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Speaker 1: Ty Hildebrandt, joining me as always over there in beautiful

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Tye, and I have a proposal.

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Speaker 1: Yes please.

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Speaker 2: I would argue that podcasting is one of the more

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Speaker 1: We are literally in people's ears right now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's true. What if we just for today, because

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Speaker 2: did like a whole ASMR episode? H do you know

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Speaker 2: what ASMR is? Now? I don't ASMR. Have you ever

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Speaker 2: seen the YouTube videos where it's like people just like

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Speaker 2: where like it's it's supposed to make like the hairs

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Speaker 2: So it's like people like pursing their lips together, like

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Speaker 1: Like like real like and this is the thing now

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if you're wearing good headphones and I

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Speaker 1: It's an experience characterized by a static like or tingling

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Speaker 2: It's it's a it's a trep man. It is weird.

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Speaker 2: it's real. Like it's supposed to bridge the line, not

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Speaker 2: unlike what we're trying to do on this show, right

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Speaker 2: right right, I see it between sort of creepy and erotic.

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Speaker 1: So now as you know, Shae Patterson has garnered I

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Speaker 1: It's tough in the early going when you have quality

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make a call right now. If JT.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on, Dan, Who's next. I want to go

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Speaker 2: Dan Number eleven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that one of USC's early opponents is

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about an old friend of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Dan Let's an old friend of the podcast. He's actually

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Speaker 1: He is the internet's favorite offensive line coach. He's a

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Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of herb hand Yep, you know

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Speaker 2: Of course, love coach hand.

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Speaker 1: Texas gained about one hundred and forty yards per game

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Speaker 2: No, not, especially given where Texas is in the recent

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Speaker 1: They should never be short of much of anything. In

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Speaker 1: That's right. They've got six guys along that line with

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Speaker 1: coach Herbhan. Her coach herb Hand has done wonders elsewhere

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Speaker 2: Did a great job at Auburn last year, did a.

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Speaker 1: Great job at Auburn last year. Didn't have a ton

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Speaker 1: I think if Texas is going to improve demonstrably, it

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Speaker 1: I think it's there. And oh, by the way, not

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Speaker 1: They got Sam Ellinger coming back, They've got plenty of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of questions about this offense this year.

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Speaker 2: I think little Jordan Humphrey is one of the more exciting,

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Speaker 2: The offensive line should be okay if they stay healthy inside.

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Speaker 2: You know, there might be some question about depth, and

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Speaker 1: All right, where are we going next? Stan, I'll follow

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the other side of the ball and

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Speaker 2: That's Nate Woodie to Georgia Tech. Nate Woody long time,

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Speaker 2: They've struggled, and I understand that there are certain challenges

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Speaker 2: They're not going to have this, They're not going to

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Speaker 2: this isn't a defense that's facing a lot of established quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: They have USF you know, Juwan Pass and Louisville early

437
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 2: on Clemson. We don't know what's going to happen with

438
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: quarterback there. If they're going to be starting somebody young.

439
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech I know Josh Jackson I believe is now

440
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: going to be able to play. Miami quarterback is up

441
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: in the air after how that finished last year. Georgia, well,

442
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: Georgia will be good. Georgia will be good. But if

443
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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech is able to create that havoc sort of

444
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: winning with Guile, I think they can cause a lot

445
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: of problems in a not sure thing division in the ACC.

446
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Speaker 2: So Nate Woody, I think if he is able to

447
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: install and teach quickly, and I don't think the talent

448
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: is there yet, but by the end of the season

449
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: perhaps I think Georgia Tech could be like a Necro brother,

450
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: a Phil Neicro, Joe Nicro. This is what I want.

451
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Speaker 2: I want. I want Nate Woody to be Alex Grinch Nekro.

452
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Speaker 2: That's what I want. I want. I want an ephis

453
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Speaker 2: every once in a while. Are there any more Necros?

454
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Speaker 2: Is it just Joe and Phil?

455
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Speaker 1: I believe it would just be Joe and Phil Necro. Okay,

456
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Speaker 1: I'm back in the day.

457
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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm seeing some dope baseball cards right now in

458
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Speaker 2: Google Images.

459
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Speaker 1: There's a Lance Necro who's a Lance. Yeah, he's a son.

460
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Speaker 2: Apparently does he play baseball.

461
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Speaker 1: He's wearing a baseball hat in this photo, so maybe.

