WEBVTT - 19 Pivotal People: Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>promo code verbal Welcome to the Solid Verbal coll that

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<v Speaker 1>Is that woo woom and them and tie. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the solid Veribal boys and girls. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Ty Hildebrandt, joining me as always over there in beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>F in City.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great, Tye, and I have a proposal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes please.

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<v Speaker 2>I would argue that podcasting is one of the more

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<v Speaker 2>intimate personal forms of media.

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<v Speaker 1>We are literally in people's ears right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's true. What if we just for today, because

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<v Speaker 2>we're jumping all over the country, we're hitting a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things that are going to hit a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people's interests, whether we're talking about you know, we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>this back half of the nineteen most pivotal names of

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty eighteen college football I guess preseason correct. What

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<v Speaker 2>if we went real personal and intimate with it and

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<v Speaker 2>did like a whole ASMR episode? H do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what ASMR is? Now? I don't ASMR. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen the YouTube videos where it's like people just like

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<v Speaker 2>whispering into the mic, like it's a very uncomfortable audio experience,

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<v Speaker 2>where like it's it's supposed to make like the hairs

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<v Speaker 2>on your arm stand.

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<v Speaker 1>Up autonomous sensory meridian response.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like people like pursing their lips together, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like real like and this is the thing now

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling me, this is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, if you're wearing good headphones and I

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<v Speaker 2>promise you were going to get into the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the top nineteen pivotal names, go on YouTube and look

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<v Speaker 2>up ASMR. It's something response I want to say. It's

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<v Speaker 2>sensory that would make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an experience characterized by a static like or tingling

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<v Speaker 1>sensation on the skin now typically begins on the scalp

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<v Speaker 1>and moves down the back of the neck and upper spine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a it's a trep man. It is weird.

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<v Speaker 2>But like if you go on and you put on

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<v Speaker 2>good headphones, you look ASMR on YouTube. It's like the

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<v Speaker 2>sound of scissors, it's the sound of paper, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>sound of just like people making weird sounds themselves, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's real. Like it's supposed to bridge the line, not

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<v Speaker 2>unlike what we're trying to do on this show, right

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<v Speaker 2>right right, I see it between sort of creepy and erotic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there has to be a college football tie in

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<v Speaker 1>here that we can leverage, because this really could be

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<v Speaker 1>a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I would say, if there's anything on a college

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<v Speaker 2>football field that makes the hairs on your arms stand

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<v Speaker 2>up and sends tingles from your scalp down your spine.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we talking about Adam Amin? Here? Is that where

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<v Speaker 1>we're going?

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about our friend Adam Imean WHOA, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>true and just his general presence. So I guess we

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that. I guess because you are not familiar,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to do an ASMR show. But we

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<v Speaker 2>do have a lot of names to discuss and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of updates about merchandising and live shows. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of fun. We have a bunch of shows

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<v Speaker 2>that we're going to be doing the rest of the summer.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got preseason shows, We've got plans TI, we got.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Old, we got a lot going down. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to have this ASMR definition up on the screen

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<v Speaker 1>for the full duration of the episode today. I promise

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<v Speaker 1>my contribution and I'll see what I can work in. Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to see what I can do.

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<v Speaker 2>Did that do anything?

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<v Speaker 1>A noble first attempt by you? Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>The first and last college Football ASMR show.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what we started doing a week ago. Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>What we started doing a week ago is really taking

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<v Speaker 1>a deep dive of what we think is going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen in the twenty eighteen college football season. What are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the storylines going to be that captivate audiences?

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<v Speaker 1>And then kind of as a byproduct of that, who

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be the key names, the key faces

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<v Speaker 1>that are truly pivotal if we do like a post

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<v Speaker 1>mortem of the season and examine all of those storylines

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<v Speaker 1>and how they influence college football. So like a good

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<v Speaker 1>example is last week, right, we talked Chico mcclatcher, the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver for Washington. Well, if things don't go well

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<v Speaker 1>for Washington on offense, Chico could be a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of that reason. Why wow, all right, DeAndre Swift running

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<v Speaker 1>back Georgia. If Georgia offense doesn't go according to the plan, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Dooley new Missouri offensive coordinator, Ricky Ronnie new Penn

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<v Speaker 1>State offensive coordinator. These are guys with a very important

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<v Speaker 1>role to play and a lot hinges on the job

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<v Speaker 1>that they do here in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So what we did is eight of those names

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago. We've got ten more that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get through. This is the nineteen most pivotal. We

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<v Speaker 1>get to number nineteen in the very end. Hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>It's also where tickets will be posted. The link to

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<v Speaker 2>other social platforms. And I will say this, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people in Chicago, in laws, just aunts,

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<v Speaker 2>uncles of in laws, all sorts of people, because obviously

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<v Speaker 2>Jody with an Eye is from Chicago Allentown. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>still a direct flight to Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're going to be toting a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>important people.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So we've got a lot of college football friends

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, so the friends and family list is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be robust. But I would say early and often

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<v Speaker 2>is your best bet in the newsletter of intent is

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<v Speaker 2>the best bet of the best bet.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to jump back in here to again the

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<v Speaker 1>topic we kicked off a week ago, the nineteen most

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<v Speaker 1>pivotal people in the twenty eighteen college football season. As

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<v Speaker 1>we alluded at the end of the last episode, the

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<v Speaker 1>subtitle for this episode is Protecting Patterson. Yes, protecting Patterson.

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<v Speaker 1>So now as you know, Shae Patterson has garnered I

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<v Speaker 1>think a disproportionate amount of the news here in the

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<v Speaker 1>college football offseason. Shape Patterson transferring from ole Miss to

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan one an NCAA ruleing that makes him eligible, immediately

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<v Speaker 1>claims he was misled by Old Miss about how severe

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<v Speaker 1>those sanctions were going to be down there at Oxford.

