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Speaker 1: It is me Joey p That of course is the Welsh,
Speaker 1: and it's you the Peanuts, the Cracker Jacks.
Speaker 2: On a Monday morning, it's hazy, hot and humid here
Speaker 2: in New Jersey, and as always it's just plain old
Speaker 2: hot where the Welsh is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna have some rain this week, so I
Speaker 2: gotta get the pool in today, Welsh. Today, I told
Speaker 2: the kids, I'm going swimming whither or what out you
Speaker 2: get in that pool because it was like rain the
Speaker 2: rest of the days to come this week. But this
Speaker 2: weekend was fun for baseball action. Garrett Cole laboring through
Speaker 2: ninety seven degree weather here in the New York area.
Speaker 1: Don't hunt me because it wasn't great start. He was
Speaker 1: with Garrett Cole.
Speaker 3: How did Louis heal?
Speaker 1: Do Louis yesterday? He did better?
Speaker 2: You still trust him for the next one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty from I don't or fifty innings and.
Speaker 3: I trust no one. I trust absolutely no.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so this is great. You basically got a
Speaker 2: gift from Louise Heel. So let's start there with the headlines. Welsh,
Speaker 2: he was good, Raphael Devers two home runs in that
Speaker 2: same game, nine strikeouts for Heel, six and two thirds,
Speaker 2: no walks, which is interesting because again he is second
Speaker 2: only to Tristan mackenzie and walks this year forty eight
Speaker 2: to Mackenzie's forty nine. So in terms of active pitchers,
Speaker 2: he is the leader. So I think he'll gave everybody
Speaker 2: a gift, which is he gave him a really good
Speaker 2: start before the All Star break to get out from
Speaker 2: under Louis Heel. Do you see things differently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be the case. I'm willing to acknowledge that,
Speaker 3: like I took my l already of being like, you know,
Speaker 3: screw it, Louise Heel is going to be this and that,
Speaker 3: like the innings are, they're clearly putting something onto him,
Speaker 3: like he is clearly wearing down in some type of capacity.
Speaker 3: The Yankees haven't given us a full clear path of
Speaker 3: what they are going to do, which I think that's
Speaker 3: what leaves it the most muddy and those muddy kind
Speaker 3: of ideas are also going to be something we're going
Speaker 3: to focus on here in a little bit with another guy.
Speaker 3: But would I would say, from Luis Hill's standpoint, if
Speaker 3: you get past the like is it going to go
Speaker 3: to bullpen and blah blah blah, this is what we
Speaker 3: wanted to get back. I think we I had mentioned
Speaker 3: the last couple starts it has been just his zone control.
Speaker 3: It's it's really like a lot of these guys, and
Speaker 3: I talked about this actually on CBS last week with
Speaker 3: Christopher Sanchez. Christopher Sanchez had been incredible, but he gets
Speaker 3: all of his strikeouts on like one primary off speed
Speaker 3: pitch and then it's like, you know, a sinker in
Speaker 3: a fastball that doesn't do much. If you don't throw
Speaker 3: the fastballs in the zone, you're not setting anything else
Speaker 3: up and you won't get the case. And he was
Speaker 3: just and heel had just been. When he's in the zone,
Speaker 3: it's dead red middle people are slamming it. This was
Speaker 3: a start. He was almost sixty percent zone fastball, forty
Speaker 3: seven percent slider. And that also really shows you, Okay,
Speaker 3: that slider it's going to give people fits of the
Speaker 3: thirty four that he ended up throwing, fifteen of them
Speaker 3: were either foul offs or called strikes, which I think
Speaker 3: is pretty impressive. So he ended up having twelve cald
Speaker 3: strikes and whiffs on the slider thirty three percent with
Speaker 3: rate and everything was up in that start fastball a
Speaker 3: full mile per hour, slider a full mile per hour.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's getting set to take that next stage and
Speaker 3: gear up a little bit. Yankees are gonna need him
Speaker 3: unless they're gonna go make a big move, and I
Speaker 3: don't think they do. So I am still a tiny
Speaker 3: bit optimistic that the heel is done. Thing might be over.
Speaker 3: But you might need to look. This might be a
Speaker 3: good opportunity to get out if you are. If you're worried,
Speaker 3: and you kind of should be a little bit, you should.
Speaker 1: Be a lot of bit. I will say this way.
Speaker 2: We disagree on one thing here, which is the Yankees
Speaker 2: won't go get somebody else. The Yankees will The Yankees
Speaker 2: didn't move make this move for Sodo here with no
Speaker 2: guarantees to not push the Chips into the middle.
Speaker 3: I meant big. I don't think they're gonna go make.
Speaker 1: A O I do.
Speaker 2: I don't know who it's going to be yet those
Speaker 2: pieces of yet to follow, those dominoes.
Speaker 1: Is it a bat or is it a bat or
Speaker 1: a picture? To you, I think it's a pitcher first
Speaker 1: and foremost. I think that is really what they have
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: They need insurance here for multiple things, and they needed
Speaker 2: you know, I was on air live on Saturday during
Speaker 2: the Garrett Cole start. Joe Vernier and I were doing
Speaker 2: that game live for Sports Grewed, and you know we
Speaker 2: were talking about you know, he was up to fifty
Speaker 2: pitches in the second inning. Basically it was just like geez,
Speaker 2: you know, just inefficient. But I give a lot of credit.
Speaker 2: He labored through. He did not throw in the towel.
