, like it's way too much mayonnaise in a
Speaker 7: bag to be wearing that.
Speaker 3: Pacific pants to each body too.
Speaker 1: Much mayonnaise in a bag, you start looking like a
Speaker 1: bag for the mayonnaise, what I'm saying. Or you just
Speaker 1: so tiny that the tights are you know, stretched like
Speaker 1: they lose because you're not wearing things that fit you.
Speaker 7: And that's the marketing.
Speaker 1: Appeal of what's happening on social media, where you know,
Speaker 1: you got little girls looking at pictures of somebody and
Speaker 1: putting on outfits with somebody with a different everybody, build,
Speaker 1: structure and everything.
Speaker 7: I always tell his story.
Speaker 1: Dean Smith talks about the time when Michael Jordan used
Speaker 1: to be in love with Magic Johnson to the point
Speaker 1: where he you know, I think he was in the
Speaker 1: high school right before he got there and he was
Speaker 1: calling himself Magic Mike. And one I think his high
Speaker 1: school coach told him, and you need to be looking
Speaker 1: more like a doctor Jay.
Speaker 7: You don't have specifically with Magic Johnson. Has to make
Speaker 7: what you do work.
Speaker 1: But I magine he would have came out playing like
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson trying to dime at six six and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, we don't get the greatest version
Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't take time.
Speaker 1: To identify what makes them special and unique with what
Speaker 1: they have because they so busy looking at somebody else
Speaker 1: and it could be a completely different package.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you understood. Find your niche, Find your niche, find
Speaker 2: your lane, even if you end up multiple even if
Speaker 2: you end up existing in multiple lanes, identify with that
Speaker 2: which makes you, like you said, set you aside from
Speaker 2: everything else. Identify that and focus on it. It doesn't
Speaker 2: have to be your sole focus, like one hundred percent
Speaker 2: of what you do, but make primarily like basically like
Speaker 2: carve out your place and whatever it is that you calling.
Speaker 2: And we don't have, like right now, we're in a
Speaker 2: cookie cutter land, like if people are content to make
Speaker 2: what they just heard, what they heard him make her make.
Speaker 2: When I'm talking specifically about music now, because then even
Speaker 2: in i mean even in commerce, like when one thing
Speaker 2: comes out and it kills the market, we see five
Speaker 2: other replicas of it right come right behind it. So
Speaker 2: it's not like it's just like when y'all say cookie cutter.
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm just specifically aligning that with music.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, since we are all in the music space,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like the first thing that I would
Speaker 2: identify as far as like it's okay, to copy right now.
Speaker 2: It's okay to be on stage. You don't have no
Speaker 2: stage show. It's okay to wrap over your lyrics right now,
Speaker 2: Like that's acceptable out here, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 7: Even think it's acceptable.
Speaker 1: I think what happens is you find a niche following
Speaker 1: for anything, like people will identify with your messaging your music.
Speaker 1: Your records may not be great, but because your messaging
Speaker 1: fits the brand that they want to represent. Like that's
Speaker 1: my biggest issue with a lot of dudes right now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, boh, you ain't even
Speaker 1: worked on the music enough, Like you don't even have
Speaker 1: good records.
Speaker 7: What you have is you have a really good.
Speaker 1: Movement that's defined right, and you make music that fit
Speaker 1: the movement, but you never took time to understand what
Speaker 1: makes a record great.
Speaker 7: And it's not they fault because I did, Like I
Speaker 7: told you, like we talked about a million times.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 7: But I also didn't walk around talking crazy like I was.
Speaker 7: The humility was a parent, like I just I look
Speaker 7: like I didn't know I was sucking up game. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I was like, really, y'all gonna give me this much money?
Speaker 7: Really for real. You know what I'm saying. I knew
Speaker 7: how to hustle, I knew how to do the business,
Speaker 7: but I didn't know how to make the records. So
Speaker 7: it's not even just Orlaine, it's just everything, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, like you yeah, everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People just if they feel like they can hustle you
Speaker 1: and somebody want to spend some money, they'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. Like it's it's a thousand brothers
Speaker 1: picking up video camera shooting music videos and they don't
Speaker 1: have a passion for you mean.
Speaker 2: It's the end thing.
Speaker 3: Flogging just flogging ship. You know.
Speaker 5: What's the niggas We be laughing at bro tripod niggas.
Speaker 5: Uh try they call them the TRYI bros niggas. You know,
Speaker 5: you know they feel themselves walking in the target, walking.
Speaker 1: Back out of the target, getting out the shower, parking,
Speaker 1: the caring.
Speaker 7: Oh that means they have to keep getting out the
Speaker 7: car to reset the camera.
Speaker 5: And I'm like waking up in the morning, nigga to
Speaker 5: to like the camera was on the whole time and
Speaker 5: you're waking up opening the blind as if you didn't
Speaker 5: get back in the car in the.
Speaker 3: Bed and had to do it again, like that's a
Speaker 3: that's an will hustle, Like that's a thing, what's a
Speaker 3: real thing? Bro?
Speaker 1: It also scares me. I look, I genuinely believe intellect
Speaker 1: is a gift. You can nurture it, but you can't
Speaker 1: create it if it's not as if the light, if
Speaker 1: the light don't go off of people, it don't go off,
Speaker 1: And there's nothing you could do to make that light
Speaker 1: go off of people.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: You can educate them, right, you can push them in
Speaker 1: a correct direction, but you can't make them think. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't teach people. You can develop thought again, and
Speaker 1: you can nurture thought, but you can't create the desire
Speaker 1: to know. And when you watch people, now, how people
Speaker 1: are sheep? I used to really believe. I used to
Speaker 1: be the furthest part of you know, worrying about gay
Speaker 1: people being on television or let's say, a trans person
Speaker 1: being on television, because I'm like, there's no way you
Speaker 1: convince me that there is a man who will take
Speaker 1: dick just because it's in, because that's a uh uh,
Speaker 1: like like a thing that's monetizable.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: I never believe in a million years you could convince
Speaker 1: me a man would take dick or act like they
Speaker 1: take dick to make I did not, No, I didn't
Speaker 1: known the things that I didn't know create Oh a
Speaker 1: oh a man.