462
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Speaker 2: Okay. I mean, we saw what Duke did last year

463
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: with just blitzing the hell out of everybody. I want

464
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: that for Georgia Tech. That's what I want. The Necro Yeah,

465
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Speaker 2: who was it was? Jim Knowles was the defensive coordinator.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just Georgia Tech and defense do not exactly

467
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: go together. It's usually like oil and water, and that's

468
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Speaker 1: been the primary complaint that Georgia Tech fans have given

469
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Speaker 1: to us over the years. We've had plenty of Georgia

470
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Speaker 1: Tech fans right in, a lot of very passionate fans

471
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Speaker 1: of the program, many of whom are quite simply at

472
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Speaker 1: a point where they're wondering if Paul Johnson is going

473
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Speaker 1: to work out. That's the way that Georgia Tech should

474
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Speaker 1: continue going over the next couple of seasons. I think

475
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Speaker 1: a lot of their problems start on defense. The offense

476
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Speaker 1: in and of itself is unique enough. They've gotten enough talent.

477
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Speaker 1: I think that they can be rather effective on that

478
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: side of the football, but they've got to keep points

479
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Speaker 1: off the board fair.

480
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Speaker 2: I think Tech fans they want to watch some flexbone,

481
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: They want to figure out if they like Paul Johnson still.

482
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: They want to eat some heirloom barbecue. That's the place

483
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: we went to. Yeah, airloom barbecue. I've been to. And

484
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: there's a new place, Bee's Crackling. Okay, that's the new place, Ty,

485
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: That's the new place in Atlanta, Bez Kracklin. Bee's Cracklin.

486
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: So we want the d cracklin for Georgia Tech. That's

487
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Speaker 2: that's what our point is here today.

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Speaker 1: Dan, Let's go back to the Big twelve here, let's done.

489
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Speaker 1: This one's a little bit like shooting fish in the barrel.

490
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Speaker 1: So the way we describe this whole segment is that

491
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Speaker 1: we were notably trying to veer away from some of

492
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Speaker 1: the common names. It very easily could have been Shape

493
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Speaker 1: Patterson and not the Michigan offensive line. You can make

494
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Speaker 1: a case for Shape Pattins. Of course you can't write

495
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: there are some though that, to be honest, you can't

496
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Speaker 1: avoid them.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

498
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about a coach here. I'm going

499
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: to talk about a coach momentarily I think fits that mold.

500
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: But there is a player. We've talked a lot about

501
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: him this offseason. Quite frankly, we would have talked a

502
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: lot about him even if it weren't the slow offseason

503
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: because Kyler Murray has been a huge part of the

504
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: narrative all throughout the offseason. He's going to be part

505
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Speaker 1: of the narrative moving forward. He's probably going to be

506
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: a Fantasy Things selection when we do our live show

507
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Oh, it has to be not to tip

508
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: the hand too much, but Kyler Murray is in a

509
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: very unique situation. He comes over as a transfer from

510
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Speaker 1: Texas A and m He was highly recruited, got a

511
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: little bit of playing time before deciding to pick up

512
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: his ball and move up north to Norman m HM.

513
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: Sat out a year, got a little bit of playing

514
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Speaker 1: time a year ago behind Baker Mayfield, and was the

515
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: heir apparent to the throne there after Mayfield left, went

516
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Speaker 1: off to the NFL, got drafted first overall. In the interim,

517
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Speaker 1: what has happened is that Kyler Murray, the baseball player,

518
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: was drafted ninth overall by the Oakland Athletics. Was signed

519
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: for five million dollars with the Oakland Athletics on the

520
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: condition that he gets to play one season of football.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

522
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Speaker 1: One and only season of football. I can't believe in

523
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Speaker 1: their right mind that the Oakland Athletics are okay with

524
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: this plan. But Kyler Murray must have a damn good

525
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: agent that negotiated he gets to play one season of football,

526
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: So it really is boom or bust for him. It

527
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Speaker 1: seems to me that Kyler Murray has gotten every benefit

528
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Speaker 1: of the doubt that he's just going to step into

529
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Speaker 1: the Lincoln Riley offense. He's going to fit right in.

530
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Speaker 1: He's going to play at a very high level. All

531
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Speaker 1: that despite the fact that he's only had one hundred

532
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 1: and forty two pass attempts in his entire college football career,

533
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Speaker 1: there's no denying Dan that he is an incredibly talented

534
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Speaker 1: attat If he got drafted in the top ten of

535
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: the baseball draft, he's obviously a talented kid. It really

536
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: does rise or fall with the plight of Kyler Murray

537
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen for the Oklahoma Sooners, does it not?

538
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: Oh? It absolutely does, especially an offensive line overhaul. Defensively,

539
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: they were sort of a mess last year, so I

540
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: mean later on against teams that it mattered against, but

541
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: they had nice moments on defense. But it's not like

542
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: everything is in place around him so that even if

543
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: he struggles, Oklahoma will still be pretty good. Everything's not

544
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: super in place, except for they have right now the

545
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: most innovative offensive head coach probably in college football, and

546
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, certainly, as you mentioned, has that innate talents.