Speaker 2: The Yankees Ben Rice carried him in that game. Two
Speaker 2: home runs for him in that game. That was a
Speaker 2: must win. You need to win those games where Garrett Cole, right,
Speaker 2: Garrett Cole needs to. You need to win those starts
Speaker 2: when Cole's on the mound right now, because that's how
Speaker 2: you stop the bleeding of this losing streak that the
Speaker 2: Yankees have been on. Frankly, another streak. Speaking of streaks,
Speaker 2: all time great Jose Miranda all time record twelve consecutive
Speaker 2: at bats, twelve consecutive hits.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Royce Lewis goes down Byron Bucks didn't picks them up,
Speaker 2: and Jose Miranda picking them up. Brooks Lee our guy
Speaker 2: also picking them up too. He's been very good, so
Speaker 2: Lee another guy in this mix.
Speaker 1: Oh that's okay.
Speaker 2: It was just for a minute. It's just a blip
Speaker 2: on the radar. It's hot here. I told you the
Speaker 2: internet it's being weird today. But don't worry. No puppets here,
Speaker 2: No puppets. But what I was saying was, Jose Miranda is, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, buyer bucks to those guys. Brooks Lee carrying
Speaker 2: the torch here with Royce Lewis being out, but how
Speaker 2: long can this last?
Speaker 1: For this Twins lineup?
Speaker 3: By the way, I was completely caught off guard by that.
Speaker 3: I couldn't even puppet Joe it because I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I think that's me, but it was you. So I
Speaker 3: apologize to everybody that was ready for puppet Joe there,
Speaker 3: and I wasn't ready for it. I was looking to
Speaker 3: drop the ball, dropped the ball, he did not. I
Speaker 3: was a year early on Jose Miranda two last year
Speaker 3: the talk up of just what a great hitter this
Speaker 3: guy was, and nothing came together last year he ended
Speaker 3: up hitting two to eleven. There was no power to
Speaker 3: speak up. This is the version of the minor league guy.
Speaker 3: I don't know if people remember, like Jose Miranda was
Speaker 3: a menas I believe it was in twenty and twenty two,
Speaker 3: an absolute menace in the minor leagues. And he's coming
Speaker 3: back and showing those skills so far this year. Obviously
Speaker 3: over three years, career high expect A batting averages up
Speaker 3: to two ninety one. He has a forty one percent
Speaker 3: hard hit rate, which is four percent higher than last year.
Speaker 3: His k percentage is down to thirteen percent, and he
Speaker 3: is barreling the ball again. I tell you all those
Speaker 3: things because those are great metrics to just hone in
Speaker 3: of the baseline of who this player is. The other
Speaker 3: really incredible thing he is hitting over three hundred against
Speaker 3: every single pitch type. So that's a big thing you
Speaker 3: want to focus on. How pitchers are going to end
Speaker 3: up adjusting to a guy and he's kind of smashing
Speaker 3: everything right now. He just makes really really solid contact.
Speaker 3: He's getting the ball up in the air more as well.
Speaker 3: Ten degree lunch angle last year, fifteen degree this year.
Speaker 3: We talked about him month or so ago and said, hey,
Speaker 3: this is a guy that he's going to get more opportunity.
Speaker 3: He is hitting well, we should pick him up, and
Speaker 3: he's found his I cannot get over though, and I
Speaker 3: don't know how I'm gonna do this in the offseason.
Speaker 3: I'll figure something out. But like you know, how we have,
Speaker 3: like you know, the rookies that get hot and then
Speaker 3: you have like the sophomore slumps. There's this new version
Speaker 3: of like it's of how it's laking three years. It's
Speaker 3: I guess it's late bloomers, but it's this three year
Speaker 3: thing that's starting to happen where guys into their third
Speaker 3: season who have not clicked start to click. And I'm
Speaker 3: not really sure how we measure that outside of getting
Speaker 3: back to previous prospect pedigree to guys that surprised us,
Speaker 3: that struggled. Not all of them are doing it, but
Speaker 3: we have seen a handful of players after a couple
Speaker 3: of years. I mean, the league is also adjusting like
Speaker 3: differently every single year. But either way, Miranda, it's a
Speaker 3: great buy. Everyone's getting hurt. He sticks in, hits the
Speaker 3: absolute crap out of the ball, awesome points league guy
Speaker 3: and a really good categories player Jose Miranda, probably top
Speaker 3: one hundred player rest this season at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Lee had a home run in that Saturday Game
Speaker 1: two against Hunter Brown.
Speaker 2: Yeah Hunter Brown, by the way, that kind of came
Speaker 2: back to roost after he'd been so good.
Speaker 1: It was finally the first bat start has had a
Speaker 1: long time to reach.
Speaker 3: Can It'll be great.
Speaker 1: It can, I'll be great, you know.
Speaker 2: And his home road splits are not the best too,
Speaker 2: so maybe we'll give him a pass on that. To
Speaker 2: Rescooball incredible thirteen strikeouts, seven innings for him, Jose Burrios
Speaker 2: ten strikeouts, six innings against Seattle, Seattle, obviously without Julio Reguez.
Speaker 2: More on that later in the show. Grayson Rodriguez eight
Speaker 2: strikeouts of his own, three innings, excuse me, three runs
Speaker 2: and six innings for the Orioles against the lowly A's,
Speaker 2: And it looks like the Cubs might be selling off.
