1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Sexton podcast Network. Welcome to the podcast. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm Tutor Dixon and I'm so glad you're joining me today. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Today, I have a very fun guest. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: I met him a few years back at Sea Pac 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 2: and I'm really excited to have him on. 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: David Marcus. 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: He's like, if you follow David on Twitter, you get 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: a really very real person and that's the thing that 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: I love about him. You probably are noticing that he's 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: also next to me smoking, so you get the full 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: real version David Marcus. And honestly, he is one of 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: my favorite people to follow on Twitter because everything that 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: is real that happens in life, he just shares with you, 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: and I think that's so rare to have somebody who's 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: willing to do that. He's insightful, sometimes sarcastic. He has 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: all of the information on politics. You can read his 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: latest columns on Fox, Daily Mail, Daily Wire. He's also 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: the author of Charade, The Covid Lies That Crushed a 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: Nation And I am extremely excited to get into all 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: of this. Just before that, I want to really quickly 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: tell you about a new product that I've been using. 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: It's an air purifier. 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We just were talking about Gosh, 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: you don't even know who you're talking about these days 59 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: when you say, well, the president, because it could be 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: a former president, it could be the current president. And 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: there is just a massive amount going on. But in 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: the midst of this, something kind of interesting has happened 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: on Fox News where Sean Hannity was talking to Gavin Newsom, 64 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: and he said, would you debate Rond de Santis? He 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: said yes, Then he got Rond de Santis on Ronda 66 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: Santis said yes. So now it looks like there's going 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: to be a debate between Ron de Santis and Gavin Newsom. 68 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: What's your take on that. 69 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: I think that this is a wise move for Ron 70 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: de Santis, who clearly his campaign has been in a 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: lot of trouble since his launch, even before his launch. Really, 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 3: I think the whole soft launch that he did sort 73 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: of starting in February and well, we haven't announced yet, 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: but I am doing a book tour and I'm in Iowa, 75 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: New Hampshire all the time. Nobody bought that, and I 76 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: think it was a little confusing to voters. Then he 77 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: did his announcement on Twitter, which I think voters also 78 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: found a little confusing. This is a way for him 79 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: to get himself out in front of people in a 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 3: venue where I think he's really good, Like I think 81 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: DeSantis is often at his best when he's parrying the left, 82 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: So I think this is a wise move for DeSantis. 83 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: I guess it could be viewed as a bit of 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: a hail Mary, but look, when you're down thirty points 85 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: even at halftime. You know, every once in a while 86 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: you need a hail Mary. 87 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: Right, that's right. I mean, but we are still pretty 88 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: far out. I think that's what people are forgetting. Has 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: politics completely taken over our lives? That here we are 90 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: the summer before, and I mean the summer two summers before, 91 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: not next summer, We're still this is still the beginning 92 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: of August. We're looking at a year and three months 93 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: before we actually have a general election. Are we getting 94 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: to the point where politics has taken over our lives 95 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: when we're like, Okay, is Ron DeSantis done now a 96 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: month into his campaign? 97 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I mean I think I think we are. 98 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: And I think part of that has to do with 99 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: the fact that, you know, as you mentioned, with both 100 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: the current and the former president, there is this NonStop 101 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: barrage of scandals and indictments. You know, I said on 102 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: Twitter last night, I said, you know, Andy Warhol's famous 103 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: quote was in the future, everyone will be famous for 104 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes. I think that's now, in the future, everyone 105 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 3: will be indicted for fifteen minutes. You know. This is 106 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: just sort of where where we are, and so yeah, 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: it keeps politics front and center I mean, so does 108 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: like the bud light stuff, so does the culture war stuff. 109 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I go shopping and I'm apparently supposed 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: to like have a checklist of like what company supports what. 111 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: It gets a little exhausting, but it is where we are. 112 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: I know, I said something to my daughter the other 113 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: day about well, we're not going to buy that right now, 114 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: and she goes, Mom, is this a woke thing? Are 115 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: you not buying this? Because I'm like, oh, no. You know, 116 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: at this point, I don't want them to think I 117 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: have to double I have to think twice about everything 118 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 2: I do. I mean, I do want them to be thinkers, 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: but I don't want them to be stressed as children. 