Speaker 1: It's nine O gen one with Jenny Garth and Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: Mary. Christmas. Everybody, welcome to another episode of nine to
Speaker 2: two one. Omg, we are so excited to be with you.
Speaker 3: You got your hoe to your hoe to your hoe.
Speaker 3: One ho ho ho.
Speaker 4: You're in Christmas red.
Speaker 3: Am genziness, which you're already but here Mary and Bright
Speaker 3: She's marry too. I'm Mary, and I'm Bright and Jen
Speaker 3: You're Bright, the endless flame that never gets put out.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Mary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, stop, Amy, I know where you're going and
Speaker 2: let us do our job first. Okay, you guys, this
Speaker 2: is so cool because not only is it Christmas for us,
Speaker 2: but it's Christmas for our pals in Beverly Hills. This
Speaker 2: is the Christmas episode, Season five, episode fifteen. Christmas comes
Speaker 2: each time this year. Aired December twenty first, nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 4: How about that it's Christmas like it's Christmas and it's Christmas.
Speaker 3: And the Christmas synopsis is you get it to us? Yep.
Speaker 3: Donna's mom tries to pay Ray to disappear, leaving Donna
Speaker 3: drowning in tears. Kelly is having a hard time accepting
Speaker 3: Brandon's love and attention. Dylan seeks help from the FBI
Speaker 3: but finds a familiar face at the bureau. Steve thinks
Speaker 3: he has a Christmas curse, and Claire can't come clean
Speaker 3: to her dad about David.
Speaker 2: Directed by Richard Lang, written by The wasser Cline, Steve Wasserman,
Speaker 2: and Jessa Klein. Well, this episode made me feel that
Speaker 2: he's getting the spirit. I'll tell you that, even with
Speaker 2: your mopiness there, Kelly, Yeah, even with my even with
Speaker 2: my scar my bird Oh my gosh, yeah, it blurred.
Speaker 3: I was like, Jen's not mopey now, it all blurs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so much to discuss, so much.
Speaker 2: Well, let's just start with the first thing we see,
Speaker 2: which is basically you and Donna and Ray eating each
Speaker 2: other's faces off in Mom's living room.
Speaker 3: I don't know where you're going with that. You get
Speaker 3: so riled up when I have an open mouth kiss
Speaker 3: because it's like, let me live my life out on
Speaker 3: camera open, there's tongue flying.
Speaker 4: It was a lot, Tori.
Speaker 2: Was you can't say that wasn't like aggressive making out.
Speaker 4: Yeah hmm.
Speaker 3: In my defense, we needed it to be over the
Speaker 3: top so that Folice, I mean your heard smacking, gross
Speaker 3: and clear across the room. But if it was just
Speaker 3: a pack, Folice wouldn't be as riled up. Like she's
Speaker 3: probably like, oh my gosh, what's happening next? Like I
Speaker 3: don't know, like maybe she's worried I'm going to lose
Speaker 3: it to him. Oh right, you know a cherry on
Speaker 3: top of the Christmas tree this year.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Well she noticed, alrighty, but uh, you
Speaker 2: told your mother you were going to marry Ray Rutt.
Speaker 4: I know, I know. I was like, oh, sona, Donna,
Speaker 4: I felt it.
Speaker 3: I felt it.
Speaker 2: You guys as as Donna. You felt like you were
Speaker 2: so in love with him in this moment you were
Speaker 2: going to marry him.
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like we're all in that
Speaker 3: moment sometimes in life and there's that moment in that
Speaker 3: first like honeymoon phase, super passionate, super like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: this is everything that you're not thinking clearly and clearly.
Speaker 3: You just you marry. Sometimes you jump in and marry them. Well,
Speaker 3: we've both been there, yep.
Speaker 2: I've been there, done that.
Speaker 4: Twenty years old. I'm going to well about that age too, ye.
Speaker 4: So fair.
Speaker 2: If he asked me to marry him today, I would
Speaker 2: marry him.
Speaker 4: Maybe she just is.
Speaker 3: Okay, this sounds gross to me even saying it, but
Speaker 3: she's a girl, and I always feel like guys can
Speaker 3: be horny, but girls can't be horny. Is there like
Speaker 3: a feminine version of that?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think Donna was horny. I don't think
Speaker 2: that was where the statement was coming from.
Speaker 3: Not I understand, but I'm sure on some level females
Speaker 3: can feel passionate too. And I feel like she, you know,
Speaker 3: wants to marry him emotion wise, her heart's like in it,
Speaker 3: but she also is probably like, I'm going to marry
Speaker 3: him and we're gonna consummate this relationship and we're gonna babies,
Speaker 3: and you know, she's she's in it.
Speaker 2: Yet I wanted to help her.
Speaker 4: If you had a mom like that, oh might want
Speaker 4: to get away too. Yeah, she's this all time low.
Speaker 4: I thought she reached her lowest lows and.
Speaker 2: She loved you so much. She is willing to part
Speaker 2: with ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Guy, I don't think it's love. I think she wants
Speaker 4: to control Donna Martin.
Speaker 1: Duh.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a good amount even for the nineties.
