1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast used to deliver your mail. 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another addition to the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas, and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: a room filled with some heroes. Some heroes I should 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: say yes to. My direct left the man in Black 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: today Christopher Westling, Hey, Dan, and we did deliver people's mail. 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: You did very well. What was too well? You've told us? 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: And it burned up the route. Yeah, as they say, 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: a little jargo, uh postal office, postal service jargo. And 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: next to Chris is And if you're watching this on periscope, 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: you already know Patrick Claiban. Hey, guys of NFL Network, 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: one of our I call him like the sixth man 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 1: of the year. You need somebody off the bench. He's 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: gonna come in. He's gonna give you twelve and eight 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: and a block and a big steel and he's gonna 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: move the ball. Well, the crowd's gonna overly react to 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: anything I do, like sarcastically, like, yeah, they're gonna chant 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: for you at the end of blowouts. He didn't stumble 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: and die. Yeah. Remember Ricky Pierce, Yeah, you're the Ricky 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Pierce of our podcast. Um so this is a situation. Yes, 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: this is a situation. We're gonna hold this pot together 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: with a little bit of spit and a lot of 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: a lot of bailing wire. Bailing wire, uh some uh 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: ta tuscular fortitude, Oh nice, maybe some twine. Mark Sessler 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: still out of the office. He's uh not feeling himself 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: right now. Well I hope he's not feeling himself. He's 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: not feeling well right now, a little bit under the weather. 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: Uh So Mark not with us. Hopefully he'll be back 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Greg, of course in London, um where he 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: covered the Giants Rams game that everyone or a lot 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: of people watched this morning. So what we're gonna do, 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: uh with some bodies missing today, We're gonna get Greg 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: on the phone a little bit later, uh soon actually, 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: because it's almost I think two am in England right now. 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Uh So we gotta get him on the phone so 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: you can go to sleep. Uh. And then we're gonna 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: have some people that help downstairs in the newsroom uh 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: cover some games for us today. We're gonna have a 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: rotating um chair right here to my right and have 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: them sit in and talk football with it. So it's 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a fun show, a different show, but still 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: the flagship show of the round. The NFL Podcast sponsored 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: by the one and all only Mr Flame and his 44 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands. Stop love that dude, 45 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: love his passion for life and um, let's do this, guys. 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: Let's start with the most exciting game of Sunday. Let's 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: get it going, said, forty two yard field goal for 48 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: the way and justin start up enough tash marks snap 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: the Plants been swinging to the right leg, kick to 50 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: the uprights and it is God but San die called 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: Churchers it overtime defeat the ap platof Falcons. Thirty. Oh 52 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: there it is the call from Josh Louon of k 53 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: I O Z. Who's the kicker for the Chargers. I'm 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: playing in his name, Jo Josh Lambeau. Swung that right 55 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: great name, swung that right leg. The San Diego Chargers 56 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: wiped out a huge first half deficit, tied the game 57 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: in the final minute of regulation, and then, following a 58 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: huge fourth down stop in Atlanta's first possession of overtime, 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: got that game winning field goal from Lando, a thirty 60 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: three to thirty win over the Falcons. Chris Westling Connie 61 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: Fox now that for once the Chargers did the stealing 62 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: and it's given them some new life in the a 63 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: f C. She got the lock of the week right 64 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: and locked it up. She locked it up, And that's 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: a shout across West's about because you hate the lock 66 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: of the week, Well, yeah, how can you hate it 67 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: when that the lock sound is so visceral. I don't 68 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: like the concept of it, but the execution has been 69 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: pretty good. With you begging people to say whether you're 70 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: gonna lock it up? You were executed in this spot. 71 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Go ahead was let's stop this game. But a lot 72 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: going on at the end of this game, as people 73 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: tuned in. You had Dion Jones, the Falcons. Wonderful rookie 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: couldn't wrap up Melvin Gordon on a third and one, 75 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: and then Robert Alford knocked the ball out of Antonio 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: hands into your Gates hands at the goal line. Next 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: dry Falcons come back once again. Julio Jones is not 78 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: given the benefit of doubt on a passenger appearance that 79 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: really shaped a fifty eight yard field goal for Matt 80 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Bryant that grazed the crossbar just as it hit the upright. 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: Uh it fell the way, by the way that the Chargers, 82 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: who have been blowing games all year statistically, they lost 83 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: those first four games, two of them that they had 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: a nine pcent chance to win, And it was historic 85 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: the way they did it. I thought for sure, fifty 86 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: eight yard from Bryant, even though he's forty one, he 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: was either gonna drill it or they were gonna have 88 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: some stupid penalty San Diego that would lose the game. 89 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: So when that happened, you're like, oh wait, maybe this 90 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: is a little different. Then we go straight to overtime. 91 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: Man dan Quinn hangs his red Zeppelins. Fourth down, he 92 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: hung some Zeppelins is a big onion. Giant sweet Spanish 93 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: onions are good, and a red Zeppelin is a big 94 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: red onion. Didn't work, though he knows when he makes 95 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: that call at his own forty five yard line that 96 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: that's the game. That getting one yard determines whether the 97 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: Falcons win or lose that game, because it's an easy 98 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: whatever Phil Rivers has to go, whether it's fifteen yards 99 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: or seventeen yards from that point to get in field 100 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: goal range, the game's over if the Falcons don't make it. 101 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: And Denzel Perriman, who's come up big since he got 102 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: in the starting lineup last year, stops DeVante Freeman for 103 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: a loss on fourth down. Clay, But I liked that call, 104 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: did you. I know some people thought it was a 105 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: little overly risky, but I like the onions. I try 106 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: to separate. I mean, I'm okay with onions, but I 107 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: try to separate the play call from the decision to 108 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: go for it. Right, And you just got stopped on 109 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: third and one, you actually lost yardage, And so they 110 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: come back and and try to run up not at 111 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: the same spot. They go in between the guard and 112 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: the tackle and it you heard a garbage hot take downstairs? 113 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: You are the hot take on Budsman of NFL media. 114 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: What was the hot take you heard that? You corrected? Well, 115 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: our our good friend Ali was about to say, well, 116 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: if you don't get this, you don't deserve to win. 117 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: And that's one that I've been asking myself for a 118 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: long what does that mean? Well, you know, if if 119 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: they don't get this one, they just don't deserve to win. Like, 120 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: how many times does the team won a game after 121 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: they after something happens where they quote unquote don't deserve 122 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: to win. I think that's one of those things that 123 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: we just say a lot and it's like, well, you 124 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: don't deserve that, But it doesn't make it doesn't mean anything. 125 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what that means. They can 126 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: still pump the ball, get a stop and when they 127 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: could have sat Snards will tell you that getting one 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: yard is easier than holding the other team for the 129 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: rest of the game. But all fourth and one situations 130 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: aren't created equal, and when the defense knows you're gonna 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: run the ball and fourth and one, the percentages go 132 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: way down. This was a game that Falcon the Falcons 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: had in hand or in the first half. I believe 134 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: it was at one point in the first half. Uh, 135 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: they Chargers cut it to seventeen the Falcons and had 136 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: the ball at the end of the half, And it 137 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: just seemed at any moment, whether it was at the 138 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: end of the second quarter, in the or in the 139 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: second half, the Falcons were gonna go on that uh 140 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, put up another seven to ten points, seven 141 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: or fourteen points and turned the game into a laugher again. 142 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: And it just never happened. And you gotta give credit 143 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: to the Chargers, I will say, and uh. You know, 144 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: I was in favor of forking them, uh for the 145 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: very reason that they were uh their record and then 146 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: their schedule. But they again have proved here that the Chargers, 147 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: because of their offense, where they could score probably thirty 148 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: against just about anyone, if they could just get some 149 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: defensive play and then can make some plays at the 150 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: end of a game where they've struggled, they're gonna win 151 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: a lot of these games. And they showed it today 152 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: against one of the best teams in the NFC. It 153 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: wasn't just the best game of the day, was the 154 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: most impactful game of the day because the Falcons were 155 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: threatening to run away with the NFC South just to 156 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: go out and hide as the best team in that 157 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: division by far. And if you take their defense, which 158 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: for three quarters in this game looked like they're following 159 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: the two thousand nine Saints defense blueprint as an opportunistic group. 160 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: They've got as many defensive touchdowns as any team in 161 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: the league. They have eleven sacks of the last three games. 162 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: They were look looking a little frisky, and now you 163 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: look at them and say, well, they've given up twenty 164 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: six or more points in six of seven games and 165 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: on offense, they're the most explosive offense in the league. 166 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: But Tevin Coleman, who was their game breaking threat out 167 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: of the backfield, goes down with a hamstring injury in 168 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: the second half, spends the second half in the locker room, 169 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: and that looks like a multi week injury, I think. 170 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: And then you look at the other side San Diego. 171 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: We we buried them, or we wanted to bury them, 172 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: and there to me, they look like they have as 173 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 1: good a chance as any team in the a f 174 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: C West to win that division right now. I think 175 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: they're definitely the most interesting team, uh in the a 176 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: f C in terms of those teams kind of under 177 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: the bubble or on the bubble right now. So we'll 178 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: keep an eye on it. And before we move on, 179 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: I did troll Collie in a little bit. Well, we 180 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: had our fun with colleeen on Thursday when she locked 181 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: up this game for the Chargers. Before you go to that, 182 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: we should mention Joey Bosa. Okay, he's gonna win defensive 183 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: lookie Rookie the Year if he doesn't get looks dominant, 184 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: he is flat out dominant. Two more sacks today and 185 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: two of his first three games, He's got multiple sacks 186 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: in addition to the times he was hounding Matt Ryan 187 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: in the backfield. He's the defensive rookie of the year. 188 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I mean they should have had him 189 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: on the field for the first couple of games of 190 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: the season. Maybe water under the bridge at this point, 191 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, Collie and I trolled her a little bit 192 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter when it was uh and I it's only 193 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: fair that I gave her the opportunity to leave me 194 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: a voicemail that would be played on the podcast. And 195 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: I have not heard this voicemail yet. Sydney will now, Um, 196 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: you know we're all gonna take what's coming to us 197 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: for doubting Colleen's lock of the week. It's Connie leaving 198 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: a voicemail. It's like, not really my thing unless I 199 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: can't get to the end button soon enough, and then 200 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: it's just like an awkwour thing. But this is for real. 201 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know. UM, I really 202 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: hate when people gloat, like nobody it's gloating more than me, 203 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: except when I'm doing it the San Diego Chargers. I 204 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: locked it in. I channeled Sessler. I think he has 205 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: everything to do with this they won. They beat the 206 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Falcons with the injury riddle secondary all the odds against 207 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: me and them. So if sandwiches are involved, I'll have 208 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: an Italian vote with oil and vinegar, hot peppers and 209 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: thanks Harters. This is like the ultra rare setting the 210 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: um the wager after the the situation happened? Is this 211 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: gradiity sandwich? Does this a penalty for your preemptive troll? Baby? 212 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Did you notice what else she did there? But nobody 213 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: hates gloating more than she does, just like nobody loves 214 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: the Falcons more than she does, and she picks against 215 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: them for the lock of the week. Very interesting. Let's 216 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: move on. Keen him out of the gun five wide 217 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: on an empty set, third and tenth from the Giants 218 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: fifty let's just write me up. Back down to the 219 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: ground comes he throws off his back foot hierarchy football 220 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: left side comedy Quadra's Primarty picks it off. He was 221 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: the only one in that zip code. He intercepts it 222 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: nonchalantly walks out of the back of the end zone. 223 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: Case keenom four picks in the game, and that one 224 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: will put this game on ice for the Giants. Yes, 225 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: uh DRC had the game that the interception that clinched 226 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: uh the win for the New York Giants, but it 227 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: was Landon Collins pick six in the first half to 228 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: turn the tide in London, where the Giants took advantage 229 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: of four case Keenom interceptions, the last one you just heard. 