WEBVTT - Episode 14: Viktor Hovland 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.400 The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:03.920 much the equipment matters. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.000 I just love that I can hit any shot I 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:06.600 kind of want. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.480 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.640 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.160 Welcome back to the Ping Proving Grounds Podcast. I'm Shane Bacon. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.440 That is Marty Jertsen. We're here in the tour truck 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.160 with a guy coming off a real heater. Victor Hoblin 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:22.800 is with us coming off a win, and I would 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:24.560 say one of the best rounds of golf I've seen 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.480 in quite some time. Where does it rank in your lifetime? 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.320 Those last nine holes at the BMW, Yeah, that was. 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:31.280 That was pretty special. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.600 I think is as far as playing a tournament round 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.800 with the amount of pressure, what's on the line, that's 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.160 got to be the best best round I've ever played, 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.519 by far, the best nine holes I've ever played. It 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.680 felt like every shot that I hit was was like 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.760 I envisioned it. And when you start making putts on 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.200 top of that as well, that's that's when you get 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:55.080 some pretty special. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:56.040 So that was that was fun. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.560 Victor, how did things build up to like Sunday where 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.480 it was it. Were you feeling good early in the week, 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:03.400 did you were you working on any things in your 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.880 swing that kind of culminated. Did you feel awesome on 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.640 the range Sunday before you went out, like, tell us 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.440 kind of how that week progressed. 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.600 Yeah, I'd say I'm a pretty tough critic on myself, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.240 so I'd never, rarely, never really feel like, Man. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.120 I am absolutely playing lights out. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.479 I'm gonna go and shoot sixty four, especially over the weekend, 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.600 Like my bad shots were just so good. I missed 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.959 the center of face a lot actually over the course 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.919 of the last thirty six holes. But when my missus 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.640 are going very very straight, even when I'm you know, 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.520 I'm not hitting the center of the face and the 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.960 bad swings are going pretty straight, and I'm still giving 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:45.920 myself fairway hits and short looks for birdie even when 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.720 I'm not hitting in the center. That's that's when you 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.120 know kind of things are. You're swinging it well and 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:53.000 things are going right. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.560 So I don't have like one particular shot that stands out. 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.880 But the draw on eighteen, I mean that has to 0:01:59.920 --> 0:02:02.000 be a t shot that can't be the most comfortable 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.360 for somebody like you, obviously moving the ball left or right, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:05.520 it looked like you kind of win the bag and 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.240 got a little bit more for that T shot as well. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.120 And it was just directly over that tree, I mean, 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.800 middle of the fair way. It watching on TV watching 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.160 the whole process of that round, and it went from 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.799 Victor's in the hunt to Victor's taf for the lead 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.079 to oh my god, he's gonna win this thing out right, 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:21.600 I mean the way you played seventeen to eighteen. But 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.480 that T shot to me, it was just it looked 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.959 like a guy swinging with the utmost amount of confidence. Yeah. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:27.680 No, that that was pretty cool when you when you 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.440 mentioned it again, I was like, yeah, that was pretty cool. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.680 Got that in the middle. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.280 That one was not a miss, No, it was not. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.359 It helped that the wind was a little bit off 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.680 the left and down wind. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.720 So I could really just feel like, Okay, I can 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:43.960 send this ball up in the air. I don't because 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:45.680 a couple of the other days it was into the wind. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.480 And it's one of those T shots, especially for me, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.040 because I don't really draw it off the T I 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.800 can sometimes. Uh So it's either on one of those 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.040 you have to start right of the tree and just 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.639 draw it, or you just hit it straight over it. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.560 But if it's into the wind and you decide to 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.080 hit it straight over it, the wind's gonna hurt it more. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:05.960 So. 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:07.560 It's one of those you kind of have to commit 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.320 to one. If you try to do both, it's hard 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.960 to put a good swing on it. But it just 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.720 made it very easy. When it was down wind and 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.520 off the left. I can almost aim at left, hit 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.600 it high and feel like I'm almost hitting just as 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.440 hard as I can up against that wall of wind 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.040 left to right, and I just hit an absolutely ten 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:26.640 out of ten. 