Speaker 3: Ten grand pretty solid and offer, Yeah for a kid,
Speaker 3: I think for that, I just don't. I can't gauge
Speaker 3: how much the Martins have, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2: But how do you put a price tag on Donna
Speaker 2: Martin's head or her woo woo, or her virginity or
Speaker 2: her heart or soul or that too?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: Fine? Gross?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 4: Like in all seriousness gross? Gross, so gross that she
Speaker 4: goes and says she's so gross about it too with
Speaker 4: the tree lot and like, did you notice she doesn't
Speaker 4: really say it outwardly, Like she doesn't say like, hey,
Speaker 4: I'll give you ten grand to get lost. She's so
Speaker 4: like dark and just awful about it. That was her
Speaker 4: that really actually disgusted me.
Speaker 2: Well rightly, so yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 4: It's just like and then Donna's dad is such a
Speaker 4: sweet angel. He's so mad, but I wanted to see
Speaker 4: him be more mad at missus Martin.
Speaker 3: Like he doesn't get mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like a doormat that guy. Sorry to say that,
Speaker 2: he does whatever police tells him to do.
Speaker 3: Mm feel like he actually doesn't.
Speaker 2: Oh, he gets up in her face later in the
Speaker 2: in the episode, he's like, I mean, what the hell
Speaker 2: have you done?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It was this whole episode, I mean everything all the
Speaker 2: episodes now are starting to feel really dramatic.
Speaker 4: Yes, Jenny like soapy. There was a lot of heightened emotions,
Speaker 4: not warranted when we talk about Dylan. Especially with Dylan,
Speaker 4: I was like, what.
Speaker 2: But wait, let's go back to the beginning. Because the
Speaker 2: Walsh mom and dad, what are they are going to
Speaker 2: see the daughter? That's never been mentioned, hardly ever been mentioned.
Speaker 2: They're like, they're going to London to be with her
Speaker 2: for Christmas?
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I always feel like they fling in a
Speaker 1: curse when she come home. Great question, uh but you
Speaker 1: know that answer she didn't want to.
Speaker 4: And also how about mister Walls using profanity he couldn't
Speaker 4: find his damn passport? It was hot.
Speaker 3: What about Brandon saying they might think you're a terrorist
Speaker 3: on the.
Speaker 4: Oh, that was weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can't say you can't say like that
Speaker 2: these days, Brandon totally.
Speaker 3: I literally went back and I was like, wait, what
Speaker 3: year will you're Oh my god, like it was yeh
Speaker 3: we're nine to eleven, Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Like yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, if we were to break this episode down, we
Speaker 2: have Donna's and Ray's storyline, we have Brandon and Kelly.
Speaker 4: We have Dylan and unhinged Dylan, Dylan and.
Speaker 2: Weird guy and.
Speaker 4: We sort of.
Speaker 2: And the Chrysanta Claus of it all, and then sort of.
Speaker 4: A peach Pit after Dark slash.
Speaker 3: I'm in now because I know it's coming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we sort of got a bit of Claire David
Speaker 4: in different ways, like Claire David in the peach Pit
Speaker 4: after Dark, Claire David with the Chancellor. Then we had
Speaker 4: the the sort of we're feeding needy people at the
Speaker 4: peach Pit. There there was sort of a mess of
Speaker 4: stuff happening.
Speaker 2: A lot going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh huh.
Speaker 2: The only one, like the only like solid storylines I
Speaker 2: felt like were Donna's and Kelly's and Brandon's.
Speaker 4: Dylan Dylan had a storyline, but he was so.
Speaker 2: Huh, I can't get it, Christine FBI like that okay,
Speaker 2: who killed at the FBI man First of all, Okay,
Speaker 2: my point is he's like screaming at a secret service
Speaker 2: agent or what I for that guy was, And then
Speaker 2: cut to the end of the show, he just lets
Speaker 2: some strange, wild, crazy, weird man into his house and
Speaker 2: lets him eat his donuts. Like what, there's no balance,
Speaker 2: what's happening? That's not when he let that guy in.
Speaker 2: At the end, I was like, Dylan would never let
Speaker 2: that guy in, especially how aggravated he was at the
Speaker 2: other guy.
Speaker 4: Not only that, but when he goes into the FBI
Speaker 4: and is completely unhinged yelling, they actually let him see
Speaker 4: get an appointment. Yeah, I don't think he's Jack McKay's son.
Speaker 4: The receptionist is like, oh, Jack mckay'son. Oh, send him
Speaker 4: right back?
Speaker 1: Like what.
Speaker 3: Wait? Can I drive jet? Do you like Christine? The
Speaker 3: name Christine Pettitt? We had a writer? Was that me? Okay,
Speaker 3: do you know what I'm talking about? I might be
Speaker 3: remembering this wrong. Was her name not Christine Pettitt or
Speaker 3: was it something Pettit? I feel like it's her name,
Speaker 3: and they they used it because they.
Speaker 2: Could, And she said, okay, no, no, I don't know,
Speaker 2: can help you there, but it does sound familiar. And
Speaker 2: then are the Lovely Valerie.
Speaker 4: Was back on and she was headed to cold Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Oh not that Valerie, the very wild Vale.
Speaker 4: Oh right right right, sorry, Valley Valerie Wildman.
Speaker 2: Yes, Valerie Wildman as Christine so beautiful, she's great, geez
Speaker 2: it's hot. Yeah, And I like, yes, I kind of
Speaker 2: wanted them to get together. That would be a villain
Speaker 2: and Jack's old lady.
Speaker 4: It would have been a great twist. Wait, wait, have
Speaker 4: so many things to ask you guys.
