1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes in moments from this 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So, who would have saw Atlanta upsetting Buffalo. 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: I guess you kind of did, and you were right, well. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean not entirely to be fair, you saw it 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: about it, I would have. I didn't even include Atlanta 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: plus the points is one of my picks, but I did. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: I did think they were live. And I also thought 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Atlanta was the hardest team in the league to kind 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: of get a beat on because Week one, they play, 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, a tight game comes down to a field 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: miss field goal against the Bucks. They they get annihilated 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: by Carolina, but Carolina's oddly been a good team at home. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: They beat Washington, but Washington doesn't have Jaden Daniels. And 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: then there's one other game they played. I forgot what 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: it was, and then they had a buy And so 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: I just thought Atlanta was a little bit of a 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to say unknown. Oh they beat the 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: Vikings twenty two to six in a weird game when 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: wins started like no when JJ McCarthy was in and 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: then JJ McCarthy's been hurt since then. But go ahead. Sorry? 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so Beijeon and Drake london encounted for three 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: ninety six of four hundred and forty three yards on offense. 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: Buffalo has dropped their second straight and Josh Allen's and 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: VP odds are up to plus three hundred. 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: He's number two bar On Mahomes. 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: Is it time for the Josh Allen as the best 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: player in the NFL chance to come to a simmer? 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: All right? 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: So again, hold on, let me find the exact quote. 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Let me see you. I should have looked this up beforehand. Okay, 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: so this is you. Guys know that I actually have 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: been pretty pro Bills the last couple of years. Last year, 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: I when everybody thought they might be in a rebuild. 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: I thought they'd make the AFC Championship Game. I thought 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: they'd be really good. They were. This year, I once 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: again picked them to go to the AFC Championship Game. 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: And I've been pretty consistent that I think Josh is 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: the second best quarterback in football. I with that said 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: that Josh allen hyperbole on some of these things has 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: always mystified me, and the example of it this year 43 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: is three weeks ago after a Monday night football game 44 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins when Josh was good. Don't get me wrong, 45 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: but it was against the Dolphins in that game, if 46 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: you remember, was really close late and it was coming 47 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: on the heels of a Jets game where they annihilated 48 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: the Jets. But he was a James Cook game. Josh 49 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: had thrown for one hundred and forty yards and no touchdowns. 50 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: Greeney on Get Up says, quote, I'm watching that game 51 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: last night, and no one has ever played that position 52 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: better than Josh Allen. Again, the quote is, no one 53 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: has ever played that position better than Josh Allen, And 54 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: it just seems like we we are so eager to 55 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: anoint the next guy when we're in the midst of 56 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: the guy that we sometimes, you know, get a little 57 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves. With that said, listen, Josh's had a 58 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: rough couple weeks. I still think he's the second best 59 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: quarterback in football. I also think that it was likely 60 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: unsustainable the streak he was on on not turning the 61 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: ball over, And now all of a sudden you've seen 62 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: he's turned the ball over four times in the last 63 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: three games, and the Bills, in my opinion, have real, 64 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: real question marks they have four wins. They beat Baltimore, 65 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: which at the time we thought was an awesome win. 66 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: The defense allowed forty and they needed that late comeback 67 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: to beat them. Baltimore has won one game since then. 68 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: They beat the Jets in one of the weirdest games 69 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: of the year because they outscored them thirty to ten 70 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: despite Josh, and they outgained him four Not weird, but 71 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: they just ran all over them. They outgained them four 72 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: hundred to one fifty four and the Jets had no shot. 73 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: The Jets, by the way of won zero games all year. 74 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: They beat the Dolphins in a game Josh played great, 75 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: but in a game that also was tied with They 76 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: were tied with the Dolphins with seven and a half 77 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: minutes left. The Dolphins have won one game all year. 78 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: They beat the Saints in a game that the Saints 79 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: thought they took the lead in the fourth quarter, only 80 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: to have a touchdown overturned. They had to settle for 81 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: a field goal, and that game was a two point 82 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: game in Buffalo with seven and a half minutes left. 83 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: The Saints have put won one game all year. They 84 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: then lost to the Patriots and got thoroughly handled last night. 