Speaker 3: This new this the new this the new ship right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, they doing it with the man.
Speaker 7: So now I'm genuinely convinced people will just say for
Speaker 7: pay or people will actually act like homosexuals to benefit
Speaker 7: they're doing.
Speaker 3: Man, It's like when I was just at this little fast.
Speaker 2: That's crazy ship. It's a crazy concept man. From where
Speaker 2: I come from.
Speaker 7: Almost sound unbelievable, but sh it's crazy.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm watching people make decisions, and I realized, I'm starting
Speaker 1: to realize how many people was already on the edge
Speaker 1: of life in different places.
Speaker 2: He was already ready to go. They just let they
Speaker 2: just they just incentivized it for you. Hurd it up,
Speaker 2: you SA, you hurried up and pop.
Speaker 6: You and you paid.
Speaker 3: Always want to.
Speaker 2: Wear it now.
Speaker 7: From Atlanta? The boy from Georgia, Yo, what's going on here?
Speaker 7: I genuinely do not think he's a gay man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean whatever, I just it's only my I
Speaker 2: have a moral compass. You know, it's a certain there's
Speaker 2: no certain amount of money to make me compromise who
Speaker 2: I am as a man for that's some weird those ship.
Speaker 2: So I guess if you really want to get out
Speaker 2: that bad of whatever situation, that there's another way then
Speaker 2: you having to to emasculate yourself in front of the
Speaker 2: world because you can never unring a bell. So you
Speaker 2: may say that you don't think they are, but I have.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have my own opinion on and shit
Speaker 2: like that, But I mean I've also seen dudes that
Speaker 2: are you know, whatever they are, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and still be thugged out. I've seen all that shit
Speaker 2: we all have. We're not oblivio, We're not oblivious to it.
Speaker 2: My whole my whole issue with the whole thing is
Speaker 2: just at this point in time, twenty twenty four, just
Speaker 2: be who you are, man, because who you who else?
Speaker 2: Who you see right here? Who you glasses? I know
Speaker 2: you to be him west Side. We ain't got no
Speaker 2: reason to front what you say, perpetrate the fraud, you
Speaker 2: know future if you a certain way, just be that
Speaker 2: way and be proud of that shit, man.
Speaker 5: Because you could be anything you want now and people
Speaker 5: be okay with it, like, oh I get it, Like
Speaker 5: you're brave or whatever, like you could be.
Speaker 3: Whatever you want, like you could be anything. We seen it.
Speaker 3: You were just talking about it like you know, like like.
Speaker 2: I really you.
Speaker 7: Know, I don't believe it flat flat.
Speaker 5: You can be anything with angels in the outfield, say
Speaker 5: it can happen.
Speaker 3: Happen.
Speaker 7: Oh God, right there, it can happen.
Speaker 3: Bro, his imagined it can happen.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Nah, I used to think I knew every day, man,
Speaker 1: I'll be learning some ship and I didn't.
Speaker 7: I had no idea.
Speaker 2: I had no idea.
Speaker 1: Bro, I really didn't realize how many sheep we're out
Speaker 1: there and I'm not sheep is not a negative connotation.
Speaker 7: It's funny because it'll.
Speaker 1: Be people that sheep telling me I'm a sheep and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I thought about this all night.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: See, when you're dealing with the Internet and communicating with
Speaker 5: people who just hitting you out of their emotions and
Speaker 5: niggas got anime characters as they profile pictures, Bro, you
Speaker 5: gotta understand them.
Speaker 3: Niggas, it's a different level of loss. You gotta you.
Speaker 3: You literally are on here.
Speaker 5: You see something you don't like, go make a profile,
Speaker 5: get an anime character and type a nigga in disrespect him, Like,
Speaker 5: do you do you realize.
Speaker 3: How much of a whole ass loser nigga you gotta
Speaker 3: be to do that.
Speaker 5: And they all over the internet and you and you
Speaker 5: having a conversation with some ship you didn't study, you
Speaker 5: really paid attention to you. You're giving real information on
Speaker 5: your with your thoughts, and they had just come just
Speaker 5: to say, shut your bitch ass up.
Speaker 3: Nigga, you ain't.
Speaker 7: Six tweets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got two followers.
Speaker 1: All this ship is when they be getting you about
Speaker 1: engagement and they got twelve followers and no likee. They
Speaker 1: be like, you only got one hundred and seventy lights
Speaker 1: and be like could that be your choice?
Speaker 2: We has likes.
Speaker 3: Picture niggas saying it killing me right now.
Speaker 5: I clicked all the niggas. I click on their profile.
Speaker 5: Go look at their profile. Be like it makes sense, bro,
Speaker 5: the colder you look at just go look at it.
Speaker 3: You like, look at this.
Speaker 1: When I made two pac months dying and came out
Speaker 1: and it's people like you just trying to get paid
Speaker 1: on you, trying to get successful off another man's name
Speaker 1: and their name would be mcavelly to go and it's
Speaker 1: a picture of Tupac and they.
Speaker 7: What you do and they posting all this videos and
Speaker 7: free and I'm like, what the fuck.
Speaker 3: Man, I mean, you didn't film that ship and nothing?
Speaker 1: Yea, I have one song, like their whole profile be
Speaker 1: dedicated to Tupac and the following they got is because
Speaker 1: they post about two parts.
Speaker 7: I made one song in one video.
Speaker 3: Man, them niggas will get on here.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I didn't got so disrespected in comments before.
Speaker 6: I just laughed, like, damn, nigga.
Speaker 7: That a dude told me today he like me and
Speaker 7: why you on Drake dick so hard? And I was like, damn.