Speaker 2: Wait, but Valerie was barely in this one again?
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, she's off to Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Cool, she's going below for the holidays.
Speaker 3: Why why do you think they did that? JN What?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had no storyline for her. I don't know
Speaker 2: they had no Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing. You're paying a series regular,
Speaker 3: why ship were off for the episode? Just have her there? Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, this makes me ask a weird question. Of course,
Speaker 4: was she paid? Like to me, she's low man on
Speaker 4: the totem pole, right, even though they brought her in
Speaker 4: she was famous. It's was she paid the least? Like
Speaker 4: would she be the first to not have a storyline
Speaker 4: if the episode got too clogged up?
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. If you're paid, you're paid. It's not
Speaker 3: about how much. So she's in it. She's paid so
Speaker 3: she can be in one scene, you know.
Speaker 4: Oh god, it's the same.
Speaker 3: Thing for them, so might as well use your regulars. Like,
Speaker 3: I don't understand, right, that's a good point. They probably
Speaker 3: Like I was bummed not to see her like, I'm
Speaker 3: bummed officially at this point when I don't see Valerie
Speaker 3: as much because she she gets the look, she gets
Speaker 3: the really yes, she stirs up.
Speaker 4: It was a welcome like I realize. I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't like how she's sort of it's very weird to
Speaker 4: me with Dylan, so just said it gets real.
Speaker 2: Like again like Opie, with the way they're writing her
Speaker 2: character just be so conniving and so I mean, I
Speaker 2: know it's juicy, and like every show needs an antagonist,
Speaker 2: but I understand what you're saying, Amy, you kind of
Speaker 2: enjoyed a little break from the mind.
Speaker 4: That sort of we had enough with Dylan being kind
Speaker 4: of a mess that I sort of didn't need any
Speaker 4: more menacing people, kind of pausing problems.
Speaker 3: Everyone needs a villain, true, A show can't go on
Speaker 3: without a villain.
Speaker 4: I think we had so much drama happening. We've got
Speaker 4: Kelly's got drama, Andrea's all got drama, unnecessary baby drama.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh my gosh, okay, okay. When Jesse took that
Speaker 2: baby out of Andrea's hands when it was crying, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh no, he's gonna shake the baby. Did
Speaker 2: shake that baby? Out of his hands. Didn't he seem
Speaker 2: like way too upset to just rip the baby out.
Speaker 3: Of her hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was also way too upset about a baby.
Speaker 2: He was very upset about the baby crying.
Speaker 4: All during midnight, Like at midnight. He was so mad
Speaker 4: that the baby was crying at church at midnight, Like,
Speaker 4: what baby's not crying at church?
Speaker 2: I was yelling at the TV Andrea, I don't just
Speaker 2: stand there. Take the baby back, like, get that baby,
Speaker 2: because she just stands there. And it's like.
Speaker 3: But here, I mean, here's the thing. We all know this,
Speaker 3: Like you don't know how you're going to be as
Speaker 3: a parent. And I'm sure that wasn't his choice, but
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that can't handle that.
Speaker 4: I think they're trying to make a storyline out of that.
Speaker 3: They have different nothings.
Speaker 4: Oh thank you, Tory. No, that's right.
Speaker 2: It's like they have different religious backgrounds, they have different
Speaker 2: like holiday traditions. They're just they have different parenting styles.
Speaker 2: Things are not looking good over there. Yeah, till the
Speaker 2: whole gang comes over for Christmas. I really enjoyed that moment,
Speaker 2: but it was, yeah, it was real. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good moment. Don is definitely bonding
Speaker 4: with Ray's mom. Now that, by the way, tell me
Speaker 4: we all didn't appreciate the Princess cruise love boat.
Speaker 2: Reference love boat tie.
Speaker 3: Of course, little Grid have my shrimp and sipping on champagne.
Speaker 2: But that's crazy. You're giving giving I mean, I get it.
Speaker 2: You're giving away Felsa's dirty money and sending his mom
Speaker 2: on the cruise. That's humongous.
Speaker 3: It's a big step. That's Oh.
Speaker 4: I suppose we're to assume that Ray cash the check then,
Speaker 4: because the check was in his name, so they cash,
Speaker 4: he cash? He did cash?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was after Donna said he didn't cash.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm too I'm too close, closely related to
Speaker 3: this in every way. So can you can you explain
Speaker 3: to me, like how you felt about that, Like, wait,
Speaker 3: what what do you mean I'm cashing to give it
Speaker 3: to his mom? I felt like that was all Donna's idea.
Speaker 4: Same same Jenny. I felt fine about it because she
Speaker 4: insisted upon it. That was it was her choice.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Donna wants to make him happy.
Speaker 4: Do you think they're you're buying their love?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I guess it's like you're
Speaker 3: supposed to say like no, no, thank you very much,
Speaker 3: and the third time you're supposed to be like okay
Speaker 3: and accept it. I don't know, that's like a myth.
Speaker 2: She was like yay, Curis immediately upon opening it.
Speaker 3: I just I don't know somewhere deep down, and maybe
Speaker 3: this is like a personal thing because I feel like
Speaker 3: when I was younger, guys would like me for my
Speaker 3: dad's money. So it's like a triggering thing. It's overuse worse. Sorry,
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I wish he had said no, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'll work, we'll work together and get my
Speaker 3: mama cruise somehow. Let's not do that.