230 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: They're called by Bob Papa of w f A n Uh. 231 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: The fourth interception locked up a seventeen ten win for 232 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: the Giants over the Rams at Wickenham Stadium. Greg Rosenthal 233 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: was at this game, and now I believe he's gonna 234 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: join us from his cottage estate in the hillside. We 235 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: got Greg Rosenthal on the line. What's up, buddy? What 236 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: is happening? You sounds tired? What time is it? Look 237 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: at all that fake energy I got? Are we on? On? 238 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: We are on? It's uh to in the morning. Look 239 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: at you? Look at you? Greg? Well, I think the 240 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: best way to do this, Greg, because I know you 241 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: are tired. So we'll save kind of the talk about 242 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: your trip to London for Tuesday's show and maybe just 243 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: why don't we just focus our conversation right here a 244 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: little bit on the game. And I guess, um, if 245 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: you could tell me a little bit about what you said, 246 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: what was the vibe in the stadium today? The fan 247 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: breakdown tell us a little bit about being at this 248 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: game today at wicken Num Stadium so close. Oh so 249 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get killed for that. It was awesome. I 250 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: had so many people comments on our mispronunciation. Um, the 251 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: vibe was incredible. Just the walk from the train station, 252 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: it was packed, kind of like the four train would 253 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: be in in New York up to a Yankees game. 254 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: And then the walk through the neighborhood of just tens 255 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: of thousands of NFL fans, tons of insane jerseys, and 256 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: the crowd. I mean, you know, it's it's tough to 257 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: compare it to any other games. I mean, it's not 258 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: quite like a super Bowl atmosphere. But they were ready 259 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: to to see some great plays which didn't really happen 260 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: in the game. It was it was a lot of 261 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: Giants stands and it was probably like half Giant stands 262 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: and then half there maybe not even that much. And 263 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: then and then the rest the rest people just looking 264 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: for something to cheer from and not really getting it. 265 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: Did the people that didn't really um, were there to 266 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: look for something to cheer from. Did they understand how 267 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: terrible case Keenum was down the stretch of this game. Yeah, 268 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean there was. There was eleven straight punts at 269 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: one point. I mean. The crazy thing is that the 270 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: Giants offense was probably as bad or worse than than 271 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: the than the Rams. They had two and thirty yards 272 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: of offense. They didn't top forty five yards of rushing 273 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: for the third grade game. So I I again, I 274 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: felt bad for the London crowd that they got this 275 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: lousy game. But at least at least it was exciting 276 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: at the end, and the crowd was loud. You know. 277 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: Henry Hodgson, Uh Handsome Hank was sitting next to He 278 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: said he thought it was the loudest that any International 279 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: Series game was. Maybe it was the stadium. The stadium 280 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: was just really cool. I think they're gonna end up 281 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: playing there for a long time. And what what were 282 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: some other takeaways of the game for you? Huh? What 283 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: do we got? I mean, they gotta they gotta put 284 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: there coffin, right, Yes, they gotta put a Jared goff 285 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: This is like a couple of weeks over due now 286 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: in my opinion, What's what are you waiting for? Seven 287 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: or nine? Bs, it's insane, and there were you know, 288 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: we reported Steve Weiss reported that he's been making progress 289 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and practice and they're not as anxious. And I was 290 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: kind of thinking Fisher might might give a tip to 291 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: that right after the game, but he came out before 292 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: anyone even asked the question and said it wasn't our 293 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: quarterback's fault. We got a lot of bigger problems than 294 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: our quarterbacks. I'll change the receivers before I changed the quarterback. 295 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta defend Jeff Fisher on this one. 296 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: Jared Goff was brutal in the preseason. He was obvious 297 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: that he wasn't close to being ready to start, and 298 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: this team was three and three heading into this game. 299 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: They have to worry about getting into the playoffs, not 300 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: not getting a rookie ready to play. You're gonna watch 301 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: this game, man, I mean I watched. I'm saying before, 302 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying before this week, I don't think anyone should 303 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: have been criticizing that decision. If you want to turn 304 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: to him now, that's fine, you're three and four, But 305 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't think, yeah, I don't think that you can 306 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: really second guess if you didn't definitely second guessing because 307 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: by like for instance, having him playing this game, he 308 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: basically threw this game away. Jared Goff is even worse. 309 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: We don't know that, but you didn't watch him in 310 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: the preseason. He wasn't ready to play. They're coaching staff 311 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: knows he wasn't ready to play that when the preseason matters, 312 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: this is a nice West trade. Listen, I'm telling you, dude, 313 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: you wouldn't season matters when a quarterback can't do anything 314 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: before the snap or after the snap, those things you 315 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: can tell in the preseason. Jeff Fisher says he's he's grown, 316 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: though we're not. As Let's see the kid. You drafted 317 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: him number one. This is not a developmental pick. Get 318 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: him in the lineup. Everyone else is playing their guys. Now, 319 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: don't be afraid here in Case Keenom, you start Case Kingdom, 320 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: you're afraid. That's the way it seems to me, right. 321 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: I think if you listen to what they're saying behind 322 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: the scenes, they were the ones that were putting it 323 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: out there that he wasn't ready, And to me, they're 324 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: kind of putting it out there now that they think 325 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: he probably is. And I wouldn't be surprised as as 326 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: adamant as Fisher was after this game. I wouldn't be 327 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: surprised if that's the situation like the Jets have, where 328 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: he has time to watch this game, and he was 329 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: quick to say the interceptions were in all the spot, 330 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: which was true. But there was another fifty passes, including 331 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: about three, four or five wide open guys down the 332 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: field where Keenom's just throwing pop slides. I mean he 333 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't have an NFL arm. And you watch Mannion 334 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: and Golf warming up for the game and they swing it. 335 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: All right, do you want to Greg? Do you want 336 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: to stay on and talk a little Pats football or 337 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: do you want to go to bed? I'm gonna give 338 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: you the option here, all right, I'll stay on. I 339 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: also want to say, I know, I know we're going 340 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: to talk about I know we're gonna talk about, you know, 341 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the London experience on Tuesday, But I 342 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: do want to say it was awesome everyone that came 343 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: up to me today, especially and the and the guys 344 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: I met at as you meet up, let's say they 345 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: love the podcast. It was it was overwhelming how many 346 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: people UH came up and just kind of recognized me 347 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: as I was as I was running around, And they 348 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: love you guys. They love listening to the podcast every 349 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: every Monday morning to shout out to all of them. Absolutely, 350 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: it's a it's amazing how loyal and how really large 351 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: are our fan bases in the UK. So that is 352 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: that is awesome to hear. Sid Let's uh, let's move 353 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: on to some throne of ease action. Third and seven 354 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: for the Patriots from the Pittsburgh thirty Andrew stabs a 355 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: fact format left for Pittsburgh. Tom throws down the left 356 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: scene for Cris Cried past the five of the end zone. 357 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: He takes a Steeler defender on the way to a touchdown. Patriots. 358 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Bob Sochi of kb Z the New England Patriots keep rolling. 359 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady threw two more touchdown passes without a turnover, 360 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: and Landry Jones didn't make anyone forget about Ben Roethlisberger 361 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: as the Patriots moved to six and one in NFL 362 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: Best six and one sixteen win at hines Field. Mr Wesling. 363 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh had their chances in this game, but they couldn't 364 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: play sharp enough to uh to hang with the NFL's 365 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: best Right now, Yeah, from I had an eye on 366 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: this game, and and it surprised me that Landry Jones 367 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: was probably the best he's ever been in the NFL 368 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: preseason or regular season. He wasn't an embarrassment in this game, 369 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: and that's kind of what I expected him to be. 370 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: But then Brady and Gronk were just too much and 371 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: and la Garrett Blunt is on pace for his best 372 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: season ever. What did you see, Greg? Well? The thing 373 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: that struck me with them is they score. When they score, 374 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: they score so fast, they score in bunches. It happened 375 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: against the Bengals, and it happened a bit in this game. 376 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: That they can just tread water for a quarter or 377 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: twenty minutes at a time, and it's like they're trying 378 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: to figure out what the problems that the defense is 379 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: presenting and then they just solve it and they just 380 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: bash you with grounds crazy that. Yeah, my takeaway here 381 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: was and I did the same thing as west Or. 382 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: I kind of had an eye in this game. I 383 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: thought Pittsburgh had a chance in this game, just like 384 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: last last week, Cincinnati had their chances uh Pittsburgh if 385 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: they would have played a little sharper, a little better football. 386 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: They could have really had a chance to steal the 387 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: game here, which you know at home you say, oh, 388 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: what do you mean steal game? But the Patriots or 389 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: the Patriots and playing without Roethlisberger is such a problem. 