547
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Speaker 2: I think we are rooting for Kyler Murray to be

548
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: and I'm only going to speak for both of us,

549
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: well speaker for both of us were rooting for him

550
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: to be good because it's a year that's shaping up

551
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: and it could be a special year, not necessarily for

552
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: high level quarterback ten talent, but high level quarterback excitement.

553
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: Even without Baker Mayfield. You have the situation in Tuscaloosa,

554
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: you have a situation in Georgie. Of the situation, you know,

555
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: Trace McSorley should be very good. We're hoping Dwayne Haskins

556
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: is very good for similar reasons. At Ohio State, he

557
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: has been announced as at least will go into the

558
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: fall camp as starter. Jared Sidham should be very exciting.

559
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: Khalil Tate is obviously mister excitement, so adding that to

560
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: each conference. Whereas I don't know outside of Will gree

561
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Speaker 2: or there's anybody in the Big twelve that defines excitement

562
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: and fun at quarterback, at least in an established way.

563
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: Whereas at least we have that inkling because of Kyler

564
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Speaker 2: Murray as a recruit, because of what he has shown

565
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Speaker 2: in his very brief time playing for Oklahoma. I believe

566
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Speaker 2: he played half after Baker Mayfield, he started a half

567
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: after Baker Mayfield was suspended. But there is that tantalizing love,

568
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: that word possibility that Kyler Murray fulfills his potential in

569
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: an exciting offense and that would be terrible news for

570
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: the rest of the big time.

571
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: That would be college football ASMR.

572
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's exactly right type.

573
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Speaker 1: I think that's where we're headed with this. I am

574
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: rooting for him to succeed. I'm rooting for him more

575
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: now than I think I was previously, if only because

576
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: this really is a unique situation. I can't remember a

577
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: situation like this where it was already a foregone conclusion

578
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: that he was only going to play one season because

579
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: of baseball.

580
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there have been players who have played basketball and

581
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: it was clear that that was their sport or you know,

582
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: run track. I remember Devin Allen at Oregon. That was

583
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: sort of clear at a certain point. But the whole

584
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: being drafted and established and that road already being paved,

585
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: that seems new.

586
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: It seems like we're in unique territory for me. That

587
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: I think makes me want to root for him a

588
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: little bit more so.

589
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: What about Samarja, Was he drafted before his last year,

590
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: was that after and he just decided?

591
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: Samarja just decided after the fact. He decided after the fact.

592
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: There was very much an open question throughout his senior

593
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: season if he was going to go and play baseball

594
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: or football? Is he still a pitcher? Is still pitcher playing?

595
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Still making money? That's why you play baseball. That's why

596
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: you play baseball. Make more money, especially as a pitcher.

597
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, cool, love it.

598
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I think so much of the Big twelve

599
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: season in front of us is going to hinge on

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Speaker 1: how well he does or doesn't do. So need to

601
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: throw him in the ring here? Where are we going next?

602
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: Alexander Madison? Tie?

603
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: Whoa mad dog?

604
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not I go Madison Avenue? But whatever, Ty listen,

605
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: we can do whatever we want. It's our show. Yeah,

606
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: Alexander Madison. Aside from sounding like a bootleg, Hamilton is

607
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: a really good running back for Poise State, a team

608
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: set up given that they have a four year starting

609
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: quarterback in Brett Rippon and return a ton on defense,

610
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: at least outside of the clear best player in the

611
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: conference in Leyton Vander esh who first round, second round?

612
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Speaker 2: He was drafted pretty early on. Was he a first

613
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: round pick?

614
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Speaker 1: Tie? I believe so? Yes?

615
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: Whatever, Yeah, it doesn't matter in the context of Alexander Madison,

616
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: who has the potential, has the ceiling of running crazy

617
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: for Boise State, a team a program that year after year,

618
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: whether it's Jeremy McNichols, Doug Martin, j Jaye, whoever, they've

619
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Speaker 2: just they've been a consistent place to develop running backs.

620
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Speaker 2: And he was beat up at the end of last year.

621
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Speaker 2: It was sort of an up and down November for him.

622
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Speaker 2: But if Alexander Madison is healthy with a pretty experienced

623
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Speaker 2: offensive line in front of him, they have a tricky

624
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Speaker 2: ish early schedule they go to Troy into Oklahoma State,

625
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: but with that time to prepare and he being the

626
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: man I am, I'm anticipating big things for a key

627
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: player for what is probably the most stable group of

628
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: five New Year's six contender.