Speaker 4: I don't know he did, though, So I get what
Speaker 4: you're saying. And I also appreciate that it is triggering
Speaker 4: because it's there is sort of some challenging stuff in
Speaker 4: the here. But I think he said no, and then
Speaker 4: I think she's saying I'm so mad.
Speaker 3: At my mom.
Speaker 4: I basically just like walked out of there f this.
Speaker 4: Let's cash this check and get your mom what she wants.
Speaker 3: But she can't make him do it.
Speaker 4: She probably can, And I also think the Martins have
Speaker 4: a lot of money. So it's just peanuts today.
Speaker 2: So she's look at that staircase. You have that grand
Speaker 2: staircase in the foyer. It's very ritzy, like.
Speaker 4: If Dylan has eight millions, they definitely have millions. The
Speaker 4: Martins have millions.
Speaker 2: Okay, but from him being a doctor, that's maybe.
Speaker 4: There's family money too. Maybe there's family money that we
Speaker 4: don't Maybe police came in with a dowry. We don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he's like a doctor, like a facial doctor,
Speaker 2: surgeon plus surgeon. Yeah, maybe he's making that he's getting
Speaker 2: that Kardashian money.
Speaker 3: I believe he's a heart doctor because Joe, Am I wrong?
Speaker 3: Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: I think you're right.
Speaker 3: I just remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not making that much money being a
Speaker 2: heart doctor. I don't think.
Speaker 4: Maybe he has his own practing heart doctor at cedars
Speaker 4: in the world. Maybe he invented the pacemaker and we
Speaker 4: don't know it, right, so we don't know. I think
Speaker 4: we're to assume they've got a lot of dough.
Speaker 2: So that's he made you feel weird because your character
Speaker 2: was giving somebody's that you love's parent a mad massive gift.
Speaker 3: It made me feel like my whole life when I
Speaker 3: was trying to please someone and thought that I wasn't
Speaker 3: worth enough for them to like me for me, so
Speaker 3: I would think if I gave them a present or
Speaker 3: like my hard earned money. It wasn't even my parents
Speaker 3: that I worked hard for. So that's where it comes from.
Speaker 2: Well, go back to light and bright. No, I.
Speaker 3: I get that.
Speaker 2: Unpack that in therapy.
Speaker 3: That's all good, okay.
Speaker 4: I'm like all the buying. Everybody's buying each other right,
Speaker 4: Like she's trying to buy him off, and you take
Speaker 4: the money and buy you at your parents. And then
Speaker 4: there's a whole money thing going on with Dylan and
Speaker 4: he's so desperate to get his there's a lot of money, money,
Speaker 4: money things happening. So maybe and I and I.
Speaker 2: Don't think that's a very good dynamic to set up
Speaker 2: this young, immature relationship with Donna holding this you know,
Speaker 2: money position over him, like she has so much money. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I hate that. Oh he's never gonna feel like And.
Speaker 4: We know that Mom is already so enamored by it,
Speaker 4: because she's mentioned it multiple times in the previous episode,
Speaker 4: like you go and enjoy this time. And I wish
Speaker 4: I could drive up to Beverly Hills, like she's always
Speaker 4: there's definitely like a whole storyline there of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I guess it's feeling bad because Donn and
Speaker 3: I are so similar in so many ways, and I
Speaker 3: would never have done that or never do it, because
Speaker 3: while I'd be like, I want your mom to have
Speaker 3: this and you know, screw her for doing this, I
Speaker 3: would still at the end of the day be like,
Speaker 3: I respect my mom and not do it. So but
Speaker 3: it's interesting that it was written that way, so that
Speaker 3: obviously came up in conversation that perhaps I would do that.
Speaker 4: I think it was at that point in Fu to Felice, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like I know, you can't do an f
Speaker 3: you to your mom.
Speaker 4: You can. She did an f you by offering them
Speaker 4: the money.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. I would never.
Speaker 4: No, you wouldn't talk.
Speaker 3: I am Donna.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, really really need to get to that therapy.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I am Donna.
Speaker 3: I am Donna.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Something we're talking about Donna and we're like and she's
Speaker 4: like I was, I would live ever and we're like.
Speaker 3: Something, I mean by now from the rew like from
Speaker 3: rewatching this for five seasons now, we're starting to align
Speaker 3: stuff that I'm like, uh, okay, yeah that happened in
Speaker 3: real life. This is like they did this because of this.
Speaker 3: There was a lot going on that I didn't realize
Speaker 3: back then that maybe you know, they would do like
Speaker 3: pitch meetings and you know, work sessions, and my dad
Speaker 3: would be like, oh, this is happening, and this is
Speaker 3: happening in my teen and her friends, and like it's
Speaker 3: lining up a little bit too close to home.
Speaker 4: I understand for you, Tour, we don't have to dig
Speaker 4: into it too much. People using you like being your
Speaker 4: friend because you're Tori spelling, whether it was for money
Speaker 4: or maybe if I'm her best friend, her dad will
Speaker 4: get me a gig or like, I definitely relate. I
Speaker 4: don't relate personally, but I understand wondering what people sort
Speaker 4: of like, yeah, like what they're true motives. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm bummed seeing this because I'm like, I wish
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have done it. I wish his mom wouldn't
Speaker 3: have said yes, Like, I just want them to work out.
Speaker 3: At this point, I know I know what happens later,
Speaker 3: but I'm in the moment.