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<v Speaker 1>By virtue of that, he gets to play right away

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<v Speaker 1>now for Jim Harbaugh. Correct, pretty big deal for Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>they've been wanting, needing that quarterback, hopefully to take their

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<v Speaker 1>offense to the next level. So it goes without saying

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<v Speaker 1>that Shape Patterson is clearly an influential member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan Wolverines, an influential member of this whole wild college

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<v Speaker 1>football experience that we're going to have in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I would posit a new theory though, that while Shape

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<v Speaker 1>Patterson is clearly very pivotal in his own right, the

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan offensive line maybe the most pivotal position group of

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<v Speaker 1>that Michigan Wolverine squad in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Dip me into that knowledge bucket.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk a little bit about Michigan's offensive line, Dan. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they gave up the second most sacks in the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Ten all last season. Hm, They've got to replace Mason Cole,

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<v Speaker 1>who was their best pass blocker from a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>They also need to protect Shape Patterson. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can make a really good case that Shape Patterson

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<v Speaker 1>isn't much without an improved offensive line at Michigan, And

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<v Speaker 1>clearly it does start in the trenches up there in

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<v Speaker 1>Anne Arbord. Despite all the attention that Shape Patterson is

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<v Speaker 1>getting I think protecting Patterson is really going to be

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<v Speaker 1>what it really comes down to for that Michigan offense

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<v Speaker 1>this season. So I am putting my pivotal chip on

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<v Speaker 1>the Michigan offensive line and not as much on shape Patterson.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's reasonable. They've recruited fairly well along the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line, as you would expect to give. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know Jim Harbaugh's history at Stanford in the NFL with

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<v Speaker 2>his teams developing a lot of top offensive line talent,

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<v Speaker 2>but perhaps the execution and the performance isn't where it

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<v Speaker 2>should be given the talent level. The good news is

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<v Speaker 2>that between Notre Dame and Wisconsin, so that would be

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<v Speaker 2>September one and October thirteenth, there's not a terrible amount

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<v Speaker 2>of really top flight defensive line play. Western Michigan, SMU, Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 2>Northwestern Maryland. Wisconsin's gonna be tough, but they replace a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan State's going to be tough with what they returned

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<v Speaker 2>Penn State, with how they've recruited, I anticipate, especially by

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<v Speaker 2>early November, their defensive front should be very good and

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<v Speaker 2>then they have a Rutgers Indiana break before Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 2>So Michigan pretty much has to have at least an

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<v Speaker 2>above average offensive line this year. I am curious about

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<v Speaker 2>how that works in concert with Pep Hamilton and how

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<v Speaker 2>he has even more control it seems. I know, Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>brings in a new offensive line coach who's pretty well

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<v Speaker 2>regarded at Warner. He's been around the Big ten, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody thinks he's a good offensive line coach,

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<v Speaker 2>not a great coordinator. But I think that new blood

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<v Speaker 2>should help to improve things. But when I say, in concert,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the actual offense going to look like? Because schematically,

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan since Jake Rudock, which is so strange to say ty,

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<v Speaker 2>has not been super fun or consistent. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, they ran on some bad teams and put

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<v Speaker 2>up some big numbers, but against decent teams, this Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>offense tends to take a couple of big steps back.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think you're right if this offensive line at

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<v Speaker 2>least looks above average, that is a stride and a

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<v Speaker 2>half forward in the right direction. And given what they

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<v Speaker 2>have on the road, which is Michigan State, Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame, not to mention Northwestern, who should be pretty decent.

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<v Speaker 2>This Michigan team, especially upfront on offense, needs to come

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<v Speaker 2>together rather quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the other point here that is absolutely related

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<v Speaker 1>is one that we brought up a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know if Shape Patterson is all that great?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone talks about him as potentially the missing link for

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Harbaught. You know, he clearly has a ton of talent.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a five star recruit, you know, got hurt, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's coming off a pretty bad injury. But should, if

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<v Speaker 2>he's fully healed, be able to buy himself time even

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<v Speaker 2>if the offensive line isn't up to par. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Shape Patterson has a ceiling of good, just

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<v Speaker 2>not perhaps excellent like we thought when he was coming

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<v Speaker 2>into Oxford. So Michigan can win a bunch of games

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<v Speaker 2>with an average offense, but for that offense to be averaged,

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line needs to be above average, just because

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<v Speaker 2>upfront on defense they are so scary and dangerous. So

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan can win a bunch of seventeen to ten games,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, against good teams, they still need to

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<v Speaker 2>get to seventeen, which has not always been the case.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, where are we going next? We got a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of these to get through.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go too. I'm gonna go out west. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go to J. T. Daniels. Okay, that's my pick. There

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<v Speaker 2>it is, that's number ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he going to be the quarterback for USC? So?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's part of why he is so pivotal.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he will be. He is at he is

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<v Speaker 2>on campus now, summer workouts have begun. He's working out

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<v Speaker 2>with the team. Obviously, if you don't know who, JT.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniels is a well regarded twenty nineteen quarterback who reclassified

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty eighteen, but is the like the clear class

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<v Speaker 2>of what would have been this year's class with him.

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<v Speaker 2>So he shows up to LA, shows up to USC early.

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<v Speaker 2>Is from Orange County. You know USC. Now without Sam Donald,

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<v Speaker 2>they're starting from scratch at quarterback. The coaching staff is

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<v Speaker 2>largely intact. They add Tim Drevno from Michigan so potentially

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<v Speaker 2>help with the offensive line where his background is. But

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<v Speaker 2>if JT. Daniels doesn't start it, maybe it's a situation

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<v Speaker 2>like it was when Sam Donald came in. Like they

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<v Speaker 2>start Max Brown, but with a very short leach and

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<v Speaker 2>leech leech and JT. Daniels comes in USC has I

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<v Speaker 2>think at this point some pretty lofty national expectations coming

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<v Speaker 2>off of winning the conference and not fully showing up

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<v Speaker 2>against their two high profile national opponents these past couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years in Ohio State and Alabama. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of weight on who's ever on, whoever shoulders whoever

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders the load. Yes, for USC, and it seems almost

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<v Speaker 2>implausible that J. T. Daniels would not be starting given

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<v Speaker 2>his talent level by mid season. But I just don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>as a true freshman, and as a young true freshman,

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<v Speaker 2>what that means for USC's ceiling. Where do you stand

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<v Speaker 2>on I mean, this is not even close to the

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<v Speaker 2>first time somebody is reclassified. It's not the first time

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<v Speaker 2>somebody is reclassified to us C. John David Boody did

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing, sure, so I believe he sat quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of time, more than JT. Daniels might if

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<v Speaker 2>he starts the season. So Te Martin is now in

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<v Speaker 2>coaching head coaching conversations. Running the offense. I know Tyson Helton,

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<v Speaker 2>Clay Helton's brother, was running the passing game. He moves

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<v Speaker 2>along to Tennessee, so a little bit of new faith

