WEBVTT - How Did Joe Haeg Perform in Ali Marpet's Place vs. the Saints? | Bucs Insider

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Good morning Bucks fans. Hope everyone is doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Phillips here with Scott Smith at his time for

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<v Speaker 1>Buccaneers Insider Live presented by Miller Lite. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I want to honor Veterans Day, So Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Veterans Day. Thank you so much to everybody who has served,

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<v Speaker 1>is serving family members of people who have served. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, we want to honor all of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys every day. Veterans Day is just a very

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<v Speaker 1>specific special time, but the Buccaneers love honoring military families

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<v Speaker 1>and everything you guys do. So first of all, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to all of you guys for the veterans. UM. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when we're gonna start out, I know that this game

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about before the show, like, oh boy, this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be fun to discuss. So we need all

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<v Speaker 1>of your questions. We want to hear what you guys

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<v Speaker 1>want to know, what you want to talk to us about.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're not already watching on Facebook, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you head over there. You can leave your questions for

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<v Speaker 1>us in the comment section. As we get people a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to do that. UM, we can start by just

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<v Speaker 1>some of the takeaways of now that we've heard him

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the teams since the game in press conferences,

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<v Speaker 1>what it feels like they have learned from that game,

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<v Speaker 1>their mindset moving forward, some of the things that you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard people say, Well, actually, the only people we've heard

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<v Speaker 1>from so far Bruce, I mean, other than post game

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<v Speaker 1>this week are Bruce and Lavante. And of course, because

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a victory Monday, the players were in building

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<v Speaker 1>and to approximate in a non COVID year, what would

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<v Speaker 1>be open locker room on Monday, Uh, they got us

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<v Speaker 1>a player for a zoom call, and of course it

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<v Speaker 1>was Lavonte David. He's the stand up guy who has

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<v Speaker 1>to stand in front of the the are sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the camera in this case and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>and answer for that game. And he did a great

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<v Speaker 1>job of it. And essentially the idea is, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>say it didn't happen. Uh, you can't say it didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to own it. You have to break it

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<v Speaker 1>down and learn from it and find out what you

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<v Speaker 1>did wrong. Uh, do your best to correct whatever that was,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have to move on. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they've done from now. And you know, big losses like this,

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<v Speaker 1>they ing Um, you can't even necessarily say this one

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<v Speaker 1>only counts as one of sixteen like all the rest,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was a division game that that really carried

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<v Speaker 1>a big tiebreaker issue with it that the Bucks are

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<v Speaker 1>now behind the eight ball on. But it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to linger, and it generally doesn't. I just was looking

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<v Speaker 1>through UM games where the Bucks lost. Every team has

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<v Speaker 1>games where they've won or lost by a huge amount

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<v Speaker 1>of points, and it doesn't have any future indicator even

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<v Speaker 1>to the next week of what's going to happen. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we've seen the other side of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We demolished Green Bay surprisingly thirty eight to ten and

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<v Speaker 1>they won their next game. So, uh, it doesn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to carry on. But I think in order

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that doesn't happen, you have to learn

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<v Speaker 1>the right lessons from it, and that's certainly what they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do. Absolutely, we did get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>see the first look at a Chris Godwin back and

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<v Speaker 1>be Antonio Brown into the lineup and basically having all

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<v Speaker 1>of your wide receivers at least available for the game.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that maybe Chris is still a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>limited potentially by the thing here and that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, there are still some some little nagging

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<v Speaker 1>injury situations, but everybody was available. This is our first

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<v Speaker 1>look at that whole group. What do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we learned from seeing that, Well, Chris caught the ball. Well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a good thing. And uh, he's a tough

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<v Speaker 1>guy obviously, and he's I learned. We learned a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things. One, it's so obvious how important Chris is

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<v Speaker 1>to this offense. Uh, there were, if you count places

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<v Speaker 1>that were raised by penalty, there were fifty plays and

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the field for forty seven of them,

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<v Speaker 1>which is more than any of the other receivers. So

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't take it easy on him in his return.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also of all of the snaps, there are

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<v Speaker 1>forty six plays accountant and the Buccaneers were in three

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<v Speaker 1>or four receiver sets on forty of them. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we were talking about the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>even before the arrival of Antonio Brown. Uh, that it

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<v Speaker 1>just looked like the Buccaneers were going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>attack with a lot of three and four receiver sets,

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<v Speaker 1>just because there's so much talent at that position. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing worked in this game, and I don't think we