Speaker 4: Good crime scene, though you had good drama scene, and
Speaker 4: I thought.
Speaker 2: David a lot of drama.
Speaker 4: David and Claire were very good friends to you, even
Speaker 4: though it's still weird that David. That's still weird to me,
Speaker 4: but yet good. They were super supportive. And then Ray
Speaker 4: came and I actually thought that scene for being pretty
Speaker 4: heightened believable. M hmm, good scene. Like your crying was
Speaker 4: really good and you were yes, speaking of crying, Jenny
Speaker 4: one loan tear rolling, she's the best. How did you
Speaker 4: do that?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh, that's my trained tear drop?
Speaker 4: So were those real? Not those droppy things that you
Speaker 4: guys do to make you cry.
Speaker 2: Who knows what you do? Any scene and you can't
Speaker 2: get there, You're like, give me the blower, give me
Speaker 2: the drops, whatever it is.
Speaker 3: I feel like you're the best crier in the biz.
Speaker 3: She has a knack for it. It's real, Like it's good.
Speaker 4: That was a great scene too. I think this whole
Speaker 4: episode is other than Dylan that was we'll talk about that,
Speaker 4: but that felt very real and like, yeah, like Brandon
Speaker 4: seeing your back that we didn't realize is so burned
Speaker 4: and he didn't realize because you haven't shown and the
Speaker 4: vulnerability and the tear and in the bathroom and like.
Speaker 3: You were MOPy but that now I got it warranted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah he looked pretty grossed out though.
Speaker 4: I look sad. I thought he's just shocking bad like
Speaker 4: also maybe a little bit of regret, like he didn't realize.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah that's yeah.
Speaker 4: That was a great scene too, both those dramatic scenes.
Speaker 2: On Christmas in the Christmas episode so much drama?
Speaker 3: Would you guys have rather the Christmas episode be a
Speaker 3: like more light and bright. It's kind of the flip
Speaker 3: of what you think most Christmas things are about. Usually
Speaker 3: they're so like.
Speaker 2: Like this was like, yeah, honestly, I really could have
Speaker 2: used a little more levity in that in the Christmas episode.
Speaker 2: You know, I think you're right.
Speaker 4: Like the reason I liked it is that I didn't
Speaker 4: feel like I was getting a phoned in episode. I
Speaker 4: didn't feel like I was getting some.
Speaker 2: You know, Christmas episodes flash by.
Speaker 4: Actually Christmas, I still like corny thing. I felt like, Wow,
Speaker 4: I got a real episode where real crap is happening. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like this is real storyline, super meedy, Like, if you
Speaker 4: think about it, right, Jenny, your storyline super meedy, tory,
Speaker 4: your storyline, even Luke slash Dylan real stuff's happening, and
Speaker 4: even Jesse and Andrea, like every single storyline. The one
Speaker 4: thing is I don't understand why Claire is not telling
Speaker 4: the chancellor, Like why why why does the chancellor think
Speaker 4: she's dating Brandon? Like on what planet is that? Even
Speaker 4: what's what's going on? He still thinks that, Yes, that's
Speaker 4: why he's like, you should bring Brandon and you can
Speaker 4: invite your other friends, Kelly and Donna. Like, first of all,
Speaker 4: what dad, that's so rude, Like she's literally just invited
Speaker 4: in to her friend that's right there. Why would you
Speaker 4: not be like and this guy, this new David guy, Like.
Speaker 3: And also what why is she Yeah, maybe he knows
Speaker 3: it's not going to work out long runs, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they are together very long.
Speaker 4: But the change is so clinless, Like there's just a
Speaker 4: huge fire on his campus where you were badly burned,
Speaker 4: and like student it was a student led thing. She
Speaker 4: doesn't he doesn't know that the president of the school
Speaker 4: is dating.
Speaker 2: You the burn victim, right dumb, or that he's actually
Speaker 2: at the burn victim's house. It's like when he goes
Speaker 2: to see his daughter who's the roommate of the burn victim. Like,
Speaker 2: so he feels like he's super self obsessed with being
Speaker 2: the chancellor.
Speaker 4: Right, He's just not that dopey. It's like, dude, you
Speaker 4: know what's going on? What?
Speaker 3: Or is he choosing not to see it?
Speaker 2: The boyfriend thing here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he wants her to be with Brandon, so
Speaker 3: he just just.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he just wants her to be a Brandon,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I don't think he's that clueless, Like I
Speaker 3: think he's just like, yes, self absorbed in his world,
Speaker 3: but also like wants what he wants. And so you know,
Speaker 3: if you just keep pretending you don't see it, maybe
Speaker 3: it'll go away.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe.
Speaker 4: And I don't know why David cares speaking of a trigger?
Speaker 4: Do you want to know what triggered me in this episode?
Speaker 2: What triggered you? Can we how many times can we
Speaker 2: say trigger this?
Speaker 4: Wait? What flames?
Speaker 2: There was flames all around in this episode. There was
Speaker 2: like the fire behind Dellie and Mommy, and then there
Speaker 2: was the flames in front of Kelly and Brandon and
Speaker 2: the fireplane, and then there was the flame that there
Speaker 2: was flames everywhere. It was freaking me. I never told
Speaker 2: you guys this. Okay, So the fire episode was two
Speaker 2: weeks ago, right, So, over the course of the last
Speaker 2: two weeks, I've been obsessed with any electrical things in
Speaker 2: my house. I've bought like remote control clickers to be
Speaker 2: able to turn things off and on. Then the place
Speaker 2: where we golf buy our house, it caught fire from
Speaker 2: an electrical fire. No what the same week that, right
Speaker 2: after I watched the show.