Speaker 7: And I looked at his profile picture.
Speaker 1: It was a picture of Drake and then his signature
Speaker 1: said O v oh mark and all his posts was
Speaker 1: different Drake things. I'm like, oh, you're on Drake's dick.
Speaker 1: I'm just giving an analysis of what I saw, and
Speaker 1: you're on his dick. You're like you O v oh
Speaker 1: like them people don't know you, like you're.
Speaker 5: Aware tweeting that ship under a house nigga would have
Speaker 5: had raccoon nigga like just weird old niggas.
Speaker 3: Just you know what I mean, just two niggas is different.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, man, I wish you had something to
Speaker 5: where you can see the niggas that that like in
Speaker 5: real time typing it.
Speaker 3: I wish you yeah, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Dude was like, yeah, if I see you and if
Speaker 1: I see you in the six, I'm like, bro, you
Speaker 1: can tell people who really know me. They just free
Speaker 1: tweeted it laugh because they'd be like if you saw this, nigga,
Speaker 1: you just and I'm like.
Speaker 7: You you lucky, your little bitch.
Speaker 1: Ass, and I'm just like, it's hilarious, bitch ass, nigga,
Speaker 1: you just hating. And I'm like they'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you you have a half a career and I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at you like you don't have a twelfth of
Speaker 1: a career.
Speaker 9: They call you bro, they call you bro, like, nigga,
Speaker 9: how do you know I have more money than you?
Speaker 9: Type because you you you broke money right now.
Speaker 1: I don't have more money than Drake, But I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about Drake's money. Like I would never talk about
Speaker 1: somebody that like, I would never speak about like like
Speaker 1: how we did the live stream about j co I
Speaker 1: would never talk about j Cole's rap skills.
Speaker 7: I would never in a twine in a million.
Speaker 1: Years, when I play with that nigga rap skills, we
Speaker 1: could focus on the topic. I'm not gonna get loose.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna start playing with what this man do
Speaker 1: in the booth. Just like Drake, I don't play with
Speaker 1: niggas who I know is excellent that they crap.
Speaker 2: What just put just pointing things out, just just pointing
Speaker 2: out specifics, specifics, specific characteristics.
Speaker 7: Play in my arena behaviors.
Speaker 1: I don't play where I know niggas ain't to be
Speaker 1: played with, and I put respect on the position that
Speaker 1: they ain't to.
Speaker 7: Be played with.
Speaker 3: Drake learned this lesson.
Speaker 2: Because give a disclaimer, like like in no way, shape
Speaker 2: or form, and yeah, I'm playing with this guy's pen.
Speaker 2: I'm merely stating a fact. I'm just merely giving you
Speaker 2: my take on this situation, on this specific situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they oh conclusion life, Yeah you just talking ship.
Speaker 1: You can't fuck with these niggas.
Speaker 2: Okay, listen, that's different part of the conversation.
Speaker 1: And that's different too, because again I've said it like
Speaker 1: Drake for sure, you know what j Cole for sure,
Speaker 1: his pen is sharp and it may be even maybe
Speaker 1: better than mine. Like I can't play with him. That
Speaker 1: niggas an A plus. He's a songwriter, he's MC. But
Speaker 1: it's different getting into a conflict with another MC, especially
Speaker 1: one that has a grasp on culture. And that's where
Speaker 1: somebody like Drake got it wrong with Kendrick. With Kendrick
Speaker 1: is don't get me wrong, he's just his quality of
Speaker 1: an MC is Drake. Maybe Drake is a Tabit could
Speaker 1: be considered more of a songwriter, right, But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know what I mean, it
Speaker 1: won't be that far. But where he didn't measure correctly
Speaker 1: is when it came to culture. He measured that ship wrong.
Speaker 1: When I tell you he got it wrong, he got
Speaker 1: it wrong. I mean he got it show motherfucking wrong.
Speaker 1: Dog that it don't even make no sense.
Speaker 3: And that's what.
Speaker 1: Queen, that's where I think it makes the most sense.
Speaker 1: Where again I was telling trapping him earlier, it's their fault.
Speaker 1: It's New York people's fault that make people think that
Speaker 1: it's just about writing and rapping.
Speaker 7: No no, no, no no no no no no no
Speaker 7: no no.
Speaker 2: This is something difference. We were talking about hustle culture.
Speaker 1: We're talking about how everybody is looking on Instagram right now, right,
Speaker 1: and they are just emulating somebody else hustle. I was
Speaker 1: telling him a story about my homeboy, Stage shout out
Speaker 1: to my homeboy. Stage Age told me big Daddy you
Speaker 1: He told me he was gonna open up a barbecue joint.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Stage, you never barbecue like that before. He's like,
Speaker 1: I put someone on the grim, Like no, like you
Speaker 1: know you barbecue. He was like, no, it's still gonna work.
Speaker 1: I'm I hire a cook and I get some girls
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna call it big Daddy and I'm
Speaker 1: Big Daddy. And Stage is five ft eleven, one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five pounds, soaking wet with tim zone and
Speaker 1: a thousand pounds of pennies in his pocket. But because
Speaker 1: he saw somebody else on Instagram doing well with a
Speaker 1: barbecue joint, he like, I can do that too.
Speaker 7: He don't even care that he really can't. Barbecue.
Speaker 4: Was playing on making get money, money, money, money, that.
Speaker 3: Nigga. It's about this nigga. That's what niggas be on.
Speaker 7: For Get this money, nigga to get these fine bro
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 5: You brisket on skates Nigga and Daisy dukes, niggaig.
Speaker 2: This could be dry.
Speaker 4: I'm taking two of those.
Speaker 2: You a piece of supported.
Speaker 1: They don't got no smoke ring coming back to twine,
Speaker 1: they don't got no bark. You don't when you hold
Speaker 1: it up, fall and fold and mother.