Speaker 2: Apparently it's not just Nico Horner, but Cody Bellinger, as
Speaker 2: I mentioned, that would be a big piece. Jameson Tyon
Speaker 2: could be out there too. Bellinger would be a big
Speaker 2: piece for somebody to add. If on the Mariners, I'm
Speaker 2: knocking on that door right now. You're the Mariners. You
Speaker 2: got to be first to market here, because you can't
Speaker 2: wait and then compete with the Orioles prospects or the
Speaker 2: Yankees prospects potentially they can put together, or even the
Speaker 2: maybe even the Dodgers too, So you don't want to
Speaker 2: compete with the big boys. Now is the time to strike.
Speaker 2: If you are indeed thinking that the Cubs are putting
Speaker 2: those names.
Speaker 3: Out there, I'm so likely I'm probad, probably annoying about this.
Speaker 3: So over the weekend the fourth, definitely over the holiday weekend,
Speaker 3: I did a couple hits over on CBS, and I
Speaker 3: did this on both of those shows, and I've been
Speaker 3: kind of doing this in general. I'm hyper focused on
Speaker 3: the team that's going to rip the band aid off
Speaker 3: the trade market because there is because you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: Yankees are gonna make a big trade. There's only so
Speaker 3: much on the market, and there's only so many teams
Speaker 3: that are willing to consider selling, and there are so
Speaker 3: many teams that have the assets to buy. And you know,
Speaker 3: I brought up the Yankees too, on what side you
Speaker 3: thought they were going to buy because like, not only
Speaker 3: they've been like top ten in ERA on the year,
Speaker 3: top ten and hitting, like both sides have been great.
Speaker 3: They have the highest i think our third highest run
Speaker 3: differential scoring on the season. Blah blah blah. But like
Speaker 3: they could use a rotation piece, and they could use
Speaker 3: a hitter. They've outside of Judge and Sota, they've got
Speaker 3: so many guys that are lacking and they are set debt,
Speaker 3: second to last in MLB and stolen bases. That's why
Speaker 3: I'm bringing this all back guy like Nico Horner to me,
Speaker 3: would actually make a ton of sense for a team
Speaker 3: like the Yankees. Obviously it's gonna make sense for a
Speaker 3: team like the Mariners as well. But that's the problem
Speaker 3: is all of these teams could use these pieces. I
Speaker 3: think the Cubs would do very well to put some
Speaker 3: of these pieces out of the market. Tie On would
Speaker 3: be a Savale like pitcher that you could put out there.
Speaker 3: But Bellinger and Horner they could corner the market. While
Speaker 3: these other teams, like the White Sox, there's rumors the
Speaker 3: White Sox might hold Robert till the off season, or
Speaker 3: the Vlad and Bishett stuff. The Cubs could be the
Speaker 3: ones that could set the price, and I agree teams
Speaker 3: should be calling Bellinger's not having as good of a year,
Speaker 3: but matter he would be great in either one of
Speaker 3: those lineups. And Horner specifically, I think would be really great.
Speaker 3: Mariners and Yankees stand out to me for his.
Speaker 1: Yankees would too.
Speaker 2: That'd be funny they they trade glabor tourists for him
Speaker 2: and they could swap back after all those years.
Speaker 3: That would be funny. Obviously, I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 3: Back to the Cubs.
Speaker 2: All right, the All Star rosters are complete, basically American League.
Speaker 2: You've got the starters, Rutchman, Guerrero out to Ve, Josier, Mirrors, Gunner, Henderson,
Speaker 2: Judge Kwan thinks. See Kwan in there made me really excited.
Speaker 2: Juan Soto and Alvarez. By the way, our special is
Speaker 2: going to be airing next week to our fantasy All
Speaker 2: Stars for twenty twenty four. A lot of the same
Speaker 2: names here, maybe a few different. And then on the
Speaker 2: Nation League side, William Contreras, Bryce Harper, hopefully you'll be
Speaker 2: able to play. We'll see fingers crossed, can tell Marte,
Speaker 2: Alec Bohm, Trey Turner, Trey Turner, I mean ridiculously even
Speaker 2: play the first half is so dumb Jackson, Profar Tattis
Speaker 2: Yelich and Ol Tommy. When you roll down to some
Speaker 2: of the pitchers here, Tyler Anderson his second All Star game,
Speaker 2: Tyler Anderson's expected ERA is like seven thousand, his FIP
Speaker 2: is eight thousand.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: But what else could they have done?
Speaker 2: Nothing like I spoken of Tyler Anderson. But if there
Speaker 2: isn't a bigger cell high at the break, candidate, I
Speaker 2: don't know who who is here?
Speaker 3: You know what, here's a tease the trade video. We're
Speaker 3: gonna do the trade stuff we're gonna do. Here is
Speaker 3: an All Star edition. I started this with Tyler Anderson.
Speaker 3: If this was built around.
Speaker 2: Tyler Barns, Class Crochet, Gilbert your boy All Star, Clay Holmes, Tanner, Hawick,
Speaker 2: Seth Luga who totally deserves it, leading the league by
Speaker 2: the way tide and wins lean league and lead league
Speaker 2: and era unbelievable, Mason Miller, Cole Reagan's, Treik schoobl and
Speaker 2: Kirby Yates. And I see a couple Kansas City Royals
Speaker 2: pitchers on it. How about that on the National League side?
Speaker 2: Glass now Helsy Hoffman, Imanaga, Lopez Sale, Scott Skeens, which
Speaker 2: is going to be super fun. Hopefully he gets to
Speaker 2: pitch in that game. Strum Suarez, Ranger and Robert and
Speaker 2: then Logan Webb and Zach Wheeler so Welsh. I think
Speaker 2: for me, the fun thing here is Skeens. Can you
Speaker 2: get Skeens an inning in the All Star Game? I
Speaker 2: hope we do. I don't know how the rotations line
Speaker 2: up or anything. I haven't looked ahead yet, but that's
Speaker 2: good for baseball. I want Paul Skeens on that mound
Speaker 2: at some point. That's gonna be electricity in that building.