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<v Speaker 2>factor for USC and the schedule, especially against the defenses

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<v Speaker 2>early on. If JT. Daniels is thrown to the fire,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to learn a lot quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough in the early going when you have quality

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<v Speaker 1>competition and an uncertain quarterback situation. And I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>if it's JT. Daniels or Joe freaking Neemuth, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is going to be a move whoever

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<v Speaker 1>ends up getting that job that materializes late in the year,

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<v Speaker 1>right around the time USC host Notre Dame last week

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<v Speaker 1>of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make a call right now. If JT.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniels does not start the season, it's to me, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said before, almost implausible. They have a bye week

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<v Speaker 2>after they go to Tucson on September twenty ninth, before

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<v Speaker 2>they host Colorado on October thirteenth. If they lose that

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona game some sort of crazy Khalil Tait shootout, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not unheard of, that's, you know, going to Tucson

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<v Speaker 2>has always been tough. I think that he will start

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<v Speaker 2>against Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on, Dan, Who's next. I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the coaching front here.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Number eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you mentioned that one of USC's early opponents is

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<v Speaker 1>Texas the Longhorns.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about an old friend of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Let's an old friend of the podcast. He's actually

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<v Speaker 1>been sin Shipley. No, he's actually been on this podcast before.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the internet's favorite offensive line coach. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman by the name of herb hand Yep, you know

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, love coach hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Texas gained about one hundred and forty yards per game

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground last season. That is not particularly an

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<v Speaker 1>eye popping number, is it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not, especially given where Texas is in the recent

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<v Speaker 2>history of Texas running back success as of like two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. They should never be short of running.

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<v Speaker 1>They should never be short of much of anything. In

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<v Speaker 1>the great State of Texas, it's a recruiting hotbed. But

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<v Speaker 1>alas the offensive line for the Longhorns recently has underperformed,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas finds itself in the twenty eighteen season in a

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<v Speaker 1>rather unique spot. And I'm parroting this somewhat from our

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<v Speaker 1>friend Bill Connolly, who wrote a great Texas preview. Nine

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<v Speaker 1>alignemen for the Longhorns started at least one game last season,

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<v Speaker 1>but surprisingly none of them started all thirteen, which means

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<v Speaker 1>to go pretty damn deep in terms of offensive line talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Five of those nine are back. They also bring over

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Anderson, who's a transfer from Rice. He was an

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<v Speaker 1>honorable mention All Conference USA.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Rubik's cube.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. They've got six guys along that line with

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<v Speaker 1>a combined one hundred and two career starts. If ever

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<v Speaker 1>there were a time for an offensive line coach to

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<v Speaker 1>mold that experience into and better effort this season, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would be right here and right now for

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<v Speaker 1>coach Herbhan. Her coach herb Hand has done wonders elsewhere

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<v Speaker 1>at previous stops.

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<v Speaker 2>Did a great job at Auburn last year, did a.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job at Auburn last year. Didn't have a ton

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<v Speaker 1>to work with at Penn State.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if Texas is going to improve demonstrably, it

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<v Speaker 1>starts again along that offensive line. A common theme for

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<v Speaker 1>me here Michigan was my first item. Now we're going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the offensive line as we go farther south

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<v Speaker 1>and into Big twelve territory with herb Hand, Texas offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line coach. If there is a gain a notable gain.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's there. And oh, by the way, not

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<v Speaker 1>to turn this into a larger discussion, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve as a whole is up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear that's Skyler Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. As we look at Texas now, as we

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<v Speaker 1>look at what they have returning, not just along the line,

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<v Speaker 1>but elsewhere, if they can get a solid performance up front.

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<v Speaker 1>They got Sam Ellinger coming back, They've got plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>talent elsewhere. Maybe need to define themselves a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more at the skill positions, but I feel pretty confident

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<v Speaker 1>that they can get the job done if coach hand

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<v Speaker 1>can get the act together there in the trenches.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of questions about this offense this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we don't know who's starting at quarterback. There's

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<v Speaker 2>talent at receiver, but pretty inconsistently consistent. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed like after that USC game Colin Johnson was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, slated to break out and didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Really.

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<v Speaker 2>I think little Jordan Humphrey is one of the more exciting,

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<v Speaker 2>versatile receivers and we'll see what they do with him.

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<v Speaker 2>The offensive line should be okay if they stay healthy inside.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there might be some question about depth, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more than anything, I think the offensive line will

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<v Speaker 2>eventually be fine. More than anything, like who is still

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<v Speaker 2>who's the dude in the backfield? Who is you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see a workhorse. I don't see a game changer.

0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I know they got the transfer from cal Trey Watson,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, But there isn't that clear guy. And there

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be at most major programs, even with questions

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<v Speaker 2>that offensive skill, especially running back, largely is established and

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<v Speaker 2>what we're going to get into another school where it's

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<v Speaker 2>also surprisingly not established. But I'm more curious about who's

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<v Speaker 2>actually running behind that line by the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>year consistently, who's toting the rock eighteen nineteen times? Because

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<v Speaker 2>really don't hope it's Sam Ellinger. Really don't hope that's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy running twenty times. That worries me about that.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we call it beck Meyer syndrome? Yeah, yes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I am. I am most excited to see if

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<v Speaker 2>anybody can step up in the backfield toting the rock.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, where are we going next? Stan, I'll follow

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<v Speaker 1>your lead and go with a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the other side of the ball and

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about him a few weeks ago as one

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<v Speaker 2>of I think one of the more secretly fun moves.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Nate Woodie to Georgia Tech. Nate Woody long time,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been there for a few years, app state defensive

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<v Speaker 2>coordinator has sort of well traveled, but Georgia Tech, most

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<v Speaker 2>recently under I want to say it was Ted Roof

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<v Speaker 2>struggled on defense, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You can say that to be to put it lightly, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be correct.

