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Speaker 1: of the most accurate rankers in the game top five

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Speaker 1: inaccuracy of Fantasy pros over the past three seasons, Sean Currenty,

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Speaker 1: the odds maker. Sean, you got me in our tighten

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I can't wait. This is like some of my

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Speaker 2: think this year's tight end rookie class is phenomenal. So

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Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be more than what the two

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Speaker 2: this Serier's class is much much better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we hope. Last year it was a swim pickings

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, you got me, I mean, you just

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Speaker 1: blew me out of the water here because you got

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Speaker 1: brag Bowers and it was pretty much as simple as that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you took them fifth in our draft because we

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, that that turned into a top Was he

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Speaker 2: but Bowers beat him on raw.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so that's you couldn't have done any better

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Speaker 1: I went to Tavian Sanders at thirty nine, which wasn't terrible,

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Speaker 1: This year we got we'll go we lease Bastball ADP one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that one. I'm gonna have to go

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Speaker 1: No, that's a smart move. We were just talking about

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Speaker 1: It's been a roller coaster ranking him because it's like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I always say you got to kind of

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Speaker 1: End Draft for twenty twenty five. Chris Raybon, Seawan Kerner.

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Speaker 1: I went Loveland, you went Helm, Sean, and then Warren

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Speaker 1: and Taylor were picks in round two, Gadston and Fanning

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Speaker 1: I'm even more curious to hear you're ago like we

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Speaker 1: got Haul's Bartolomi Woner Matabau.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, well was definitely the pick, although our

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Speaker 2: boy Greg Dolcic is bawling out.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the Tanner Hudson though he does he

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Speaker 1: could do that in pre season. I mean a preseason comment.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying he's like Theyders don't teams don't want to

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Speaker 1: put him on the field on but running downs though.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but I agree he looked better. I guess I.

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Speaker 2: Know, Well, this is rough. I'm gonna go with Jackson

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Speaker 2: Hawes just you know, he's tight end seventy eight. He

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Speaker 2: is third on the depth chart for the Bills. He's

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Speaker 2: definitely a blocking tight end. Let's not get it twisted.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna catch many balls this year,

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Speaker 2: but if Kincaid or Knox missed time, you know, he's

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Speaker 2: probably gonna see an uptick in playing time. And I'm

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Speaker 2: just hoping for, you know, a vulture touchdown or two

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Speaker 2: from him, like a Reggie Gilliam type role. So I think,

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Speaker 2: out of these guys like he's probably the best bet

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Speaker 2: to actually see a target this year, and since he's

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Speaker 2: on the Bills, I think it's more likely to be

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Speaker 2: like a potential end zone target and two to three

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Speaker 2: tight end package. So I think my projection here is

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Speaker 2: maybe minus fifteen against adp but that's better than some

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Speaker 2: of the alternatives. So I'm gonna go with haz Here

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Speaker 2: for my final pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would probably I would probably end up going

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Speaker 1: with like the guy the loaner from Denver just because

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Speaker 1: he's Peyton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because unknown, Yeah is which depth charge is because

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Speaker 3: I thought Zach Davidson is actually ahead of Not that

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Speaker 3: this really matters, It doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Davidson, he'd be more of Would he be

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Speaker 2: more of Kincaid's backup or Knoxes like.

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Speaker 1: I think Yeah, I think he'd be more of Knoxes

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Speaker 1: back up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, true blocking tight end where he get out there

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Speaker 2: with three tight end sets. So yeah, I think. You know,

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Speaker 2: it depends who you ask who is actually the third

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Speaker 2: tight end.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm curious that I didn't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if like Davidson just went down or something with

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Speaker 1: like an ending season any injury that I missed, But yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: It's just a difference tight end. For sure. Has is

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Speaker 2: gonna be a good blocking tight end. I think he'll

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Speaker 2: he'll make the roster. I think he'll be on the

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Speaker 2: you know, the active fifty three man roster. Like That's

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Speaker 2: all I can ask for. Was some of these other guys.

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Speaker 2: But I think you're right. I think rolling the dice

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Speaker 2: on a Sean Payton tight end probably had the highest ceiling.

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Speaker 2: But I'm I'm playing it safe, Raybon. I'm going with

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Speaker 2: the chicken route. Just give me just two catches this year. Please,

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Speaker 2: can't can't, can't.

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Speaker 1: Blame you you, I mean this is yeah. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's why we stop after six here. So the recap

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Flex Rookie tight end draft for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I went with Loveland in round one. Kerner went with

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Speaker 1: Gunner Helm for the Titans. I went with Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 1: In round two. Seaun went with Mason Taylor of the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Round three Gatston for me, Fann and Junior for Kerner,

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Speaker 1: four through six for Seawan was Hoots, Evans and Hawes.

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