Speaker 2: Any thoughts here maybe on Trey Turner being ridiculous as
Speaker 2: the starting shorts.
Speaker 3: I can give you two. I can give you two
Speaker 3: snubs Francisco Lindo or someone said in the chat huge
Speaker 3: snub and I think the biggest one and call me
Speaker 3: a home or not. But Christian Walker Pete Alonzo made
Speaker 3: it in over Christian Walker. Christian Walker is literally beating
Speaker 3: him in every single category out there that the Diamondbacks
Speaker 3: Twitter world is losing their mind. Pee Alnzo not deserved
Speaker 3: to take that over Walker. With Harper coming out, that's
Speaker 3: probably either going to open up a spot for Christian
Speaker 3: Walker or Lindor. But I thought those two were like
Speaker 3: the really the biggest snubs of not making it. And
Speaker 3: I will just reiterate one last time. I will talk
Speaker 3: a lot about how much I hate fan voting in
Speaker 3: All Star Games. I think it's embarrassingly stupid. I think
Speaker 3: more than ever, or just because it's right now, the
Speaker 3: getting one representative of each team is so stupid, Like
Speaker 3: Tyler Anderson is an All Star?
Speaker 1: Is Tyler Anderson do?
Speaker 2: However, I will say this Welsh, I think that is
Speaker 2: another one of these pieces from a bygone era where
Speaker 2: you didn't get to see the American League. If you're
Speaker 2: a Nation League fan and you didn't have the Internet,
Speaker 2: you didn't have all these things. It was cool to
Speaker 2: see guys from other teams like it was a big deal.
Speaker 2: As a kid growing up in the early mid eighties,
Speaker 2: it was really cool to see those guys. I gotta
Speaker 2: watch the Yankee Games too. I was lucky I lived
Speaker 2: in New York, so you would see those American League
Speaker 2: guys more. But you ever saw him in your ballpark.
Speaker 2: You didn't really watch a whole lot of them. So
Speaker 2: if you're a Mets fan and vice versa of your
Speaker 2: Yankees pants. It was cool to see, you know, a
Speaker 2: guy from the Angels, a guy from this team.
Speaker 1: You know, that was neat.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. You're an All Star or you're not.
Speaker 2: This one representative is kind of dumb at the end
Speaker 2: of the day. But it's it's all right. I can
Speaker 2: live with that. That's one of the old guard things
Speaker 2: I can still live with at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna live with all of it because
Speaker 3: I don't care about the All Star Game, like everyone
Speaker 3: gets and they're like.
Speaker 2: I love how angry You're like, you don't care about
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, you don't care about All Star Game.
Speaker 1: You're funny.
Speaker 2: You're a funny baseball fight in the sense it's like
Speaker 2: big ticket items that Welsh's like, I.
Speaker 3: Hate the things that get people work there that they
Speaker 3: want to fight about. I don't care. I don't care
Speaker 3: about Like there's gar.
Speaker 1: When it comes to this stuff.
Speaker 2: But no, maybe a little less confrontational, more confrontational when
Speaker 2: it comes to trades. Let's talk trades with Welsh for
Speaker 2: Week sixteen. Welsh, who are the guys you want to
Speaker 2: get rid of?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Now, who are the guys you want to get on
Speaker 2: your roster as soon as you can?
Speaker 3: All right, this is an All Star edition of the
Speaker 3: Trade Talk. Here, I've got three names. These are all
Speaker 3: players that made the All Star Game. But I am
Speaker 3: going to present I'm gonna do a little bit of
Speaker 3: a phishing and farming for your interactions here with this
Speaker 3: first one. This is similar to what we talked about
Speaker 3: with Garrett Crochet. So let me present this for a
Speaker 3: tiny talk, and then I will just give you the
Speaker 3: three names that I think you can trade four or
Speaker 3: away at the All Star Game. Here is my presentation
Speaker 3: to you for the All Star Game. Should we and
Speaker 3: can we trade Paul Schemes, trade four or trade away?
Speaker 3: I know it's been a big question all season long.
Speaker 3: Now I have a couple scenarios I'm gonna throw at you.
Speaker 3: But let me give you some good and some bad
Speaker 3: of things. You guys already know. The good on Paul Skiing,
Speaker 3: who by the way, absolutely deserves the All Star bid.
Speaker 3: The good and ten starts this year two really just
Speaker 3: like a barely over to era, which has been phenomenal.
Speaker 3: He's gone six innings in more in eight of his
Speaker 3: ten starts, He's gone six or more innings apologies, in
Speaker 3: eight of his ten starts, which is crazy, crazy for
Speaker 3: any starter at this point, but a rookie. Nonetheless, he
Speaker 3: struck out seven or more in all but one start. Fifth,
Speaker 3: best K percentage in baseball since June first, and a
Speaker 3: million other nice things that you know. Here's the bat
Speaker 3: on Paul Skins. The Pirates are now ten games back
Speaker 3: in the Division, four and a half games back in
Speaker 3: the wild Card, which isn't horrible, but they're fourth right now.