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<v Speaker 2>They've struggled, and I understand that there are certain challenges

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<v Speaker 2>both in terms of who George Tech and recruit because

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<v Speaker 2>of academics. Though other schools that have similar challenges Stanford

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<v Speaker 2>Northwestern have put together see Notre Dame has put together

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<v Speaker 2>good defensive line classes, good fronts. I think Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>is probably a little bit different. But there is no

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<v Speaker 2>reason Georgia Tech at its very least can't be creative.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to have this, They're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>have the same five star, huge ridiculous talents along the

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<v Speaker 2>defensive line. But Nate Woody is somebody over these last

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<v Speaker 2>few years and especially last year, created havoc upfront. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's tackles for a loss force fumbles, tipball stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Where they are they are causing troubles. Tye the troubles,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think if Georgia Tech, as they switch, I

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<v Speaker 2>think from a four to five to a three four,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're able to populate that front with the at

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<v Speaker 2>least approaching good size, I think if they can stir

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<v Speaker 2>up confusion, if they can be creative under Nate Woody,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't a defense that's facing a lot of established quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>They have USF you know, Juwan Pass and Louisville early

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<v Speaker 2>on Clemson. We don't know what's going to happen with

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 2>quarterback there. If they're going to be starting somebody young.

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia Tech I know Josh Jackson I believe is now

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to play. Miami quarterback is up

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<v Speaker 2>in the air after how that finished last year. Georgia, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia will be good. Georgia will be good. But if

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech is able to create that havoc sort of

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<v Speaker 2>winning with Guile, I think they can cause a lot

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>of problems in a not sure thing division in the ACC.

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<v Speaker 2>So Nate Woody, I think if he is able to

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<v Speaker 2>install and teach quickly, and I don't think the talent

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<v Speaker 2>is there yet, but by the end of the season

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps I think Georgia Tech could be like a Necro brother,

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<v Speaker 2>a Phil Neicro, Joe Nicro. This is what I want.

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<v Speaker 2>I want. I want Nate Woody to be Alex Grinch Nekro.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I want. I want. I want an ephis

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<v Speaker 2>every once in a while. Are there any more Necros?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it just Joe and Phil?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it would just be Joe and Phil Necro. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm seeing some dope baseball cards right now in

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<v Speaker 2>Google Images.

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a Lance Necro who's a Lance. Yeah, he's a son.

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Apparently does he play baseball.

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>He's wearing a baseball hat in this photo, so maybe.

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I mean, we saw what Duke did last year

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 2>with just blitzing the hell out of everybody. I want

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 2>that for Georgia Tech. That's what I want. The Necro Yeah,

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 2>who was it was? Jim Knowles was the defensive coordinator.

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just Georgia Tech and defense do not exactly

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>go together. It's usually like oil and water, and that's

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>been the primary complaint that Georgia Tech fans have given

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.199
<v Speaker 1>to us over the years. We've had plenty of Georgia

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Tech fans right in, a lot of very passionate fans

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>of the program, many of whom are quite simply at

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a point where they're wondering if Paul Johnson is going

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:40.879
<v Speaker 1>to work out. That's the way that Georgia Tech should

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>continue going over the next couple of seasons. I think

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of their problems start on defense. The offense

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>in and of itself is unique enough. They've gotten enough talent.

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that they can be rather effective on that

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>side of the football, but they've got to keep points

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 1>off the board fair.

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 2>I think Tech fans they want to watch some flexbone,

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>They want to figure out if they like Paul Johnson still.

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 2>They want to eat some heirloom barbecue. That's the place

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 2>we went to. Yeah, airloom barbecue. I've been to. And

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 2>there's a new place, Bee's Crackling. Okay, that's the new place, Ty,

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 2>That's the new place in Atlanta, Bez Kracklin. Bee's Cracklin.

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 2>So we want the d cracklin for Georgia Tech. That's

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 2>that's what our point is here today.

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Dan, Let's go back to the Big twelve here, let's done.

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 1>This one's a little bit like shooting fish in the barrel.

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So the way we describe this whole segment is that

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>we were notably trying to veer away from some of

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the common names. It very easily could have been Shape

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Patterson and not the Michigan offensive line. You can make

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a case for Shape Pattins. Of course you can't write

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>there are some though that, to be honest, you can't

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>avoid them.

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about a coach here. I'm going

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to talk about a coach momentarily I think fits that mold.

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>But there is a player. We've talked a lot about

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>him this offseason. Quite frankly, we would have talked a

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>lot about him even if it weren't the slow offseason

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 1>because Kyler Murray has been a huge part of the

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>narrative all throughout the offseason. He's going to be part

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>of the narrative moving forward. He's probably going to be

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>a Fantasy Things selection when we do our live show

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. Oh, it has to be not to tip

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 1>the hand too much, but Kyler Murray is in a

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>very unique situation. He comes over as a transfer from

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Texas A and m He was highly recruited, got a

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit of playing time before deciding to pick up

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>his ball and move up north to Norman m HM.

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Sat out a year, got a little bit of playing

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>time a year ago behind Baker Mayfield, and was the

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>heir apparent to the throne there after Mayfield left, went

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:59.719
<v Speaker 1>off to the NFL, got drafted first overall. In the interim,

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>what has happened is that Kyler Murray, the baseball player,

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>was drafted ninth overall by the Oakland Athletics. Was signed

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>for five million dollars with the Oakland Athletics on the

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>condition that he gets to play one season of football.

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>One and only season of football. I can't believe in

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 1>their right mind that the Oakland Athletics are okay with

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>this plan. But Kyler Murray must have a damn good

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>agent that negotiated he gets to play one season of football,

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>So it really is boom or bust for him. It

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>seems to me that Kyler Murray has gotten every benefit

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>of the doubt that he's just going to step into

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the Lincoln Riley offense. He's going to fit right in.

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>He's going to play at a very high level. All

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that despite the fact that he's only had one hundred

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.479
<v Speaker 1>and forty two pass attempts in his entire college football career,

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>there's no denying Dan that he is an incredibly talented

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>attat If he got drafted in the top ten of

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the baseball draft, he's obviously a talented kid. It really

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>does rise or fall with the plight of Kyler Murray

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen for the Oklahoma Sooners, does it not?

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh? It absolutely does, especially an offensive line overhaul. Defensively,

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>they were sort of a mess last year, so I

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 2>mean later on against teams that it mattered against, but

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>they had nice moments on defense. But it's not like

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>everything is in place around him so that even if

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 2>he struggles, Oklahoma will still be pretty good. Everything's not

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 2>super in place, except for they have right now the

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 2>most innovative offensive head coach probably in college football, and

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Kyler Murray, certainly, as you mentioned, has that innate talents.

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I think we are rooting for Kyler Murray to be

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'm only going to speak for both of us,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 2>well speaker for both of us were rooting for him

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>to be good because it's a year that's shaping up

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 2>and it could be a special year, not necessarily for

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 2>high level quarterback ten talent, but high level quarterback excitement.