85 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: By Atlanta and were, in my opinion, lucky to have 86 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: a shot to steal that game, because Atlanta, after doing 87 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: anything it wanted for the first three quarter, first quarter 88 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: and a half, the offense kind of went comatose on them. 89 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: And the Bills are now in a spot where they 90 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: have squandered already demands what was supposed to be their 91 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: biggest edge for this season, which is an incredibly soft 92 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: schedule that would lead them to their first one seed 93 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: since Jim Kelly was the quarterback. And now they wake 94 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: up this morning and they're not even leading their division, 95 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: and they still have games left against the Chiefs, against 96 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: the Bucks, at the Patriots, against the Eagles, at the Steelers, 97 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 1: at the Texans, and you just wonder, is this going 98 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: to be another year where Buffalo. I still think they're 99 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: gonna win the division? By the way, Like I don't 100 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: get me wrong, I wouldn't. 101 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: You wouldn't put a taste on New England winning the 102 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: division at plus one eighty five. 103 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: It's only plus one eighty five? 104 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: Is that why Vegas thinks so too? 105 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: No? I mean no, that's I might put something on 106 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo at minus two thirty. I like, I know, I 107 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: still think Buffalo. I would have thought Buffalo's minus three 108 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: hundred to win the division. New England no, but but no, 109 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean New England. I picked New England 110 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I just think Buffalo is still going 111 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: to win eleven games at least. And I don't see 112 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: New England, you know, and so, but regardless, my point 113 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: is this, it sure looks like it's gonna be a 114 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 1: season like we've seen a lot with the Bills where 115 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: they win the division, but they don't get the bye. 116 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: They beat the hell out of the team in the 117 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: wildcard round and then they play someone in their weight 118 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: class in the divisional round or the conference championship game 119 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: and get beaten. And that was It's really crazy how 120 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: bad that defense has looked this year. The again, the 121 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: Panthers only scored I'm sorry, the Falcons only scored twenty 122 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: four points. They move the ball, it will Drake Mayett 123 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: is coming out party against them. They they seem to 124 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: even though I don't know that the stats back it up. 125 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: They just seem to be a defense that can get got. 126 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: And Josh Josh is a great, great player, but the conservative, 127 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: low risks style that he's been playing the last year 128 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: and a half really doesn't fit if you don't have 129 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: a defense that you can rely on to get stops. 130 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: And I don't think they have that defense this year. 131 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: And so I I right now, if I had to 132 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: pick it, Demonse, I would still say Chiefs Bills AFC 133 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: Championship game. But now we're staring at a very real 134 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: possibility that game is going to be an arrowhead. When 135 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: the cheap the Bills were four and oh with the 136 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: Chiefs at one and two about to face the Ravens, 137 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: life comes at you fast man. And the Bills also 138 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: need a good win. They just need a good win. 139 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: What are you laughing about? 140 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: You got to get on top of your division first. 141 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: Same with Buffalo. Buffalo like mom and I am. Well, 142 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: we'll get to the Chargers and the Broncos in a minute. 143 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: Let's talk Falcons just for a second. 144 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's if it feels like Michael Pincks has 145 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: kind of gotten lost in the shuffle as far as 146 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in his drive class. 147 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: Uh what do you make of Michael Pinnicks as now? 148 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I guess he's gonna still be a 149 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: little lost in the shuffle with me, because I like, 150 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: there are certain things you really like. There's also like 151 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: last night, when that game was wrapped, essentially all Atlanta 152 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: need do was run the ball three times kick a 153 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: field goal. With two minutes left, they called a pass 154 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: play that Pinnix made a horrific decision and it was 155 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: this close being a pick six tie game when the 156 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: game was basically over. So some of that concerns me. 157 00:10:54,440 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: But Drake London is really good and Bijon is just sensational. Yeah, 158 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I picked him to win Offensive Player 159 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: of the Year as a rookie. Here's what Bjon's done 160 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: since he came into the league. His rookie year, he 161 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: had nine hundred and eighty rushing yards four hundred and 162 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: eighty receiving yards, so he had fourteen hundred and sixty 163 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: yards with eight touchdowns. Really good, not not super elite, 164 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: but really good. Last year he had fourteen hundred and 165 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: fifty rushing yards, another four hundred and thirty receiving yards 166 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: and fifteen touchdowns elite. This year he has four hundred 167 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: and eighty rushing yards and already three hundred and thirty 168 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: receiving yards, only three touchdowns, but is on pace to 169 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: shatter I think the yards from scrimmage record for a season. 