Speaker 6: But but this is what But this is what it
Speaker 6: is though, and we we could heare that. We compare
Speaker 6: hip hop to this all the time though. So it's
Speaker 6: like it's like when you go and you say, yo,
Speaker 6: you have some good food from you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: nigga gonna nigga point me to McDonald's. I'm saying that's there,
Speaker 6: ain't nothing but some trash ass hip hop right there.
Speaker 6: It ain't really know what I'm saying, gonna do anything
Speaker 6: for my soul right there. It's the same ship within
Speaker 6: that though, you know what I'm saying, So like like
Speaker 6: a nigga. But but it's gonna be soving for for
Speaker 6: for a moment though.
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
Speaker 1: Though, I don't know if McDonald's would be considered trash
Speaker 1: ass hip hop.
Speaker 7: McDonald's is pop.
Speaker 3: Music, s Backstreet you know what to expect.
Speaker 6: No, Yeah, no, I don't agree with that. It's it's
Speaker 6: some trash ass McDonald's hip hop. That's that's all saying.
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Depends on what McDonald's.
Speaker 4: Telling and still sell records. Bullshit that sell records.
Speaker 7: Who is McDonald's trash ass hip hop?
Speaker 4: Travis Scott?
Speaker 3: Can you say that he rap?
Speaker 7: Make Travis Scott hip hop man?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 7: Scott makes rage music.
Speaker 4: No he makes hip hop?
Speaker 7: No he doesn't.
Speaker 4: It's a yeah. He knows about his form though, too,
Speaker 4: because you know what, it's original, that's that's not that's
Speaker 4: not just a little many means behind him that's doing
Speaker 4: the same ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hip hop is not original. I don't know
Speaker 1: where you got that from. Needed No, it's not not
Speaker 1: one of the songs.
Speaker 4: They know what.
Speaker 6: You know what Seanta the other day Yo Sean said,
Speaker 6: before hip hop came around, the record player was in
Speaker 6: the playing section.
Speaker 2: Coming around.
Speaker 6: You say, I've seen the recordlayers in seeing ash. I
Speaker 6: believe it because we made a record.
Speaker 4: Player an instrument. Wow, you know what I'm saying. On
Speaker 4: some real Yes, that's origionality.
Speaker 1: That's that's repurposing something. No, that's not originality, that's reperson
Speaker 1: that's repurposing something. Listen, I do think hip hop is
Speaker 1: all about some level of uniqueness, but it's not about
Speaker 1: dire originality.
Speaker 7: And I think also, this is a whole other.
Speaker 1: Conversation that I want to do on the Live tomorrow
Speaker 1: on Monday rather, but that's what we're talking about with
Speaker 1: hip hop. Like I think we're in this desperate straight
Speaker 1: like hip hop and start. What's crazy to me is
Speaker 1: trapp hip hop and gang banging are so much the same.
Speaker 7: It's pissing me off.
Speaker 1: It's exactly the same when the G homies in New
Speaker 1: York shout out to the g homies that I fucked
Speaker 1: with from the Bronx of Spaish, the old g homies
Speaker 1: that showed me love when they were starting hip hop
Speaker 1: in sixty nine.
Speaker 7: We were starting crips and bloods in sixty nine. It's
Speaker 7: all driven from.
Speaker 1: The same poverty and the dire need to express what's
Speaker 1: going on and in the current situations and enjoy yourself
Speaker 1: and all that.
Speaker 2: But there is this weird.
Speaker 7: Space to where we keep trying to make people a
Speaker 7: part of it. Like I got into it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my little homie on the podcast. We
Speaker 1: got into a real argument because this nigga keep trying
Speaker 1: to put on people that we don't know. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of that, and that's happening in every community.
Speaker 1: Like Travis Scott does not call himself a hip hop artist,
Speaker 1: He calls himself a rage artist.
Speaker 7: Lil Uzi vert calls himself a rock star, but him pop.
Speaker 1: People are so desperate to get people in that they
Speaker 1: just letting anybody in when they don't want to be
Speaker 1: that one. Really, as black people, we should be really
Speaker 1: pushing them to go back and colonize other ship like rock,
Speaker 1: Like we should be pushing Little Uzi to be in
Speaker 1: the rock category. Because it's okay for that brother from
Speaker 1: Philly to redefine rock music because we started it anyway.
Speaker 1: It's okay for Travis Scott to make an alternative style
Speaker 1: that he called rages and it creates his own category.
Speaker 1: But the fact that we keep trying to lump it
Speaker 1: into hip hop when it's not influenced to a full
Speaker 1: degree by hip hop, I.
Speaker 3: Think that's the easiest thing to call it too, because
Speaker 3: people really don't have.
Speaker 7: Cold trying this on a live stream. Nigger rapper nigga.
Speaker 2: If it's it's it's said whatever, they want to call
Speaker 2: you a ninja like that, It just call you a rapper.
Speaker 7: Past four albums over forty years.
Speaker 2: He not even a rapper though, that's just crazy. He's
Speaker 2: rapp albums.
Speaker 7: They call it rapper P Diddy, liquor longer than been
Speaker 7: a rapper.
Speaker 1: That's so closed, longer than he's been a Rapperuff owns
Speaker 1: a TV network. Why is it when Cuz on the
Speaker 1: television right now for this court case, they be like
Speaker 1: rapper P Diddy.
Speaker 3: Bro, they already know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Bro, he created some she created some ship when you
Speaker 2: came up with.
Speaker 7: He got the hard e r he got? Did he
Speaker 7: goes back to the court again today nigger Shan.
Speaker 3: Combs, imagine being a.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 7: You know that's what they said, because guess what trap.
Speaker 1: If they say liquor executive Sean Combs, he might be innocent.
Speaker 1: If they say network owners, he might be innocent.
Speaker 7: If they say I'm newer Sean Coins, he might be innocent.
Speaker 7: But you know what if they say rapper puff nigger puff, rapper, rapper, rapper, Sean.