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Even without Baker Mayfield. You have the situation in Tuscaloosa,

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you have a situation in Georgie. Of the situation, you know,

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Trace McSorley should be very good. We're hoping Dwayne Haskins

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 2>is very good for similar reasons. At Ohio State, he

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>has been announced as at least will go into the

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>fall camp as starter. Jared Sidham should be very exciting.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Khalil Tate is obviously mister excitement, so adding that to

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>each conference. Whereas I don't know outside of Will gree

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>or there's anybody in the Big twelve that defines excitement

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 2>and fun at quarterback, at least in an established way.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Whereas at least we have that inkling because of Kyler

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Murray as a recruit, because of what he has shown

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 2>in his very brief time playing for Oklahoma. I believe

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 2>he played half after Baker Mayfield, he started a half

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>after Baker Mayfield was suspended. But there is that tantalizing love,

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>that word possibility that Kyler Murray fulfills his potential in

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>an exciting offense and that would be terrible news for

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the big time.

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>That would be college football ASMR.

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's exactly right type.

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where we're headed with this. I am

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>rooting for him to succeed. I'm rooting for him more

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>now than I think I was previously, if only because

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>this really is a unique situation. I can't remember a

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>situation like this where it was already a foregone conclusion

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that he was only going to play one season because

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>of baseball.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there have been players who have played basketball and

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 2>it was clear that that was their sport or you know,

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 2>run track. I remember Devin Allen at Oregon. That was

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>sort of clear at a certain point. But the whole

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>being drafted and established and that road already being paved,

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 2>that seems new.

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>It seems like we're in unique territory for me. That

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I think makes me want to root for him a

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit more so.

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>What about Samarja, Was he drafted before his last year,

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>was that after and he just decided?

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Samarja just decided after the fact. He decided after the fact.

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>There was very much an open question throughout his senior

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>season if he was going to go and play baseball

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>or football? Is he still a pitcher? Is still pitcher playing?

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Still making money? That's why you play baseball. That's why

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you play baseball. Make more money, especially as a pitcher.

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great, cool, love it.

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray. I think so much of the Big twelve

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>season in front of us is going to hinge on

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>how well he does or doesn't do. So need to

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>throw him in the ring here? Where are we going next?

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Alexander Madison? Tie?

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Whoa mad dog?

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm not I go Madison Avenue? But whatever, Ty listen,

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>we can do whatever we want. It's our show. Yeah,

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Alexander Madison. Aside from sounding like a bootleg, Hamilton is

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 2>a really good running back for Poise State, a team

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 2>set up given that they have a four year starting

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>quarterback in Brett Rippon and return a ton on defense,

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>at least outside of the clear best player in the

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>conference in Leyton Vander esh who first round, second round?

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 2>He was drafted pretty early on. Was he a first

0:32:58.560 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>round pick?

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Tie? I believe so? Yes?

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Whatever, Yeah, it doesn't matter in the context of Alexander Madison,

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>who has the potential, has the ceiling of running crazy

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>for Boise State, a team a program that year after year,

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 2>whether it's Jeremy McNichols, Doug Martin, j Jaye, whoever, they've

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 2>just they've been a consistent place to develop running backs.

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And he was beat up at the end of last year.

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 2>It was sort of an up and down November for him.

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>But if Alexander Madison is healthy with a pretty experienced

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 2>offensive line in front of him, they have a tricky

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 2>ish early schedule they go to Troy into Oklahoma State,

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 2>but with that time to prepare and he being the

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 2>man I am, I'm anticipating big things for a key

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>player for what is probably the most stable group of

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>five New Year's six contender.

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I think, boys, he's going to be the best group

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of five team this year. I really do.

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 2>It's a tough that Troy in Oklahoma State thing is tough,

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, they are built to weather a lot even

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 2>against those two teams, even going to Oklahoma State because

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 2>of the experience, especially on the back end of that

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>defense receivers. Kind of a question for Boise, which I

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>think even is a bigger reason to look at Alexander Madison,

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Madison Avenue.

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going with that go a mad Dog this year.

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>But whatever, I like.

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Him a lot, and I think that is going to

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 2>be an underrated part of what should be a top

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 2>fifteen ish team.

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Brett Rippon.

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I did.

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Brett Rippon at this point feels like he's as old

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>as Mark Rippin, Dan, He's been there. He's gonna be

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>a four year starter.

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember Brett Rippin's first bowl game? You're probably

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna say no, but that's okay.

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>No, definitely not.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Brett Rippon was the quarterback the year Boise State beat

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Northern Illinois fifty five to seven in the Poinsettia Bowl. Okay,

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 2>and I want to say Northern Illinois put up a

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 2>total of like nineteen yards.

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh that game, that's right, I remember that.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh that was so that was mathematically so fun. And

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I've granted a low point four for an IU. But

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 2>that just the fact that we're going to be able to, hopefully,

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 2>if you're a Boise State fan or whatever, bookend the

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Brett Rippon experience and it begins sort of with that

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.720
<v Speaker 2>just impossible dribbing makes me happy on the inside.

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Tye n IU had thirty eight passing yards and negative

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>five rushing yards in that football game.

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Is that? Is that a thirty three yard game.

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Tye fifty one plays thirty three total yards. That doesn't

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>feel for those doing the math at home, that is

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>less than one yard per play.

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's so so so.

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>That's an S and P plus ratings killer right there.

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say, so.

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Moving on, we have next. Should I just get my

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>other give me out of the way, please, let's get

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:05.359
<v Speaker 1>it out of the way here. I already mentioned Kyler Murray. Again,

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>We're not going for the obvious, but sometimes the obvious

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>are just too obvious. You have to throw them in there.

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go Scott Frost, another favorite here of the podcast.

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>In the off season, Scott Frost comes over from UCF.

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>He is coming home, so to speak, to Lincoln, Nebraska.

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>He is taking over as the new head football coach

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>for Big Red. He can potentially, potentially, now potentially create

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>a huge, huge counterbalance in the Big Ten West, not

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>only to Wisconsin, not just this year, but okay, moving forward,

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>a huge counterbalance to Wisconsin. Not just to Wisconsin, but

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to the entire Big Ten East, which I think until

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>now has largely been viewed as the dominant side of

0:36:58.840 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the Big Ten conference.

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:05.800
<v Speaker 1>If you can start to bring the whole conference into equilibrium,

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Dan or a greater state of equilibrium that makes the

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Big Ten as a whole, I think a much much

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>more interesting conference.