120 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: And I think that's where we've gotten a little confused 121 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: as society. We're putting a lot on kids right now, 122 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: and we didn't have that stuff on us when we 123 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: were kids. 124 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: No, I don't think we did all though, you know, 125 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: we might be able to use that to our advantage. Tutor. 126 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, if my son wants like some 127 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: you know, three hundred dollars like piece of equipment or something, 128 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: I can just sorry ESG that this company's camp because 129 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 3: my thirteen year old son is very based, right, so 130 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: it might even work with them, but it's like they 131 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: have a very high ESG score. You don't want. 132 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: That that is hilarious, So you share a lot about 133 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: your son. I think it's very interesting that you left 134 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: New York. You're a lifelong new Yorker, but you left 135 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: New York and you left because you saw a lot 136 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: of this stuff that you didn't like. But explain to 137 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: people from your perspective, because I think a lot of 138 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: people across the country hear about New York. Not that 139 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: not that many people get to experience it, but New 140 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: York is a culture in and of itself, and I 141 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: think that lifelong new Yorkers. It's really hard to get 142 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: lifelong New Yorkers out of New York. But now we've 143 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: suddenly seen people leaving and you went to West Virginia. 144 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: If I'm right, you're right, it's a big change. 145 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: Well bet, yeah, No, So I was on a life 146 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: long New Yorker. I was born and raised in Philly, 147 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: but I did live the last twenty years in New York, 148 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: and I love New York. It was the only place 149 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: I ever wanted to be. Before I was a journalist, 150 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: I was in theater and I spent fifteen years doing 151 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: that there. That was just magical. I mean, there's just 152 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: no other word for it. Like you say, there's experiences 153 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: that you can have in New York, there's things you 154 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: can do in New York. It's just like no place 155 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: else in the world. And I loved it. But yeah, 156 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: it's you know, it wasn't a great situation for my 157 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: kid right now. And I often put it this way. 158 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: So my son turned thirteen, and if he was born 159 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: in twenty ten, and if you had said to me 160 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: in twenty ten, when your kid's thirteen, him and three 161 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: of his buddies are going to take the subway in 162 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: the afternoon from Brooklyn to Manhats and they're going to 163 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: go to the movies that you know, they're gonna walk 164 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: around Central Park w Background eight thirty nine at night. 165 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: I would have thought, of course, that's fun. There's no 166 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: chance I'd let my thirteen year old son do that today. 167 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: No chance. And so that really was more than anything else. 168 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: What you know, led to the move was that that 169 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: and the schools. I mean, I swear to God, every 170 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: day was BLM day or Pride Day. I mean every 171 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: day tutor every day. It was humble, it was in 172 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: a skin. 173 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: I thought maybe it was like some Hallmark movie story 174 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: where you chased a woman out to the country, but 175 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: it was really for your child. 176 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, no, I would be the No, I'm the 177 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: bad guy in the Hallmark Christmas story. I'm the one 178 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: who like gets left because like too, he's too interested 179 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: in politics. I just want to sit by the fire 180 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: and sip coco or something. 181 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you are very interested in politics. So you 182 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: just started. You just put out a story on Devin Cher. 183 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: So tell us were thoughts on Devon Archer's testimony and 184 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: what's going on there, because I mean, the world has 185 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: got to be looking at this. The rest of the 186 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: world has got to be looking at this and going, 187 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 2: come on, are you guys really you're really going to 188 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: ignore this one? 189 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know it. It was a challenging 190 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: column to write, in part because there's so much evidence 191 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: that Devin Archer gave that's damning to the Bidens that 192 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: you really need to just sort of like get on 193 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: one train to explain to people here's where the corruption 194 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: is and it's right there. Because democrats are this is incredible. 195 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: Democrats now admit freely that Hunter Biden was selling the 196 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: illusion of influence over his dad. This isn't in dispute anymore. 197 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: But his dad didn't do anything. He just talked about 198 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: the weather. 