Speaker 4: Rapper, former crack dealer, that is crazy Bill being a
Speaker 4: crack dealer.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell y'all, but this is but I
Speaker 1: want us to stop doing it within saying, Coach, if
Speaker 1: people tell us that they are doing something, we should
Speaker 1: push them to do that and enjoy what they're doing
Speaker 1: versus dragging them into the fold.
Speaker 7: Like, same thing, with this same thing, with this crippon,
Speaker 7: stop putting people on that. Don't grow up with you.
Speaker 7: What are you doing? Why are you allowing these strangers
Speaker 7: to claim the fame?
Speaker 1: And it pissed me off, trap because I used to
Speaker 1: get into it all my homies, bro, and they be like, man,
Speaker 1: don't say no smart ship. You know how fucking irritating
Speaker 1: that is. Like you have a great idea. Niggas don't
Speaker 1: want to hear because I hear that smart man. He's
Speaker 1: saying that's smart ship.
Speaker 3: Tell you he see you thinking about your answer.
Speaker 7: Here you go, you're gonna say some smart ass ship.
Speaker 3: Smarty, my nigga, that's.
Speaker 4: All I want to do.
Speaker 7: Smarty Cuz I remember I was telephone.
Speaker 1: Right, were getting thousands of thousands of dollars a week,
Speaker 1: all of us ourselves.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, we should put together.
Speaker 1: We should take three hundred apiece and put it together
Speaker 1: and give a homie a scholarship who get good grades.
Speaker 2: Smart seventh Street, that's your new alias Smarty Smarty Low.
Speaker 7: Last week. I got my homies last year.
Speaker 1: This is a real story, bro, I told this story
Speaker 1: before I tell you how to get This is just
Speaker 1: hilarious because yeah, probably can't make an exact same thing
Speaker 1: I tell the homies. I said, hey, man, I said
Speaker 1: we should all pay a text. They said what I said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should pay a tax. I mean like, if we
Speaker 1: all put in twenty five dollars a month, everybody that
Speaker 1: cleaned the shit, we could get the young homies who
Speaker 1: don't got insured. We can need a group rate on
Speaker 1: them who gang banging, they can have insurance so if
Speaker 1: something happened to them, at least when it's time to
Speaker 1: bear and their mom get a check. All the homies
Speaker 1: are some good standing. That's in prison, you feel me.
Speaker 1: We can make sure they keep money on their books
Speaker 1: so they can they not living a bad life.
Speaker 3: At least they have something.
Speaker 5: Right now?
Speaker 4: What you doing about right?
Speaker 2: It's not hope, I hope keep it that ship nowhere?
Speaker 7: Oh no, it's not.
Speaker 4: It's not really weird. But where is the money.
Speaker 7: None of us is hustling no more?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: The money coming from anywhere, niggas come from.
Speaker 7: Better got taxed got of course he got get taxed again.
Speaker 1: But that's not the point. Old their homies on the truck.
Speaker 1: The other homie owned the motors, put together motorcycles for
Speaker 1: the living. None of these niggas is hustling no more. Okay,
Speaker 1: niggas have elevated. Niggas went to prison when I when
Speaker 1: I when hip hop saved my life and I built
Speaker 1: that arc nigga.
Speaker 7: God gave me that art design because the flood was coming.
Speaker 7: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Everybody I was hustling went to the fans or prison
Speaker 1: probably within the next You.
Speaker 4: Tell me, once hip hop came in your life, you left,
Speaker 4: you left the streets alone completely.
Speaker 1: I never saw the serf stick again, never sold the ounce,
Speaker 1: never plugged nobody with a ziff nothing.
Speaker 7: I prayed for God, I swear to God. That's why
Speaker 7: in twenty.
Speaker 1: Eleven I went to start to figure it out, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I need I owe this a lot
Speaker 1: more than that I've been giving it. I mean, I
Speaker 1: shouldn't be hustling, and I need to really know what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 7: I didn't know that first off.
Speaker 1: Y'all do such a terrible job of telling people that
Speaker 1: it means something more y'all keep using this dumb ass
Speaker 1: element like Bro, that' shit too vague, Like I read
Speaker 1: too much to be thinking that DJing is hip hop nigga.
Speaker 1: That was DJ's before hip hop. I knew that before whatever, Bro, Bro,
Speaker 1: I put you on the what you gonna call yes
Speaker 1: the other day? You wasn't going to call with cash.
Speaker 2: That hip hop d be yes?
Speaker 1: If you as a as a Queen's nigga, brothers a
Speaker 1: New York nigga, if you don't tell people how you
Speaker 1: DJ is what makes it hip hop, not DJ.
Speaker 4: In so that put the record on and just put
Speaker 4: the record on.
Speaker 7: This like I'm a hip hop nigga.
Speaker 3: That's why I shot getting a hundred thousand nigga.
Speaker 7: The press play yes because shot hip hop?
Speaker 4: Though shap hip hop.
Speaker 2: Do y'all still use the term gaffle in the land.
Speaker 2: No gaffle.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna bring it, bring it back, bring it
Speaker 4: back on the list right there with a grand Master.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 7: Yep, we need to bring back grand Master.
Speaker 4: That's on the list. That's on the list, Mark whoever
Speaker 4: went nowhere?
Speaker 7: Mark still pops. It is a Mark Gaffle for sure.
Speaker 10: That bamboozle ain't with nowhere nowhere that that's going nowhere
Speaker 10: for New York. Son is I should I'm still calling
Speaker 10: the son. I think white people call each other son.
Speaker 3: Y'all don't say God nowhere.
Speaker 6: What about if you're speaking now, it's like if you
Speaker 6: speaking to it, were actually speaking to you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, somebody saying the five percent? You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. I'm gonna call him God like that. I
Speaker 6: ain't gonna really call it. No regular call anybody.
Speaker 4: God ain't doing that. Se Master coming God.
Speaker 7: He's a regular nigga to get his son.