Speaker 3: If they fall out, the second big worry is going
Speaker 3: to be the innings cap starting to stare at us
Speaker 3: in the face. This guy had one, I mean really,
Speaker 3: one of the biggest storylines when he got drafted was
Speaker 3: his usage in college. We now see a big usage
Speaker 3: happening here. If they're out of it, he's in the
Speaker 3: All Star Game values up. I think it's something to consider. Also,
Speaker 3: a little stat I thought was interesting. Since June first,
Speaker 3: he has the highest left on base percentage in all
Speaker 3: of baseball ninety seven percent. A lot of that is
Speaker 3: to like his skills and his talent, but that's a
Speaker 3: regressional standpoint. There are two players in that period of
Speaker 3: time who had over ninety and number two is ninety
Speaker 3: one percent, So you know he's been incredible. But the
Speaker 3: idea here is, like you've mentioned with Heel, if they're
Speaker 3: out of it, are we going to lose some of
Speaker 3: how aggressive they've been. He's going deep into games. His
Speaker 3: pitch count is that also.
Speaker 1: Is not going to be around for weeks again or days.
Speaker 1: It's going to be weeks.
Speaker 2: I guess they're saying we're waiting to get him back.
Speaker 2: Another thing I'll throw on with Skeins too. First time
Speaker 2: through the batting order forty one percent k rate, second
Speaker 2: time thirty percent k rate, third time twenty six point
Speaker 2: nine percent k rate. So stamina already within games is
Speaker 2: a bit of an.
Speaker 1: Issue for Skiings.
Speaker 2: So if he's sorry the thing, the walk rate goes
Speaker 2: up second time through the order from four percent to
Speaker 2: seven point.
Speaker 1: As most do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one thing that he has going for him
Speaker 3: is the adjustments of fastball to splinker, and I think
Speaker 3: that keeps people live. But here, so here's the question,
Speaker 3: and I ask you guys in the comments below, whether
Speaker 3: you're watching live or you're watching this after the fact,
Speaker 3: let us know are you a buyer in the sense
Speaker 3: that he's going to be a top ten sp rest
Speaker 3: of season. He is performing at that level, and boy,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have some great off season questions. Or is
Speaker 3: this the time he made the All Star Game? Pirates
Speaker 3: are still kind of in the hunt a little bit,
Speaker 3: and they have said they're not looking to like shut
Speaker 3: shut him down. Those are a lot of things that
Speaker 3: work into building this value, so real quick, and then
Speaker 3: I'll present a couple of scenarios, Joe, are you a
Speaker 3: buyer he will be top ten rest of season? Or
Speaker 3: are you selling where he is performing as a top
Speaker 3: five spece. So let's say you're trading him away and
Speaker 3: you're getting the asset of a top five to eight
Speaker 3: type of pitcher. You're trading away or you're selling him
Speaker 3: in the top or you're buying him in the top ten.
Speaker 3: So you can buy or sell schemes. And I'm not.
Speaker 1: Making fine where the lume is a ten. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just easy for me.
Speaker 2: I have concerned about Again, this is somebody who's played
Speaker 2: in the More Points League.
Speaker 1: There's playoffs world.
Speaker 2: That era that's upcoming soon in August into September scares
Speaker 2: me a little bit with Skeens. Now if it's season long.
Speaker 2: Rod that's a different story. I'll probably take my lumps
Speaker 2: with schemes. That's that's where I'll be in.
Speaker 3: And maybe I think it's you know, in those worlds
Speaker 3: kind of kind of a good way to say it,
Speaker 3: Like in Rodo, I think schemes out.
Speaker 2: Strike out in quality peripherals where I don't think it matters,
Speaker 2: Like I think you even take some of the dip
Speaker 2: if you need it, or if it get shout down,
Speaker 2: it gets shot down, You'll live with that because he.
Speaker 1: Gave you so much already, so you think you take
Speaker 1: it for the next six weeks.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, if you're in anything that's got head to head
Speaker 2: in it where there's playoffs, to me, that's the one
Speaker 2: where I'm a little scared. Like if you asked me,
Speaker 2: would rather have like Sureser or Paul Skeins August First,
Speaker 2: you're gonna hate this answer.
Speaker 1: For most people, it's probably sures are.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, see that's not even okay. So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: present a couple to you and then we'll go that's
Speaker 3: actually shocking to me, Yeah, because like I I mean.
Speaker 2: The guy who's still got a high strikeout rate. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know he's older, but he's gonna be pitching for
Speaker 2: the Rangers or a team that decides they are contending.
Speaker 1: If the Rangers decide that they're not.
Speaker 3: It's more than you said August, like if you would
Speaker 3: have said September. I don't know, maybe, but August first, Like,
Speaker 3: I still like Scheme's talent is not my big question here,
Speaker 3: and I think it's risky. And that's why I'm bringing
Speaker 3: this up. And I'm dying to get your guys' take,
Speaker 3: So put good takes on the comments. We can talk
Speaker 3: about it this week. But I'm not making the case
Speaker 3: from a talent perspective. You move off. I'm making a
Speaker 3: case that I think there are some of those.
Speaker 1: Worries and there's a lot of griz.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna still go schemes on the outside, but I
Speaker 3: get close. Okay, So here, So here are the two
Speaker 3: trades I want to give to you real quick. You
Speaker 3: can do this with Skeins. Let's say, who would you
Speaker 3: rather have? Rest of season? You got to get out,
Speaker 3: like what your need is? Would you rather have Paul
Speaker 3: Skins or would you rather have Ellie.
Speaker 1: I'll still take Ellie.
Speaker 2: I think that there's always massive swings with Ellie where
Speaker 2: if he gets hot, he carries your whole team, everyday
Speaker 2: player of that ilk first round time.