199 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: Well, okay, right, but we've already moved the goalpost to a. 200 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Place, right, No, that's what I mean. 201 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 2: Now they're like, okay, but it's okay because Joe's fine. 202 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, now listen, Joe Biden's not some moron who fell 203 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: off the pineapple truck yesterday. Joe Biden is perfectly aware 204 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: that if he gets on the phone with executives from 205 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: Barisma with his son, it says, hey, how you guys doing. 206 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: It's really nice to talk to you guys. He knows. 207 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: It's like it's like if you owe a loan shark 208 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars and you're sitting with the loan shark 209 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: and the loan shark gets a mob enforcer on the 210 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: phone to say hi to you. You know what high means. 211 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: I mean, this is right. You know that this is 212 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: not like, you know, the weather's very nice, thanks for asking, Like, 213 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: that's not what's going on here. And clearly the people 214 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: at Barismo, this Ukrainian guess concern they were under the 215 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: impression that they had bribed Joe Biden, and they got 216 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: exactly what they wanted from Joe Biden. It's incredible. 217 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 218 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon podcast. You add the phone calls, you 219 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: add the Devin Archer information up with the video of 220 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: Joe Biden saying I said, you got to fire the guy, 221 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: and you have it all. I mean, it's nice in 222 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: a nice little package. But why is it so hard 223 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: to get people to actually look at this and say 224 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: this guy shouldn't be president right now? And I honestly, 225 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: I have kind of a different opinion of impeachment here. 226 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: I believe that this has to come out, It has 227 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: to be publicly out there, and the Republicans should be 228 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: posting this everywhere, putting ads out, making sure people know 229 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: the truth about this, and let people vote him out 230 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: of office. 231 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: I think he should be done. 232 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 3: No, I agree. I also have some mixed feelings about 233 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: the potential impeachment of Joe Biden. But I will say, 234 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: you know I did yesterday I ran a column at 235 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: Human Events where I did call for the expungement of 236 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,479 Speaker 3: President Trump's first impeachment. I think this is an absolute 237 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: no brainer. And you know, I've spoken to some people 238 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: on the Hill who feel like this makes sense and. 239 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: Can that be done? 240 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean what does it mean? I 241 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: don't know, but you know, Congress, what does. 242 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: It mean to be impeached and then stay in office? Anyway? 243 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: Yes? Right? So, I mean yes, So, I mean if 244 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: Kevin McCarthy, if Congressional Republicans, you know, put out a 245 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: resolution that says we're revoking or expunging or reversing the impeachment. Yes, 246 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: impeachment is whatever Congress decides it is. So of course 247 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: it can be done. And the reason that it should 248 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 3: be done is that there was one fundamental predicate that 249 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: that entire impeachment was hinged on, and that was that 250 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: there was no legitimate reason for Joe Biden to ask 251 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: or pressure Ukrainian President Zelensky to look into Parisma. This 252 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: could only have been about his own personal political gain. 253 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: That's not a tenable position anyway. I mean, it's just 254 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 3: not I mean, this is so shady. It's so clear 255 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: that Barisma believes it had bribed the sitting president of 256 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: sitting vice president of the United States, that Donald Trump 257 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: had every reason to ask Selenski to do that well. 258 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: And going back to the phone calls, when you talk 259 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: about you know, it doesn't matter what Joe Biden says 260 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: if he took this phone call. The argument is, hey, 261 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: he was just taking a phone call from his son. 262 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 2: But I say, okay, that happens to you once as 263 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: vice president, where you're like, hey, dad, you're on speaker 264 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: phone with my buddies over here in Ukraine, and then 265 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: the dad calls you afterward and says, you don't never 266 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: put me in that position again. 267 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: If that's not where you want to be. 268 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: Of course, there's no separation of church and state here, 269 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: so where Now we're expected to believe that Joe Biden 270 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: had no idea that his son was using these phone 271 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: calls and business dinners to suggest the illusion of access right. 272 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: We're supposed to believe that Joe Biden had no idea 273 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: that Hunter was texting Chinese executive saying I'm sitting here 274 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: with my dad and you better give me what I want. 275 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: We're supposed to believe that Joe Biden had no idea 276 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: that there were a dozen shell companies set up to 277 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: take in foreign funds from all over the place and 278 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: distribute them to nine members of his own family. Come on, man, 279 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: as Joe Biden. 