390 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: But you have you had a situation here where you're 391 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: you're getting penalized where that had you had a touchdown 392 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: wiped out on a penalty. Yeah, Jones who through a 393 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: terrible end zone uh interception, and you just you can't, Clay, 394 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: you can't make those mistakes against the Patriot. They missed 395 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: two field goals, and you missed two field goals, and 396 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: that there was the one in the first half that 397 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: was an issue. And then Darius, Hey, we're bade by 398 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: the way in the past two games, like who is 399 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: this dude? Playing this guy dynamic? It's like a completely 400 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: different guy. But like I said, the holding penalty wipes 401 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: away the touchdown, they missed the field goal. Edelman fumbles 402 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: the punt return, and at that point they could get 403 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: a touchdown making a game, or at least a field goal. 404 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: They don't get any. That's the exact moment it was 405 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: relegated to second TV status for me, the smaller TV, 406 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: the Edelman fumble in the second half, it's I think 407 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: a ten point eleven point episode. At that point, they 408 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: can't move the ball at inch, maybe a yard or two, 409 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: and then they settle for a fifty four yard field 410 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: goal temper in some conditions that and it's always hard 411 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: to kick in Hindes field, and you knew the guy 412 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: was gonna miss the kick, and of course it goes 413 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: wide right by a mile, and that was essentially the game. 414 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: You know, they clearly didn't have anything left in the 415 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: tank right at that You're in a good position right now, 416 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: Mr Rosenthal. Well, it sets up well for the game 417 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: next week against the Bills, which now feels like if 418 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: the Patriots win that game, I mean, they haven't clinched 419 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: the East, but it feels like the A f C 420 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: East is almost so not halfway through the season. I'm 421 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: not counting on them necessarily winning that game, but suddenly 422 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: you'd be up by what three games halfway through the 423 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: season without any real things to worry about. Well, because 424 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: it's the throne of ease, Lashawn McCoy aggravated his hamstring 425 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: injury and you would have to you would the guests 426 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: either he's not gonna play or he's not gonna be close. 427 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: Come on, an m VP candidate will be sitting the 428 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: bench against the Patriots next week. Come on, Greg, Well 429 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: they've gotten they've got a little lucky. They're playing well 430 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: the a f C. It's working out nicely in terms 431 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: of the injuries and the luck. I'm not gonna I'm 432 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: not gonna second guess that. But you know it's it's 433 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: just the first half of the season. And I'll let 434 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: you go Greg on this note. And uh, listen the 435 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: hashtag gradual decline it's coming. Everybody's just everybody's got to 436 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: be paid ship with this though. I will tell you 437 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady has played three games the Patriots of 438 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: one all three completion rating thousand yards, eight touchdowns, zero interceptions. 439 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: M it's only gonna make the gradual decline look even 440 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more decline. E. That's the way I'm 441 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: looking at us. I heard the jury still out on science. 442 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: Hey we found it, Greg, did you hear who has 443 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: a gradual of decline? Right now? Me? And in this performance? Yeah, 444 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: we gotta get you off to sleep. By the way, 445 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: before before I go, I'm here watching sky Sports, you know, 446 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: which is telecasts all the games here in uh in London, 447 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: so we can take these guys out. I mean, we 448 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: would provide better now here in between the games. A 449 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: shot across the sky Sports in a big spot, Greg, 450 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: bring us over, bring us over, sky Sports, put us 451 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: on all on, bring Clayban over to hey. People will 452 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: love it. Good idea. Let's get out of here. On 453 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: one question, Greg, can you guess what Gronk said after 454 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: he caught his sixty eight career touchdown pass. Wow, something 455 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: something stupid about sixty? He said one morning I got 456 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: sixty s Wait, hold on, that's not only said. Then 457 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: he goes you know what I mean with I imagine 458 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: a wink. Go to sleep, Greg, Mr subtlety, alright, good night, 459 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: see you Tuesday, buddy. Safe journey home. Let us move 460 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: on to a big NFC matchup. The ball booted into 461 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: the heart of the wind. It is Huff emerging from 462 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: the lip of his own goal line up to the 463 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: fifteen across midfield taladere right side five soon for a 464 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: tuftles Josh Huff his second career kick return for a 465 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: t D ninety eight yards. Josh Huff's ninety eight yard 466 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: kickoff return, as you heard from Mel Reye of w 467 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: i P Sports Radio ninety f in the second quarter 468 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: gave the Eagles a lead they'd never relinquished in an 469 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: ugly game that started with five consecutive turnovers. My own, 470 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: it was the Eagles that came out on top win 471 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: over the Vikings, who Christopher Westling are no longer undefeated. 472 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: Bumping the road or cause for concern for the team 473 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: of around the NFL. I think there's some cause for concern. 474 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, that yard kickoff retterm was all 475 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: the offense in this game, and it wasn't even offense 476 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: special teams, but these two teams have five turnovers in 477 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: the first ten minutes of the game, which is the 478 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: first time that's happened in thirty years, is the last 479 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: time there were that many turnovers in the first ten 480 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: minutes of a game. This supposed to be like one 481 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: of the top matchups in the league. I mean, that's 482 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: the two thousand sixteens. It was actually kind of fun 483 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: to watch. It was good defense and it was bad 484 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: offensive line play, specifically for the Vikings. Sam Bradford all 485 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: three of his first half turnovers came as the result 486 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: of pressure. Jake Long signed off the street former number 487 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: one overall draft pick. They had a three man rotation 488 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: going on at tackle. Jake Long look to me like 489 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: was responsible for two strip sacks first half. That's not good. 490 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: Itmost like there was a reason that he was on 491 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: the street to be signed off of And and when 492 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: the Vikings lose two tackles, it's they lost so much already. 493 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: There's always so much for them to deal with, but 494 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: losing two tackles seemed like it really showed, especially against 495 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: the Eagles. They don't have a ground attack to really 496 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: keep defenses honest either, and doesn't look like they're gonna 497 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: be able to make a trade for a guy like 498 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, who Pro Football Talk reported that the Browns 499 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: won a second round pick for him. Rick Spielman told 500 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: uh NFL Networks Judy Batista last week that he's not 501 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: surreending any more draft picks after giving up one for 502 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford, and and I believe he only has fifty 503 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: dollars to work with under the salary cap as well, 504 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to find an in house answer 505 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: at tackle, and I'm not sure that's possible. That is 506 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: not easy. Minnesota had been turned over free for fifty 507 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: seven uh straight offensive possessions to open the season. So 508 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: things changed, Patrick claybun real quick. What about the Eagles? 509 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, this is obviously, going by what we're 510 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: hearing here, this wasn't a dominant performance at least by 511 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: their offense. And Carson Wentz still doesn't look like the 512 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: guy that we saw the first few weeks. But another, 513 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: that's a big win for them, knocking off an undefeated team, 514 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: and and every a lot of people were saying, oh, 515 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: this team has headed down down to Earth, the third 516 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: three game losing streak on the way, but it said 517 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: they got a big win and thinking a big win 518 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: at home over the team that nobody would have argued 519 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: with you and when you said that this was the 520 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: best team in the NFL. And so they come in 521 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: on Sam Bradford's revenge game and they really just snuff 522 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: out the liberation game. Actually we decided, and they're able 523 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: to and they're able to to to move the ball 524 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: some we saw wins have a touchdown pass to Doyle Green, 525 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: Beckham Matthews had a big run. They were there. Of course, 526 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: they made the mistakes, but they made those mistakes and 527 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: they still won. So their defense looks like it's different 528 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: at home than it is on the road. There's so 529 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: much more dominant at home, only averaging seven point seven 530 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: point it's allowed in three games so far at home. 531 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: And they the Vikings couldn't get anything done on offense 532 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: in this game. And while we were we're getting set 533 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: for Game Day Live today, Mike Nolan saw this game start. 534 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: We were watching in the Greek and he uh, we 535 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: were talking about how the Eagles were blitzing, and he 536 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: immediately said, well, that's what you gotta do against North 537 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: if you don't if you don't blitz, then he's gonna 538 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: he's gonna tear you apart and that and that's what 539 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: they did. And you can see it. Really it's gonna 540 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: bug anybody. But Sam Bradford was really having some difficulty 541 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: dealing with the pressure today. Yeah, I on Thursday I 542 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: did think this game could be a problem for Bradford, 543 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: just because I I guess I need to see a 544 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: little bit more from him to really take us away 545 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: from everything else we've seen from Sam Bradford in his 546 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: entire career, and this to me was a little disconcerting. 547 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: Now that and if the line is not gonna be 548 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: any good. Maybe the maybe the Vikings are gonna come 549 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: down to earth, or maybe this was just a little 550 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: team of a t L yips they had this week. 551 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they shake it off. Well, the Vikings have 552 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: a good coaching staff. To me, they'll regroup, go go 553 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: with a different plan of attack and fix this thing. 554 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: Who knows, but the offensive line is definitely the area 555 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: of vulnerability this year. Let's check out another big matchup 556 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: in the NFC. Twenty two seconds left, Stafford out of 557 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: the gun, three receivers stacked to the left side. Matthews 558 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: got it back to pass looking left growing it is caught, 559 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: tots doff the trucks that fall into the stands back 560 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: with sixty seconds lift about dot quarterback. Excellent call from 561 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: Dan Miller of m W j R. Matthew Stafford operated 562 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: the two minute drow precision connecting with an kom bolden. 563 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: What it mattered most lifting the lines to a seen 564 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: win over the Redskins at Ford Field. And now we're 565 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: joined to my right. Yes, sat in well quaffed. Thank you, 566 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: impeccably quaff impeccably quaffed. Alex gelhar Uh, producer, fantasy writer 567 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: extraordinaire uh NFL Fantasy Podcast. Uh. Here he is to 568 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: talk about the game. Stepped in big pinch hitting performance 569 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: as a writer of this game, writing up this game 570 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: at the dot com. What's up? Thank you, thank you. 571 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: The studio audience is really generous here. You know, I 572 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: listened at home so much. It's great to receive such 573 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: a warm welcome. But I feel like I've made it 574 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: to the big leagues here. You know, you guys number 575 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: one podcast in NFL media. You have a sponsor something 576 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: that we don't. So it's it's good to be here. 577 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: And you know there was a mantra at this company 578 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: back in the day of of one media group. So 579 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: with Sessler down, you know, we were more than happy 580 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: to step up to the plate here. Well, thank you, 581 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: Mr gilhar and let's talk about this game. What did 582 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: you see from Maddie Stafford? And this I'm sorry Matthew. 583 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: We've been told you can only call him Matthew. But 584 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: once again, you know, this offense didn't start that great 585 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: in this game, but they finished. They did finish, and 586 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: what was what slowed them down early was Josh Norman 587 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: shadowed Marvin Joe largely out of the gate. He was 588 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: in the slot a couple of times that took Norman 589 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: off of him, but he didn't see a target until 590 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: the third quarter, which left the passing attack to manufacture 591 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: touches through Golden Tate and kind of like a souped 592 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: up theoretic role. And then the running game really couldn't 593 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: get going either. Was Zack center and justin for set 594 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: I think averaging somewhere around three point six yards per carry. 