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<v Speaker 1>can use it as a good barometer for whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not that's the right way to go. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have to see a little bit more of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we can definitely excel with three and four receiver sets. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't really work out in this game, but I

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<v Speaker 1>still think we're gonna see a lot of that. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown played about thirty seven snaps, which or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, which coach said afterwards that wasn't really the plan,

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<v Speaker 1>but that game spiraled out of control and you were

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<v Speaker 1>trying your best to pass your way back into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of how that happened. Okay, And we

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<v Speaker 1>had a question from Anthony about the ways that are

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<v Speaker 1>different cornerbacks are being used. Um. He mentioned the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of Sean Murphy Bunty and seeming to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>slot position more Jamal on the outside and just where

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<v Speaker 1>you see is we I mean, we know Carlton is

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<v Speaker 1>our our number one, you know guy, but where you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen some of the other corners being used, well, Sean

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<v Speaker 1>is working in the slot more. He was already taking

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<v Speaker 1>all of the uh snaps in the slot in the

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<v Speaker 1>nickel package. It's just he was starting along with Carlton

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<v Speaker 1>as the two outside guy is and then moving into

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<v Speaker 1>the slot with Jamal Dean coming in to play the

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<v Speaker 1>outside in those snaps, and those are the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>your snaps, usually from six of your snaps in a

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<v Speaker 1>game are in the nickel um. The difference now is

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<v Speaker 1>that Jamal Dean is starting, so Sean the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of games has only been playing the nickel and again

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<v Speaker 1>I say only, but it's a ton of snaps, so

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<v Speaker 1>more more often than not they're all on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>But the difference is Jamale Dean playing a hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the snaps now on the outside. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's just you know, it's funny because we were getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions in the first couple like six weeks, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that maybe Jamal Dean will get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to start on side and now? And we always said, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it could happen. I mean, if you make enough plays,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of undeniable that you need to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the field. And I think that's just what has happened

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<v Speaker 1>with Jamal. So that's really the biggest change. Otherwise there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a big difference, Okay, and Russ asked, is there

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<v Speaker 1>any chance we will get Ali back on the line

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<v Speaker 1>this Sunday? And then I wanted to just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>add to that how you felt like Joe Haig did

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<v Speaker 1>stepping in for him. Well, this is we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this before. The timing of this show makes some of

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<v Speaker 1>these questions hard to answer. And with concussion, Uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>really these first couple of days are probably gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>us on the injury report what the chances of that are,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was pretty obvious from the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>week last week that he wasn't going to come off

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<v Speaker 1>the concussion protocol in time. Uh. Coach Arians didn't and

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<v Speaker 1>I think just probably for strategic reasons on Monday, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>elaborate very much on that, only to say that he

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<v Speaker 1>was still in the concussion protocol, which you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be because part of that is returning to practice. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the steps and getting off of concussion protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>And since he hadn't practiced at all last week, he

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<v Speaker 1>by necessity has to start this week in a concussion protocol. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what we don't know from Bruce's answer, since there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>much to it, is is that the reason why he's

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<v Speaker 1>still in the concussion protocol and he's gonna start practicing

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<v Speaker 1>this week, or he's not that close to returning, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no telling with the concussion really, they can vary

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit. In severity, Chris Godwin only had to

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<v Speaker 1>miss one game earlier this year and was pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go in the second week. So all you

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<v Speaker 1>can do is hope that that's the same thing with Ali.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we were answering this question on Thursday and Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>we probably have some more concrete information. Uh. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>so just stay tuned to what you see on buccaneers

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com and on our Twitter feeds. UM asked for

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Hag, Joe Hagan and Donovan Smith on the left

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<v Speaker 1>side there. Bruce arians didn't shy away from the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't the best possible performance from Donovan, and

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<v Speaker 1>part of that was because him and Joe hadn't had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time to work together, and Donovan and

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<v Speaker 1>Ali Marpett just worked together so well, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was part of the breakdowns there. So actually, Bruce said,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Haig played fine, uh, and I think the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>deal was more them to working in concert. And if

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<v Speaker 1>they have to do it again this week, you would

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<v Speaker 1>hope that they've made some progress in that regard. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brandon asked, why do you feel like Brady isn't

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<v Speaker 1>targeting Mike Evans as much? I don't know, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not in his head. Um, it's clear from

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<v Speaker 1>what the coaches say that they do want to get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball to Mike, and more often they've done some

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<v Speaker 1>things like put him in the slot in three and

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<v Speaker 1>four receiver sets. UM coach Arean said on one play

