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Speaker 1: Give us a preview once we finally flatten the curve

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Speaker 1: here and reopen the economy about how this is going

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Speaker 1: to change the U. S and China's relationship. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna change it, obviously, because we're learning about

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Speaker 1: more and more about the origins. Well, the Executive Branch

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Speaker 1: is investigating the origins of China's UH handling and mishandling

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Speaker 1: of this. The intelligence community, the Defense Department, the State Department.

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Speaker 1: You've heard Secretary Pompeo, they are investigating the origins and

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Speaker 1: the American people deserve answers. There's over fifty thousand Americans

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Speaker 1: who have lost their lives as a result of this UM.

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Speaker 1: We've borrowed three trillion dollars and growing to the national debt,

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Speaker 1: added that to the national debt. Obviously, the economic chaos

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Speaker 1: that's resulted and the upheaval that has resulted as significance.

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Speaker 1: So it's been a huge cost to the American way

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Speaker 1: of life, and the American people deserved UH to have answers,

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Speaker 1: and it possible be reimbursed for some of the costs

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Speaker 1: that we have incurred. And so like my view is that, UH,

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Speaker 1: certainly it's appropriate for the executive branch and these intelligence

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Speaker 1: agencies to be investigating, but so should the Congress. So

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Speaker 1: we are the elected representatives of the American people. The

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Speaker 1: American people deserve to have answers. And the more you

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Speaker 1: look at China's conduct and the Chinese Communist Party's conduct

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Speaker 1: UM in December when the first outbreak occurred, UH, and

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Speaker 1: the more you look at the cover up in January,

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Speaker 1: the more you realize that there was some real malign conduct.

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Speaker 1: We don't know all the details, we shouldn't jump to

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Speaker 1: any conclusions, but certainly we should investigate it so that

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Speaker 1: we can hold China accountable.