Speaker 3: I completely agree. And if he is at the level
Speaker 3: of top five right now, that might be something you
Speaker 3: can often would you rather have ski if you could
Speaker 3: trade schemes to get Kirby and Alec Bohm? What would
Speaker 3: you do?
Speaker 1: What side Kirby and Boem?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's play the head to head take Kirby
Speaker 3: and Boom too.
Speaker 1: Effact? I like that. I think that's a really good value,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: Okay, So those are the things I'm thinking of. So
Speaker 3: when I bring this up, not hating think about capitalization.
Speaker 3: Where he is an All Star, he's at the tippy
Speaker 3: top of his game. Everything looks incredible, and the pirates
Speaker 3: are still kind of in it. This might be absolute
Speaker 3: maximizing in the trade world. But let's see what you
Speaker 3: guys have to say in the comments and we'll bring
Speaker 3: it up later this week. All right, Joe, I got
Speaker 3: three other All Stars we can look at trading four
Speaker 3: or away, trading away Shota Imanagata. Since since Shota, since
Speaker 3: June first, he's got a five RA he's actually been
Speaker 3: better than that. But it's still a three point nine
Speaker 3: to two X fit in that period of time, so
Speaker 3: that high three to four ERA range that I've been
Speaker 3: talking about. Also his batting average against two seventy nine
Speaker 3: in that period of time, which is the twelfth worst
Speaker 3: among qualified starting pitchers, and I talked about that. I
Speaker 3: will say this will this cannot sustain as Paul schemes
Speaker 3: from June first on ninety seven percent left on base
Speaker 3: percentage show, it's a fifty eight point five percent left
Speaker 3: on base percentage, which is sixth worst among all starting pitchers.
Speaker 3: And he's not walking guys too, So that's a lot
Speaker 3: of hits that I mean, that's a bad number that
Speaker 3: will positively regress, but I don't know how much. I
Speaker 3: think it might be a decent time to look at
Speaker 3: moving off of Imonaga as the second half goes on.
Speaker 3: Two players i'm buying that are all stars. I am
Speaker 3: buying Pittsburgh Pirates Brian Reynolds on the year two eighty
Speaker 3: four average five stolen bases, which is a very Reynolds
Speaker 3: like season. The sixteen homers he's got those are an outlier.
Speaker 3: But since June first, as my marko, I'm using today,
Speaker 3: he's hitting three forty six with nine homers and a
Speaker 3: fifty one point one percent hard hit percentage. He has
Speaker 3: been phenomenal. I still think he kind of like falls
Speaker 3: under that line of excitement that people have. Brian Reynolds
Speaker 3: is an All Star that I'm buying, and here's a
Speaker 3: struggling All Star who made it. One of those that
Speaker 3: you could question, how did they make it? Marcus Simeon
Speaker 3: with the Texas Rangers. I mean, he made the All
Speaker 3: Star Game despite hitting two thirty two. The twelve homers helped,
Speaker 3: but on the year he has just a two forty
Speaker 3: one babbit. Again, positive aggression is coming in, which is
Speaker 3: about forty points lower than his career, fifty points than
Speaker 3: last year, and since June first, he has the league's
Speaker 3: fourth worst babbit at two oh four. So what I'm
Speaker 3: giving to you here is there's massive positive aggression that
Speaker 3: plays in and he has been traditionally a second half player.
Speaker 3: He has hit twenty to thirty points higher in the
Speaker 3: second half throughout. Rangers have talked about selling. I don't
Speaker 3: think they will. A lot of the underlying stuff is
Speaker 3: still there. I think you can buy Marcus Simeon on
Speaker 3: the cheap right now and that would be a guy
Speaker 3: that I am looking to pick up two all stars
Speaker 3: to trade for one to trade away. And what the
Speaker 3: hell you guys doing with skeins, that's what looking at.
Speaker 2: And those are the guys moving and shaking for talking
Speaker 2: trades with the Welsh for a week sixteen. All right,
Speaker 2: let's have a little fun. We'll run through some fun things,
Speaker 2: some nuggets. Ueno Suarez three for four. Oh, maybe he's
Speaker 2: gonna be another week or so, is a Diamondback by
Speaker 2: Maybe the Diamondbacks can trade him away. Maybe somebody's desperate
Speaker 2: for a bat. They could send him back to Seattle too.
Speaker 2: Corbyn Carroll home run his first since May seventh. Edwin
Speaker 2: Diaz weird day for him. So he pitched an inning
Speaker 2: and a third against the Pirates. He allowed a hit,
Speaker 2: a walk, struck a guy out, blew a save, but
Speaker 2: end up getting a win. So weird day for him.
Speaker 2: Heston kirsted rookie lookie, three run homer for him. Brooks
Speaker 2: Lee two for four with a run scored after a
Speaker 2: big day of the day before. He's hitting four to
Speaker 2: seventy four so far as a Major leaguer.
Speaker 1: Three up and three down. Christian Yelich three for four
Speaker 1: with a homer and a double. Bobby Witt got me
Speaker 1: a dinger. D Yeah, I guess head, let's go.
Speaker 2: Bobby Witt and Berdy Singer limited the Rockies to one
Speaker 2: run over seven three down. Dallas Kaikeel no stranger to
Speaker 2: this list. He is not the answer Brewers, he is
Speaker 2: not the answer for I walks at four and a
Speaker 2: third the brew crewe again pick up dial Hall. I
Speaker 2: told you last week. I'm telling you again, you better
Speaker 2: do it. Ezekiel Tovar hitless for the month of July,
Speaker 2: another zero for four with three ks.