629
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Speaker 1: I think, boys, he's going to be the best group

630
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Speaker 1: of five team this year. I really do.

631
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Speaker 2: It's a tough that Troy in Oklahoma State thing is tough,

632
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: but yeah, they are built to weather a lot even

633
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: against those two teams, even going to Oklahoma State because

634
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: of the experience, especially on the back end of that

635
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: defense receivers. Kind of a question for Boise, which I

636
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: think even is a bigger reason to look at Alexander Madison,

637
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 2: Madison Avenue.

638
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Speaker 1: I'm going with that go a mad Dog this year.

639
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: But whatever, I like.

640
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: Him a lot, and I think that is going to

641
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: be an underrated part of what should be a top

642
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: fifteen ish team.

643
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: You mentioned Brett Rippon.

644
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: I did.

645
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: Brett Rippon at this point feels like he's as old

646
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: as Mark Rippin, Dan, He's been there. He's gonna be

647
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: a four year starter.

648
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: Do you remember Brett Rippin's first bowl game? You're probably

649
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: gonna say no, but that's okay.

650
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: No, definitely not.

651
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 2: Brett Rippon was the quarterback the year Boise State beat

652
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois fifty five to seven in the Poinsettia Bowl. Okay,

653
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Speaker 2: and I want to say Northern Illinois put up a

654
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: total of like nineteen yards.

655
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: Oh that game, that's right, I remember that.

656
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: Oh that was so that was mathematically so fun. And

657
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: I've granted a low point four for an IU. But

658
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: that just the fact that we're going to be able to, hopefully,

659
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: if you're a Boise State fan or whatever, bookend the

660
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: Brett Rippon experience and it begins sort of with that

661
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: just impossible dribbing makes me happy on the inside.

662
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Speaker 1: Tye n IU had thirty eight passing yards and negative

663
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: five rushing yards in that football game.

664
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Speaker 2: Is that? Is that a thirty three yard game.

665
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: Tye fifty one plays thirty three total yards. That doesn't

666
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: feel for those doing the math at home, that is

667
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: less than one yard per play.

668
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: Oh that's so so so.

669
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: That's an S and P plus ratings killer right there.

670
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, so.

671
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Speaker 1: Moving on, we have next. Should I just get my

672
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: other give me out of the way, please, let's get

673
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: it out of the way here. I already mentioned Kyler Murray. Again,

674
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: We're not going for the obvious, but sometimes the obvious

675
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: are just too obvious. You have to throw them in there.

676
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Scott Frost, another favorite here of the podcast.

677
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: In the off season, Scott Frost comes over from UCF.

678
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: He is coming home, so to speak, to Lincoln, Nebraska.

679
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: He is taking over as the new head football coach

680
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: for Big Red. He can potentially, potentially, now potentially create

681
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: a huge, huge counterbalance in the Big Ten West, not

682
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: only to Wisconsin, not just this year, but okay, moving forward,

683
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: a huge counterbalance to Wisconsin. Not just to Wisconsin, but

684
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: to the entire Big Ten East, which I think until

685
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: now has largely been viewed as the dominant side of

686
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: the Big Ten conference.

687
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

688
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: If you can start to bring the whole conference into equilibrium,

689
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: Dan or a greater state of equilibrium that makes the

690
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Big Ten as a whole, I think a much much

691
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: more interesting conference.

692
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: Agree.

693
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: The reason that I throw Scott Frost in the ring

694
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: is because I want to talk about the schedule before

695
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: the Cornhuskers in this twenty eighteen season.

696
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: But who sang the coming Home song? I've had it

697
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: in my head since you said it about Scott Frost,

698
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: I believe is there It is?

699
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: Skyler Gray? Yeah, wow, good job, thank you. That's what

700
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about here.

701
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: Right when you least expect me playing that song when

702
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: we bring up Scott Frost during the season all season long, Wham,

703
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: there it is.

704
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: I bring this up kind of in the same vein

705
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Speaker 1: as some of our Chad Morris discussion earlier this year,

706
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: where we don't necessarily think Arkansas is going to go

707
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: on in a kind of title run in the SEC

708
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: or nationally.

709
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: But hold on writing this down, we're sort of expecting

710
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: saw not on title bet on Arkansas.

711
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: That's what that means. Yeah, But I think there is

712
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: enough potential here for Nebraska to put the pieces together

713
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: to knock off one of these presumed Titans in the

714
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: Big Ten and affect the way we view the Big

715
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Ten come late November.

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Speaker 2: Rank the upset ability yeah, of Nebraska versus Big Ten powers.

717
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Speaker 1: So let me go through this Nebraska versus Michigan games

718
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: at Michigan end of September.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, well, I just Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan State.