280 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: Might say, so, but how dangerous is this when you 281 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: look at Okay, so, when this all had, when this 282 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: impeachment all went down with Donald Trump, and we talked 283 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: about Yankovich or whatever her name was over there and 284 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: this was all so unfair and how she got pulled back, 285 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: and there was a massive amount of conversation at that 286 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: time about well, to be honest, the Ukraine is one 287 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: of the most corrupt trees in the world, and there 288 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: is a massive amount of corruption there. So we do 289 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: have to be aware that this is going on. And 290 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: Joe was actually trying to clean that up. You know, 291 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: of course, the Obama administration was cleaning up corruption and 292 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: that was going. 293 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: To be good. 294 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: But knowing this, knowing this now what we know, knowing 295 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: the precarious position we are in with China and Taiwan, 296 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: and knowing that we are taking our reserves and sending 297 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: them to Ukraine monetarily and now munitions sending over to Ukraine, 298 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: does this not present a major concern that there is 299 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: some sort of compromise there that Joe Biden feels like 300 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: he has to be putting billions into Ukraine right now, 301 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: when really we do have a concern over Taiwan. 302 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: Listen, it's a perfectly legitimate question. You know, I've I'm 303 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: personally fairly hawkish on the Ukraine situation just because you know, 304 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm a gen X kid who you know, grew up 305 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: watching Rocky for and I'm not a big fan of Russia. 306 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: Basically what it kind of like boils down to. But no, So, 307 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: I mean, this is the problem, tootor right? Is that, 308 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: like we don't know? Yeah, do I have any way 309 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: of knowing if Vladimir Zelensky like has something on Joe Biden? 310 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: And that's why we're sending all these No, Like, I don't, 311 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: But I do know that there's an enormous amount of 312 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: smoke here, that there's a there's an you know, there's 313 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: an enormous problem in the influence that his son was 314 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: pedaling in Ukraine. So no, it's a perfectly reasonable question, 315 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: and obviously one that Joe Biden refuses to answer or 316 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: even address. 317 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: So what happens next? 318 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: Can they say Joe's not going to run if this 319 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: gets to the point where it looks too ugly? Can 320 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: they say that and then based on your experience or 321 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: your knowledge of the behind. 322 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: The scenes, who do you think they put out there. 323 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 3: I think it's tough to do. Look, there's there's one 324 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: of two ways that this happens. Either if it happens, 325 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: and I think it's maybe fit fifty to fifty. My 326 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 3: expectation is that Joe Biden's running for president. But if 327 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 3: he's not there, if they're if a switcheroo is going 328 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: to occur, right, happens one of two ways, either with 329 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: Joe Biden's approval or without it. With Joe Biden's approval, 330 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: this looks like a medical scare combined with you know, 331 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 3: I haven't seen my seventh granddaughter ever and I'd like 332 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: to go spend some time with her something like that, 333 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: And it's very like, Wow, this is what I was 334 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: here to do. I'm the bridge to the next generation. 335 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 3: If Biden has to get dragged out, then that's going 336 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 3: to look like the New York Times and the Washington 337 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: Post turning on him and other significant leaders with the 338 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: Democrat Party doing that as well. It's hard for me 339 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: to see. I mean, listen, obviously, Gavin Newsom is sitting 340 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: here being like I think I beat this guy right now, 341 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 3: and he probably does, so I don't know what's keeping 342 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 3: Newsom out of the race. And as you as you 343 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: know now Newsome's debating DeSantis so very weird. 344 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 2: It's like you've got the two second tier guys who 345 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: are saying, there's a really good chance Donald Trump gets 346 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: has something that takes him out of this race. There's 347 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: a really good chance that Joe Biden has something that 348 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: takes him out of this race. So I get Gavin 349 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: Newsom doing this. I mean, I do think that it 350 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: puts him in a precarious position because this gives ron 351 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: De Santis a real opportunity to say, look at California, 352 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: but it's a mess in California. The taxes, the cost 353 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: of living, the poop on the streets, the migrants coming in. 354 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a mess in California. So it gives 355 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 2: him that opportunity. But I will say Gavin Newsom is slick. 356 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: It gives him the opportunity to destroy Rond de Santis 357 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: if he wants to. And they are really good with 358 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: words and how they word things. I mean, he's already 359 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: said that this guy should be he's going after DeSantis. 