Speaker 1: He was on my cell list just two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: So that's looking like a good one too, because they said, look,
Speaker 2: there's nobody around this guy hitting either. And Tovar's numbers
Speaker 2: are eventually going to come back down to earth a
Speaker 2: little bit, and they have Cody Bellinger maybe asking for
Speaker 2: an out. He's zero for four yesterday to for a
Speaker 2: second straight game, so not good against the Angels. Injury notes,
Speaker 2: I mentioned Jared Jones before when we're having that discussion
Speaker 2: about Paul Skeins, He's gonna be weeks away still. According
Speaker 2: to the Pittsburgh Pirates, Carlos Correa who had been red hot.
Speaker 2: He told reporters on Sunday he expects to return for
Speaker 2: the Twins on Monday, so that's a big get for them.
Speaker 2: Nicolodolo throwing a bullpen session this weekend, that's positive. Labor
Speaker 2: Torres was not in the lineup yesterday dealing with that
Speaker 2: groin injury, so he needed a blow for his groin
Speaker 2: injury that he's dealing with. I guess freezing and timing
Speaker 2: is everything, Welsh. Anthony Rendono could be back today. Are
Speaker 2: you excited about that return? Welsh h I'm as excited
Speaker 2: as he is. Jack Flaherty, who could be a piece.
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of teams might go after
Speaker 2: I could see the Yankees going.
Speaker 3: After Flarerty absolutely.
Speaker 1: Thursday.
Speaker 2: He is back to start apparently against the Guardian, so
Speaker 2: close eye on that. That's gonna be a huge start
Speaker 2: here for the Tigers and for Flaherty. If Flowerty looks good,
Speaker 2: goes six innings, gives up two runs or something like that,
Speaker 2: you better get on the horn and put him out
Speaker 2: there on the block and see what you can get.
Speaker 2: Now at the time to strike, you don't want a
Speaker 2: setback with that back issue. Devin Williams remember him. He's
Speaker 2: gonna throw a live bullpen session on Tuesday. We'll let
Speaker 2: you know how that goes. Clayton Kershaw with a shoulder
Speaker 2: two simulated innings on Sunday. So far, so good, no
Speaker 2: ill effects. The MRI on Julio Rodriguez Is quad showed
Speaker 2: no structural damage and Blake Snell back on Tuesday against
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays. He's been doing with a groin two
Speaker 2: but that quad issue. The whole Julio season has been
Speaker 2: just misery.
Speaker 1: Welsh.
Speaker 2: This is a guy who had thirty homers and one
Speaker 2: hundred RBI last year. That Seattle's got to do something soon.
Speaker 2: But I look at Julio as a fascinating by low
Speaker 2: in keeper and Dynasty leagues too, because it's been so wretched,
Speaker 2: so bad. This might be your window, and I'm buying
Speaker 2: he's still so young, with so much upside.
Speaker 1: Welsh.
Speaker 2: I think this is your this twenty twenty four window,
Speaker 2: and Julio might be shutting soon.
Speaker 1: At some point. I want to buy him in those
Speaker 1: keeper leagues. What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this might be one of the better
Speaker 3: times to buy big talent in Dynasty because you know,
Speaker 3: Kunya's hurt you. You're mentioning Julio has been down ticking
Speaker 3: Corbyn Carroll has kind of fallen apart. I do think
Speaker 3: a bigger question is going to be about, like what
Speaker 3: does this mean to the long term. Here's what I
Speaker 3: will say, and what I mean by that is like
Speaker 3: I think Corbyn Carl's changed. I don't know if this
Speaker 3: is going to fix. I don't know if it's a
Speaker 3: shoulder which everybody keeps going about. We saw the one
Speaker 3: swing he had this weekend which looked vintage Carol, that
Speaker 3: was taking a high pitch up and out and showing
Speaker 3: that power won awaight off. That bat looked beautiful, but
Speaker 3: he still can't be consistent. I don't think we are
Speaker 3: gonna get huge, big power output Corbyn Carroll again. I
Speaker 3: think he's gonna have to maybe change a little bit
Speaker 3: as a player, where I don't think Julio has changed.
Speaker 3: So I'm bringing this back to say, like I'm actually
Speaker 3: a buyer still on Carol because it's so ridiculously low.
Speaker 3: I need Julio to be lower, but I don't think
Speaker 3: there's a ton in the profile that is like freaking
Speaker 3: me out that I like he's hitting breaking pitches worse
Speaker 3: this year, but a lot of the underlying stuff is
Speaker 3: still there, so I think the talent can bounce back.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of lineup support. Been a weird year,
Speaker 3: but yes, I completely agree. I'm buying on.
Speaker 2: Don't get a talent this young, this good that's hit
Speaker 2: rock bottom like this, Carol.
Speaker 3: I just don't know if he's out of the top
Speaker 3: ten for anybody though, that's the problem.
Speaker 2: I you know what, I don't know, man, I it
Speaker 2: was pretty bad this year. You're probably right, most people
Speaker 2: will have discipline. But if somebody doesn't, or if somebody's
Speaker 2: got him and is about to make a run for
Speaker 2: a championship too, maybe you can offer them, you know,
Speaker 2: an overpay to get him on your roster for the
Speaker 2: future and say, hey, go in a championship.
Speaker 1: Give me Julio. I think this is time to do it.