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Agree.

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>The reason that I throw Scott Frost in the ring

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>is because I want to talk about the schedule before

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the Cornhuskers in this twenty eighteen season.

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 2>But who sang the coming Home song? I've had it

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.240
<v Speaker 2>in my head since you said it about Scott Frost,

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe is there It is?

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Skyler Gray? Yeah, wow, good job, thank you. That's what

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about here.

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Right when you least expect me playing that song when

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 2>we bring up Scott Frost during the season all season long, Wham,

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 2>there it is.

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I bring this up kind of in the same vein

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.959
<v Speaker 1>as some of our Chad Morris discussion earlier this year,

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>where we don't necessarily think Arkansas is going to go

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 1>on in a kind of title run in the SEC

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>or nationally.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 2>But hold on writing this down, we're sort of expecting

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>saw not on title bet on Arkansas.

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>That's what that means. Yeah, But I think there is

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>enough potential here for Nebraska to put the pieces together

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to knock off one of these presumed Titans in the

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Big Ten and affect the way we view the Big

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Ten come late November.

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Rank the upset ability yeah, of Nebraska versus Big Ten powers.

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>So let me go through this Nebraska versus Michigan games

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>at Michigan end of September.

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts, well, I just Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan State.

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm just asking you to rank the most to least

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 2>likely that situation where Nebraska upsets them. I think Michigan

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 2>wins that game.

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I think Michigan wins that game. I think, as I

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 1>look at this here very quickly at first blush, I

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>think Nebraska over Michigan State the week before Thanksgiving games

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>in Lincoln. I think that's probably the best chance of it.

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm very curious, though, very curious to see what happens

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>in early November. A very tough spot going to the

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Horseshoe against Ohio State. However, that's like Nebraska's national show.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Was after a bye week. That's true.

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, after bye week. That's like Nebraska's national championship. So

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying so, I'm just saying I feel like

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>there is gonna be a game in here when Nebraska

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>pulls an upset because Scott Frost gets creative, he gets

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 1>his troops assembled. And maybe it doesn't happen for him

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>this year going ten to two, but eight and four,

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>seven and five, even with like a just a big

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>upset in there could be enough I think to make

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>him pivotal not only in this season but in every

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>season moving forward where he remains as the braske head

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>football coach.

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>So I would say most to least likely. I'd say

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 2>most likely he upsets Michigan because again, Michigan won't be

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 2>able to score thirty points. If Nebraska offense is at

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.399
<v Speaker 2>least rolling in it's a shootout. Least likely, I would

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>say at Ohio State. Second, least likely Wisconsin, both of

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 2>those on the road. Second, most likely Michigan State. So

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 2>i'd the Michigan schools first, Michigan. Michigan State's on the road.

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be cold and gross, and East Lansing

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 2>and oh no excuse me, and even in Lincoln it's

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 2>going to be cold and gross in late November. So

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say at Michigan, Michigan State, at Wisconsin,

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 2>at Ohio State in that order.

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you agree with the selection as a whole, with

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Scott Frost's for twenty eighteen for twenty eighteen, not twenty

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty eighteen.

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:49.240
<v Speaker 2>No, not necessarily, Not because Scott Frost is too famous

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 2>and too mainstream for my hipster college football tastes, but

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 2>just because it's going to take a year, just because

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I like his coaching staff, I like some of the

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 2>talent on hand. I'm a believer that he is going

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 2>to get talent to Lincoln within the context of talent

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.479
<v Speaker 2>that would want to come to Lincoln. Okay, that isn't

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 2>necessarily nearby, but that's going to Michigan in two Wisconsin

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 2>and to Ohio State in his first year installing everything

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 2>on both sides of the field. I think that's too

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 2>much task for all.

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, let me let me do one more here

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 1>and then you can close it out with two of

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>your own.

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, go for it.

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna stay on the coaching side of

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the fence here, not gonna go head coach because I

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 1>guess that's not hipster enough for you, Daniel.

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 2>It's not. It never is.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 1>But let's go back to the big twelve. Let's go

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 1>to the defensive side of the football. And let's talk

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about West Virginia. Okay, I meant it

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>when I said it that the Big twelves a little

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>bit up for grabs this year. It feels like there's

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of turnover. Not quite sure where things could go, right.

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean because of the new quarterback situation across

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the conference.

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's talk about Tony Gibson.

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, West Virginia quarterback on that team.

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:05.720
<v Speaker 1>But yes, defensive coordinator, you're right, Will Greer comes back.

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>If he stays healthy, he and David Sills can continue

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>forging that bond doing amazing things in the passing game.

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not worried about West Virginia's offense. I never really am.

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>They've got seven starters back on offense, They're going to

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>be fine. Where I'm particularly interested is on defense, where

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>they also have seven more starters back. I think West

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Virginia could be a top ten team if again, the

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 1>offense performs at the level I think we expect and

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>we get something from that West Virginia defense. If we

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>get something from that West Virginia defense, we saw it

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>a couple years ago. But they're very disruptive on the

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>defensive side of the ball created a lot of plays

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>with their defensive backfield. I want to see what Tony

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Gibson can put together in twenty eighteen. I think if

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>they can be disruptive on that side of the football,

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.720
<v Speaker 1>given all the turnover that we're going to see around

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the Big Twelve, particularly on offense, this defense at West

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Virginia could really be an X factor, could propel the

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Mountaineers to something I don't know, something we haven't seen

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:17.839
<v Speaker 1>from them in quite some time during the Dana Holgerson era.

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Man, I think West Virginia's defense is gonna be torched.

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm saying if if they can get anything

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>together seven returning starters, if he can pull it together,

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 1>would that or would that not be a truly pivotal

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 1>story in twenty eighteen.