595 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: So once Norman went down, that helped open things up 596 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. Marvin Jones connected on a big reception 597 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: with Stafford that set up ja Zenter's touchdown, and then 598 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: the offense was able to get rolling a little bit 599 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: in the second help what happened to Josh he on 600 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones really great catch was a fifty two yard 601 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: reception down the field. Norman was in tight coverage. Jones 602 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: made the play, but he was concussed when he hit 603 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: the turf afterwards and did not return. Some people go 604 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: he suffered a concussion, some people say he was concussed. 605 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: Clay Bonn, where do you come down on this? I'll 606 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: just go with he hit his head on the ground 607 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: really hard and he left the game and he was 608 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: being evaluated, uh for a concussion. Well we'll see what 609 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: that means for his status going forward. And then the Redskins, 610 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: they we thought they had this game. That's a tough 611 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: loss and in a division that's very competitive the end 612 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: of C's this is a game that they're gonna rewatch 613 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: and know that they let get away because they had 614 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: a ton of misques that that costs them. Matt Jones 615 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: fumbled into the end zone. He now has nine fumbles 616 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: on only like two hundred some career touches in two years. Yeah, 617 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: it's not good. He he rode the pine for a 618 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: little while afterwards. They also had a field goal that 619 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: actually hit the top of the upright and was denied, 620 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: which was kind of baffling. They had over two hundred 621 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: yards of total offense in the first half and three 622 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: points to show for it. I wrote about that on 623 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: the end around. Uh. The kicker Dustin Hopkins. Hopkins the odds, 624 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean, let's say the the upright is like the 625 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: size of a coaster the top of it. Let's say 626 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: your standard coaster pint glass bottom. Yeah, okay, forty five 627 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: yard kick. The the upright is ten yards up for 628 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: the goal post, and then it goes up thirty five feet. 629 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: It was thirty until two years ago. Now it's thirty five. 630 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: So basically it hit a target that was forty five 631 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: yards away and forty five ft up and plumped the 632 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: top of it and didn't even make the kick. It was. 633 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: It was pretty remarkable. At least two points. Those odds 634 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: are infantesta give a couple. Give him ten points for 635 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: christ like, I would change that rule. Get the cop Sydney, 636 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: get the Competition Committee on the line. If I told 637 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: you that Matthew Stafford had the most fourth quarter comebacks 638 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: and the most game winning drives in the NFL since 639 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, would you believe me? I believe in 640 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: the couter? I would. I would because the Lions. The 641 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: Lions are down a line, so that helps when to 642 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: set up fourth quarter comebacks, in game winning drives when 643 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: you're trailing in the fourth quarter. We all believe in 644 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: the couter. Yeah, I mean president right exactly. Well, it's 645 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: gonna get some votes. Kanye v. Couter is going to 646 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: be one of the great all time presidential races. Anything 647 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: else to take away from this game, Mr? Gel What 648 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting was the Lions came into 649 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: this game as Football Outsiders twenty fifth ranked pressuring defense. 650 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: They could not manufacture a pass rush with the ants 651 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: of being hurt, and then Heloni Nada was same time, 652 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: but they got a lot of good pressure out of 653 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: kind of a crew of guys in the middle with 654 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: Kyrie Thornton he's a Packers cast off, Carrie Hyder Jr. 655 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: And undrafted rookie, and then Armani Bryant, who they scooped 656 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: up from the Browns. They hit Kirk Cousins eight times 657 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: and brought him down twice, which was a big key 658 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: and eventually slowing down that Redskins passing attack. Um, Alex, 659 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: your colleague Marcus is coming in next. He is. Since 660 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: you are the producer of the NFL Fantasy Live podcast, 661 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: I will let you give the plug because I feel 662 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: like you're uniquely qualified from oh me, Well, thank you. 663 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: You guys can find it on NFL dot com, slash 664 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: Podcast as well iTunes or Stitcher, whatever you used to 665 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 1: download it. Episodes come out late on Monday and then 666 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: late on Friday as well. Monday is recap, waiver wire, 667 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: all injuries, all that jazz, and then Friday is our 668 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: look ahead to the weekend matchup sleepers and all that jazz. 669 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: There you go, Alex Gelhar pitge hits. He bit it 670 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: over the fence. Guys, he went deep. Mr Gelhart, thank 671 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: you very much, my pleasure. Let's give him a round 672 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: of applause. Oh, thank you got this audience is the 673 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: bad say a. Guys are the best fans in podcasts. 674 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 1: We did, we do even the fake ones. All right, 675 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: So Mr Gallahart steps out and let's move on with 676 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: a a f C East battle. Pannio back to thrill 677 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: Blitz coming. He gets it off, wants it down field, 678 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: wants Parker's got him. He breaks the tackle, He's at 679 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: the thirty, He's at the twenty, He's at the ted Touchdownmiwow, 680 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: what a turner rock in this game. Wow, Sills come back. 681 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: What a great catch and run? After that was Jimmy 682 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: Cefalo and Bob Greasy Cefalo Cephalo of w q A M. 683 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: I will get that wrong forty five more times by 684 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: the end of the season. Kenny Stills, Yes, salted this 685 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: one away, But it is j A. G I who's 686 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: the Dolphins wonder Wall. The British running back became the 687 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: fourth player in NFL history to deliver back to back 688 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: two yard rushing efforts, leading the Dolbins to a comeback 689 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: win over the Buffalo Bills. And now another NFL dot 690 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: Com Fantasy stalwart, Marcus Grant sits to my right, just 691 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: comes right in, very smooth, replaces out scal hard and 692 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: he Marcus wrote this game up for NFL dot Com. 693 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: What's up? What's going on? I appreciate it. I appreciate 694 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: you invite now. I don't know if this was on purpose, 695 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: but uh, it's kind of a little known fact. Wonder 696 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: Wall is the pump up song for the NFL Fantasy 697 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: Live podcast Before every podcast, we sit here in this 698 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: same studio and we we roll through Wonderwall one time 699 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: before we started energy. It's kind of a mid tempo ballad. 700 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: You wouldn't think it was something that really gets your rolling, 701 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: you know, as as Matt Francisco Vista Franchise once said, 702 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: you don't find your hype music, your hype music finds you. 703 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair. So tell us a little bit 704 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: about this game, because at one point the Bills we 705 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: were ahead seventeen six, and everything looked like it was 706 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: ready for the Bills to keep their winning ways up, 707 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: continue that winning streak, and then here came Miami out 708 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: of nowhere. Yeah, I mean, obviously the big story was 709 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: Jagi going over two hundred rushing yards for the second 710 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 1: straight game and really just looking like a completely differ 711 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: back then we saw early in the season. I mean, 712 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: Week one, he got left at home when the Dolphins 713 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: left on their road trip, and it looked like, you know, 714 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: he was kind of on his his last chances there 715 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: with the team. But the last two weeks he has 716 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: looked like a completely different running back and he's really 717 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: kind of saved or resurrected the Dolphins offense. But early 718 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: in that ballgame he talked about the Bills jumping out 719 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: to a lead. A lot of that had to do 720 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: with Miami mistakes, a lot of dumb penalties, poor special 721 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: teams play. I mean at one point that the Bills 722 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: were set up on the Dolphins forty yard line after 723 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: a twelve yard punt um. But offensively, it was it 724 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: was hard for the Bills to manufacture anything. They didn't 725 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: have any of their receivers. With Robert Woods out, Lashawn 726 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: McCoy was not the same guy playing on a bad hamstring, 727 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: and he got a question that decision in general now 728 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: in hindsight, of course, but now that he's aggravated an injury, 729 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: that seemed like he heard it. And I think Wednesday 730 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: on practice they pushed through it. They haven't played, even 731 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: though there were a lot of reports floating that he 732 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't play. Now he might have injured it worse. And yeah, 733 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: we got the Patriots up next. That hurts. Yeah, no, 734 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: absolutely hurts because watching them without Lashawn McCoy, at least 735 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: without him at with no real wide receiver help to 736 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: speak of, there's nothing out there. I mean, Tyrod Taylor 737 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: did the best he could try to move that offense, 738 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: but there's just there. There are no threats in that 739 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: offense at all, with no Sammy Watkins and no Shady 740 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: from what you saw today, would you expect Shady to 741 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: sit next week? I think they would. I mean did 742 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: he really tried to gut it out, but by the 743 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: end he was wrapped up, had a big ice pack 744 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: on his on his leg. Uh. You know, here's the thing. 745 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: Mike gillis Ley is not a terrible running back. I mean, 746 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: he showed some things a little bit when he got 747 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: an opportunity It's just that by the time they put 748 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: him on the field, I think things had really started 749 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: to fall apart for the Bills. We don't nobody knows anything. 750 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: We learned this every year in the UH. The lade 751 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: leader in sacks, Lorenzo Alexander, who now has nine on 752 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: the season at West That that really UH that that 753 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: blows ones went away. I have never heard of a 754 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: thirty three year old breakout season for a pass rusher. 755 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: I think it's unprecedented. Some people tweeted me that Trace 756 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: Armstrong had a really good year late in his career 757 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: for the Bears, but he was good before that. Bertram 758 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: Barry had another like late season Indian summer season. These 759 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: guys were good before that. Lorenzo Alexander was a special 760 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: teamer and apparently one of the greatest guys in the NFL, 761 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: because nobody says anything but great things about him. I mean, 762 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: he looked and he had the sack today. But on 763 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: the whole, that linebacking group kind of wasn't as impactful 764 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: as they had been in the past. I mean that 765 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: group with Alexander, the two Browns at Preston and Zach 766 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: and and Jerry Hughes. They have been kind of doing 767 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: a lot of damage today. They were a little bit quieter. 768 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: Do you think the Dolphins are gonna get in a 769 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: little run here? They think there's something here where they 770 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: can get going and get kind of in this playoff picture. Uh, 771 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: coming off a big win like this, I mean, I 772 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: think they can. I think because the defense is starting 773 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: to come around and play better right now. That's a 774 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: big help. And I think they found something with jay 775 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: A g I I mean, I think the biggest thing 776 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: for Adam Gays was to get away from this three 777 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: or four headed running back committee. He was trying to 778 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: run and I think they're gonna have to lean on 779 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: him until Ryan Tannehill can figure it out. If Ryan 780 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: Tannehill can never figure it out. Two things about the 781 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Mary Williams showed up in a big way 782 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: in this game. He uh had an impactful performance. Was 783 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: even I think I don't know who he's hugging a 784 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: coach on the sideline. Clearly was kind of an emotional 785 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: release now that he was able to make an impact 786 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: in this game. And uh Handsome Hank are resident Dolphins 787 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: fan thought and Domininsu played his best game as a 788 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: dolphin in this game. So if he's gonna play like 789 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: the guy they thought they paid a hundred million for. Uh, 790 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: that's a bit. I thought the front seven played very well. 791 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean, whether it's Sue Williams, Cam Wake, those guys 792 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: up front really got after. It's against that Bill's offensive 793 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: line that had been playing as well as any outside 794 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: of Dallas. Really. Um Gelhart plugged the Fantasy podcast and 795 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: he did a great job. But a great plug. I 796 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: will let you pug anything you want, even in your 797 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: personal life. What you know to the ladies out there 798 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: were live on pariscope right now, or I don't know 799 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: anything or about the Fantasy podcast or your own right 800 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: and give us something. Well, how about this we do 801 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: later on the night on Sunday night, I guess should 802 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: say that I do things I learned from the week, 803 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: where I just kind of compile some of the tweets 804 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: of the guys in the Fantasy Stronghold, all the things 805 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: we saw during the day that that kind of caught 806 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: our attention, and so we kind of compile that into 807 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of things that we learned, uh in fantasy football, 808 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: which you know, the takeaway is that we learned that 809 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: we really don't know much of anything. I if I 810 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: were you, I would have sold myself to the female 811 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: fan base. But that was your decisions. Kind of striking 812 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: new hairstyle. I thank you. I've tried to switch it up. 813 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: Go do something new. Is it's a it's a beautiful journey. 