360 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 2: He should be in jail for kidnapping. He should be 361 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: this and that so does this? Is this an opportunity 362 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: for Gavin Newsom too, if the front runner is out 363 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: take out the second guy right away. 364 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's a risk. I hadn't actually thought 365 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: about this until you just said it. But you make 366 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: a really good point, which is that Gavin Newson is 367 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: obviously going to call DeSantis a racist because of the 368 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: Florida curriculum and a homophobe because of don't say gay right, 369 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: which was a bag of nonsense. Right, this is what 370 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 3: he's going to do. I think DeSantis can very effectively 371 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: parry that. I also think that the Trump campaign is 372 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 3: very likely to pile on a little bit as we 373 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: saw Bira Donalds do with the curriculum stuff in Florida. 374 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: You know, Tim Scott might do it like DeSantis has 375 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: to watch out, man. The knives are out on every side. 376 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 3: Like everyone's expected Chris Christy at this upcoming debate to 377 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 3: like go hard after Donald Trump. I'm fully expecting Chris 378 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 3: Christy to shoot most of his fire at Rohn DeSantis 379 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: the same way that he destroyed Marco Rubio in New 380 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: Hampshire in twenty sixteen. Has he destroyed Chris Christy ended 381 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio's campaign with that Robot Rubio line. That was it. 382 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: I watched it happen live. 383 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: That was it. 384 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: It will definitely be interesting. I don't think that Donald 385 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: Trump goes to that debate. Everybody is questioning that. I 386 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: think that right now, the worst thing he can do 387 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 2: is go out there and have Brett Barrett just go 388 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: after him on this indictment and this indictment, this indictment 389 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: in him having to respond. I think that he doesn't 390 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: go and I think that is the time when someone 391 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: arises from that debate as the clear winner. And I 392 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: think it could be someone that we are totally not expecting. 393 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: And I don't actually think Chris Christy is in this 394 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: race to become that person. Is in that race to 395 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: lift someone and we're not one hundred percent sure who 396 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: it is. 397 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 3: I agree now, I will say yesterday, for the first 398 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: time I started thinking that there's a chance that Trump 399 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: might change his mind to do this debate. There was 400 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: reporting that he was he had dinner, I believe, at 401 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: Bedminster with executive, very important executives from Fox News who 402 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: clearly want him to be there. I you know, I 403 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 3: think Trump always wants the stage right, like he wants 404 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: to be in the center of the stage. And I 405 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 3: do think that there is a I do think there's 406 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: that fear right. I don't know if this is who 407 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: you were referring to, but clearly Vivic Ramaswami is the 408 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 3: person who's got the mojo right now. This notion that 409 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: he's tied with DeSantis is absurd. That's just not true. 410 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: There is some good national polling for him, so he's 411 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: somebody who might be able to have this kind of 412 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: breakout moment. I think there's probably some thoughts in the 413 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: back of Trump's mind that are like, I better not 414 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: let that happen, so we'll see. 415 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 2: I think that it's if it were up to him alone. 416 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: I suspect he would do it because I think he 417 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: can't stand the thought of not being there. 418 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: He loves he loves the fight, he loves the showmanship. 419 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: It's always up to him alone. 420 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: It's a very good point, that's true. 421 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: I would assume there are some people trying to bar 422 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: the door, but I think that's probably happened quite a bit. 423 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: Nobody tells him what to do, and that's part of 424 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 3: the charm. I mean that is, that is part of 425 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 3: what Americans find so appealing about him, and I do 426 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 3: think it's it's it's part of why the DeSantis campaign 427 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 3: has stuttered a little bit, and I think they're trying 428 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: to write the ship, but DeSantis hasn't seemed in charge 429 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: of it, Like he doesn't you know, it feels like 430 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: this weird team of influencers have been first center in 431 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: a way that hasn't been healthy for the campaign. 432 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 433 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. If you're watching the Twitter influencers, man, 434 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: it is a bloodbath and they're doing things that look 435 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: like they're coming from the campaign, or maybe they are 436 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: coming from the campaign, that are hurting him. I think 437 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: that what you said, like the idea of charm, I 438 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: mean Donald Trump charms people. I think that people, especially 439 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: the consultant world, was like, Oh, DeSantis is Trump light. 440 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: He's going to come out and he's going to be 441 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: able to be the person that can do the things 442 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: without the nasty comments. But the problem is that that's 443 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: the charm, is that he can win people over with 444 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: these off color remarks and you're like, how did he 445 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: just get away with that and. 446 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: Then he laughs. 