Speaker 6: Huh son son, Yeah, son all, Dad might not might
Speaker 6: get a thumb, you know, I mean nothing so heard.
Speaker 6: You ever heard how they came up with the how
Speaker 6: they came with the turn thun?
Speaker 4: No Jui I said it was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 6: It was a dude from Queensbridge with a speech impediment.
Speaker 6: We always trying to say son, but we were trying
Speaker 6: to say Sonny say thun. So everybody just trying to
Speaker 6: say this ship.
Speaker 7: Came up with Cuz.
Speaker 1: It was one nigga named just cause his name was
Speaker 1: James Cuz Robinson. He used to call everybody Cuz. And
Speaker 1: he passed away and that just became the thing, nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, hip hop.
Speaker 7: And cripping and blood. It's just the fact everybody publicized
Speaker 7: we got better movies.
Speaker 6: That's a fact. I said, y'all, I forgot. I mean,
Speaker 6: that's what I mean. Like and it was, and it
Speaker 6: all took place around the same timeline. Though, to b
Speaker 6: that's the crazy about it. We're just on different separate coast,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like, that's that could be,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like, like I said, when
Speaker 6: we when they reached over to New York, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 6: like ninety four ninety five, you didn't know what the
Speaker 6: fuck they were doing with that shit. Be niggas came
Speaker 6: with their own rules being like yo, niggas, know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like they started doing their own that shit
Speaker 6: was different, you know what I'm saying. I guess I
Speaker 6: guess hip hop reached over over on the West or
Speaker 6: the South. I would say probably like eighty six or
Speaker 6: some shit like that. Eighty eight, and when we started
Speaker 6: seeing what hip hop looked like, like like that's why
Speaker 6: I'm matt. When would you feel like the first time
Speaker 6: you seen hip hop? What hip hop looked like outside
Speaker 6: of New York mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Egyptian Lover. Egyptian Lover was like around. Egyptian Lover was
Speaker 2: in the in the early to mid like early eighties.
Speaker 2: Like Egyptian Lever came right after like when Grand Master
Speaker 2: Flashing and was hot. What else came being down South
Speaker 2: like Ghetto Boys, eight Ball, MJG. But then there's a
Speaker 2: dude from the Bronx Uh. His name is mc sha
Speaker 2: d mc shads Like he was like one of the
Speaker 2: first dudes to help Atlanta like get anything jumped off.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like the it's like the like the
Speaker 2: earlier mid eighties, wasn't that long after like running Them
Speaker 2: came out that you started to hear records come from
Speaker 2: the West Coast.
Speaker 6: What I've heard it always heard it was too short
Speaker 6: and came to the West Coast. Nah was making dra
Speaker 6: don't don't do that hip hop man record.
Speaker 2: He made a record called Cabbage Fatch. She made a
Speaker 2: record called Cabbage Patch with World Class Record crew.
Speaker 7: Yes he did.
Speaker 2: He didn't just make that.
Speaker 4: Bro. I'm not gonna got West Coast.
Speaker 7: I'm telling you what we know, me being official West
Speaker 7: Coast nigga.
Speaker 1: Please and I'm so grateful that hip hop has inspired
Speaker 1: me in a way to really understand what happened. There
Speaker 1: were red hip hop records coming out on the West
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty one. I think we had this conversation
Speaker 1: Rappers Rap Disco Company. I told you they were making
Speaker 1: answer records to all the big New York records. Right,
Speaker 1: So when rappers, the lights started going crazy and it
Speaker 1: reached the Cross to the West and ninth and it
Speaker 1: was a smash and it was popping this particular company,
Speaker 1: Rappers Rap Disco Company, And most people don't know disco
Speaker 1: was a huge part of hip hop and this inception
Speaker 1: you gotta really know about, you know, Fat Boys being
Speaker 1: a disco three and CuMo did and the Treachers and
Speaker 1: ah blah blah blah. How much disco is in there.
Speaker 1: So in nineteen eighty one, you should look it up.
Speaker 1: There's a song called Jigglo Rap by Captain Rap that
Speaker 1: was the West Coast answer to rappers Delight, right, And
Speaker 1: then after the message in eighty three, in nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 1: they came back with a record produced by which is
Speaker 1: one of the first records ever produced by Teddy Riley.
Speaker 1: Excuse me not Teddy Riley, but Jimmy jam Terry Lewis
Speaker 1: called bad times. So this is all right, within a
Speaker 1: less than a twelve month frame from when New York
Speaker 1: start putting out hip hop now when it started looking
Speaker 1: and taping taking a true shape in true hip hop
Speaker 1: form is six in the Morning. That's when you start
Speaker 1: getting what we in the morning.
Speaker 6: That's eighty five s Yeah but yeah, too short came
Speaker 6: out eighty five but don't stop rapping.
Speaker 1: Yeah but but I think even when he tells me
Speaker 1: the story, they're at the same time, they're the same time.
Speaker 1: So that's when you start culturally getting us, not just
Speaker 1: rap songs. So again, we had hip hop records early,
Speaker 1: Like I don't, I don't know if it's right. I
Speaker 1: need to talk to them, you know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's fair if I asked him. But I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily call it West Coast hip hop as much as
Speaker 1: I call it hip hop on the West Coast.
Speaker 6: But this is what I mean by that though, right
Speaker 6: because even like when he came out with six in
Speaker 6: the Morning, he was saying, he said himself, though he
Speaker 6: took school, he took us the name. You know, I'm
Speaker 6: saying the cats and everything, so it still wasn't like, actually,
Speaker 6: y'all authentic. When Short dropped that ship Don't Stop rapping,
Speaker 6: that was authentically West Coast hip hop right there. No,
Speaker 6: it's still even our eyes outside of the West, I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But even Short said it was still inspired by the
Speaker 1: same thing that Sylvia Robinson was doing. But he can
Speaker 1: only do it, he said, when he tried to emulate
Speaker 1: them and sounding way so ice t. It's when when
Speaker 1: I asked him, it was always like, I like how
Speaker 1: he structured the song, but I wasn't like he was
Speaker 1: with the sixties. And they said, when we don't want
Speaker 1: to rap about no DJs or no MC and we
Speaker 1: want to talk about what's going on where we're from.