814 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate the hairstyles of Marcus. All right, Marcus Grant, 815 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 1: thank you for sitting in, buddy, thank you, and get better, 816 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: sus get better, sess free Sessler. Here we go. Let's 817 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: keep it moving with another a f C game involving 818 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: an an FC East team. To go before halftime. Under 819 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: center is Ryan Fitzpatrick. Anderson motions from left to right. 820 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: That's a thirteen yard lot of Baltimore and back to throw. 821 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick middle screen, caught by forte half the ten half. 822 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: The five powers his way into the end. Zode. That's 823 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: a Jet touchdown and the Jets are a punt after 824 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: away from taking a leave. Were the one to go 825 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: on the first half? That was Bob was Shusen of 826 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: ESPN New York. Yes he's back already. Ryan Fitzpatrick replaced 827 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: and injured Gina Smith played turnover free football and the 828 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: new York just ended their four game losing streak with 829 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 1: a twenty four to sixteen win over the Baltimore Ravens, 830 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: who have now lost four in a row after a 831 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: three and oh start. And uh, you know claim, I mean, 832 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: I don't know Gino Smith. There is some guys are 833 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: just star crossed. And he was the starter as we 834 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: know last summer, gets his job broke over six dollar 835 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 1: playing ticket. Ryan Fitzpatrick takes off to the point where 836 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 1: he throws the most touchdowns in Jets history, then gets 837 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 1: paid off it a one year deal, so fits Factor 838 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: keeps the job, plays like the old Ryan Fitzpatrick. Gino 839 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: finally gets in after what fifteen months out of the 840 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: starting lineup, and he injures his knee. Uh within a 841 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: quarter and a half back to the bench. We don't 842 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: know when we'll see him again. And and the thing 843 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: is with Gino and Sax, it never looks some guys 844 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: look comfortable taking a sac and it's the guy goes 845 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: down and you're not really worried about him. It looks 846 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 1: like real scary danger. Whenever Gino goes down. He saw 847 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: you saw the rookie Udon coming from the other end. 848 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: Gino didn't see him. He turns around, sees him too late, 849 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: and he gets twisted down like that. Nige. You just 850 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: knew that that it wasn't gonna be good. And then 851 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: he's trying to walk it off on the sideline and 852 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: you could you can see in his face and he 853 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: was so happy after that touchdown to a noon one 854 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: was like, yes, finally over. Got punched in the face. 855 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: Everybody blame me for getting punched in the face, and 856 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm the last I'm not gonna question 857 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: anybody how injured they are. We don't know how what's 858 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: going on. But after the game, well, Gino came back 859 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: after the half and street clothes and stood on the 860 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: sideline for the rest of the game, and then after 861 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: the game said it wasn't thought to be a serious 862 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: knee injury, and he didn't and he didn't think anything 863 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: would come out of the m R. I I guess 864 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm wondering a little bit a guy that this this 865 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: amount of time out of the line, but you would 866 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: have to drag the guy off the field. I'm I 867 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: was a little surprised that I saw Ryan Fitzpatrick so quickly, 868 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: unless it was a more serious injury injury. I guess 869 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm calling him out on it, 870 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 1: but it was I'm just saying it was a little 871 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: surprising to be told it was not a serious injury. 872 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: You're not the one. He's out of his uniform by 873 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: the third quarter. Didn't Joe Namath make a similar comment. 874 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: I didn't see what Joe Willie said. He said exactly 875 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: the same thing you did, basically that if if this 876 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: guy can stand on the sideline, he should be in 877 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: the game, which is yeah, it's it's it's weird. It's 878 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 1: always weird when it's like an outright questioning of somebody. 879 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying that Cutler, you can't question anybody. Yeah, 880 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm not totally comfortable doing. Let me just say I 881 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: was surprised that we didn't come back with the report 882 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: that he had a potentially serious injury. Anyway, but let's 883 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: talk about the game a little bit. Fitzpatcher comes and 884 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't do much. He starts seven for seven and 885 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: Lee with that touchdown Dry touchdown past two. Forte doesn't 886 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: really do anything. They take the air out of the 887 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: ball in the second half and the Jets won the game. 888 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: Despite falling behind ten nothing. Because the Ravens and West, 889 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: we talked about this could end up being the worst 890 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: game of the week. It was not a fun game 891 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: to watch the ray evens after pretty good first half 892 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: with Joe Flacco who had the bed shoulder, they were 893 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: terrible in the second half. It was one of the 894 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: worst halves of football you'll see from any team offensively, 895 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: um all season. Uh Flacco through two interceptions that led 896 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: to two ten JET points and that was pretty much 897 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: it at that point. Uh So, the Baltimore offense still lost. 898 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: They're still beat up physically, and now they're losing week 899 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: after week after week. So after starting three and oh, 900 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: you're three and four in deep trouble. So these are 901 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: two teams that most likely are going to be the 902 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: outside looking in. From my perspective, the Ravens are materially 903 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: different on offense than they were early in the season. 904 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: They had one of the best offensive lines in the 905 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: league early when Ronnie Stanley looked like a great rookie, 906 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: left tackle Marcia Yonda the best guard in the league. 907 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: Over the past half decade, those guys have been out 908 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: and then Steve Smith's injury. Who knew that in a 909 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 1: thirty seven year old, thirty eight year old wide receiver 910 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,479 Speaker 1: was that important coming off and achilles injury. They haven't 911 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: been able to move the ball consistently since he went 912 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: down a couple of weeks ago with an ankle injury. 913 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 1: I telled me that that was a law on the 914 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: roster design that you were asking that much from thirty 915 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: thirty eight year old Steve Smith coming off of that injury. 916 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not gonna question that either. I'm 917 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: not gonna question Well. We said that all offseason that 918 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: this teams is many question marks as any team in 919 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: the league just because they're so old. And for the 920 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: second time, uh this season, the Ravens get a turnover 921 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: and then give the other team the ball back and 922 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: actually give them yardage on the same plane that Matt 923 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: Forte had a rush inside the ten yard line with 924 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: the Jets are trying to go in with for a score. 925 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: He fumbles it, ripped away by who is it? Uh, 926 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: Timmy forced it and recovered it, and then for some 927 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: reason acts like he's Walter Payton. He tries to turn 928 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: the corner, tries to put a shaker move on Brandon Marshall, 929 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: and he gets scripped. Yeah, so that was kind of 930 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,720 Speaker 1: this game in a nutshell and then the final point. Um, Actually, 931 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,879 Speaker 1: you know what we could talk about. Ryan Fitzpatrick had 932 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: some strange things to say to the press afterward about 933 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: the team not believing in him. I was not a 934 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: big fan of it, Ryan, Just play the game. Who 935 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: knows if you get another start. But he seems to 936 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: think that the Jets kind of quit on him. But 937 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: I do. Who I really want to hear from is 938 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: not Ryan Fitzpatrick. I gotta hear from my old man, 939 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: Keith Hansis, who week after weeks since the season started, 940 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: has only had losses to talk about on the show, 941 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 1: and finally some good news. His name is Keith, his dad. 942 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: He'll doubt about it. He's a big Jets fan. What 943 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: is he going to say bull game today? What is 944 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: he going to same today? Jets Week seven? Finally they 945 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: get a victory. Uh. Thought the defense played aggressively while 946 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: the offensive played it very passively. UH. And they were 947 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: lucky to get out of that game and win. Because 948 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: he can't play that way. You gotta play outside. You 949 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: gotta play aggressively on both sides of the ball. There 950 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: was one play that. I thought it was one of 951 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: the most amazing plays I've seen in a long time. 952 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: Three fumbles on one play and it's just lucky enough 953 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: at that back can score touchdown. So great, finally one 954 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: fantastic Keith happy. Thank god you needed that we need today. 955 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: The Jets are now two and five. Let's move on, 956 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: talk about another game in the a f C empty 957 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: backfield for Andrew, don't throw a pick, ross to throw, 958 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: don't touch that. Jack Doyle with a catch and a 959 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 1: Colt for a minute to go lead three. Leave the 960 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: whole time. You know, the radio guys having a crisis 961 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: of confidence right before the snap says, please don't throw 962 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: a pick. Bob LaVey, the guy that dropped the f 963 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: bomb of ESPN ten seventy w F and I uh, 964 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, guys, is not the problem in Indianapolis. I repeat, 965 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is not the problem in Indianapolis. The quarterback 966 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: through for three fifty three yards and three touchdowns, including 967 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: the go ahead scored of Jack Doyle that you just heard, 968 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: and the Colts bounce back from the killer law US 969 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 1: to the Texans with a thirty four victory over the 970 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. UH and This game was sealed Gentleman by 971 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: a gray Beer. Robert Mathis had a strip sack led 972 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: to a defensive touchdown that ended any chance of a 973 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: Titans come back in the final minutes. And Mr Clayboyne, 974 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: this is another um shaky game by Marcus Mariota in 975 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 1: the Titans offense. Yeah, and you come into this game, 976 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: you you find out and I didn't. I didn't know this. 977 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 1: They hadn't they hadn't beaten the Colts in five years. 978 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 1: And and so it's you're watching and you're hoping for 979 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: for something to happen. You know that the Cults are 980 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: missing playmakers on the outside, and so what you need 981 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: to do is keep t Y Hilton from getting on 982 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: top of you. And then we're looking up and and 983 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: there's t Y Hilton catching a forty three hard touchdown 984 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: where he's toasting the safety. Uh, they had they had 985 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: that third and goal. We just heard the don't throw 986 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: a pick call. Everybody in their mom it feels like 987 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: it's like, well, Jack Doyle is gonna get this ball. 988 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: Here they are a third and goal. Jack Doyle runs 989 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: a double move and gets wide open, and I don't 990 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: Chris Wise Wise, Marcus turning the ball over so much. 991 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: We talked about this last week that even with those 992 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: passer ratings he's putting up in the touchdowns, he's not 993 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: throwing well. The numbers are a little misleading. He's missing throws. 