Speaker 3: What is the golf course? Okay, it's Dave, Okay.
Speaker 2: It was just the snack shacks.
Speaker 4: Everything's okay, sounds like a toaster a microwave in the
Speaker 4: snackshack we have.
Speaker 2: I'm so scared of fire right now.
Speaker 4: I wonder if this episode is what caused me. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with not having fire. Like, do you guys
Speaker 4: do the off off, off, off off every night on
Speaker 4: your stove? H I do that everything off?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't think I do that.
Speaker 3: Times there were lighting candles and I don't usually like candles. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well because I have kids and still a six year old.
Speaker 3: But yeah, last night I blew one out because I
Speaker 3: was like, the kids are like, why are you blowing
Speaker 3: it out? And I'm like, just because yeah, I'm just nervous.
Speaker 3: You're walking your I don't know.
Speaker 4: And Christmas is also a fire time where you're life. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the tree and the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, public service announcement everybody out there, Yeah,
Speaker 2: please be careful with TSA. Yes, make sure your house
Speaker 2: is fireproof or go and get one of those things.
Speaker 2: Do you have a fire distinguisher extinguisher? I have one,
Speaker 2: but it's like in the backy backy backie of my
Speaker 2: under my help you it would take I would be
Speaker 2: burnt to a crisp back water and dryer like in between.
Speaker 4: You know, everybody do what? And I still have to
Speaker 4: say what triggered me? What everybody should do? Those since
Speaker 4: at the end of the year, check your batteries and
Speaker 4: you're it's a good time to like redo the batteries
Speaker 4: the smoke detectors, because then you know, for twenty twenty
Speaker 4: four you're like, Okay, I'm good, I know, and you don't.
Speaker 3: Have to deal with that. I'll put the head on
Speaker 3: top of my list of things to do.
Speaker 4: Nothing else. So the no, the thing that triggered me
Speaker 4: triggered trigger what the popcorn mess?
Speaker 2: I was literally like, oh, okay, you are This is
Speaker 2: now finally passing this judgment of me being so neat
Speaker 2: and tidy onto her. This is Amy. Now, Amy is
Speaker 2: the one that has too many control issues with cleaning.
Speaker 4: I was so like, first, I'm not a huge tinsel girl, right,
Speaker 4: so I already had written down the wall. She just
Speaker 4: have a lot of tinsel on their tree.
Speaker 3: What do they have?
Speaker 2: Tinsel? Like? The little pieces or the garland.
Speaker 4: Of tintal, the little just little little those oh so
Speaker 4: messy draped over so many things. Then I think Claren
Speaker 4: David and Donna, and I think Ray was there maybe too,
Speaker 4: are stringing the you know, first grade popcorn.
Speaker 2: All that was just Donna, Claren David. They were making
Speaker 2: a big old mess and then Donna just walks out.
Speaker 2: Does nobody cleans it on brand?
Speaker 4: On brand?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Like the entire day went all over that floor with
Speaker 4: the carpeting, and then.
Speaker 2: They just walk around stomp it into the carpet. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was feeling it.
Speaker 4: Cleaning that up is challenging, Like.
Speaker 3: He's not there, Just show me how to use the vacuum,
Speaker 3: I am, I didn't know how.
Speaker 2: To do it.
Speaker 4: Cut it because it's like ground into that carb.
Speaker 2: You want to know what triggered me.
Speaker 4: Yes, obviously.
Speaker 2: Well, there were a few things. Honestly, one of them
Speaker 2: not such a big deal. But why was there a
Speaker 2: scene on the back of Dylan's head the scene with
Speaker 2: Christine Pettitt in the FBI, They're like shooting the backs
Speaker 2: of their heads. I hated it.
Speaker 4: Wait, I miss that.
Speaker 2: I have to rewatch that, like sometimes you instead of
Speaker 2: shooting from the front angle, they do it from over
Speaker 2: the back shore. I didn't love that. And the other thing, no,
Speaker 2: because it was bad, like you know, but he's such
Speaker 2: good hair.
Speaker 3: I was okay with it.
Speaker 2: I like, I don't know he was. I don't know
Speaker 2: that whole thing.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: One other thing was in the peach pit when the
Speaker 2: unhoused people are they're being fed and they pan across
Speaker 2: the countertop and the patrons are eating. But you can
Speaker 2: clearly tell they were told don't eat the food because
Speaker 2: they were like this. They were like this with the food, like.
Speaker 3: Oh no, like an sl swit yeah, and they were
Speaker 3: drinking like this they were like like it was so clear.
Speaker 2: If you go back and watch it, you can see
Speaker 2: one guy not putting it in his mouth and pretending
Speaker 2: to chew.
Speaker 3: It's listen, it was the end of the year, Christmas.
Speaker 3: You know, the budget was low, Like, don't eat the food.
Speaker 3: You have to keep reheating it up and using it
Speaker 3: for scene to see, you to see.
Speaker 4: My favorite game is bad background acting. It's fun.