720
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Speaker 2: I'm just asking you to rank the most to least

721
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: likely that situation where Nebraska upsets them. I think Michigan

722
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 2: wins that game.

723
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Speaker 1: I think Michigan wins that game. I think, as I

724
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: look at this here very quickly at first blush, I

725
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: think Nebraska over Michigan State the week before Thanksgiving games

726
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: in Lincoln. I think that's probably the best chance of it.

727
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

728
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Speaker 1: I'm very curious, though, very curious to see what happens

729
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: in early November. A very tough spot going to the

730
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: Horseshoe against Ohio State. However, that's like Nebraska's national show.

731
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: Was after a bye week. That's true.

732
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, after bye week. That's like Nebraska's national championship. So

733
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying so, I'm just saying I feel like

734
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: there is gonna be a game in here when Nebraska

735
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: pulls an upset because Scott Frost gets creative, he gets

736
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: his troops assembled. And maybe it doesn't happen for him

737
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: this year going ten to two, but eight and four,

738
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: seven and five, even with like a just a big

739
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: upset in there could be enough I think to make

740
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: him pivotal not only in this season but in every

741
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: season moving forward where he remains as the braske head

742
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Speaker 1: football coach.

743
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Speaker 2: So I would say most to least likely. I'd say

744
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: most likely he upsets Michigan because again, Michigan won't be

745
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: able to score thirty points. If Nebraska offense is at

746
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: least rolling in it's a shootout. Least likely, I would

747
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: say at Ohio State. Second, least likely Wisconsin, both of

748
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: those on the road. Second, most likely Michigan State. So

749
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: i'd the Michigan schools first, Michigan. Michigan State's on the road.

750
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Speaker 2: It's going to be cold and gross, and East Lansing

751
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: and oh no excuse me, and even in Lincoln it's

752
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: going to be cold and gross in late November. So

753
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say at Michigan, Michigan State, at Wisconsin,

754
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: at Ohio State in that order.

755
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Speaker 1: Do you agree with the selection as a whole, with

756
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Speaker 1: Scott Frost's for twenty eighteen for twenty eighteen, not twenty

757
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty eighteen.

758
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 2: No, not necessarily, Not because Scott Frost is too famous

759
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: and too mainstream for my hipster college football tastes, but

760
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: just because it's going to take a year, just because

761
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: I like his coaching staff, I like some of the

762
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: talent on hand. I'm a believer that he is going

763
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Speaker 2: to get talent to Lincoln within the context of talent

764
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 2: that would want to come to Lincoln. Okay, that isn't

765
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: necessarily nearby, but that's going to Michigan in two Wisconsin

766
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: and to Ohio State in his first year installing everything

767
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: on both sides of the field. I think that's too

768
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: much task for all.

769
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, let me let me do one more here

770
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: and then you can close it out with two of

771
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: your own.

772
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: Okay, go for it.

773
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna stay on the coaching side of

774
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: the fence here, not gonna go head coach because I

775
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: guess that's not hipster enough for you, Daniel.

776
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: It's not. It never is.

777
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: But let's go back to the big twelve. Let's go

778
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the football. And let's talk

779
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: a little bit about West Virginia. Okay, I meant it

780
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: when I said it that the Big twelves a little

781
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: bit up for grabs this year. It feels like there's

782
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: a lot of turnover. Not quite sure where things could go, right.

783
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because of the new quarterback situation across

784
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: the conference.

785
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about Tony Gibson.

786
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: Okay, West Virginia quarterback on that team.

787
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: But yes, defensive coordinator, you're right, Will Greer comes back.

788
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: If he stays healthy, he and David Sills can continue

789
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: forging that bond doing amazing things in the passing game.

790
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about West Virginia's offense. I never really am.

791
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: They've got seven starters back on offense, They're going to

792
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: be fine. Where I'm particularly interested is on defense, where

793
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: they also have seven more starters back. I think West

794
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: Virginia could be a top ten team if again, the

795
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: offense performs at the level I think we expect and

796
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: we get something from that West Virginia defense. If we

797
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: get something from that West Virginia defense, we saw it

798
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: a couple years ago. But they're very disruptive on the

799
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball created a lot of plays

800
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: with their defensive backfield. I want to see what Tony

801
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: Gibson can put together in twenty eighteen. I think if

802
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: they can be disruptive on that side of the football,

803
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: given all the turnover that we're going to see around

804
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, particularly on offense, this defense at West

805
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: Virginia could really be an X factor, could propel the

806
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: Mountaineers to something I don't know, something we haven't seen

807
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: from them in quite some time during the Dana Holgerson era.

808
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Man, I think West Virginia's defense is gonna be torched.

809
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: I do.