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.800 When you're playing with Rory, is it also that you 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:30.640 like a rub off on Rory lines a little bit? 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:31.560 And you go, you know what, I'll just take the 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.160 Rory line on this and I'll just hit it directly 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.760 over the tree with no movement. He was hopefully you 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:37.320 were rubbing off on. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.080 Well, the more I play with him, I just I 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.960 just realized there's no point even trying to look at 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.320 where he's trying to hit his drives, because I mean 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.080 just on the first hole, Like the first hole is 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.920 long par five, and it's one of those you don't 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.000 really feel comfortable because it's a pretty hard T shot. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.080 You're not just teeing it high and sending one and 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:58.840 down there. I'm just like, I'm just gonna hit my 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.920 low bullet out there in the fairway, hit a great 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.040 T shot, and then he hits his high draw over there, 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:06.880 and he's like forty five yards in front. 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.200 I'm like, oh boy, I gotta just I just got 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.080 a black that I don't watch. It's not even gonna watch. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.680 It, yeah, Victor. When when there's a hot round like that, 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.120 I mean, I think usually there's like one point where 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.520 you get maybe a lucky break or a lucky bounce 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.320 or some fortunate happens right to kind of keep the 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.040 momentum going. What what was that on the back nine 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:26.360 there yesterday? 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.520 Well, I'd say I got unlucky on number seven. 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.640 I made a bogie there after I just pulled my 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.479 T shot a little bit in the uh to the 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.800 left and land in the bunker and bounced up in 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.719 the lip of the rough, like just caught a really 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.719 bad lie. Yeah, Versus if it was in the bunker, 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.200 it would have been a lot easier. So I got 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:45.800 unlucky there. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.760 Unlucky on seven should have been sixty have been sixty. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:52.760 Exactly been fifty nine. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:54.560 That's the attitude that shoots twenty eight. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.520 But but it going back to your question, it was 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.080 I definitely had things going my way. For example, on 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.400 fourteen was just ye, I pulled my t shot left 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.320 in the rough and didn't have the greatest lie, and 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.720 I told Shay, hey, I you know, if this was 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.320 a better lie, it's a perfect nine iron, but it 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:13.240 was sitting down. 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.120 So if the nine iron comes out a. 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.320 Little bit dead, it's gonna be short of the green 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.880 and rolls all the way down. I'm like, the only 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.200 way I can get this closest if I hit this 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.280 eight iron and it comes off hot and rolling and 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.240 just lands on the upslope and rolls up, And that's 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.480 that's exactly what It didn't end up to one foot. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.960 Yeah, that's it's what you see in your head. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.400 But to actually pull that off, that's you know, that 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.720 doesn't happen very often. So that definitely, you know, it 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:42.799 was definitely my Sunday. 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.120 Yeah, that was amazing. Now, when you have your iron 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.960 game like on point like it was yesterday, do you 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.200 are you purposely And I think you talked about it 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.200 on your interviews last night, playing like way more aggressive 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.600 like seventeen, None of the other players in the field 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.000 hit it back there behind that pin. It looked like 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.960 it was kind of crowned. I mean, Rory hit his 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.200 put back there. Give you a little read, right, but 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.080 you were the only one to get it past that pin. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:06.520 Are you? 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.880 Are you playing way more aggressive when. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.679 You're on It's a good question. 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:14.840 I mean, obviously, when you hit a lot of good 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.240 iron shots, you feel that. Man, I've last five iron 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.440 shots I've hit, I've hit exactly where I've looked, So okay, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.240 why not hit the sixth one in there clothes? 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.920 You know. So it's just it's kind of gets into 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:28.760 that mindset. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.040 But at the same time, when especially when I'm playing well, 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.200 I almost never hit the full iron shot. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:40.600 It's almost like that Tommy Fleet would kind of abbreviated finish. 