170 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: He's got eight hundred yards from scrimmage through five games. 171 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: Like where I'm gonna catch though? My god, that I 172 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: had to score the most rushing touchdowns. 173 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's a bad beat. I mean, it's not a 174 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: bad beat, but it's so crazy. Get all the yard 175 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: year right exactly? Yeah. So, like, just for context on 176 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: what he's doing as a receiver, he has three hundred 177 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: and thirty eight receiving yards. Again, they've already had their 178 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: buy so he's played five games. Jamar Chase, who is 179 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: fifth Chase in a Buka? 180 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, a Buka. 181 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: Have four hundred and sixty eight and four hundred and 182 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: sixty nine receiving yards in an extra game, So he's averaging. 183 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy. He is on a yards per 184 00:12:52,800 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: game basis right now? He is where is Oh I 185 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: can't sort by that, but I mean he's sixty eight 186 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: receiving yards a game. He's top twenty in the NFL. 187 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: He's so good. He's so good. By the way, the 188 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: Falcons my NFC playoff picks demons going into the year, 189 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: and not in order, but just the seven Eagles, Commanders, Lions, Packers, 190 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: bills aren't bills. Hold on, wait, I'm gonna have something wrong. 191 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's right. You know what. I take it back. 192 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: It was Eagles, Commanders, Lions, Bears, Packers, Bucks, Rams. 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Concern about gambling in Florida, call one eight 238 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: eight admit it. In Indiana. If you were someone you 239 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: know as a gambling problem wants help, call one eight 240 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: hundred and nine with it. Gambling problem called one eight 241 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: hundred gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, 242 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: or Virginia. So the latest Ringer Top one hundred came 243 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: out and bron is outside the top ten and on 244 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: he's eleven, and on its face, I don't actually that 245 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: is within the range of what is you know, in 246 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: my opinion, an acceptable ranking, But it is what kills me? 247 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: Is who is number ten? So let me make sure 248 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: I have this right. And this is a little frustrating 249 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: to me, and I think it's fair. So eleven is Bron, 250 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: Number ten is Durant. 251 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: I knew it, didn't I didn't even see the list. 252 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: I swaw, I didn't even see the list. That's crazy. 253 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: There's just no argument that he's better. And there's no 254 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: argument that he's more available. There's no argument that he's 255 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: more durable or reliable. So and by the way, Steph 256 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: was seven. I I don't think I think Bron is 257 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: still better than Steph. That at least, though intelligent people 258 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: can disagree like all that that that is a debatable point. 259 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't get why, like people like, well, Bron's forty, 260 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: Durant's old too, and Durant misses way more time and 261 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: and so I just that that that just on its 262 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: And this is not a shot at Kevin Durant. He 263 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: is if he, Steph and Bron are all rewriting what 264 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: is really stick for old guys in this league to do? 265 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: But it is I don't get why Durant and I 266 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: think this is a good that because you can do 267 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: and this is a great interactive. They do a really 268 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: good job with these the visual pieces of these articles. 269 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: But Durant ended last season fourteenth. I don't know why 270 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: he jumped at what happened where he jumps to ten. 271 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: I just don't, I don't, I don't get it. And again, 272 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: I think Durant is unbelievable. The Rockets might be my 273 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: pick to win the championship this year. This is I 274 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: am not trying to beef with Durant. I just were 275 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: yet to have the moment, certainly yet to have the 276 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: moment post Golden State where there is a credible evidence 277 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: or even eye to based argument that Durant's better. So 278 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 1: that's a little frustrating. The other thing they put in 279 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: there was a quote from Bill where he said, if 280 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: the Nuggets win the title and he wins MVP, again, 281 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: I assume again I haven't listened to this. I've been 282 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: so in football mode. I don't think he means finals MVP. 283 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: He means regular season MVP. He's indisputably one of the 284 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: ten best players ever, and so I don't think that 285 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: he being Jokic is what. I don't know if I 286 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: said that on the front end, I don't think that 287 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: is necessarily even an incorrect take. It just though does 288 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: bear mentioning, because, as you guys know, I am the 289 00:19:52,280 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: self appointed czar of top tens having to have ten 290 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: people in them. If you are arguing that if they 291 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: win this title, they being Denver Joker is top ten, 292 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: then you are arguing three of the following people are not. Okay, 293 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: bron Kareem, Michael, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, Bird, Dream, Shaq, Steph. 