810
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying if if they can get anything

811
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: together seven returning starters, if he can pull it together,

812
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: would that or would that not be a truly pivotal

813
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: story in twenty eighteen.

814
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know where that number specifically comes from,

815
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: and obviously there are starters who start a couple games

816
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: where you can include that. But they lost a couple

817
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: dudes that they were counting on for serious playing time

818
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: along the defensive line to transfer. A couple of linebackers

819
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: got hurt. They're replacing both corners and we expect big

820
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: twelve offenses to at least be competent. And I am

821
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: just I believe with my whole heart and soul and

822
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: brain that West Virginia will beat a team that they

823
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't and they'll beat them forty five to forty

824
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: one or something like that. They'll be really fun and

825
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: we get a bunch of crazy gifts of will greor

826
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: running around making faces and having a good time. I

827
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: believe that. I just think they're going to lose two

828
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: to five of those as well, because I don't think

829
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: to compete in the Big twelve. To even just be

830
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: competent in the Big twelve on defense, you just you

831
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: have to have things going for you. And I don't

832
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: see West Virginia's defense as a team. And this I

833
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: think speaks to why this is a correct answer of

834
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: choosing Tony Gibson as a pivotal name here. I just

835
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: talent wise, attrition wise. I don't think West virginia Is

836
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: defense has a ton going for it. So if they're

837
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: able to muster something, sure, but I think it'd be

838
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: a miracle. And this is not a take, This is

839
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: not me trying to rile people up. I think it's

840
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: a miracle. If West Virginia wins eight games, I think

841
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: everything has to go perfectly. They just feel like a

842
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: seven and five, six and six team to me, And

843
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: that's not being kind but being at least having a

844
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: little bit of optimism. All Right, I think they got burnt.

845
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: Well, it wouldn't be anything new if they got burnt.

846
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: That's true, quite frankly, that's what we're used to Dan.

847
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, if he can spin any kind

848
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: of gold, now.

849
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: It's true, he's done it before.

850
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: Out of whatever returning experience they have, I think it

851
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: makes West Virginia potentially a top ten team given that

852
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: offense and who knows. As we look in the Big twelve.

853
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: They bring in Kenny Bigelow. Do you remember that name?

854
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

855
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: Sure, he was like a recruiting with two thousand and four,

856
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 2: got hurt a bunch of times at USC.

857
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

858
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: I think he grew up on the same team or

859
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 2: same seven on seven team as David Sills, so it's

860
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: been a journey for both of them. I don't know

861
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: how you can be as old as Kenny Bigelow and

862
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: still go by Kenny like he just has to be

863
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: a Ken big.

864
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: Well, you made the Danny to Dan switch at some

865
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: point around college for any day of college. Kenny bigel

866
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: apparently never.

867
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: Did Kenneth Bigelow. Yeah all right, yeah, but you know what,

868
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: if he's really good, that speaks to your hypothesis.

869
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: Where are we going next? Now? I see you've got

870
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: two players here, Yes, that you've listed. One, by the way,

871
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: is not very hipster.

872
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: I agree. I don't know which one you're talking about,

873
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: because these.

874
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: Are the second one here on this not very hipster.

875
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: I thought IM like this one as well.

876
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Joe Burrow, who is not hipster, even

877
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: though he is getting hype without actually doing anything, which

878
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: feels like a very hipster thing.

879
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: So now I have a question for you.

880
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: All right, I have an answer, potentially.

881
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: I think it goes without saying that that my nicknames

882
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: that I have put forth here over the last couple

883
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: of seasons have really been solid gold.

884
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm still not on board with Duke of Hazzard Alan Wizard,

885
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 2: but okay.

886
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Duke of Hazzard Alan Wizard had major staying power.

887
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: It's so many words.

888
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: EQ causing treble. That was instant gold, Dan.

889
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, people are all just lining the streets with that one.

890
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: When you think of the word burrow, what do you

891
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: think of.

892
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 2: I don't like a groundhog or something right burrowing into

893
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: the ground.

894
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: So what if instead of Joe Burrow we just went

895
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: Joe dirt in twenty eighteen, would that be a thing

896
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: we could do?

897
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

898
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe dirt.

899
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: It's it's clean, it's quick, it's and that might be

900
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: like LSU's national championship aspirations over cleanly, quickly. Joe Burrow

901
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: aka Joe Dirt, I think is good. Thank But generally

902
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: we give nicknames to people who have proven worthy of

903
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: being nicknamed.

904
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Right, generally speaking, that is correct.