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.840 I just focus on a number and I feel exactly 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.880 just okay, I gotta just stop right here, hit or 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:53.080 a ninety shot as opposed to ninety five percent shot. Yeah, 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.080 and the flight comes down a little bit. And especially 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.120 for those back pins, is when I feel like I 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:03.280 can hit those low driving iron shots and they'll bounce 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.039 you know, they'll take a little hop and then check 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.080 instead of for example, someone like Rory that I've noticed 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.080 he likes to hit those higher iron shots and kind 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.840 of give it a full finish, which is great for 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:17.880 the short pence and that's how he can stop the 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.840 ball so quickly. But I think that's maybe a little 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.120 tougher for those backpins. Yeah, because then you got a 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.240 flight all the way there. It just makes the target 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:26.160 a little bit smaller. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.880 Yeah, Yeah, Victor. The last year, I mean, you haven't 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.600 missed a cut since before the Open. Last year, you 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.760 played in the final period at Saint Andrew's, played in 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.360 the final period at the PGA. The consistency has been 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.840 quite incredible and remarkable, and obviously the wins have come 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.160 as well. What is shifted? Has it been mental? Has 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.600 it been golf swing? Has it been short game? What 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.440 shifted in the way you've gone about your business to 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.160 where it feels like each and every week you're kind 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:51.960 of in the hunt around the top of the lead 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:53.640 and obviously not missing any weekends. 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.360 Yeah, I would say my golf swing has changed a 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:03.400 little bit, but I wouldn't say like my ball strianking 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.920 is better than it used to be I'd say it's 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.320 maybe a little bit more consistent, But I think for 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.160 the most part it's been I've had the shots, but 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.119 I've picked the wrong spots to go after certain pens. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.800 So a lot of it is strategy. I'd say, part 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:24.240 of it is just attitude in general. And I'd say 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.400 just the short game, So. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.720 Kind of combining all those three things together. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.840 If I'm a little bit off, I have more tools 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.280 to help me instead of it, you know, a couple of. 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.160 Time ballooning or getting Yeah. 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.719 I'd say, like a couple of times when I've hit 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:42.719 you know, been in a flunk or whatever, hit some 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.400 bad shots, and I've allowed the bad shots to bother 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.880 me more, and then I'm focusing more on those bad 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.680 shots and where they can go instead of kind of 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.440 relying on my skill set. And and Okay, I don't 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.840 have to hit this drive perfect. I just have to 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.280 not miss it over there. And I've actually got shock 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.440 because my short game can get out of this trouble. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.559 And then if I catch fire on the back nine, 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.560 we're right back into this, you know. So that's kind 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.760 of been the mindset. And yeah, it's just I feel 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.000 like it's prevented things from going off. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:15.079 The rails, if you will. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.200 When you say not being so hard on yourself mentally, 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.400 I mean, if people watch you and you've got a 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.079 lot of young fans, I think a lot of the 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:23.480 reason you have a lot of young fans is your 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.439 demeanor on the golf course. You come off as a 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.360 very chill dude. You're you don't really get up and down. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.360 You don't hear much out of you in terms of 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.079 frustration or even positivity. I mean, it seems like you're 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:34.640 kind of a five out of ten out on the 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.240 golf course. What's going on inside, Like what's going on 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.880 inside of Victor Hovelin when it's not going well and 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:40.840 when it is going. 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:45.720 Well, Yeah, I would say I'm as I said earlier, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:50.680 I'm I'm a very harsh critic of myself, and sometimes 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.800 I put more emphasis on how. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:58.839 I play versus what the score is. Okay, And that's just. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.120 How I've been wired, because I've never really thought I've 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.319 been good enough. You know, even in college when I 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.320 was playing good golf and I had never really had 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.800 any experience playing against the pros, I'm like, okay, well 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.679 I won this college tournament or I played really well 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:17.200 in this qualifier, but those guys on tour are just 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.400 so much better, So I need to hit this shot better. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.200 Even though I made birdie on this hole, it was 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:23.760 not struck in this in the center. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.000 It flew a little bit too low. I wanted it 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:27.080 to be a little higher. You know. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:33.320 Just crazy shit, frankly, because now it's part of that 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.680 is still in there. When I'm playing golf. It's like, 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.839 you know, I like perfect example number one last week 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.360 on the par five, I hit in the middle of 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.520 fairway and the pin is short ride in the last 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.640 day and I'm just going to try to hit a 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:55.280 low bullet three wood down the left side. And what's 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.040 been bothering me a little bit. I hit it slightly 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.800 off the toe with my three wood, so it's kind 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.040 of drawing now, even though my swing is producing a 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.760 fade shot, but I just tend to draw my three wood. 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.680 Although it ended up in a perfect spot for me 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.840 to chip it up there, I was just pissed off 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.960 that it drew there instead of it going dead straight 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:13.520 or cutting two yards, you know. 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.320 So like it's the process over the result, and you're 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.560 you're trying to get more about the result. Hey, I 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.199 shot sixty seven today. Yeah, even without my best step. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.160 Because it gets to a point where I think it's 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.920 I think I will say I think that attitude has 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:27.480 helped me get to where. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.880 I am right now, because I've seen a lot of 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.319 people that are really, really good. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.400 But if you if you just think that everything you 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.440 do is so perfect and so good, and you just 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.160 get screwed or you get bad balances all the time, 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.600 how are you going to get better from that? But 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.080 if but if you see, Okay, I got away with 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.200 us here, but if the scenario was a little different, 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:53.719 I don't think I would have gotten away with it. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.520 So I need to do better to make sure that 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.040 if I'm in that scenario that doesn't happen. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:01.640 But it gets to a point. 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.560 Where, Okay, if I'm putting myself in the right places 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.160 all the time, if I hit it a little off 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.000 the toe, a little bit off the heel, it's not 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:09.679 that big. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:10.600 Of a deal, or. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.719 It shouldn't be as big of a deal as it is. 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.480 Because if me thinking about, oh, it wasn't perfect, it's 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.319 taking away my. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.200 If that is making it harder for me to perform 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.400 and produce results. That's that's not good. So it's just 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.120 kind of teeter tottering on that balance there. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.760 Victor. I think the listener is gonna be surprised here 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.439 and you talk about missing your golf shots. I think 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.240 we watch you on TV and we think you're hitting 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.520 flushing every single one of them in the center of 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.600 the face. So I want to talk a little bit 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.000 about your driver. You led the field last week in 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.520 driving accuracy. You play a driver that's forty five and 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.439 three quarters inches, and I think the listener out there, 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.800 I mean I did a poll on Twitter and they 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.719 still think to her players play forty four and a 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.640 half inch drivers, you know, so our driver's super forgiving. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.200 Tell us about kind of you making that decision that 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:04.920 jump because you used to play on the forty four 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.000 and three quarter Yeah, to forty five and three quarter, 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.319 almost the legal limit, and you're leading the field in 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.679 driving accuracy, right, Yeah. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.240 I mean I remember it was a couple of years 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.640 ago and I was getting into a little bit more 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.240 speed training, yep, Because I'd say when I got out 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.440 of school, I probably had a one sixty eight, one 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.840 sixty nine ball speed, but I was very, very accurate, 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:33.320 and I thought there's definitely some equity there if I could, 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.640 if I could hit a little bit further, And my 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.040 driver length was something that I'd never really. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.200 Thought much about, hmm. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.760 But I was like, okay, well, you know, when I 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.319 already have a forty four and a half or whatever 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.680 the length was with the driver, it's it's hard to 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.400 get that much physically stronger or faster in the gym 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:53.440 or with the. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:59.559 Stack system for example. Nice, but you know that that's 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:00.560 gonna take time. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:05.080 But if I just get a driver that's longer, I 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.600 you know, which I did a couple of years ago, 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.720 and I was like, man, I gained four miles an 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.719 hour ball speed just by doing that. Yeah, And then 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:17.000 your brain realizes, man, I've got a longer club, and 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.880 you can kind of take off the governor that you have. 