Speaker 2: It's not their fault. They were literally told donate the food,
Speaker 2: we don't have enough, or it's been sitting out. Those
Speaker 2: are always those are the reasons.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I always thought heard it was continuity, like if
Speaker 4: you bite your burger and then we have to go back,
Speaker 4: and then even that poor girl in the corner, oh,
Speaker 4: the burned woman. Yes, okay, so I have a whole
Speaker 4: question about her. So sorry to not figure out who
Speaker 4: you're talking about. Am I the only one who at
Speaker 4: first thought it was your friend?
Speaker 2: I wanted it to be my friend Alison.
Speaker 3: Wait, but was that supposed to be No, I just met,
Speaker 3: but like for a moment you were supposed to think
Speaker 3: maybe I did.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, maybe it's her, But no, it
Speaker 2: was just some other terribly burned woman. It was very
Speaker 2: and she was sitting all alone.
Speaker 4: It was very sad, very upsetting. Yeah, that was just upsetting.
Speaker 4: And I did like whoever said I think it was Brandon?
Speaker 4: So you and Brandon are talking and you were very
Speaker 4: upset over the responses, and I thought he said, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe everybody was just feeling her pain, and I thought, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what, maybe they'res well.
Speaker 2: No, because when they walked by, when Kelly heard them
Speaker 2: like talking about her, I think one of them said
Speaker 2: like sucks to be her something to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we have to go back and see what
Speaker 4: they exactly said, because I'm like, did they say something jerky.
Speaker 2: Or did they just so very not very thoughtful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in response and you get nervous.
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing that really bothered me, really triggered
Speaker 2: me was Brandon's giant dockers. Why are his pants like parachutes?
Speaker 2: Like he could literally fly in those pants.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this is a personal choice because there
Speaker 3: is no chance that they were like where It's just
Speaker 3: like always I don't know, well because Ray's dress well,
Speaker 3: like so my things, like Raise dressed, how Jamie dresses
Speaker 3: in real life, which Donna slash Torri is now like
Speaker 3: coppying his ale like ogre but like Jason must have
Speaker 3: wanted that, Like that's not.
Speaker 2: A good look.
Speaker 4: Want me to tell you the fashion winner of this episode?
Speaker 4: Tell us raised mom, red swede fringe jacket and cool, right, mall.
Speaker 2: She had the.
Speaker 4: Flannel and like some ear rings, Like I was like,
Speaker 4: raise mom, Yeah, she.
Speaker 2: Puts herself together.
Speaker 3: At the time, I remember liking it because I love
Speaker 3: vintage and I was.
Speaker 4: Like that red suede jacket like on point, like.
Speaker 3: I know it's I know they were going for like
Speaker 3: something else, but I was like, it's it's kind of cool.
Speaker 4: I always want to know what mall y'all are at too.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 2: It had to have been, right, what was it the
Speaker 2: Beverly Center.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, I was so.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was so into the episode that I didn't
Speaker 4: do my normal like yeah, Auntie als or whatever, you
Speaker 4: know whatever it's called. Oh, where's story?
Speaker 3: That didn't exist?
Speaker 4: But anymore did it not? When did that thing come around?
Speaker 3: It was like missus Fields back then.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, missus Field.
Speaker 4: Still around, but not as prevalent now as it was then.
Speaker 2: Well, you're your buzzy sweater and little scalloped mini skirt.
Speaker 3: Was pretty cute too. Oh my gosh, sorry, you know
Speaker 3: what I just saw yesterday? You guys. I was at
Speaker 3: Urban Outfitters and no joke, your prom dress Kelly and
Speaker 3: Brenda's black dress with the white No.
Speaker 4: No, I took a picture for you.
Speaker 3: Jen, I'm gonna go buy it.
Speaker 2: I really want that.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's there.
Speaker 4: And I literally was like oh and gasped.
Speaker 3: I love it, and Stella and Hattie were with me,
Speaker 3: and I was like okay, and I was like, sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm not making this about me, and I hate doing that,
Speaker 3: but I just got to tell you guys, like our
Speaker 3: show literally created this. No literally it wasn't fair, like
Speaker 3: we created this and it was done and then became
Speaker 3: huge thing in the nineties and now everything's coming back
Speaker 3: from the nineties. But this dress is from nine oh
Speaker 3: too and oh, and I was like Jen and Shannon
Speaker 3: wore this dress and they just both looked at me
Speaker 3: like I had three heads, and I was like then
Speaker 3: I got really embarrassed. And then they were like I
Speaker 3: hate to tell you, mom, but like Olivia Rodrigo like
Speaker 3: where's that? And I was like, uh, okay, well sorry.
Speaker 3: Jenny Garth and She thirty were around a lot longer
Speaker 3: and way before on trend than Olivia Rodrigo.
Speaker 2: God, I'm going to buy it now.
Speaker 3: Anyway you have to find out, okay, you have to
Speaker 3: get it, but Jen, it's this big.
Speaker 2: Now, oh, it's a little shorter.
Speaker 3: It's a tube top that.
Speaker 4: They call a dress.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: And then and then a fan comes up and she
Speaker 3: was like, you know, in our age with her kids,
Speaker 3: and she was like, oh my gosh, I'm sorry. Can
Speaker 3: I take a picture with you? And I said yes,
Speaker 3: of course. And I said, wait, sorry, are you a
Speaker 3: nine o two? And oh fan? She's like of course.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, okay, wait, wait, wait for it.