294 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: That is I think a pretty universally agreed upon top twelve, 295 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: with respect to Jerry and Oscar and hell, if we 296 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: want to go super old school Mike in and with 297 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: respect to doctor j and Moses and whomever, that's the 298 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: top twelve. So if Joker wins, I think most people 299 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: are gonna say Dream is out if he's if he's 300 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: in or not, so there, that's the easiest one to 301 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: take out. I think Bill might say Wilt is out. 302 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't, but I think Bill maybe would. And then 303 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: then it gets a little tricky, which is who is 304 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: if we're just saying Dream and Wilt are the easy outs, 305 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: which and again I think Wilt's the sixth gradatest player ever. 306 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: But you're taking out Kobe, Bird, Shack, Steph. I don't know, 307 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: so four MVPs, which is what it would be for Joker, 308 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: and two rings would And by the way, I didn't 309 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: excuse me when I said, that's not including it, it's 310 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: not including Durant. I didn't even think about that. But 311 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: Durant's not in the top ten. 312 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: It is. 313 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: Top tens are gonna get really prickly for people if 314 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: let's say this hypothetical happens and Joker all of a 315 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: sudden has multiple rings and four MVPs and has kind 316 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: of elbowed his way in there, because it's not gonna 317 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: be as simple as okay, we're just dropping dream who. 318 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't have as twelfth, I have 319 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: his tenth. I the list I gave you guys was 320 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: the order of my one through twelve. But is Joker 321 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 1: better than Shack? I's it. That's a tough sell. Maybe 322 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: like it's it is. Do we think he's already better 323 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: than Steph? I don't with one more ring? Maybe it's 324 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: the there you're going what's going to become popular? Demons 325 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: in ten years are all time top tens that do 326 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: not include Kobe or Bird, and that is hard for 327 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: me to wrap my mind around. But I've got Kobe eight, 328 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: Bird nine, and that's with them ahead of Steph Shack Joker. 329 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: I know some people disagree with it, so it's just that's. 330 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: That's the most complete NBA players ever seen. Like, I 331 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: think he has everything. 332 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: I do think he's probably gonna sneaking that top ten 333 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: by the end of everything. 334 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: Well, he is, unequivocally, I don't know if I should 335 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: say it's one of the greatest. He's one of the greatest, 336 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: probably five or six offensive players ever. I struggle a 337 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: bit with the defensive Yeah, well, yea, he gets the 338 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: no again. And I don't think he's like some massive 339 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: liability defensively. It's not the but. 340 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: There's some holes on that side now. 341 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: So so Duncan might be the greatest defensive player well 342 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: dream post Russell. Duncan's one of the two greatest defensive 343 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: players post Russell. And to me, Duncan's offense is better 344 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: than Joker's defense obviously, and but offense is worth more 345 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: than defense. It's tricky. It's tricky. I'm not again, I'm 346 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: not here to say that's an outrageous take like Joker 347 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: has earned it. It is also the other thing, just 348 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: real quick that Bill Bill, when he was talking about 349 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: Giannis mentioned the fact that Yannis has only won eight 350 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: playoff series, which was crazy, like to think about like that. 351 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: He did a Buil did a really good thing where 352 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: he's talking about the you know, all time playoff series 353 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: one and bron has forty one, Duncan has like thirty five, 354 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: Kobe I think thirty two. Again, this is Bill's thing, 355 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: not mine, but from listening to it, Jordan had I 356 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: think like thirty one and he mentioned now Giannis has 357 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: eight and I was like, wow, like he won four 358 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: of the year they won the titles exactly. Joker has ten. 359 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: So when we are again this this assumes he actually 360 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: gets to fourteen because he wins four more. I have 361 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: a little allergy too, saying a guy who's been passed 362 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: round two twice ever and now it would be three 363 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: times if they win the title. Is you know we're 364 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna bump him ahead of Kobe Bryant, who went to 365 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: seven NBA finals. Like so that that part of it 366 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: just is just reflexively it feels at I mean Duncan 367 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: went to six finals. I don't even know the conference 368 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: finals off the top of my head that that part feels. 369 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: Littre wrong. 370 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it maybe it's not, and so I the 371 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: I I do think though for Joker, he has reached 372 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: the ceiling he can get to as far as where 373 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: he's ranked apps in another title right like wherever he 374 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: is right now, he winning. He has maxed out how 375 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: high you can climb based on individual accolades, like he 376 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: is as high as a one ring player can be. 377 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: And people can say that's reductive or that's silly, that 378 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: it's not. It's totally fair. In the it's just totally fair. 379 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: And the guys are telling me Bill said he'd be 380 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: there with Bird and Magic. I think Bill has Magic 381 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: rated lower than I do. I think Bill has, Like 382 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: to me, Magic is in a slight tier above Bird, 383 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: and I think that Bill has Bird and Magic in 384 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: the same tier. But that okay. 