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:20.920 On yourself a little bit. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.080 Yep, when you've been swinging a shorter driver, so when 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.800 your body's used to going faster, it kind of you 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:30.160 open up that growth. And then suddenly, you know, instead 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.440 of just gaining four miles an hour ball speed, it 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.920 got to five six, seven eight, and now I'm kind 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.800 of cruising at one seventy seven one seventy eight ball speed, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.160 which is ten miles an hour more than I had 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:43.680 when I first came out for school. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.400 Yeah, that's incredible. I think you and Matt Fitzpatrick or 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.080 the two players have gained the most in ball speed 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.320 from twenty one till now. Right, So it's kind of 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.640 compounding some of the stuff you've been doing on the 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.800 speed side with going to that longer lank driver. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:14:58.320 Yeah. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.160 I think this is a really good lesson because we 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.680 fit a lot of folks at the proving grounds and 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.840 we give them a longer length driver. We have a 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.680 really cool tool to evaluate their strokes gain driving. Like 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.800 sometimes a player will come in, they'll hit it super 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.880 straight like you, and to get more strokes gained, you 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.680 want to help them, like hit it further and go 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.080 into longer length. Yeah, is a really good lesson. Not 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.840 for everybody, but I think especially with your mechanics, your 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.760 technique helpre you already drive it anyway. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.360 Yeah. The problem is if. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.400 You have a golf swing that you know, let's say, 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.560 the harder you hit it, the more it just spins, 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.120 so your numbers. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.040 Just get all out of whack. 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.440 Yeah, So when you start adding on length on top 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.600 of that now longer driver, that's it's going to make 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.120 it spin even more, it's going to be even more inefficient. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.320 So your swing has to be in a certain way 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.920 where it makes sense to add. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:47.760 That extra length. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.720 Yeah, because it's definitely a fitting process that has to 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:51.680 go into it as well. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.960 Yeah, we see that with like Joaquin plays a forty 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.000 six inch driver, right, does it really as similar to you? Well, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.240 you got a lot of handling at impact, did a 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.600 lot of side bends. So those kind of traits kind 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.560 of stack up as a commonality. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.440 We see who. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.360 Is your pro athlete comp who when you look out 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.600 at professional sport, do you feel like that guy is 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.200 kind of how I am on the golf course. Is 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:15.640 there somebody that comes to mind? 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:20.320 Ah, I don't watch sports enough to really have a 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:21.840 good comparison, to be honest. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.600 Okay, it's funny because I mean, this is a very 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.800 big compliment, but I was watching this Steph Curry doc okay, 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.200 and Steph is the way he goes about his business 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.720 is hardcore okay. And then he's out on the court 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.640 and he kind of has a very similar demeanor to you, 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.280 where there are smiles and there is like a pick 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.440 me up moment and he's intense, but it's not too intense, 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.360 and it feels like, again, I don't know if it's 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.400 something you've trained yourself to be, but going into it, 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.480 trying to look positive on the golf course probably helps 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:51.840 you stay positive on the golf course. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.840 Yeah, no, I definitely think it helps. That's that's a 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:58.600 cool compliment. I don't watch in the NBA at all. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:16:59.320 But what do you watch? 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:00.400 What sports do you want? It's nothing? 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:01.520 Nothing, not no golf? 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:02.200 Do you watch golf? 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:02.880 Harley? 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.320 So what do you watch at home? What do you 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:05.720 get into when you're when you're on the road or 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.320 you're at home, you're watching an iPad? What do you do? 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.680 I just listened to podcasts like this one Big Deal? 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:14.440 Yeah that one to the list. Uh No, I listened 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:15.280 to a lot of podcasts. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:19.040 I faced on my buddies and read. I've started to 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:19.760 read a little bit. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.639 It's embarrassing, but I've probably only read about five books 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.000 from cover to cover in my whole life. But I 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.159 do really want to start reading and and and just 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:31.000 start learning more. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.800