Speaker 3: What is this dress remind you of? And she froze
Speaker 3: and she goes, I'm not sure. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: so not a super fan, just a fan. And then
Speaker 3: I probably embarrassed her and I was just like, oh nothing.
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, just nineties. It reminds me
Speaker 3: of nineties. She was like, oh, okay, okay, not a
Speaker 3: super fan.
Speaker 2: Oh I've seen that dress pop up from time to
Speaker 2: time just in random places. Yeah, right, that dress won't
Speaker 2: won't go away.
Speaker 4: You know what else won't go away? The shout out
Speaker 4: to the club, did you hear? It was very soft?
Speaker 4: But Ray's mom tells Donna, oh, I got Ray the club.
Speaker 4: Do you guys know what the club?
Speaker 2: The club?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I didn't know what that was.
Speaker 2: That's the thing that keeps your car from getting stolen.
Speaker 4: It was called the club. Of course I am because
Speaker 4: and then you put on my steering wheel stop it.
Speaker 4: So when this was airing, I was in college and
Speaker 4: we all used the club first of all on our
Speaker 4: rappy cars. We drove and called like, why somebody was
Speaker 4: gonna steal my nineteen eighty seven accurate Integra. I have
Speaker 4: no idea, but we were all clubbing it. And then
Speaker 4: remember you'd take your radio out, so I just would
Speaker 4: take the face offred, but other people I know were.
Speaker 3: Taking Oh my god, I didn't know what was called that,
Speaker 3: you guys the mom God.
Speaker 2: That's so funny because Randy just told me yesterday or
Speaker 2: the day before, he said the word the club, and
Speaker 2: he was talking about that thing, that device. He was
Speaker 2: saying that the best way you can deter people from
Speaker 2: stealing your car is to have a stick shift car.
Speaker 4: Oh, because they can't even drive it away.
Speaker 2: Because they don't know how to drive them, so they
Speaker 2: won't steal those cars. He said, it's actually a better
Speaker 2: deterrent than the club. And then you said the club.
Speaker 2: That's so weird. Well, this was a very exciting episode.
Speaker 2: You know, I felt that the end for Andrea, it
Speaker 2: felt bad at the end for Dylan, he just he's lonely.
Speaker 2: He wants the family, he wants.
Speaker 4: To have love in his life, and he's I think
Speaker 4: he's coming off around. Yeah, he's coming back around, and
Speaker 4: he's gonna go get his money back with Jonesy. But
Speaker 4: Jonesy takes way too much.
Speaker 2: What is happening with Jonesy and that fifty to fifty
Speaker 2: spl So.
Speaker 4: Here's an interesting little tidbit guys that you know, does
Speaker 4: anyone watch Yellowstone?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: So you know Cole Hauser that's on Yellowstone.
Speaker 2: Jenina Colhauser, damn a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his.
Speaker 4: Father or his uncle. Well, that guy Jonesy is related
Speaker 4: to Cole Hauser. What's his name Wingshauser?
Speaker 2: Wings Oh, wings Hauser. And that's why it makes perfect
Speaker 2: sense now, yep, yeah, it makes perfect sense, just the
Speaker 2: way Luke was in that scene because he was either
Speaker 2: friends of wings Hauser or he was like he was
Speaker 2: a fan kind of because him in that scene just
Speaker 2: wasn't Dylan.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: His acting was felt different to me and I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I was like, I think that he must know this
Speaker 2: actor or love this guy or something.
Speaker 3: No, it's all coming back. You're right, right, right?
Speaker 4: So that's Wings close? Yeah they were close, is yeah,
Speaker 4: Kolhauser's dad is Wings.
Speaker 2: I just disagree with with Jonesy's split, Like he's of
Speaker 2: Dylan's wealth too much. That's why would he agree to that?
Speaker 4: Did Dylan agree to that? Yes? Oh too much?
Speaker 3: I think clearly he's not good with money, you guys.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and he's probably rather have four million than
Speaker 4: no millions, but like a fair percentage. I mean, I
Speaker 4: get that Jonesy's like a he seems like Dog the
Speaker 4: bounty Hunter kind.
Speaker 2: Of, but like.
Speaker 4: Thirty Is he drunk?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I don't know what was he He was on a
Speaker 4: weird diet. It was interesting, like he was stumbling all over.
Speaker 4: Remember he's on the grapefruit juice diet when drinking his milk.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's not on the grape juice diet.
Speaker 4: That seemed very relatable. Oh my god, I love this episode.
Speaker 2: I loved it too, but I didn't feel christmasy and
Speaker 2: like warm until the very end, when when the whole
Speaker 2: gang shows up at Andrea's house and holds baby Jesus
Speaker 2: A ten.
Speaker 4: What do you guys, I'm ten ten and.
Speaker 3: It's my birthday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, happy birthday, Donna.
Speaker 2: We didn't even celebrate your birthday, though, Ray's mom kind
Speaker 2: of did.
Speaker 3: On brand. Like the Donna, Donna's a birthday always gets
Speaker 3: forgotten story of her life. She always talks about that.
Speaker 3: That's a tough one though, Benn, Wow, what do you guys?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it like an eight.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna go with eight point five, and not
Speaker 3: just to go slightly above you. I just literally I
Speaker 3: think eight point five.
Speaker 4: What Merry Christmas?
Speaker 2: Ten?
Speaker 4: Nine oh two one Ho ho ho ten.
Speaker 3: There you go, Ho Ho ho