905
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So Joe Burrow to catch everybody up if

906
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 2: you have not, if you've been burying your head under

907
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: the burrowing your head. Thank you, ty, thank you very much,

908
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: Thank you. ASMR crackle crackle. Joe Burrow is a grad

909
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: transfer from Ohio State who showed potential during the spring

910
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: game for Ohio State. Everybody seems to like him. He

911
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: graduated in three years, so he has a couple of

912
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 2: years of eligibility for LSU. Was a grad transfer is

913
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: on campus now, I believe, and immediately eligible because he's

914
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: a grad transfer. Steps into a situation without a clear

915
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: cut starting quarterback. They have a couple of decent recruits,

916
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: and you know, Miles Brennan played in some games last

917
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: year but didn't show enough to warrant not going after

918
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: a grad transfer quarterback, and so Joe Burrow, talent, likable

919
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 2: whatever from Ohio will be immediately thrown into the fire.

920
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: They have Miami Week one. I want to say in Arlington.

921
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm about ninety three percent sure that's true. They go

922
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: to Auburn, they go to Florida, and I believe the

923
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: week after Florida they are playing Georgia, so they will

924
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: he will see fast, aggressive, angry NFL Leiden defenses sooner

925
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: rather than later. And this is all with a new

926
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: coordinator and Steve Enzinger, I hope I pronounced that correctly,

927
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: who took over a couple of years ago on an

928
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: interim basis. And everybody's saying, Oh, they're gonna They're They're

929
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: opening up the offense, They're gonna throw downfield a lot more.

930
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: They add Jonathan Giles, the promising albeit not huge receiver

931
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: from Texas Tech. The big surprise to me about Lsu

932
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 2: is that he is not going to have a year

933
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: over year, there's a new guy who's a new star

934
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: running back like Texas should have, like LSU should have,

935
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: But after Darius Guice, after Leonard Fournette, there just isn't

936
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: that obvious dude to take over and take some of

937
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: the weight off of Joe Burrow's shoulders. So to me,

938
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: if Joe Burrow is good, and I know they've recruited

939
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: a couple of decent receivers recently, Teris Marshall's the newest one.

940
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: If he is good, that means his line, which does

941
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: have some experience, That means the receivers and past catchers

942
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: that he's throwing to, that means somebody's emerging at running back.

943
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: Then LSU can win nine game. But there are so

944
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: many variables and Joe Burrow not throwing a meaningful college

945
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 2: pass and stepping into a pretty crazy situation schedule wise,

946
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: is feels like a pivotal name for me. Ty Yeah, just.

947
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: Does Joe Burrow Joe Dirt? Thank you? Yeah? I look,

948
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback position at LSU is up there with Florida,

949
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: It's up there with other schools where the natural impulse

950
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: is to say, well, they're just they're just a quarterback away.

951
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: Whether or not they all right, whether or not that's

952
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: true in reality, remains to be seen. But Joe Burrow

953
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: is an interesting case just because he comes in with

954
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: a lot of promise. He comes from Ohio State. You

955
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: said it a couple of weeks ago. He's gotta be good,

956
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: gotta be Joe Dirt. Come on, well, we'll wait and see.

957
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: We'll wait and see. Can't any worse than what they've

958
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: been trotten out there the last couple of years. LSU

959
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: hasn't had a serviceable quarterback since.

960
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: Like Zach Mettenberger, man, you your slander of Danny Etling

961
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: is not going to go unanswered to. Danny Etling was

962
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,479
Speaker 2: pretty good last year.

963
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: He's okay, pretty okay.

964
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: He was pretty good anyway.

965
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Joe Dirt, Joe Dirt. Who's our last pivotal

966
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: name here?

967
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: Final player? One of my favorite names, just because it's

968
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: a fun name to say, but also because he is

969
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 2: probably one of the three best pass rushers in the country.

970
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: Cleveland Ferrell, Cleveland Ferrell, Cleveland, Cleveland, The Cleveland Show. Cleveland

971
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: Ferrell defensive end for Clemson. Just a maniac, a monster

972
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: in the backfields, A should be one of the first

973
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 2: two or three pass rushers off the board in next

974
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: year's draft. Has not been at Clemson terribly long, but

975
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: he has a very specific luxury tie of having the

976
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: best probably defensive tackle duo next to him in Christian

977
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence. So it feels right that he

978
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: is going to be I mean, and alongside Austin Bryan

979
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: on the other side of the defensive line is just

980
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 2: going to be trouble ty. He is just going to

981
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: be trouble And the reason I went with him over Lawrence,

982
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: over Brian, over Wilkins, who are all excellent and could

983
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: all go in the first round next year of the

984
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: NFL Draft, is because of his ability, specifically to get

985
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: to the quarterback with the quarterback questions that Clemson has

986
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: of their own that he will keep, and he will

987
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: probably do more to finish off plays even if the