994 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: He doesn't look as comfortable in that offense as you 995 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: would like him to. And I kind of glanced at 996 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: this game quite a bit today. Every time I looked up, 997 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: he was missing a throw or making a mistake. And 998 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: I know the numbers don't look bad when you look 999 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 1: at I think he finished with a ninety passer rating. 1000 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: He had a late game touchdown drive to Delaney Walker 1001 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: when the Colts kept committing brain dead penalties and the 1002 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: Titans took advantage of it. But Mariota is not playing 1003 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: well despite his recent little string of success. And if 1004 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: you if you tell me that that Delaney Walker is 1005 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: gonna go off, DeMarco Murray's gonna have a hundred yards 1006 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, the Titans are gonna be in 1007 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: this game, but they just and they were, but they 1008 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: couldn't have close and you can't closing your building against uh, 1009 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: let's face it, a faibly flawed Colts team that's probably 1010 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: not going anywhere this year. That really tells you again 1011 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: where you are. But neither team again in the a 1012 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: f C South, which is West. But um two teams 1013 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: that are three and four? Uh, what team do you 1014 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: like better of these two wests? If you want to 1015 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: spin forward by the end of the season looking to 1016 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: the crystal ball, which team will have a better record 1017 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,720 Speaker 1: come the end of the season or the same team? Essentially, 1018 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: I've been saying for a few weeks, I don't I 1019 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: know the rest of the rosters bad and I though 1020 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: you can't have confidence in the coaching staff. But I'm 1021 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,720 Speaker 1: picking the Colts to win this division because of Andrew 1022 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: Luck and for all of the people who have no 1023 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: eye for football and are dying to pounce on Andrew Luck. 1024 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: Take away two of his top three receivers in his 1025 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: number one tight end, and he has the second most 1026 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: completions of fifteen or more yards of any quarterback all season. 1027 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: That's the quarterback Andrew Luck is. Andrew Luck is not 1028 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: a problem. I repeat, Andrew Luck is not the problem. 1029 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: Let's move on third and goal, two yard line, fourteen 1030 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: seconds to go. I think you gotta throw it here. 1031 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: Here's car He's gonna throw right frows and his talk 1032 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: touchdown Michael Crabtree on a quick slant, He'd beat Prince 1033 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: am Okamara on the end and again tom a Moncamarrow 1034 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: was shading him will he moved late. Derek Carr's touched 1035 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: up past the Michael Kravty just before the half gave 1036 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: the Raiders breathing room on their way to a thirty 1037 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: three sixteen win over the Jaguars. Um who you know again? 1038 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: These guys look like total pretenders. West. If you want 1039 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: to get healthy, play Cleveland. But if the Browns aren't available, 1040 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 1: see see If the Jaguars are good, see if they're 1041 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: available to play. And once again, the quarterbacks the problem. 1042 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: I didn't see the game. I got a lot of 1043 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: tweets about Blake Bortles wind up still being an issue, 1044 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 1: and when at halftime he's five of fourteen for fifty 1045 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: seven yards in an interception, it's exactly what happened last week. 1046 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 1: He couldn't move the ball and this time he couldn't. 1047 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: He didn't have a great fourth quarter, or the defense 1048 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 1: wasn't his generous in the fourth quarter like they were 1049 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: last week. But I think the Jaguars are sitting duck. 1050 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna lose just I'm gonna pick them 1051 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: to lose every game until Bortles fixes his delivery. Even 1052 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: the touchdown pass that he did have to Julius Thomas. 1053 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: Julius Thomas had no business catching that ball. There were 1054 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 1: three raiders right around him. And the juxtaposition when you 1055 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: had the comparisons, people were talking quarterback comparisons in the 1056 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: draft class and so called Bortles was way ahead of 1057 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Derek Carr looked like six times the quarterback 1058 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: that Blake Bortles did. That. We heard the touchdown pass 1059 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: to Michael Crabtree the play before that, he's rolling to 1060 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: his right, throws an absolute dime running to to Crabtree 1061 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the half, and then he finishes 1062 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: it off. Crabtreet gets an egregious tawn and call for 1063 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: throwing the ball in the air, which was whatever. Well, 1064 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: I saw a towny call today. I'm trying to think 1065 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: who who got called this time, but it was for 1066 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 1: spinning a football after reception where he was at of 1067 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: bounds because he spun the ball and it was on 1068 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 1: the he was on theos the opposing teams sideline. I 1069 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: guess that was seen as a taunt. I just can't 1070 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: I can't deal with. We gotta make sure the kids 1071 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,479 Speaker 1: at home are watching and they know that this is bad, 1072 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: and they don't grow up, you know, celebrating things that 1073 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: make them happy. The Jaguars are the biggest bust in 1074 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: the league to me because in terms of when you 1075 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: get excited about teams and the way the NFL machine 1076 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 1: cry up throughout the summer, and you look at what 1077 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: this team has become. They're just as bad as they 1078 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: ever were, only now they have more talent than they 1079 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: ever had, or I guess we we think they do. 1080 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: But when if we're gonna start by talking about the 1081 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: quarterback is the problem? Do you really have as much 1082 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: talent as you thought? Because maybe Blake Bortles West is 1083 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: a physically talented passer and he's had numbers that he's 1084 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: put up in his past. But if this guy is 1085 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: like you're saying, has these mechanical flaws and he can't 1086 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 1: move the ball, the team on offense, they are right 1087 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: back where they started in a lot of ways where 1088 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback right now. It's quite the conundrum. 1089 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 1: You've got a quarterback who has all the physical gifts 1090 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 1: that you want. And in two of the three years 1091 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 1: he's played, he's been undone by faulty mechanics that you're 1092 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: coaching staff can't fix in season. So that's a problem. Offseason, 1093 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna fix him, and then as soon as September 1094 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: starts again, he's broken again. That puts your franchise in 1095 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: a really weird place, and you might have to consider 1096 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback next year, end of coaching staff and maybe 1097 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: a GM. I mean, you can't have your quarterback holding 1098 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: the whole team hostage every week. You either fix it 1099 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: with a new coaching staff or you go get a 1100 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: new quarterback. But you can't. You can't live this way. 1101 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: If I had, if I had to guess, I would 1102 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: think that they're gonna say Bortles has the talent and 1103 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 1: he's flash the ability that we're not gonna or a 1104 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: different direction, we were gonna go with another coaching And 1105 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame them for thinking that, because they've seen 1106 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 1: those traits on film that he can do it if 1107 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 1: his deliveries right. And it's broken right now. I forget 1108 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: who to to shout out. I saw the tweet that 1109 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: Bordles in thirty six career games, has fifty two turnovers. 1110 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's a lot. And uh, you know quietly 1111 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 1: the Raiders five and two and undefeated halfway through their 1112 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 1: road schedule four and oh, that's a nice little trade 1113 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 1: for a team that uh uh if they don't uh, 1114 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: if they do get back to the playoffs for the 1115 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 1: first time and then they don't beat out the Broncos 1116 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: and the around the road in the playoff game, keeping 1117 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: eye on the Raiders who don't have any fear of 1118 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 1: going on the road. Uh, let's check out another team 1119 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: in the a f C. West Breeze takes it, has 1120 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: a pocket, now throws it laid over the middle of 1121 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: the past, is going to be deflected and intercepted. Sorr 1122 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: int out the forty thirty thirty five Sorenson fifteen touts 1123 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:08,720 Speaker 1: back cliff turn five touchdown Chansas City on a forty 1124 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 1: five yard pick six by Daniel Sorenson, who for the 1125 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: first time in his career can swim in the neck 1126 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: for the end zone. Fitch Mitch Houltless of Casey f 1127 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 1: X with calls him in the next or in the 1128 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: end zone. Yes, Daniel Sarson do it? Don't you want 1129 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: to drink. You know it's contaminated. Now. Sorenson had a 1130 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: pick six of Drew Brees as you just stared in 1131 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City. That just enough, uh in their building, a 1132 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: win over the New Orleans Saints, who continue to struggle 1133 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: when not on their playground in the Superdome. Mr Clay 1134 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: bound the Chiefs. There we go again there, four and 1135 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 1: two right in the mix here in the m C 1136 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: Playoffs playoff race. Do they do? Do they deserve more 1137 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: respect than they're getting? I think they do, And mainly 1138 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: that's a product of number eleven playing quarterback for them, 1139 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: and so people kind of sleep on Alex Smith. But 1140 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: he did what he needed to do. But in this game, 1141 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 1: the Saints, they outgained them four hundred sixty three yards 1142 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: to three. Breeze had had three touchdowns. We heard the 1143 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 1: call and the swords and uh interception return for the touchdown. 1144 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: Sweeten nectar, baby yeah, gets gets that, sweet nectar. Nobody 1145 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 1: had a faster sixty yards shuttle than Daniel Sorenson in 1146 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: the past ten years as a as a wide receiver 1147 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 1: or safety or anybody. Some corners beat him, But that 1148 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 1: guy can run. I've never even heard of him before 1149 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: this speedy guy to b Yu anyway, checking the con 1150 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: stats there while Sydney behind the glass raising the roof, 1151 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: bringing back raising the roof in honor of her friend Mr. 1152 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:41,399 Speaker 1: Sorenson's been She's very happy. If city is happy, I'm happy. Yeah, 1153 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: that made that happy for everybody. But it's really um. 1154 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: This was an example of the Saints just not making 1155 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: the big play. We saw Spencer Wear score the long 1156 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 1: touchdown on the screen pass. Saints had opportunities Ingram had 1157 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: the fumble in the red zone the right after, right 1158 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 1: after the drive where he had the touchdown, and they 1159 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: just they gave they gave things away. I want I 1160 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 1: need some help with this. Uh. Jamal Charles was active 1161 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: in this game, and there were some reports that maybe 1162 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: he was having some knee issues, but he was active 1163 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,720 Speaker 1: in this game. He got the ball, he got one carry, 1164 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 1: he did not get a yard in the his solitary rush. Uh. 1165 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: Spencer Ware, who obviously here is there running back in 1166 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: the future years old, seventy seven yards and seventeen carries. 1167 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: Also did some damage as a receiver too, for fifty 1168 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: four in a touch Uh. West, Why isn't Jamal Charles 1169 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: more involved in this team? Why is it. What is 1170 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: something going on that you know about? You already highlighted it. 1171 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: His knees not right. I mean we heard that during 1172 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: the week that his knee he looked like he suffered 1173 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: a setback. So I even give him the ball? Why 1174 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 1: is he involved in that? That's a good question. I 1175 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: think that would be my question. Why not you start 1176 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: shark Kendrick West as your backup running back? If Jamal 1177 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: Charles knee isn't right, you sit him down and get 1178 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: it right. That would be my way to approach you. 1179 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: If if he was just a scratch, I would understand 1180 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: it a little bit more. But the fact that they 1181 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 1: had him act that they gave him the ball once, 1182 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't feeling right. I don't know. It just 1183 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: is two weeks after he himself said he's as fast 1184 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: as he ever was. Maybe the setback. But something's going 1185 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: on here. You can still you can still be fast, 1186 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: but it's probably a little bit different when you're when 1187 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: you're coming back and you wanted to make cuts in 1188 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: a game where guys are diving around at your legs. 1189 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 1: I think we probably what happened was they had to 1190 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: carry They asked him how he felt and he was 1191 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: honest at that point. And and you know how many 1192 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: t surgeries for uh fourth one is coming up as 1193 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: soon as number four on the way? Yeah, we get 1194 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: Uh some people talk about that like how they have 1195 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: babies on the way. Uh, well you do, congratulations on that, 1196 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 1: but you also, oh your fourth huh good? Is your 1197 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: history of neat trouble? Is that why you refused our 1198 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: invitations to get you out on the softball field? No, 1199 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: I refuse. We've had this conversation. It was extensively, exclusively 1200 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 1: based on the fact that I'm an embarrassing softball player. 