447 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: You know, he thinks it's funny and people laugh with him. 448 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: That's missing in the Dysanta's campaign. So they really needed 449 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: to create a different lane for him and have said, Okay, Stan, 450 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: just walk down the same lane as Trump. He needed 451 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 2: his own lane and that's been a problem. But I 452 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: want you mentioned charm. I honestly think that the way 453 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: you talk on Twitter is very charming because I think 454 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to get to this. You are very real. 455 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: You've shared a lot of your personal struggle. That's not 456 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 2: an easy thing to do on Twitter, and you survive it. 457 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: I mean in a really amazingly positive way. What makes 458 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: it so that you do Why do you do that? 459 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 3: That's very kind of you to say. I mean, look, 460 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: I think the reason that I do it is because, 461 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: first and foremost, I was going to say, first and foremost, 462 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: I'm a writer. I mean, first and foremost, I still 463 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: consider myself an artist. I mean I spent two decades 464 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 3: making theater as an actor and as a playwright, and 465 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: as a director and as a producer, you know, just 466 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: getting people into a room to try to tell them 467 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: a story. And ultimately I'm a storyteller. It doesn't matter 468 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 3: who I think would make a good president or a 469 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: bad president, or any of those things. It took me 470 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 3: a while as a columnist to learn that, because you know, 471 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: once you're running at you know, the Federalist or the 472 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: New York Times, you say, oh, well, I must be 473 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: very important, and everyone cares what I think. That's not 474 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: what it is. It's really about getting out into the country, 475 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 3: talking to people, hearing what real people think, and then 476 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: trying to tell those stories. And I don't know. I mean, 477 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: my stories are part of that, and my stories involved 478 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 3: a lot of struggle. They also involve a lot of 479 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: you know, success and fantastic times in the backyard with 480 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: my kid and friends and stuff. And I don't know, 481 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 3: that's it. I like telling stories. 482 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 2: I think it's unique because you talk about addiction, and 483 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: you talk about struggles with addiction. It's something that we 484 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: feel like we don't want to talk about. 485 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: You know. 486 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 2: I've had people in my family that struggle with addiction. 487 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, we don't want to we don't want 488 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: people to know this. But those folks that are struggling, 489 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: they feel really alone. If there's not someone out there saying, hey, 490 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: I tripped up again. I need help. You've been willing 491 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: to go out there and say that that's big to me. 492 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's you know, it's not none of 493 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: that that's anything that I'm particularly proud of. And you know, 494 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: I wish that I had a better success story, you know, 495 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 3: to share with. I wish that I was a better 496 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: role model in a lot of these ways. I mean, 497 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: you know, I've been to rehab a couple of times. 498 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: My life is much better. I'm not completely sober, but 499 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 3: I'm not the lunatic that I have been at certain points. 500 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: But you know, it is hard. Like I grew up 501 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: in an Irish Catholic family when I you know, my 502 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 3: uncles would be passed out at two thirty on a 503 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon, and my great grandpa, you know, Papaud just 504 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: be like, ah, well he's tired from work. You know, 505 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: just you know, you just didn't talk about it. It 506 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: wasn't a thing. So look, it's a big thing in jerjournalism. 507 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: It's obviously a big thing in the arts. It's big 508 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: you know, in the circles that I've run in. This 509 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: is something that a lot of people deal with, and yeah, 510 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: I just want to be honest about it. 511 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: I think it is amazing to me because I think 512 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 2: most people are afraid to come out and say this 513 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: because oh gosh, you know, what if I get fired? 514 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: What if people are you know, don't want to spend 515 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: time around me. And I honestly, every time I read 516 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: a post where you share something so personal, it just 517 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: makes it like I feel like my heart wraps around 518 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: you in a different way, and I'm like, this is 519 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: so amazing that this man is willing to do that. 520 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: So for me knowing people that have struggled with similar issues, 521 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: but also just the stresses. I mean, I have a 522 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: fourteen year old daughter and I watch you with your 523 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: son and I'm like, he's just very open about what's real. 524 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: And I think it's a different place because when you 525 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: come from the political world, everything has to be so careful, 526 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: and I'm not good at careful. Like my I'm sure 527 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: my political team would tell you that, like, Okay, tutor, 528 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: it's just going to be tutor and. 529 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: Say it how it is. 530 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: But I just think that that makes people feel like, Okay, 531 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: you actually get it. You want to be around me, 532 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: you want to you want to help me, you want 533 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: to serve me. 534 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I think one advantage that I 535 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: have coming out of having spent so much time in 536 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: theater is that I never accidentally cross any lines that 537 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 3: could get me canceled because I am so absolutely fluent 538 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: in wokeness or what we used to call political correctness. 