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Those are both of your 404 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: guys that are in the MVP race. We're sponsored by 405 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: hard Rock, so they've created this marker for you. They've 406 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: got Baker Mahomes or Baker with MVP at minus one 407 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: fifty or you could bet the field at plus one 408 00:28:59,240 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: oh five. 409 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: So here's so shout out to hard Rock on this 410 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: not just making this and this market is currently available 411 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: in Florida, by the way, for making this an either 412 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: or side meaning I don't love when it's just when 413 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: it's one way markets, because then you can't tell what 414 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: the fair price is. Does that make like if it's 415 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: just a yes bet or just a no bet, you can't. 416 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: You can't get a feel for what the fair price 417 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: is when it's a two way market. Minus one fifty 418 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: and plus one oh five. There's obviously some juice in 419 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: there because they're not the same number, but those aren't. 420 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: It's not minus one fifty and for either or and 421 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: then minus one fifty for no. And I've got to 422 00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: tell you, I think Baker or Patrick to be able 423 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: to get either one of them to win MVP at 424 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: only minus one point fifty is a pretty solid bet. Now, 425 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: full disclosure, I won't be making it because I already 426 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: have this bet covered. I have Baker in the preseason 427 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: at thirty five to one on hard Rock, and I 428 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: have every year. It's like an annuity. Every year I 429 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: bet Patrick to win MVP, and then every three years 430 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: or so it pays, so so I already have them. 431 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: I have these bets covered. But if you guys remember 432 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: our preseason gambling show, I said I thought Tampa was 433 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: going to be the one seed. And if Tampa's the 434 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: one seed. Baker's got a real shot at MVP. I 435 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: didn't expect it to be this type of you know, 436 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: insanely hot start. The reason I like the Baker or 437 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: Patrick piece of it demons is so many of the 438 00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: preseason favorites are just out. So obviously Joe Burrow out. Literally, 439 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: I think Lamar's out like the You agree, Okay, I 440 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: mean I think missing missing two games doesn't knock you out, 441 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: but I just think being one in five, like, look, 442 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: they would have to go they would have to go 443 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: ten and one the rest of the way for Lamart, right, Okay, 444 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: So then you look at the other teams that could 445 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: have great records, right, Daniel Jones is not gonna win 446 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: League MVP, especially because a lot of people think Jonathan 447 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: Taylor's been the best player on that team. Dan Jones 448 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: been excellent. But it's just to me, Daniel Jones is 449 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: not gonna be League MVP. But they right now are 450 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: the one seed, right Rogers team only has one loss, 451 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the numbers, and I don't think it's 452 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: going to so he's not gonna win League MVP. I 453 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: you go to you know, Herbert was a trendy pick. 454 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: They fell off some. Josh Allen is still obviously a 455 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: viable candidate, but he's had some hiccups the last few weeks. Right, 456 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: you go to the NFC, Jaden's team isn't that good 457 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: record wise, So he is, and his number has been fine, 458 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: but he's also miss time, he's gotten uphill battle goff. 459 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: I just I don't see it. Maybe I'm like and 460 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: also the team's records fine, but you might be like Nick, 461 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are three and three. No, I understand that, 462 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: but I also feel like Patrick somehow like has a 463 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: narrative momentum going for him with getting Rashiba back. So 464 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: right now, to me, Patrick and Baker, their real competition 465 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: would and I don't think Jordan Loves had some crazy year. 466 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: The real competition demons is Josh and Stafford. 467 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: And if they start winning games. 468 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: No, no chance, no nuts, no no, no. I mean, Dak's 469 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: not gonna have a better year than Burrow did last year, 470 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys aren't gonna do better than nine wins 471 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: like Burrow didn't. Burrow didn't have a real shot at it. 472 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Stafford is viable, right, but Puoka being banged up hurts 473 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: his chances. Yeah, so I do think Bake you're getting basically, 474 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: you get Baker or Patrick at minus one fifty. I 475 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: think that's legit. And if you think Baker's gonna fall 476 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: off and the Chiefs aren't gonna have a good enough record, 477 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: you can just take the other side of it at 478 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: plus money. So that's I think that's a sick bet 479 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: by our friends at hard Rock