1201 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: But then, uh, after the discussion, through the length the 1202 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: analysis of the team, I realized midway through the season 1203 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 1: that I could have provided something And that bothers me 1204 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: to this day because you guys had an emotional, fantastic 1205 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 1: season and I was only a part of as a fan. 1206 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 1: You would have gotten a ring out of it. Yeah, 1207 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: that's that's a huge regret. On That's something that sticks 1208 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: with somebody. I understand that. All right, let's move on 1209 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: and talk about I'm not too excited about this game, 1210 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: but we talked about every game on the Flagship Show. 1211 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: Every game. Uh, let's move on. To a game that 1212 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: was played at the big ball bottom. The snap play action, 1213 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 1: fake dropping, Weinston looking with those of past toward the end, 1214 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: caught ball touchdown, Tampa Day went some throws at the 1215 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: Russell Shepherd Helifox takes the lead, Tampa Bay comes back 1216 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: from the dead and the first touchdown grabb of the season, 1217 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: the second career touchdown by Russell Shephard, you're dead. They're 1218 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: down fourteen nothing to the forty Niners. That that's as 1219 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: close to catatonic as it git Jamis Winston, that call, 1220 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: by the way, was Geene Decker half a w f us. 1221 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston through three touchdown passes and j Queis ro 1222 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: ran for a hundred and fifty four yards to lead 1223 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,439 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to a thirty four seventeen win 1224 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: over the San Francisco forty Niners. Um, this was a game, 1225 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: uh that the forty Niners jumped out to an early 1226 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 1: fourteen nothing lead, but Tampa Bay came back and West, 1227 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: I know we don't love uh either of these teams. 1228 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Kind of give the Bucks credit. Gotta give him some credit. 1229 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 1: I thought they were stinking dog team that deserved no 1230 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: respect and that you gotta give him credit for two 1231 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: straight wins. Carolina blew the previous week's game, so you know, 1232 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't really ready to give him, but they come 1233 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 1: back from fourteen nothing down in this game. And Quiz 1234 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers is a season saver, guy who had never had 1235 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: eighteen carry more than eighteen carries in a game, has 1236 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: fifty six combined in the last two games. He's got 1237 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 1: and hits a hundred yards and both of those games 1238 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: looks like a legit NFL starter, and that guy to 1239 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 1: win in the NFL, you need guys to step in 1240 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: like that, and that's the Quiz Rodgers is not a 1241 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 1: very large person either, getting huge volume carries in the 1242 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: middle of the field, and he's coming between the tackles. 1243 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: These aren't These aren't pitches to the outside, trying to 1244 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 1: beat it out of the corner. And Jamis had the 1245 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: typical early Jamis interception, but he didn't follow that up 1246 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: with another one, and then bad quarterback play. He was good, 1247 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: Mike Evans was good, but then you you also got 1248 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 1: a look at the opponent as well. In San Francisco 1249 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: kind of wilted towards the end. They made some pushes, 1250 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: but then they they were. We talked about how important 1251 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman is to this defense, as important as any 1252 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: linebacker in the NFL to his own defense, considering what 1253 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 1: they have behind him, and they've been an absolute train 1254 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: wreck against the run since losing Bowman now sitting to 1255 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: my right, is a monster, both in terms of the 1256 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: way that he attacks NFL analysis downstairs in the newsroom 1257 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: and also physical build. The very muscular, handsome young man. 1258 01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,120 Speaker 1: Nick Schuck of the NFL dot Com news team out 1259 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: joins us. He pinch hit with some really good write ups. Uh, 1260 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: starting with Tampa Bay, San Francisco. What didn't we see? 1261 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: Mr Show? How are you bout it? I'm fantastic Becau 1262 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 1: as you call him, the bound something congratulation, congradulations Cleveland guy, 1263 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 1: and got the India? How about the Indians? By the way, 1264 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 1: this is very Cleveland in a way. Even though we 1265 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: can this is we could start saying that stuff. What's 1266 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 1: less because they're starting to win all the time, but uh, 1267 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 1: first time they're in the World Series since ninety seven. 1268 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: They haven't won since what forty? And nobody's gonna root 1269 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: for him. Everyone's gonna be rooting for the damn Cubs 1270 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 1: because the Cubs haven't one since nineteen o eight. I 1271 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,439 Speaker 1: don't believe in damning the Cubs. What do you think about. 1272 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: Here's the thing we're used to being against the world. 1273 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: There's a there's a saying of Cleveland against the world, 1274 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 1: Ohio against the world. It jumped on board with the 1275 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: Ohio state a few years ago, and uh, it was 1276 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: with the Calves the whole time too, So we're used 1277 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 1: to I do that is you would think, and maybe 1278 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 1: Hot take on Budsman Patrick Cleveland could shoot this down, 1279 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 1: but nobody believes in us angle that the Indians could 1280 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 1: ride hard going into this World Series. I kind of 1281 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: like that because it's not a it's not something they 1282 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 1: have to talk themselves into. It's a real thing. This 1283 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,439 Speaker 1: is the World Series is gonna get its highest ratings 1284 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,479 Speaker 1: and years. Uh, and everyone is gonna be watching because 1285 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 1: they want to see the Cubs break the carts to 1286 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the Billy Goat. That's that's certainly a thing that they 1287 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: could say, but you know, oh take it down as me. 1288 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 1: I guess I'm required to say that that's not gonna 1289 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,479 Speaker 1: have any impact on whether the balls are fair or foul. 1290 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: And that is why he is the hot take on Budsman. 1291 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 1: All right, Nick, back to this game. Uh, Colin Kaepernick, 1292 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 1: Catty look uh good early. Uh the the the offense 1293 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: was efficient, got down the field in just a handful 1294 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: of plays, and it almost looked too easy. I was like, 1295 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: this isn't the forty Niners. I used to watching um 1296 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: and it was encouraging. And then it all fell apart. 1297 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: They went up fourteen to nothing and then couldn't do 1298 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 1: anything for much of the game while the defense struggled 1299 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 1: to stop the run and Tampa Bay slowly but surely 1300 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: took over and they never could really counter. Thirty four 1301 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 1: to three, outscored. Uh the Bucks outscored the Niners in 1302 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 1: the last three quarters. Uh do you want to can 1303 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: you stick a stick around and talk a little Browns 1304 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: from all right, let's move on, said Dalton, back to throw. 1305 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 1: We're down to five seconds left and a half. He's 1306 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: gonna throw a high, deep hail Mary pass into the 1307 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 1: MTG and it is boy Jan makes the catch. I'm 1308 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 1: the ricochet hail Mary, a forty nine yard touchdown pass 1309 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: as a prairie is answered in the end zone by 1310 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: Adriol Cheremiah dream the voice of my teenage years that's 1311 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Dave Lapham cheering in the background. I recognize that voice. Anyway, Hey, 1312 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 1: you know what, if you're gonna be a homer, be 1313 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: a homer, go all the way Lapham did it there. 1314 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 1: Dan Horde also on the call there w c k Y, 1315 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 1: ESPN thirty. Yes, the Cleveland Calves are champs and the 1316 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,720 Speaker 1: Indians are the World Series. But the Browns, well, they're 1317 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: still the Browns. Andy Dalton through for three touchdowns, including 1318 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 1: that first half ending Hail Mary answer to what Adrian 1319 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Green in a thirty one seventeen win for Cincinnati 1320 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: over Cleveland. Mr Nick shook a lot of concern about 1321 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 1: that since the offense this season. But then they roll 1322 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: up five and fifty nine yards on Cleveland. They all good. Now, well, 1323 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,479 Speaker 1: here's the thing that that whole heavy side, that's years 1324 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 1: of of you know, um, that whole great thing, you know, 1325 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 1: with the Calves and the Indians going, well, this Hail 1326 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: Mary epitomized what is Cleveland and and what is the Browns? 1327 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: And what have have been the Browns for the last 1328 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, most of the last two decades. So yeah, 1329 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 1: there's a reason for encouragement on Cincinnati's side. But then again, 1330 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 1: you are playing the Browns, whose defensive starters. I believe 1331 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 1: they started a defensive back that even I had trouble 1332 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: identifying it first, and I'd pretty much know the team 1333 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: inside and out. So uh yeah, you're playing against guys 1334 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 1: who were borderline scaps and Cody Kessler he got hurt again. 1335 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 1: So you're seeing you're way more of Kevin Hogan than 1336 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 1: you ever wanted to in your life. Hollywood, Kevin Hogan, 1337 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: who broke a hundred yards on the ground today on 1338 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 1: seven crazy little crazy legs. Hogan. No, you know, remember 1339 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 1: that one time when uh Tony Sperrano shocked defenses with 1340 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: the wildcat that was Kevin Hogan in the shotgun in 1341 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: the read option. No one saw that one coming very 1342 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: nice and and west. You know. I am always have 1343 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 1: my my eye, uh looking at the um next Gens 1344 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 1: stats with IM. But I do like seeing because everyone 1345 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 1: runs twenty one miles, everyone runs twenty cybernetic eye. I 1346 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 1: do like Jeremy Hill ripping off a seventy four yard touchdown, 1347 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 1: so on top out of twenty point one seven miles Brown, 1348 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: it's pretty fast for Jeremy Hill. I kind of like that. 1349 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill is not fast for an NFL starting running back. 1350 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,439 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Like it's like, oh, he goes 1351 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 1: twenty point one and the other guy goes twenty one 1352 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: point one and one guy slow as hell and the 1353 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: other guy's a speeds there I can't keep up with all. Well, 1354 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,960 Speaker 1: it's because your deal with like David Johnson runs just 1355 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 1: over twenty two at his fastest, and he's one of 1356 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: the fastest running backs in the league. So there's only 1357 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 1: what point two mile per hour difference between a slow 1358 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 1: running back and a fast running back by NFL terms. Yeah, 1359 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: and you know, so Cincinnati gets a win uh that 1360 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 1: they needed, Uh, you know, get healthy win for the 1361 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Bengals and on the brown side, and Nick will will 1362 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 1: leave you with this your thoughts on this um now 1363 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: oh and seven, and there was there was this run 1364 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: for most of the season where they've been competitive and 1365 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 1: they're hanging around the games. Are you worried that not 1366 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: being able to steal any of those games as the 1367 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: injuries rack up, that you could be entering into that 1368 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 1: dangerous oh and twelve, oh and thirty, are you worried 1369 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 1: a little bit about the Big Zil show crank up? 1370 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: The Loggins and we're going to the danger zone without 1371 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: a doubt, Without a doubt, this team is very, very 1372 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 1: capable of going oh in sixteen. And everybody says, oh, 1373 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to go oh in sixteen. But 1374 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: with the turnover on the roster from week to week, 1375 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 1: it's it's almost on residented. The fact that we've looked 1376 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 1: at now six quarterbacks for the Browns and all the 1377 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 1: other injuries are dealing with everywhere else. I keep pinning 1378 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 1: as they might steal one against San Diego in week fourteen, 1379 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 1: but san Diego starting to turn it around. San Diego 1380 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: is a much better team exactly, so they could very 1381 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,360 Speaker 1: well go oh in sixteen. See this is it's good 1382 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 1: to have shooken here because the light went out behind 1383 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,760 Speaker 1: Cessler's eyes talking about the brown So it's kind of 1384 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: like it's hard to get to these kind of takes 1385 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 1: from Mark. But Nick younger, less world weary, is able 1386 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 1: to just share the pathos of being a Browns fans 1387 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,640 Speaker 1: in a different way, and we thank you for that. 1388 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, all right, Nick Shook exits the building. 