539 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: I mean, I was in so many rehearsal rooms where like, 540 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: I had to choose my words so carefully because I 541 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: knew that the wrong word would elicit a response that 542 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't help the process, right, that wouldn't help make the 543 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: play better. So I had to figure out, like, how 544 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: do I say this that's not going to turn this 545 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: rehearsal into a political debate, you know, and not every 546 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: conservative pundit or politician has that, And I think it's 547 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: very easy to fall into like just sort of saying 548 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: the wrong thing. You don't even know it's the wrong thing, 549 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 3: Like how would you the rules change every ten minutes. Yeah, 550 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: So you know, that's just that that's a little thing 551 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: that I have in my back pocket from the very 552 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: very progressive New York theater. Well, I like to say, 553 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: the New York theater world makes Hollywood look like the 554 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 3: National reviews. You can't even imagine. 555 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: Well, I would honestly urge everyone to follow you because 556 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: I think that we can all learn a lot from 557 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: your openness and your willingness to share. It means a 558 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: lot to me. I love seeing when you post. You're 559 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: one of my favorite people to follow on Twitter because 560 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: I think it is just it's not ugly. You tell 561 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: it how it is. You're not fighting people either. I 562 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 2: mean every so often you will shoot back at someone, 563 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: but I and it's such a I guess it's because 564 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: you've learned that it's in such a way that it's 565 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: not like you look at it and you go, gosh, 566 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: that was a real jerk thing to say. 567 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: You're like, oh wow, yeah, I do feel now. 568 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: I feel it sometimes. I think we all everyone who 569 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: uses social media and you start to feel this like 570 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: tightening in your chest and it's like, I'm going to 571 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: tell this personally. Yeah, And I learned at a certain 572 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: point I was just like, you got to let that go, man, 573 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: Like that never makes you look good, nothing good comes 574 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: of it. Just let that go and have some fun. 575 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: And if somebody insults you, say, well, you know it's 576 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: your opinion. I do a little meme from The Big 577 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: Lebowski or something you know it's gotta be fun. 578 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that we connected in whatever year it 579 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: was that we were at Teapac together, and I am 580 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: so thankful to you for coming on today. I really 581 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: do hope that people read your stuff follow you. But 582 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: you're just really such an inspiration to me. David Marcus, 583 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: thank you for being here today. 584 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: And if I can just throw the love back a 585 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: little bit, your run for governor was very, very inspiring 586 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: to somebody who suffered an awful lot in New York 587 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: under COVID. I thought what you did was incredibly courageous 588 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: and you know much respect well. 589 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: Thank you. 590 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: And I think that one of the things that we learned, 591 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: and that is that there are people and this is 592 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: something that I think that people are looking for in 593 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: someone that wants to serve them. There are people across 594 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: the country, and for us it was across the state 595 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: that are all dealing with something and it's all different. 596 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: And that's what you have to keep in mind that 597 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: when you think that one topic is so hot for 598 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: you and that you've got to just hit on this 599 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: that topic in half the state, they don't care about 600 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: it at all, But you better learn what they do 601 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: care about. And that's what I think right now you're 602 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: able to highlight where you are, is that when people 603 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: are seeing what the country is really hurting and maybe 604 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: we're not. 605 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: People keep saying to me, what are Republicans for? Right now? Well, 606 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: I think that's something we need to figure out. What 607 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: are we for? 608 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 609 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: Thank you so much again, David Marcus. Check him out. 610 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: And before I let you all go, I want to 611 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: first tell you a little bit more about consumer tax advocate. Look, 612 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 2: did the tough thing during COVID. 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