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Speaker 2: a weird day on the slate, so I'm gonna hyper
Speaker 2: focus Chrissale on the mound for the Atlanta Braves minus
Speaker 2: one and a half on the run line.
Speaker 1: Are those Braves at minus.
Speaker 2: One ten, Joey like, even though it's on the road
Speaker 2: against Arizona. Chrsale has been absolutely fantastic. The sale props
Speaker 2: were a little juice today, So I'm staying away from
Speaker 2: the individual stuff with him. But in that same game,
Speaker 2: I am gonna look to matt Olsen over on the
Speaker 2: RBI point five at plus one point thirty. That's a
Speaker 2: big number there for matt Olsen. Give that to me,
Speaker 2: let him drive in a run today, and then I'm
Speaker 2: gonna look at Ellie de la Cruz. I like, two
Speaker 2: bets on Ellie today. You got even money on the
Speaker 2: over one and a half total bases against the Rockies
Speaker 2: today and over point five steals over the half steal
Speaker 2: there at plus one point fifty five. He's got more
Speaker 2: than thirteen steals than anybody else in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: So give me.
Speaker 2: Ellie to get those total bases, get the stolen bases,
Speaker 2: doubling down on those two at good money too. Those
Speaker 2: are my best bets of the day. But Welsh, what
Speaker 2: are yours?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: I agree with you, it's a weird day and there's
Speaker 3: not a lot. We actually have some similar things. It's
Speaker 3: been a great week though. It has been a phenomenal
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Speaker 3: Welsh if you want to check some of them out.
Speaker 3: I've found a good stride on some stuff that I like.
Speaker 3: Right now is the year changes, but today if so,
Speaker 3: back to what you said, we're kind of hyper focused
Speaker 3: in some similar games. I'm also going to back the
Speaker 3: Braves against my Diamondbacks. Gilbert Diaz is going to be
Speaker 3: making his major league debut for the Diamondbacks. I will
Speaker 3: say he is a fascinating arm to pay attention to.
Speaker 3: He was one of the leaders in double A strikeouts.
Speaker 3: He's got a big, old nasty curveball. Might be deceptive
Speaker 3: early on, but I'm a little bit worried about like
Speaker 3: young control issues. He's also like really like rocketed up
Speaker 3: the system. He's going against Sale. I'm gonna back the
Speaker 3: Braves and Chris Sail through the first five innings. To
Speaker 3: be up by a run money line is not in
Speaker 3: play here. But if they are up by one run
Speaker 3: through the first five, it's minus one twenty five. That
Speaker 3: is a play.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I love my first fives as well. I'm gonna play
Speaker 3: a first five money line bet. We are going to
Speaker 3: Andrew Abbott and the Cincinnati Reds first five money line,
Speaker 3: pairing it with Gavin Williams in Cleveland through the first
Speaker 3: five money line. They're both doable solo, it's just a
Speaker 3: little too juiced. But if I pair them together, I
Speaker 3: get almost two to one plus one ninety four. So
Speaker 3: I'm playing both of those first fives first fives a
Speaker 3: little bit easier than the money line, of course. And
Speaker 3: I laughed when I saw this on the sheet because
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe, you know how, Like I don't go
Speaker 3: nuts into like the individual hitter player props. I went
Speaker 3: straight to Ellie Daily Cruz today and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play some Ellie. I like the matchup. I
Speaker 3: like what we can get out of Elle. I actually
Speaker 3: looked straight at the stolen base numbers. It's really juice
Speaker 3: though for a stolen base. I don't hate it, but
Speaker 3: I'm going with you on the total bases. It's plus money.
Speaker 3: It's even plus one hundred for one point five over
Speaker 3: total bases, and that is what I am playing with Ellie,
Speaker 3: not a lot else. I'm probably gonna add to the
Speaker 3: weird slate here, and I want to be careful starting
Speaker 3: out the week because I've been on a good run.
Speaker 3: But you guys can always check it all out betting
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Speaker 1: On what we got.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Welsh, why Langford thing we talked
Speaker 2: about a couple of weeks ago, or it was plus
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred, it's two to one now it's two
Speaker 2: to one.
Speaker 3: Last I look, he was tied with It was him
Speaker 3: and him and Heel were like the exact same odds.
Speaker 3: I think I haven't looked today. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 3: if Langford maybe took that over.
Speaker 2: Well, if you bought in at twenty five hundred and
Speaker 2: you bought in again at six hundred, like we told you,
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Speaker 1: And those are the best bets.
Speaker 2: Of the day for Monday. All right, Well, sh let's
Speaker 2: take a look at the home run board over the weekends.
Speaker 2: See if I'm still hanging on.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: I'm right there there, twenty four still alive. Thank you,
Speaker 2: Bobby Wit. You had to wait till Sunday to hit
Speaker 2: a home run in Colorado. I told you it's a
Speaker 2: weird day, Welsh. So again, not gonna try to go
Speaker 2: too many places here, Ellie de la Cruz, I'm already invested,
Speaker 2: so let's just go with Ellie.
Speaker 1: Where are you going for your home run call today?
Speaker 3: I was gonna go Ellie too, but you took him,
Speaker 3: and I don't want to ride with you because it's
Speaker 3: not gonna I ride with you. Yeah, So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: jump back over and I'm gonna go h Jose Ramirez
Speaker 3: for the day. I'm tempted to go with a brave
Speaker 3: you know what, No, I'm switching it now. Jmerez is
Speaker 3: guarantee he's gonna hit one. Guaranteed he's gonna hit one.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go with Austin Riley. Austin Riley on the
Speaker 3: Homer today.
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