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know where that number specifically comes from,

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 2>and obviously there are starters who start a couple games

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 2>where you can include that. But they lost a couple

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 2>dudes that they were counting on for serious playing time

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 2>along the defensive line to transfer. A couple of linebackers

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 2>got hurt. They're replacing both corners and we expect big

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 2>twelve offenses to at least be competent. And I am

0:43:56.200 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 2>just I believe with my whole heart and soul and

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 2>brain that West Virginia will beat a team that they

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 2>probably shouldn't and they'll beat them forty five to forty

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 2>one or something like that. They'll be really fun and

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 2>we get a bunch of crazy gifts of will greor

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 2>running around making faces and having a good time. I

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 2>believe that. I just think they're going to lose two

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to five of those as well, because I don't think

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:22.319
<v Speaker 2>to compete in the Big twelve. To even just be

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 2>competent in the Big twelve on defense, you just you

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 2>have to have things going for you. And I don't

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 2>see West Virginia's defense as a team. And this I

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 2>think speaks to why this is a correct answer of

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 2>choosing Tony Gibson as a pivotal name here. I just

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 2>talent wise, attrition wise. I don't think West virginia Is

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:44.399
<v Speaker 2>defense has a ton going for it. So if they're

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 2>able to muster something, sure, but I think it'd be

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 2>a miracle. And this is not a take, This is

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 2>not me trying to rile people up. I think it's

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 2>a miracle. If West Virginia wins eight games, I think

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 2>everything has to go perfectly. They just feel like a

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 2>seven and five, six and six team to me, And

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 2>that's not being kind but being at least having a

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 2>little bit of optimism. All Right, I think they got burnt.

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, it wouldn't be anything new if they got burnt.

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.919
<v Speaker 1>That's true, quite frankly, that's what we're used to Dan.

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying, if he can spin any kind

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>of gold, now.

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 2>It's true, he's done it before.

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Out of whatever returning experience they have, I think it

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>makes West Virginia potentially a top ten team given that

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 1>offense and who knows. As we look in the Big twelve.

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 2>They bring in Kenny Bigelow. Do you remember that name?

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Sure, he was like a recruiting with two thousand and four,

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:44.720
<v Speaker 2>got hurt a bunch of times at USC.

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I think he grew up on the same team or

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 2>same seven on seven team as David Sills, so it's

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 2>been a journey for both of them. I don't know

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 2>how you can be as old as Kenny Bigelow and

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 2>still go by Kenny like he just has to be

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 2>a Ken big.

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, you made the Danny to Dan switch at some

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>point around college for any day of college. Kenny bigel

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 1>apparently never.

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Did Kenneth Bigelow. Yeah all right, yeah, but you know what,

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 2>if he's really good, that speaks to your hypothesis.

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Where are we going next? Now? I see you've got

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>two players here, Yes, that you've listed. One, by the way,

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>is not very hipster.

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I agree. I don't know which one you're talking about,

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 2>because these.

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Are the second one here on this not very hipster.

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought IM like this one as well.

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about Joe Burrow, who is not hipster, even

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 2>though he is getting hype without actually doing anything, which

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>feels like a very hipster thing.

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>So now I have a question for you.

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 2>All right, I have an answer, potentially.

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.839
<v Speaker 1>I think it goes without saying that that my nicknames

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 1>that I have put forth here over the last couple

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of seasons have really been solid gold.

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm still not on board with Duke of Hazzard Alan Wizard,

0:46:59.080 --> 0:46:59.959
<v Speaker 2>but okay.

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Duke of Hazzard Alan Wizard had major staying power.

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 2>It's so many words.

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 1>EQ causing treble. That was instant gold, Dan.

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people are all just lining the streets with that one.

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>When you think of the word burrow, what do you

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 1>think of.

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:20.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't like a groundhog or something right burrowing into

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 2>the ground.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 1>So what if instead of Joe Burrow we just went

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Joe dirt in twenty eighteen, would that be a thing

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>we could do?

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:27.919
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good.

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:28.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Joe dirt.

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 2>It's it's clean, it's quick, it's and that might be

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 2>like LSU's national championship aspirations over cleanly, quickly. Joe Burrow

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 2>aka Joe Dirt, I think is good. Thank But generally

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 2>we give nicknames to people who have proven worthy of

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 2>being nicknamed.

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, generally speaking, that is correct.

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So Joe Burrow to catch everybody up if

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.479
<v Speaker 2>you have not, if you've been burying your head under

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 2>the burrowing your head. Thank you, ty, thank you very much,

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. ASMR crackle crackle. Joe Burrow is a grad

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 2>transfer from Ohio State who showed potential during the spring

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 2>game for Ohio State. Everybody seems to like him. He

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 2>graduated in three years, so he has a couple of

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 2>years of eligibility for LSU. Was a grad transfer is

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 2>on campus now, I believe, and immediately eligible because he's

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 2>a grad transfer. Steps into a situation without a clear

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 2>cut starting quarterback. They have a couple of decent recruits,

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:29.359
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Miles Brennan played in some games last

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 2>year but didn't show enough to warrant not going after

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 2>a grad transfer quarterback, and so Joe Burrow, talent, likable

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:40.720
<v Speaker 2>whatever from Ohio will be immediately thrown into the fire.

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 2>They have Miami Week one. I want to say in Arlington.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about ninety three percent sure that's true. They go

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<v Speaker 2>to Auburn, they go to Florida, and I believe the

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<v Speaker 2>week after Florida they are playing Georgia, so they will

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:59.879
<v Speaker 2>he will see fast, aggressive, angry NFL Leiden defenses sooner

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 2>rather than later. And this is all with a new

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 2>coordinator and Steve Enzinger, I hope I pronounced that correctly,

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 2>who took over a couple of years ago on an

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 2>interim basis. And everybody's saying, Oh, they're gonna They're They're

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 2>opening up the offense, They're gonna throw downfield a lot more.

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 2>They add Jonathan Giles, the promising albeit not huge receiver

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<v Speaker 2>from Texas Tech. The big surprise to me about Lsu

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 2>is that he is not going to have a year

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:28.279
<v Speaker 2>over year, there's a new guy who's a new star

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 2>running back like Texas should have, like LSU should have,

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 2>But after Darius Guice, after Leonard Fournette, there just isn't

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 2>that obvious dude to take over and take some of

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 2>the weight off of Joe Burrow's shoulders. So to me,

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<v Speaker 2>if Joe Burrow is good, and I know they've recruited

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 2>a couple of decent receivers recently, Teris Marshall's the newest one.

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 2>If he is good, that means his line, which does

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 2>have some experience, That means the receivers and past catchers

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 2>that he's throwing to, that means somebody's emerging at running back.

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Then LSU can win nine game. But there are so

0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 2>many variables and Joe Burrow not throwing a meaningful college

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:10.800
<v Speaker 2>pass and stepping into a pretty crazy situation schedule wise,

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 2>is feels like a pivotal name for me. Ty Yeah, just.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Joe Burrow Joe Dirt? Thank you? Yeah? I look,

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback position at LSU is up there with Florida,

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 1>It's up there with other schools where the natural impulse

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.800
<v Speaker 1>is to say, well, they're just they're just a quarterback away.