1389 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 1: If I ever become tremendously successful, and Nick gets hit 1390 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 1: with hit with a felony or something and is unable 1391 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 1: to build on his sports career. I'm going to hire 1392 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:53,439 Speaker 1: him as my bodyguard manager everything else that doesn't happen. Okay, 1393 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 1: I would tell very well. I mean it hopefully doesn't 1394 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: get hit with a felony at some reasons. No felonies 1395 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,799 Speaker 1: for sure, because it is a talented writer and obviously 1396 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 1: knows this stuff and is a Cleveland die hard. Cleveland 1397 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: die hards he puts on for the city and it's 1398 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 1: it's it's good to see the up so we hate 1399 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: seeing the downs. But I was happy to see Nick 1400 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 1: able to tweet through a Cavalier's championship and who knows 1401 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:34,560 Speaker 1: which takes us to Sunday Night. Sunday Night better and 1402 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 1: moved by hands juice, one more carry, Get me Gone? 1403 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: Where do we start? Chris Wessling on the Sunday night 1404 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 1: football game between the Seattle Seahawks and Arizona Cardinals. One 1405 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 1: of the strangest endings to a game that I have 1406 01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 1: ever seen personally, And uh and and west first of 1407 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,720 Speaker 1: all six six tie, We'll start right there? Are you 1408 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 1: freaking kidding me? Six six tie? Game could have ended 1409 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,839 Speaker 1: in no other way between the Seattle Seahawks and Arizona Cardinals, 1410 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,679 Speaker 1: a game in which we went into overtime at three three. 1411 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 1: Cardinals held the lead three nothing deep into the fourth quarter, 1412 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Seattle ties it up late, we go into over to time. 1413 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,680 Speaker 1: Of course, after only six points in sixty minutes. The 1414 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:31,439 Speaker 1: teams then trade field goals in overtime, and then what happens. 1415 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals take over. And uh, I still can't 1416 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,559 Speaker 1: believe this. We're even talking about this right now. I'm 1417 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 1: still stunned. The Arizona Cardinals take over. Uh, their second 1418 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 1: position of overtime, they go down the field. Uh, there's 1419 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 1: a play in which it appears David Johnson kicks a 1420 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 1: pylon and the ball is very close to going over. 1421 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 1: But instead of um, you know, the inside two minutes, 1422 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,640 Speaker 1: while we weren't inside two minutes yet, so there was 1423 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: no review coming from upstairs, and instead of Cardinals taking 1424 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 1: a look at it, they ran a quick play to 1425 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 1: Johnson again it got stuffed on third down. All right, 1426 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,000 Speaker 1: they're good. Everything's good with the Cardinals. They're gonna win 1427 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 1: this game. First score wins after those first two positions possessions. 1428 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: All they need is Chandler catan Zaro captain zero. I 1429 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 1: won't forget that name. Zaro Chandler, Catan zero, captain zero, 1430 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 1: Captain zero, to make a damn kick. We're talking twenty 1431 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 1: four yards. Twenty four yards? You see that, bright It's 1432 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 1: no good. How in the world it has been a nightmare. 1433 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:49,560 Speaker 1: It has been a nightmare for this thing. Heyinks it? 1434 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:55,360 Speaker 1: Cantan zero, Captain zero, Captain zero, youinks it? West and 1435 01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,960 Speaker 1: why explained to the audience why this game had been 1436 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 1: a nightmare to this point point even before that kick, 1437 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 1: wasn't a nightmare in anyway. No, no, no, no, I'm 1438 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,519 Speaker 1: talking about for the Cardinals. It should have never even 1439 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 1: been in this position to start with. Oh my god, 1440 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 1: so much has happened. I don't even know why. Well, 1441 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,719 Speaker 1: they they outgained Seattle. Oh they had eight team first 1442 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 1: down to four for Seattle with a minute left. They 1443 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 1: had three two yards to a hundred and five for 1444 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Seattle with a minute left. David Johnson had fifty three 1445 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,599 Speaker 1: more yards in the entire Seattle offense, despite having thirty 1446 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 1: five yards worth their holding penalties. The Cardinals had thoroughly 1447 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 1: outplayed them. So then Seattle takes over the whole buildings 1448 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,640 Speaker 1: in Shock West and I were just sitting here catatonic, 1449 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,599 Speaker 1: and Seattle goes down the field. Doug Baldwin springs free 1450 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 1: on a mistackle from Honey Badger. Looks like he's going 1451 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 1: into end the game. He's to get stopped just short. 1452 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,600 Speaker 1: And Pete Carroll he can't believe his luck. He's like, 1453 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 1: where Seattle, Seahawks, We're about to steal another freaking game 1454 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 1: like this. Sends one of the best kickers in the 1455 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,640 Speaker 1: league out there, Stephen how Is get out on the 1456 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,799 Speaker 1: field for a twenty eight yard attempt with eleven seconds 1457 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 1: to play in the overtime period, a chip shot much 1458 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 1: shorter than the current p A T game over right, 1459 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 1: John Ryan, thehol Hey passion ship. That's impossible. Oh my god, 1460 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:18,560 Speaker 1: that is impossible. Oh my goodness, gracious, that could not 1461 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 1: have happened. You know what, Maybe this is justice for 1462 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 1: all concerned, O Man, great call, and Al. When Al 1463 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 1: says it's impossible, that guy's seen it all, he yaints 1464 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 1: it as well. And that's it. The game is Two 1465 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,519 Speaker 1: plays later the Cardinals, the clock runs out six six 1466 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Thaie West and your thoughts on the game, because I 1467 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,560 Speaker 1: think your thoughts and I certainly agree with you. A 1468 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 1: lot of people on Twitter saying, oh, perfect way for 1469 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 1: this horrible games and what are your thoughts about this game? 1470 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 1: What a beautiful, beautiful mess of a ball game. The 1471 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 1: best game of the year in my opinion. Two teams 1472 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: with playoff intensity. One the mentally toughest football team I've 1473 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,840 Speaker 1: seen in the twenty one century, the Seattle Seahawks of 1474 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,719 Speaker 1: the past half decade, and the Cardinals are a team 1475 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,439 Speaker 1: that is now a defense heavy team that tries to 1476 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,919 Speaker 1: stand blow to blow with a team like the Seahawks. 1477 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 1: They needed this game. They're now three three and one. 1478 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 1: Three other next four games are at Carolina, at Minnesota, 1479 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 1: and at Atlanta. They were desperate, they knew they needed 1480 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 1: this game. It was a dog fight, and you saw 1481 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,200 Speaker 1: the results on the field with two defenses just going 1482 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 1: toe to toe and smash mouth game. I loved every 1483 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,360 Speaker 1: minute of it. So much on the line in this game, 1484 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, and a lot of this. I think 1485 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 1: people who have various fantasy players in the lineups of 1486 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 1: these two teams. That's what people are barking about, because 1487 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 1: that's part of what the NFL fandom is about now. 1488 01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,640 Speaker 1: But if you're somebody that looks beyond that, This was 1489 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 1: a really intense effort as West side on both sides. 1490 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 1: But you know it's the kickers will How will be 1491 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,800 Speaker 1: how this game is remembered and contend Zara when they 1492 01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:01,600 Speaker 1: contend Zara, cat and Zara and I'm I'm cooked. I 1493 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 1: went to school with a kid two years older than 1494 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 1: me whose last name was Captain zero. That's the only 1495 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 1: reason he his thousand yards stare after his miss on 1496 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 1: the sideline. And you felt for the kid because that's 1497 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 1: not It doesn't get much worse. And you know who 1498 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 1: didn't let him off the hook after the game was 1499 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. Uh this from Clarence Hill Uh is fourth 1500 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 1: Star Telegraph? Is that hill Fort Star Telegram? I think 1501 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 1: so Arians has no sympathy for his kicker. Uh the 1502 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,200 Speaker 1: quote this is professional. This ain't high school. Baby. You 1503 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,720 Speaker 1: got you get paid to make it. And listen. Absolutely 1504 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 1: that game was over. And I tweeted before how missed 1505 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,320 Speaker 1: his kick that this was gonna be to me one 1506 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 1: of the worst losses I had ever seen a team 1507 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 1: suffer because they essentially had the ball. Uh. If I 1508 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 1: check out this, uh the play by play here, they 1509 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 1: had the ball first down basically at Seattle's goal line 1510 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 1: and they brought out the kicker. I'm gonna start calling 1511 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,040 Speaker 1: the kicker because I can't say his name Captain zero 1512 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,680 Speaker 1: yes like a stroke or he's not gonna invite you 1513 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,640 Speaker 1: over for sphetts. I feel like, yeah, I feel like 1514 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,000 Speaker 1: regarding Henry after watching this game. But uh, to miss, 1515 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,639 Speaker 1: to miss that kick. They brought him out on third 1516 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,680 Speaker 1: down just to make sure the snap was fine. They 1517 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,679 Speaker 1: probably could have rushed at one more time with David 1518 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 1: Johnson and just forget about all this and maybe teams 1519 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 1: will learn because kickers get the yips. It's a tough position. 1520 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals fans have to be so confused by this game 1521 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 1: because the coach who goes by the mantra no risk it, 1522 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 1: no biscuit no longer coaches like he has that kind 1523 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 1: of team. He should have run Johnson one more time, 1524 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: because that's the no risk it, no biscuit approach, but 1525 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 1: he he doesn't have the firepower anymore to throw caution 1526 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 1: to the wind. And I think that we picked up 1527 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,000 Speaker 1: on this. Mark has been saying this for a couple 1528 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 1: of weeks that Arians doesn't have the same mojo this year, 1529 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 1: and that's probably part of it. He just doesn't have 1530 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 1: the same innate confidence and the makeup, well not the makeup, 1531 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 1: but like the firepower are of his offense this year 1532 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,719 Speaker 1: and how miss was uh equally bad, maybe not quite 1533 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 1: as bad, but it is very close to as bad. 1534 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 1: But you know, in a way, it was perfect for 1535 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 1: this game to end this way because the Seahawks uh 1536 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 1: probably didn't deserve to win the game at that point, 1537 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,560 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals, you know, they played, they played a 1538 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,519 Speaker 1: far superior game in a lot of ways, and they 1539 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 1: just could not finish it. So that's where we are. 1540 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,800 Speaker 1: Three three and one for the Cardinals, four one and 1541 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 1: one for the Seahawks. And that again, you say it's 1542 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:35,280 Speaker 1: a terrible game, Twitter Verse, come back to us because 1543 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 1: that was not a beautiful symphony of football, but it 1544 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 1: was fun and entertaining and wild and memorable. I say, 1545 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:43,640 Speaker 1: if you don't think that was a beautiful game, you 1546 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 1: need a more sophisticated football palette. Bang deal with that, 1547 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,559 Speaker 1: all right. I just want to thank everyone who helped 1548 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,760 Speaker 1: out today. This was a kitchen Sinc. Podcast with some 1549 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 1: people down, missing somebody, So a special thank you uh 1550 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,920 Speaker 1: to Alex Gale, horror uh to Marcus Grant, to Nick 1551 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 1: shook A, special extra thank you to Patrick Claiban who, 1552 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 1: on short notice stepped in for the whole show. He 1553 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,000 Speaker 1: can be with us obviously for the Sunday night game, 1554 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,840 Speaker 1: which we would have mentioned earlier on, but we were 1555 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 1: just so frazzled by what happened on Sunday Night Football. 1556 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 1: In a special extra thank you too, Las Sid, who 1557 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 1: put it all together. That's why she's on Mount Rushmore 1558 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,559 Speaker 1: and is one of the greatest in the business. Let's 1559 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: go home, man, I am I'm shredded mostly Cato stan 1560 01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 1: Hanzas signing off for The mail Man and Las Sid 1561 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,200 Speaker 1: Come back, grag, come back Mark. We'll see you guys 1562 01:18:40,439 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: on Tuesday tw