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<v Speaker 1>that I think it was a failed third down that

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<v Speaker 1>Um the ball went to. I think Gronkowski rob Gronkowski

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<v Speaker 1>and and Mike was open. UM. I certainly don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there's any specific purpose to it. It just hasn't happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But it picked up a little bit. It didn't. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't getting targeted much in the first half of

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<v Speaker 1>that game, but he got targeted a lot more in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half. So I don't think there's any rhyme

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<v Speaker 1>or reason to it. I don't think it's a trend.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just something that has happened. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>keep expecting to see a couple more big breakout games

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<v Speaker 1>from Mike. You know, he does have a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yard games this season. There have been games where

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady has targeted him a lot. Um. The overall

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<v Speaker 1>answer is the ball has really been spread around a

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<v Speaker 1>ton this This team has ten different guys with ten catches,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of incredible. Uh So, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of that, there's a lot of weapons, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's a bit just flukey great. Um. We also

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<v Speaker 1>had a question about if we're seeing the effects of

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<v Speaker 1>Vita being out potentially if that's affected, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>push they've been able to get stopping the run, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen overall what the results has been of

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<v Speaker 1>him being out and how the guys have been able

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<v Speaker 1>to try to step in for him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, right after Vita went out, the run defense

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<v Speaker 1>stayed pretty strong. Uh the one two weeks ago, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they broke our streak of not allowing a hundred yards,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a hundred one yards and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that had to do with Daniel Jones running the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't get over a hundred without the quarterback scrambling

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<v Speaker 1>for about thirty yards, So that one wasn't that big

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<v Speaker 1>of deal. So we're basically talking about one game. It

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<v Speaker 1>was this one against Alvin Kamara and then also a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of um uh Taysom Hill, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>something you normally have to face, and they did get

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred thirty yards. They also didn't need to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything but run the ball in the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>by thirty one points. Uh and and from what we

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<v Speaker 1>heard afterwards, some of that had to do with missed gaps,

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<v Speaker 1>which really isn't you know, gap control issues, which really

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<v Speaker 1>isn't uh tied directly to whether or not Vitave is

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<v Speaker 1>in there. If the guy was supposed to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the gap and he wasn't, that would have been the

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<v Speaker 1>same whether or not Vita was in there. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it seems obvious that your run defense wouldn't be as

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<v Speaker 1>good when you lose one of the best d line

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<v Speaker 1>run nose tackle run stoppers in the league. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's really a massive issue. I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>still very good against the run. And then we'll close

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<v Speaker 1>with this Christian McCaffrey. You're not sure if he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>available on Sunday. Um just how important is that to

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<v Speaker 1>the way this game could go? And what that could

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<v Speaker 1>mean in terms of how the Bucks prepare for this team. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they have to prepare differently because what

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<v Speaker 1>the Panthers have found out is that Mike Davis, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really look much like Christian McCaffrey, more of

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<v Speaker 1>a shorter, more compact guy. Uh is able to run

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<v Speaker 1>the same place. He's a very very good pass catcher.

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<v Speaker 1>He's actually second in the NFL among two kamara among

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<v Speaker 1>running backs and receptions. So they don't have to change

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<v Speaker 1>their offense. They can do all the things they do

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<v Speaker 1>with Christian McCaffrey. With Mike Davis. Uh, nobody's Christian McCaffrey.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Davis has been very very good it, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>not Christian. And when you when McCaffrey came back this

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<v Speaker 1>last week, he merely got a hundred fifty yards and

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<v Speaker 1>two touchdowns hunts from scrimmage. That is so obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers are better with McCaffrey in there. But the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of that coin is in the last eighteen game

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<v Speaker 1>or nineteen games that McCaffrey has played since the start

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and nineteen, he's reached he's exceeded a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards from scrimmage in fifteen of those, So the

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<v Speaker 1>other four games that he hasn't one was a ninety

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<v Speaker 1>eight yard game against New Orleans last year, and the

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<v Speaker 1>other three year all against the Buccaneers. So the only

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<v Speaker 1>defense that has really been able to slow down Christian

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<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey in the entire NFL the last two years is

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<v Speaker 1>the Buccaneers. So at least you should go into a

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<v Speaker 1>confident that even if cmc plays, you do have some

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<v Speaker 1>someone of an answer for all Right, well that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it for us on Buccaneers Insider Live presented by

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<v Speaker 1>Miller Lyte. Thanks as always for those questions. We will

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<v Speaker 1>be back here next week. We'll see then, m