988
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: interior part of that line is collapsing the pocket and

989
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: forcing sacks to him. I think he is going to

990
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: do more to worry quarterbacks. I think he is going

991
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: to do more to get offenses behind schedule, behind the chains,

992
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: and that in turn should give Clemson's offense even if

993
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: they're inconsistent with a true freshman. Even if Kelly Bryant

994
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: is not what he probably probably should look like given

995
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: what he looked like at times last year. It gives

996
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: them more shots, it gives them more opportunities to get

997
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: into a rhythm. And there's just something that scary about

998
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: a pass rusher with Cleveland Ferrell's ability. So that's why

999
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: I am and this is a defense chock fowl. Let

1000
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: me Kendall. Joseph is great. We mentioned the defensive line.

1001
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: There's guys everywhere, but his sacking ability, and we talked

1002
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: about gravity a little bit last year. Defensively, I think

1003
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: he may have the most gravity on that team. Just

1004
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: because you have plans. He doesn't care. And that's Cleveland Ferrell.

1005
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland Ferrell, Yeah.

1006
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: Cleveland Ferrell.

1007
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: There you go, Cleveland Ferrell and Joe Dirt closing us

1008
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: out here on the nineteen most pivotal people for the

1009
00:53:54,680 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen college football season. One notable name is Missy here. Dan,

1010
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: we're only up to eighteen.

1011
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: Oh, can I guess let's go with we already mentioned

1012
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: Adam A Memes. We're not gonna go with that. I'm

1013
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: stump ty. I don't know Steve Sarkisian. He's always good

1014
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: for a laugh.

1015
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: Listen, it's got to be the solid verbal.

1016
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 2: It's the solid verbal.

1017
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: It's got to be the solid verbal. We're the ones

1018
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: putting this show out.

1019
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: That's true.

1020
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: A prime number nineteen. Your name's for the twenty eighteen

1021
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: college football season. So if you exclude us from this list,

1022
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: which you never should, I'm going to read through the

1023
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: list very quickly. Today we did Michigan's offensive line, Kyler Murray,

1024
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: JT Daniels, Cleveland Ferrell, Alexander mad Dog Madison, Joe Burrow

1025
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: aka Joe Dirt, Scott Frost, Tony Gibson, herb hand and

1026
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for Georgia Tech, Nate Woodie. Those names, in

1027
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: addition to Clark Lee, Charles Chip, Kelly, Chico mcclatcher, DeAndre Swift,

1028
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: Malcolm Perry, Marcus Arroyo, which somebody made fun of me

1029
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: for the way I say.

1030
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: That, Arroyo. It's arroyo, ah royo. No, No, not a

1031
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: row roy Arroyo, Royo, arroyo. Thank you, Derek Dooley and

1032
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: Ricky Ronnie. To close out your nineteen most pivotal people

1033
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: for the twenty eighteen college football season. Yeah, so now

1034
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: you're just gonna waste away your night listening to and

1035
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: watching some ASMR.

1036
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: That's correct. Yeah, I need to I need well, I

1037
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: was gonna say I need to get on this, but

1038
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: I need to expect further to see what I'm missing here.

1039
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: See if this is a real thing.

1040
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: It's going to change your life and not necessarily for

1041
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: the good.

1042
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: All right, Well, on that note, don't forget to email

1043
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: in Suliverble at gmail dot com let us know your

1044
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: thoughts on the On the list, we had somebody emailing

1045
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: with Brian Farrence, which is a pivotal name for Yeah,

1046
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 1: it's pretty good Iowa football. Maybe not for a college

1047
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: football landscape as a whole, but you can make cases

1048
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, certainly that weren't on our list.

1049
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: We'd encourage you to email and tweet in let us

1050
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: know what you think. We are gearing up here for

1051
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: the college football season at Solid Verbal HQ. Don't forget

1052
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,479
Speaker 1: to join the newsletter if you want more information about

1053
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,840
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1054
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: we're going to put out there within a matter of

1055
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: days now, about our upcoming website, and anything else that

1056
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,120
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1057
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,239
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1058
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:45,000
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1059
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,880
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1060
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,200
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1061
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: because we'll be here for the remainder of the offseason,

1062
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: of course, all throughout the regular season.

1063
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: I really hope we're on Silk Road as well.

1064
00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: Silk Crow.

1065
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 2: That's right, Saturday, August eleventh, By the way, Live Show

1066
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,480
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1067
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,760
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1069
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: On that note, for that guy over there in beautiful

1070
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: New York City, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, For myself

1071
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: over here in trusty Allentown, Pennsylvania, thanks again for tuning in.

1072
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: We will catch you all in a week. In the meantime,

1073
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: stay solid