Speaker 1: And that's why officially it's kind of the first what's
Speaker 1: too short in that regard, whereas like what they started
Speaker 1: talking about versus again, like when you take some time,
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast, google Captain Rap, Google
Speaker 1: Disco Rap, you know disco rapper, Rappers Rap, Disco Company,
Speaker 1: you hear Captain Rap, Snoop Doggs Verse, some of the
Speaker 1: two Snoop Dogg Verse, Blood Cuz Gang Bag and everybody
Speaker 1: in the put back from that same company.
Speaker 2: It was a rap.
Speaker 7: That came from that same company.
Speaker 1: Uh bad Times was our answer to the message again
Speaker 1: produced by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, same rapper, rap
Speaker 1: disco company.
Speaker 7: So there were records here happening fast.
Speaker 1: But you don't really get respected hip hop until culturally
Speaker 1: we can see it, until we start to see your
Speaker 1: own identity. There are don't get me wrong, there are
Speaker 1: some people who got a lot of love you. I mean,
Speaker 1: you start talking about ninety three to Infinity. You know,
Speaker 1: the stuff Farside was doing where it didn't have to
Speaker 1: be heavily drenched in our street.
Speaker 6: New York sympathizer was talking about. Okay, that's the guys
Speaker 6: you was talking. I heard about them, guys heard about but.
Speaker 1: They was dope and they had great records, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you love the records. But they
Speaker 1: felt like New York, I mean the way they.
Speaker 7: Felt at that time, So not feel like a New
Speaker 7: York record role as a.
Speaker 4: No no, no no, I'm bugging. The break of It
Speaker 4: is a boom bat song.
Speaker 1: But so again n w as all boom back so again,
Speaker 1: like you, you had to really look at what mal
Speaker 1: was doing, especially if you came out in that second tier,
Speaker 1: like like Drake. When dra started making hip hop, you
Speaker 1: know you you had to look at Mare, you had
Speaker 1: to look at the Juice Crew. It just it was
Speaker 1: no other way you you you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It became your foundation. But he took his too, He
Speaker 1: took his back rock, He took his background at R
Speaker 1: and B and was able to do more with melodies
Speaker 1: than let's say, per Se Marly maul right because he
Speaker 1: came from making you know, surgery.
Speaker 7: They was already making kind of like this electro music.
Speaker 1: Because at that time, uh Cuz took over Egyptian Lover
Speaker 1: I mean, he started Egyptian Lover Song was huge. Egypt
Speaker 1: Egypt was big, and that was our answer. That was
Speaker 1: our answer to Planet Rock. Listen to some time, Go
Speaker 1: listen to Planet Rock, and then after that, listen.
Speaker 7: To Egypt Egypt and you will hear it.
Speaker 1: So again, New York has always been set in the
Speaker 1: stage on what should happened. We didn't really get our
Speaker 1: hand on hip hop into no real true way, DJ
Speaker 1: Quick Tonight. And then when Death Row happened, g I
Speaker 1: think that's when you started hearing that we had something
Speaker 1: that felt a little bit completely unique away from what
Speaker 1: New York had been doing. That's when we started being influential.
Speaker 1: When you listening to w A outside of the conversation.
Speaker 3: On a larger scale, Yeah, yeah, we we only.
Speaker 1: Talked about what they would know because if other than that,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Spade and T, we gonna start
Speaker 1: talking about some ship that was big here. I mean,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't as big Spade and T was like
Speaker 1: they sounded like yeah, yeah, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: said they was playing so still hard.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but all of them, that's what I'm saying. We
Speaker 7: had a lot of that.
Speaker 1: Remember we had the boy uh Snake Puppy right, La
Speaker 1: dream Team. We had huge la sounds that didn't say,
Speaker 1: don't like New York. But that's probably why they didn't go.
Speaker 1: The first thing that went over there, it's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be at a high level is death Row on a
Speaker 1: successful level.
Speaker 2: Look, where was a club New Vogue from? Wasn't it
Speaker 2: from the land Winn from out there?
Speaker 7: While y'all no, you're talking about rumors?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's the bab okay well yeah yeah
Speaker 1: five hours away yeah yeah yeah, so uh yes, that's
Speaker 1: micing them that sun the hook on I got five
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. So no.
Speaker 1: So again it's like, uh, I think we just got
Speaker 1: a hustle culture and we don't have no passion in it.
Speaker 1: And I think there's no passion in it because everybody
Speaker 1: just pursuing money.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 7: They just hustling.
Speaker 1: And like I said evincedly, if you just keep exchanging
Speaker 1: your time for money, you're gonna have a problem.
Speaker 7: God.
Speaker 1: Eventually, start to figure out what your natural thing is
Speaker 1: and get a passion and building that versus looking at
Speaker 1: the next person on social media and saying, oh, they
Speaker 1: got a barbecue joint, I can open one. Two nigga,
Speaker 1: you don't know how to barbecue. Yeah, you might could
Speaker 1: hustle some people and cheat some people, and some people.
Speaker 7: Might buy because you got the right marketing.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, if you figure
Speaker 1: out what you do great and take that hustle and
Speaker 1: put it into what makes you unique and special and
Speaker 1: what you got your experience at niggas just open up
Speaker 1: barbecue joints.
Speaker 7: It ain't barbecue for a year.
Speaker 2: What's the second single off an LL's album called Passion
Speaker 2: Passion Passion and he says that too.
Speaker 7: People like passion.
Speaker 2: It's about passion, bro.
Speaker 7: Everybody's just in the pursuit of a bag.