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Whether or not they all right, whether or not that's

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 1>true in reality, remains to be seen. But Joe Burrow

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:45.759
<v Speaker 1>is an interesting case just because he comes in with

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of promise. He comes from Ohio State. You

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:49.919
<v Speaker 1>said it a couple of weeks ago. He's gotta be good,

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:55.360
<v Speaker 1>gotta be Joe Dirt. Come on, well, we'll wait and see.

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll wait and see. Can't any worse than what they've

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Speaker 1>been trotten out there the last couple of years. LSU

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 1>hasn't had a serviceable quarterback since.

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Like Zach Mettenberger, man, you your slander of Danny Etling

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 2>is not going to go unanswered to. Danny Etling was

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:13.479
<v Speaker 2>pretty good last year.

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:15.880
<v Speaker 1>He's okay, pretty okay.

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 2>He was pretty good anyway.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow, Joe Dirt, Joe Dirt. Who's our last pivotal

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>name here?

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Final player? One of my favorite names, just because it's

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 2>a fun name to say, but also because he is

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:31.720
<v Speaker 2>probably one of the three best pass rushers in the country.

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Ferrell, Cleveland Ferrell, Cleveland, Cleveland, The Cleveland Show. Cleveland

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Ferrell defensive end for Clemson. Just a maniac, a monster

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 2>in the backfields, A should be one of the first

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:50.839
<v Speaker 2>two or three pass rushers off the board in next

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:54.440
<v Speaker 2>year's draft. Has not been at Clemson terribly long, but

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 2>he has a very specific luxury tie of having the

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:04.880
<v Speaker 2>best probably defensive tackle duo next to him in Christian

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence. So it feels right that he

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 2>is going to be I mean, and alongside Austin Bryan

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the defensive line is just

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:16.839
<v Speaker 2>going to be trouble ty. He is just going to

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:21.239
<v Speaker 2>be trouble And the reason I went with him over Lawrence,

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 2>over Brian, over Wilkins, who are all excellent and could

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 2>all go in the first round next year of the

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 2>NFL Draft, is because of his ability, specifically to get

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 2>to the quarterback with the quarterback questions that Clemson has

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.719
<v Speaker 2>of their own that he will keep, and he will

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 2>probably do more to finish off plays even if the

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:44.560
<v Speaker 2>interior part of that line is collapsing the pocket and

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 2>forcing sacks to him. I think he is going to

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 2>do more to worry quarterbacks. I think he is going

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 2>to do more to get offenses behind schedule, behind the chains,

0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and that in turn should give Clemson's offense even if

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 2>they're inconsistent with a true freshman. Even if Kelly Bryant

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 2>is not what he probably probably should look like given

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 2>what he looked like at times last year. It gives

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.759
<v Speaker 2>them more shots, it gives them more opportunities to get

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 2>into a rhythm. And there's just something that scary about

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 2>a pass rusher with Cleveland Ferrell's ability. So that's why

0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I am and this is a defense chock fowl. Let

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 2>me Kendall. Joseph is great. We mentioned the defensive line.

0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 2>There's guys everywhere, but his sacking ability, and we talked

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 2>about gravity a little bit last year. Defensively, I think

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 2>he may have the most gravity on that team. Just

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 2>because you have plans. He doesn't care. And that's Cleveland Ferrell.

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Ferrell, Yeah.

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Ferrell.

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:50.600
<v Speaker 1>There you go, Cleveland Ferrell and Joe Dirt closing us

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 1>out here on the nineteen most pivotal people for the

0:53:54.680 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen college football season. One notable name is Missy here. Dan,

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:01.759
<v Speaker 1>we're only up to eighteen.

0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, can I guess let's go with we already mentioned

0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Adam A Memes. We're not gonna go with that. I'm

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.799
<v Speaker 2>stump ty. I don't know Steve Sarkisian. He's always good

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 2>for a laugh.

0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Listen, it's got to be the solid verbal.

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:22.720
<v Speaker 2>It's the solid verbal.

0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 1>It's got to be the solid verbal. We're the ones

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:25.760
<v Speaker 1>putting this show out.

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:26.960
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:31.240
<v Speaker 1>A prime number nineteen. Your name's for the twenty eighteen

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 1>college football season. So if you exclude us from this list,

0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>which you never should, I'm going to read through the

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 1>list very quickly. Today we did Michigan's offensive line, Kyler Murray,

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 1>JT Daniels, Cleveland Ferrell, Alexander mad Dog Madison, Joe Burrow

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:53.839
<v Speaker 1>aka Joe Dirt, Scott Frost, Tony Gibson, herb hand and

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator for Georgia Tech, Nate Woodie. Those names, in

0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:03.320
<v Speaker 1>addition to Clark Lee, Charles Chip, Kelly, Chico mcclatcher, DeAndre Swift,

0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Malcolm Perry, Marcus Arroyo, which somebody made fun of me

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 1>for the way I say.

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 2>That, Arroyo. It's arroyo, ah royo. No, No, not a

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 2>row roy Arroyo, Royo, arroyo. Thank you, Derek Dooley and

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Ricky Ronnie. To close out your nineteen most pivotal people

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 2>for the twenty eighteen college football season. Yeah, so now

0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:28.360
<v Speaker 2>you're just gonna waste away your night listening to and

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:29.400
<v Speaker 2>watching some ASMR.

0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 1>That's correct. Yeah, I need to I need well, I

0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say I need to get on this, but

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I need to expect further to see what I'm missing here.

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:37.360
<v Speaker 1>See if this is a real thing.

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 2>It's going to change your life and not necessarily for

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 2>the good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, on that note, don't forget to email

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:47.919
<v Speaker 1>in Suliverble at gmail dot com let us know your

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:51.280
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the On the list, we had somebody emailing

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:56.120
<v Speaker 1>with Brian Farrence, which is a pivotal name for Yeah,

0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:59.959
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty good Iowa football. Maybe not for a college

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:02.760
<v Speaker 1>football landscape as a whole, but you can make cases

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people, certainly that weren't on our list.

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:08.279
<v Speaker 1>We'd encourage you to email and tweet in let us

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:11.480
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0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:24.920
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