Speaker 1: But it's like, bro, that is not again, if you
Speaker 1: have to exchange your money, your time for money, man,
Speaker 1: it ain't worth it.
Speaker 3: And then watching people who they think getting the bag,
Speaker 3: who are not getting the bag.
Speaker 7: They learning about getting the bag.
Speaker 5: It's like y'all think, oh, y'all think that's making a
Speaker 5: lot of money. Like it's not making them money.
Speaker 6: Do you realize back when Wu Tang first came out,
Speaker 6: niggas bragging about riding around at monsters and MP He's biggie.
Speaker 7: Was probably getting three thousand dollars a show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, but.
Speaker 7: He kept the book. It's gonna change their life.
Speaker 2: They kept the buck right.
Speaker 5: Doing something you nigga wouldn't even getting, Like, damn nigga,
Speaker 5: I got paid because niggas.
Speaker 1: Wasn't even getting five Jesus shows twine, they wouldn't even
Speaker 1: That was them over exaggerating.
Speaker 7: Five Jesus shows was an over exaggeration.
Speaker 2: Meloy Meldon was splitting up to two hundred, three hundred dollars.
Speaker 7: That's back when you show back in the day.
Speaker 6: You know who thought that is though, right, who is that?
Speaker 6: Who fault is it that they love? He brought the
Speaker 6: diamond and the glisten, He brought the old, the whole Backado.
Speaker 6: It's like, Yo, you know what I'm saying, we're doing.
Speaker 6: We're doing the look, we're doing the show. What the
Speaker 6: fucking we're doing?
Speaker 2: The man chick who did that?
Speaker 3: From Juicy?
Speaker 6: From Juicy on be it was the whole put big
Speaker 6: in the suit, all that ship he gave it gave
Speaker 6: more value to hip hop. People looked at hip hop.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Yo, the niggas get money, so you had to.
Speaker 6: So now from that point you gotta approach it to
Speaker 6: that way.
Speaker 3: Did you call him?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out who you did? You call
Speaker 2: him the deadler? Look the whole time, I'm like, glass,
Speaker 2: why he while he while he while you dropping his jewels?
Speaker 2: I'm like, who the fuck is he talking about?
Speaker 7: I think that he's doing that too to fit the
Speaker 7: mafioso rap ship that they was on.
Speaker 6: No, it was also the Champagne and the video all thattually.
Speaker 6: Remember you sent me one talent, bro. You sent it
Speaker 6: to me one time last year. All they do, all
Speaker 6: they do is try to they all they do is
Speaker 6: try to ors you know what I'm saying, wealth and
Speaker 6: so our community and what I'm saying, and people glamor
Speaker 6: you say you said it, dope.
Speaker 1: The one time they try to make they try to
Speaker 1: sell wealth to us exactly so well, but back in.
Speaker 3: The day, if you heard a nigga got a record
Speaker 3: deal when you was young, when he was young, he
Speaker 3: thought he was rich, type ship record deal and you rich,
Speaker 3: that nigga rich, it's a game.
Speaker 4: It was Bentley Billy.
Speaker 7: I actually was an am rich to some degree. But
Speaker 7: the dude, that's joke.
Speaker 4: By niggas in that the first check or the first check,
Speaker 4: the first check.
Speaker 5: Hey look when that nigga, Hey look when I met Glass.
Speaker 5: I'm telling I met glasses.
Speaker 3: Nigga.
Speaker 5: We was in the apartment rapping with like the nigga
Speaker 5: want like got it right when I first met this nigga, mattress.
Speaker 3: No sheet on it in the room. Nigga got it.
Speaker 5: Next time, nigga, I ain't see him in a couple
Speaker 5: of years, and this nigga with game is crazy. Then
Speaker 5: like a few months after that, they said this nigga
Speaker 5: got one point said he was he was like the nigga,
Speaker 5: that Larry Parker commercial, nigga.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was over after that nig Bentley, it was over
Speaker 3: after he sat.
Speaker 7: It was blue?
Speaker 2: It was blue?
Speaker 7: Was it blue?
Speaker 4: Maybe blue? By right?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: But again that ain't the point. The point I'm saying
Speaker 1: is that's example of not having like I had a like.
Speaker 1: I didn't even have enough passion. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: why that's my point.
Speaker 2: Like, like just right here, who did this right here?
Speaker 2: When they sing the whip.
Speaker 8: Everybody by the dropped top South he was liked.
Speaker 1: And I'm jumping out the friction and everything. I'm looking
Speaker 1: crazy and I'm just really shot. Niggas it was bad.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. It's beautiful, man.
Speaker 1: Because I was like, I'm at the Roscoe. I'm at
Speaker 1: the roscos at P and B got slumped the bro.
Speaker 7: All the time. I should really just pork right there.
Speaker 7: I'm just there sitting on the bricks with the homies.
Speaker 4: Purposes.
Speaker 2: Only man, when you was plugged there so you could
Speaker 2: be there like everybody.
Speaker 7: I mean, you can't.
Speaker 1: It's I was born here and that ship still you
Speaker 1: that's still could happen to me. You ain't a past, right,
Speaker 1: I get it, but you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: get Well, Look we finish wrapping up.
Speaker 2: No sellings. You give me. We're right back on that
Speaker 2: part right there. My boy Trap Brashole popped there.
Speaker 1: Let y'all make sure y'all eighty HD motherfucking clubhouse together.
Speaker 2: They got to crack.
Speaker 1: My man Twine Mac, the true original founder of a
Speaker 1: Dog contemporary hip hop, my man Joey Westside, one half
Speaker 1: of the l A Giants, one third of the super
Speaker 1: group one ten.
Speaker 7: New album coming soon. That part right there, Man, we
Speaker 7: out this?
Speaker 4: What up?
Speaker 3: What what?
Speaker 2: What? What?
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Speaker 1: This episode was recorded right here on the West coast
Speaker 1: of the USA and produced about the Black Effect Podcast
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Speaker 7: Yeah